/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #401

first for ProTube > virtual stock

deal with it, sour grapes

>>236033273 (Cross-thread)
it sucks ass in h3vr and I would assume so BAM, its only useful in onward which is a ded game

>>236033583 (Cross-thread)
its easier to use sights if you have shakey hands while still being able to use grenades. with stock you're stunting yourself because you will not be able to use those at all and its a pain planting the bomb, and sometimes defusing it,

>>236033907
Second for virtual stock > GoyTube

Deal with it, buyer's remorse

>>236033907
how do the stock cucks change their mags?

Reminder that the butterfly uses no stock at all.

>>236034018
>>236034048
t. never used a stock

>>236034273
i used a stock for a while and went back to vstock because I wanted to use grenades again in pavlov. it turns you into a terminator in onward, and it works there for 2 reasons; grenades are worthless there and the there's isnt wack recoil like in pavlov so it helps out a ton. I tried it recently with h3vr and it was so damn awkward with a stock though, it was only 30$ so I don't particularly mind.

>>236034273
Gee I wonder why am asking about changing the mags then or reloading revolver.

>>236034641
You're not meant to use the stock with a revolver.

>>236034607
what is this nonsense about not being able to use grenades? you very obviously can use grenades unless you are using some DIY piece of shit. same with h3vr, protube can easily mimic any gun there.

>>236034641
cause your question is retarded

you don't use stocks for handguns/revolvers and stocks don't interfere at all with magazines and reloading

>>236033705 (Cross-thread)
>>236033812 (Cross-thread)

Oh my bad, I googled Virtual Stock and there's a company with basically that name so I assumed they meant their product.

What does it do in Pavlov, just give you a steadier aim?

>>236034048

I think with the ProTube you can pull out the controller pretty easily. They sell a magnetic cup now that should make it pretty easy to use other stuff I imagine. I don't know for sure though, I don't have one and I haven't got my VR sea legs good enough for me to play much Pavlov.

>>236034607
This is why you get a magtube. Magazines and grenades are not a problem if you can just yank the controller off easily.

>>236032465 (Cross-thread)
You're gonna wreck so much shit. There's always a clear gulf between stock users and nonstock. There's a dude I always dunked on in Contractors. He bought a stock, now I have severe problems against him.
vstock is big gay.


>>236032918 (Cross-thread)
I mean the demo of the tech was pretty clear. There's a massive gulf of visual quality between raytraced and non-raytraced. Reflections are literally perfect. And again, AMD is creating their own solution to it so it's not like it's not going to be available. It'll be up to developers to use it, but I think as long as unity gets a raytracting plugin I think it'll be popular. I'm 95% sure Mechwarrior 5 is UDK anyway, so RTX support is already going to be there for people familiar with UDK (a shitload).

>>236035183
>clear gulf between stock users and nonstock
I said before, some of the best players in /vrg/ don't use a stock.

>>236035039
it basically locks the stock to the approximate location of where your shoulder should be irl

it doesn't really work well at all, but it helps if you're a spastic who cant stop shaking

>>236035320
good for them?

>>236035320
>I said before, some of the best players in /vrg/ don't use a stock.
This doesn't mean what you think it means.

I swear the sabers are shorter with the new Beat Saber update.

Don't fall for the stock meme. You'll do fine without it just practice practice practice!

>>236035183

Yeah, but the 2080 TI hits 45 frames per second with RTX on. A 3080 TI is not going to have double the performance and so it won't be something that really impacts VR. Pretty much the only stuff you can see RTX is Nvidia's demos and Battlefield V which hasn't been very impressive to me. Reflections aren't a huge visual boon compared to things like higher grade textures and increases to polygons on screen. Most lighting and reflections can be effectively tricked to look really good and greater benefits could be had from resources being spent elsewhere.

>>236035797

Most of the updates are getting reverted based on their dev's post on Medium.

Anyone who says "don't use a stock" is an illiterate noguns
GET A FUCKING STOCK

>>236035807
It only helps with bringing up the gun quickly, while hindering everything else.

>>236036271
>>236035797

Also if you have it on Steam you can revert to the old version.

>>236036347
So it helps you with the one thing that matters in a gunfight, great.
You also have a far more stable view through magnified optics, shots at a distance are much easier.

>>236036271
The updates weren't even bad really, just that the game is already so established that really changing anything like they did causes major problems.

>>236036561

Yeah, I could definitely see that being the case. I actually haven't played the update and only got Beat Saber a bit before the update. I'm pretty weak at rhythm games but my girlfriend is great at them. She's also a drummer so Beat Saber is right up her alley. I'll see what she thinks about the update in the morning.

>>236036526
The gun should already be up. Optics are a meme that you can either use or not, and there doesn't seem to be any learning to use them if you can not already.

>>236034245
A lot don't, jelly doesn't jazkaz does

>>236036935
I don't use mine anymore.

>>236036935
Unless I'm mistaken, Jazkaz is: >>236034607

>>236036789
>The gun should already be up.
It won't be on target. Target acquisition time is king here, and .1 second can get you killed. THis is the thing that people don't realize about competitive shooting; winning and 5th place can be separated by .08 seconds. In a VR shootout, the same thing applies. It doesn't matter that you got your gun up and on target in .95 seconds. He got his up in .92. You lose.

>Been working on the same map for a week now
>Keep redoing it
Shinitai

>>236020887 (Cross-thread)
newfag

I realize this is a weird thing to be autistic about but
HTC what the fuck man
You're the only company I've ever come across that has ALL micro-USB ports upside down.
THE NARROW PART IS THE TOP.
you fuckin weirdos

>>236037247
If I wanted to tryhard I'd buy nothing but AKs. Buusta frequently tops the scoreboard with a 200+ ms disadvantage.

>>236034607
Vstocks are limiting to the skill cieling

>>236036935
>people call jelly a retard
>watched him beat the butterfly the other day
lads?

>>236037039
Vstocks count

>twintails
>flat chest
What else is needed for peak performance?

>>236038992
a penis :^)

>>236038992
Peaches

>>236038320
Jelly is a target solely because he is easy to bait. He hasn't done anything particularly bad, and what he has done was under continual provocation. At worst he argues over dumb shit. There are some genuine bullies in /vrg/.

Are there in game tutorials for Pavlov? What I did showed me how to move around and load a magazine but it didn't tell me about reloading, grenades, swapping weapons etc.

>>236039725
Everything you need to practice is in the lobby/main room

>>236039725
No tutorials in-game, but it's easy enough to google, or just ask somebody to explain it to you in-game.

remembering the baby jesus beatdown

>>236039294
I like you spoiler because you know you're full of shit.

>>236040113
t. Bully

>>236040312
the only bully in /vrg/ is twonukes, who loves making fun of us. anyone who says its just bantz is just too retarded to catch on.

>>236040312
Jelly isn’t a bully target, he’s literally the bully. It just backfired on him and the community rose up against him. There’s a reason why the only people who like him are naive newfags who buy into his victim card bullshit. He is a piece of shit and is incredibly toxic to the community. He has attacked people for doing nothing. He even exposed drawanon by posting PMs of him admitting who he was. He got way too many passes over the year just because he’s retarded. It’s time for some accountability.

>>236038992
a big floofy sweater, not some shitty virginkiller either, that's less floof

>>236040740
Nukes is actually a bro. He’s not malicious and he’s not trying to manipulate people to fuck them over. Plenty of people like Nukes. You just have to not be a thin skinned sissyboy who dishes it out more than anyone but can’t handle it when people dish it out to him, like Jelly.

>>236040887
Did their autism get cured?

>>236041124
...nah

>>236041180
An asshole without autism is still an asshole
See: Black Manta

>>236040113
I've never seen him do anything awful, and only heard others anonymously make claims about it. I have seen the opposite of some intentionally starting shit for no reason, so I'm inclined to believe it is bullying.
>>236040740
Nukes actually being a bully is true. He only comes here because he thinks he's superior to us. His bullying attempts are actually pretty bad, though.

>>236040887
>he exposed draw anon

Wooww what a bully! I bet that's all their is to the story too! Clearly yuki is 100% free from mistakes and jelly is EVIL because he said yuki is draw anon

>nukes isn't a bully
>jelly is
HAHAHA HAHA HAHA
oh wait, they're serious EVEN FUNNIER HAHAHAHA

>>236041437
Lots of Jelly samefagging tonight. You can keep trying to manipulate the newfags, but you’ll just fuck them over eventually. Keep acting like you do no wrong, scumbag.

>>236041353
Imagine pretending to be a newfag to stick up for a dumpster fire like jelly
I agree with nukes being a piece of shit, though. Dunno who wants to hang out with someone who does nothing but talk shit in the most uncreative ways.

>>236041437
>a sperg who lashes out at everyone, has been shitposting for a year and has burnt bridges with more than half of the community
>a genuine nice guy who just wanted to anonymously draw the community
I wonder who I should believe. We need Nukes back, he’s great bully deterrent.

>>236041437
I don't have a dog in this fight but outing drawanon was really a bitch move. He was so nice to you in his drawing of you, too.

Some of us never got drawings of our own and you spat on his face after he gave you such a nice drawing.

>>236039294
Looking at
>>236040113
>>236040887
>>236041124
>>236041338
>>236041487

Im inclined to believe you, I cant believe people think nukes isn't a bully but jelly is

>jelly's a retard
>kite's a rapebaby
>we have drug addicts as well
Why does this place attract the gutter trash of society

>>236041653
>>236041353
>>236041313
>>236040740
Report these samefag posts for ban evading. This retard was perma banned from 4chan for a reason. Don’t forget to report him ingame for nude loli avatars too.

>>236042167
4channel

>>236042167
The nice people don't post here. Same for the discord.
The best people are the ones you don't hear about.

>>236041896
>Half truths
>jellys side nowhere to be found
you have to be brain dead to not realize there was behind the scenes drama

>>236042351
Jelly's side is literally
>you stole muh not-gf

responding to bait is fun

>>236041967
There's clearly more to the story
>>236042431
Not saying what he did was justified, but that's a reason

>>236041967
It just shows how much of a scumbag Jelly is. He brings nothing positive to the community and all he does is lash out on genuinely good people. Drawanon did nothing to Jelly. Jelly just had a grudge because Livb left him and got together with drawanon. We’ve dealt with this retard for a year. No one was left on his side for a reason. I guess the newfags just need to get burnt before they learn that this fucker is not redeemable.

>>236042585
https://youtu.be/Nz0b4STz1lo

>all this edrama

NO ONE FUCKING CARES
>>>/soc/

>>236042589
It's still fucking retarded and petty, so your point still doesn't stand. Regardless of whether someone gave the reason, he's still not justified in acting like a nigger and chimping out every 5 seconds because his roommate didn't fold his kneesocks correctly.

>>236042703
based

>>236042589
Jelly was literally just sperging because Yuki is with his ex-boyfriend. Yuki didn’t do shit to that retard. Most people who he fucked over didn’t do shit to him. He’s toxic.

Anyone have recommended tutorials for using Medium? The in app tutorial is awful and there's no good way to do rewinding in it.

What experiences have you guys had since having VR for quite a while that have reminded you it was worth it and made you smile?

Nothing from when you first got it please, just recent reminders~

>>236039294
Being someone that breeds in being namedrop already makes him shit. Stews in drama and likes to argue shit and antagonize people while playing up his victim card and even setting up situations so he looks like a victim. All in an attempt to manipulate people into doing what he wants or not wants.
He's a piece of shit. Honestly it would be great if the name and discussions about said piece of shit just gets auto-deleted somehow. And that includes this post.

>>236037848
Maybe you are looking at it wrong. What if the way you are placing your tracker is down-side up?

Stop namedropping me______ fags

>>236043146

I only just got it.

>>236043146
it helped me get a bf that i met up offline a couple months ago and it was a great experience

>>236043146
Someone made a lewd gesture so I shot myself in the head and they laughed

>>236043323
Same for the Vive Wands though. Good luck explaining that one.

>>236043163
I blame angry autists like you, honestly

>>236038992
Ability to transform. Magical girl transformation animation.

>>236040079
Kek.

>>236043146

I was showing someone the First Contact Oculus demo and there's a part where they let butterflies land on their finger and then they have to pick up a cartridge. They went to pick up the cartridge, realized the butterfly was still on their finger and lifted it up and shook it a bit to make the butterfly fly away before they picked it up.

I thought this was an incredibly subtle action to take that wouldn't have been done if it wasn't such an immersive scenario where they really felt like it was there.

>>236043520
>Magical girl transformation animation.
With theme music

>>236042847
And suddenly the entire jelly defense squad is gone. Almost as if they never existed to begin with.

>>236043121
There's the official tutorials
https://www.oculus.com/medium/learn/

>>236043146
Got drunk, stayed up all night with friends telling dumb stories. We were all in tears.
Can't wait to do it again.

Tonight's screenshots!
Mitty powered up.

>anon praises voldemort for pavlov skills
>shitposters show up en masse
>they blame him
lolwat

>>236039181
God I miss peach-chan...

>>236043778

Ah, these look way better than the one in the app. Having it broken down like this should be helpful. Thanks!

>>236040740
A bunch of people do much worse than nukes, but he does it out in the open so easily butthurt fags won't get over it. You call him the only one, as if you're covering up for the others.

>>236040887
>toxic
>accountability
Get a load of these buzzwords. And you're the guy who reposts your drama every day.

>>236042241
If the jellyhater wants to ban nude loli avatars, that's proof Jelly was right. Fuck off back to your censorship-ridden hellhole.

Rance visited! He harassed all the anime girls.

>>236043502
When there are a lot of different people from different groups are angry on a single person it would be a disservice to not be wary at least on approaching and interacting with said person.
I can't change some anon's mind but for those that wishes to hear it out hopefully they appreciate the warning and thus be able to avoid any losses or break of trust or worse.
A fair warning. Thread lightly and do not give trust. Protect your pure hearts anons and interact at arms length.
Gonna go and talk about VR discussions for the rest of the thread as usual now.

>>236043880
>tfw you never got to lick their chest while they pet your head and called you a good boy

>>236043956
Free the lolis

>>236044020
>while they pet your head and called you a good boy
Anon that's pretty fucking gay

>>236043778

God I hate video players that only have a sound on/sound off option.

>>236044010
Namedrop yourself so I can avoid you

Rance is great. We got along swimmingly.

>>236043956
Jelly admits to reporting posts he doesn’t like constantly. What’s the retard right about? It’s not censorship to get rid of the shit. It’s merely a matter of cleaning up so it doesn’t smell so bad.

>>236044005
This was a long time coming. What took so long for a Rance model to get uploaded?

>>236044138
The good boy part is going to far, but I still want headpats fuck

>>236044282
I’ll tell you mine if you tell me yours. But you won’t, because you’re just jelly samefagging :^)

>>236044383
You say jellys name more than your own

>>236043146
Chasing an R8 and a GT-R through the canyons in Assetto Corsa recently was pretty great.

>>236044463
>The good boy part is going to far
For you

Just go to Nepbar and have sweaty hatesex already

>>236044383
He's right about the fact that the most important thing in VR is nude loli avatars. If VRChat added a few as default avatars, a lot of problems would be solved.

>>236044531
The last time this happened they got shitposted because you're a bully!

>tfw anon will never cuddle you to sleep
Existence is pain

>nukes is a bully because he hurt jelly’s feelings
>jelly is an innocent victim and drawanon somehow deserved to be exposed
The samefagging is strong tonight. Get some balls you pathetic little retard.

>>236043354
stop avatarfagging

>>236043668
just Jelly samefaging. He got banned again. give him some time until he finds a new IP and the Jelly defense "squad" will show up again

Rance doing...wow

>>236044438
He's had a model forever, I saw him back when I first started.
fun fact: I almost chose to be Rance rather than Umikaze because I thought being a female avatar might have been dangerous. How different things would have been if I'd gone that route.

>>236045189
>There's a timeline where proteus alpha chad Rance Yuru is fucking his entire /vrg/ harem nonstop

>>236045261
You just vagueposted.

>>236043146
I've had a lot and I keep having more. Most of them are to do with FBT.

>>236045189
You'll never live in a timeline where swarms of anime girls with man voices compete to give Rance totally not gay blowjobs in every meetup while calling him Daddy.

I have a problem with Skyrim VR on Oculus Rift.

When I started playing, after a few minutes on the tutorial I started getting graphical freezes, and the frame that was frozen was off-center, as in I could see a black box and everything snapped to the left for example. This didn't happen on the desktop monitor render, only on the VR headset screens. It snapped left and right, glitching and brainfucking me, while the sound continued as normal.

I restarted, and it put me at the end of the tutorial, so I started a new game. No mods, so I did the cart entrance, and when we entered town it happened again. Its hard to explain, but it looks like the special effects from some B tier sci-fi film when the character is getting a flashback or something. I waited a few minutes, it doesn't stop, and never fixes itself.

I have 8GB of RAM, 4GB of VRAM, and an i7 CPU. While this glitch isn't going on, performance is fine, and the resource monitor looks okay. When the glitch happens, my CPU spikes, even though there is nothing obvious that should be computing at the time. First try was on default settings, second on low, with dynamic resolution off.

Any ideas?

We went to an academy world!

>>236045176
Uwutmate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYz73W_dufc
me playing Eleven

Prinz group photo!
And my last screenshot.

>>236045489
>>236045328
upon further review, I think that timeline is probably weirder than this one. I think I made the right choice.

>>236045489
>Introduces newfags to the meetups by raping them on the spot

>>236045891
Better than public spit roast as the first scene upon entering a world

>>236045634
t. creepy gay kid who was retarded enough to get himself permabanned from 4chan

>>236046048
Nou

>>236044463
>>236044638
You can have headpats, but only if you eat ALL of your peaches.

>>236045572

Skyrim in 2D is buggy it wouldn't surprise me if there were issues in the 3D version as well. I'd install the Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch VR and see if that clears up your issue.

How are you launching the game? I saw a thread where they were launching through Steam VR and then Skyrim VR and had to enable "Enable Always-on Reprojection" in Steam VR. I'm not sure exactly what that is though so I'd try the patch first. I guess you could try enabling that while waiting for it to download.

>>236046048
Another guy took my Internet boyfriend from me, I better expose them for being a nice guy who is doing something good for the community. That will teach him.

>>236046247
Ok but what about chest licking

>>236046247
What about feet licking while being called a good boy?

>>236046438
>we
>exile

>>236046438
You can't exile yourself

>>236046565
Wouldn’t be hard to votekick him on sight if the right people did it.

>>236046604

Sure you can! It's called being a dissociative hermit

>>236046640
Interesting

>>236046640
You're one raging autistic cunt, ain't ya

Reminder to votekick jelly on sight

>>236044651
God I wish that was me.
Maybe it will be. I am already drinking.

>>236047725
What if we went one thread without talking about VRChat?

>>236048003
Then it would 404.

>>236047826
Can we vote kick you instead

>>236047964
>tfw alone in nepbar right now

Kite, jelly, nukes, why not dot?

Hey what other VR porn games are out there? Any ones worth gettting into?

>>236047725
Namedrops in general are cancer and should be avoided unless you've got a valid reason.

>>236048952
Doesn't matter. I can't really say I like the guy, but you're just making the thread worse.

>>236048393
Tupper is in these threads and he can see you are just bullying the kid.
>>236048257
It's never going to happen. You can't "purge" autists like jelly from the community through shitposts you just make them worse at the cost of guaranteed shitting up the thread every time you do it.
The shitposter shitposting on behalf of Yuki/Livb/drawanon drama needs to stop you don't do any damage to jelly most people here just think "well that was your fault for getting so close to a jelly-tier autist". We shouldn't have to put up with it.
Spray and Pray needs to stop shitposting about made up pavlov bullshit.
Jelly needs stop taking the bait still.
The opportunistic shitposters who jump on whoever is being namedrop shitposted and exploit the fact that there's multiple people shitposting an easy target and then pile on in need to straight up neck themselves.
>>236048783
There is no valid reason to namedrop jelly or anyone else especially not over erp bullshit.

Its been 1 year since i played vrchat, thank you all for making me have a great time even tho i was an annoying little cunt

Any advice for getting better with motion sickness? I don't get it really badly where I curl up in a ball or throw up but I did get a headache after like half an hour or more of Lone Echo. All that zero g movement was a bit trippy. Do I just need to keep playing?

Is jelly being gangstalked by glow in the dark niggers?

>>236048720
CM3D2 is best one right now.
Virtamate is a mechanical wonder but needs Anime model integration asap.

>>236049903
Do the exact opposite.

>>236049903
You should stop when you start to feel uneasy as it will only get worse over time. VR sickness isn't something you can just power through because if you do that it'll persist for hours afterward.
The only real solution is to keep persisting it's like getting on a boat, it just takes a while to get your "vr legs". Try some more comfortable games at first and you'll eventually increase your tolerance.

>>236049903
Deep breathing/manual breathing you are now breathing manually.

Good night /vrg/. I love you all.

>>236050516
>>236050471
>>236049968

Sorry that was unclear, I didn't mean keep playing through the nausea but I mean just continue to play for a bit each day and eventually I'll build up a tolerance. I definitely don't want to keep pushing it and get really sick.

>>236045485
Do you use other "peripherals" aside from your fbt and headset to be able to reach the climax of this experience?

>>236050896
nope and it's not what you're thinking

>>236049903
Don't play to the point of puking. But do keep playing on the daily wherein you reach the point of nausea for a bit. You should notice you can take a little bit more time before hitting nausea day by day.

>>236051006

This is my plan. I want to get to playing Echo Combat and live out my Ender's Game fantasies.

I like Jello! He always nice.

>>236051006
Or you can tape a pair of vibrators behind your ears

>>236049903
Did you see the posts on it in the last couple threads? The usual tactic is to play a little bit every day to build tolerance but without getting to the point where you'd start associating vr with sickness.

>>236051686

Nah, I haven't been able to follow the threads for the past couple days as I got very busy with work. I'm a freelancer so when it comes I have to take it and do my best to turn it around quickly. I'll scroll through them later for some additional info but I think playing a bit each day is my plan for now. Thanks!

>>236045857

>>236046293
>>236046392
Eat your peaches first

i just got vr the other day and im drunk where do i go to creep on anime girl(boys)?

>>236051817
Ctl-F recap >>236006103 (Cross-thread)

>>236051905
VRchat
friend yuru for NA region
friend shammy for EU region
friend temporal for SEA region
just introduce yourself as new and mingle and add other people as friends

>>236051953

This is perfect, thanks so much for pointing me in the right direction!

snek

>>236052138
Cutest Anime Girl.

>>236045572
>>236046264
Okay, I installed the patch, no difference.
But I found out that if I interact with my desktop with the mouse, the glitch goes away?? As in, just click on another tab on the browser, and my game corrects itself for another few minutes, then the glitch shows up again.
I absolutely do not get what the fuck is going on.

Pavlov Now
Definitely Not A Cat
Pass:5263

>>236052875

You can try turning on debugging by going to SkyrimVR.ini and adding this:
[Papyrus]
bEnableLogging=1
bEnableTrace=1
bLoadDebugInformation = 1

and seeing if anything gets logged.

I also just saw a Reddit thread where someone mentioned using DDU to uninstall their graphics drivers and then reinstalling them helped.

>>236053316
get on vrc so we can lewd

>>236045639
Please teach me your ways master.

>>236049664
Tupper hates jelly

>none of my shots hitting
>lobby dies
>Angrily load up random na lobby
>instantly get 4 headshots
High ping is so aids

>mfw all these grenade kills

>>236055781

>>236056095
That was australia to the US to new zealand. Today was the US to the EU to new zealand.

Dal here, organizing the forest VR due to vrchat being dead, anybody interested in the thread?

>>236056540
It's dal, leader of /vrg/ and esteemed chairmember of the ULF!

>>236056540
I would be if I were at home and had the game. How much is it?[/spoiler]

>>236056871
It is I, join vr game peon

>>236056095
on my screen he never raised his gun and i did a clutch as fuck spin around and instantly headshot him whilst his hands were still aiming at the ground

>>236056540
I would but you don't like me anymore

>>236057481

Banana i saw you.

>>236057543
Wat

>>236057662
It is a chaika to remind that we are all chaika on the inside

>>236057726
Im a nigger lole

>>236057845
even niggers are chaikas on the inside

>>236057938
Not me

>>236057981
Oh ok, carry on

>>236058015
:(

>>236058318

>>236034048
normally. You bump your controller with some guns but oh well.
I only use the stock for really slow paced games like sniping in Onward nowadays, We fucking need tracker support, so you can at least have a physical sidearm.

>>236058402
Sad

>>236059159

Speaking of stocks, has anyone used those magnetic ones? I think the biggest problem with the stock I have (ProCuckVR) is how much time you lose get it back in place. Even if I get used to that, it's at least a second before I feel the controller is where it is supposed to be. I think a lot of thet would be fixed with a magnetic ones, not to mention if I had no pole under the controllers, I'd have no problem with reloading anymore.

>>236043146
Having friends to at least virtually hug makes me feel not so lonely when away from my gf

>>236056095
>King Crimson

Triple Triad
10PM GMT Saturday 1st December (Countdown below)

Sign ups are now closed. But we still need reserves! Still let me know if you want to play and you might get a chance if someone doesn't show up.
Spectators are welcome but if we get too many people and the performance is severely effected we may need to ask spectators to use no IK avatars.

Rules:
Closed Hand - You won't be able to see your opponents cards
Sudden Death - For the knockout games only - If the game ends in a draw, a sudden death occurs in which a new game is started but the cards are distributed on the side of the colour they were on at the end of the game.
Deck Builder - Fully randomised decks are disabled. You have to pick your cards which will consist of 2 bronze cards, 1 silver card, 1 gold card and a choice of either gold, epic or a randomised legendary card. If you want to get some decks planned out you can use the link to the world below.

Tournament format:
Group Stage - There will be 4 groups to start with, each group will get their own board to play their games on. You will play a single game against each person in that group. A win will give you 2 points, a draw will give you 1 point and a less will give you none. 2 players with the most points in their group will proceed to the Knockout Stage.
Knockout Stage - All knockout games will be best of 3. The 8 qualifying players will play in the quarter finals, the 4 winners continuing to the semi finals. The 2 winners of the semi finals will move on to the finals and the 2 losers will then play against each other for third place before the finals.

Link to the world to practice: https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_f6a86cc9-abcd-40e5-baa3-b06986cd18dd
Countdown to the tournament: https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20181201T22&p0=136&msg=Triple+Triad&font=cursive&csz=1

>>236059404
Kek

>>236043146
I really like the shooting range in Onward, handguns especially. I wish Pavlov didn't go full nigger recoil on handguns.

>>236021490 (Cross-thread)
We did. It was very fun as well. I really wish we had these kind of maps in vrchat

>>236056540
ooga booga where the server details at?

>>236060605
nobody cares

>>236060739
Then stop shitting up the thread

>>236060605
Fuck off

>>236060605
Incorrect. Jelly 100% got cucked by Yuki which is why he has a huge grudge against him and tried to get back at him by exposing him as drawanon. Spiteful little retard.

where are the jannies? does the report button even do anything?

>>236060790
>tfw jelly tells someone else to stop shitting up the thread

>>236060790
You're shitting it up right now

>>236061150
Literally just another naive newfag that drank the jelly victim koolaid. Is this the third or fourth boyfriend he’s had from vrg? I can’t keep up. This faggot gets around all the new guys.

List of people to block on sight:
-non-anime avatars
-male avatars
-flat-chested avatars(only C cup or above)
-non-toon shader on their face

So you're telling me that you have access to the tools to create any reality you want, but you decide to bicker and talk about the lives of others?
Isn't that strange? You're more free to experience anything than you've ever been, at least in the visual and audible sense, yet you spends your time focused on things so disappointingly normal and social.
What does that say about you anon? No desire to create, not even a desire to search out something new. Just the same human mediocrity you had before the headset with a little immersion. Are you really okay with this being your status quo? Your forever?

>>236061432
>-flat-chested avatars(only C cup or above)
yikes... please block me, i don't need to associate with plebs

>>236061457
fuck..

>>236061393
You're a bitter boomer

>>236061457
You have the tools to do anything you want too. Why did you just bitch instead?

Looks like I'll just wait until next thread for this shit to blow over again.
Mods keep doing what you're doing, thanks.

>>236061432
>not being able to appreciate chests of all sizes
I pity you

>>236061623
Not bitter and not a boomer. Try again jelly :^)

Namedrop flatchestedfags so that I can INSTANTLY block them

>>236061457
I feel you man

>>236061781
Me!

>>236061781
Me too

>>236061543
"fuck.." what anon? Put pore effort into explaining how it made you feel, I can't understand you from just one word!
>>236061667
Because that's what I wanted to do!
>>236061792
Stinky nigger go away

>>236061734
Not jelly try again spray and pray

>>236061792
OF COURSE, OF COURSE, OF COURSE YOU'D HAVE TO AVATARFAG YOU FUCKING ATTENTION WHORE SASUGA JOHNNY YOU REALIZE HOW INCREDIBLY IRONIC IS IT FOR YOU TO REPLY TO THAT MESSAGE AVATARFAGGING DON'T YOU? DID YOU EVEN READ WHAT IT SAYS? YOU DID RIGHT? :^) SEE THE DORITO FACE? IT MEANS I'M BEING SARCASTIC OF COURSE YOU DIDN'T EVEN READ IT YOU JUST WANT ATTENTION FUCK OFFFFFFFFFF

>>236061880
"fuck" that I'm talking about other people's life instead of focusing on the wonders VR has to offer

>>236061917
autism

Instead of hate and rage, who are some people you enjoy seeing in game?

>>236060890
(you) (me)

>>236061432
You forgot tda avatars

>>236062167
Nobody anymore kill me

>>236061457
>t. desktopper who dreams about having VR but doesn't know the novelty of it wears off after a month

>>236061992
Go focus on those wonders then! Or make some of your own, it's not as hard as you might think to make something impactful with VR, the immersion of the technology is a big help in making even something simple feel full of depth.
The best vrchat map I've ever visited was made by an anon, although they never got anywhere close to finishing it. It was pretty much a few shaders and props lying inside a cube that had a few empty floors and music playing.
No other map I've seen has come as close to being a possible expression of someone's mind, even just a tiny slice of their inner thoughts, as that one did. I think things like this are what people should strive for. Why are we imitating reality so strictly when the rules can so easily be bent by our hands to express something more abstract than yet another bedroom to lie in with your fellow anime girls?
Make something anon, something to show others. Something that shows yourself.

>>236062167
Instead of seeing, who do you desire a deeper connection with? Not in any romantic sense, simply those you have a desire to understand. Do you have anyone like that anon, or do you merely have people that you hang around because it amuses you?

>>236061457
Why is it as always jelly

>>236062616
Because he has orbiters that are super autistic and only know how to screech about him instead of conversing like normal humans.

>>236062616
Because he has enemies that are super autistic and only know how to screech about him instead of conversing like normal humans.

>>236062261
I think the novelty doesn't wear off that fast as long as you play actual decent VR games. I've had mine for close to a year and and I still gasp and can't help but be amazed at new things I see in different VR games.
But VRChat for example is just so plain, even with hmd it looks like a really old bad desktop game. Yes the 3D shapes are there but it just feels so empty, flat, boring, low quality...

Remember: lewder rhymes with loser for a reason

>>236063147
If you want to lewd that bad just ask someone you can trust to show you how

>>236061457
>So you're telling me that you have access to the tools to create any reality you want
On the contrary, they are trapped in their own mind and any reality they create is constrained by their mind. Thus the 'human mediocrity' recreates itself

>>236063147
this

>>236063392
that is an ominous proposition

Anime night for zombieland saga and your lie in April postponed to tomorrow, tentatively to 5pm GMT +8 for various reasons.

>>236061457
Not really, try out VRChat - the only good part is socializing and dancing, anything requiring interaction just bugs the fuck out.

>>236062847
>decent VR games
there are none unless you play one game a year. VRChat still has the best envoirments in VR by a longshot.

>>236064903
>your lie in April
isnt that like 10 years old.

>>236062167
Anyone who pays me attention. Especially if I don't have to force myself in front of them first.

>>236062167
My friends that i can chat with casual ease with no pressure no matter how quiet i am or how long it has been since we met last time

>Tfw someone try to lewd you but they don't even have lewd avatar

>>236061457
I used to try to create interesting things, but no-one cares very much. I think this is why everyone stops creating, because you get far more reward by spending the time in VRC than in blender or unity.

>>236062652
He's like a less useful tupper

>>236067430
not possible, sorry

>>236061457
I've already lost control of my life, my life is sleeping like a soldier trapped in a iron lung. But I've got this feeling burning like my veins are filled with nothing but gasoline.
>No desire to create, not even a desire to search out something new.
There are the embers of a passion that's gone out, but I can still feel the heat on my skin.
Maybe you lit that flame.
I can still make it right.
Maybe I can bring back the light.

>>236061457
VR is like the last moment before a candle is burnt out for me. It's too late to salvage the wreck that my soul has become.

>>236043121
Try Microsoft macquette

>>236061457
Pretty much everyone here has a chance to be creative every day in a daily mandatory task. Cooking. Kitchen is a world where wonders of taste can be achieved, but how many here bother to learn?

When's the last time you made pulled pork? Lasagna? Burgers? Learned a Korean recipe like bibimpap or bulgogi? Rolled up a dough for a deep dish pizza? Embarked on a 4-day-long journey to make the most perfect ramen? Baked fresh bread?

I truly think people who are creative in VR have at least a loose connection to people who are creative in the kitchen.

>>236069938
You're not wrong at all.

I've come to realize that making friends is kind of like grinding in video games to level up.

>>236069938
>When's the last time you made pulled pork?
Just pulled 15lbs last week.

>>236070469
Feels like complete RNG to me. Some will arbitrarily decide they like me whereas the rest will never give a shit. Nothing seems to actually affect it either way.

>>236070715
Can my friend titanforge into sex?

So how's Operators compared to what's on market?

>>236069938
I don't go for groceries until my brain automatically switches into survival mode.

>>236071524
bet your the kind of person who's always laying down in the meetups staring at a mirror

whatcha working on /vrg/?

Redpill me on Omega22

>>236071589
Nah, I shake my butt and do lame dance routines, then leave because nobody gives me any attention ever and I start to wonder if I'm not just shadowbanned/blocked by everyone.

>>236070715
I usually just hang around with people and see which ones like my company and which don't, if i find people that i click with it is usually pretty easy to just sit around and hang out with

>>236071662
Courage to kill myself.

>>236071736
I always block people who I see in big meetups with a shitton of dynamic bones. Nothing personal

>>236071736
You pretty much have to talk to get any attention. Unless you're very new or have been here a long time. In the second case, you'll only get a few greetings.

>>236071837
shinji, get in the damn robot

>>236071837
t.eufag

>>236071989
>others are happy
Anon i...

>>236071989
what

>>236072131
>>236072156
99% of eufags sound like they want to kill themselves. Most of nafriends sound happy and full of energy. Imagine being able to look however you want and being able to be wherever you want and still being depressed Jesus Christ you guys are pathetic and will never find happiness

>>236071908
so what you're saying is even if you don't talk and contribute anything to the meetup, and simply come join often people are nice enough to still approach you and try interact with you.
Which is absolutely true, we have enough nice outgoing anons that anyone who isn't a self absorbed ego can feel welcome. Those who whine about not getting attention are furniture who contribute nothing to the community themselves and somehow expect everyone to know and be able to interact with them.

>>236072365
>99% of eufags
Namedrop the 1% who is happy

>>236072365
EU is still top comfy though, you just need to learn to get into the atmosphere and you'll see they are the chillest dudes to just be around, ok US meetups beat us at dancing and karaoke etc activity but EU is top chill

>>236072596
Shammy

Zauber why have you left us?....

>>236072870
no one cares
hes better off alone

>>236072368
To an extent it's justified. On the other hand it's virtually impossible to break out of. Most of /vrg/ will not only never approach someone they don't know, but they'll resist others approaching them as well. Those that will approach others tend to focus on whoever is already popular, probably not least because no-one else will reciprocate well. They get so involved with that group that you can't really break into it, either. Not to mention that that consider it nothing more than a popularity contest. If you spend all your time trying to meet a lot of new people, you end up never really knowing anyone, unless you focus on some you already had success with. You either hide yourself in an extremely exclusive group, become an attention whore, or remain on the sidelines watching everyone else do one of those two thing. It's the inherent problem of human social patterns magnified by autism.

>>236072608
EU is genuinely awful.

>>236072729
the best

>>236072365
>imagine being self-aware to the point you notice smokes and mirrors
WOOOOOOW being EU SUX

>>236073231
well i enjoy EU meetups, they are nice and comfy

>Shammy will never nurse you to sleep reading you a bedtime story
Anons....

https://youtu.be/U3NoDEu7kpg

https://youtu.be/68dCiadUiBg

>tfw finally realized that VRbros > VRfus
I'm going to do my best to not get too attached anymore, the emotions one has to wade through with retarded imaginary relationships cause more harm than the temporary high you get from having someone "special".
Thank you for helping me see this - you know who you are.

>>236074276
The thread isn't your journal just DM them this you fucking avatarfag.

>>236074276
Have your (you) mr bait.

>>236074276
t. fce

>>236075446
Nah that faggot is still being bitter and childish the he didn't get told "why" someone doesn't want to talk to him as if he's obliged to tell him.

>>236076383
If you had feels from someone wouldn't you like to know why they suddenly left you out?

>>236061457
unrelated, are you a massive lain fan like me?
I'm a highly technically skilled worldbuilder toying with the idea of building something for the dvd remaster so anons can watch in PRESENT DAY... PRESENT TIME HAHAHAHA. I've got private hosting that I've had for 17 years so they leave me alone and let me have whatever on it.

I've been seeing lain posts for a week or so.

As long as we don't start a literal false god death cult it's all good.

>>236062562
Something like a collaboration Lain world is really needed in vrc, and that's the kind of thing that would get me out of my hidey hole.
I might even join the discord.

>>236076526
nah, at some point in life you just dont really care because you know the reasons are often prejudice

>>236076586
>I'm a highly technically skilled worldbuilder toying with the idea of building something for the dvd remaster
If we're not watching PRESENT DAY... PRESENT TIME HAHAHAHA in Lain's Room itself I'm going to be disappointed in you anon!

And yeah pass on the death cult stuff thanks.

Remember! Give Headpats.

>>236076586
>>236077213
Here's the other images I have that would help if you actually were an absolute madman and built that world, one more to post in a second that I've saved from other anons posting.

I sometimes miss these days, when we though the next generation headsets would be a giant leap forward.
They've come far, but they're not quite perfect. I really hope valve's is as good as my analysis of the leaked images seems to show.
The perfect hmd, in my eyes:
curved, short throw projected screens rather than lenses and lcd for perfect optics with no god rays and no screendoor.
knuckles controllers.
cheap, affordable fbt trackers included, like the "HiveTracker" project on hackday.
Inside out on the hmd, motorless lighthouse v2 for fbt and controller tracking
Bluetooth 5.0 built into the headset to improve communication between the trackers, and they run on cr2032 button cell.
150+deg fov, easy with projected.
I actually don't care about wireless, make it virtuallink (which btw is just usb-c 3.1 alternate mode, so you can use displayport)
magnetic breakaway cable from the link box.

that would be perfect.
>>236077391
Someone did Lain's room in Janus VR. Janus assets are glb, I wonder if I could rip it from cache.

>>236076586
>>236077213
>>236077391
Good luck anon. Even if you don't get anything done I want to re-watch lain with anons some time, please keep us informed of when you have things planned!
>>236076720
What exactly would make a Lain world a 'collaboration' as opposed to just one person working on it?

>>236077551
>Someone did Lain's room in Janus VR
wtf I love Janus now

>>236076586
I own the bluray remaster for lain and boy does that style look great at that high of a resolution.

>>236076932
Takes two to tango, we are the harbringers of our own solitude and misery

>>236077570
collab in that many hands make short work.
A good room is just 90% good assets... The rest is someone who knows how to do proper post processing and performance render passes on a room and lighting and has the tools to do so. I've always been the one teaching others about unity, there are others better at blender than me but I'm trying to close that gap, I use other software for 3d.
I also have physaudio and some of the other vrchat premium whitelisted packages, but I would be doing it on the new 2017 build.

Also it's a bit of a hack for my brain. By collaborating with anons and using unity's free project system, having a few people to find and provide meshes and textures is a lot more motivating than me doing it all myself mostly because I'm pretty adhd.

Not saying that I can't or won't, but I'll mill it over a bit.

>>236077825
https://vesta.janusvr.com/spyduck/lains-bedroom-serial-experiments-lain works in a browser.
Janus though fairly unknown is one of the only real competitors to vrchat... and it's even more open since it's peered and there's no moderation: but it still sucks in comparison at least currently.

You can check the tracking volume of your rift sensors with this.

https://www.wearvr.com/apps/desk-scene-check-your-camera-bounds

Turns out one of mine is almost uselessly positioned because it isn't even tracking the headset at standing height.

>>236079028
Wow thanks this is very useful

>>236078267
>A good room is just 90% good assets
Something I'm still trying to get my head around. Asset hunting is really hard.

>>236079306
Yeah, it's worth checking. I way overcompensated for tracking on the floor.

>>236078267
That's a neat room. Needs more wires though!
I like the way Janus integrates weblinks though.
Goodnight lain anons.

Is there any world like The Bar of Broken Heroes in Hotline Miami 2?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agefZHl0T98
Something like Nepbar, but not for lewding but for obviously depressed and alcoholic weebs.

>>236059254
The best one right now is the MagTube upgrade. Instead of having to replace the controller in the cup, the entire cup snaps off nice and easy and the attachment point is nice and big with a strong magnet and a well designed self-indexing slot so muscle memory takes over very very quickly and you're back to the same dexterity as without it. Over-top stock options suffer from not having attachment points as good as the MagTube, and occlusion problems.

>tfw nobody knows about your diaper fetish and how often you soil yourself in front of your friends.
If you hear me release a little moan and otherwise be mute means I just shat my pants.

>>236081453
>MagTube Upgrade
noice, I'll look into it.

gentle tip that with the latest steamvr update, if you're on nvidia, especially for vrchat but this helps all games:

go into manage 3d settings and set it to custom.
set prefer maximum performance for power management, set threaded optimization forced on, and set vr maximum pre-rendered frames to application controlled.
this last one is very important, as it causes lag when switching from reprojection to not.

while you're at it, don't forget to set your power mode to windows balanced if you're on win 10 1809. Using High performance is actually bad: it actually locks your cores at the highest non-turbo value, and if you're on sandy bridge or ryzen, or newer, this actually SLOWS DOWN your system. It is also more likely to get hot and throttle.
Using balanced allows your cpu to reach full turbo on some cores, which for vr is very important. On my 2700x with a stock cooler I'll reach 4.39ghz because I don't care about fan noise and have an aggressive curve in my uefi.

Those two things can solve all performance issues for you in vr. SO MANY PEOPLE think high performance power mode is the way to go and microsoft is stupid for naming it that.

>>236079316
baked lighting and proper probes is very important too, occlusion volumes too.

>>236079028
How does this work? I open it and it doesn't take any input. None of the keybinds work and it doesn't show up in vr.

>>236082195
Shit, mine was on optimal power.

>>236082195
>Using High performance is actually bad: it actually locks your cores at the highest non-turbo value
What kinda bullshit is this? That's never been the case. Open task manager or CPU-Z, frequency is always adjusting on the fly, assuming you have Intel's Speedstep (and AMD's equivalent) on and Turbo whatever as well, regardless of performance setting.
Now I don't trust anything you've said.

>>236082628
It should show in the headset. If it doesn't, you need to enable non-authorized applications or whatever in oculus. It also shows on the desktop so you can view from each camera with the headset off and move the headset around to check the boundries.

>>236082195
>set vr maximum pre-rendered frames to application controlled.
only needed to do that and the first one, I'll see if there are any changes.

>>236082710
It's absolutely the case, at least on ryzen. Here, straight from the horse's mouth.

https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/04/06/amd-ryzen-community-update-3

>>236082837
I have non-authorized applications allowed but all I see on my rift is oculus home. On desktop all I see is the desk and none of the keybinds do anything.

>>236083017
Literally works on my machine.

>>236082908
Alright, nice. Somewhat redeemed with good info, but I have very strong doubts this has ever been the case for Intel CPUs then, given my experience with them over the past 10 years.
Here's some advice I CAN give for Intel users though, and my personal optimizations I can prove help VR with the numbers to show:
1. Go to your BIOS
2. DISABLE Intel SpeedStep, this causes stuttering in some VR titles, like Dirt Rally
VR games generally don't benefit from Hyperthreading either, if you've got a CPU that has it.

>>236082897
here's some more info: https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2018/08/13/understanding-precision-boost-overdrive-in-three-easy-steps
I'm not sure what intel does anymore with windows power states but I know windows 10 18xx and above introduced some weird shit with pstates for both processors that resulted in ryzen balanced mode having better performance overall. Intel switching in and out of turbo can add latency to, so ymmv. It may not be lowering your VOLTAGE in high performance mode, but it might be doing the cpu core performance flapping.
Unless the core voltage is being adjusted, you're more likely to have heat soak which means your processor will be unable to reach it's highest speeds. YMMV, depends on cooling. Making sure cpu voltage is dynamic is less work for your VRM too, which can lower latency and up stability at higher clocks.

>>236083415
>2. DISABLE Intel SpeedStep, this causes stuttering in some VR titles, like Dirt Rally
this might actually be why you experience stuttering from speedstep/turbo mode.
Windows introduces latency when it's managing the processors p and cc state and vstates - chipset drivers from the mfg mitigate this but they rely on windows balanced (or a custom one they make) to do it. unless you're doing an actual hardcore overclock, you want speedstep so you can hit turbo and keep the processor colder.
Disabling HPET might solve that for you (just make sure you also delete and disable platform timer in the registry in windows too)

>>236083679
That's more logical. It'd be wrong to say that the CPUs never hit their turbo frequencies, but I can definitely see it adding latency. My CPU has been locked at 4.6GHz for a few years now. Seems to fail to boot once every blue moon, but stability never wavers when actually running things.

I finally figured out the game you've been playing with me as well as the people who fell for it before. No wonder you're always being so discrete about everything. We can still be friends, just don't expect me to fall for your tricks again. If you don't get the hint, I'm going to have to cut all ties.

>>236084020
Okay, this is epic.

>>236084020
I have never tried to veil any of my actions or my intentions, i have done my best to explain each as they are if you do not realize that then enjoy wrestling with your image of what i am

>>236083954
I think it's very unlikely that your processor isn't sitting at a stable state but is heat saturated and probably at some kind of equilibrium with the games you're playing right now. The boot failure is likely vrm, because you're likely at your motherboard's voltage limit.
Trying things out with speedstep, turbo boost, and windows balanced mode doesn't take 5 minutes, and you might find that when you're doing something intensive, you'll get higher than 4.6 on 2-4 cores, plus you'll have a much cooler, less heat soaked vrm environment putting less pressure on your 80 amp rail on your psu too. I used to do the same as you and just get it as high as it would go and lock it there, but I learned to stop worrying and love pstates once I saw how much more stable everything was all the time.
The massive performance improvements in vr thanks to higher cpu clocks were icing on the cake.

The Forest in VR was much better then I could have expected. Going to try and get a group together today again for more.

>>236084327
That wouldn't surprise me, I do have a pretty cheap motherboard, and sensors tell me it runs hotter than my actual CPU. I've spent a good while trying to hit the highest OC I could and settled for this, so I think I'll just stick with it until it dies.
Which shouldn't be too long, since it's been pushing 1.45V on Vcore for about 3 years now without much complaint.

>>236051665
I know it sounds crazy, but it does work!
I'm glad my posts have had an impact this week, I love sharing knowledge about vr, always have.
Seeing myself quoted in 3 recaps in a row was pretty epic.
The question is, who do I see to cash in all my (you) so I can spend it on neko-prostitutes in the nepbar? :P

>>236084678
>:P

>>236084916
>sticks it on the pile.
I'm not sure if I should be proud or ashamed. At least I shitposted less this time and embraced my propensity to information fountain usefully.

>>236084020
DM them faggot

>>236084667
>1.45V on Vcore for about 3 years now
What processor?

>>236085461
probably a 6000 or 7000 series i7.
and yes, that's insane.

should I do it?
I have a kinect 360 but I almost never set it up because it's jank even with kinect2vr.
I know I could probably find other uses for them easier than most people but the pickings are slim even though I develop myself.

>>236086106
I don't regret them, even though I don't play VRC a huge amount.

>>236086106
Are you willing to drop another $360 on a single game?

>>236085461
Intel 6700K. I don't know how it's still alive. I had my BIOS auto-OC and didn't bother to check the voltage until 2 years later.

Doesn't it hurt her balls tho?

>>236086850
>her
>she
clownworld

>>236086850
>not showing the in-game view
baka

>>236086850
>someone else just read the article too
oh snap

>>236086517
called it. They're tanks.
I have/had a 980x and it just didn't care what I threw at it, pretty impressive.
>>236086502
that's my main issue here.
... Thing is, on the other hand, I can legitimately breakdance because I was a e-tarded raver as a teen.
:/ they might be what gets me back to making money streaming/videos again. Plus I'm a unity developer.
Ugg. I'm just worried that valve will end up coming out with something better in 6 months to a year and they'll be paperweights.

>>236087062
>watch her do her thing
more like watch Herr

>>236087074
A bunch of students in a university somewhere came up with trackers that work with the Vive's ecosystem but only cost like 20 bucks. Who knows if they're coming to market, though.

>>236086850
probably likes it

>>236087074
Trackers? Not a chance, it takes them 2 years to realease something they already announced. They don't give a fuck about trackers, the texture in SteamVR is literally missing.

>>236087290
yeah, they're called hive trackers, I've contributed to their project and I'm in their invite only development group. I still haven't got a straight answer if they'll work out of the box in vrchat though - but maybe with valves new input emulation system.

>>236087290
Those offer a single tracking point and to my understanding a single one is useless, they'd work on a vest or something.

>>236087290
>>236087074
https://github.com/HiveTracker/HiveTracker.github.io

Here's the source.

>>236087540
no, they have four/five and use a 6dof imu with sensor fusion for additional precision, they're actually decent.
They're doing another run of them soon, but unless I can confirm they can be set as vive trackers transparently and used in vrchat I'm not willing to shell out for something I can't use, even if they're cheap:

>>236087787
God speed, then. I hope they'll be out in time I need 4 more for elbows/knees.

>>236087562
>>236087540
>>236087290

If you have v2 lighthouse on the other hand there's a kit for that too.
https://www.triadsemi.com/product/steamvr-tracking-hdk/

but they're pretty fucking expensive.

>>236088032
>elbows knees and upper torso
>high impact belly dancing

>>236062105
Hes right you know

>>236088032
it's pretty interesting honestly, lighthouse, being as good as it is, is a component expensive method of tracking - way more expensive then inside out WMR tracking.
It's VERY good, but the watchman timer uses a soc or fpga that is really expensive at the moment (thanks amtel).
Essentially how it works is by creating an always updating 1.5 MICROsecond addressable array of values that are always available as a "lookup table".
Steamvr basically looks at those addresses to get the current placement state of the 3d objects (you) in the tracking volume, using something that is similar to amd's "latest data latch" and the code is actually factored from it.
There's actually cheaper ways to do it without the reset circuitry that keeps the vive in a consumer stable state - but there's around 900mz and 600ma running through each tracker setup, plus an independent non-bluetooth 2.4ghz soc that needed to clear FCC.
Doing it all with cameras inside out and a imu is probably the only way to keep costs down going forward.

>>236033582 (OP)
>/vrg #400 recap >>235897314 (Cross-thread)
>>235918762 (Cross-thread) anon ackbar's the party in rec room
>>235928102 (Cross-thread) anon hypothesizes that VRsicknesslets can't stand on one leg with eyes closed
>>235970032 (Cross-thread) beat saber devs roll back some recent changes in the patch
>>235977782 (Cross-thread) more anons whip it in rec room
>>235984082 (Cross-thread) anon namedrops some other VR multiplayer games
>>236002673 (Cross-thread) >>236002941 (Cross-thread) >>236004026 (Cross-thread) >>236004485 (Cross-thread) anon gets some beginner 3d modeling resources
>>236006103 (Cross-thread) #399 recap
>>236030725 (Cross-thread) >>236032918 (Cross-thread) anon writes a wall of text on virtualink and ray tracing have your (You)s you autist

yeesh these threads move fast, we're 387 posts into it already. Gentle reminder not to respond to bait, thx

>>236088771
God, I wish I understood any of that.

>>236088821
omg I got mentioned for once...

>>236088821
how do I hold all these (you)'s ?
Mostly kidding, I only had one this time! :P
for what it's worth, the anon that wrote the wall of text on virtualink and ray tracing is NOT the same anon who wrote the bit on:
vr sickness,
asw tweaks,
optimization for wmr tracking,
and reverse engineered the spice and wolf shader.
because that was me, I'm such a pants on head vr nerd, fuck.
I want to meet some of the more technical of you, it's nice to love your job enough to talk about it with others.

>>236089206
feels good to have positive contribution, lol.
>>236089107
you likely will in time if you're interested in how all this works... there's not a lot of complexity there, just a lot of separate commodity devices working together: which is how Palmer was able to rig together something usable in his parent's garage. It's basically just legos for autists made of cheap chinese integrated circuits and some basic code, except it's actually useful for everyday things.
Ardreno has revolutionized tinkering with electronics for everyday people, I know people who can't code for shit doing things like building their own insulin pump management devices and DIY keyboards among other things.

>>236086850
dunno, ask bananers. he's literally no different from that pic except he's probably not nearly as fit.

>pewdiepie making VR videos
>volvo about to release their own headset and half life vr
nooooooo
i dont want vr to become mainstream
i know normalfags will ruin everything

>>236088771
Doesn't the Rift use cameras for outside in? It's not technically as good as the lighthouses, but it works just as well in practice from what I've seen.
The only noticable trade-off is higher CPU usage since the processing that would've been done in the lighthouses has to be handled by your computer.
The inside out tracking in WMR headsets works well enough for an entry-level headset, but I think enthusiast headsets will keep using some form of outside in.

>>236090117
>for what it's worth, the anon that wrote the wall of text on virtualink and ray tracing is NOT the same anon who wrote the bit on:
damn, i thought i had your number on those posts. well, continue doing what you do though anon, autism about VR tech than the other autistic shit that goes down here.

>>236090446
We're just going to stay with 4chan groups all the same. Why worry?

>>236090446
Don't worry we don't let in normalfags unless they come through the thread. At least in vrchat. As for other games that don't let you kick people like Pavlov, what can you do.

>>236090867
>Annoying zoomer in Pavlov
>Vote passed
>Tries to TK but you can't before the countdown is over
>take his M4

>>236091227
Yeah you can do it in game but not in lobby for some reason.
Also FUCK ZOOMERS

>>236090446
yes you do. You want really good hardware don't you?
you can still be elite and do things that normalfags can't do in places like vrchat, you'll just be able to do it MORE and on better hardware, and you can fuck off with other autists if you need a break too.

Plus we'll be like GODS to them.

Remember how good it felt to be the only one with vr in a room full of desktoppers?
Remember what it was like when people stared in amazement at your first slapdashed shitty unity animation with sound?
It'll be like that, except all the time, because we were here first.
Many of us OGs now have massive job prospects for literally just being interested in vr from 2014 on.
>>236090675
Way higher cpu usage. Rift uses usb 3.0 cameras that run at a high framerate (it used to LITERALLY be the same camera in a sony playstation eye) and there's pulsing IR in an array on the hardware itself. If you occlude any part of the oculus hardware from the camera in any way, tracking can get janky.
There's actually NO processing done in lighthouse, that's what makes it amazing. The headset just measures the TOF data from the lighthouse that is constantly spraying sweeps of IR around the room and sticks those numbers into a literal table. The computer just looks at those over the usb to determine where the fuck you are. It's way superior.
Windows mixed reality is different, it uses stereo cameras and the same thing that makes photogrammetry work to figure out where you are relative to things it's mapped and recognized around your room using a technology called "bag of words" from SLAM (the same tech used to drive autonomous cars). plus a pointcloud from the ring around the controllers. Those little white lights on wmr controllers work like 3d, so the system can see the controller orientation.

>>236090712
Now guess who I am, I make it to meetups sometimes. ;P I'm NOT in the vrg discord if that helps but you can find me on there or steam, say hi sometime. I've dropped hints.

>>236090446
I want VR to become mainstream, so that suits will actually invest in big games for it.

Any notable developments on the horizon when it comes to hardware?

>>236090675
>It's not technically as good as the lighthouses
I don't understand this meme. The rift cameras are using a pretty tried-and-true technique, pose estimation from n-points in perspective from multiple cameras, where the points are IR LEDs in a known configuration. A notable advantage of this over the lighthouse system is that tracked devices can be quite cheap and robust in terms of hardware. Instead of a bunch of expensive photocells and chips like in the vive pucks (one sensor in each little indentation), you just need to power some IR LEDs, and probably an IMU. Much better battery life too (see rift controllers vs vive dildos). I really wish oculus would open up their camera data to third party devs. We would've had some cheap tracker alternatives by now if they did.

>>236091854
UHHHH KNUCKLES.

>>236091854
the new valve headsets that were leaked, tho at this point theyre still basically even more vaporware than knuckles

>>236091450
Most people won’t be able to guess who you are because you’re a literal who. You think you’re way more popular than you actually are. You’re a nobody.

>>236091854
There's always plenty of research-level shit out there, or leaks like >>236092147, but anything hardware that's actually production-ready likely won't be out until 2020 at earliest. IF you're waiting to get a current VR headset because you think there will be something significantly better soon, don't.

>>236091885
They're not though. The photocells themselves are cheap as hell, I know IR leds are cheap too- but constellation works the same way windows mixed reality controllers do and suffer the same issues. Many computers do not have four or FIVE dedicated usb 3.0 ports to handle all the camera streams and then your cpu is fucking ACHING by the end of it. You need a camera for every angle, lighthouse has no connection to the pc at all.
Lighthouse literally uses ZERO, ZERO cpu time. There's an SOC on the hmd that does all the TOF processing.
The only reason why lighthouse is more expensive right now is because HTC are greedy fucks. The new lighthouse 2.0 projectors are super cheap to build, solid state and have no spinning motors. The hive tracker proves it's cheap to make and use these things.
The battery thing is a weight issue only, they could have put one in that lasted months. photosensors use less milliamps then led diode arrays.
We need less usb bandwidth, not more. It's way better to put xyz data processing in the headset than done on the computer to improve application performance.
The rift only "feels" faster because it had ASW first, because carmack is a literal god of 3d gpu programming.

>>236092053
>>236092147
I WANT NEW SOFTWARE TO PLAY
NOT NEW HARDWARE TO BUY

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>236092425
I actually think it'll be out or have a release date mid 2019 or earlier.

>>236092729
Me too, man. Or even just updates to the one that's out.

>>236092847
Are you a big thinker?

>>236092729
yeah, we're still in the early stages where devs are actually only figuring out what the fuck to do to actually make a good vr game so that money starts being injected into major vr projects

>>236086850
Why are trannies allowed? No seriously why? This old man doesn't look anywhere close to being feminine or cute, in fact he has broad shoulders, fucking huge muscled arms and an out of shape body that's 100% manly and 0% girly. He doesn't even have a fucking ass, he's flat as fuck. And his face is garbage. So again why are trannies allowed? I'm willing to bet that the majority of people in VRChat that lewd and speak with tranny voices or demand that others refer to them as she/her look like this if not worse. Be careful who you stick your virtual dick in.

>>236093381
I don't know, anon, but it's only going to get worse.

>>236093381
>that collar

>>236093762
>stolen restraints from an asylum

>>236093381
>all that alcohol in the back

>>236092341
I might be a literal who to you anons, that's true and that's my own fault. Plus I've got a kid and shit so I'm rarely on. You're not wrong, but you probably think I'm someone else.

I did assume that more general vrchat users knew about me post ugandan blowup because of my vr industry connections. My notirity with THAT group shocked me when I found out about it. I considered making a career jump when offered on the spot but pulled the ripcord when my daughter's mother landed in the hospital again, she would have likely taken me to court if I moved out to commifornia or floriderp. I was -this- close to working with a company in socal vr that was later acquired by microsoft.

It's nice to be treated normally among you guys though honestly which is part of the appeal and why I hang out here to talk about vr and not at mtbs.
>>236093173
I do think too much. But, about the valve hmd, I know people who know things who like to tease me with hints. Unless a roadblock is hit it should be sooner than later.
>>236093216
ain't that the truth. Beat saber woke a lot of people the fuck up, so did gorn and Quivr and skyrim and pavlov and vrchat most of all. They're staring to figure it out, don't worry, good stuff coming soon.

>>236094075
>They're staring to figure it out, don't worry, good stuff coming soon.

I am sure similar words were spoken about motion controls on console.

>>236094075
is gorn actually a good game? i thought about buying it but it just looks so bland

>>236094216
which ended up being very true. The ps4 controller has an imu that is used in a large number of games, ps move and kinect were more popular with normies than people think, everything since the wii from nintendo has some sort of motion input sensor and that's so incredibly massively popular that the numbers would make your head spin. VR is just a big fat logical conclusion of all of that early research and market testing. Software needs to model itself to the input to be successful.
It's not ANY surprise to me that GabN himself envy's myamoto's ability to tailor his games to the nintendo hardware which is why he's spending huge loads on vr tech.
>>236094273
Yes, but for the love of fucking god redraw your boundaries closer. It's one of those games that has the same appeal as beat saber, it just works so fucking well in vr it should be criminal. Excellent way to redpill people on vr. This video says it better than I do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_cW_IWBeiQ

https://store.steampowered.com/app/640800/Skyfront_VR/ I'm starting to be curious about this game after vr arcades are starting to get it and run tournaments like crazy. It looks like if you don't get motion sick it might be more fun than pavlov, but space junkies and population one are coming out soon. Halp.

>>236094696
ehh idk, this looks like 99% of vr games where its just "fun for 20 minutes" and then the shtick wears off and you never play it again
it sucks that basically anything other than vrchat seems like a tech demo or a concept/mechanic to be used in an actual game

>>236093381
>out of shape
Ehhh, I dunno, doesn't pole dancing require you to at least be pretty good at calisthenics?

>>236093381
wait isn't this the one in the discord yelling at tupper?

>>236095438
not even remotely true when you look at echo arena and games like it, there's quite a few massively AAA games for vr.
Unfortunately most developers want the LITERAL MILLIONS facebook or sony offers you to make a good game even if you're one guy in his living room (coughtechnolustcough) and I don't blame them.

>>236095438
That's how I felt about it. The controls are great, but there's not a lot of variety, so it gets stale pretty fast.

>>236092670
> The new lighthouse 2.0 projectors are super cheap to build, solid state and have no spinning motors
They do though. It's down to one motor instead of two, but it's definitely not solid-state.
https://skarredghost.com/2018/02/08/photos-steamvr-2-0-base-stations-taken-fcc-filing/
I'm not arguing that lighthouse tracking is shit, I'm just saying that static cameras with optical filters and point clouds of LEDs are still a viable technology with plenty of mileage, and has its own advantages. As a cuckpuck + rift owner, I've noticed the pucks still drift in odd ways a lot, even when the rift controllers aren't anywhere near the pucks. Covering up my monitors with towels seems to help, even though it never affected the rift tracking. A lot more sensitive to reflections.

At this point lighthouse vs constellation is like comparing diesel vs gasoline engines. I'm not going to be autistic and try to say which one is which in the analogy, just that both have their advantages and disadvantages, which extends to the cost and robustness of the hardware themselves, including things like batteries.

I think inside-out WMR/oculus quest tracking is the future. If you want you can think of it as lighthouse-less lighthouse tracking. I think we'll eventually see cameras put on the hand controllers as well, to solve issues with those.

I've found this to be intensely true.
I've used VR on a chronically injured person and they basically ignored their blinding pain for hours after.

>>236092670
Not him but that sounds like an exaggeration. Number and type of USB ports can be a problem but many run 3 Constellation cameras without issue, and from what I can tell, without insane amounts of CPU usage either. Of course Lighthouse is a lot better in terms of USB and CPU though.

>The hive tracker proves it's cheap to make and use these things.
?? The trackers are like more than $100 a pop. It's not cheap!

>The battery thing is a weight issue only
It is? The Vive controller is heavier than Touch with battery. The Vive tracker is lighter than Touch with battery. And the battery the Vive controller uses is like 900mAh while a single AA battery you can stick in Touch is often double that and doesn't weigh a lot. It would seem to me that it's really just engineering/design that held things back. The weight on the Vive controller isn't even that bad.

>photosensors use less milliamps then led diode arrays
That makes sense to me intuitively but is there proof of that?

>It's way better to put xyz data processing in the headset than done on the computer to improve application performance.
Yes it is, but in the end it's kind of the same thing as a lot of functions on a computer that either are taken care of by a chip specialized in doing that single thing, or by just the CPU (most often). For example, RT cores being a thing on RTX cards so we can stop using the CPU for ray tracing. As we near the end of Moore's law, it will be more and more advantageous and profitable for companies to start producing specialized hardware. It wouldn't be a stretch that Oculus could, if they even still want to use Constellation on external sensors in the future (which they may not), to put specialized processing hardware in the cameras.

>The rift only "feels" faster because it had ASW first, because carmack is a literal god of 3d gpu programming.
I think it was timewarp he was responsible for, not ASW. ASW wasn't even on the Rift at launch.

>>236096094
>I've noticed the pucks still drift in odd ways a lot, even when the rift controllers aren't anywhere near the pucks
this is due to reflections. This literally does not happen if there isn't stray IR or reflections.
And/Or, your lighthouses are too far apart.
And/Or, you have 2.4ghz interference, which of course you do because the rift is communicating with the controllers over it. They drift on packet loss too.

>>236096236
Hive trackers cost $20.

>They do though. It's down to one motor instead of two, but it's definitely not solid-state.
https://skarredghost.com/2018/02/08/photos-steamvr-2-0-base-stations-taken-fcc-filing/

I'm not talking about those tracking 2.0 base stations and that's all I can say ;)

>>236096108
I play VR during my period and it helps me manage the pain :)

>>236095438
GORN combat is incredibly satisfying though. I think it's worth about $15 just for the 2 or 3 hours of catharsis before you beat it. If they took the same system out of an arena with waves of enemies into a story campaign, ideally co-op, then you'd have a real game.

>>236096108
>that headset on a brain with attached spine
kek

Optical solutions are proven tech that's been used for decades. Constellation is basically consumer Optitrack which has been sub-milimeter for many, many years.

>>236096094
Yup, cameras can get really small and there will be dedicated chips to do SLAM in the future. We can already do semi-OK SLAM with ARCore on smartphone.

>>236096678
ARcore only sucks because its hard locked to 30fps. If it could do 60 itd be viable.

>>236096678
>>236096094
Just to be clear, I do agree with both of you. Inside out IS the future for head tracking at least, but the data needed to send that information wirelessly isn't available on a single cable for the controllers AND the hmd, plus we're doing sensor fusion with various IMU in the headset and controllers too, so we run out of bandwidth to get it all on one cable.
I think the final solution will be inside out on the hmd and 1-3 lighthouse devices for everything else that's tracking, your body, controllers, etc.

>>236096481
Link? I'm talking about the Vive trackers though, not the things someone else made which can of course be cheaper. But the same could be said of most products.

look at those top sellers on steam
aside from beat saber and pavlov (and maybe zero caliber) all of those are "experiences" or some other shit, not games

>>236096094
Have you actually used WMR? The controller tracking is fine if the cameras can see you, but there's a limited area where they can. I think the Quest will be a solid entry level solution because of the two extra cameras, but you'd need more cameras on the top of the headset and back of the headband to have what three outside in cameras can already do. I also kinda doubt FBT would work well with that kind of setup.

>>236096987
I was talking about literally putting the processing hardware in the device itself. It will be done, I'm quite certain. It's only a matter of when. Probably not anytime soon.

>have literally perfect controllers
>just fuck it all up

Why, zuck? Why?

>>236097301
you might be surprised, cheap fpga has made soc development accessible to teams like mine. You can dump arcore onto a fpga now with a pre-trained model and it works.

>>236097089
https://hivetracker.github.io/
These little shits. It is a cool project DESU, and the $100 price on the official pucks is a huge markup over the parts, because HTC. I am concerned that only 4 photocells won't be very robust though, especially if you're wearing them on your body. The actual pucks have what, 12 of them in there? A bet an actual FBT-ready puck alternative would be closer to $40 or $50 at least.

>>236097163
that list is indexed based on your search history and if you're logged out of steam what you're seeing is mostly sales for vr arcades in HK and mainland china most of all, it's not accurate.
>>236097553
I'm so glad I was able to let you all know this project existed a few months back, maybe they'll get the shekels to release something commercially.

>>236092341
>>236091450
>>236094075
I bet it's that faggot lhun. Same self-important posting style as that shithead.

>>236095560
He also vandalized DDVR turning it into tranny/soiboi central.

>>236097650
Anything that brings down the price of FBT is a win in my book. There's absolutely no way one tracker is worth $100.

>>236094273
It is, but it suffers from being permanently stuck in EA with no content updates to push it from 3 to 4 hours of gameplay. It's probably much more fun if you can go crazy in a very big playspace and wireless.

>>236097458
So is it just cheap build quality? It looks basically the same as Touch, just not indestructible.

>>236097650
that screenshot is from my steam, but even when i access the list through browser, logged out, it's 100% the same

its "top sellers" aka what games objectively sell the most copies

>>236097458
But all they did was swap the ring from the bottom to the top, the actual handle and stick/buttons are the same. Not as aesthetic I guess, but makes sense if you're tracking them from cameras on the HMD itself.

>>236097226
>but you'd need more cameras on the top of the headset and back of the headband to have what three outside in cameras can already do
I imagine it'll work fine for most games, just like WMR. It's the edge cases like being cute in VRChat that get you. Same with FBT. It's easy to forget sometimes in /vrg/, but VRChat FBT is a niche within a niche. I doubt we'll see any other FBT uses for a while, so hardware isn't going to optimize for it, for better or worse.

>>236097990
They're exactly the same hes just bitching about the finger rest nobody used.

>>236096561
>boi pussi isn't ovulating
One of you better take responsibility.

>>236096108
I've never used it when I was in a significant amount of pain, but it definitely lessens the effects of alcohol from your own perspective that is. I'm assuming that's mostly for the same reasons.

>>236097163
>Zero Caliber
literally haven't seen anyone talking about it since launch.
It was like coming late to an empty party and only hearing from one dude that it sucked anyway.

Why are they so pure bros?

>>236098602
this could be beacuse even the store page says that pvp is "coming soon", so the only gamemodes rn require friends to play through missions

>>236099886
inner circle discord shitposting

>>236098821
I want to FUCK blue cat while red cat watches

>>236098090
I agree that the Quest's camera placement will be enough for most mainstream stuff. The articles I've seen claimed they could never see it lose tracking, and WMR is already fine most of the time. Even that wouldn't be perfect though. You can still have issues in games like Beat Saber if your untracked hand starts hitting stuff it shouldn't. Also, FBT might not be common yet, but if your avatar is more than just floating arms and a head, it'll help a lot with immersion. I think that FBT is the future, and once it starts becoming more common, we'll start seeing support for it in games that don't have an actual gameplay need for it. I'm not saying inside out doesn't have a future, but I'm not convinced it can completely replace outside in either.

>>236099886
be careful with that, it's just normie triggering enough to get you b& from vrchat even though it's an inside joke.
>>236097686
not this shit again. The singular person who doesn't like him STILL spergs out anytime even a whiff of him is mentioned. It's unbelievably pathetic, just suck him off already.

>>236100379
just wake one up and fuck the sleeping one.

>>236100430
social VR needs large range of hand movements for body language. You can't put your hands by your side with WMR unless you look down first. Hopefully the quest is better than that, but more is better and social VR will be the big thing even for the normies. Not this generation, but it will be.

>>236100895
I'm pretty sure after the veneer wears off only people like the habboposters ITT are gonna a give a shit about social VR. Normals have better shit to do IRL. They're not gonna bother with VR except for specific AAA games.

>>236100895
that's completely untrue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nuYn8UxOPY
It's not as good as lighthouse, but it's AS GOOD as rift with 2 base stations.

>>236101174
you might be surprised how many normies get COMPLETELY engrossed in vrchat after trying social vr, it's like fucking heroin.
All the "famous" erp fuckwads are total normies and they're famous because they have actual social skills and are witty and funny as fuck.
Joey and naggs and chips and nuts (especially nuts) had literally zero pc gaming experience or even vr prior to it becoming a meme and became completely hooked to the point where it was damaging their normie lives. The RL drama is more entertaining then the fake erp stuff they did.
VR is just like heroin, you have zero interest in trying it but if somehow you do and the experience blows your mind you're fucked.
I know people who would have NEVER developed any kind of issue with their relationship with alcohol or pot if it wasn't for social vr.

>>236101221
I've got a HP WMR, the controller tracking FoV is that limited. Maybe the odyssey tracking range is different.

>>236101637
they have IMU as well. For some reason your imu is not working.

>>236101637
It's the only one not using reference hardware.

>>236093762
I thought it was a nep bar collar for a second there.

>>236101707
Sure the IMU gives continuous rotation but the position freezes once the controllers leave the headset fov.

>>236099886
Already been done before, faggot.

>>236102481
What is moot?

>>236102481
>moot
who

>>236101221
It's really not. My Lenovo Explorer has noticeable issues with tracking range.
>>236101707
The IMUs only help with 6DoF when the controller is still moving, it drops to 3DoF almost immediately after your hands stop moving.

>>236098821
>he doesn't know

>>236102669
>>236102659
it means the value is moot because its not real money

>>236102481

>>236102659
>>236102669
Some tripfag that got cucked and so butthurt about getting shat on by australians and /sp/ that he left for good.

>play pavlov
>"press the touchpad buttons instead of just touching to run"
>do it
>character doesnt run

epic
also why is there no turning like in vrchat, pressing on the right touchpad

>>236100379
You're too late

>>236103114
red cat is not watching

>>236103040
You have to point your gun down to run. Smooth turning and snap turning can be toggled in the settings, but you can't switch fire modes if you do that unless you're on a Rift.

I'm bored of cats

>>236103202
He was watching but turned her head in indignation

>>236103285
thanks anon, i dont recall the game explaining that you need to put your gun down to do it .__.

>>236103297
Spay the cats

>>236099886
Not funny, kill yourself. You're more autistic for making this

>>236102350
then the accelerometer should be working, but maybe the hp one doesn't have one, It should though, the controllers are identical to the acer ones and they work that way. 3dof for position, magnetometer accelerometer for motion in a direction but it's not as accurate. If it's not working outside of the cameras at least for a short time then you're dropping tracking packets or you don't have a modern enough bluetooth perhaps.
I made a post 2 threads ago with tips on how to get that working properly if you're interested, it was recapped even.
>>236102659
oh my god I hope you're not serious.
>>236102735
holy shit ... they are serious.
>>236102893
this.
>>236102696
please see my early tracking improvement suggestions for wmr devices. MOST people have sub optimal configuration because microsoft left it up to 3rd party hardware mfg to tell users how to set them up and they failed miserably.
>>236103285
that's not true, maybe your trackpads are fucked. I can snapturn on vive and change fire modes just fine, they moved some things to the menu button.

>>236104016
delete this.

>>236104016
pleasebeashitpostpleasebeashitpostpleasebeashitpost

>>236104063
Just explain

>>236104016
How do we stop this predator?

>playing return of the rotwieners
>see a locker up on a ruined building
>part of the broken wall leads up to the platform but nothing else
>manage to angle it just right so I run up it
>still have to jump across a gap
>cannot figure out how to jump
>look it up
>just jump in real life lmao
I feel like an idiot.

>>236104228
It's is what you see. The mosaic was not part of the avatar. I had to add that.

>>236104016

>>236104362

>>236104289
it's a literal wall of text and I can't find it now so I'll try to summarize
1) bluetooth controller should be 4.1 or better and be line of sight to your controllers, be as close to it as possible
2) batteries drop the magnetometer and lower brightness if they're rechargeable and at 1/2 or less
3) any 2.4 interference can fuck with things, including your phone and wifi.
4) make sure you're on an isolated usb 3.0 controller on your mainboard.
there's other things you can try but those are the main ones.

>>236104362
You're meant to switch to teleportation.

>>236104640
So moot means that?

>>236103114
>>236104016
Reported for naked children to VRC

>>236104806
oh, jesus christ, I thought you meant the wmr tracking.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Poole

>>236104016
Cringe

>people itt don't know who moot is
This is what you get for inviting VRCA niggers

>>236105184
Just...how new are you?

>>236093381
This reads like you think the other people you're meeting in vrchat are 9/10 and fit instead of fat and ugly.
If you think you're banging a cute girl just because you found a non-tranny, you're going to be living just as much of a lie as the people banging trannies. Good looking people get attention in real life. They don't need VR.

>>236104063
I think I've already done of the suggestions except wifi, since I don't have a way around it. I only really have issues with range, so I doubt that's it anyways. Maybe the Odyssey really does have improved tracking somehow.
I don't personally use touchpad turning, but I thought the menu button ejected the magazine when it was on.

Hello /vrg/, today I have a video for you that shows the state of the art in body tracking research, which has come a long way and might even be reasonable to finally productize. This one is by Intel and unfortunately doesn't seem to have anything yet published other than the video. Skip to 26:20 for the results https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSHDyUXSNqY

To summarize, the most interesting things they've here is first come up with a method to automatically generate annotated data (instead of relying people to painfully annotate thousands of images) that can be used in machine learning, by using past body pose estimation methods but on multi-camera arrays. They use that data to train another body pose estimation neural network but for a single depth camera view like Kinect (in this case it's Intel Realsense). This results in better robustness compared to trying to do the same thing with a non-depth camera view, and seems to be lighter in weight, being able to run at 200 fps on an i7. Then they optimize the model a bit using a traditional model fitting algorithm and some statistics. They then combine that with the VR headset and controller data for more accuracy. And then at the last step they map it onto an IK body. What you have finally is something much better than the Kinect that's more accurate and robust, that can still track your arms when your hands are out of the view of the camera, and that probably has less latency too. It can also work with more than one camera.

Anybody else not a pathetic sad sack that e-fucks men in VR to compensate for lack of a real sex life?

is there a trick to not getting sick when playing motion vr? I'm fine with the teleport moving but when it comes to movement like in Pavlov going up and down stairs or even Gorn to a lesser degree I feel really nauseated.
I want to enjoy the games more but it's hard when I feel like I'm going to lose my lunch.
Any tips?

>>236105184
as one of the oldest of oldfags...desudesudesu
>>236105345
pretty sure they can address offhand menu button separately.

>>236105715
I kinda prefer it over doing stuff rl.

>>236105715
Wow you're such a chad you sure showed us by having no social life and socialising with those same losers because its all you have!

>>236105715
my rl wife literally plays vrchat in the same room with me on a second headset.
We haven't tried fucking in game yet though, maybe I will tonight.

>>236105747
Practice
Dramamine
Strapping some kind of vibrators behind your ears

>>236106130
do you need a prescription for Dramamine?
ear vibrators?

>>236105613
I was trying to guide the devs of kinect2vr into doing this or straight up with intel realsense - mocap from consumer webcam a while back and even provided them with a ton of code. Dunno how far they got with it.

>>236105976
Back to resetera, k3rn you're a newfag

>>236105715
Sounds like you're as much of a faggot as they are.

>>236106116
have you knocked each other out yet?

Set your player height in setting to be the same so there isn't a discrepancy in world scale. Modify your avatars to be proportional. Make sure her futa is the same size as her strap-on

>>236104512
got me a chuckle with that reaction image. I remember when we watching his stream about the oculus conference in VR because it was the only link we found of the conference

>>236105715
Hmm, these posts always seem to strike a nerve and get (you)s. I wonder why...

>>236106326
I'd recommend just practicing, but you shouldn't need a prescription if you decide to try Dramamine. It's for things like seasickness.
The vibrators thing is based on some research that got posted recently, although I don't think it's really a practical solution.

>>236105715
i want a boyfriend irl, i hate erp, what % of /vrg/ do you think is similar in that regard

>>236106130
>>236106326
DON'T TAKE ANTICHOLINERGICS unless you want alzheimer's!!!

here's another tip, turn with your body, not the controller. Turn your WHOLE body.
Practice not relying on your eyes for balance. Stand on one foot with your eyes closed and get better and better at it.
Also, imagining you're on a hoverboard when you're using slide locomotion helps some people, that's why windlands and jet island don't make people sick.
Also alcohol helps some people a ton. Being a little buzzed gets rid of vr sickness.
And the esoteric vibrator on the boney protrusion behind your ears actually does work, but you need between 10-30hz to reach your inner ear and confuse it, it's very newly discovered.
>>236106339
who? no, sorry.
>>236106476
punched each other a couple of times early on but we synchronized and split our play spaces. Now the only issue is people hearing me through her mic and vice versa but it's good for proof when people are interested in how we're doing that.
>>236106759
NO DRAMAMINE, in another life I was studying neuropharm, that shit is really bad and causes long term risk.
>>236106849
if you're gay or biologically female 90% of the people here would line up I'm sure.

Help, I'm getting friday feels chums.

>>236106759
I've found some success in Pavlov by standing side on like I'm surfing, lets me walk around but stairs still fuck me up, Gorn isn't too bad going around when I Bob my head down while moving.

>>236107137
yeah im a guy thats bi, also a bottoming cockslut
thing is i hate any and all rp so really getting someone from here to like me would prove difficult i think
am also very shy :(

>>236107217
this, it actually works if you imagine you're on a hoverboard. Any gross motor activity to engage locomotion prevents vr sickness.
Not thinking about vr sickness prevents vr sickness as well, hate to say. You become more acutely aware of your sensitivity when you go into vr worried you're gonna get sick.
Don't give up or you'll gain a psychological aversion to your headset like you do to tastes and smells that made you throw up in the past. For example I can't stand cherry whiskey now - but don't let that happen to your lovely headset.
just realize you'll get over it or placebo yourself over it until you do. Try seasickness bands on your wrists or just make the handstraps tighter.

>>236107537
Wired...

>>236107537
You sound like a complete and total faggot, and not in the sexual way, either.

>>236107561
Oh yeah I get what you mean, my friend got sick from spoiled milk and could never drink milk alone or he would puke straight away

>>236107791
this is unironically true

>>236101221

I can do 360 tracking with two Rift sensors diagonally positioned towards each other.

>>236100430

Quest should have much better tracking because it uses 4 cameras instead of two. The Odyssey tracking is also pretty good especially since it's just two cameras that are kind of high up on the set.

>friday feelsssss
What are you drinking/smoking in vr tonight anon?
I'm hitting up my local sintaxed shithole for some craft beers and sake and loading up on boomerjuice so I can actually chill with you all for once instead of just shitposting here for a week solid.
It's my last weekend before near endless family holiday bullshit for a solid month

>>236081764
I mean that's cool, as long as you aren't inflicting your fetish on others I'm down. You the guy that made the diaperfag avatar for /d/ecember?

>>236084657
Fuck yeah, the Forest is a shit 2D survival game but it's great in VR. I just wish there was a way to get the buildhack cheat working for VRmode. Really hate grinding logs for my fortress. I'll join on the next forest game.

>>236108170
yep. People seem to get different results on the same hardware, it's all about optimal placement. I have a very busy/cluttered and optimally lit play area so WMR works better for me than most people.

also fuck, blender 2.8 is so fucking good.
Being able to re-texture directly on my avatar is fucking glorious.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-ncKGhDih8

>>236108256
Cheap wine as usual.

>>236109313
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReVGrqx_c5M
With all of blender 2.8's sculpting and painting tools I hope to see more of you anons with custom things. It might replace metaseq for me.

>>236109313
>>236110084
Is there any reason to switch to this if you're already using substance painter?

>>236108256
Homebrew and, if it's shit, corona.
Though I'd rather just swallow some lead sedatives desune

>>236095560 >>236097764
The name is a bit similar but it is different. I'm not sure how people are seriously confusing the two and is the only reason why people are now calling them a tranny. Bananers already said they had the wrong person.

>tfw new to vr
>play pavlov for a couple hours and no surprise, I'm shit
>too nervous to join /vrg/ lobbies
how did you guys do it when you were new, bros

>>236112383
hold the gun sideways

>>236112383
join the newbie lobbies

>>236112383
Just make sure you're in a position where you can only be shot from one direction and try not to be in any other for very long.

Can any EUfags confirm if the private world bug is fixed yet?

>>236111064
ehhh, possibly? It has way better gpu acceleration plus you can do it all from one place. Plus spheremaps if you wanted to bake some better looking fake reflections outside of unity. I imagine it would be better for environmental type effects due to the output being geared towards gamedev now.

>>236112505
>join newbie lobby
>all the fucking skilled players join(undeadorb I'm looking at you piece of shit)
>they start teaching the newbies how the game works and giving them advice while playing themselves with meme weapons to make the game balanced

I did it bros. I finally beat the amateur AI in eleven. Most of the time. Well, some of the time. That faggot semi-pro AI can go to hell.

>>236112383

Since you're new to VR can you play Pavlov without getting motion sick? I'm having to build up to play Pavlov sadly :(.

>>236113520
what bug

>>236114209
believe it or not those skills translate into real life. If you go play table tennis you can actually hang with real people. We have one in the office and two of the guys here are fucking beasts, it sounds like hail on a tin roof in there.
I played 11 for several hours a few days in a row and didn't completely suck. They were shocked to find out I learned how in vr.

>>236114103
>orb
>skilled
orb is a fucking shitter that only uses meme weapons and blames it on them for playing badly

>>236114481
Orb's a very competent shot and understands tactics

>>236114386
Invite and friends+ worlds weren't working and would kick people into a public instance.

>>236114358
Not the same anon but I never had any problem with motion sickness in Pavlov.

Do you have a good computer anon? I only ever got motion sick when I used vehicles (those jetpack things or cars/bikes on some race maps) in Vrchat with low framerate.

Jelly taught me glock->mini ak->ak meta always helmet while buying us ak and using pistol

>>236112383
leave when you see these names:

Keytar
Buusta
Chad Warden
Undead Orb
Silencen
Mysterious Stranger

>>236114861

I've got an 8700k, 16 GB of RAM and a 1060 6GB so it should be good. I was having some problems with tracking that was making it a bit juttery which might have been the problem. I'm gonna give it another try tomorrow after double checking my sensors are working right in some other game.

>>236095560
Why was he yelling at Tupper.

>>236115218
Yeah, you should be good. Definitely make sure your tracking is working well.

>>236115172
>tfw got a kill on pubbing Buusta once
But yeah, the guy's way too quick to turn around and heashot.

>>236115362

Will do, thanks for chiming in anon.

Actually, if you don't mind, how do you move around? I obviously used the left analog stick to move but I tried to turn my body to turn in game and I'm not sure if that's the best way to do it or if I should try and use snap turning or some other means of moving.

>>236108259
No, that is another anon trying to shitpost.

>>236114358
>>236114861
Thankfully I don't have much. I don't really get motion sickness, but I do start to get a dull headache after about 45-60 minutes so I typically have to take a short break after that. I assume that's just eye strain and it'll go away the more I use it. I'm only on day 2 with my headset. Loving it so far otherwise.
As to what the other anon said about hardware, I'm not sure it it would affect motion sickness much but I have a Ryzen 7 1700X and a 1070Ti that's slightly overclocked to bring it near a 1080 level of performance. I have only noticed frame drops in very heavily populated VRChat servers.
I'm going to reinstall Elite: Dangerous soon to give that a try since it's probably the most graphic-intensive thing I have for VR, so we'll see if that causes any sickness soon

>>236115172
Why is Mysterious Stranger on there? I'm awful compared to those other guys. Mushypeas should be in my place on that list.

>>236114358
I get pretty bad motion sickness from cars all my life. Any longer than an hour in a car, provided I wasn't driving, would fuck me for the rest of the day. Starting playing VR I couldn't play anything with sliding movement for more than 20 minutes. Pavlov was impossible. Gorn was impossible. VRChat at least had 3rd person locomotion. After a month or so of playing VRChat or other games with teleport I got a bit more used to it. Played pavlov again for about an hour and got so dizzy I had to lie down to stop myself from falling over. After that though I was alright. I still get a bit of a twinge in my stomach if I play something that moves a lot but doesn't require me to move around lots in my playspace. Once I get really into it and am crouching and snap firing in pavlov there is absolutely no time to think about being sick. Sarento or whatever it's called would knock me off balance with the sliding but doesn't make me sick any more. I spent a long time doing parkour in real life so my body automatically moves to counter the inertia of landing which isn't there.

Honestly just play harder. Move your actual body around more and you'll be alright for sickness.

>>236114209
You'll beat it eventually. It took me 8 hours of in-game time to beat Semi-pro and only another 3 more to beat the pro AI. It's really satisfying to see yourself advance.

>>236114671
Pretty sure that was fixed last night before NA hours. There were still occasional crashes when entering a world though.

>>236115172
So any tricks those guys have up their sleeves, or is it just practice and muscle memory?

>>236114358
>>236115726
Oh, I'll add that when I was in VRchat last night I did get a little dizzy and lose my balance a couple times when using 1st-person locomotion in larger worlds, but widening my stance a bit mostly fixed it for me

>>236115172
Fixed Flee-On-Sight list

rubjellyonme
Keytar
buusta
Chad Warden
UndeadOrb
Silencen
Mushypeas
Mysterious Stranger

>>236116226
>rubjellyonme
He fucking sucks

>>236115726

Thanks for your input as well. I think I might just be a little weak motion sickness-wise. Anything without smooth locomotion I'm fine with (though after 45 minutes of Lone Echo I was getting a bit headachy from all the zero G movement) but I think I'm gonna have to build tolerances a bit.

I did a video shoot on a boat once and looking through the camera while the boat shook made me almost pass out after an hour or so so I think I just need to work on it.

>>236116226
Is Jelly really that good? We played a couple of times and he seemed to blend in the newbie crowd, even though he was sharing tips.

>>236116226
>Jelly
Now THAT'S a shitpost

>>236116226
stop ban evading jelly

Friday poker vr night?

>>>/v/441094962
They are making fun of us again!

>>236115990
Muscle memory is a big part of getting your gun lined up properly for a snap shot. The other trick is to figure out where people usually don't look and go there. Hide around corners and in places where you can step out and see the bomb when they start defusing.

>tfw new here and don't know anything about all this namedropping e-drama shit
feels good

>>236116382
>>236116439
I watched him overcome keytar

>>236116612
Even keytar dies from time to time. Jelly tries to be keytar with the awp but isnt even keytar-lite.

Speaking of pavlov, are we starting up a game or am I going to go play take and hold for a while?
>>236116439
Sometimes he gets really drunk and just shits headshots.

fuck off jelly

>>236115762
>>236116150

Thanks for throwing your experience as well. I'll try doing a wider stance and be more physical while playing. I could definitely see that distracting me enough to avoid getting dizzy.

Worst case scenario I'll try and put vibrators behind my ears like another anon recommended.

>>236116529
Who cares?

>>236116725
He stabbed keytar when they had an awp, took it, killed 3 people ended with a higher k/d and barely won us the match, you guys told me he's retarded

>>236116226
Orb shouldn't be on this list because he intentionally tries to force 9-9. I do it too, but more low key.

>>236115601
I turn using my body in all shooter games.
It's much easier to quickly turn, point gun at target and shoot.

>>236115726
I mentioned hardware because I noticed if I don't have a good framerate and move around really fast, I get motion sick, but it's not as bad for me as other anons describe it. So I just meant that framerates might be a factor to motion sickness.

>>236116774
Batteries are charging, but I might host later. It's really easy to host though, so you should go ahead and host now if you want to play.

>>236116918
He is retarded.

>>236116780
Im lurking fag

>>236116774
Does that mean he's always sandbagging
or he's the drunken fist, but with guns

>>236097686
There's literally one toxic shitfuck who doesn't like him for some fucking reason (you) probably because you're intimidated by the fact that he's the one person more technically skilled. Every time i meet him he's sweet and funny and helpful. If it is him, the posts don't come off self important to me at all, just self deprecating most of the time.

>>236090129
Bananers is apparently the former friend he was talking about. This person is why he left DDVR.

Gal gun 2's VR mode is out.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/932660/GalGun_2__Doki_Doki_VR_Mode/

Finally the game is worth buying when you can play the entire game in VR. Not to mention how all the mods work in VR too including the nude mods. It's a great game guys.

>>236108256
Semi-cheap vodka and cranberry sprite zero.

It's gonna be a good night.

>>236117490
Drunken fist with guns. I had to wait for him to take a swig of rum while the enemy was planting the bomb and two rounds later once it kicked in he was blowing helmets off left right and center.

>>236117906
so they're selling 100$ worth of DLC when there are nude mods?
noice.

>>236116918
Literally nothing. It's not consistent, and he lives at the bottom of the board when newbies learn how to play Pavlov.
Undead wins despite meme guns and sonic warfare disadvantage. Keytar's AWP locks teams down. Buusta leads newbies to victory. Even Chad pulls off full aces from time to time.

streamable.com/vms9sq
streamable.com/5m880
streamable.com/5eix3
streamable.com/gyvjo

>>236118064
Hilarious

>>236118192
We get it spray and pray, you don't like jelly

>>236118192
they need to add a Battle Royale mode so we can have a proper Pavlove bowl.

>>236116529
We should honestly be hyping vr.

>>236118479
>>236118192
It ain't me