Am curious how many comfort options Boneworks is going to need for people, given shit like dangling from a crow-bar rocking about, even with the horizon line locked, will still be offputting for a lot of people.
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>>247418871 (Cross-thread)
Am curious how many comfort options Boneworks is going to need for people, given shit like dangling from a crow-bar rocking about, even with the horizon line locked, will still be offputting for a lot of people.
second for unban me from discord
>tfw hoping for Valve headset announcement
>>247534753
same
Reminder to vote kick U511
>>247534910
or flat out kick him if you own the instance.
>>247534558
The fanciest stuff will unfortunately probably be relegated to non-gameplay-critical sections of AAA games because of the motionlets. oculus did buy and open-source this unity/unreal toolkit for vr locomotion masking though, it has some cool options
https://www.youtube.com/embed/VW7a_TBVNjI
https://developer.oculus.com/blog/vrtp-for-unreal-engine-4-launch-announcement/
Hopefully that'll give vr devs an escape hatch for people that can't deal with it.
Okay, here's the link to uTinyRipper. Just get the file from pic related, then open it in HxD, then delete all the numbers till it it says UnityFS, then you can import it into uTinyRipper.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/bmc1faggus16tem/uTinyRipper_x64.zip/file
>>247535034
Do we need to call people out when they are the owner of the instance and don't want to kick him?
>>247535215
why a mediafire link? https://github.com/mafaca/UtinyRipper is right there, it's not like a super sekrit project.
>>247535336
nah it's not it, doesn't have the .exe
>>247535119 (Cross-thread)
Name people that went to the orgy as mute alts
>>247535486
compiled builds are in the sourceforge link, right at the top of the readme.
>>247535240
I mean you dont have to. It's pretty obvious regardless who would drop a portal and is also his friend. Just vote kick him if they wont do it.
>>247535336
Sourceforge is untrusted
>>247535532
>streaming is content creation
No.
>>247535673
It's very hard to vote kick him, especially during EU hours
>>247535631
yeah i just made it easier to find is all
>>247535532
consider a noose
I did it anons
I fixed the problem that I was working on for 8 hours last night
For real this time!
>>247535532
Sounds like a gateway for randos. DISGUSTING.
>>247534910
reminder that people would rather have u511 than arrow at the vrg orgy
>more people want u511 in the meetups than arrow
>more people want faith back than arrow
>more people want denwa than arrow
kek
>>247536295
Nice try, faith.
Look ma i did it, finally drank enough alcohol just for vrchat that i landed in the hospital and rehab later, what do i win? See you nerds in a few weeks/months
>>247535776
Yeah I dont know whats wrong with the Europeans. U5 gets kicked fairly consistently during NA hours by world owners.
>>247536574
a-anon are you okay
>>247536574
Lincoln...
>>247535215
Here's an example of what it should look like in HxD. You can upload it into uTinyRipper to test too. the mesh is fucked on it though, but you can still get the animations and stuff from it.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/mbhujh5tf2kc221/Some_Avatar/file
>>247536610
VRefugees welcome
>>247536574
I wish I was this weak
>>247536708
Doing okay
>>247536713
Lewd mute
>>247536610
>Euros don't judge with immediate prejudice
>Amerifats do
wow what a surprise
>>247536574
Hope you aren't American.
>>247535215
anon can you rip an avatar for me
>>247537145
Which one?
>>247537145
I wish someone would "rip" my avatar...
>>247536610
we simply don't care about NA cuck laws, we have our own here.
>>247535215
Why use this over asset studio
>>247537223
some vrg who uses a purple shrine maiden with big tits and glasses I think it's a boothcat edit and I want the base
>>247537689
Stop being a pedo
I bet you wished that someone invited him at the vr orgy
>>247537721
You could just ask them for the base.
>>247537981
>tomorrowKEEP WAITING
>>247537863
pretty sure pedo applies for preteens, he is far away from that.
>>247537712
You can use asset studio too, but it doesn't get prefabs.Asset studio is good to get the .fbx. Try uploading the example I uploaded to asset studio and then uTinyRipper and you can see the difference.
>>247537981
>and the tracking is fantastic for having no external cameras
>>247537863
I'd rather have him at the same orgy than arrow desu
>>247535532
You know who are actual content creators?
The modellers, the mappers, the shader sages, the Unity wizards, the unsung dude who writes a bug report ticket. They truly create something, and we have these people here.
Streamers? For what most of what they're doing, someone just needs to be a decent human being and either win the attention lottery or waste their productivity on what is a zero-sum game of basically marketing. A total waste of everyone's time and capabilities.
If you consider making these watermark-ridden videos of someone reading out messages from a poor dude spending money because he's seeking the thrill of instant attention and maybe recognition from dozens to hundreds of people worthwhile "marks in history", then I'd prefer to just fade away.
I think that rather than worrying about people here not becoming streamers, you should work on your concern "that money equals your worth in society."
Also, you can just make videos and shoot images without the whole gaga around streaming.
>>247538183
And loli is just a body type, right? :^)
He's 16 and he doesn't belong in an 18+ community
>>247537931
>implying anyone gives out their OC avatar
>>247538332
You don't have to be a cookie cutter streamer much like you don't have to be a cookie cutter YouTuber. You might not be as popular as you could be, but you can still stream and not be a prototypical 'streamer'.
Its also obvious that you can't stream /vrg/ because you'd get banned immediately.
>>247538486
i know it is hard to comprehend for NA people, as almost everyone is overweight, but petite women that look like 14 till they hit 40 do exist, yes.
>>247538570
I meant asking the boothcat base only, you can make your own edits from there.
What are the odds of us getting Vive Cosmos info during GDC?
>>247535532
You're thinking too small if you think the only way to forward the medium of VR and be a "content creator" is to entertain a chatroom of zoomers on twitch with your """hilarious""" antics and hope they throw your some bucks.
>>247536574
based
>>247536582
>one is underage
>one is a notorious shitposter who backstabs his friends
it's pretty clear who we should votekick
>>247535532
You're actively destructive towards everything worthwhile in society. Make sure to identify yourself so you can be put to good use as pig feed instead of destroying hobbies because you can't get a real job.
>>247538937
https://blog.vive.com/us/2019/02/22/htc-vive-gdc-2019/
>This year, the VR Play area is sponsored by VIVEPORT. GDC attendees can see the new technologies from our technical talks in action on the latest VIVE hardware. VIVE will be showcasing innovative content that demonstrates the power of our developer tools such as eye and hand tracking, 6DoF input for the WAVE platform and more. Stop by the Moscone Center Hall from March 20th – 22nd try out some of our favorite VR experiences.
maybe a bit starting tomorrow
>>247539039
both
>>247539234
So why aren't they streaming a VR version of the event?
>tfw last week of VR
See you guys in j-june...
>>247539814
June? why so long?
>>247539814
>only June
Try 2022 haha. Damn it...
>>247540159
ouchie
>>247540096
because I'm literally a pic rel
>>247536610
>>247536909
>>247537863
>>247540159
Story time Anon.
>>247534910
I always decline it, when hes at the EU shits
But don't you understand that popularity means influence? The big streamers have followers and subscribers in the hundred thousands. Their voice reaches many. Who are you compared to them? From a business stand point you already know that VRchat would rather listen to the opinions of those with influence than some weirdo who attends private gay vr orgies. It's just a fact that popularity equates influence and influence results in wealth and power.
lol poor Tupper. Look at the shit he has to go through as being Admin. Kind alike he trying to talking to the Zodiac Killer.
Tupper08/09/2018
I find it hard to see anything that "crashes innocents by accident" and that is driven by a list created by who-knows-who that's basically vigilante mob justice as "pretty effective" desu
Meep08/09/2018
well u work for vrchat
so u wouldn't
ez :clap:
Tupper08/09/2018
well before i worked for vrchat, i was part of the community for a long ass time
and even then, this kind of approach put a bad taste in my mouth
there's a right way to go about these things, and making up lists of who you personally think should be "removed" from vrchat isn't the right way
Meep08/09/2018
idk im pretty bored with this game honestly
which is why we did the admin thing a few ago
Tupper08/09/2018
Pen testing usually involves reporting of issues and vectors
which unfortunately you aren't providing
Meep08/09/2018
i have reported an extreme amount of exploits to you
the reports i have sent in have lots of clues
Tupper08/09/2018
I don't want clues
Meep08/09/2018
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
life isnt handed to you
Tupper08/09/2018
If you're claiming to do us a favor, then actually do us a favor, don't just be "so bored" with the game that I see a bot join a new room 5 times per second
>>247540634
Streamers may provide publicity but it is the mute dancers on their streams that sell the FBT and headsets..
>>247540841
Meep08/09/2018
are you complaining to me because you can't fix my exploit or are you complaining to me because you want more information on how to fix it
Tupper08/09/2018
The latter, more information
that's why I'm here and talking to you
to get info
so if you just say "just fix it 4head" that's kind of.. well, useless
I'm not the guy pushing buttons and writing code to fix it, but I am one of many that is trying their best to gather info so people stop having a shitty time in VRChat
Meep08/09/2018
they can appeal their bans
in our discord
xd
i mean desu
i wont lie
people just evade bans constantly
and like
u guys do nothing about it
u auto ban niggas after like 24 hours or something
even if someone has analytics unblocked theres nothing stopping a nigga from just going on a rampage for a good hour
if u want us to stop abusing ur game enforce your tos so we dont have to
Tupper08/09/2018
we're absolutely aware of that, and our mod team constantly has to deal with it
however, your solution is not a solution
nor are you "enforcing" our TOS
Meep08/09/2018
yea its short term solution
Tupper08/09/2018
your list is essentially a slightly different KOS from the old VRCheat client
Meep08/09/2018
wdym vrcheat
when did vrcheat have a ban feature in it
i was gone from the community for 5 months so i wouldnt know
>>247540634
Streamers provide Uganda Knuckles
>>247540850
provide actual sales
>>247540971
Tupper08/09/2018
back when RPC spam worked more easily, they had a version that had a KOS
anyways neither I nor the mod team have any idea why these people are on your list (maybe you just don't like them), and besides-- it is just as easily avoidable as our bans. make a new account, problem solved
Meep08/09/2018
no
xd
u think thats how its bypassed but if that was the case people wouldn't be leaving the game
Tupper08/09/2018
i don't think i believe you
Meep08/09/2018
u dont have to
ur not the one running the bot
Tupper08/09/2018
considering i've had people report that they had the issue on one account, then stated the problem stopped when they swapped accounts
Meep08/09/2018
they had the thing which causes the extra piece of data we detect closed probably
but it does exist
Tupper08/09/2018
so are you going to give us info on that bit of info? or anything, regarding this method?
because the only info you've given us so far is that "it isn't the name"
which... isn't useful, i imagine (although i'm not a security engineer)
Meep08/09/2018
honestly dude
like
4head just debug it
we have SUCH a good relationship together
me and your game
Tupper08/09/2018
it seems like a rather abusive relationship desu
Recommendations for game/puzzle worlds in vrchat? Y'all waste too much time in silly hang-out worlds, where-as I like to actually do a thing.
>>247537145
Fuck off
>>247541178
ooooohhh we've got an Einstein over here.
>>247535532
>>247540634
a) I have a real job
b) I understand that its dumb to make your hobby a job you're beholden to
c) I'm not entertaining enough to be a streamer
>>247541274
Smooch
>>247541274
What is that bellhop behind the trash?
>>247541178
There's a Japanese game world hub world which offers portals to many board games, some of which I know to be really good. The board games at least, haven't tried the maps themselves yet.
>>247538187
Oh that's cool
>>247541370
some jap in love with himself
>>247535215
Why are you giving us this information? And why yawnsu of all people to rip
>>247541687
This is my favorite knife-ear
>>247535532
>>247540634
Starting streaming would mean abandoning vrg. You wouldn't be able to stream vrg meetups and would instead have to go on your own way roaming around in public worlds. Being popular on top of that would make going back to vrg harder since you WILL pull orbiters inside the friends+ instances.
If you want to sell headsets and pucks have few streamers that understand their jobs as glorified cameramen and put them in some club instances to oggle at mute FBT's working a pole and doing lapdancing
Hell you can even script that shit "oh what is this, oh no this line is totally not rehearsed oh wow look at that revealing yet completely pg13 bikini catgirl on that pole, hello there oh wow they want to dance for me, now this is quality content hehe"
It's like you people never learned to le happy merchant for a bunch of horny customers with too much money on them, memes bring desktoppers that want to watch memes, lapdancing catgirls bring people that want to actually see that up close with headset and to dance themselves with FBT
>>247541968
Or stream elsewhere with alt accounts and personas
She's eating it
https://youtu.be/Nu0RrkweHpU
Worlds for this feel?
And then she's going to eat her
https://youtu.be/cdTBIQDPZt4?t=12
Wtf is up with this meep thing, KOS bot from those vigilante crasherfags autismo or whatever they are now?
>>247541732
Don't be gay fampai. There's no plot behind it.
>>247534910
reminder to decline and votekick the votekicker
>>247542409
https://youtu.be/uO8zfgNwpoM
>>247542740
t. Fw
>>247535532
you're a crypto-jew
>>247542740
t. u511
>>247541114
>scriptkids think they are so cool ruining peoples experience
Meanwhile my friend is literally making them permanently unable to log into vrchat everytime he finds those shitters. The only way for them to get rid of it is to use another steam and vrchat account and to reinstall the game entirely
the resemblance is uncanny!
Can someone post how to fix the reburbence issue with the Vive wands?
>>247534753
I really need it. My right touch controller spring is packed with foil and it still experiences tracking loss on negative G movements. I've almost completely run out of beatmaps to play because they all contain a section I will fail solely because the controller is spinning in place.
>>247543047
Remember the great y-bot debacle?
Was fun running around in pubs uninstalling skiddies clients
>>247534753
Came here to monitor for this
can I get the jb weld fix?
>>247534753
>Valve Headset Announced
>6DOF Tracking
Buy and play Audica
https://streamable.com/rapz2
>>247543047
What about if they just use the Oculus app?
https://youtu.be/RUuWHARX7-M
has anyone tried using Kinect tracking in VRChat?
Lads not saying to buy it (I kickstarteted it) but this thing is so fucking clear after a Vive
Gen 2 is going to be unreal when Valve/Oculus actually get around to it
>>247543519
Is there song modding yet?
>>247540634
"Influence" lowered the quality of 4chan and we were better off when there weren't so many shitposting normalfags making nuisances of themselves.
The big streamers are completely irrelevant to me, and the only effect they have on my life is occasionally some retard on /vg/ posts some nonsensical string of letters or some drama gossip that I have to waste a second of my life scrolling past.
If I want wealth and power I'll go do something real in real life. Playing video games is for fun. Turning a hobby into a job ruins the fun.
>>247543608
literally all skiddies are in desktop and use steam
>>247543931
apparently yes, haven't looked into it myself yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lWr2dH8LTA
>>247543856
Yeah loads back when vrchat was big
Spazzes out unlike trackers though
>>247543901
Vive's smell is unclear?
>>247544004
Ah, that's cool
>>247544047
Yeah the pussy smells more like boypussy to me
>>247543901
>fish
>lady
ain't that the same?
>>247544004
I dunno, it looks so tryhard compared to Beat Saber. I think it would work if you had to operate a gun to the rhytm and most songs would have a lot of heavy drops and shit.
Something like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wtfhZwyrcc
You'd do some stupid ass routine like
>Put the mag
>Pull the bolt two times
>Switch the fire selector 4 times
>Brap brap
>Reload
>Slap the mag two times
>>247544351
Tell Anton to do that kek
>>247543856
It is awful.
>>247544490
I think that guy would never consider someone's else idea.
So I installed VRChat and... where's everyone? All I can find is like 2 or 3 anime avatar guys in each world. Seems like shit
Namedrop the mute alts and who you think they were. FBT or no FBT? Body language?
>>247543856
I used one for a long time. Cheap alternative to trackers but a lot worse. However its is better than nothing at all.
>>247544970
lol yeah true.
>>247544970
It's 2019 not 2018
>>247544970
No-one uses public worlds any more.
Speaking of VRchat, I installed it but I have 200+ ping, even at my "home". Why is that? Did I miss a configuration setting or something?
>>247545008
It's worse than nothing by far.
>>247545390
That's a really nice edit of Mishe...
>>247545285
Try to play in your timezone.
>>247545285
You are assigned an anime girl when you start VRChat, you've been assigned a klutz so she's lagging behind others.
>>247545158
So what's the solution, getting invited to private worlds? How can I even get invited if I can't see anyone?
>>247546345
I'll invite you to a private world~
>>247546345
We're usually in friends+ so you dont need an invite. Just add someone from your timezone so you can join the meetup. Or you can hang with randoms, whichever floats your boat.
>>247545285
the vrchat servers are all in Virginia's us-east-1. I don't think there's any global distribution at all.
How well does WMR tracking work and will Oculus Quest/Vive Cosmos improve on it?
>tfw modded VR autismcraft server never ever
>>247547186
The headset tracking is just as good as lighthouse/constellation. the controller tracking works well enough, but limited by the FoV of the cameras on the headset and to a lesser extent the WMR software. quest/vive have more camera FoV and likely better software, so it should be fine. carmack himself worked on the quest's hand tracking using beat saber as a benchmark, so so that should be solid.
>EU "meetup"
>hang out with VRCA niggers most of the time
I had to make a small weight painting change to my model in Blender that is otherwise the same, but I don't want to have to redo all of the shit I did in Unity.
What do you normally do to transfer over changes to another version of the model?
>>247547471
Ok A
>>247547430
>using beat saber as a benchmark
And Beat Saber is not a great benchmark for showcasing problematic areas of inside-out controller tracking, short of speed and accuracy while it's in direct view of the cameras.
On an unrelated note, does such a game exist in VR which is like CS:S/GO/TF2's surf maps?
>>247547430
Cool.
I wanna get a VR headset but I'm unsure if I'll be able to get the lighthouses set up right in my room so I'll wait for reviews on Cosmos to see how well that works.
>>247547186
I don't have any major issues playing Beat Saber on WMR.
https://streamable.com/c6ogh
Supposedly, people who have used Quest and WMR say the Quest is better, but that Beat Saber footage yesterday was still showing some tracking issues. I'd expect Cosmos tracking quality to be somewhere in between Quest and WMR, but we don't have as much information about it yet.
>>247547625
F
>>247547626
I hate A, I wish they would fuck off
>>247547918
GOODBYE MR A
>tfw there's no /vrg/ meetup ongoing
>>247547630
Climbey maybe? It had a speedy surf section kinda in the tutorial. Also To The Top?
Why are my gestures flickering when I cycle through them
>>247547630
What's a better benchmark than a game that a lot of people will expect to be able to play? It's easy to show the problems of the controller tracking just by sticking the controller behind your back, but I can't think of any actual games that require tracking back there, outside of the "game" of vrchat body language.
Maybe eleven table tennis, since you face towards the table instead of looking at your racket when you hit the ball, but I think inertial tracking should be fine there.
>>247541178
...I feel like this would be a post I would make but last time I played there's always werewolf, murder, the one bowling ally world with infinite food, spin the bottle, never have I ever, etc. There's a ton of worlds to do things on if you look for them (assuming they're still up). No less if you want to stream/watch stuff there's a handful of theater worlds to watch things with.
>>247548270
Is there a anime movie night planned this evening? It's been a while since I joined one of those.
>>247548819
>Never have I ever
>>247547625
You can replace the old fbx with the new one with the small changes through file explorer.
Note that this doesn't always work, it has a chance to make your model implode in unity and you would have to redo your work anyway.
>>247549028
Yeah, Cyber City Oedo 808 at 10PM EDT. I'll post details to join off when the room is up, or you can just join off anyone in Amphitheater 1336 around that time.
>>247536574
Is that you, Cakelord?
>>247536574
Is this the secondVR hospitalization, or have we have more?
After years of practice I have finally mastered the mind games
https://streamable.com/cu6ta
Where is the fucking Rift S?
>>247548656
>but I can't think of any actual games that require tracking back there
Games with blindfiring? Or trying to grab a thing behind you without having to look in that direction first?
>>247550052
apparently coming tomorrow
>>247549993
Pls stop using these colors.
>more than one media person by now entertaining that Quest actually being Rift S would be a cool idea, on the same day
>every Oculus product has had FCC document leaks before release
>Quest is already in there
>but not Rift S
>Quest Amazon page already exists
>but not Rift S
>Oculus being pulled from store listings and going crazy out of stock
>but also hints here and there that Rift S is its own separate product and that Quest won't come out in the next few days
>apparently already Rift S named in the shopping cart code on their site
>>247550052
>ends up being the same price as the Quest despite having no phone guts in it
>offloads all the camera processing/tracking to your PC to hamper your performance instead
>>247548656
Beat Saber itself needs out of FOV tracking.
>>247550090
>trying to grab a thing behind you without having to look in that direction first?
Don't WMR have relatively wide FOV for tracking?
>>247550148
Do you have an issue with this combination?
Are you color blind by any chance?
>>247550201
Quest being PC-hookup compatible would be nice, and an excuse for me to actually buy one (portable gaming + PC gaming in one headset) I doubt we'll see that.
They just want to simplify the manufacturing of their main PC headset, so replacing it with one with dumbed down tracking but utilizing a lot of the same headset hardware from the Quest lets them drop the price a lot.
>>247550452
I think you are the color blind one if you think that's an accurate green and purple. It's like piss yellow.
>>247550358
Nope. They can only survive about a second and a half out of view before major drift sets in since it can only approximate your motion with no reference point (the camera).
>>247550263
I did slave in my wage cage for this!
>>247550476
I'd settle for rift S being the quest with the phone shit ripped out and replaced with an hdmi/usb cable and for ~$200. Even better would be adding constellation-compatible IR leds, but that seems unlikely.
>>247550358
it's wider than the screen fov for sure, but not as wide as quest or cosmos. And it can't see through your body obviously.
>>247550837
My main worry with Quest/Rift S is the IPD is set at 63mm, with a claim it can adjust -/+8 in software, but that's not the issue with that. The issue would be people with wide/narrow eye gaps have to hope the sweet-spot in the lens is also wide enough to compensate. The current Rift sure as hell can't (hence the hardware to adjust it), and I've heard complaints about the ones in the Go as well.
The wait to see whether or not I'll be disappointed and let down is absurdly painful rn lads.
>>247549964
more like the 4th
>>247543105
wait how did you get in
I'm trying to do final changes so I can release it and VRChat is down. Which means I can't even test locally.
https://uploadvr.com/nreal-targets-gamers/
>>247551082
>mfw it's everything the halfdome had and more
what is the easiest/best software to put together bits and pieces of mmds to make your own? is it worth it to use software like pmxeditor and then importing it to blender with cats? or should i just go straight to blender+cats?
Can you rip avatars from the vrket/any world for that matter? If that's possible, why would they have even had the event in the first place if people can easily enough obtain the models for free?
>>247551036
Presumably it's a good enough tradeoff for not having the moving parts for hardware IPD, but yeah, it will suck for the narrowlets or widelets. the quest lenses are supposed to have a bigger sweet spot in general than the rift though, so maybe that's enough compensation.
>>247551335
Not happening any year soon, at least by Facebook. Maybe HTC will go off the deep end with a Vive Pro Pro w/ varifocal + that mini-HD mirrored screen, for $3000 to compete with that other high-end headset.
>mate
>>247551335
Don't do this to yourself anon.
>>247551528
Yes, you can rip them, but I wouldn't call it "easy" by any means. Plus some of the demo avatars had missing features or lower res textures than the full versions I'm pretty sure.
>that viseme when the old Rift will be better and in the dystopian cyberpunk future of 2019 everyone will have to buy black market Rifts off ebay
>>247551672
Imagine using the same fucking avatar for more than a year without doing any single change to it
>>247551567
I think it's less moving parts and more them wanting to use a single screen panel instead of two discrete ones, for both price and power-consumption reasons.
>tfw perfectly statistical average IPD
>no motion sickness
>all controllers and all headsets fit me, perfectly
It's like I was made for VR.
>>247551372
blender with the cats plugin
>>247551372
Learning blender is more widely applicable, for when you start adding bits that aren't mmd native. I've never used pmx editor, but from what I've heard, it's already kind of esoteric on its own. There are plenty of mmd frankenstein tutorials in blender out there for vrchat, go for that.
I'm glad that arrow left the vrg discord, it's so much better without him, especially in the voice channels
>>247551528
>vrket
what's that?
>>247551897
>bought a Vive
>turns out my head and IPD are too large for a Rift
Well, lucky me I suppose.
>>247552169
Rift has a wider IPD support than Vive though? Not sure how your head could fit one but not the other.
>>247551897
>pimax pinched nose
fixed it with new face foam but owie
>>247549153
it imploded but thanks anyway
>>247551729
>Valve never releases their anything despite them claiming it still "isn't canceled"
>Cosmos is too expensive, crappy, or both, and HTC goes bankrupt
>Microsoft doubles down on enterprise and AR and stops doing anything with WMR
>no one else saves us until years later
Get ready for the second dark ages of VR bois. But only on PC because mobile/console VR will barely do alright and survive.
>>247552384
It does not, I don't know where your info is from. Rift has a max of 71mm and Vive can do about 74.5.
how do i fix my client logging in, loading my homeworld but it never "loads in", ie it brings me to a black screen where i cant see anything but strangely enough occasionally i can point at a certain area and see a chair highlight, though i cant do anything with it
>>247552105
it was a bunch of vrchat maps full of virtual booths for models and stuff sold on booth.pm, like a virtual comiket. It was pretty cool, but I think they took it down now. I dunno why, it's not like they have to rent a venue or something.
>>247552627
Oh?
Even with Boneworks releasing in 2019?
>>247551191
snapped that one two days ago silly
Give me 1 (one) reason to stay in /vrg/
>>247552842
they said in a tweet "please wait a while to make it public" and the 2017 one is still up; do y'all think it'll be back up eventually?
>>247553415
You enjoythe company.If you don't, then I can't think of any.
>>247552842
Oh, yeah they can be ripped then and so can the entire world. Everything can be ripped in vrchat like any other video game. It's really nothing to worry about though, because only like a handful of people will get an avatar and even less than that will actually use it regularly, if any do at all.
>>247553415
I wouldn't if I had anywhere better to go.
>>247553352
Boneworks works with existing headsets and isn't being developed by Valve. If you can prove the master list means anything concrete then I'd like to hear it.
>watching Jerma enjoy VR
I think Mushypeas is Keytar.
>>247553650
Not even implying Valve are so directly involved but the devs are very committed to those controllers, they clearly want this to be a "launch" title
>>247553719
I hope he eventually plays vrchat with kiwo or something.
Dude's got such a good personality.
>>247553415
the vrfps games.
>>247553964
>le ebin stream sniping like rec room
I don't
>>247553650
it could be an aquihire-type situation where it was an independent studio, but gaben liked what he saw and snapped up the team. Like the original student games that were the portal and portal 2 mechanics.
>>247553854
What they want means nothing about what Valve wants, and what Valve wants can change whenever they feel like it, however unlikely it is. As long as there is nothing in our hands right this moment, nothing is guaranteed. That's also true for life and the future in general, but one would be wise not to expect anything especially from Valve, no matter how many "signs" point towards them doing something or how much prototype hardware they've released or how much software they and/or their partners have developed.
>>247553719
>small people being small in VR
>>247553751
why's that?
>>247553854
>they clearly want this to be a "launch" title
I could totally see boneworks being bundled with Knuckles much like how Robo Recall was bundled with Oculus Touch.
>>247553974
speaking of, where's the game tonight? I finally installed the pavlov beta.
>>247554051
Yeah, a bit unfortunate that it's impossible for him to play a f2p game without people immediately running up and being obnoxious, trying to be funny and yelling stale memes. VRChat would probably be hard to pull off since it's desktop friendly, he'd have to stay in private rooms.
>>247554221
Yeah of course I know Valve is fickle
If Valve does nothing at GDC that might smother my small hope for knuckles this year
>>247554495
I think valve will have something at GDC but it'll be incredibly minor like "hey check out the next model of the knuckle controllers no public release date lol"
Hmm...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjUUFxoO9r4
>>247551528
The event has been over
>>247554772
Interesting timing for a new update.
Also that hand crushing stuff looks cool. I wanna recreate the Credo skull crush.
>>247554275
>Keytar plays pavlov regularly
>Mushypeas appears out of nowhere
>never see them on at the same time
>Keytar rapidly vanishes completely while Mushy is on more often
>they can both fire the AWP ridiculously fast
>they both eco with knives only and can throw them well
>both are 'top 3 players'
>Mushy mentions the same arm resting technique that Keytar used
>find an old screenshot where Keytar has a floating spiral on the arm
>Mushy used the same spiral on a gun
The only discrepancies are someone mentioned they were on at the same time, but I don't know if this is even true, and it's not impossible to make that happen once as a cover, and Mushy doesn't use FBT, but this could just be a cover until they "buy" it.
>>247553557
You can rip someone's lewd avatar for your own private use if said person doesnt want to lewd you themselves
>>247555217They do have FBT
>>247554345
maybe tomorrow, theres some movie tonight which means like getting one game in, and I wanna actually try and anime for once
>tfw my vrfu was a sociopath like everyone said
>afraid to break up with them because they'll probably dox me and anyone else I associate
>every day i keep going on pretending to be happy but i just want it to end
why didn't i listen?
How the fuck do you make decent long hair in vroid, thought this would be easier but I keep getting tiny gaps while trying to avoid odd looking overlaps in the layers...hell just using curves and paths in blender seems easier
>>247555959
Anyone who uses discord is a sociopath tbqh
pavlov beta
mysterious stranger
pin: 1984
>>247555562
This is now incredibly suspicious.
In just about every shader I use, my model always has a thick black line going down the middle of her face through the nose, which I assume is just due to the steep geometry there.
This line is invisible in Blender of course.
Which setting is causing this line, and how should I try to fix it?
>>247556841
Every shader has a different name for this, but you're either thinking of something most call "outlines", or "toon ramp" which determines the intensity of the gradient of lighting/shading on the texture.
>>247555217
Thinking about interactions, I could see it, but I'd feel sad since Mushy rejected my friend request.
I want to suck VRdicks tonight...
>>247555959
I feel like /vrg/ is susceptible to abusive tactics because most anons here are relatively nice people. Take care of yourselves.
https://www.healthline.com/health/signs-of-mental-abuse
>>247556410
one spot left
>>247555217
I would have argued using the hand writing before anything else but that works too.
>>247545000
What's really funny about mute alts is that you don't need to guess who they are. They all use their normal steam account to launch the game, and the output log straight up tells you if you check
Smoking Sexy Style!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YV5IheNfK54&t=129
>>247555217
Mushypeas can't beat me in tekken but keytar can. Proof...!
>>247558678
Don't you only get the steam ids of users that speak though? At least I only see logs with steam ids from the USpeak stuff.
>>247559451
Nah, you can speak at them too for the connection to be made
>>247555217
Mushy has fbt
pavlov pavlove love love!
nynapi
1984
>>247555217
I've most definitely seen them both on VRC at the same time. Mushy also orbits Yuru, whom Keytar paid little attention to.
Has anyone tried Oval VR? Someone told me it's like Tribes in VR so I'm interested.
>>247561107
I've been meaning to try it for a while, but the multiplayer is too dead to justify picking it up. Hasn't even had a single person online in the past month.
>>247560191
not beta?
>>247561895
yikes
>>247560191
fake
>>247561895
Imagine being such a boomer dev that you don't make your multiplayer reliant game on an ultra niche system F2P
If anyone knows how to add a video to the initial playlist of the IwaVideoPlayer and keep it performing as usual, please let me know. I've given up. Now every time someone wants to play a new video, they have to hit 'Next' after the video has supposedly loaded, which kinda ruins it and might crash people.
SKK,family? :333
>>247549481
The room for Cyber City Oedo 808 is up. We'll be starting in around 20 minutes. You can join offSilencenor anyone else in Amphitheater 1336 if you're interested.
Post YFW VRC won't ever be on the Quest because the devs can't optimize for shit
>>247535215
i think the shader part is probably the most annoying thing
>>247555959
what are they going to do? call you on a phone? it's not like you admitted to criminal acts or anything
>>247560372
VRC at the same time isn't particularly difficult.
>>247555217
Mushy and Keytar both played pavlov together.
https://twitter.com/OculusGaming/status/1108141146226810883
The fucking teases aaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
https://a.uchi.moe/tspwoj.webm
>>247566928
>heebulus
>>247567048
so this is the power... of vr gaming........
>>247566928
>Oculus Gaming Verified account @OculusGaming 2h2 hours ago
>While we won't have any sessions streaming from the event, we will be keeping you all posted on updates here and on our blog: http://www.oculus.com/blog !
Niggers
Space…the final frontier
>>247567048
How do I do delete other people's post?
>>247567708
You can't, you just have to live with the pain.
Have you ever used a TDA base? Why?
>>247567882
No
Disgusting generic face
Wait guys. The Rift launched on March 28. That could possibly be the launch date of Rift S.
>>247566928
What in the actual hellWay to deconfirm a GDC Quest release, Oculus.
>https://twitter.com/UploadVR/status/1108179504604667906
8 am PT tomorrow boys.
Are the wires for the Rift waterproof? Asking for myself.
>>247568338
Why would they release Quest at GDC? Like Go, it'll probably launch at F8.
>>247567882she's cute as shit anon
>>247568401
The main body, probably waterproof enough. The entire wire including the ends, probably not.
>>247566928
>>247568338
They already said that the Quest is coming F8 a few days ago. Tomorrow is the announcement of the Rift S
>>247567882
>>247566928
Volvo is thursday right?
>>247569517
>tfw never online when aria is on
>>247569725
damn, so I'm not alone on this
I wanna meet them for adventures
>>247566928
Why are people excited about this. It's just going to be another half-step that you wont replace your current setup for anyways. Their current focus is on getting more people and casuals into the ecosystem.
>>247569725
>>247569852
Oh hey anons! I want to play more, but I can't play that long. Maybe we could try scheduling something? Add me on Discord if you haven't already.
/vrg/senpai I need your help
For some reason I can't get both of my Odyssey+ controllers working at the same time.
Only one works at a time. The other one stay dim and won't show up in the wmr home. (Even though it said both are paired under the O+ setup app)
Anybody had the same problem?
I am getting desperate. Re-pairing/reinstalling don't do jack shit.
Apparently it is a common problem according to reddit but the only solution they found is to clean reinstall Windows which I rather not to.
>>247570730
If you can, just return it.
>>247570913
better give a bj since his butt is broken
>>247542316
toki ... something something.
>>247569964
I can be excited for news about things that don't directly affect me, as well as things that might.
>>247569725
>>247570762
Glad they're finally dealing with their sexual tension
>>247542316
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLyJP_nH5Cs
What about this feel?
>>247571447
It makes me feel nothing but sadness and longing for the old days when Valve was still only just a game developer who hadn't yet gotten drunk off of their storefront and microtransaction economy.
>deleted
>>247570913
>>247572003
expose janny you get the banny
>>247572184
post more vrbutts
I missed our date. I can't bear to look them in the face anymore. AHHHHHHHHHHHHH.
>>247573191
>>247573506
I hate the new generation of Transformers.
>>247573191
>>247573191
>>247573191
been doing some remodeling of this butt for my base
>>247574031
>>247573993
>>247573652
>>247573590
these are nice vrbutts
>>247574031
Are you going to have this butt post singularity too?
>>247556193
There are curves and paths changer in Vroid. See pic related. It's somewhere here while you are using the Hair editor.
>>247564379IDW mmd when?
>>247573191
>>247569517
>>247571234
>>247570638
I WANNA EXPLORE THE WORLDS ON ARIA'S NICE BOAT! Aaaaah why are timezones a bitch.
>>247573191
>>247574574
>>247574830I wish he would shake his vrbutt in my face,
>>247574830
Skin looks too uncanny, yet make my pp hard.
>>247574754
>that filename
>>247574995
It's a synthetic robot so I think it's supposed to look uncanny a bit
>>247574519
>idw
hopefullynever
I want to play the shootan gaems
Contractors
Squird5
2142
>tfw took a WHOLE pink pill today instead of half
>doctor's ordinance is just a guideline after allThe color pink, not the meme pink pill though...
>>247576906
contractors is dead on arrival
Ladies and gentlemen, we are going to be doing this rodeo again. The last time workshop was interesting. I ended up sleeping in on accident, and another picked up the shop. Glad things continued on, nice when anons want to continue something that is normally grating, working on blunder and unity. The Koikatsu progress has reached the stage where I have a pretty good idea of what to do with the models and their textures, it just takes a shitload of time. Going to record the first part of the tutorial soon, just been workin too much. Serious Sam Editor is something that has no link to /vrg/ so that needs to be worked on a bit too. That last week of work took out too much time, but going to be free Wednesday and Friday. Need to figure out what to plan for Friday, but for once Workshop Wednesday is going to be on Wednesday. The layout of the workshop has been nicely freeform, though some reasonable sidetracking from stuff like Koikatsu exporting. To give some better direction, would anybody like to try out the lesson idea some more? What is something that could be taught, and who would want to try and teach it?
DM Dal for your bitching, or use the thread to anonymously bitch. Serious about that shilling shit, if you want an event set up ask.
I'm new to vr, why is VRchat so dead? Only the Pug seems to get any crowds. Shuld I host my own world or something? Am I doing this vr thing all wrong?
>>247577917
Everyone hides away from public worlds due to crashers, rippers, randos and russians. We usually hang out in friends+
>>247577917
VRC has gradually fractured into smaller and smaller groups of weaboos ERPing in private worlds
>>247577435
But I never got to play it...
>>247577917
We too hide away from publics cause of what >>247578050 said.
Do you need friends anon? I'm about to hop on in a bit and can introduce you.
>>247578092
Hopefully this pavlov update will convince contractor devs to focus on workshop integration and to lower the price permanently to $10.
It's a good game just held back by low pop and shit maps.
>>247574510
Hurr...I'm just saying it seems to add extra steps since in order to make it looks right you have to juggle multiple layers and thicknesses to make it seamless, while in blender you can just make a curve, set the curve path, then do all the same shit and adjustment at once then remove doubles so you don't have a shit ton of useless geometry on top of it all. Guess vroid is only good to rip a base and if you can't into uv mapping and textures
Vroids are ugly. There I said it. While I'm at it, kys if you use booth models.
>https://steamdb.info/sub/61/apps/
Guys, Boneworks isn't in the Valve master list anymore. What did they mean by this.
>>247574510
i like how you can't tell the default vroid model from flatchest's. might as well use a tda m8
>>247573191
If your ass isn't archived on this list you're not even relevant.
ngggnhh randos bad
>>247578050
>>247578248
I'm at work at the moment but I would like to hang out in more social worlds. I did make some friends with randos but still, having frens from a place I know would be fun too. One issue is I'm on Jap time so that makes things difficult.
>>247579145
photoshop me out
>>247578993
The base body and head isn't a terrible starting point but they still need severe editing in blender. Balloon tits and 0 ass.
>>247579247
There's an SEA crowd that lines up with your timezone. They're usually watching anime or going to vr clubs.
>>247579283
>0 ass
you say that like its a bad thinga
>>247579470
>>/ireland/
>>247579571
flat is justice applies to both sides of the equation.
>>247579386
I miss raves so I might fit in.
>>247573191
gas mask
>>247579912
>>247579470
Oh yeah love slamming my pelvis straight into bone, feels great.
>>247580002
>implying you have sex
>>247574754
Anon I'm right here! Just shoot me a message, maybe we can still find a little time to play together if we're lucky!
>>247579960
oh NO
>>247579386
We will probably start up SEA vrfps lobbies again too.
>>247580746
Whatever time you're thinking of doing them, make it an hour earlier.
Good night /vrg/. I love you all.
>>247580746
Whatever time you're thinking of doing them, make it an hour later.
>>247580812
good night!
>>247580812
Good night anon, love you too!
>>247580812
Sleep well, anon <3
>Google 3D model something.
>Open link in new tab
>Has some see it in VR feature shit that autostarts
>Opens WMR
>Opens steam VR
>Some message about outdated Nvidia drivers that needs to be updated.
>Bing! Controller batteries low
And I thought autoplaying videos was bad, but this shit is just so much worse.
>>247580207
lel
>>247580207
what did he mean by this
potato loli has gotten in on the booth elf meme and by golly it's adorable
>finish vrfap
>imagine what it would have embarrassing it would have looked from someone elses perspective
>>247582465
>>247582853
God bless you anon.
>>247578382
Vroid is real good if you wanna make complex hairs.
https://twitter.com/UploadVR/status/1108179504604667906
Get ready for disappointment in about eight and a half hours!
>>247573191
Chad halo ass coming through
>>247578993
>>247579283
Say that to my face and not online.
But seriously though if any of you need help in making good hair in vroid, hit me up and I'll help you. Just state your target hair and I'll breakdown what you will need to get to a beautiful version of that hair.
>>247582815
Pavlovian love?
I wanna protect this cuteperator.
friendly reminder to curb your alcohol drinking explicitly
>>247583059
Fukken journalists stop just teasing incessantly aaaahhhhhhh. Just spill it
Pavlov late night wagie edition
Host RedFlag
Pass 1776
NA servers
on the beta version!
>>247583209
Halo's not my thing. It'd feel wrong to use a halo suit
>>247583675
>>247582815
booth elf best elf
I'm going to jerk off and go to bed. Good night /vrg/.
>>247584890
Same
>>247582465
Waterfox used to try to open steam vr and close any running vr application whenever I solved the captcha here. Probably still does but I switched because of it.
>>247585798
wew pics from the orgy leaking already?
>>247585850
tfw still no real vr orgy pic leaks
>>247585798
God I wish that were me
>>247579009
Epic games store exclusive
>>247587267
motherfucker beat me to it
damn you
>>247558678
Namedrops or bullshitting.
>>247587675
it's not bullshit, bunch of people were sperging out about it weeks ago
Few more hours until Oculus announcement.. it's almost our time lads
>>247587930
Who cares about Oculus, give me info on Cosmos
>>247583770
Halo is boring.
Halo avatars are normie tier and should not be encouraged. Just as bad as TDA, custom maid, or vroid avatars.
Did he ever make it?
It's almost the end of march and I still don't know who he is.
>>247588129
What to use then? Buy a booth model, such creativity.
>>247588129
>>247588641
They did they are right there up with S in how recognizable they are to people who attend meetups
>Be EU, play at EU hours
>Mistaken for NA NEET all the time
The absolute state of EU, can nobody in this continent afford VR?
>>247589089
letterdrop literally who are they?
>>247589774
only fins and a handful of alcoholic zoomer brits apparently, oh and there's arrow but no he couldn't afford his vr
i guess that's why it's called being Europoor
>>247567882
cute model
Are any of the Boothelves/Boothcats even as good in FBT department as the ones SoAwkward's "Just some elves" world?
Those just fit me to a T
>>247589871
What I don't get is how you would like to play VRChat in this state.
>>247590073
They fit perfectly because his models have dumpy human male proportions. Most people don't want do that to their cute anime girls so they deal with the stilts.
>>247590073
Just make an avatar and fit it to your proportions
>>247567882
Yes, because it:'s pretty easy and fun. Also lots of clothes to choose from.
> not having anime girl proportions
Not gonna make it
>>247590460
Yeah, I should probably find a base because I'm not entirely happy with how fixed models turn out.
>>247590386
There's some charm in that.
>>247553415
You probably have at least one or two people you're good enough friends with to want to talk to more, but still not enough that it would not be difficult to randomly chat them up over on discord DMs, so you have to rely on getting in VR to stand around them awkwardly in the meetup until they say hi to you first.
>>247590386
>trap elves
Yup, gonna main that.
>>247590598
I must say though most of the popular booth models are good for fbt because the creators have fbt too
>>247590246
Cozy meetups are nicer than overpopulated ones where you can't get a word in unless you are plastered
Always in private = unfriend
should I? I'm worried the skirt might be fucky
>>247591069
"How dare you want privacy.. send an invite? B-baka, it's not like i want to join your instance or anything!"
>>247591069
Let me invite you to a private world~
When we get out, we won't be friends anymore, we're going to becomefuckfriendsor vrmaster/vrpet
>>247591069
if im in private im busy testing stuff, im not even in vr
>>247535532
Fuck off, I'm here to meet people and have fun time with people, not to entertain you or your followers. I don't give a fuck about your popularity contest and will try to get you banned if you're found out.
>>247567882
>trans flag
yikes
https://youtu.be/DwCEAdeFXEM
>>247590073
I want to FUCK those elves SO FUCKING BADLY AAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>247592096
It can be arranged.
>>247567882
Is this a public world/avatar?
Drop the NAMEEEE
>>247589871
>and there's arrow but no he couldn't afford his vr
Why are you so obsessed about him?
You also forgot that vrg has a lot of Germans
What happena if you are fat and have an thin avatar?
Can you touch your vr body or will your arma be locked like 30 degrees outside of the avatar?
>tfw no vrpowerbottom friend
>>247592926
you wont be able to touch unless you lean forward
https://youtu.be/HH6dDxIoeuM
>>247592981
I would be a VRpowerbottomif I had fbt
>>247592926
No, and we will now be performing fat-checks for entry into the meetup.
>>247593148
rip nynapi
>>247593131
>>247592981
I would be a VRpowerbottombut an anon never emailed me back
>waiting for any good news from valve or oculus
>probably won't get shit
>will buy FBT after gdc
>2 months later we'll probably get something new
fugg
I think I'll stop using stock with Pavlov because it makes using grenades a pain.
>>247593492
For FBT? Don't get your hopes up, they dropped the ball on the trackers, and VRChat is probably responsible of 99% of the sales they're getting.
I don't think we'll be getting anything higher quality than Vive's lighthouses and tracking system for the next couple of years.
>>247593148
How do you do a fat check?
>>247593835
Rub your controllers against your body to show the outline.
If you have FBT the hip tracker location is enough to give away.
>>247593769
as a rift user for the most ideal would be for valve to release their VR bundle so that I only need to get 3 trackers on top of it, but I don't see this happening for another year or so, so I'll just go for the expensive route I guess
>>247593926
Is there a youtube video of someone having it done to them?
I wanna see what a fat check looks like without having to ask.
Why would the hip tracker give it away?
>>247588129
I’ll be sure to T-Bag your zoomer-ass in the meetup fag
>>247594253
A slim person T-posing will have the trackers in line with the headset more or less. If you have a fat body, the hip tracker will probably be offest
>>247595373
But you cant see the trackers in VRChat, or would the avatar have an curved body in t-pose if you are fat?
Just have someone touch their hip tracker and see how far away it is from the avatars hips
>>247595465
Touch your trackers, please~
>He can't stand on one leg
>He can't reach down to his feet
>He has to reach out to reach his hip tracker in front of him
Red flags.
>>247595659
When not sure you also ask them to dance with microphone on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SmE0VckhoE
If they're like that not doing anything spectacular for 20 minutes straight, block them.
>>247595526
>>247595659
Thanks for the answers.
>>247593261
Oh that's sad anon I remember that discussion.I'd offer to pick up the slackbut we can't both powerbottom at each other
Just do squat, pushup and standing sprint competitions retards. If they can't do 3 sets of 20 pushups, 3 sets of 50 squats or standing sprint for 1 minute 3 times at 1 minute intervals they're a fatty.
Also you can already tell who the fat old people are because they are literally always lying/sitting down, never play energetic games like pavlov or beatsaber and never go to dance nights.
>tfw ywn escape the skinnyfat physique
I just want towear socks
>>247595782
This, I ask them to do some tabata exercises before I approve their friendship request. If they can't match my pace, they're not worth my time.
>>247595782
>pavlov
>energetic
>>247595907
>tfw underweight no matter what I do
At least I canwear socks
>>247595782
This.
If you don't attend dance nights you're a faggot and I hate your guts. I don't care if you don't have FBT (yet). Dance asshole, add some squats, sidestep at least. And I better see you in Pavlov too.
>>247595718
"I AM SO FUCKING ENERGETIC RIGHT NOW DYYD!"
"ME TOO, I CAN SEE THE COLORS OF THE SOUND!"
https://youtu.be/PpeYrbOeVqE
>Not having a treadmill in your room for VR running in place
>Not settling your disputes in VR dance-offs
We should make it a /vrg/ tradition.
Rap battles are racist against mutes but everyone can dancebut desktoppers which lose by default
>>247596226
Remember when we tried to implement this with Battle Discs for like a week? That was fun. Also equally slanted against desktoppers.
*ting ting ting*
*ehem*
I would like to make a toast.
To all of /vrg/. Stay just the way you are, you crazy old fools.
And to VR itself... may we be blessed with Knuckles and next gen headsets this year.
Oh and one more thing.Fuck desktoppers and fuck fat people.
>>247595760
>but we can't both powerbottom at each otherWe could both powerbottom someone else, but not everyone is comfortable with that so I understand.
>>247597095
how do you share a dick
>>247597127
Same way you share anything else
>>247597127
>He's never shared a single popsickle with a bro
Best controller for beat saber?
>>247597127
>>247597387
why, my peanus weenus of course :)
hahah!
it's my weeeeeenus peanus! hahah :)
ITT: Best controller for beat saber? - my answer, of course, my peanus weenus :D
hahaha!
>>247597434
>>247597318
How would this be powerbottoming?
>>247595121
>Halo
>not zoomer
>>247597434
>tfw no vrbro to share a vrdick with
>>247575796
Which shader are you using
>>247597886
all of them
>>247578993
The body and textures are terrible by default.
>2019
>Still no PvE/PvP game with Beat Saber quality of lightsabers.
>>247597584
It's more normie millennial. Call of Duty Modern Rehash has taken over by the time Zoomers got their consoles.
>>247598345
>2019
>Still no VR spiritual-successor to TF2
>>247598419
Remember when TF2 had a VR mode and then it got removed before Oculus CV1 release because Valve didn't want to maintain it?
>>247598506
Remember when TF2 had good aesthetics and some semblance of balance?
>>247598506
It still has it, you just have to activate it through the console I believe
Namedrop fat anons
>>247597584Halo was 18 years agoHalo 2 was 15 years agoHalo 3 was 13 years agoHalo 4 was 7 years agoHalo 5 was 4 years ago
Anime in 55mins
Slime Tensei Ep24
Index S3 Ep23
>>247598702
Not fat isn't good enough. You need to be fit enough to reach the top 1000 of Beat Saber.
>>247598779
Who is temporal nattoburger?
>>247598826
Oh? Just playing it won't cut it?
If you're a prodigy can you make it to top 1000 in one evening?
How does WMR tracking work in terms of room setup?
>>247598873
'reach' implies getting there eventually.Kuiwa went from 0 to top 1000 in a matter of days. Kinda scary.
>>247598897
There is none. It uses what the cameras can see.
>>247598828
Add "Temporal" or "Nattoburger" by searching their names in the social tab in VRChat.
>>247579247
If you're on JP time, might be a good idea to add these two and saying hi even if you don't want to watch the anime.
>>247599064
So how does it tell you you're getting too close to stuff?
>>247599123
By what the cameras can see. I presume it doesn't work so well if your walls are completely featureless.
Unless you belong to some vrchat community you're fucked in this game
Public worlds are absolute cancer. You'll only find desktopper kids and egrill streamers. The few vr users you'll find literally put 0 effort into the game and just use generic pedestal avatars
It's very hard finding ""good"" people to hang out with. A good portion of japs seem to somewhat put some effort into their avatars but I can't speak moon runes
>>247599064
But this setup video shows you marking boundaries.
https://youtu.be/294cpW-2YIA
>>247599304
This is obviously what was going to happen as early as January 2018.
>>247597387
Vive and Rift are pretty much tied.
>When was the last time you donated blood?
>I neve-
*block*
Don't talk to me, scum.
>>247598974
Quick rundown on K?
>>247598345
>2019
>Still no Beat Saber battle royale
>>247599519I tried to donate blood but the nurse kicked me because she said I was too nervous, pale and having tachycardia, saying that I'd faint for sure
https://youtu.be/psBJOdO4VoQ
The tracking here looks fine, and if Quest/Cosmos is apprently gonna be better than I could see them working perfectly fine as a sensor alternative.
>>247599519
If they can't guarantee my blood will only be used to save Whites I won't donate.
>>247598897
You can trace out a boundary with the headset if you want, or you can just point the headset the direction you want your playspace to face and press a button. Despite what it tells you, roomscale works either way.
Average nafag's microphone
>>247599519
>Hey, heard you want to donate bone marrow, that's really impr-
>No no, you misheard, I said I want to bone arrow.
Teared off my headset and unfriended them from the website
>>247597387
>>247599497
Rift has a problem where the controllers lose tracking with strong negative G forces because the spring compresses and causes a momentary loss of power. I don't know how the top players solve it. I have foil inside my spring and tape around the batteries and the problem is still pretty bad on the right controller.
>>247599519
>donating blood
>not receiving young blood
extend my lifespan mortal
>>247599605
>Tetris 99 is a thing
>Beat Saber 99 isn't
that would be pretty fucking badass. 99 lanes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqyAQjqIdOc
>>247599743
>Have a spare Vive
>Go under shower with it
>Blast piss in the microphone for all to hear
>>247599840
BSMP has a player limit of 512 and you can see adjacent lanes. I don't know how many it would actually render for each player.
>>247599519
>*lights up a cigarette*
>your blood is no longer good enough, begone
>... ok
Don't hate the player, hate the game
>>247599840
Are there any Kaiji levels in VRChat?
>>247599519
My blood may or may not have a high concentration of anti-platelet antibodies at any given moment.
My body ignores them (most of the time, I sometimes get hopitalized for killing off all my platelet lolis) but other people won't react well to it.
They'd love all their platelets within hours and bleed profusely which is something you DON'T want during a blood transfusion, especially during an operation.
Sorry for not donating, anon. I'm banned from doing so.
>>247600240
>>247600202
I was in a Restricted RPS world long time ago, not sure if it's still public.
>>247599771
>>247600553
They should make anime with a subtle subtext that makes NEETs want to go donate their blood. Make them do at least something productive with their time.
>>247600202
Yeah, there was that world where you walk on the steel beams.
It had a gambling room andinvisible platforms.
>>247601270
I like the idea of the joke, but I suspect that it would've been funnier if they had cut it right when they did it for the third time in less than two minutes.
>>247582815
Cute, CUTE!
>>247580207
>screenshots for ants
>>247539067
Did gem make the smug smile himself? It's perfect.
>>247601092
no
Will Knuckles be compatible with Cosmos?
Will I ever be compatible with anyone?
>>247601990
No, Knuckles only work with Lighthouse v1/2 tracking. Cosmos uses inside-out tracking.
>>247554258
He's not small, he's compact.
How do I join thePrivate room clubI want lewd friends and benefits
>tfw my female avatar is taller than I am in real life
>>247602723
>Knuckles only work with Lighthouse v1/2 tracking
source?
>>247603005
There's no need for source, the two use completely different tracking systems and will never be compatible with eachother.
>>247602956
I'm avoiding multiplayer solely because I'm small
>>247599469
You mean November 2017
>>247599590
Works out, good at particles but can be OTT in average meetup, fun to hang out with
daily reminder to play Audica
https://streamable.com/ksgks
>>247602723
>>247603005
>>247603183
If you have lighthouses, the knuckles will work with any headset.
Source: I have a pair of knuckles and have used them with vive/rift/wmr.
>>247603613
stfu
>>247603645
Yes and no, you still need to get watchman dongles to sync the controllers up to. You can create them easily by reflashing the dongle you can buy for the steam controller.
>>247603228
If you're using Rift you get boosted by about a foot in most games.
>>247604237
I'm not buying your fucking camera tracking Mark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CsrEU71WNQ&
>>247604708
>this a e s t h e t i c
>>247605025
>Heaney
>>247605198
Stop greentexting people without context
>>247604218
Yes. I was using the dongles from my trackers.
>>247604708
Based lad.
>>247605294
Make me
>>247605432no
>>247604708
Wait Oculus isn't actually doing a presentation or anything right? So what is this guy doing, just reading news to us as it comes out?
Only Oculus stuff I'm interested in is Halfdome and that's not going to be pushed until foveated rendering is a thing
Unless
>Use an editor to change the pride flag to a nazi flag in H3VR
>Send pictures to Anton on Twitter
>He bans me
>>247605504
They are, but they aren't streaming it. Also they are lifting the embargo on stuff they showed off in the last two days in private.
>>247605534
anon r u ok
>>247605294
>STOP TALKING ABOUT THINGS I DONT UNDERSTAND!
>>247605737
elaboration
>>247605432
I'll make yougo to a private world with me so I can give you a VRblowjob
>>247605883
Blowjobs are so 2018, missionary position is the new hotness
>>247605568
100% worth
>>247605943
I don't have fbt so you will have to give me a prone animation
>>247605943
Missionary while holding hands
>>247605971
Should have made a burka sosig dakimakura too.
>>247605943
>missionary
>not cowgirl
baka
>>247605943
mating press maybe
I’m glad I don’t know what the fuck a powerbottom shit is you guys are talking about. Seems gay
5 MINUTES BOYS
>>247606205
I can show you what a powerbottom is~
>>247606331
>4 minutes
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>247606205
It's when someone pretends they can be the dominant one while having a cock pushed into them
ONE MINUTE
Wish Vox Machinae had co-op mechs
>>247606331
>>247606382
it's literally nothing
It's here
https://uploadvr.com/oculus-rift-s-official/
>>247606331
>>247606382
>>247606558
Give me more time, I'm not a quick shooter like you
RIFT S 399
VIVE BTFO
>>247606603
>Inside out
oh no no no
it's going to be absolutely nothing and you all know it
lol it's just the quest but it connects to the PC
Price point is nice but that's about it
I am whelmed
VIVE WINS AGAIN BABY
>>247606781
so it's based?
awesome
it's shit
t. rift user
>>247606807
>inside out
>based
Sweetie...
>>247606781
so it's good huh
>>247606603
I don't know how good or bad that means it is, but I'm always excited for VR news anyways.
Well friends I waited through GDC as advised. It's time - Vive, or wait for Occulus S?
>>247606660
>want to touch pp? better look at pp
Por que~~
>>247606804
Literally only thing vive has going on for it is the FBT, controllers are dildos, headset is outdated and products are highest in price, all they need is one competitor to realize how to make a proper FBT to knock them out of the market
>it has 5 sensors
nani?
REFRESH RATE 80
OH NO NO NO NO
>>247606660
Inside out tracking is fine for most use cases, but goddamn do I wish it would die.
>>247606610
>Rift S isn’t compatible with the original Rift sensors. Facebook seems confident their five camera system is so good you won’t miss sensors at all.
Ballsy move.
Alright fuck y'all, you haven't even read/watched all the news and you're already forming opinions on it. I'm going to actually do it and then come back and form my opinions.
>>247606995
>80hz
>FOV the same
Yeah, looks like it's not even OR or Vive at this point.
It's just Vive. HTC must be the luckiest motherfuckers in the industry.
>>247607062
Meh, I used WMR and it's mostly fine. Supposedly the quest tracking is better than WMR. So we'll see. But it's not a big deal and because it saves normies the sensors setup it's probably the right move.
I still wish there was a Rift Pro option though or something.
>>247606941
>not waiting for Valve
>>247606985
And the IR sensors for the controllers are now set at the top instead of the bottom for better tracking. The UploadVR article mentions there was no issue with behind-the-back movements.
>>247606951
>Literally only thing vive has going on for it is the FBT, controllers are dildos, headset is outdated and products are highest in price, all they need is one competitor to realize how to make a proper FBT to knock them out of the market
For full body tracking, the lighthouses are a very nice solution and we are unlikely to see anything that works nearly as well in the consumer sector for some time.
Hopefully HTC will dramatically drop the price of the Vive now. It'll be the best thing to come from the Rift S announcement.
So far for Rift S we have:
Shitty Tracking
Shitty Panel
Shitty Audio
Shitty Refresh Rate
Excellent Price Point
>>247607193
Let's see if Cosmos has equal performance.
>>247606941
I was a rift fanboy, I hate my vive, but at this point, the Cosmos is looking like the superior option. Rift 2 having 80 refresh rate is too disappointing.
>>247606941
GDC runs for the rest of the week. Sit down and wait for the event to be finished before you can make a fully informed decision.
>80hz LCD screen
fuck off
>>247607304
>implying we will even get anything else
fuck VR
fuck Valve
and fuck
>no OLED
>no IPD adjustment
>80hz
>worse audio quality
>same FoV
>$400
I'd rather just have the sensors desu
>The Rift S now has a 3.5mm headphone jack for wearing your own headphones
Am I fucked because my headphone needs a DAC?
>The tracking and new displays are the big changes here. The Rift S uses a 2560x1440 display, aka 1280x1440 per eye, compared to the original Rift's 1080x1200 per eye. Even though I haven't worn a Rift in months, it was immediately obvious that this is a much clearer display. That's less to do with a few hundred more pixels and more to do with adjustments to the fresnel lenses.
Am I fucked because I need custom lenses?
>>247607265
It's $400
>>247607396
me
>>247607396
fuck me?
>>247606941
Just get a vive. it's over.
>80hz
>FUCKING LCD
So wait, if OR is sold out and you Rift S has no sensors, it means that it's literally only Vive left if you want to play VRChat?
ALL THOSE THREADS SHITTING ON THE VIVE WANDS, PRAISING THE TOUCH CONTROLLERS, AND FOR WHAT? ONCE COSMOS COMES OUT THE VIVE WILL BE THE SUPERIOR CHOICE. WE ARE LOSING OUR DOMINANCE RIFTBROS
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN
>>247607568
the fuck are you talking about
>>247606491
Let's go to the nepbar, see who's pretending to be the dominant one
Fast Switch RGB LCD > PenTile OLED
Sorry guys, you're behind on VR tech. Even Valve suggests that they're going to use LCD.
>>247607621
https://uploadvr.com/oculus-rift-s-official/
>>247607621
don't be so sure.
this thing looks awesome as fuck.
>>247607895
>80hz
>"inside-out tracking"
>No Physical IPD Adjustment
>No Headphones
>"awesome as fuck"
>>247607895
retard
>>247607972
>No Headphones
Rift S has a 3.5mm jack so you can use your own headphones.
https://uploadvr.com/gdc-2019-oculus-quest/
>Instead of new information, Oculus just solidified my excitement even more instead by showing off a new Rift S headset alongside the Quest that mostly underwhelmed. In fact, the Rift S has worse resolution, it has an LCD display instead of OLED, and it’s still got a tether to a cumbersome PC all for the same exact price of the full Quest setup. You’re getting a lot more fidelity due to the need for a powerful gaming PC, but for two unreleased products only one really has me excited for the future of this medium.
>Let me put it this way: Oculus announced a new PC VR device in the Rift S headset that people have been buzzing about online for months and even after trying it I’m still more excited about a standalone device officially announced 6 months ago, aka Quest.
>The prospect of being able to pack up and take a Quest with me, wherever I go, is extremely exciting and I can’t wait to introduce roomscale VR to a whole new category of people in my life. Comparing that type of paradigm shift to a marginal upgrade over a three-year old HMD is just no contest.
>>247607805
>facebook brainwashing waves pipe advertisements straight into your cranium so you they don't have to be popups that block your view when playing
th-thanks zucc
>>247607895
That looks like there's no tracking directly below.
This is depressing
How have I not learned by now?
>>247608063
How does that interact with headphones that need to be powered by a DAC?
>Vive has us by the balls in the VR market what do?
>Implement a rivaling FBT that uses external sensors, all we really need to do is make it compatible with our current lighthouses and undercut their price to knock them out of the race
>Yo yo guys, you know how WMR was a thing with the cameras on the thingy? how about.. that but like with more cameras!
>... That sounds... Fokken awesome, give this man a raise!
>But what about FBT that doesn't rely you to look at the things you move?
>Psh fuck that, more cameras!
Boring news. Nepbar?
>>247608089
This sums up the direction Oculus has went, not really a bad one as I'm sure running around /out/ is liberating as hell for certain games and VR needs the normalfag push to get anywhere, but any enthusiast chasing that high fidelity/fov is going to stick to Valve or if an absolute madman, try Pimax
>it's literally worse than the Quest
fucking WHAT
>>247608262
>Vive has us by the balls in the VR market what do?
Oculus is more
>What the fuck no one is buying VR what do?
Obviously not going to get me to buy their stuff but maybe normalfags might And That's A Good Thing
80hz is such a weird move. Is there some limitation of the lcd screen tech? Unlike the quest it's not a mobile processing power problem. I have small hope that 80hz is a misprint, or just a default but overclockable thing.
>>247608530
It's not a mispring, I'm watching an interview with a rift guy
We live in the worst timeline
>>247608089
>>The prospect of being able to pack up and take a Quest with me, wherever I go, is extremely exciting and I can’t wait to introduce roomscale VR to a whole new category of people in my life. Comparing that type of paradigm shift to a marginal upgrade over a three-year old HMD is just no contest.
WHO THE FUCK LETS THESE LIMPWRIST CASUAL NORMIE SUBHUMANS HAVE A DECIDING VOICE IN THE INDUSTRY
THIS IS WHY THE HARDWARE KEEPS GETTING WORSE AND WORSE INSTEAD OF BETTER EVERY GENERATION
I JUST WANT A FUCKING HEADSET THAT CAN ACCURATELY AND TIGHTLY TRACK MY ENTIRE BODY WITHOUT SCUFFING AND HAS A HIGH QUALITY LARGE FOV HEADSET WITH NO SCREEN DOOR AND THE CONTROLLERS AREN'T CHEAPLY MADE CHINK SHIT THAT COST MORE THAN AN ENTIRE WMR HEADSET TO REPLACE WHEN THEY INEVITABLY BREAK
WHY IS THAT SO HARD
FUUFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I HATE VIRTUAL REALITY!
>>247608606
>ywn live in the Desdemona line where VR succeeded in the 90s
BWAAHHHAAAAHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
HHHHAHAHAHAHAAAA
AAHAHAAHAHAHAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHAHHHHHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHHAHA
>>247608657
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
>>247608106
They don't care about the lewder audience.
Vive is the only nepbar approved manufacturer.
>>247608106
there's a camera directly below. (there's 5)
plus don't forget it can do fbt with it's new api.
AND IT COSTS LESS THAN A GAMING MONITOR.
THREE FUCKING NINETY NINE. That's really, really important.
I dare anyone to tell the difference between 80hz and 90hz, 75hz in the dk2 was fine. These are RGB displays and the lenses are incredible. This thing will surprise you, because the price is right. and unless the vive cosmos is less or hp immediately drops their prices, it's going to win, for better or worse.
>>247607431
>my headphone needs a DAC
So does anything that plugs into a headphone jack.
I'm assuming you actually mean an amp. You could use a portable amp, but it'd be a pain.
>custom lenses
Pretty sure you just need lens inserts.
>>247608234
>powered by a DAC
See above
>>247608880
>75hz in the dk2 was fine
>>247608880
>there's a camera directly below
the camera is on top
>>247608530
Maybe it's the limit or maybe it's chosen to compensate for performance as low as they can go without noticeable difference in the experience. Keep in mind Go runs at 60 Hz or 72 Hz (depending on the developer).
>>247608823
>implying Valve HMD won't ship with lighthouse compatible teledildonics
>>247608880
No, it's above. They're relying on the side sensors which won't cover the area in front of the face.
>>247609002
I have one. It was, truly, and the lenses were better too.
>>247608657
>went DK1 to Vive to Pimax (headset only) to soon Knuckles and Valve headset 1.0
Lmao the state of occulets
>>247609036
yeah, and normies fucking love that thing.
this is a two plug and done giant 5 meter room scale experence with 5 year old system requirements for 399usd. It's going to be a blockbuster.
>>247609059
>lenses were better
Nah, the only thing worse about fresnel were god rays but after getting used to that, you clearly see how much better it is in almost every other aspect. The 75 Hz seemed fine, though, didn't notice much difference there.
>>247606603
oof... why did they reduce fps aaaaahhhh
Is this how VR dies?
>>247609119
I agree that for technical people the other headsets are better,
But from a content standpoint? think about all the AAA games oculus is and has been releeasing?
it's the same reason people go with psvr.
So as of today, Vive or Occulus if I want to buy something? Please unbiased
>>247609275
Because the difference is probably not noticeable and it lets us run our games better?
>complaining about 80Hz when VRchat runs at 45fps on average if not less
>>247608880
It's pretty much the same price that a three sensor Rift setup has been since the last price drop.
>>247609354
this.
And async spacewarp is really good.
If these lenses are really, really good and rgb screen is really, really good, this thing could look better than the 599 hp headset even, with perfect tracking.
>>247609317
As of today, nothing has come out yet. Keep waiting. Also more news coming out of GDC as it's not over yet and Valve still has a presentation they're doing.
>>247609119
We must summon Gaben with our wallets to save the future of VR
https://youtu.be/vXpHvG9W6ew
>>247609317
Wait until GDC is actually finished
>>247609354
>45fps on average
God I wish. More like 11. I don't think I can sustain 90 FPS in any game, though. Even Beat Saber drops constantly.
>>247609392
but not at launch. Rift was like 700$ WITHOUT controllers.
This is courting the first time buyers. Tons of people are willing to drop 400$ for vr.
>>247609354
>implying VRChat is the only VR game I play
>>247582815
Cute! Not potato at all.
>>247609446
>saves PC
>saves VR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUo1PgKksgw
>>247609534
Rift launched at $399.99
>only have an oculus go
>can now afford to buy any system i want
LET ME BUY SOMETHING
https://uploadvr.com/oculus-rift-s-ipd/
>Basically, when it comes down to it, ultimately what we decided to do is go with this LCD panel, single LCD panel
literally 2DS
>>247609534
Doesn't matter, it's still basically the same price that it's already been for months.
>>247609598
anythring u want u say gweilo?
>>247609438
Probably not perfect tracking, but it'll be tons better than WMR tracking. Probably 80% as good as a 3 sensor Rift setup, which really isn't that bad. I'm honestly fine with that if it means no sensors anymore because that stuff taking up USB ports and snaking around my room isn't guchi.
>>247609582
https://youtu.be/nsBByTiKfyY
GOD FUCKING DAMN IT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>247609463
>>247609436
When does the GDC actually end?
>>247609876
23
>Rift S has 5 cameras
>Vive Cosmos only has 4
How can they hope to compete?
>>247609876
Friday
>S stands for Sucks
lmao
>just realized my only option is Vive if my Rift fails in the near future
>they're turning VR into something mobile instead of a peripheral thingie
shame, at least we got a good run with OR/Vive/Pro I guess.
>spring
>spring
WHEN
F8 maybe?
>>247609752
WMR tracking is already 80% as good as Rift tracking. The biggest issue is camera blind spots, but the Rift S won't completely fix that.
You'll still have blind spots below the headset, directly in front of the headset, and behind you.
>>247609036
>performance as low as they can go without noticeable difference in the experience
I'm guessing this is it. higher res x lower refresh = ~same pixel bandwidth for gpulets. I still don't get why though, when they have the quest as the option for people that don't have a proper gpu/computer to drive 90hz.
I'm an apologist for inside out tracking being practically a better experience than outside-in, but the refresh rate thing makes the rift s a really hard sell as an "upgrade" from the original.
>>247609593
with no controllers and only an xbox controller.
All I wanted was my Oculus Rift with better optics and a better screen. Was it so much to ask?
>>247610885
>Rift was like 700$ WITHOUT controllers
>>247610893
and FBT
>>247610372
>the future of desktop VR is hybrid setups of the remaining Gen 1 components that still work
>>247609957
wider fov cameras.
possibly fbt with cameras
Everyone who's used rift s and quest say the tracking is on par with vive or better.
>>247610372
Rift S isn't mobile. All of the changes they made from the OG Rift were done for cost or convenience.
>HTC take the lead
>not by being the better choice
>but by not being the worse choice
Someone needs to fucking stop them.
I would unironically pay $1500 for Valve headset if it could advance anything relevant while avoiding the mobile meme.
>>247610712
probably
>>247610372
John Carmack himself said if VR wants to have any hope of going truly mainstream, mobile VR must be better.
>>247611126
same, i'd even go a little beyond that if the specs were really spectacular and it came with all features
>>247611126
But then devs would be fucking nonexistent
Oculus is a necessary evil to get plebs into VR
>rift S has a camera on the top
>none at the bottom
which monkey made that decision? wouldn't you usually make way more movement close to your body and under the headset, than above? is this just meant to make it easier for small lolis to headpat upwards?
>>247611187
Fuck Carmack and fuck mainstream. I'm sticking to HTC if it be like this
So when is Vive Cosmos?
>>247611427
reminder that camera's don't just only watch straight down, they have a < shape pov
i think the tracking is probably pretty okay for the most part, but the fact that they sacrificed so much shit in other parts is what pisses me off
>>247611427
I would presume the cameras on the corners are for tracking movement below and around you. The camera on top is for stuff like behind-the-back motions.
>>247611427
Has there been any reviews/videos or anything testing it yet? I could see that if the bottom corner sensors are like 180 degree like the WMR cameras then they'll still cover the bottom pretty well, except for directly the headset and right in front of your face, which isn't too bad since you don't often place your controller that close to your mouth anyway.
>>247611582
On the bright side, they did tackle the USB bloat that people seemed to complain about. Now you only need the one USB 3.0 for Rift S, and its cord is longer compared to vanilla Rift.
>>247611427
It's way harder to lose tracking below the headset than above it since the cameras are sort of pointed down, but I would've added a camera on the bottom too.
>>247591229
She comes out very poor out box iiirc and doesnt work properly if using cats
>>247611496
Stick with whatever makes sense for you. People will be buying other things, and you, in fact, will benefit from them doing that, because the industry being successful means your niche high end devices also become more successful and get innovated on faster.
How hard is my ram gimping my rig at the moment, i got really outdated kingston ddr3 667mhz 2gb sticks x3 for 6gb total, should i just throw those to the bin and rack up ram with some newer ddr3?
Also how much ram should i stuff in a rig that has Intel Core i7 950 @ 3.07GHz?
>>247611710
>you don't often place your controller that close to your mouth anyway
yeah, about that...
You guys forgot about something important
What aboutnepbar?
>>247608880
90hz after playing games at 144hz is suffering as is.
>>247611897
Yep. Found her out onDiscord, didn't even bother after I've seen the colliders and dynbones. Wish boothcucks would just put a stats screen so I know not to bother.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vtryRHVg_I
hands on and interview about the rift s
>>247612002
BIN IT. You already need 8 GB minimum for VR, and if you can use DDR4, go for it.
>was planning on getting rid of my scuffed-ass rift for the new one
>quest is interesting but useless if you have a PC that can run actual VR
>rift S is literal garbage yet somehow more expensive than the first rift
>htc still doesn't have knux
>pimax is way too expensive
>valve's headset may or may not exist
I JUST WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON VR, WHY ARE YOU ALL MAKING THIS SO HARD
>>247612008
Unless you're using Oculus, that doesn't even make sense on the Vive. The donuts stick out way too far to be able to do "that" motion very successfully and they just bump into the headset.
>>247611187
I don't think they're going to get the smartphone audience without something VISOR tier compact. Normies want to be able to carry it everywhere.
I've yet to take the dive into VR, though I've been interested for a while, and Rift S seems like a pretty strong entry point. There's minimal setup, and it's not like I have a frame of reference for what other displays offer. Would I be wrong in going for it?
>>247612152
yes, i use oculus and it kinda works, but you can ofc hit he headset if you are not careful.
>>247612138
FUCK YOU GABEN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>247612302
Wait and see if Valve announce their headset
>>247611187
Carmack is just an emotionless computer on legs though
>>247612138
I'm just glad I managed to fix all the minor issues with my Rift before anything completely failed.
>>247612302
I'd wait a bit to see if tracking manages to work in your average scenario. I had some tracking problem yesterday with Vive for some reason (maybe one lighthouse moved, or maybe I introduced some reflective surface by moving my fan, I dunno, I fixed it in like 5 minutes) and it was pissing me a lot. It's a deal breaker if the tracking gets in the way of the game.
>>247612302
this >>247612371 , there's also the cosmos on the way but there is no release date, not even which quarter
>>247612071
Oh, if you have the unity package post itnhere so I can save money
>>247612302
Wait for reviews and other announcements. The rift S honestly probably going to be fine for new users. Most of us are salty just because it's not an obvious upgrade from the OG rift. Tradeoffs like easier setup fall flat when the zucc is already filming us from 3 angles.
Even after all these years these FOOLISH gamers place hope in Valve to save them
Perhaps this upcoming GDC nothingness will finally silence them
https://uploadvr.com/original-oculus-rift-future/
Oculus assures that vanilla Rift will not be deprecated.Yet.
>>247612741Can't be as bad as Season 5
>>247612524
Yeah, give me an hour or two and I'll find it again.
>>247612609
film this zucc!
*spreads anus towards camera*
>>247612770
https://uploadvr.com/oculus-quest-rift-studios/
https://uploadvr.com/rift-quest-cross-buy/
Oculus also wants their in-house devs to build for Rift S and Quest simultaneously, especially since they will now support cross-buy and cross-play for Rift S and Quest.
If no one else announces anything, Rift S will be the winrar of the VR market. The cons compared Rift aren't really as bad in practice as most think. Just wait for final product reviews.
>>247613025
i don't have a pc headset yet, so i'll be buying asap and do a shitter review
>>247613025
In terms of mass appeal, for sure
>>247607805
somebody shop in the nepbar portal logo into the lenses and something lewd on the sound waves, it'll make a good new thread OP.
>>247612770
There would be a big shitstorm if it was so obviously they won't do it soon. Probably when it gets to <1 percent of users, so it'll be a year or two at least I think. Don't expect anything more than that however. And no one should be using this shit for that long anyway, better headsets are coming out.
>>247612135
I think my current motherboard is limited to ddr3, but it does have triple-channel, 3x4GB 1866MHz should be good right?
bump limit
The head ring looks so fucking huge is it even possible to wear headphones over it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-8E4Nirh9s
I need those models.
>>247608657
Hes not wrong. The quest is actually doing something different in making the rift portable.
The rift s is just a plain dud that does nothing new, and is in fact, a step backwards in many ways
>>247612284
Actually, thinking about it more, AR glasses might be the smartphone replacement. They could do forward facing hand tracking, provide a HUD for web 2.0 shit, and render videos etc.
>>247613354
I can you show you how MSPaint works if you want to make even better
>>247610923
Rift came out at $600 WITHOUT the controllers and one sensor, and $200 for the controllers and one more sensor after they released it, and you need 3 or more sensors for proper roomscale.
This is $399 and you just jump right in. The price will very likely drop to $299 shortly, like in less than a year.
This will redpill many, many people on good enough headsets, and then valve will release the true gamer or prosumer option, likely at 599$ all in.
Cosmos will likely be 399 or 299 as well. It's going to be a good year for vr. Price is the only sticking point for most people and this is now solved.
>>247613367
They said repeatedly that Rift S is just a "refresh" or "incremental" improvement over the original. They're not making the Rift 2 yet, and the fact they're not is why the original head of Oculus left the company in the first place.
>>247612138
Better act soon then and get you a rift
>>247613367
The rift S is basically just oculus' new WMR headset. It was a mistake to call it "Rift S", they should've called it "Quest for PC" or some shit.
https://youtu.be/oIuNuOcUwG8
>>247613315
yes, psvr is quite nice, and is actually the most comfortable headband overall.
this is literally identically the psvr headband, which they got from lenovo, who licensed it from sony.
>>247613508
Hmm, you know, I wonder if that guy will be back in 2021 in time for the productization of Rift 2 launching in 2022/23.
I mean, assuming he's even useful at that point. Don't know how much skills he really has.
>>247613508
Anon, a refresh is supposed to have qol improvements. Sorta like how console refreshes usually get slimmer.
This is simply taking oculus, and making It wmr
>>247613354
That's adorable!
>>247613620
And the great thing about it is that it has a top strap. The PSVR strap isn't actually perfect, and can be either uncomfortable, or too "loose" for many people. Combining it with a top strap lets us have the best of both worlds. I've actually done a mod of this myself, before, and it does help, in my experience.
>>247613697
They're arguably improvements, just not for the enthusiast market.
>>247613697
>No external sensors, only needs one USB 3.0 jack
>Controllers had their sensors moved so the headset cameras can pick them up more easily
>Bigger screen to fix god rays and other issues
>Uses PSVR's headband
>Improved passthrough
If those aren't QoL changes, I'm not sure what is.
Rift S is better than the Rift in every way for the average person, except those on the very edge of IPD percentiles. For enthusiasts, it's still mostly better with almost little to no difference in the things that on paper seem worse.
>>247614009
The average person would buy a PSVR which supports 120hz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjGSMUep6_4
Post some easy to learn choreographies so I can realize my dream of being a cute dancing anime girl.
>>247614093
nobody takes psvr seriously except people who are firmly console gamers.
It's great for what it is and there's a wireless verison coming out
but pc vr is only ramping up and at 400 bucc it's a pretty big improvement.
>>247613907
Controllers are a downgrade imo. The ring on top is going to be far more obtrusive. Crenelations like on the Vive pucks would have been better.
>>247613697
>Sorta like how console refreshes usually get slimmer.
That's a good comparison, because people with the original console don't have any reason to get the refreshed version. There's nothing better enough about the rift s to make me want to pay another $400, but I can agree it's better for anybody just getting into VR.
>>247614093
Talking about comparisons between Rift and Rift S. Not saying what headset in general is the best for the average person (not that it would necessarily be PSVR anyway).
>No mechanical IPD
>80 hz
>LCD
How will I play pavlov? I can't grab gun off my back.
>>247614492
The guns will be on your arms
>>247614492
>I can't grab gun off my back.
What do you mean you can't. Even WMR fags can do it fine.
>>247614489
The blacks will actually be better because they won't be washed out by god rays
>>247614492
have a bro carry your guns
>>247614492
Rift S has a camera on top to assist with over-the-shoulder tracking.
is there a new thread?
>>247614658
And they won't have black smear, and they won't have such intense mura or "dirty screen effect". It'll be a fine trade-off, even if the contrast is in fact worse.
>That one guy complaining about being stuck to a wall in a ill-suited gungame Pavlov map
you made my day breh. It's one of those small things I'll remember for many days. God bless your soul
>>247614492
Everyone says behind-the-back motions work perfectly fine for Rift S. You probably have the camera on top of the headset to thank for that.
>>247614795
>black smear
You know that's fixable, right?
Were there any VRChat suicides yet? Hanging yourself seems like a good way to go if you don't knock the HMD off or the trackers in the process
>>247615008
We had that seizure
https://youtu.be/D3V0aw-ljEg
>>247615063
>all those desktoppers
>wide variety of random avatar types
man, the vrchat pubbie scene has changed
>>247615063
Confirmed fake
>>247615207
confirmed real
>>247614989
How so? If you're talking about the black smear correction on the Rift/Vive, that only goes so far. Black smear is still there.
>>247615184
What's it even like now? I just solo VR
>>247615476
Same 3 bases with OC donut steel re-colors, puke inducing shaders, fuckton of particles and mic spam.
>>247615063
>a guy is having a seizure
>lets draw attention to them and swarm them, it's the least we can do
>don't worry buddy, your seizure was not in vain i have it on my stream, now are you okay, can you say subscribe to my channel for more whacky content at #giggleballs666?
>knuckles move aside this man is creating me more content than your little catchphrases, have some humanity
>>247615712
t. Seizure Wendy
ok guys make a new thread.. i'm getting nervous..
>>247611582
>>247611772
Literally features of WMR headsets since day 1.
This is nothing but Occulus trying out the WMR way of doing things.
>>247615786
VR is dead now, Oculus killed it
>>247615786
I'll make a new thread, just let me finish with your VRfu
>>247615876
It's ok I like NTR
>>247612076
>Q: Why 80Hz for Rift S?
>A: (1.) 80Hz is still plenty immersive for VR. (2.) Because the screen is bigger, the refresh rate was knocked slightly in order to maintain the current minimum/recommended specs in place for vanilla Rift.
TP Cast just announced they will be show a new product that can stream video to the Quest over existing Wi-Fi making it a wireless PCVR.
Fuck rift S
https://www.tpcastvr.com/single-post/2019/01/08/TPCAST-Introduces-2nd-Generation-Wireless-VR-Solution-–-TPCAST-Air
%LOCALAPPDATA%\Oculus\Spud and replace the two files in there with junk files with the same name. I have run my Rift for months like this. The mura only exists due to a bug with these files.
>>247615785
Unfortunately i wasn't there, none of the people there had the common decency to shout the N-word with gustov and conviction to scatter the streamers, i am sorry robot man i could not save you from the cameraman...
guys i'm serious, make a new thread.. we're going to die..
>>247615936
I lied, I'm not making a new threadStill enjoying my time with your VRfu though
>>247616019
$400 + tpcast air = ???
>>247616079
Forgot the quote: >>247615346
>>247616080
>gustov
it's pronounced bravado
>>247616212
I just say pavlov
>>247616364
it's Pavlova
>>247616212
Achtually it's gusto, guess two wrongs don't make a right
>>247616350 (Cross-thread)
>>247616350 (Cross-thread)
>>247616350 (Cross-thread)
i forgot to change the edition edition
>>247616425
Desdenova
>>247616561
despacito
>>247616079
I already use that. The mura is massively reduced but it is still present. And you still get an amount of black smear. With fast switch LCD there is even less mura (on average), without any mura correction, and no black smear, without any black smear correction.
>>247616828
You have an actual defective display then. It should be perfectly black with SPUD overridden like that.
>>247615982
It's almost like upscaling from a lower resolution (like say, what the Rift screen uses) doesn't exist! It's a cop-out excuse.
>>247617951
I've used a 144 hz monitor for a few years and I can't readily distinguish between anything over about 75 Hz.
>>247613354
Purple>Brown>Blonde