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Thread 221597779 · 07/18/18(Wed)05:04:38 UTC · 778 posts, 161 images. Archived from 4chan /vrg/; deleted posts are not shown.
Stop changing the OP because public enemy "pink pill" did edition
>Recommended VR games
https://pastebin.com/LdEtyhwX
>VRChat Resources and Tutorials
https://pastebin.com/MFWJnVKA
>Atlasing Pastebin
https://pastebin.com/bq7Bg3Qh
>CM3D2 Installation Guide
https://pastebin.com/3fiNEsuq
>Full-body with Rift (Trackers/Kinect)
https://pastebin.com/qmEY5Hs2
>OpenVR Advanced Settings overlay
https://github.com/icewind1991/OpenVR-AdvancedSettings
>Beat Saber custom song downloader and manager
https://github.com/Umbranoxio/BeatSaberModInstaller/releases
>Mods for VRChat & Onward (use at your own risk, some of these may result in a ban if detected, although hasn't happened to anyone yet)
https://pastebin.com/cte8LWyC
>Public Steam Group
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/VirtualRealityGeneral#
>Upcoming Events
7/21 SAT: Summer Festival (wear Japanese summer festival clothes. Kimonos, yukatas, etc.)
8/17 FRI: Mansion Grand Opening
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>>221515213 (Cross-thread)
Last thread
>8/17 FRI: Mansion Grand Opening
whats this
>>221597779 (OP)
What shader should I use if I don't want a part of my mesh to be affected by shadows?
>>221598453
unlit
ackhualee...
>>221598804
i love this bimbo elf
>>221598179
make yourself a room in unity and it is going to be added into a mansion that will go public
>>221597952
big milkies
mommies milkies
>>221585769 (Cross-thread)
Took a break to eat, about to start reading again, still on "The Case of Charles Dexter Ward".
Catchup spoiler isCharles Dexter Ward vanished from an insane assylum after doing lengthy investigations on his ancestor Joseph Curwen who had been communicating with dead and creating horrible abominations before his death. Story is told like a past-tense report so we're up to the part where Ward actually goes mad and becomes physically mutated, at the start of the story it's stated he barely ages and has almost no metabolism or need for food.
>>221598936
dammit at least post one where the eye isnt scuffed
>>221599418
>tfw eurowagecuck
I really enjoy these reading meetups, hoping I can attend the next one
>>221599652
what about that finger clipping
Good night /vrg/. I love you all.
>>221599821
Good night!!!
>>221599821
Goodnight <3
>>221599821
Good night anon!
>>221599779
fuck you
>>221600250
"DURR HURR NOT A SLOOT"Nepbar?
>>221596319 (Cross-thread)
>>221595907 (Cross-thread)
Thanks for letting my buddy tag along! He had a great time.i swear i only made this avatar ironically
>>221597952
>removing the beauty mark
I did the cm3d2 shoulder resize fix but when I lift my hands over my head the shoulders sink down way too far.
Photobombed!
Daily Sketch Challenge #77
Today we ask the question, how many smug penguins can you fit in 1 hour of sketch? Answer is 6 smug penguins. Surprised as well. Probably due to the simple design, there are so few strokes required, the most difficult part to draw is actually the headset.
A person renowned and known in his time, not just in his mind. Smuggest of them all. But she's cute so it's alright. Sup mate, glad you came back and we continue to play and enjoy each other's company to this day.
album link: https://vrdrawanon.imgur.com
>>221600536
>i swear i only made this avatar ironically
PROTEUS Slippery Slope SOON
>>221602196
damn, that's a really cute smug penguin!
Post Pengy
>>221599418
Done reading for now, got about two thirds of the way done in 4 hours, I'll finish it off tomorrow most likely since my throat started to get sore.
>>221602887
>>221602887
double pengy
>>221597779 (OP)
>changing the OP just to put your steam group back in but not the discord you have to go to to vote
w h y
>>221602887
>>221602196
Bully.
Good NightRyder
>>221603475
>complaining about that, but then not linking the discord
w h y
>>221602301
I don't need an anime girl avatar to be proteused.
>>221603735
There aren't enough male avatar users tofuck me
>>221603735
Leo is a fuccboi. Ok point taken. Do you get your daily dose of Bara and pretty boys?
>>221603814
Okay, i'm not that far down the slope!
>>221603845
I get my daily dose of GOOD CLEAN FUN with FRIENDS
he just can't get it open
>>221601725
You shouldn't have done it if you're not using FBT.
>>221604202
>leo stalker
Oh god, when did this happen?
ANON I SAW THAT
>>221603635
>>221603635
What did anon mean by this
Breaking News:
Notorious Lewder lewds another victim.
>>221578636 (Cross-thread)
>>221581595 (Cross-thread)
Tried out technologic and Love again, plus, once more, of the 4th Jojo OP
https://streamable.com/uwhrk
https://streamable.com/si0jf
https://streamable.com/kmebu
goddamn i need great days so much more now. or roundabout, even, fuck
>>221602196
What a coincidence. That's as many penguins as he's had failed relationships in as many months.
>>221605954
Rude
>>221606093
I'm just worried for his current new victim
>>221606174
Victim?
>>221605954
Are you telling me that there is someone in vrg who's more pathetic with relationships than Arrow?
>>221606315
For not liking the guy you sure talk about him a lot
>about to order leg trackers
This is so fucking expensive
>>221606504
Don't forget to buy a Lovense toy.
>>221606504
Think long and hard if the ability to move your legs and hips is worth the price.It's really nice if that's what you want though.
>>221604804
cute couple
>>221607224
I MUST DANCE
>>221607503
New Fw is so much cuter than the abysal days. Too good for Nirvig
>>221606315
arrow doesn't know what's a relationship since he gets rejected by everyone
>>221607461
Then dance, young one.
Dance your money and cares away.
https://vocaroo.com/i/s11U0LfKeVKV
>>221607731
I did it!
The dance, it calls me!
>>221608016
It's clear we must organize a dance night then, maybe this weekend would be nice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6aSoBjwUrU
>>221597779 (OP)
Hey VR bros
Can we make 2 generals?
No for cool VR games and the other for VR Chat gay faggotry
>>221608205
Yeah sure, we'll keep the /vrg/ tag for the vrchat shit and you can make something new for other VR games since you want to split stuff instead of bothering with an autist trying to subvert a thread all so he can take the tag of /vr/ because he knows he can't make a thread live on it's own merits under a different name because there's still no fucking content. Have fun!
Speaking of leg tracking, do I need a powered hub for the dongles? Can someone recommend one to me?
>>221608465
Buy a USB PCI thingy. The bandwidth is probably too much otherwise
>>221607591
Should've known him way before that
The fucking Velcro fastener on the left side of the headset is coming off.
What product do I apply, is there a certain type of sticking agent I should use?
>>221608583
I've read that people are using the trackers just fine with hubs though. And the way my motherboard fits into my case, the slots don't line up to add the card.
>>221608912
If you aren't using all the internal usb2/3 connectors on your motherboard, you can buy a 20pin to usb A female for more ports, and just hang them out through one of your card slots.
jesus christ luvoratory is so fucking hard in beat saber
>>221604804
>>221607402
>>221609323
art.
>>221609323
God damn it! tell me who you are so that I can suck your dick for this brilliant work.
>>221609601
>>221609663
A little robot maid that appears sometimes
>>221608205
People keep trying that, mods don't seem to approve
>>221608205
What we could do is is create /vrsoc/ for all the trap orbiting and other discord drama.
tfw ywn hear his sexy moans and that smooth british accent as he whispers "oof mate" into your ear right before he cums down your VRthroat
>>221611437
t. Arrow
>>221611574
You will if you just ask him... He's really easy
>>221611574
ywn hear his sexy and smooth british voice tell you he's " oof 'bout to blow you a big one hun " before the big ben starts bonging and playing and your ear blows out from his orgasmic scream
>>221611753
Lies, Konner is pure!
>>221612153
>Konnor
>Pure
it's time to move on
>>221612153
bruh...
>>221608205
Every once in a while, someone creates a thread on /v/ for new VR game discussion and links from here to it...and it usually dies a quick death as everyone on /v/ complains about how /vrg/ are a bunch of perverted nympomaniacs and they don't want to be seen communing with them.
But keep an eye out and you can join in on the fun too!
>>221612153
oof
Anyone here get into the maplestory beta tomorrow?
>>221612532
>and it usually dies a quick death as everyone on /v/ complains about how /vrg/ are a bunch of perverted nympomaniacs and they don't want to be seen communing with them.
So what you're telling me is /v/ is retarded and unable to simply discuss videogames?
>>221612962t. Faith
>>221613393
I have never once interacted with faith, or the majority of people here, save for a handful
another case of me needing to be in bed like 4 hours, more sleep schedule killing saber. also there's a platinum disco map now! I hope there's more Monoagatari OPs in the future.
https://streamable.com/vqxj6
https://streamable.com/ucm3d
https://streamable.com/ueynh
https://streamable.com/aaw8d
https://streamable.com/k3lq6
https://streamable.com/vy4g5
>>221613349
I'm just saying that even if there was another thread about other VR games, it'd be hard to escape people complaining about /vrg/ and VRChat even within that thread. That's all.
>>221604804
I am so stupidly proud of this.
>>221614207
Cool stuff anon. What does the card effect do.
>>221614270
Crashes you
>>221614207
Closer look at the snap that summons the god's
>>221614270
Nothing yet but I plan to make the three gods fire at the sime time with particle fuckery.
>>221614207
how big is the dragon
>>221614654
About to scale I think, This is the head of it next to thaneus.
>>221614207
Put a idle animation on it so its wiggling about
>>221614795
What the fuck did you just call Thanos?
>>221616609
ya know thaneus king of the titans
>>221616609
>he's never heard of mad thad
>>221614347
love it when unity gives me a new error to try and fix when I go to upload a test thanos
>>221616609
thaneus the crazy tightan
Are there going to be interviews for mods in the public server?
>>221606174
Don't worry about me, I'm not a victim. If you have something you would like to talk to me about, feel free to approach me in game rather than trying to stir things on here.
>that 30-year-old boomer who thinks beat saber is a workout
>>221617207
Mods already were chosen. We're getting Scooter, Vikflorp, and TubTub
>>221617610
Applications, okay
>>221617589
>not wearing VR training clothes while beating the saber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ON1Pwn_p8s
Give me a quick rundown on the /vrg/mansion. Who are we supposed to submit rooms to? Are we supposed to send prefabs? How big should the filesize be, and how many materials? What kind of rooms should we make - just bedrooms, or whatever we want? I've heard it might be a hub of portals, which sounds easier.
How long should bonechains in a skirt be at max? I brought it down to 6 from 18 bones but I'm worried it will look bad with dynbones in blender.
>>221618015
https://discord.gg/2azZpY Just join the discord.
>>221602196
Thanks! I love it, it's really cute.
>>221618052
Why no post some info in the thread. I've searched the archive and there's zero info on this and the opening is a month away. Is this the /vrg/mansion or the discord dinner circle mansion?
>>221618041
Depends on the skirt, 18 bones total is fine, 18 bone chaines is too much for any skirt.
>>221616975
update your VRCSDK and mod it again then start fresh in unity
>>221603573
>>221618361
Stop nitpicking and just join the discord.
It'd be much easier to organize and communicate.
>>221618361
Uh oh, you got us
GOOD MECHA VR GAMES WHEN ANONS
>>221618760
Agree. Front Mission please.
>>221618363
Alright, I'll reduce this further! Don't wanna lag everyone with my Avatar. Maybe to 2~3 bones per individual chain.
The original model had 18 per strand.
>>221618837
You can definitely reduce that to 3 or less per chain, it looks fine when mixed. Best for optimization would be 0 dynamic bones and some weight painting instead
>>221618837
You could get it down to 8-12 bones, starting with 1 for each side - right, left, back and front then adding 1 or 2 chains, this amount with the right weightpainting it will look nice and perform better.
>>221619402
>>221619482
Not that good with blender. I juse click the bones and use cats auto merge. But when I make it smaller than 4 bones per chain the lower part of the skirt will not react anymore.
>>221618837
You could always just use that avatar when it's quiet and then when the meets get up to like 20+ people switch out to a non-dynamic bones version. That's what I usually do.
>>221619564
Since you're effectively removing bones, the vertex groups assigned to those bones aren't being used anymore. All you need to do after getting the bone number down is to weight paint it all properly - which, may I add, is a lot easier to do from scratch (assuming the skirt is simple) than mixing the existing various vertex groups, specially when the initial number was so high - the weight assigned to each bone is smaller. Mixing is doable but will take longer.
tldr: weight paint
>>221620012
idk how to do that
Is there a way to take higher quality screenshots in VR?
>>221620084
Take a look at blender documentation and tutorials on youtube.
https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/dev/sculpt_paint/painting/weight_paint/index.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl4qTgwQwYw
>>221620541
Yeah this is too complex, I will just not do any dynbones at all. The colours are all over the place on my model and nothing like the video.
>>221620754
Hey anon, I recently learned weightpainting too. It's not that hard, just look at some models that are already weight painted and try to copy. Play around with the brushes and sizes and eventually you'll find a process that works for you. All you gotta do is just go in weightpaint view and then look trough the vertex groups. If you don't know how to change the brush click the tools tab on the left side and there you will have the options.
Obviously you won't get it right the first time, but with some practice you'll get better and better.
>>221620754
>>221621329
Also here's an image of how the weightpaint for skirts should look like.
>>221620447
pls respond
>>221622430
How do you take screenshots. Do you use the camera?
>>221622430
If you just take screenshots with F12, make the desktop window of the game as high resolution as possible. In steam VR settings you can also change application resolution but not sure if that will change the screenshot quality I haven't tested yet.
>>221622587
does the vrchat camera take higher quality pictures than just using steam vr screenshot?
>>221623135
Yes by far.
>>221621932
smug af
TWO?!
here's to /vrg/ taking themselves way too seriously
>>221623849
>x-file theme plays
I hope every single one of you has a nice day, /vrg/.if anyone plays granblue good luck on the gacha
>>221618235
glad you like it smug pengy
>>221621932
god I wish that were me
are ghosts real?
Can ghosts enter VR and spook people?
>>221625573
No, don't believe those silly rumors. Those are just normal players and sometimes the game bugs out in spooky ways.
t. ghost stalking you
ded thread
>>221597779 (OP)
Hey you forgot finger guns day, 19/11, or 11/19 us-style.
>>221625573
>tfw no cute yandere ghost entering VR to fuck me
>>221626505
The thread is dead because Faith didn't post beat saber replays and Arrow didn't shitpost.
>>221626505
Eh it's not that dead
>>221626505
the discord is active again, no need to post here anymore.
>>221625573
i have a ghostfu who ocasionally joins me to spook me and send me hearts
>>221626505
didn't you hear?
we're all abandoning the thread and moving to discord :^)
>>221628083
this but unironically
>>221624683
260/300 for a spark but really want summer Jannu.
What do?
>>221626881
>using euro dating system for an all American gun
Shame on you.
>>221625573
Everyone who's used a kinect knows ghosts are real
>>221597779 (OP)
My vive arrives today, what do?
>>221629646
send back and get rift
Anyone know where i can get that portal shader or prefab? need it for autism
>>221629646
Get deluxe audio strap if you want it to be comfy.
I fucked up the thanos animation somewhere and now when he snaps he does this and not the animation. Ignore the temp music https://streamable.com/xae77
>>221628746
roll away, i did 30 rolls and got sturm, s jeanne and yuisis
most of my crewmates also have been really lucky today so i wish the best of luck to you as well anon
>>221630168
Looks fine when he is not set to humanoid I wonder what could be cuasing this.
Getting rank #1 on a beat saber map sure is a rush. Even if there's only 3 people (including me) who've finished it.
>>221630437
Fuck you. I rolled 3x 10 rolls and got 3SRs and 27 rares.
>>221632647
you gotta roll everything
reminder the thread will never be alive again if the official discord goes through
vote.
>>221631719
What difficulty? I'm assuming it'll be too much for babby me but I'll give it a go otherwise.
>>221623637
Is this the same anon who was trying to figure out how to get mia's mile long tail working right? Good to see he figured something out
>>221634081
Yeah I found a janky method to get it working. Might also be possible with rigid bodies and fixed joints outside the armature, but this is what worked.
>>221630768
Got it to work in game had to redo the animation from scratch but I also have obelisk now!
https://imgur.com/bMbsYt3
Would you fags stop acting so disgustingly lovey dovey in the middle of the meetup?! It's more sickening to see than if you just fucked each other.
Fuck off all you couples! /vrg/ is not you dating hangouts!
>>221637185
t. Arrow
>>221637185
I like it
>>221637185
Stop being butthurt because nobody wants to date you, Arrow.
>>221637185
>tfw vrcrush will never act lovely dovey with you during a meetup
Why live?
>>221637185
you could just join anon
>>221637185
Kill yourself. Stop applying your shitty real morality to virtual reality.
>>221637185
I know who you mean last night and I think they're cute together, even if a little over the top. Take your bitter envy somewhere else.
>>221637834
Kill yourself. Stop bringing your shitty normie relationships to virtual reality.
So instead of drama
Archangel just came out.VR mech game. Anyone played it? The graphics look kinda weak, I think it's a psvr port, but I'm craving mech games bad.
>>221638384
who
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>>221637185
who is responsible for making the meetups so lewd and degenerate in the last few months
it was never this bad
>>221638918
If you must have a name, look no further than pic related. Everyone falls eventually.
>>221638853
Heard it had spyware you couldn't turn off that they took out when it was found out, not sure I trust the devs.
>>221636080
Cool, I was the anon that suggested world space tail mesh particles lol. It may be janky, but it works, and what the fuck isn't janky when making stuff for vrchat?
I've yet to get into rigidbodies/joints but they can do some pretty cool and unusual stuff from what I've seen
>>221638918
>making the meetups so lewd and degenerate in the last few months
https://streamable.com/1dsgh
https://streamable.com/g3maj
>>221638918
Only NA ``official'' meet ups were 'pure'. December and early January were lewd as fuck. EU meet ups were literally orgies.It was bananers.
Can we just wordban people who say "faith" "arrow", etc? Is /SOC/ posting is shitting up the vrg thread worse than sock posting. At least /sockers/ were nice and productive and helpful.
>>221639346
Reminder that f*ith and arr*w are common words so you can't really filter them.
>>221639346
>Can we just wordban people who say "faith" "arrow", etc?
Problem is those are "common words".
And even if we wanted to, we couldn't, unless a miracle happens and the admins decide to do something.
>>221633780
No doubt you'd probably take first position if I told you, so I'll hold out, but it's only hard difficulty. Not a lot of people have played it, I guess.
>>221639016
I haven't.
What does "falling" and "proteused" actually mean?
>>221638918
The only difference is the lewd happens mostly in private rooms instead of in front of everyone because Peeping Ron and other mods are waiting to ban. Nothing wrong with normal affection in public though.
>>221606504
same. I can justify the 1080ti because it has further utility but unless you're doing dev stuff the vive trackers are LITERALLY just for thrill of the fight and vrchat.
>>221638892
Banana x Doggo looks like a thing from what I saw last night.
>>221639346
>The Z axis is the blue arrow, I have good faith that you will figure out how to use unity
What are the VRChat team's development priorities right now?
>>221640213
Blow funding on onions
>>221640213
Udon. New IK. Absolutely not performance improvements.
>>221640213
New IK and Udon
>>221639926
I'll spoonfeed you, sure.
>falling
from grace (and purity)
>proteused
science has proven playing anime girls in VR turns you into a crossdressing homosexual in real life:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proteus_effect
>>221640213
Sucking dicks and drinking monster.
>>221638918
It's the filthy EU anons who infiltrated NA meetups just to fuck everything that moves
>>221638568
>vrfu
>normal
Unironically blow your brains out
>>221640360
Thank you. So then when people say someone is proteused even without knowing whether or not they've actually become a real life crossdresser and homosexual, they're just meming?
>>221640213
You give them too much credit already by asking this
>>221640360
>science has proven playing anime girls in VR turns you into a crossdressing homosexual in real life
'wrong'. The proteus effect literally means you're more likely to act like an anime girl in the game than you would in real life.
>>221633062
don't need to roll everything when the devs just gives you what you need to finish your whale grid
>>221640606
Yes that's the definition, but the notable part of the Proteus Effect is the post-game effect where the behavioral changes persist. There's real therapy that uses that phenomenon to help patients.
WHY IS MY FUCKING VRFU OFFLINE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>221640976
who
>>221640469
Alright normalfag
>>221639016
I haven't fallen nor will I ever
>>221640360
>science has proven playing anime girls in VR turns you into a crossdressing homosexual in real life
Nah, I wasn't gay enough for my vrfu
>>221637185
Namedrop them or no balls.
https://streamable.com/fx14o
Happy Birthday Zaubervogel!
It's Weeb Saber time again.ZENBU ZENBU ZENBU ZENBU
https://streamable.com/8w69o
>>221641408
Pretty sure >>221640181
>>221607331
Sleepy boi
>>221641772
>>221640181
they just fucked, they're not a couple.
Posting Beat Sabers
https://streamable.com/psr5e
https://streamable.com/u63h7
Some of the most fun maps I've played
>>221607331
>>221625573
Ghosts are not real but demons are.
Reminder to votekick all under-18s, the meetups are too lewd for minors.
>>221641507
>ZENBU ZENBU ZENBU ZENBU
>>221640560
well yeah, but almost 50% of this general are literally gay, so it's not much of a meme
>>221641507
>tfw have the figure made based on that image
Best girl prove me wrong protip you can't
Models where
>>221641989
There are no jinn in VR
>>221640749
damn that's a 10/10 party i'm proud of you
meanwhile...
>>221641861
Rhyperior, I know you ctrl f your name. What's going on?
>>221642379
He always avatarfags retard. I'm just saying they're not a couple, bananas is still a vrthot
How do I become a NEET and not require a job to have my lifestyle needs met? I'd like to play more VRChat.
Is there an "export to MMD" plugin for COM3D2?
I'm legitimately curious how many of the people in favor of the discord only run VRC and no games. What are the odds it's a majority?
>>221640749
LUCKSHITTERS GET OUTtt
>>221642274
I really wanted a Kanbaru, but I couldn't find one. I might eventually import the Araragi and Hachikuji I found though.
More Monogatari.
https://streamable.com/k8mvf
>>221642614
Where do you live?
>>221642678
Considering the rest of the posts in this general, I'm sure you can imagine.
>>221642678
Nil
>>221642379>>221492849 (Cross-thread)
>>221642678
Only maybe half the discord fags want an official discord and they only make up maybe 30% of /vrg/.
>>221642901
Bongistan.
>anon complains about lewding circles being so closed and secretive
>lewders are transparent about it and stop lewding every night.
>anon flips shit about obvious known lewders.
You fucks I swear.
It's 2.30 in the morning but I got thanos to work and I have never felt better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHGS3pLmxDI&feature=youtu.be
>>221642667
Yes. You're after modelexportmmd_v3.dll , check the archive.
>>221644091
That's for CM3D2, does it work with COM3D2 too?
>>221640935
If anything it's had the opposite effect. I get acting like a complete faggot out of my system in VR so I can be a normal human in reality. I can't say what would have happened ten years ago when I wanted to be a girl, though.
>>221643460
Would you be okay faking/exaggerating mental illness with a clear conscience?
>>221642667
>>221644091
There's a decent tutorial on deviantart. We should pastebin it and put it in the OP
>>221643460
Be non-white or a chav who has been fraudulently claiming bennies for over a decade and they can't be bothered to deal with. There is no way you're getting them on medical grounds.
>>221643460
Konner quit posting from work
>>221644009
>that squeaker who walks up at the end and ruins the moment
Jesus this is why I don't visit public worlds
If I was to make (another) vrc world that many people would hang out in, what would you want to see in it?
My VRC kung fu powers are unlimited and likely only matched by the actual devs of the game (and maybe not even then). I'm also normally unmotivated as fuck and work full time.
I did however release a world recently that is beyond insanely well optimized (it's seriously better performing then empty cube) but it actually has interesting stuff in it.
So if you have any ideas, I'm somewhat motivated into doing something additonal
>>221644178
>COM3D2
Sorry, my mistake.
>>221644453
Bar. Good music, no mirrors.
also someone explain this: https://twitter.com/Feyris77/status/1019605079937069056
>>221645037
Voxel particles.
>>221645037
GPU shader, there's a few worlds with shaders like that now.
https://discord.gg/RmhSBRH
Reminder to join the soccercord if you want to vote on whether or not we should have an official /vrg/ discord. Vote ends on Saturday at 12am PST. We’ve only got 83 votes thus far and I know we have a lot more people here than that so get to voting.
>>221644605
>Bar. Good music,
nodnod
>no mirrors.
o.O
mirrors can be optimized by customizing the renderer in a non lazy way to not cause performance issues at all.
how about a bar with a casual mirror at every table? (but really it's one mirror with occluded bits so it looks like every booth has a nice mirror?)
>>221644009
wait your the shit hank hill? should have guessed since only one autist can like yugioh that much.
>>221645264
>>221645226
yus, we can read that in the tweet, but actually how do?
>>221644453
>I did however release a world recently that is beyond insanely well optimized (it's seriously better performing then empty cube) but it actually has interesting stuff in it.
Which world would that be? Interested to check it out.
Namedrop people who joined /vrg/ just to trophy fuck everyone
>>221645291
I don't think I'd join it, so there's no point me voting.
>>221645362
The problem with mirrors is they are automatically the center of the world's attention once they're discovered and leave the rest of the world rather wasted. Learn the lesson. No mirror.
>>221645617
I don't want to namefag myself and I'm not sure if the occlusion culled version is public yet. since unity 5.6 is a jerk and likes to crash.
It's still under "new" and has a screen. Find the portal to the test world.
>>221645534
It's not publicly known, kept hush hush by creators. All I know is it uses 6 cameras so is only visible to friends.
>>221645639
Arrow
>>221645639
highest quality noodles
>>221645746
That's why I'm suggesting several small pseudo mirrors to take away that "giant mirror" effect without there not being a mirror. Mirrors are useful for emotes and pictures.
>>221645639
(You)
>>221646117
>Mirrors are useful for emotes and pictures
We have cameras now.
>>221645658
If you’re against it, vote. If you don’t care, then I guess don’t.
>>221644453
Nepbar-style invisible pickupable chairs
>>221646101
Its time to put this eggplant out of its misery
why are all the lewders here so vanilla? smdh
>>221646025
>tfw no arrowfu with fbt to step on me
>>221646647
They're not, they just don't want to risk admitting their weirder fetishes to people who might not share them
>>221645943
No worries, I'll take a search around.
I think a map of ancient roman or greek ruins would be cool to hang out in, it'd be a lot of effort to model everything though I think
>>221646345
There's no point being against it any more.
>>221644009
said it earlier going to say it again. stop coming to meetups with your unoptimized crap and just uninstall the game
>>221646889
that's why we need another season of normiebottle to bond over our kinks and embarrassing moments
>>221645639
Johnny002. He brags about his current prey on a near daily basis. He's a disgusting creep who needs to calm the fuck down
Namedrop remaining pure anons.
>>221647051
You're right, that would be fun, I'd love to play with people.
>>221647276
Me
>>221647276
Zaubervogel
>>221647276
Me.
>>221645291
I'd vote but I don't want to join the discord just for that.
>>221647276
yuru
>>221647276
shammy
>>221647276
me too
>>221646416
easy. Wheelbarrows even that change your stance, lol.
>>221646263
This is true, maybe I'll do that.
>>221646898
Thanks, I'm already famous for other reasons but I don't get a hard-on about it to the point where it actually bothers me sometimes. Because of it, I'm often not treated like everyone else and I really just wanna hang out and shoot the shit most of the time.
>I think a map of ancient roman or greek ruins would be cool to hang out in, it'd be a lot of effort to model everything though I think
That's not a bad idea! And actually, it wouldn't be! There's archaeological scans freely available in both point cloud and vectored that I would just have to bake geometry on to make them optimized.
Greco roman 10th century bathhouse? I Could get behind that!! I'm all about comfy maps, small-ish but cozy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baths_of_Trajan
>>221647276
Me
>>221647276
Konner
>>221646647
>why are all the lewders here so vanilla? smdh
I'm not vanilla though. In fact the things I like are too degenerate to really enjoy in vrchat well or vr at all until 'we matrix now'.
>>221647640
I hope so.
>>221646647
>randomly go to public nepbar
>people soft lewding in the middle of the room
>someone even had a buttplug on
>invite portal dropped
>arrive to a weird satanic hardcore bdsm room with blood everywhere
>one guy was forced to put ice cubes up his butthole while everyone jacked off to it
I have never been the same ever since that day...
>>221647276
Livb
what in the unholy fuck is this thread
>>221613625
There's an older platinum disco that's a little more fun/difficult but don't forget Renai Circulation.
https://streamable.com/l60kv
This map is really well done, good job anon.
https://streamable.com/ierqt
>>221648012
Same for me, its still way too early in VR technology for the things I like to actually be good.
Sucks really.
>>221648195
save yourself and turn back now
>>221647276
why my pp hard
>>221647756
What about the colloseum with a bunch of prop weapons to play with?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAWTJO6oz-o
>>221647276
Arrowslash
>>221648490
This already exists
>>221648195
30 year old boomers who look like anime girls in VR engaging in high school drama and gay relationships.
>>221647051
Yeah, just in a better, more interesting world.
>>221648093
>>invite portal dropped
>>arrive to a weird satanic hardcore bdsm room with blood everywhere
>>one guy was forced to put ice cubes up his butthole while everyone jacked off to it
Sounds hot desu
>>221646101
>>221646590
>be part of vrg since the beginning just to get your vrfu
All according to keikaku my friends and nobody can stop me now heh
>>221642614
Buy about 80 rental units and live off others income.
>>221648848
keikaku THIS
houseki no kuni op
https://streamable.com/h2d3x
>>221648213
I wish there was a tagging system so all the lazy people can slap on a anime tag so it's easier to find weeb junk. I might be a weeb dork but I can't memorize all of these songs names outside of "[anime] OP#"
>>221648012
>>221648252>tfw no good vore vr sims>tfw I just want to fall asleep inside someone's vr gut and pretend i'm digesting away
>>221649090
I mean, this isn't my kinda thing but isn't there that one map where you're inside a human body?
Theres also that one miku video thats used in everything, you know the one.
>>221648012
>>221648252
>tfw intogender bending
practically vanilla in this game what am I supposed to do
>>221649245
The VRChat vore worlds are trash because they're all micro. I'm too degenerate for that.
And Miku a shit.
Does anyone know how to rip models from second life?
>>221648012
>>221648252>tfw I own a shock collar and I'm waiting for the right anon to come along and make me use it in public
>>221649512
It's literally not worth the hassle. SL models are trash.
>>221648195
Off-topic drama with occasional VR discussion.
>>221648093
Once went to an "orgy" that had a guy roleplaying as an agonizing terrified animal making deep groaning/screeching noises for 5 hours straight, while everyone around him headpatted him.
Halfway into it I realized he was also jacking off while he did this.
30 minutes in beat saber and I'm drenched in sweat
this shit is fun
>>221649620
lmao what
>>221649679
Yes...Yes...give in to theVIDEO GAMES
>>221649365
>>221649585
>>221649324
Full dive can't come soon enough, or maybe there would be a way to nigrig something that might work in VRC. Though even then I have a feeling the experience probably wouldn't be immersive enough, technology needs to hurry the fuck up.
>>221649679
just wait until you get into Expert custom beatmaps and you'll be sweating in tears and agony
So you guys ready to have even worse fps when Udon launches?
>>221629646
Play some fun VR demos, like google earth, superhot, the lab. Especially if you've never seen a vive/rift VR before, the first month or so will be magical.
Then come to the VRChat meetups and be a degenerate with the rest of us.
>>221650225
surely it can't be worse than the current trigger system?
>>221649090>tfw no good vore vr sims>tfw can't hunt and devour prey to increase my power to become the ultimate being (female)(futa)
>>221649974
We're about as far away from full-dive as current gen VR is from the first personal computers. Don't hold your breath.
>>221650284
this guy is spot on
>>221650460>tfw I can't be hunted and devoured to become part of the ultimate being
it hurts
>>221649601
Ironically the degenerates are more on topic with their talk about VR than the thread usually
a new low
>>221649620
That's legitimately hilarious what the fuck
>>221650760
Vrg is full of degenerate anyone who's not playing vrchat fucked off and post on v
>>221650760
>Discord gets unlocked
>Shitposting dies down a bit during NA work hours
Shocking
>>221650428
Didn't the dev update video say Udon is only a new more accessible SDK UI for the VRC Trigger system already in place. That's why they used the jetpacks, cars and battle disks as examples of what Udon can do.
>>221650428
Every update makes this game perform worse so it wouldn’t surprise me if Udon, which is a huge update, just tanks people’s FPS for no reason.
>>221612962
A NEW ONE?!
>>221612962
I haven't played maplestory since 2005.
What are the muscle editor settings for ok_hand?
>>221646647
I think the worst fetishes I’m into are drinking pee, being vored and being used by horny animals. Aside from that it’s standard stuff like BDSM, pet play, gang rape etc. You wouldn’t know though because I’m pure ingame.
>>221612962
It's already up and I'm playing right now.Though i cant lose joddy again, my sweet baby boy.
>>221651861
Getting the index finger and thumb to line up is way too case by case for there to be set values to list. The only answer there is to give is get muscle editor if you somehow don't yet have it, and then eyeball it
Is this a client-side bug or does eye tracking make a persons's eyes look like this to other people?
>tfw you'll never clean up the meets by turning all the shitposters into meals
Can someone post that web with all the vrg assets?
I wish I had more ideas for making streamables of. It's fun doing Beat Saber but it feels like 80% of my recorded stuff are fails so it gets frustrating sometimes.
https://streamable.com/o0f6d
Or webms, since links are too much effort to click. But even with that Webms for retard plugins I don't remember ever getting it to work. Oh well. I don't have much games to even record anyway, having only BAM, Pavlov, Onward, and VRchat, which aren't exactly good for making content of beside the latter.
>>221644453
Can you write an indepth guide to world optimization?
>>221646117
A button to spawn small local mirrors that you can position freely would be really nice for proprioception. Like a comfy cuddling map with beanbag chairs and pillows, where you don't have to hog a single mirror space.
>>221652564
I was expecting majin buu, I don't know why I was suprised
>>221649324
cute
>>221651084
I never did like the excessive lewd talk on the thread because it would remove anyone wanting to discuss other vr topics, even with a lewder discord it's still massively talked about here
>>221653462
A what.
>tfw not in the lewder discord
>>221652504
Bug.
>>221652504
Eye tracking is client-side. I get the same dumb cross-eyed look when I look at myself close in a mirror, but I look normal to others that I've asked.
>>221653026
I'd like more onward/pavlov clips. Or H3VR. Make sure you're using the up to date webm for retards https://gitgud.io/nixx/WebMConverter . Or just use ffmpeg from the command line, if you have that autism.
ffmpeg -i input.mp4 -c:v libvpx -b:v 0.5M -an output.webm
adjust the 0.5M up or down to hit a 3 megabyte output.
>>221653657
just go lewd with one of the public bicycles and ask about it
>>221652504
Crossed eyes are cute.
>vrfu hasn't been online for 11 hours
>>221653026
Can't get better without fucking up first, keep it up
I hope you all are having a great day/night, /vrg/
>>221653057
There’s a great guide to world optimization in the vrg mansion discord.
>>221655207
>tfw vrfu has lewd orbiters around 24/7 and I can't log in everyday
i wanna play vrchat not ntrchat!
https://youtu.be/rEb5Ivfr-uA
Anyone got an example of what the bones for these ears might look/be painted like? I want to copy them
>>221656126
I'd love to play ntrchat. Tfw ywn watch your vrcrushes get gangbanged by other men while talking about how much of a useless cuck you are.
>>221656686
how is that different than vrchat tho
>>221652504
Client side.
>>221656769
In vrchat they don't let me watch.
I made so very cute Avatar for the summerfestival and I hope I can show it off soon! I enjoy the meetings a lot and i am very grateful I can join.
You are all amazing.
>>221656520
Try painting in such a way as that the weight painting doesn't touch the head but ends close to the base of the ear. The reason for this would be to keep the head from warping while the ears move.
>>221656520
I'm not 100% sure but I assume it's something like this.
>>221657067
do u have a bf
>>221657529
No! But I am fine watching other people be happi.
>>221656686
Already had this experience. Had crushfu who I tried to befriend and wanted to eventually be vrfu with.
Main problem was that the person usually logs in after midnight and always lewded at 4 fucking AM so I couldn't even get closer even if I tried. I could only watch as my NEET friends bragged about lewding her every once in a while, while I became irrelevant as fuck and got cucked out every single time.decided to stop being a cuck and got a monogamous vrfu and am currently living happily ever after
https://streamable.com/usay6
First time trying to record this kind of thing, its not a hard song but I like to play it to wind down after a long session.
By the way what are you guy's settings for recording and the 3rd person camera?
I feel like mine might be alittle choppy at times and i'm not sure what to change.
>>221658373
>Living happily ever after
not for long
my world has a fucking st pepsi song playing and they think it's moon man.
Fuck these retard mods they're lucky i even give them high quality public worlds for their game.
>>221656686
just ask arrow, he's the resident cuck
>>221657379
Yes.
>>221658373
>got a monogamous vrfu and am currently living happily ever after
I'm happy for you.
>>221642614
>>221648857
instructions unclear, how to do with normie responsibilities like wife and kids and full time job -_-
>mfw favorite hobbies collides with and is deeply incompatible with social life and responsibilities.
>nevermind, wait till everyone I know is alseep and get drunk and go on vrchat.
>>221648857
By the time I've saved enough money to do that I'll be whatever the millennial equivalent of a boomer is and VR will be full dive, lol.
>>221659826
>st pepsi song
Much like Pepe, anything appropriated by the alt right is doomed to a content flag.
>>221659826
Looks like they're complaining about a picture, not the song.
>>221659492
Cute bratposter. Cool combo.
>>221651908
>mfw the only "fetish" I could be considered as having is b cups or smaller, over the knee socks, and not fat.
>mfw society and women in general has fallen so far left that girls who show a real honest desire for sex and aren't afraid to say so or be forward about it could be considered a "fetish" too.
>mfw I realize that's why vrg loves to lewd, because 95% of potential partners are total frigid bitches afraid to live a little.
No offense to the fully RL females here, cis. trans or otherwise, you're da real mvp.
>in b4 normie get out
>>221652204
Why is muscle editor preferred over just regular animating in unity?
>>221657926
are u asking me out? bc ill only ever be happi with you anon
>>221644453
lavender is already in development
>>221661794
Because it makes it 2000% easier. You'd have to separately add every single bone and change each bone value, that could take forever. Muscle Editor automatically adds the bones to the animation and it's controlled by a slider so you don't have to just enter random numbers until you find how you want the muscles to pose.
>>221653057
https://vrcat.club/threads/xiexes-lighting-tutorial-how-to-get-good-at-baked-lighting-101.2081/
best possible tutorial right here, pay close attention to the occlusion culling and batching and static mesh settings.Lighting is the main issue.
on worlds having meshes and materials not merged is fine and actually possibly preferable.
>>221653057
also I'm not xiexe just in case you got that impression. I was going to write something similar then he suddenly had that up yesterday to my surprise and to the delight of my laziness.
>>221653061
I actually really like that idea, there's a couple kotatsu maps though and lots of people spend time in puttputt sleeps, maybe one with a streaming music selection off by default.
>>221662078
t. jelly
>>221661823
Ahhh! You're cutea anon but I'm not interrested in this kinda stuff.
Daily Reminders:
>Join the soccercord if you want to vote on whether or not you want an official discord server. You can leave right after you vote: https://discord.gg/RmhSBRH
>Summer Festival is on Saturday, July 21st. Wear appropriate clothing like a yukata
>/vrg/ Mansion Grand Opening is on Friday, August 17th. You can join the discord here which has a lot of useful information about making and optimizing maps: https://discord.gg/dCeBmC
>>221661927
unfamiliar with lavender. What is now?
>>221662753
Anyone know if there are any good summer festival maps?
>>221662195
>tfw i got his jetpacks without his permission
feelsbad
>>221661794
Retards who don't know how to copy and paste and think being unable to exceed a bone position of '1' is acceptable.
>>221662896
A been in development for over a month now gsme that plans to use vrc social and worlds as a baae, with a lua scripting engine and 2nd life scriptable objects in an inventory
>>221662896
An optimized VRChat clone mixed with Garry's Mod, being made by an anon here and his roommates. Beta soon™.
we all get blocked for being a little too sexy sometimes … that’s how life is….
>>221659492
as far as recording settings I just record in mkv at 720p 60fps, hardware encoding, and medium size/quality using OBS although I have noticed on occassion that this causes some framerate drops during heavy wall sections or super high bpm tracks like the super sayain god and I'm really not sure why.
also mansion discord has been a cesspool of map making knowledge
Is there anyway to use psvr on pc without having two tvs? I have three but only one can output to 1080p.
All I want to do is look at boobs in vr
>>221653057
>>221663196
>>221663554
>>221663824
Cheers, I've put all these links in a pastebin, do you mind writing some description cause I dont know the context
https://pastebin.com/gYJBfbuQ
>>221664135
hardlights box contains a shit load lf neat things to mess with, jetdogs as well alongside some prefabs here and there for easy optimization.
heres this as well another prefab collection for wrolds https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cm2uXageuvOG13Qwdw46ck1QHARypXEK53D3EnkFOHU/edit#gid=1582720375
>>221664135
Just put it in the OP next timealong with the fucking soccer discordas something like
>Optimization Guide for Map Makers
https://pastebin.com/gYJBfbuQ
>>221646647
pee is good
>>221662078
>>221662630
jelly got caught ban evading
>>221661593
>cis, trans, or otherwise
you mean girl, retarded, or retarded, right
>>221663986
That's the only reason I'd consider joining, but I'm still pissed that they didn't even try to organize on the thread and won't discuss anything about the mansion or map making here either. It's actually taking on-topic discussion from the thread.
>>221664132
>PSVR
Nigger just do yourself a favor and buy a Rift.
>>221664994
it was brought up in the thread, you are drama mongering. ive posted my room progress here and helped plenty with maps here as well, you are just un aware.
>>221665112
But I already have the psvr right here
I know I will eventually, but I just wanted to know if there was a way so i could touch myself
>>221665140
It was brought up in the thread as "Hey does anyone want to do this?" and then when the strawpoll was done, it immediately went to Discord.
gonna liven up the thread a bit with some pics again
>>221665375
In the 7 months I've had VR I stopped using it for porn and fapping after the first week or two. Too unwieldy for my tastes. Maybe I need to get around to actually getting CM3D2 on my computer but setting shit up is a pain and anytime I look at a CM3D2 model's ass in Blender I want to cry at how terrible it looks.
>>221665658
>>221665658
This looks like someone is brandishing a penis in yuru's direction.
My meetup screenshot game has fallen off recently.
>>221666535
Fuck, it's fallen off so hard I forgot the actual picture.
>>221665658
>>221665889
>>221666070
>>221666393
>>221666685
You could at least try to make your screenshots vaguely interesting.
So it looks like Sonia is upset at a certain kemono friend again, yikes.
>>221667162
what
Some dorks discussing trigger's crimes against anime, while other stuff happens on the couch.
>>221667000
maybe you should try being more interesting then?
>>221667162
>Not liking boring selfies means you manipulate vulnerable people to take HRT for your gain
>tfw taking your vive dildo apart for the second time in under a week
>>221666070
>>221665658
I literally can't tell if these are reposts or not. That's how repetitive and shitty these are.
I want to reciprocate feelings for you, but I just can't stand to see you in male avatars. I know they're just jokes, but they kill the mood completely for me. That's why I had to say no.
>>221667673
>whips out nikei
you want dick?
>whips out Chris
how bout I pound you boy hole uwu
>>221665596
>please stop doing a project in a better format
nigger if you're this dumb never show up to the mansion project jesus christ
>>221664994
It's been discussed a ton here. Even if every single development was posted here, you wouldn't be satisfied
>>221667825
>whips out Tim
>>221667825
>whups we're lewd again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOnLL5kYOoA thread theme.
>>221668110
>>221668040
I've seen nothing but links to the Discord and maybe three screenshots, but fuck it I don't care and I'm not telling you to stop. None of this matters anyway.
>>221668256
i literally just finished posting 4 seperate world making tips and tricks, and you arent asking any questions. the threads full of shit and isnt the best place to organize the mansion project
>>221664895
Check the bans, they were deleted not banned.
>>221668110
Really I’ve seen nothing since the initial post and discord was made
>>221665760
These birds are my favorite vrc meme. Never feel forced or over done. Just a good wholesome organic meme.
>>221668390
Scroll up. And even before todag, all the way back. Just because you mentally filter it out doesn't mean it isn't discussed here. It's also discussed at meetups.
As >>221668341 points out, exclusively using the thread to organize so.ething like this is not realistic in the slightest.
>>221668359
We did it boys!
>>221668512
Love to hear. i hope birbs never die
>>221667552
They are, someone just saved them and censored the kamino's face
>>221668579
oof mate
you all forget the sacrifices that the k*monos have made for our sake
>>221668390
The mansion server itself honestly isn't that much busier, besides the usual off-topic banter.
If you or anyone else want to contribute a room without joining, just upload your unity project with your room to mixtape or wherever and post it in the thread before the deadline, and we'll try to get it in. There's no real direction or guidelines for your room besides that, other than keeping it under 100MBs and try to avoid expensive things like lots of physics props.
>>221667404
This but unironically
post top ten minion battles
>>221668579
>>221668359
I tried to save him but I wasnt strong enough.
>>221669594
You can't save someone from Weasel.
>>221668892
ill try to check each room personally for optimization as well if i can
Ashei....
>>221670125
Faith...
>>221664927
I'm surprised lewders don't use speech to text, and then automatically have that use text to speech in the other direction using something believable and modern like google's new one.
voice changers aren't realistic or open source enough most of the time
>>221670301
>tfw actually gay
>tfw get off to male voices
Happy Birthday
>>221669660
How many people has weasel lewded with by now? Surely it must be more than half the people here.
>>221670301
That's an interesting idea. i wonder what the delay would be. But a voice changer is still more realistic than TTS, even if it's not believable that it's a real voice, it's still easy to believe its a girl's voice.
Reminder to hug all kemonos!!!!
Nichijou Saber
https://streamable.com/4sgks
>>221670938
Reminder to cut their heads off
Avatar Development
https://pastebin.com/RVFPhim0
World Development
https://pastebin.com/vxNgrmhY
>>221671225
some sort of map collection here as well for meshes
http://rostracker.xyz/viewtopic.php?t=5394283
>>221670883
I saw someone using voice to text to speech in vrchat a few months ago, sounded almost believable as an emotionally dead woman until a hard to pronounce word tripped it up.
I wouldn't know where to start, though, all the text to speech programs out there seem to be cloud-based corporate solutions, not consumer products.
>>221671225
>not linking model resource too
>>221671546
post what you have. I put this together from a 2hu vrc discord I was running so all the resources were 2hu specific.
>>221671450
>all the text to speech programs out there seem to be cloud-based corporate solutions, not consumer products
It hurts
>>221670863
I've lewded with weasel like 6 times already
He sucks a mean dick, best slut to go to for a quickie every once in a while
>>221671713
models-resource dot com
>>221671721
why are you putting this in the thread
>>221668359
somebody stop this madman
>>221671450
Morphvox pro has a decent text-to-speech plugin called "text-to-voip"
>>221672361
>>221672421
even konner has a vrfu now wtf
>>221668579
So you really were a slut after all... I guess I was wrong about you... baka
Namedrop vrg couple.
>>221672280
Neat, thanks anon.
>>221673269KillxYourself
>vrg getting lewder and lewder (except all of you suck at lewding and make loud grunting noises where you sound like you’re out of breath. Especially you lil b and bananers)
>vrg getting more and more shitposted because why the fuck not lmao the thread is already fucking garbage another shitpost wont hurt right lads?
>vrg getting more and more trashy in every single way because people retreat to discord servers and there’s 14 different vrg discord servers at this point that are all huge fucking circlejerks
Honestly this general turned to shit faster than terag and ffxiv did combined
>>221673269me and you[/spoiler]
>>221672361
wtf I thought we had something special konner
>>221673472
hey i just helped some guy make better pastebins for the op
>>221673472
I hope the discord does pass and kills the thread that way vrg stagnant and eventually die
>>221673472
We're digging our own grave, just need the official discord server to go through so we can put the final nail in the coffin and kill the general forever.
>>221673472
tfw don't get to hear guys' sexy manly grunts because they mute their mics or have the sensitivity too low when they lewd me.
>>221673784
It's funny that you think it'll actually kill the thread entirely
>>221673472
I miss december/january threads. They were so fucking good
>>221673904
namedrops ruined the threads and you can't refute this
everything was better when nobody knew each other
Desktop user walks up to me and says "Oh hey, another rich person, I can tell by your hands moving. I hope you get paralyzed from the neck down"
Guy must've been unemployed and dropped out of school if he couldn't put down the minimum of $350 to get an Oculus and think that's "rich".
VR only rooms WHEN, holy shit.
>>221674108
there is one
>>221673845
God I hope so.
>>221674108
i dropped out of college and im unemployed and can buy a rift
hes probably underaged or stuck in pre adult life limbo
>>221673472
I barely come here anymore and I’m barely on vrchat either. I’ve realized that I don’t like almost any of you and that you’re all massive fucking retards that can’t act decent or friendly or make friendships that aren’t skin deep. You guys talk about trophy lewding? The bigger problem are trophy friendships. Do you ever hold conversations for 30 minutes and learn about someone else deeply and vice versa? No you stand there awkwardly and ask how the other person is doing, stutter out a response and then you move away thinking you’re the best fucking nakama in the world. I know you’re all autistic as fuck and I’m too but holy fuck how are you actually unable to imitate talking like a normal person. You do it fine in Discord funnily enough but Discord is also the place where your true colors show and it’s how I realized you’re all massive fucking grade A tards that aren’t afraid to stab your “closest” “friends” in the back if it means that you get to be in the center of the attention for once. Fuck this place and fuck y’all. I’m having more fun than ever playing other gay ass video games and getting my actual life back on track and I’m already making fucking bank and am set for life
>>221674508
oof mate
>>221674536
yo.... what the fuck...?
>>221674536
maybe if you voiced this opinions and be the change you wanted to see instead
>>221673992
Yes I can refute it because that’s complete bullshit and trivializes the fuck out of this general’s problems.
>>221674536
'kay.
>>221674536
>t. 40yo kemono boomer
>>221673784
>>221673804
If the discord passes and if I am asked to assume stewardship of it, thread revitalization is going to be built into the foundation of the server.
>>221674821
If both Hafe and Konner are gay and start lewding I’m gonna ragequit
>>221673784
It won't kill the thread, it'll just make it worse. Discordfags will still keep it around as a dumping ground for everything they don't want to attach their name to.
this comes out tomorrow by the way
https://store.steampowered.com/app/856620/V__VKatsu/
Seems like it's basically a avatar creator that you can use for VR and such. Which means Koikuties and scuffed meidos /fightan itin vr/
Yea well if the discord passes and I'M put in stewardship I'm gonna give u everyone FREE PENAL ASSETS
>>221674940
konner just went to a private world to lewd with weasel right now mate
>>221674821
tfw no hafefu
>>221675006
Nice. Hope there's options for male models
>>221674536
Reading through that doesn't hurt as much as expected, honestly. Hope you have a wonderful life, anon!
>>221675006
Yeah but can it export the models?
if i become stewardess of the discord everyone gets a blowjob
>>221675087
ITS TRUE
>>221674536
I agree but /shrug
>>221675087
so weasel just literally cucked hiina right now?
>>221675241
Yo... despacito...
>>221674536
Are you the anon that complained about others asking "How are you?"
>>221675087
>>221675241
Imagine being so big of a cunt that you tell everyone that you’re straight and then you reveal that you’re gay as hell. Konner worst friend 2018
>>221674995
thats what the threads been for months, you still haven't realised vrchat is 3d discord with vr headsets and people anonymously dumped their garbage since late january
Holy fuck even konner lewds right now
Kinda makes me a bit sick how lewd shit is getting right now
Namedrop cucked anons.
>tfw you will outlast everyone and be the only remaining purefag
Feels good
HAHA I NAME DORPPED
>>221675693
how many vr years does it take to reach wizardhood?
>tfw always treated vrchat as a social platform where I try to stop being so socially autistic and make friends
>tfw everyone’s more interested in being gayer than pride festival faggots and lewding it up at every chance they get
I’ve made one friend here since January:(
>>221675693
There is no way in hell I am ever lewding.
>>221675794
I'll be your friend in the nepbar
>>221675558
That's true, but it'll get worse if they're there's even less reason to care about the quality of the thread.
>>221675208
Possibly. It says there in the description, albeit vaguely, that it's possible. You can actually do it right now as-is with the Koikatsu game right now but it requires a lot of work.
>>221675312
weasel x hiina was a thing?
>>221675448
moshi moshi
>>221675883
why is the thread so important to you anyway
are you cumming mate
>>221676136stop moaning ya deaf cunt
>>221676021
If you have no concern for the thread, you should stop associating with the name "/vrg/". That goes for everyone that wants it to crash and burn. You don't like this place, so stop using the name.
>>221675883
At this point fuck it. If it was a few months ago I'd be heavily dead-set against a discord, but now I welcome it with open arms because at least then I don't have to wade through posts upon posts upon posts of absolute shitposting garbage. There's no saving this thread.
Can anyone give me good dynamic bone settings for breasts/hair/ass?
>>221676136
holy fuck its real!
>>221675693
I have been here since the start and watched everyone around me become more and more degenerate. I've seen so many lewd horrors.
>>221676252
why is the thread so important to you, please tell me
>>221676021
it's /vrg/. if thread dies the community is no longer a 4chan community, its just a discord circlejerk with historical roots in 4chan. only two things happen to the community from there, either the discord closes itself off to new members and stays a slowly dying circlejerk, or they're open to friends of friends, most of which won't be from 4chan, and it quickly loses any roots in chan culture that it once had, becoming yet another cancerous normie-neet abomination.
>>221675682
Me.
>>221674536
instances with >8 people are the most comfy, and there's actually room to have a conversation. I try and join on small groups whenever possible, the main group is just the same song and dance sitting on the floor surrounded by the same ugly anime girls.
This stopped being a 4chan community the second it was about vrchat
>>221676610
what does that even mean
yet another victim of the trophy lewders RIP
>>221676526
the meetups already allow in outsiders so your argument is moot, these outsiders then come to the thread
vrg is a theseus ship of randoms
>>221676610
general threads are inherently anti-chan
the number of """""""""4chan purists""""""""" who seem to have no appreciation for this is staggering
>>221676526
can't wait for vrg pride month in 2019
>>221676745
because the same threads every day that aren't generals on /v/ and /a/ are so much better
>>221675682
Arrow
>>221676803
>vrg pride month
>it just becomes heterosexual pride month because we're the minority
can't wait
>>221676803
>implying that's not every month already
>>221675693
>>221676379
Pure pact, when?
>>221676379
I'm relatively new but not only am I just not interested in lewd, but I literally cannot at this point, as I would never, ever, hear the fucking end of it. Never ever. Ever.
>>221676652
Vrchat is literally discord but people can see your awkward body language
>>221676976
and that makes it not a 4chan community how exactly?
>>221676916
Now. Meet me in the nepbar to discuss
>>221676703
in an ideal scenario the thread would act as a way to screen against the cancer because redditors and normies can't handle anonymous posting. that's why they ended up pushing discord and are trying to minimize the centrality of the thread now.
>>221676745
generals are cancer but they're not anti-chan culture. sincerely participating in what's basically a social application with distinct non anonymous identities is easily arguably though
>>221677036
the same way discords make it not a 4chan community
>>221676476
Because he can't anonymously shitpost about us in the discord
>>221677036
It goes against the idea of 4chan and It a culture. By default this general was on the losing side of faggotry
nude avatar day when
>>221677163
what about those guys who lurk the discords and then post in the thread, replying to topics?
>>221677183
Now. I already started a while ago though.
>>221677142
>>221677167
By that logic any general that plays a game together isn't a 4chan community
>>221677093
People aren't pushing discord because they "can't handle anonymous posting", it's because the posts are fucking garbage and large and wide dominate the thread and wash out the good content and good vibes like we used to have in the thread.
>>221676831
Recurring threads in any context are cancer. If faggots are having the same thread every day to the point where they're establishing identities, it's a problem and they should have been driven off in 2011 or so. The issue regarding general threads had come up repeatedly over the years, and generals were completely banned on 4chan several times but they always came back.
Eventually the problem became so bad on /v/ (largely due to league of legends being so popular and spamming the board with general threads that would cap out and sit as they went on to a new one) they realized something had to be done and /vg/ was created.
This place is literally a containment board for one of the greatest and most persistent cancers that has ever plagued the site. If you were really a hardcore purist you'd be upset about the fact that generals were allowed on the site period, but everyone who even is old enough to remember this conflict has pretty much given up. Getting snooty about 4chan purism while being a willing contributor to any general thread is beyond stupid and completely blind to the framework which you exist in.
>>221677375
Most generals dont play together in the capacity that we do. The ones that do are mmo gens
>>221677391
Generals aren't cancer. Certain game types and communities are. There are other /vg/ threads that are completely fine.
>>221677487
This
>>221677487
most mmo gens have better threads as well
>>221677375
>implying the discord didn't make the general terrible
>>221677391
Underrated post
>>221677375
So then it's because you can't handle anonymous posting?
>>221677391
Generals are a problem because they break the core self-moderation feature of 4chan, the ability to sage or ignore low-quality threads. Identity is mostly the same as it's always been. Before generals were big, each board (save perhaps for /b/) was only about the size of a general. Tripfagging was more common, and "regulars" still knew each other from IRC and would recognize one another's posts even when done anonymously.
>>221677604
Ah yes, the discord that started back in March and is still around.
>>221677391
words of truth but its still a false equivalence to suggest discord is the same as generals just because theyre both cancer. discord is more extreme cancer. at least there's a pretense of non persistent identities in generals
>>221677796
Which?
>>221677880
Not this general.
>>221677487
So are you saying that MMO generals aren't real 4chan communities?
>>221677889
The one that definitely exists and isn't a lie.
>>221677707
There's a difference between anonymous posting and shitposting. If you can't discern that, you are the problem.
>>221678047
They're /soc/ circlejerks like this general.
>>221674536
Reminds me of that one copy pasta "Hey Faggots,
My name is John, and I hate every single one of you. All of you are fat, retarded, no-lifes who spend every second of their day looking at stupid ass pictures. You are everything bad in the world. Honestly, have any of you ever gotten any pussy? I mean, I guess it's fun making fun of people because of your own insecurities, but you all take to a whole new level. This is even worse than jerking off to pictures on facebook.
Don't be a stranger. Just hit me with your best shot. I'm pretty much perfect. I was captain of the football team, and starter on my basketball team. What sports do you play, other than "jack off to naked drawn Japanese people"? I also get straight A's, and have a banging hot girlfriend (She just blew me; Shit was SO cash). You are all faggots who should just kill yourselves. Thanks for listening."
Does anyone know why my Rift 2.0 overlay desktop mode keeps closing/minimizing? It's been like this for a couple weeks.
>>221677754
What you're describing is 2005-6 era. Generals came about around 2012. The 07-12 era most boards were big enough that you wouldn't recognize anyone but the most distinct posters/tripfags.
also self-moderation was broken by moot literally banning it, generals had nothing to do with it. /v/ gave up before that (though I remember even when generals were just ME3 and Pokemon B&W people would still sagebomb the threads) but other large boards like /a/ and /jp/ still strongly enforced it up until sage was hardcoded hidden and announcing it, or doing any kind of bombing, became an enforced bannable offense.
>>221678190
Nah, I'd say the problem is more that you faggots let open the floodgates, and allowed people who have no business on 4chan into the threads. Now they bitch and moan about this or that, without ever actually learning how things work. It's baffling how retarded dal and some of the others sound when they try discussing things related to the general, or how things should be done. Vg has always been terrible, but you shouldn't go inviting people who are literally from other parts of the internet into this place, only to complain about it later like you played no part in it.
>>221677880
I agree that discord is cancer, but pandora's box is open and it can't be closed.
Ironically a lot of the people who are most vocal about being anti-discord are also the ones that were opening and joining the first wave of discords, and those are why we are here now.
>>221678338
>you wouldn't recognize anyone but the most distinct posters/tripfags
Of which there were many. That aspect of the site almost completely vanished.
>>221678483
Yeah, inviting dal, Keytar, tenacioustiger, ashei, faith, orb and johnny002 was a mistake
>>221678598
Sure but it was always a small minority of especially obnoxious tripfags and hyperautists. It didn't significantly color the discourse, which was distinctly anonymous.
>>221678598
Which is good. Tell me how many of the several tripfags back then were good in any way? Hell, one of them has been waging a war on free doujinshi for a few years now, and has shown he won't stop until fakku is the only place you can get shit, while also making it impossible to get other things because they won't distribute it. Fuck tripfags, fuck name fags and fuck avatarfags, it's all cancer and I'm glad to be mostly rid of it.
>>221678338
moot never banned it, just hid it. Sage still posts without a bump, eating post limit without bumping the thread to the front page. That mechanic is still compatible with the intended use as user moderation, but not compatible with general threads.
>>221654497
The problem with recording mp FPS is that the chance of getting a interesting clip is far outweighed by me being a really tacticool tryhard most of the time, only to die when a enemy so much as looks at me. I have to rely on the randoms to do anything entertaining which is almost as akin as streaming if you ask me. There's always playing with bots in Pav and Onward but it wouldn't feel nearly as fun, I would think. Dying stimulator content or not it make good filler posts when the thread is on lunch break and funposting, though, I suppose
>>221678805
The avatar fagging we have now is pretty much the same. Coordinated discord raids and bringing off-site drama here didn't happen, though. The first time I remember that happening was the IRC shitting up /a/ in 2011.
>>221678849
Announcing sage will get you banned. You'll get banned if you're sage bombing to hit bump/pic limit even if you'er not announcing it. It's clearly a move to ban community moderation.
On the boards with more conservative mods (eg /tg/ repeatedly) I've even gotten banned just for trolling and derailing to death clearly cancer threads too hard. to be fair, you'll get banned for saying nigger there
>>221678335
Only way to keep it open when in a steam game is to not put any panels snapped to the curved plain.
>>221674940
>>221669067
>>221679616
I'll miss the old konner
rip
>>221679252
That's the intent. You're supposed to ignore or sage low quality threads. They die if enough people agree with you and do the same thing. Single-handedly sage bombing was always an obnoxious abuse of the sage function. Community moderation does not mean that each user gets a veto on what's allowed.
How should I weight a kimono's skirt to the legs?
Unironically losing interest in Konner now. People that lewd like gay niggers are boring
Back inBlackhas a pretty good beatmap.
https://streamable.com/sa95i
>>221680247
select all, delete, throw vr headset into ravine
>>221680421
I said kimono, not Kemono
>>221680247
Follow the bananers picture except for the hip weight painting, dont even tough the hip weight painting that just over complicates it. a weight of 1.0 makes it move 1:1 with the bone
lesser weights like .9 are 90% of the bones movement so you move the sides of the skirt and have overlapping weights in the front and back
>>221680060
Community moderation was never really democratic. You'd only get 2 or 3 autists putting in the effort but it'd generally be in line with the will of the board expressed by the flyby sages. The important thing is they're cleary signalling disapproval which tells the newfags "this is cancer". When saying that is banned, they think its ok and when they're lurking to assimilate they pick up the bad habits of other newfags, assimilating that as if its the actual culture of the board, which they'll then perpetuate so that the cancer becomes terminal. they eliminated the most important element of community moderation and let cancer have free game to do what they want to every board, the only option you have left is to put up with it or exit, fighting back is banned and everyone already gave up like more than half a decade ago anyway.
ironically it seems like most of the oldfags whove ditched 4chan completely have ended up on discord.
>>221680457
oh fuck do I have ptsd lmao
It should be the same as a short skirt, just more work.
>>221680802
fuck off bananers take your testosterone replacement you absolute manlet
>>221680940
i'm not that waste of oxygen 40 year old virgin kill yourself
>>221680641
>>221680802
Thanks lads! I'll do my best
>>221680802
the hip weight painting is not needed and makes it harder to paint the legs, you need to update your method
>>221680940
>>221681070
>tfw a 38 year old fat ugly manlet from bronx bought a stripper pole, uses a voice changer and has visual sex with other ugly men online
kek
>>221681115
i didn't make this picture i simply searched the archive for it
why don't you update it for the good of the people?
>>221681195
Has this been confirmed
>>221681195
I know right? and he has the audacity to sperg out whenever he sees anything remotely resembling a furry. really makes you think. also i don't think he's from the bronx, he just talks like a nigger.
>>221681317
because the last time i tried making a weight painting picture it turned out worse and every skirt is different anyway, just have the red parts on the side and ignore the hip weight painting
>>221681407
Are there any literal niggers in vrg?
>>221681537
Bananers and Negativz
>>221681537
>>221681742
Yuru too
>>221681407
>hates furries
>is a pedophile
really makes one ponder
>>221681974
nah man he doesn't lewd with his toddler avatar, only with his kindergardener one
>>221679528
But my desktop is there and that's it. What do?
Namedrop attentionwhores
>>221682129
ME
>>221676703
Except most of the randoms eat shit if they don't get dug in quickly
Random randoms more often then not get left out or straight up kicked/crashed
and that's the way it should be
>>221681881
i have a job
>>221682368
wonder how long it'd take for new attention whores to rise up if this whole list got permabanned with no possibility of evasion
>>221681742
Nanners is a slav
>>221682548
It's funny how quiet the meetups get when you mute Mina and his dumb little orbiter
>>221682548
>>221682368
A bulk of that list doesn't even play anymore
>>221600536
Who is this slut and how many of those can she chug?
>>221682398
except 50% of vrg is randoms now
>>221678743
But Orb is more chan than most of the meetup
Looks like Jelly woke up. That was a short long nap. Guy's been working hard lately.
>>221682643
What? They all play still
>>221682368
>kafu
miina isnt even loud
>>221682663
It is really weird coming back to a meetup after being gone for a week and not knowing half the people present.
>>221682746
Jelly wakes up and Arrow got unbanned so he can shitpost more about his retardedly fucking awful life
>>221682791
>kapfu
>>221682783
Just let him live in his little world.
It's probably nicer there for him.
>>221638853
It's fun, not the most nuanced mech game but certainly the best for VR
>>221682742
He came to 4chan during the elections and originally only browsed /pol/
>>221678743
>tfw ywn know how tenacioustiger is like
>>221682857
If his world is missing all those people I gotta say I'm pretty jealous
>>221682742
Orb is the chaotic asshole parody that Reddit and Tumblr think is 4chan.
>>221682847
reminder arrow gets so mad from internet comments that he feels the need to punch holes in his walls and scream at his parents taking care of his ugly ass. so be nice to the french tranny or he will sperg~
>>221682937
explains alot
>>221682823
I don't like going to meetups anymore, too many randoms. But all my friends do so it's either go or be alone.
>>221682663
we could have prevented this
>>221682368
Rate them from best to worst
>>221682957
Well there's an easy way to make that happen.
You can leave.
>>221683060
I'm lucky the friends I've made at meetups avoid meetups now.
>>221682957
You can block them, but people will start noticing that you sometimes talk over each other and you never acknowledge them and they'll figure it out. This has happened to me twice, apparently it's a cardinal sin to block other members of /vrg/,
>>221682653
>she
>>221682937
No I didn't, I literally just said like two days ago I've been here for 7 years
I browsed pol during the elections, but had been doing that for literally 3 years prior already
>>221683113
I don't hang around you niggers.
>>221683218
Well then why are you here?
>>221683178
>wtf you know that's a dude right?!
pls go back to a public Hub instance
>>221681742
rip my homie negativz
>>221683305
>he
>>221683305
Calling you fags out for calling dudes she =/= "lol u know thats a voice changer rite"
Reminder:
VRChat devs have no idea what they're doing and so the people whomst have you blocked is public information
http://piper.moe/blockalyzer.html
I just want friends.
>attention whore
Stop making meetups fun! Sit in the corner and have quiet one on one conversations only!
>>221683261
Because I play VRChat and VR games? Thanks for confirming the issue with you fuckers. You think everything revolves around you.
>>221683415
Good.
>>221682965
donut b urself >:(
>>221683518
good for you and me, but still an ethical issue
>>221683171
>>221683415
if your list of people who've blocked you isnt a hitlist of all the newfags and cancer present in /vrg/ youre not doing it right
>>221682412
Please, don't steal my water melons again or I will sue you
>>221683415
Emiyuh
Nermal
GreatKhanHD
Famou5ivan
Eclipse 7022
Darin
Maestro_One f363
NOIRBLACK. eeb3
元気出してcxrnivallさん(ホタルんの弟子が) 8edc
Jina
VritraAskook
ParalyzedBiscuit
Yobillster
cindy_kitkat12
Xx-Woods-xX
Zanda
Papillon-K
MURA_SAKI
Takeru@airgreennet
ankoro
harada1616
yum-yum-jam
FoxCafe
Swinchung
And people in the thread talk about how they definitely blocked me lmao
We need to revitalize the purity movement.
>>221683647
whoops how did that get into my name field
>>221683754
Who are you?
>>221683647
Holy shit the general has formed it's own consciousness
Maybe ill make an updated weight painting guide
>>221683754
>>221683790
you're trying to make the new thread as early as possible so you can push whatever changes you want but you're retarded and you don't know the difference between the subject and the name field
>>221683515
And thank you for confirming that you don't really have any basis for complaining about groups you don't interact with.
>>221683760I am incredibly gay irl and own multiple anal toys but I feel like I’m the only one not interested in lewding in vrchat...
>>221683028
hey, fuck off. /pol/ is my home
>>221683647
Nice trip jdalt
>>221684023
I spent 6 months of my life with you people.
>>221683920
ya I think I left it in the name field when I was drafting it
just intended to include the two new pastebins
>VRC Avatar Development
https://pastebin.com/RVFPhim0
>VRC World Development
https://pastebin.com/vxNgrmhY
>>221683415
baxtercollin23 0233
The_Doc71
JazzJazzington
babakumbe 9bf4
Pistachio Ice Cream
ShadowShadow
Siena_The_Demon 6643
i don't even know who any of these people are wtf
>>221684125
if you're going to make the OP, please remember to put the soccer discord in there.
whether you're pro or anti discord, we need as many people to vote as possible
>>221684108
come back
>>221683415
I just realised I've been installing Windows onto my HDD not my new ssd
>>221683415
>no one has blocked me yet
>>221684309
who is line 292
>>221684309
dot?
>>221684315
baka rely
>>221684437
some eu shitter i think
Well I have no qualms with being blocked by these people.
Mainly because I have no idea who they are.
>>221684276
No
>>221684465
Guess I should USB Rufus instead of mounting, it's late for the person I wanna hang with too
Is there any difference in performance between having one dynamic script bone with 4 bones and 2 dynamic bone scripts with 2 bones each?
This thread STILL revolves around VRChat after how many months? Just how much longevity can a glorified 3D IRC client have?
>>221682368
>not on the list
FUCK I just want to be shitposted about once. Just fucking once
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>>221684740 (Cross-thread)
>>221684740 (Cross-thread)
New thread
>>221684125
>>221684234
This, please add this to the next OP for the vote: https://discord.gg/RmhSBRH
>>221684437
>>221684510
he lives in US iirc. He deleted everyone and is taking a break from /vrg/ and VRChat though. Don't know it's permanent or not however.
>>221683415
Tundra485b
Toshio
cakeychan
CyberneticFool
Tom1998DE
Carrick
Sergeant.Jaw 767c
Blicridd
BlubbyBlubz
Cam^~^
Jereemo
Emmaterasu
HANZOSHlMADA
sunak0
Wolfboye
Karkat
rubjellyonme
>only one person from the thread has me blocked
>irrelevant anyways
>>221684791
two
>>221684897
Three actually. Jelly the schizo, snakior, and cakey the tranny
>>221684741
A surprising amount. I don't really understand how desktoppers can do it, but even kludgy first-gen VR tech makes this shitty anime IRC client incredibly compelling, even ignoring the whole world/avatar customization and creation 3d modeling aspect.
>>221684897
three
>>221683415
I wonder who Carrick is. He's blocked a few other people here it seems.
>>221684791
If I blocked you, you must be a huge nigger
>>221685004
>snakior, and cakey
literally who?
>>221685072
A lot of us are blocked by the same people most likely due to public raid hopping.
>>221685121
Cakey#6745 - lewd mute tranny, comes to meetups
snakior-an okay guy
>>221685121
cakey is an autistic tranny that comes to meetups to hunt for someone to lewd
>>221683415
Shield 279a
Eclipse 7022
Darin
Blek
BrookeGamingYoutube
baxtercollin23 0233
JazzJazzington
The_Doc71
Pistachio Ice Cream
Orzia
digtaka
Hacka Doll No.1
burgundywax
KASAGI
Toukev
_SyLVEon_
Archantos
kiri
etiolate
Raphelee
codel1417
RainbowUnicorn69
>ayy lmao
>>221685680
>>221685827
Literal whos then. Thanks
>>221684045
I prefer k desu, the cancer is contained in akg and arg
t. orb in case of confusion
>>221659826
what the fuck, how does it violate tos
did you hear anything from the mods
i love saint pepsi
>>221659826
>please remove image
>song
I think it is YOU who might be the retard
>>221689896
I love this song and this video. Fuck the mods for shitting on Saint Pepsi and McDonald's.