/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #276

>>220550108 (OP)
oof, ya dun goofed with that OP, but at least there as an attempt made.
add upcoming events to the OP next time please, even if we don't have any planned at the moment, just a spot for it would be good.

second for please just let /vrg/ die already

aw fuck i fucked up the links and shit in the op

>>220550279
I mean, we dont have any upcoming events or even a pastebin or anything.

is it possible to have an entire general deleted or sent to trash for too many off topic posts?

>>220550364
Why would we need a pastebin? Just put
>Upcoming Events:
in there next time, and when someone does plan/announce an event we just put it there, like for a random made-up example

>Upcoming Events:
- July 18th, Pajama Day (Show up in an avatar with pajamas on)

>>220550065 (Cross-thread)
Getting help for blender/unity stuff here tends to be shouting into the void for me, and even if someone helps me in one message, it'll be hours before I get another. By then, I'd have solved it on my own or given up.

You're definitely not wrong in the fact that people who get shitposted a ton are often the ones providing the most help for things in unity/blender though. I'd almost be the shitposters just hit "fix model" in cats, import into unity, upload, and then call it a day with no effort.

https://youtu.be/Hy8kmNEo1i8

>>220550393 (Cross-thread)
I keep my mic at full volume but often times people seem to say I'm quiet. I'll turn myself down if anyone ever tells me that I'm loud I guess, I don't wanna be an annoyance

Who /mute/ here?
It's the most fun, the other day I randomly started talking and people got confused about where it came from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNiEBItYIIQ&list=PLHPl0SFKkUjOndnVQw-Q3Irbv_lQrpxhb

>>220551186
it's too easy to forget mutes are people not NPCs

>>220551186
>....
.... .......!

>>220551481
whom

>>220551186
That's Peccant Canyon right? Where is that treehouse? Did they remove it? in later versions?

>>220550816
i think something gets messed up with voice prioritization sometimes because ive had it where people are way too plucking loud standing next to me and then i walk away and come back and it seems to fix itself sometimes hard to tell if its the volume setting or just vrchats garbage code mesisng up again

>>220551481
If it starts as cancer, it's gonna die as cancer.

Are you going to turn your volume down Minaa?

>>220551481
I think you're mistaken friend, this is the /vrg/ thread, not the sockscord, you'll want to post this there instead of here.

Stop shitposting and post your latest thing you did in unity
>tfw 1/4 as much vram and 1 less draw call
Model performs 1% worse for some reason
>>220551481
good for you its not important enough for the VR thread

>>220551481
This sure is some fine vr posting

It could have had no replies

tfw no tsundere soawkwardfu

>>220551605
The day/night cycle is an animated light, right? That's probably why it tanks to 45 fps dynamic lights and all

>>220551481
It's ok.
Don't come back. If you are the one I'm thinking you are listen: don't try being important. Do not call for attention. Attention is earned, not gifted.

>>220551643
Wanted to make a comfy basement to sit in but ran out of motivation so for now it's just a box.

tfw no nonsperg shinobufu

>tfw legitimately suffer from paranoia and think everyone secretly hates me
>mfw all the backstabbing in this thread

>>220551983
Literally laughing at you in my 35 discords

>>220551878
The pretentiousness of this post is hilarious

>>220551481
Bomber was never in the sockscord, so nice lie faggot

>>220551605
Yeah, its an older version of it, the Treehouse was still there when I last visited, its on a secluded island though, so you will have to glitch your way to it.

>>220552072
Yes he was lmao

>>220550595
Yes, that's what happened to /kspg/, unfortunately though /vrg/ does stay on topic at least somewhat at times so it's unlikely that will happen.

>>220551845
No idea, but that map's night cycle is very pretty. At least on the updates where they've turned off the bloom. I wish map makers would stop using bloom, it's painful in VR.

>>220551983
Unironically this, I even suspect anons who I thought I was close to

>>220551983
Just remember, the people at the meetups are just random people from an imageboard that essiantially coddles and breeds mental health issues. Approach them as people, not friends.

>>220551983
Same. I'm too honest and trusting so I stay away from the meetups.

>>220552153
lol I'm looking at the logs right now and he never joined.

>>220552463
You couldn't be more wrong

>>220551983
I dunno anon there are like 150 some IPs in some of the threads and I don't remember seeing 150 people in a meetup ever, let alone consistently. I know it's the "spooky scary shitposter boogiemen" meme, but I legitimately believe some people are just here to stir the shit. That's why everyone seems content to leave the thread as one environment and the meetups as another

>>220551983
why is the captcha so fucking slow now

>>220551983
I know exactly who you are, and I like you.

>>220552523
Sure bud. I've been in sockscord since day one. Post proof that boomer posted socks there

>>220552880
Nigger so have I, bomber was in there on day one

>>220552978
>Post proof

>>220552880
Bomber was in there for a short while.

Sure is /soc/ in here.

>>220552573
When are you going to turn your volume down Minaa?

>>220552880
>>220553031
If you've been there since day one, why not ask the people in there and fuck off out of the thread?

>>220553070
I guess even when everything is virtual, you just can't escape reality. General.

>>220553034
but he never posted pics, he was in for 2 days. that really doesn't count as being part of that server

>>220553164
Other posters brought it here, they're bringing fake discord shit here to cause drama. They won't even namedrop themselves because they're pussies

tfw no noncreepy tanyafu

Can someone with unity cloth on a skirt show me how you have your colliders lined up? I'm apparently retarded

>>220553213
Deep.

>>220553451
just weight paint your skirt, it won't clip and looks amazing
weight painting sounds intimidating but its great and easy especially for just weight painting the skirt

>>220553545
I tried it. It looks awful and pulls the skirt apart at the seams.

>>220553636
I can show you what my weight paints look like if you want

>>220553636
That's because you did it wrong lol

>>220553636
Don't give up anon

BLACK

BLACK

>>220551983
If you enjoy the moment with someone and they are geniuine with you during that time it is still going to be fun. Every relation ship has an expiry date, only few last until one party dies.

>>220553710
Sure

>>220553836
BROWN

So what went down at the Minami orgy last night?

>>220551186
nice editing. C-can I orbit you?

>>220554257
What do you fucking think?

>>220554043
Give me a second

>>220554257
My will to live.

>>220554257
we had a nice comfy philosophical debate about the nature of mankind

hi, i wanna join your secret hugbox
link me pls

im a loner

>>220554257
manami fucked a standard shader blowup doll of his avatar because no one serious actually showed up

>>220554257
my faith in this general

>>220554402
My sides

>>220554257
the banana raped everyone into a crying wreck

>>220554257
pozz party

>>220554257
https://streamable.com/my6fg

tfw no kirimufu

>>220554812
*snap*

>>220554812
Holy shit my sides

>>220554812
who is the impostor anyway?

>>220555067
That's no imposter.

I'm running high end VR games just fine with my Rift, but for some reason VRChat runs like total shit. When I move my head, the view kind of skips around a bit or get stuck a bit while moving, and the fps seems pretty bad.
Anyone else had these issues?
VRChat seems pretty undemanding so I can't see why it's doing this compared to the amazing performance I get in something like Robo Recall or Sairento

>>220555264
>VRChat seems pretty undemanding
lmao

>>220555284
fucking degenerate

>>220555372
I'm not wrong, am I? Really low quality low poly environments, and some simple models walking around

is the dev just shit at optimization?

>>220555264
The game is optimized like shit

>>220555446
>is the dev just shit at optimization?
ding ding ding ding ding ding

>>220555264
ssome people cant into avatar optimization so it can lag if you got many avatars in your view

>vive starts to mysteriously render 2 screens in one forcing me to see 2 of everything
>only fixes when I unplug and re plug
>prior to it random flashes and screen tears happen
>switched GPU to a different PCIe slot
>fixed unless I mess with the cables too much
I don't understand my motherboard is breaking but this means so are my vive cables too?

>>220555446
>I am a retard and think that rendering is all a game does
every time

>>220555446
>is the dev just shit at optimization?
extreme understatement

>>220555648
Lmao what the fuck more is VRChat doing that other VR games like Rec Room aren't

>>220555446
it runs on one CPU core and is CPU dependent
I don't know how a developer can fuck up that bad
world of tanks also relies on one core but it is not VR and at least it's mainly GPU dependent

>>220555618
Your cable is fucked.

>>220555746
You weren't in a room with Minaa were you?

>>220555618
that happened to me because I was being a retard and spun around too much and it damaged the cable. You need to buy another cable the one that plugs directly into the top of the headset

>>220555896
i just went into the main starting area with people in it and then closed it because it was unbearable

>>220555803
my motherboard has been host to a lot of problems such as disconnecting everything connected to it's USB ports, and telling me no OS found in my SSD so I tell it to look into my HDD where I know no OS is but it loads up as fast as a SSD mysteriously and random temporary freezes
my cable is also tangled up to hell, It may be both

>>220555446
It's 80% the dev's fault, but the other 20% of the problem is those "simple" models with 50 unbatchable drawcalls clogging up the rendering queue. Some maps are quite bad too.

It's an unfortunate side effect of allowing custom avatars with a low bar of optimization enforcement. I'd honestly rather suffer 20fps than be stuck in some sort of SteamVR home generic "two hands and an ugly head" avatar hello though.

>>220556109
>disconnecting everything connected to it's USB ports
god, this happens to me every few months, and it's a total fucking bitch. for some reason is just arbitrarily decides to not recognize me plugging them back in either, so i have to reboot my computer until it decides to recognize my keyboard again so I can boot up.

>>220555746
1. Full body IK
2. Download and load of avatar asset bundles in the background
3. Analytics
4. Keep up with RPCs
5. Dynamic bones
6. Cloth components

>>220555962
Crowded public worlds are actually worse than /vrg/ meetups. People here at least put some effort into optimization, and if it gets really bad people switch into their 2 poly cardboard cutouts or jump to a different map.

>>220554812
>>220555067
>>220555204
>Desktop mode
>broken shoe texture right from VRCmods
>no weight paining on hair and skirt

No one is this retarded to fall for it.

>>220556436
I'd say it's probably more like 65%/35% instead of 80%/20%, but yeah, the devs are largely at fault for the optimization problems.

Guy who wants the weight painting guidelines give me a second I noticed a scuff vertice group I wanna fix before I give an example give me 10 minutes

>>220556735
NA EST late night times? I've joined a random I met and I got the same frames as a blocked by default in meets when I didn't have the option checked in the rando world

>>220556667
so unity assets?

>>220557035
?

>>220557035
it's mostly the IK, dynamic bones, and how they log biometrics.

>>220556776
Fair enough. I wish they'd at least give us more options client-side, to turn off dynamic bones, cloth, or even block specific avatars without blocking the person entirely. Turn off IK calculations for people far enough away. Programmerkun, save us pls.

>>220556972
How many people were in the rando world? NA EST late night meets are well optimized by VRC standards, but the shit IK code (which we as players can't change) still makes instances with ~25 people in them chug.

>>220557035
It's not Unity, it's just the shit they're using for stuff like IK is horribly outdated and terribly unoptimized.

>>220557406
I didnt say it was unity I implied it was because they're using stock unity assets

>>220557319
about the same amount, though there were more desktoppers so I guess the IK was the issue

>>220557447
That's basically true. the version of FinalIK they use is uneditted and full of spaghetti code. If they even bothered to rewrite any of it like they should have, IK would be a non-issue for performance. Not to mention that they can do other things, like make people not have their IK process when at a certain distance

How shit are Skyrim VR and Fallout 4 VR

>>220557638
shit

>>220557621
They should use their resources to make a new game engine or even just recode the biggest used assets
it'd be worthy investment for longevity which they are failing to do

>>220557481
I've ran a material checker at meetups, you're be surprised how pretty on-par with pubs these people are

>>220557774
Some creative ways of having a look at the hard to see wishes

>>220557770
mind dropping said information in the thread?

>>220558052
soon

I really likes the backdrop of this world and the tree swing but I couldn't get a good shot...

>>220555067
Zaubervogel

>>220558141
tupper soon which means never or soon as in you are copy and pasting?

>>220558260
soon as in let me perfect it and I'll make the client public

Cuties

>>220558565
mommy

>>220558334
>an actually malicious client
good idea, can't wait to see all the ban messages in the thread

How do I make lighting for a night map in VRChat? Does anyone have a tutorial or some resources they can share?

>>220553636
So this is what my weight painting looks like, remember you can press V to then start selecting verts and you can hide them outside of weight painting mode as well

Each model is different but generally you wanna heavily paint it then gradually get less towards the edges in this "C" shape and then blur tool it, then modify it based on where "scuffs" appear

>>220559012
>proving people aren't optimized
>malicious
lol

Comfy

>>220559012
>He doesn't know how to block VRC analytics

Laughing at you in the super inner rhombus IRC relay

>>220551983
I feel as though its pointless to worry in the end. If you have even a few people you enjoy spending time with then do so, don't let potential nobodies who you've never met ruin connect toons you've made. They want that.

>>220555780
ACKHTUALLY
game is currently multi threaded in a janky way that makes it run worse than 1 core :^)

>>220559012
a similar tool is in the official closed beta testing channel anyways, so just wait for it then

>>220559834
>he doesn't use programmer-kun's avatar explorer to find material whores

>>220560032
>not everyone is in the socks discord

>>220560098
>socks

>>220559516
cozy

lets say I want to attach a tail to my avatar, do I do that in blender or unity?

>>220560134
thought that was where programmer kun lives

>>220560232
oh boy

>>220560318
wh-where is he

>>220560192
God I love that snake avatar so much I hope they make her their main avatar

>>220560192
doggie

>>220560228
You can do it in either I think, although I'd say Blender is better.

>>220559825
unity coroutines isn't multithreading though

>>220554464
No, that happened after.

>>220560547
Walkies

>>220560684
okay i would like a more in depth explanation so i dont explain this wrong in the future ,what shit did they do to fuck the game up?

>>220560228
Attach it in blender, and merge its mesh/atlas its texture to the rest of your avatar before exporting.

>>220560360
programmer kun is a gay sockposter, as everyone on that discord

>>220560937
oh so why did you say i was wrong then

>>220560713
suckie

posting from bigscreen vr rn desu this is fucking dank

>>220561139
fuckin epic bro!

>>220561183
No need to be a dick

>>220557319
I'm trying to disable IK that are not rendered/far, but the vrchat code is sphagetti and there are a lot of components with vage names
>>220560937
no you

>don't care about popularity or rumor spreading
>long ago transcended group drama
>emotionally hardened against bad feels from rejection/neglect/autism
>just there having fun in the moment
>everyone likes you

unironically being a 38 year old boomer has its advantages

>>220561248
vrchat devs are vagueposters

posting from bigscreen vr rn desu this is fucking rad

>>220561268
>>everyone likes you
>he doesnt know

>>220561248
>when a gay sock poster can fix the game the devs cant

>download and work on new model
>it has it's issues but it's still something new
>almost done with adding expressions and stuff
>go back to website I downloaded it from and notice there is a way better, updated version I didn't see
big sad

How do people make avatars with "stands", or other stuff where multiple humanoid armatures follow each other's pose? Is it actually the same armature but with the origin of rotation moved somehow for the other meshes?

I personally don't want a motherfucking jojo reference, but I do want a prop to follow my head bone, both position and rotation.

>>220561268
I'm not a 30 year old boomer and I'm the same, get along with everyone just fine. It's incredibly easy to make friends if you aren't a piece of shit to people

>>220560740
they're using an old version of unity that doesn't have a concurrent task scheduler or support C#/.NET async/await (and all of the stuff under the System.Threading.Tasks namespace).

new versions of unity support that I believe.

imo though, due to the nature of unity and its legacy design, it'll never be able to optimally utilize many core CPUs in the same way better written engines can (an example would be idtech 6).

t. dev

>>220561750
what about the jobs system

>>220561268
Holy shit I did not think we had any actual boomers at the meetups.

>>220561903
That's not even the age range for an actual boomer you retard.

>>220561831
a task scheduler is just another name for a job system. jobs/tasks, same deal

>>220561831
only avaiable in Unity 2018.1 because as >>220561750 said versions before that do not support .NET 4.6

>>220561987
whats the difference between a task scheduler and multicore

>>220561962
>That actual boomer that doesn't understand memes

>>220561268
are you me?

>>220561248
Godspeed anon. Did you ever hear back from the official devs on the dynamic bones hack, or all they still all too busy jerking themselves off to private nepbar recordings?

>>220562170
I've talked a lot with tupper ever since

>>220562153
Based fake anger poster

>>220562153

>>220562241
That's good, hopefully they're being reasonable. Do your best, tuptup

Damn it's really starting to feel like a heatwave here. I'm glad I'm not trying to dance in vr in this weather. Vigorous exercise heats you up and increases your risk of heatstroke, so try to limit yourself while it's hot (that includes vrsex, sorry pervs). Make sure to drink enough water, and get enough salt too. Drinking a lot of water drains salt from the body and too little salt can be even worse than too much. Also before you open the windows ask yourself if it's hotter outside or inside, if it's hotter outside leave them closed. (I guess it sounds obvious when you say it like that but I never would have thought of it by myself). Cool baths and drinks are a great way to cool down if you feel overheated, while hot drinks, caffeine and alcohol make it harder to deal with the heat.

>>220562101
>says "actual" boomer
>doesn't know the "actual" range for a boomer
>tries to play your own stupidity off as a joke all along
It's okay to admit you're a little retarded, it makes people look cuter sometimes.

>>220562036
a task scheduler is a software system that schedules asynchronous tasks aka jobs to be run by worker threads. it can be as simple as an asynchronous queue and a thread pool, although more advanced implementations typically have work-stealing queues for each worker thread, and a way to do fine-grained thread wake up.

multicore refers to the hardware having multiple CPU cores on the same die or package

>>220562767
Don't bully the special ed children.

>>220562767
First day here, Grandpa?

>>220562497

>>220562741
Someone send this to the banana

>>220562601
Anyone have one of those ridiculous """vive and chill""" things? It looks retarded, but I won't lie and say I'm not tempted.

>>220562938
You're right, anon, it is expecting too much for people to admit they're retarded

>>220562601
thank you mr weather report man

did noenoe add matcaps to his shader yet

>>220562767
>I'll pretend i don't understand the meme

The jig is up bucko just walk away from your computer slowly and nobody gets hurt

>>220561676
It's different armatures, each puppet's bones having a fixed joint component that points to the matching bones in the main armature.

The prop needs to have a bone/s.
Add rigid body component to head bone.
Add fixed joint component to prop bone.
In the fixed joint component, point/link it to the head bone.
In the fixed joint component, experiment on which (xyz) position to freeze.

Seeing a dead pixel in oculus that's always green. Does anyone else have this problem?

>>220562153
>that 500 year old boomer

>>220563032
Got one and I'd say it's worth the price. On it's own it's not gonna cool you down during the summer heat, but it definitely is a good addition that helps out.

>>220563335
>jelly tries to meme again
You should know better by now

>>220562601
No because I own a Central AC system

>>220563447

>>220563218
Is it just a single pixel, in one eye? If you google around there are ways to fix stuck pixels, some more dubious than others. Best thing to do is to ask oculus support and hope they cover stuck pixels under warranty. It's still just an LCD screen in there, it can happen.

Who /likesmargaritas/ here? Nothing like drinking a nice cold one after dropping the kids off at school

So is /vrg/ ultimately just aggressive faggotry, shit memes, and desperate people being clingy?

>>220561390
>he doesnt post with his steam controller from core 2.0

>>220563216
>fixed joint
thanks a lot, that was the term I was missing.

>>220563825
And socks, don't forget socks

>>220563825
There's plenty of avatar and world creation in the background.
If you go to the meetups, you'll see niggas who think they're hot shit with their deviantart tier aesthetics.

>>220563825
yes

>>220563825
yes, this is actually Autism Spectrum Disorder General

>>220564005
how are you liking the smell of your own farts?

>>220563926
>>220564005
>>220564008
>>220564134

>>220564005
deviantart has good aesthetics

>>220564193
stop smelling each others asses

>>220551186
mutes are either very fun or boring, I couldn't do all the motions to compensate for simply using a mic.

>>220564271
make me

>>220563893
I was able to implement puppeteering in blender through bone constraints before someone told me it doesn't export to unity and that I have to use fixed joints.
I was new to unity so I had no idea what they meant.
The magic words I needed alongside fixed joints was "add component".
Everything snapped together after that.

>>220563687
It only appears on the left eye

>>220564375
Are we doing this boy

>>220564260
t. meowgina

>>220564585
F. it's probably an actual stuck pixel then. Beg the zucc for a replacement. If you bought it in the past 30 days they should take it back no questions asked.

>>220564005
I've always found blue's particularly trashy. It's like if a scene kid was put in charge of the design, but couldn't make it to the appointment, so they picked up some 50yr old businessman to do the job instead.

>>220564840
I bought it about 50 days ago and have tried to take good care of it. Never exposed it to sunlight and I clean the lenses regularly. This makes me really sad

>>220564998
I'm sorry anon, LCD technology is cruel. You should still contact oculus support anyway. I'm googling around and some people say they have a 1 year hardware warranty, but it's unclear if they cover single dead pixels, so definitely ask. And as much as I hate to say it, r/oculus might be a better place to ask if other people have solved the same problem somehow.

Last night's screenshots!

>anons who make avatars in a porn game but do not lewd
why?

Nikei getting lucky.

>>220557774
good example of the best and worst in body language

Is there any way to unblock someone unless they’re in the same instance?

>>220566947
tried using the use search function yet? Should work I assume

>>220566947
No

little update with the map. thought a nice wharf theme would be cool

Did anything come of that vrporn shoot? Would anyone be interested in another one?

>>220567516
getting close to finishing the base layout. will add all the bullshit people love after

>>220567516
figuratively whom

>>220567713
Local Bote

>>220567705
Looking nice, where did you get the assets? You should add a bunch of trash/clutter props with physics, like HL2.

>>220567959
>It's another Johnny posts selfie's episode.
I love these episodes!

>>220567705
What settings are you using to get everything so dark? I'm trying to make a dark map too.

>>220568057
>selfie's

Why is the word selfie posessive?

>>220567705
>>220567516
how is this map, script-wise? does it have anything difficult? if so i'll suck your dick to show examples of how it works

>>220568302

Fixing the bottom of a featureless car.

>>220568032
I have a ton from basic free unity asset packs
>>220568170
Mess with the default unity light source that’s in the project. Rotate it around A bit. It’s gonna be much darker from that in the final build.
>>220568287
I’m just dragging shit into the world. Super simple atm.
Also
>nepbar?

This is probably a dumb question but how do you add ambient music to play evenly everywhere in the world?

>>220568287
>script-wise
I don't know what you're on about, and I don't think you know what you're on about
Just drag shit into unity and add mesh colliders to them.

>>220568935
make a audiosource with a lot of range

Tfw ywn again have a VRirgin hunter eagerly deflower and ruin you.

>>220568057
Not sure if sarcastic

>>220568910
>I’m just dragging shit into the world. Super simple atm.
have... have you looked at the drawcalls yet?

>>220566584
Because they are cute and an easy ``OC'' model.

>tfw only people to comfort me when i was in tough shit was lib and faith
fuck everyone else that told me to lol grow up get over it

>>220569293
It’s super unoptimized atm. Gonna do a drawcall optimizer once I’m done with the main scene

tfw too shy about talking to comfort with words and no hands to headpat with

>>220570182
batched draw calls matter less than a skinned mesh renderer draw calls, just re use materials often and set it to instance bake your lights and use occlusion

>>220508990 (Cross-thread)
My best NA tanabata group photo. Thanks again to YUKI.N for putting the world and tree together.

>>220570023
You don't want to become dependent on the comfort of others.

>>220570512
Yea there’s a ton of dupes and I’m alittle over 200 drawcall atm. Lighting comes later and toss around trashprops so I’m hoping to shoot for under 400 for sure

>>220570802
draw calls on a map literally dont matter, just instance as many materials as you can and bake your lights. i recommend light probes for avatar lights, make all your objects static and use occlusion culling

The man they call pinapples

The most flattering angle of Johnny's map.

>>220570537
And here's literally all of the group photos I took. Witness as a wave of SOSdan washes over the boats and caminos.

>>220570907
Awesome thanks for the tips. Got everything static at the moment and lights come next.
>>220571179
Probs gonna move that graffiti wall a bit

>>220571353
Fast timelapse version also cute.

He had thot spray! Fortunately that doesn't work on me.

>>220570537
>>220571353
>>220571884
>tfw missed it
fuck when we goin back

220528065
thanks for the support but

>wanted to preview a sample of what I have so far
>it didn't actually save the mapping even though it was auto saving and did a manual save before going to bed
>hours of progress simply gone
welp, guess I'll just do a different shorter song anyway, this was a whopping 3 minutes long anyway

Who would win: 32768 drawcalls, or one confirmed lewd boat?

Snipers at the lighthouse

Here's a good absurd shot.

>>220570935
you disrespect the don?
you sleep with the trouts tonight

>>220572331
>a shitty HMS winning ever

This was the tent for the non-gays...

>>220573568
...and this was the tent for the gays

It's coming home la'

>>220573787
yes mate

>>220573568
so sad and lonely

>>220573787
>**
I was tempted but kept it at one. For now.

>>220574229
Do it right now

A tender moment in the trees.

coffee

>>220574682

Buncha dorks holding their breath at the bottom of the pool

comfy camp time

>>220574962
VRPill's pool map also had some weird platforming puzzles in the back. This path led to a diving board way above the pool. Mom jumped first.

>>220575292
...landing straight on top of that poor bird, crushing him to a pulp.

A picture with one of my favorite boats.

>>220575292
Those climbing parts of the map were pretty fun.

The other path goes even higher. Surprisingly freaky walking up that thing in VR.

>all the boats and caminos will look up and shout "Save us!"... and we'll look down and whisper "No."

>finally get done with chores
>finally get done with new model
>"Cant wait to show off my summer model to all the anons"
>"oh wait why is my vision going"
>fucking ocular migraine
I cant fucking see right, but all i want to do is play vrchat

>>220559259
I've been trying to do this for a while. Everything I do is somehow worse than just leaving it as is.

Golfing with the lads. Gonna stroll down to the park later and challenge some other seniors to a rousing game of shuffleboard while reminiscing about the good ol' days.

Is there VRChat porn anywhere?
I feel like it should be very common but other than one dude changing into a futa character and chasing people around for no reason I've never seen porn.
Maybe I'll regret asking for it, but whatever.

>>220577719
Why do people actually do things when I'm offline?

>>220577134
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNO7Yosh6fQ was kind of helpful to me. Turning down the strength and weight of the brush makes it easier to smoothly weight the vertices. Also you can select and hide other vertices that you don't want to occlude your painting, like your hands. Also remember you can rotate your leg bones in pose mode and still weight paint, which makes it easier to fix specific out-of-place vertices.

This cutie fell asleep during my headpats.

>>220578208
I don't understand why I'm weighting the front of the skirt at the bottom to a value of 1 and it barely follows the leg. Why would it clip if it's weighted at 1?

>>220577719
WATER HAZARD

>>220550662
Placing the credit onnpeople that are named is also kinda weird though. Many of us here helped anonymously, its kind of shit to think my help is getting credited to someone else since they have a name. Making a statistic about figures you are not sure of sucks.

>>220577719
It must have been really laggy with Minaa there

Hugging snake lady.

>>220574094
It's coming home lads!

>>220578362
Did you remove the weight on the vertices from your original skirt bones? Your skirt bones are probably parented to your spine still, and I'm not sure how the armature decides which one wins. It's easiest to delete your original skirt bones entirely. Always save a backup .blend file, of course.

That was very comfy.

>>220578604
Omg, so this is why the skirt was so buggy on my avatar. I'm glad I saw this post.

>>220573189
H-hey man HMS is good boat

>>220578821
t. notoriously lewding vampire boat loli

hey guys I made a vr dating site let me know what you think
https://vrlfp.net/

>>220574962

How do I fix my fingers? They look fine in blender, then porting to unity shows up fine til I get to the skeleton mapping config.

>>220578804
You're welcome. I actually made a video of my second time weight painting my skirt, but I also forgot to remove the original skirt bones, so it's not as good. The keyboard shortcuts I'm using are visible though, if that helps anyone. I'll do better next time.

>>220575242
what in the fuck is this

>>220573568
>uses a voice changer and plays as a woman
whatever you say, pal

>>220578470
>Many of us here helped anonymously, its kind of shit to think my help is getting credited to someone else since they have a name
I know that feel. I avoid being identifiable in posts and it just leads to someone else being praised as the originator when they pass it on.

>>220579283
My first skirt weight painting venture looked a lot better, except the mesh was decimated to shit.

>>220579280
If it's a custom maid, you have to rotate the end finger bones to match the finger direction.

>>220578604
Everything I do makes it look worse

The devil may cry meme van!
With a video:
https://streamable.com/tp6us

>>220579409
yeah but not in a gay way

>>220579691
GOD DAMN IT I MISSED THIS AAAAAAAAA

>>220579584
yeah model did come from CM3D2 but it's the only one with finger issues. Should I fix it in blender or unity?

>>220579584
I never had to do that

>>220579992
Blender. Only the final bones require fixing.

>missing the whole weekend because of shitty work schedules
might as well leave for another week and a half so I'll at least get a warm welcome back

>>220579605
Post screenshots of your weight painting, we can still try to help. You can switch to solid rendering mode/hide the head vertices if your model is easily recognizable and you don't want that.

>playing Rec Room
>play the quest that part of the weekly challenge or whatever
>pro as fuck archer, 90% accuracy fast shooting
>find some cool bros to play with, a battle mage, and a knight, and some kid that's half decent but uses different weapons every level
>get to the second to last level
>knight and kid drop out
>we reach the final boss together
>get two phases down
>third phase is just too much, too overwhelming, impossible for just the two of us
>lose

>>220578470
I didn't mean the anons he explicitly listed.

>>220578470
namedrop people who help when cat gets stuck in blender

>>220579432
>help people out in the thread
>get shat on for months in return
>continue helping
>finally recognized a little
>some anon in the thread tries to anonymously take credit

>>220581168
>get shat on for months for helping anonymously in the thread
Honey, if you were doing it anonymously, they wouldn't be able to target you. Unless you feel you should be immune to criticism because you helped that one guy with his avatar that one time.

>>220581461
>1 guy
>1 time
>he doesnt know

>>220581502
>2 guy
>2 time
number doesn't matter
you can be willing to help absolutely anyone with any issue in blender or unity they ever have, and still be an asshole

>>220581634
You're the fucking asshole. I'd still help you in blender/unity because fuck you.

>>220581696
you don't need to help me in blender/unity because I'm better at blender/unity than you fuck you
I'll help you in blender/unity fuck you

>>220580120
I'd rather just pay someone at this point

>>220581782
You literally aren't. Unless you're an actual dev/modeller.

>>220581870
>thinks he's the best blendererer in the community
Humble yourself.

>>220581932
Are you incapable of reading? Kill yourself, if so.

>>220582010
how will he know he has to kill himself if he can't read that he has to kill himself?

>>220581784
>Paying for weight painting
Take a break from blender. Play some VRC or some other VR game. Then come back and post your screenshots and >>220581502 this autist will help you for free.

>>220568935
Make it 2d. t. someone who knows, don't listen to the other guy he's an IDIOT desu

Actually done helping anyone in the thread, the other 2-4 thread helpers can take the entire burden fuck this place.

>>220582215
Just going to solely shit post now? That'll show 'em.

>>220582215
help me anon ;__;

>>220582010
I'm incapable of quantifying your level of expertise with Blender solely through anonymous posts, yeah. Don't have a fucking clue who you are, if I'm supposed to, but I don't think that matters.
Have some humility, you cunt. Lot of varied skillsets in /vrg/, I've no doubt some people are better than me and you at some things, and that you're better at other things than them. Understand that just because you're confident in your abilities doesn't make you better than anyone else.

>>220582459
Enjoy helping yourself faggot

>>220582609
I will. And if you're done helping people in the thread because you can't handle not getting the credit you deserve, I'll enjoy helping others, as well.

A cute Shigure!

real selfie hours

>>220582696
>wanting credit
It's not about getting credit, it's about getting sick of helping the same people shitting on their friends. I just realised why am I helping those types of people?

>>220582758
Always a cute.

m8 u coming or what?

>>220580105
I have to work every weekend. Don't know if I'll ever have the chance to drink in VR again.

My friends from Tera!

>>220583193
yeah, that shigure is dangerously cute

>year 6, month 7
>still no shitpost capable headset

3d modeling isn't video games

>>220583189
If that's how you feel, then that's how you feel. I'm not going to be able to change your mind.
I'm curious about the man who thinks no one other than an industry professional could be his equal, just because he's made a couple of anime girls, though.

>>220584007
Why are you like this?

OK OK
What is the absolute definitive answer on the viewball position? I've been keeping it between my avatar's eyes, just beneath the skin, and it's still kinda off

>>220584069
I also feel the need to get the last word in. Reply and prove me right :)

>>220584174
Different for each avatar I usually do it relative to the neck as in almost directly above it then between the eyes and nose. Then I tweak it so my vrhead lines up to where I can put my hands on my cheek and mouth to my mouth.

>>220582758
How do you get those arm flaps to flow well? Can anyone post their settings to make it look nice? I won't use it in meetups. Promise.

>>220584007
People around here know exactly who the skilled and experienced ones are. He’s not one of them. He just really wants to feel important.

>>220584258
You are such a massive shitter, what is wrong with you?

>>220584385
even the skilled ones share his sentiment though.

>>220584385
You're not one of them, guarentee you use cubeds on an un atlassed model ripped from fucking deviantart, you shaderlet garbage incapable of pressing 5 buttons to atlas. I hope your grandma gets run over by a reindeer, it's the perfect meme death the one responsible for your garbage thinking deserves.

>>220584385
>People around here know exactly who the skilled and experienced ones are
If someone has only contributed anonymously then obviously no-one is going to know what their skill level is.

>>220584340
How deep? Does depth really matter? If I put it directly above the neck it'd be pretty deep in my avatar's head. I've had a few issues lately where it seems like my viewpoint sinks into my avatar's clothes when I'm sitting and stuff, and that's just beneath the skin in between the eyes

>>220584645
One material, one mesh. That’s like 9 less drawcalls than you. I know it sucks to hear, but if you’re mentally disabled to the point where you’re unable to perform basic tasks, then you’re a literal retard and almost everyone here is significantly more capable than you at everything.

>>220584908
Obviously the ones worth anything aren’t stupid enough to help anonymously and then sperg out for not getting enough recognition.

>>220585040
Viewball depth mostly only matters for kissing. Maybe also immersion, being able to look down at your body. My viewball is at Z=0.02, and I've heard that some people even put it in the negatives. For FBT sitting, I don't know if anybody's figured out a way to make that work. I'm kind of waiting on making the FBT plunge myself until they redo that whole thing.

>>220585079
Literally what is wrong with you?

>>220585263
being this smug should be illegal

>>220585227
What is wrong with you?
>>220585040
I usually put it as deep as the neck but viewballs don't have an end all algorithm to get it perfect so you have to really put it close enough go in game then move it back and forwards relative to if you can touch your cheeks and your mouth is where your mouth is, also looking down to see if the body lines up enough

>>220585227
Identifying yourself in the thread is the easiest shortcut to attention in a meet up. There's no point calling it out though, because there's so many doing the same thing all day in discord anyway.

>>220585263
>tfw its finally happening

>>220586218
said i would do it anon

>>220586208
It's a better means of helping and it feels better knowing who you helped, knowledge should be freely transmitted

>>220586001
Better get that victim card out quick.

>>220586458
Nobody is pulling a victim card you're just a massive shitter. Should unironically kill yourself for being such a pussy he resorts to anonymously shitting on people because he's afraid his online reputation in a community of socks wearing faggots will take a hit.

>>220582758
>>220584351
cloth physics
they are actually pretty good for optimization. cloth physics require splitting the designated part of the mesh into a seperate mesh, but- and I dont quite remember how this goes- but it is better for performance because it handles it on another core or whatever

I do wish someone would make a guide on how to fuck with cloth physics for vrchat

>>220586679
>pretty good for optimization.
Just as bad as dynamic bones, especially considering everyone bypasses the poly limit. Should use weight paints for dress/skirt and possibly cloth physics for hair, probably shouldn' use it at all though.

Last screenshot. This is a blue version of a certain penguin.

>>220586418
The purpose of an anonymous image board was to avoid the poster's identity influencing the perception of the post.

>>220586909
How can someone possibly be this cute

>>220583992
you must be new here

>>220586909
gay

>>220587064
No you

>>220586679
Tupper said cloth physics are just as bad for optimization as dynamic bones.

>tfw see vrfu headpatting someone else
How do I get over this feeling?

>>220586946
The purpose of an anonymous imageboard was never to be linked in any way to your identity in an online VR game for boomers sucking virtual cock. By shitting on people you are breaking a wall of anonymity and destroying the entire purpose of the site, and essentially cheating on the other end where you aren't anonymous. You are deathly afraid your words will make people see you in such a bad light, rethink them instead od abusing your anonymity to be a shitter. It's pathetic you can't speak up your opinion to people you dislike and doubly pathetic you are afraid of attaching your identity to your true thoughts. You might as well not even be a person if you're going to conform so hard you can't speak your true thoughts and have to abuse one way anonymity, and try to use anonymity as a defense, whilst attributing identities you perceive to posts, thereby violating the rule of anonymity.

>>220582173
How do I go about doing this?

>>220587332
>The purpose of an anonymous imageboard was never to be linked in any way to your identity in an online VR game for boomers sucking virtual cock
reminded me of my first time visiting here in january and an argument was there at the time that the meet ups are going against 4chan culture and we should stop
thanks for the nostalgia trip

>>220586849
>cloth physics for hair
Does this actually work? I thought cloth physics required zero-thickness meshes.

>>220587538
The entire premise of a general goes against 4chan and arguing anonymity in a /soc/ game is retarded

>>220587332
>whilst

>>220587332
I wanted no name drops of any kind. I wanted us to only be identifiable in VR.

>>220587604
I heard of some people using it for hair. Try it. I've never used cloth physics as its not that much better than dynamic bones, I just don't use dynamic meshes at all. Ask around the meetups theres a few who know how to set it up.

>>220583431
Oh Tera...back when it was a little challenging to solo BAMs it was pretty fun, now though it's just depressing.

>>220587831
Too bad others constantly drag names to the thread because they can't release any anger besides a shitpost with no repercussions attatched.

>>220583431
Déjà vu

>>220587839
Stop being such a phreak about performance jesus christ. Dynamic bones and cloth physics are fucking great and you should use them in every small meetup specially now that other people can interact with them. I'm tired of seeing your boring static hair/breasts

>>220587604
i used cloth physics for my twin tails it works okay but it took a lot of time playing with the sliders and painting those ranges for how far it can move. also in some cameras i had weird glitches like the twin tail was sticking through the center of my chest but when i asked around people said they didnt see it. i liked how it reacts realistically when you move it around though was fun playing with it and moving it around in real time

>>220588136
I don't have any hair or breasts.

>>220588136
I wish I could see your bouncing tits and 100 hair bones, but I only have .5 fps sorry.

>>220588263
Please decimate your hair as much as you can if you're using cloth physics. It's dependent on the amount of verts rather than bones. Just decimate as much as possible before you lose the visual fidelity and nobody can shame you.

>>220588403
each strand of hair/ribbon was a different mesh and the model wasn't atlased

>>220588274
Why are you exagerating things? You know very well people is not dumb and limit their dynamic bones, then there's people even dumber who don't use them at all

>>220588524
NOBODY atlases their GOD DAMN models and I am ABSOLUTELY livid

>>220587831
For what reason though? This thread is just an extension of those meetups in VR. How can you avoid people's names in a social game? I'm not saying hey lets all drop our anonymity this website has a name field lets all use it because lol social game, but I don't see the big deal in dropping a person's name here where relevant.

>>220588524
>You know very well people is not dumb and limit their dynamic bones
Completely flase, people still think 1 dynamic bone script on a chain of 100 dynamic bones is one bone. It probably doesn't matter on just tits but cloth like capes and hair and skirts usually have absurd amount of bones. It's not really anyone but the creators fault either, it could be much more performant. And honestly? The game probably limits us more than dynamic bones does, but we can only do so much before we hit that wall that doing as much as we c` is needed so I actively encourage (no i dont shame) the use of no dynamic meshes.

>>220588645
Do we need to start posting our atlasses again? Put the good atlassed bois on the good boi list?

>>220587974
Please don't make fun of the elderly with alzheimer's.

>>220588403
i already decimated it down pretty low in blender before i put cloth physics on it makes doing that constraint painting way easier too if you don't have to deal with a billion verts. ive been sticking to the dynamic bones version lately anyway just since i find its less glitchy to deal with

>>220588514
>was
Some nice anon helped them with that. Stop witch hunting for optimization, or if you wanna continue witch hunt Tupper who was 30 dynamic bones during his salem trials and was lagging you more than a no dynamic bone 30 material TDA base. Or the devs for not making the game performant.

>>220588810
absolutely.
I'll put the atlased good boy list on my shapekeyed clipboard and anyone who isn't on the list can't go into the meetup.

>>220588903
I hear a good number to be below for dynamic bones is around 15 I haven't tested it or see the results of a good number yet though, so the information isn't too reliable.

>>220588976
We need bouncers at the meetups. If your name isn't on the atlassed list, you can't join.

Now start posting those atlasses I don't want to be the first one.

I only have 8 active materials, but I don't feel like showing up to these things if there's even a chance some sperg is going to start renting about me desu.

>>220570537
>>220571353
>>220571884
Neato. These are amazing. Thanks a lot kind anon for this compilation webm! If people are this excited for events like these, then there will be more to come!
Keep being amazingly energetic /vrg/. We'll do more fun events in the future!

>>220588976
>tfw 5 512x512 materials
close enough

>>220589106
oh christ the model actually has a penis I couldnt tell from the mesh

>>220589106
Atlasing doesn't matter nearly as much as dynamic meshes. If you're going to witch hunt for optimzation, at least do it right.

>>220589241
holy shit

>>220589343
You can actually see dynamic bones/cloth physics on people though so you know when they're using them. You don't know if someone's atlassed or not unless you see them post proof of it.

>>220589241
post steven hawking mesh count

>>220589406
You don't know how many bones/verts they have. Atlassing does not matter as much as you think it does (not saying don't atlas, please reduce your materials as much as you can, optimization is good rpactice)

>>220589515
You can tell if something is a lot of bones or not based on how fluidly they move.

>>220589106
>>220588976
>>220588810
Fuck off. You don't get to attention whore by posting identifiable images like that under the guise of a common good. An atlas is not proof of material count either.

>>220585974
It helps make headpats more immersive too.

>>220589559
Not to an accurate degree, proper weight painting on a small amount of bones can easily look better than a ton of bones.

>>220589343
you would be surprised, one time tupper called someone out because they were 117 materials as a generic anime girl
turns out the person had taken a 3d model of some xenoverse dbz map and put it into their avatars hand

>>220589581
t. 30 material shitter
>>220589651
Very few people do proper weight painting to simulate fluid bone movement with fewer bones though, and I'm willing to bet those who do know how to do that and spend the effort doing it know how to atlas.

>>220589581
>muh anonymity more important than optimizing
Nah, fuck off

>>220589673
Those draw calls only matter once it spawns, and if the materials were instanced (they probably werent in this case) draw calls are "smaller". You can batch those.
>>220589764
You are good material wise if you're below 10 materials, and if you are "multi-atlasing) you can't justify any material being above 1k or 512x512 if 3 or more materials. 1k for 2, 2k for 1 and 515x515 for 3-10. (technically it only frees up a little vram but meh)

>>220557774
>>220558001
Sugoi. A zoom camera and a solid snake. But which one is better.

>>220589673
yeah and tupper was 30 dynamic bones at the time and about at least 3 meshes (his special snowflake badge is 2)
He isn't exactly a paragon fo optimization himself, he should feel bad for starting an optimization witch hunt when he wasw 30 dynamic bones and most likely 3 meshes.

>>220589953
Difference between a 2k atlas and a 4k atlas is negligible, many times 4k is needed depending on amount of materials the model initially has as well as texture detail. You are retarded if you ever go to 8k though.

>>220589953
>vram
>when VRC is necked at the CPU and barely touches VRAM
M8, get out with your 3gb piece of bullshit.

>>220589925
More like your attention whoring is more important than optimizing.

>>220590178
>attention whoring
This word sure has been thrown around a lot lately in these past few threads, seemingly by someone who doesn't know quite what it means.

>>220590129
It doesn't doesn't matter even to 3gb cards until you start using 4k+ and you have no defense to using 4k+ textures ever. Also considering we havw laptoppers you now have 0 argument for using 4k textures. ever. Textures look perfectly fine at 1k. You aren't getting any more detail making them needlessly big. You optimize for the lowest tier not >i spent 800 dollars on a 1080ti

>>220589581
>An atlas is not proof of material count either.
this is true actually. I had a model that was 1 texture- but like 30 materials. it seems to be fairly common

>>220590129
>barely touches VRAM
Some are walking around with hundreds of MB of textures and they don't even know it.

>>220590340
>Also considering we havw laptoppers you now have 0 argument for using 4k textures. ever.
I'm not going to sacrifice my texture quality just because some shitter is using a laptop.
>>220590381
That's because you didn't merge any of the materials. It's not an atlas if you have 30 materials that are all the same texture.

if you dont have an i12 and a titan sli you shouldnt be playing vrchat, my 24k atlas is justified as well as my 150 dynamic bones.

>>220590340
>tfw someone's laptop ran vrc as well as my pc during a meet

>>220587332
Nice blog post Jelly. I really enjoyed yiur excessuve use of buzzwords. Hypocritical literal rested.

>>220590381
You could make every vertex on the atlas a separate material.
>>220590340
>textures look perfectly fine at 1k
Too much bait.

>>220590547
I enjoyed your spew of words that attempted to be a sentence.
reembr anions b niese!

>>220590425
>hundreds of MB of textures
Unless you're trying to do that intentionally, there's no way someone can have hundreds of megabytes of textures and be unaware of it unless they had like 30 textures that were all 2k or something.

>>220589464
Jesus wept.

>>220590734

>>220590490
It's usually better to use multiple materials on the same atlas than it is to create one for each material.

>>220590734

>>220590681
Here we see a PBR material where every detail matters, and it looks glorious at 1k. Your 4 different color small amount of detail anime model will never be justified going over 2k. VR headsets don't even see the full benefit of 1k until its in your face and you see a part of it.

>>220590734
my limited vocabulary renders me unable to type any words that are appropriate for this situation

>>220590734
it probably took more time assigning mats than it wouldve to press ctrl j holy fuck lol
>>220590913
How? 5 512 by 512 with dedicated textures to it can provide the same, if not more and 1/4th of the ram usage than 5 2k with 1 texture atlas being used for each slot.

>>220590724
I was using 160 MB at one point because I presumed the png's file size would be the same as the VRAM usage. You could have a 4096x4096 black square that is 16 KB and it could still use 80 MB of VRAM.

>>220590945
how many materials originally was that room anyways? less materials means it's easier to atlas at lower resolution maintaining quality

>>220591181
In that case I'd use a single 1k atlas and just reduce the size of everything so it fits.

>>220591307
its a map its not atlased, but the materials are reused and instanced. your anime model has less detail than the textures used here and does not need a 4k texture anywhere.
>>220591380
a single 2k atlas isn't bad either, if you are using multi materials is when you go below 2k.

Being assholes about optimization is just going to encourage people to not optimize out of spite.
Instead of being mean about it, warmly encourage people to optimize and help them when they're having trouble with it.
There are always going to be some people who will still not do it, and some who will insist that they are optimized by their own bizarre set of rules. You can't really reach those people with either approach.

>>220590945
Yeah, I'm sure my 20 MB of VRAM usage is absolutely crippling you.

>>220591565
it isnt but it could cripple a desktopper and you're probably needlessly using vram for no increase in quality.

>>220591485
what? you don't atlas maps? never made one before so I assumed it was the same, I use 2k all the time

>>220591485
>does not need a 4k texture anywhere
Retard.

>>220591705
You do. He’s new to maps. Ususally doesn’t know what he’s talking about at all though.

>>220591705
Maps are an entirely different beast, due to occlusion culling and batching materials. Its also not ona skinned mesh renderer and you can stop the multiplication of draw calls with baked lights and make objects static to further reduce performance.
>>220591845
Why would you atlas a map? Elaborate?

>>220591734
the only anime models I see that would ever need more than 2k are typically custom maids as they tend to have multiple colors and shades on damn near every material and not just deviant art solid color

>>220591845
>atlases map
>uses dynamic lights
>doesnt bake occlusion
>gets 45 fps
o-optimized virgin map vs
>doesnt atlas
>instances materials
>used baked lights and reflection probes
>static game objects
>light probes for avatars
>gets 90fps
chad un"optimized" map

>>220591687
If someone has 1 GB of VRM that's their problem. What next? Actually obey the poly limit because someone might be using a 15 year old graphics card?

>>220592175
polys matter more than atlassing does.

>>220591906
The same reason why you would atlas an avatar. You wouldn’t know since you use 9+ materials on yours. It’s not hard, why wouldn’t you do it? I guess if you’re too lazy to get a job then you’re probably too lazy to optimize.

>>220592254
Are you the 'delete your megabytes of shape keys' baitposter?

>>220592254
under 65k they actually don't

>>220592290
you atlas avatars because they are skinned mesh renders and not static objects that can be batched, its like you dont know the difference between a batched draw call and a skinned mesh renderer draw call, its almost as if you are applying avatar knowledge to world building wrongly.>>220592413
not hat was retardation.

>>220589106

Anyone else play this? It's pretty fun except I can't figure out how to fucking reload guns, how to take mags out slide new ones in to be exact. I got cornered trying to figure it out, threw the whole gun at the zombie and quit before it could touch me.

>>220592425
even then they don't

>>220592562
is it out of it's demo?
I still dont know how to reload the LMG in pavlov

>>220590490
>That's because you didn't merge any of the materials. It's not an atlas if you have 30 materials that are all the same texture.
thats because I didnt know about merging materials at the time. this was several months ago.
I downloaded the model, passed it through blender into unity and only saw one material and one sphere. so i assumed I was optimized- until eventually I selected the mesh to handle shapekeys and saw that single material sphere was actually repeated 30 times across the model, it just doesnt show as 30 material spheres in unity.

thats where I learned about merging materials. but ive noticed a lot of MMDs do this. they'll have multiple repeated materials across the body

>>220592513
>>220589581

>>220592682
>>220592425
Benchmarks say otherwise but in vrchat it might be a different story because the game takes up so much cpu

>>220592562
Sure it's not a bug? I was interested in it but apparently it was just buggy as fuck so I passed for a bit.

>>220592513
>extremely inefficient use of space
>could probably be 0.5k with no quality loss

>>220592842
to be fair 1k is insignificant

>>220592682
while true until you get to bizarre amounts such as hundreds of trillions in the version of unity vrchat uses any mesh above 65k polys get's separated into a different mesh

>>220592916
That's 2k. Kinda triggers me, though.

>>220593010
yeah considering unused space and the models details that couldve been 1k easily.

>>220592562
looks shit and buggy go away shill

>>220592730

>>220592725
Yeah, but it's still early access and unfinished.

>>220592834
I thought it was a bug initially but nobody else seems to have this particular problem, which makes me think I'm stupid and not understanding something everyone else picked up on. The game really needs a tutorial or something in the menu to show controls.

>>220593249
>4k
you cant justify that holy shit witht hat much black space you are dedicating so much vram to literally nothing

>>220593249
Oh god, the 1k atlas guy actually has a point if this is the absolute state of the average atlas.

>>220592780
Post benchmarks.

>>220592991
For unity and vrchat, the only thing an additional mesh does is create another drawcall if done correctly. When you don't separate meshes manually, you get what you're describing. The reason why it's an issue when unity automatically does it is because it doesn't account for materials and it multiplies the drawcalls by 2, because both meshes will have all materials.

If you have one atlas on one mesh, and then a different atlas on the second, it's still just 2 drawcalls.

>>220593249
meowgina

>>220593386
lol ok

>>220593249
god fuck off lincoln, your atlasses are so trash

>>220593426
This is msotly cubed being unoptimized but I can run it again with the same shaders being used.

>>220593581
who's that?
anyways I don't use that model after it broke, main one is 2k

>>220593578
Good argument, you literal braindead piece of shit.
>>220593581
"lolok"

>3gblets

>>220593764
Why are you so angry?

>>220593893
lol ok

>got Rift yesterday
>going to try vr porn tonight
I can't fucking wait
Downloading waifu sex sim 3.0 as i type this, already have VR Kanojo downloaded

>>220593893
Because he's not actually that angry, and just wants to start shit

>instead of reading vrchat devs and tupper the riot act on optimizing their shitty game lets go on a witchhunt to see who has a single more material than he should when Tupper has specifically broken down the performance breakpoints on material count, and we now know IK and dynamic bones are far more impactful on performance

we shouldnt have to go out of our way to micromanage materials and shit down the last pixel when the core blame lies with the horrible optimization and resource hungry IK.

optimization is good, and helps the game run smoother, but at the end of the day, with how many people we have at meetups, atlasing alone is not really helpful, and just eschewing dynamic bones doesnt really help either, although it certainly goes a long way. Today, about 90-95% of vrg has some level of vr, and a pretty hefty chunk of that has full body in some capacity. VRG is also much bigger than it was.

so at the end of the day, and we've seen this with the soccer world tests, probably one of the biggest issues, is IK, especially full body IK. in groups as large as our meetups get. But what do you do, stop using avatars that move? stop using IK? whats the point of playing at that point?

tl;dr instead of going on witchunts for who does or does not atlas, which is NOT the end all be all indicator of optimization, nor is it all that helpful given the kinds of breakpoints on materials, light the fire under the vrchat devs asses on optimizing their game so we dont HAVE to be so anal about it ourselves. The user should NOT need to jump through this many hoops to enjoy the game efficiently. Especially when just a few patches ago, performance was better than it is now, and THEY are the ones who fucked it up when they released the camera update and made it worse.

>>220561903
there's more of us than you think

>>220544398 (Cross-thread)
Thanks anon. I'll make good use of it.

>>220593764
are you pretending to be me?

>>220594034
>im objectively wrong and responded with no argument so hes trying to start shit
off yourself, brainlet

>>220594265
>>220594190

>>220594118
why did the camera update fuck it up? It's worse even if there's nobody with cameras out

>>220594118
>especially full body IK
its barely more impactful than normal ik, which desktop and vr use. the initial math for finalik is already done so the 2 kore bonechains full body uses isnt much more

>>220594025
VR Kanojo is cool and all but modded Honey Select is where VR porn shines its brightest.

>>220594118
We can't make the VRChat devs into capable employees that will fix the game's optimization issues. We can mitigate the performance by atlasing and minimizing the amount of dynamic bones we use.

>>220594118
t. 30 materials

last group that stood up the the devs got shotgunned

>>220594459
yeah enjoy your 5 frame increase

>>220594457
>not using cm3d2

>>220594578
I appreciate 5 extra frames

Can anyone report back if Minaa lowered their mic volume yet?

The only thing that will force VRChat devs to fix their shit is competition.

>>220594457
>but modded Honey Select
but i have to put effort into that and i dont feel like doing that tonight
also FUCKING mega is making me wait 6 hours to download the rest of waifu sex sim 3.0 because they want me to pay them money

>>220594710
Too samefacey.

>>220594804
They arent even loud, I can't remember what they sound like. Stop shitposting fucking loser.

>>220594804
sorry couldn't hear you over a cumbird yelling

>>220594804
>he hasn't blocked this faggot yet
enjoy ur 10fps meets lol

>>220594854
use a face mod retard

>>220594578
it's like you don't understand the fact that the devs will never optimize their game and the least we can do is gain 5 frames

>>220595103
thats why the devs need competition

>>220586159
No, it should be mandatory

>>220595204
and It does not have one yet so go optimize your shit in the meantime

>>220595352
my world and avatars are optimized

Is Minaa the new bullying target?
Jelly, Faith, and Arrow are becoming boring.

>>220593615
Can you run some benchmarks with different numbers of polys? E.g. subdivide the mesh or parts of it in blender to try 20k polys, 50k polys, 100k polys, etc, with the same shader. My guess is that performance is pretty flat from 0-65k polys with a sudden jump to twice as slow at 65k, only because unity splits the mesh at that point. I don't think transferring skinned vertices to the GPU and running the vertex shader is the bottleneck, like >>220592780 seems to think.

>>220594920
Shut the fuck up Minaa you're the loudest cunt at the meetup

>>220595589
was actually a t. Jelly shouldve gone with your normal routine, nigger.
>>220595539
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ivt6k-I6lDz5zAW0wSjmhszSFeB52-2wLpd-kof1CS4/edit#heading=h.wi4v534kv5f

currently baking lights here you can try yourself in the meanwhile

>>220595736
i dont even know who they are but theyre on my friends list, so they cant possibly be that loud if i dont remember them

How much would you charge to atlas someone's model for them?

>>220595959
>i don't know but i have an opinion anyway
classic jelly

>>220596048
i do know, ive been around them nd dont remember anything. i remember all the loud ass faggots who stand in circles though

Can we have a karaoke night again? I want to heat Knightchase sing hes really funny and Faith has a pretty light and soft singing voice

>>220595959
Very nasal voice, attached to yuru at the hip.

>>220587332
Anonymity is a double edged sword.But to get the good side of it we have to accept the bad side wherein shitposters.
Culture is culture because people agree to follow it. Breaking from it is well and good from time to time to expand and evolve the culture but never should it be broken for the sake of breaking it.
Being able to talk together anonymously makes it so that people's posts are judged by its content rather than some accumulated "credit score" or on the bad-end "shitposting score".

The main gripe was never "not getting credit" but "namedrops getting credit for anonymous things".
People helping anonymously is more than happy to continue helping anonymously, they just don't want some namedrop getting that credit instead of just being credited to the whole thread anonymously so people keep coming back here for discussion of multiple kind with many different anons instead of going directly to the namedrop's discord and other stuff.
Posting the question also allows discussion around the idea and helps other anons that didn't even think to ask the question yet.

>>220595982
no one is that dense to where they can't atlas or learn to do so in a short amount of time. you just move stuff around, resize, and unwrap if need be. if someone is actually willing you pay you then take them for all they've got, cause it's not hard.

>>220596145
>all the loud ass faggots who stand in circles
who do you thinkthey're talking about? fuck off

>>220595959
it's clear shitposting for bait don't respond all they had to do was go up to him and simply ask him to turn his voice down but instead they waited until a day later and whined in the thread even when there is a mute button

>>220596217
Ah that explains it, you're just the normal shitposter

>>220596220
>people's posts are judged by its content
Not when everyone you disagree with is t. Jelly

>>220596312
Did you turn your voice down yet Minaa?

>>220594457
Where do I get this?

>>220595204
they don't even make money wtf

>>220596518
whod oesnt

>>220596386
Stop even namedropping. And for those that are annoyed by the use of the term then stop being so sensitive to it. It'll go away if you don't feed it. That is if the persons that are being sensitive to the term is actually not wanting the attention or shit stirring.

>>220595459
it's not boring
it's funny to see Jelly sperging out, people losing their shit over Faith, and Arrow surrendering like a typical french

>>220596720
>stop t. Jellying
>indirectly t. Jellys
You are lowkey shitposting.

>>220596752
/vrg/ is one giant lolcow

>>220596752
It's more funny to see people sperg out over perceived sperging when someone calmly insults them.

>>220596782
>indirectly namedropping
>never used a name
Ok bub. You have massive persecution complex whoever you are.

>>220596252
The biggest problem with atlasing is you better be 100% certain the model is finished because once it's atlased you can't separate by materials anymore. Mesh editing in blender without separation will scuff your shapekeys and explode your model every single time.

Someone can say "so atlas before wearing avatar in public" but the fastest way to find problems you might have missed is put it in front of other people.

>optimization
I think blame for VRC's performance is actually more against the users Users break the tri upload limit and have poorly optimized avatars (you don't need multiple 2048x2048 textures, you fucking idiots)

On the other hand the CPU is super taxed because it's not canned animations most of the time, and the x/y/z of multiple limbs on multiple people has to be translated with pretty decent precision. Not to mention the fact it's fucking VR to boot.

Running into the performance ceiling so early into the platform is pretty grim for potential content that could be created though.

>>220596927
>whoever you are
I'm Big Lincoln

>>220587448
There's 2D to 3D slider in the audio component. Slide that to 2D

>>220595982
I'll do it for free.

>>220594364
according to tupper it wasnt just a camera update. they did stuff in the back end which for whatever reason fucked up performance.

>>220594459
well not with that attitude.
>lol the vrchat devs wont do it so lets take all the burden onto ourselves when it doesnt really help because the game itself is just poorly optimized and cant handle such large groups of people
Ill optimize as much as I can, but even if everyone in vrg was atlased and used no dynamic bones, and was under 20K poly, having close to 50 people in a map, with 90% of them being vr, is going to tank performance anyway. the game's breakpoint for performance is around 25 people. We tested this shit back in fucking march. the moment a world hit 25 people, performance took a shit no matter what you tried- and this was pre camera patch when performance was arguably better

>t. 30 materials
nice meme.

>last group that stood up the the devs got shotgunned
crashing people or hanging around the wrong place at the wrong time is not "standing up to the devs".

what do you think standing up to the devs even means? im not saying to assault them or harrass them, but bug tupper about performance every time you see him. bug any dev you see about performance. complain and whine about it publicly and loudly.

>>220597012
no, I blame the devs for making a VR game that is CPU dependent and only runs on one CPU core

>>220597271
There is no difference in performance between desktop users and VR users, they both use the same IK system.

>>220597304
okay, point on that one.
>Unity Initial Release: 2005
>Core 2 Duo processor: 2006
when will be escape the tyranny of single core programming, I swear to FUCK

>>220597068
no I'm Big Lincoln

>>220596351
Just someone who really doesn't like listening to Minaa, I haven't been shitposter-kun since I took to discord. Also, not too hard to find yourself on your friends list, after all, I'm on there. :^)

>>220597340
That's correct, but Tupper literally said that FBT uses have twice the performance load of a normal VR user or desktopper for some reason.

>>220597007
You can still separate parts of the mesh to edit later. Usually vertices that had the same material originally is a separate connected piece of the mesh anyway, so hit L and then P -> separate selection, and join later.

>>220597271
>tfw in december could harbor 60 people

>>220597530
You're not funny, undeadorb.

>>220597550
probably because a regular vr user doesnt actually have legs. the legs use set animations. you control everything BUT your legs. and to an extent your torso.

with full body, you now control pretty much every angle of your character. its why FBt users looks janky when they start running and then stop. because it is switching from the canned run animation to their natural rest pose. this issue isnt really as pronounced on deskop or standalone vr

>>220597530
nah sorry, you're not on mine

>>220597530
>Just someone who really doesn't like listening to Minaa
you know there's a block button, AND a volume button you can use on people right?

>>220597627
back in the past dynamic bones were on common. Colliders were very rare, and cloth physic were secrete voodoo magic. No people load up on all the bling can dump on an avatar. Even public pedestal avataras are this way now.

>>220598086
inb4 orb chimes in to say "muting and blocking is cancer, kill yourself"

How deep can scripting go in world creation? Most of the worlds I've seen in VRC seems so ridiculously basic. VISUALLY I've seen some impressive stuff, but all the scripting seems so bad. Why is it bad? Limited overhead for scripts? Bad language for it?

>>220598183
bullshit, people were having discussions on how to setup colliders for dynamic bones. i'm sure many including myself had dozens

>>220598217
pretty weird those saying this tend to have annoying/loud audio sources, screen blockers, laggers, and earthquake shaders or spam particles
it's almost as if...

Are there any decent VR horror games?

>>220597627
>>220598183
Don't make me remember
https://youtu.be/g3bAJbFZUM0?t=4m20s[/spoiler]

>>220598269
There is no scripting in the game currently. They gave up on allowing playmaker and are writing their own scripting thing

>>220598269
I mean there's a reason playmaker was such a meme

to get anything interesting takes wizardry and trickery, like the way some maps use chairs to induce dance routines or otherwise override emotes.

>>220598269
>bad language for it

No language at all. You've got some canned trigger components in the SDK that can be linked together in a primitive way and that's it. Can't do any kind of logic or anything.

>>220598269
They remove arbitrary C# scripting, so you have to implement any logic you want in their convoluted trigger system + animation state machine hacks. For good reason, to be fair, since you don't want arbitrary c# code running on your computer just from jumping into a portal. Soon™ they're going to release their not!playmaker visual scripting language thing to give more power to map makers. Details on on the dev updates/medium blog.

>>220598426
Epic right? Crying buuhuuu when people block them even though they purposely lag people.

>>220598578
>like the way some maps use chairs to induce dance routines or otherwise override emotes
so, poseballs from second life

>>220598702
second life was better than this

>>220598836
worlds.com revival when?

>>220598974
>wanting more retarded faggots from another game to attentionwhore here

>>220598836
True. There's actual scripting and content there. I think that's what disappoints me so much about VRC right now. I'm not going to call SL a gold standard, but why would you set yourself up to be worse than them from the get go.
I was actually going to reference second life for this whole optimization discussion, but then I realized linden is a bunch of fucking idiots too, and people run around with 20+ different textures because of how much you smash different objects onto your avatar.

>>220598695
I don't actually think they are genuine when they whine or when they say it's cancer it's a simple ploy to be able to annoy you while trying to get the group to shame you at the same time
if they are genuine they are just severely retarded and highly selfish

Soon

>>220599247
>TUBTUB WANT GALACTIC DOMINATION

>>220599186
Kill yourself.

>>220599186

>Poke Abby VR
Holy SHIT
YES

>>220599186

>>220599186
Please do.

What VR games are you guys looking forward to?

>>220599186
>tfw have only 1 confidant
Good job outting yourself. Banned already. from the discord.

>>220599186
nigga you ain't on my friendslist because I ain't minaa. chill out with your autistic self god damn

>>220599647
there are VR games to look forward to? I thought people were already done making VR games

>>220599186
*snap*
very nice.

>>220599186
I'll give it to you, at least this is funnier than the usual shitposts.

>>220599767
Here's what I'm keeping an eye out for, plus whatever unannounced shit valve is making.

>>220599959
>literally nothing
me too haha

>>220599186
t. Jelly

>>220599959