/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #504

why did you change the op
i dont like change

>>248769329 (Cross-thread)
Looks like you are the target audience. Most of us aren't. Sacrificing everything for some convenience is a terrible prospect for me.

>cyubeVR's April 1st feature is
>Deer play a loud, elephant's trumpetting sound at random

>>248769329 (Cross-thread)
You guys dont have computers?
I have an gaming pc already,and plan was to buy the next good stuff that comes out. And that will probably be Valve Index after seeing the Occulus lineup.
All quest is gonna do is make you wish for more. If you think $400 is a lot of money, save up some more and try to take the next step.
Else your Quest will just remind you of what you are missing out on, like an Monkeys paw.
Or if you are a normie, you will have some fun and then the quest will collect dust. Cheap WMR is a way better entry point then quest right now if your pc can handle it.

>>248769421
this has been said a thousand times but the only way to get better PC headsets is to also have casualized ones. They need the normiebucks.

>>248769647
Unless it's still not accessible enough and causes them to come to the conclusion that VR just isn't profitable and development stagnates for years.

The term proteus effect was coined in 2007 by a team at Stanford. One of the researchers went on to write pic related.

Don't bother reading it, it's little more than an introduction to the demographics and behaviours of MMO players.

>>248769421
Basically this. I have no desire to use vr outside of my room or some privacy where I can at least assume no one is watching/able to see me. I know I look like a dickhead in vr and I'd rather not advertise that by taking it with me. A super portable life is not one I care about in regards to technology because I'd rather leave all that shit at home and get away from it occasionally. I'd get rid of my phone entirely if I didn't need it for work.

>>248769789
>>248769647
Case in point, my Dad bought Oculus Go, used it for a week, then gave up because it can't do anything.

>>248769789
>still not accessible enough
I can't think of anything more accessible than psvr and quest. If you mean price wise, I suppose that remains to be seen. It may be that the next generation of consoles come with it in a standard bundle.
>>248769872
it can run apps from their store. At this point there's a growing demographic that only understands app stores anyway.

>>248770153

>>248770153
>questionability of whether a full face device can possibly be portable
>limited library when one of the main complaints about vr is lack of games
>games which are going to be inherently limited by the hardware like beat saber and VRC
It's reminiscent of the video game crash.

>>248769647
The normies aren't going to give you your bucks anyway. PC headsets will evolve the same way PCs did, by relying on better features to push sales.

>>248769453
cyube anon why is there so much bloom in this game.

>people leave for pax
>certain types of shitposting stop completely
>theme song this is me poster stops posting

>>248769292 (OP)
>OP changed
Yikes

>>248771735
Now that you mention it, searching the last thread for certain names gave 0 matches.

>>248772040
it's funny isn't it

>>248771020
its a bloomers game

>>248771735
>>248772040
>the normies that go to irl meetups are the shitposters
Why am I not surprised?

>>248772040
some pattern vagueposts stopped too

When is the next irl meetup?

>>248769827
Im buying my protesfu's hoodie!

>>248772163
yea, that was me, Im bored of that an actually discuss VR nowadays, ask a janny, he banned me over 50 times probably.

Hint people that are proteused and in denial about it

Hintdrop your voicefu and your laughfu!

>>248772079
Hey thats my name you're talking about
I'm still here

>>248772769
myself

I hope Valve makes a solid fucking announcement in May just so I know should I fall for the Modmic+Wireless meme

>>248772205
In Europe later this year probably
Based on a quick crappy mental analysis of all the vrg anons I've met I predict it to be 2/3rds or 3/4ths euro with the rest coming from overseas with a soft max of 15 people for the first meet if the event it's based on is actually decent and has VR related stuff promised

Why PAX of all things?

>>248772864
if you promise me Ill lose my V-card one way or another Ill come too.

Name anons you don't want to see at an irl meetup.

>try out pavlov online
>literally 2 players in the entire world playing right now
and you guys joked contractors was a dead game

>>248772853
Their teaser is brilliantly done, hopefully the announcement will be too. These two things are all that they needed to say to start up the hype train.
>Insists that the Vive Pro and Rift S are not upgrades, which most of the enthusiast market agrees with. The Index will be an upgrade for the Vive and the Rift.
>The Index has an IPD slider, the Rift S does not.

>>248772939
desperate normalfags

>>248772939
Someone has a job being involved in PAX, so I guess the ease of access convinced the others.

>>248773035
I'm secretly hoping for nice hugs, being able to actually hold an anon to sleep with full body haptics, breathing sensations and body temperature instead of only seeing them lay beside me, like a ghost of a dream that isn't quite real.
You'll probably find some anon there to fugg you or to do the fugg to, although I think at most only half would be down for gay stuff and that would for most just involve slight touching while doing cuddles, very few would be in increasing order of likeliness be dtf, succ or jerk. The rest would be full straight the whole time

>>248773180
beta? Its middle of the fucking monday or whatever

>>248773604
I hope I meet J...

>>248773771
yeah i tried the beta
it feels bad that you can't get any vrg pavlov action at all unless you're NA or stay up very late as EU

>>248773895
T...

just having you guys talk about an eu meetup is making me anxious as fuck
please stop

>>248773604
FUCKING
Y I K E S
I
K
E
S

To that whole post the fuck is wrong with euros...

>>248774249
frog...

showscore

>>248769292 (OP)
>Post must be directly related to Virtual Reality. Do not flood the thread with discussions about VRChat users, meetups or 'relationships'.
This is what we're doing for april fools? Lame.

I hope everyone here has a nice day.

>>248773897
Ive managed to get a couple full lobbies at 2000 UTC or so, just shill your lobby beforehand and hope for some stray NA neets too.

janny please clean up these gay posts

>>248774249
we're all repressed and depressed! Hug me Anon! Huggy hug me one more time!

>>248775471
denied.

I thought april fools would make this thread a shitshow
well, a different kind of shitshow

ded

>>248777138
Why would anyone attention whore in here when they can attention whore ingame or irl

>>248778513
well now they got likes to fight for

Namedrop anons that are not allowed at the irl meetups.

>>248778797
Jelly

>>248778797
anyone not in socks

>>248778797
Unironically just Jelly and maybe Arrow

>>248769453

>>248778797
Jelly and Arrow for obvious reasons

>>248779448
this makes me laugh every time

** SOS ARENA **

Come on come all! A new dawn is coming.
Test your blade, bows, shields and magic in an arena like no other.
Where you will fight monsters made by your fellow /vrg/ members.
There will be enemies, bosses and much more.

Features of this VRchat map:
(1) Enemy pathfinds you wherever you go
(2) Enemy will always follow the closest person
(3) Enemy can attack melee, long range projectile, aoe area in a delayed attack, aoe barrage projectile and many more
(4) Weapon upgrades. Use a sword, dagger, hammer, spear, bow, long bow, magical staves and much more.
(5) Hard choices between healing items or more defensive equipment or offensive equipment for treasure chest spawns.
(6) <Place Future development here>

Note: If anyone wants to see their character with a basic set of humanoid fighting ability to mow down in the dozen be sure to SEND IT to any of your local SOS brigade member or reply here with a working fbx.
Note2: If you are highly interested in making a unique set of monster of your own please contact Yuki Nagato#2559 We will supply you with the prefab and instructions on how to make your own monsters

In this arena you can kill or be killed in the hundreds.
Are you strong enough to survive?
Is this not why you are here?
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

>tfw you just start to play Pavlov and people are wrecking you as you drop your gun and pull out your own mags while trying to grip
https://youtu.be/X5MMgnMIpG4

let's host a pavlov game right now!

>>248779954
ayyy, Occulus Rift or Vive? Give it a couple days and your mind will get used to gripping and grabbing.

>>248779954
>Play pavlov
>EU so have never used a gun
>Dont know I have to cock it
>It just clicks while bots pwn me on easy.

>>248772205
I'm going to Desucon 14-16th June. Probably just us Finns there tho just like last year

>tfw no yuki nagatofu

>>248780245
Rift, the aiming is harder than i thought on anything further than 5 meters have to actually keep your hands steady to hit jack
>>248780348
>*laughs in nordic*
Just look at what they do in CS:Go, you don't even have to do the magazine bend for rifles in Pavlov luckily and just have to remember the rule of "1 in and then you ding" and locate the pulling mechanism that feeds the first bullet from the mag to the barrel

>>248780348
Give H3VR a go. Meme safeties and all the gun sim youll ever need as a fellow EU

>>248779806
So far the monsters available as a teaser are the goblin army.
Goblin Mages
https://streamable.com/dzjwj
Goblin Archers
https://streamable.com/jbvrd
Gobbos and Wolves
https://streamable.com/qhatz

>>248780708
This doesn't look all that great so far. It is early tho, has promise I guess.

Also anyone have any thoughts on Orbus be the only vr mmorpg

>>248781008
>anyone have any thoughts on Orbus
It's garbage. I was hoping the upcoming Reborn update would help, but from what I've heard about the beta, it's not really much better than before.

>>248781335
Well that's disappointing. I really got into it during the beta but I could t get into it when it launched, was kinda hoping the exp would help. I think the lack of an interesting class to play doesn't help. I'm still confused as to why there is no melee dps

someone host a pavlov beta lobby, let's play!

https://youtu.be/oRG2jlQWCsY

>>248781682
Why can't you host it yourself?

>>248781934
i'm a noob with 2 hours played against bots

>>248781008
Wanna chip in the development?
>>248780708
>>248779806

Are cuatom runninganimations broken in vrchat? I added them to overideempty but they look like utter ahit in vrchat or just not works.

>>248781682
Nobody is going to play right now, fellow EU anon. Maybe try after 9PM or so.

>>248782872
guess i'll go shoot up some bots then...
too bad the AI is pants on head retarded

>>248779806
Posting some inside "How it is made" looks into the project.

>>248779806
Very interesting by the way. The way VRC triggers works is we had to have the damage receiver the "monster" be the one bound with how much damage they will receive on it rather than a statistics on the sword itself.

>>248783551
>>248784380
Very interesting project anons. Looks like it's going to be a fun game! Looking forward to trying it, I just hope it won't be laggy.

suck my cock /vrg/ for 1000 likes

>>248778931
>>248779527
Why are you spo Jelly of me? I'm going to the next IRL meetup and you can't stop me.

>>248779806
Remember when you joined off of that small group last night? Take what I said to heart, fuck off.

>>248780550
you do not want this, you willl regret it

Really makes me think, Jelly posting was non existant since the paxx niggers went to paxx, then all of a sudden a Yuki Nagato post and BAM two free jelly posts!

>>248778931
>>248779337
>>248779527
ive had it to to here with you niggers, you're tough cyber bullies right?
well lets meetup irl and fight mono e mono, see how tough you are attempting REAL bullying.
you can even bring a knife, but you're probably some pasty white kid with no reach or stabbing power, pathetic little pansy kid!

come on, where do you wanna meet? you can try bullying me for real!

>>248779337
>>248779527
I want to rub socks with arrow irl

>>248785505
it was three you tard

>>248784885
Thanks anon.
Map will be limited to 3 max 6 players in friends+
And monster count will be limited to 15 max simultaneous when possible.

Ok now this dagger here is interesting. We tried to make it so weapon types are balanced. Daggers have two colliders on them that hits the monsters twice if you stab them deeply enough.
So dagger's are pretty high dps though short in reach.

>>248779527
>>248779337
>>248778931
>>248779806
>>248784380
>>248786425
samefag

>>248779806
you know, when every single post before this one is a shitpost and then this isnt a new ip, and you try to pretend you ARENT a shitposter you accidentally tell a frightening story

>>248779806
Posting some more testing behind the scenes.
In this video you will see how the monster system "sees" or perceives the enemy.
In this system notice how you can get behind the enemy to get a poke if you are skilled enough.

https://streamable.com/f7t1o

>>248780550
They're taken.

>>248787004
Stop samefagging

>>248786853
>>248786672
Aight just replying here in case someone not familiar with the tactics of the thread goblin is reading.

Looking forward to playing with you guys on the map once we get things rolling. If anyone else has any questions, I'll reply as soon as possible. Heading to sleep soon. Goodnight /vrg/!

>>248787120
Yeah, because I'm the thread goblin, not you motherfucker who's been Jelly posting and false flagging while spreading malicious rumors in discord and VRChat for well over 6 fucking months now, you unironic sociopathic mother fucker.
Seriously consider offing yourself, you're the goblin mother fucker.

>>248787120
>thread goblin
Good nickname for Jelly

>>248787120

>>248787345
its a good nickname for people who come to the thread and samefag themselves in a positive light and then turn around and jelly post nonstop, seriously kill yourself

>>248787120
trying to prove your innocence just makes you look more guilty

>>248787527
because they arent innocent
>jelly posting dies down
>all of a sudden THREE(3) jelly posts
>SoS brigade starts posting
>tfw no yuki posting starts
seriously they can't even hide it

>>248786425
Is that the dagger you use to stab people in the back with?

>>248787481
Thread goblin, what’s got you so angry today?

>>248787735
I'm not a mirror

>>248787729
The thread goblin is sperging again.

>>248787663
They're the thread goblin posters too, which really makes me think.

>>248780708
Need a Thread Goblin there too

I'm the goblin slayer, and you thread goblins are dead, slimey green hobbit looking fucks.

>>248787987
why so they can kill themselves?

Someone should add an explanation of all this /vrg/ drama in the fucking pastebin.

imagine, you're sitting at the pc. you're making a cool unity project for /vrg/ to enjoy. you are proud. someone calls you a nigger for it, and all of a sudden all you can think about is an autistic neet. imagine, you feel so riled you call them a thread goblin.


goblin hunter, you just became a goblin yourself
t. jelly THIS braaaap

>>248788053
Lol it’s cute seeing the retard try to deflect.Thread goblin is a good name for you.

goblins gobbing goblins
4chan

Everyone was having a nice day, the birds were singing, the operators waiting to get home and then some funny guy thought it would be ok to pull down their pants and pinch a big doo doo loaf in the mens urinal mmkay, that is not appropriate thread behavior, we live in a society people and when someone does that it makes the nice and comfy morning atmos into one of "yep, here we go again" mmkay? No doo doo loafs in the males urinals mmkay?

>>248788332
Seriously. if you call someone "the retard" you're a goblin yourself. Not cool, dude. Cyber bullyings not cool.

just plugged in my trackers to charge them and one of the leds is white, what does this mean? normally it's always blue or orange
i haven't done the latest firmware so it can't be led fix either

>>248788414
Okay, now why don't you put your helmet back on before you hurt yourself more, goblin?

>>248788469
go away, we're jelly posting

>>248788469
white means fully charged

Usually they don't do that because the firmware is shit. The new firmware supposedly fixes it.

Stop lingering in the past, Arrow!

Has anyone here used Skyrim VR but with just a basic controller? like not the sticks but a dual shock or 360?

I want the looking around experience but I hate the way the motion sticks operate. Does the visual turn into that shitty theatre mode or does it stay 360*? Also is it good?

>>248788450
You’re on 4chan and you’re officially a retard according to the US government anyways.

>>248788631
ah okay i hadn't noticed it before, thanks

>>248788640
You're on discord and you're officially a retard according to the 4chan council anyways.

>>248788640
indirectly t. jellying is still t. jellying retard just stop its been over a fucking year now, go smoke some heroine or some shit jesus christ anything but this insane bullshit

>>248788632
Fuck off

>>248788632
stop arrow posting its been 2 years

>>248788524
Only time i wear a helmet is when i'm dropping mags and missing knives mmkay, your inappropriate behavior is making the thread amtos sour and bitter mmkay, if your going to doo doo post at least make it untargeted and funny mmkay? Its like you arent even aiming to give the m8s a good chuckle and are just big ol meany mmkay?

>>248788632
new drama?

>>248788841
Then why are you banned from 8 places? Permanently?

>>248788414
yeh fukc cyber bullyes

we should make a small green goblin shinobu get it it'd be funny but its too funny for me i think dal290 should be commisioned for this, hes the tard executioner anyway and is hilarious and good at making memes

>>248788801
Then, farewell...

there's too many men...
too many people...
making too many problems...

>>248789379
>all of this jelly posting
>pretending to unban him with a fake alt as "april fools"
you guys really are a bunch of socially stunted sociopaths, aren't ya?

>>248788638
VR with no hand controllers is a tough sell for me. Never did try that. And you should just bite the bullet and buy one with a decent hand controller.

>>248789324
The retard is permabanned from 4chan so he gets hit faster than others for evading.

is there kemono friends tonight?

>>248789880
More like insider jannies are probably Jelly posters

>>248790004
The report button is a like button, right?

>>248790081
bananers samefag shitposts all the fucking time though, more virtue signalling discord posting by the shitposters themselves
they also reported everything but the initial jelly posting too

>>248790081
he only "cares about thread quality" because half of the time it's putting him in a negative light

>>248790081
Holy shit.
I've only been reporting posts one at a time and I give up halfway through the thread.
This is a game changer.

>>248790081
Does it actually work? I thought you needed a 4chan pass to report quicker

>>248790081
bananers "just because i have a job and a social life doesn't mean im a normie"

>>248788632
Why post this in the thread and not in dm?

>>248790959
You know, you'd think after all this time you'd get one angry DM from shitposters. The closest I've gotten are random blocks from people who've rarely interacted with me or not at all.

Not a single fucking face to face confrontation. All of it's subversive garbage.

>>248790959
Because you went silent, coward...

>>248791209
it's because you're a creepy fucking stalker who records anything and everything to publicly use against the person that pisses you off

>>248791490
Or maybe you're the creepy stalker google searching anons names digging up dirt on them from god knows how long and then going to post this.

I say it again... Stop lingering on your god damn past!

... just stop

>>248791947
Then stop lingering on mine. It's time to move on.

>>248791643
How exactly is this relevant to what I just said?
Your claim doesn't respond to mine in any way or form and you're only making it to divert attention away from me making a valid point.

>>248788469
Kind of funny that you interpreted trackers functioning correctly for the first time to be an error.

>>248792141
lolno you had 5 years to stop

you guys are worse than high school girls
reevaluate your lives

>>248792186
How specifically is this relevant to what I just said?
Your claim doesn't respond to mine in any way or form and you're only making it to divert attention away from me making a valid point.

Imagine being a ponyfucker with a fat fetish and a facebook page with your username where you draw ponies

>>248792228
Fuck off, anon. Not your business.

>>248792314
better than being (You) who hides who they are 24/7 because hes a betamale cuck

>>248791612
nobody would miss arrow if he left, while people want faith to come back

>>248792381
I don't miss faith but I sure as hell want arrow to fuck off

Anton added the meme. Interestingly he actually acknowledged 4chan.

https://youtu.be/kTNUOdIG4P0

>>248792314
Sad thing is he's a server admin or some crazy IT shit so he probably makes more money than you could ever hope for

>>248792381
I would miss him! But I just want him to forget his god damn past!

>>248792381
Imagine being this mean for no good reason. baka desu senpai

Is Rift S even SteamVR compatible?

>>248778931
>>248786025
>>248779337
Bananers, why didn't you report these?
Checkmate.

remember the future

>Jelly wakes up
>thread goes to shit
every time

>>248793168
jellys up 24/7
threads shit 24/7
coincidence?
yes

.

>>248793006
Yes, it's meant to be the "successor" to the original rift. It's basically the lenovo explorer 2, so it'll be steamvr compatible.

>>248793168
>>248793369

Your fortune: Average Luck

>>248793510
I thought you were talking about someone else.

>>248779806
>using vpn to mass like your own post

>>248788961
I am not banned from any place currently and i only tend to get slap on the wrists bans for misconduct for short periods when i get too vocal with my opinions, i am a good bean but i tend to garner ill will towards me because i am a lover of truth

>>248793993
>perma bans
>short
ok goblin

>>248781335
>>248781681
Played the open beta for a few hours yesterday and it's just very boring and bland. I really thought I'd like it but the quests are just grinding and the world other than the starting location just feels very empty and lonely

>>248793531
Fuck off mugen, with your fortune-telling shit. Manipulating almost every innocent person here in vrg

>>248794141
I'm not mugen though

Your fortune: Outlook good

Can we have separate /vrg/ and /vrcg/ please? Tranny ERP and schoolyard gossip drama bullshit has really nothing to do with VR.

VALVE INDEX:

has some new kind of dual lens optic which Valve considers a system-defining feature
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/bf/96/3e/a6a94ed8109fd1/US20180081092A1.pdf
good luck figuring out what for, from the deliberately obtuse patent

generally improved quality (reduced lens optical artifacts and aberrations)?
wider 'sweet spot'?
wider FOV than would be otherwise possible?
some kind of optical fixed foveation (lower pixel density at the peripheral, larger at the center)?
some kind of varifocal capability?

>>248794384
I'm looking forward to Jay and Silentboh VR, I hope it's neat!

>>248794059
https://youtu.be/FfGwSSpr8Uc

>>248794384
Can we have separate /vrg/ and /vrcg/ please? Tranny ERP and schoolyard gossip drama bullshit has really nothing to do with VR.

VALVE INDEX:

Recent unverified leaks seem to confirm 1440x1600 displays. Other people are interpreting it to confirm it's https://www.j-display.com/english/news/2018/20180510.html specific panels (1920x2160 or 2160x2432), but it seems like wishful thinking. They're ignoring that even the original Vive has a baseline supersampling applied, where its '100%' setting is actually ~140% of the true panel resolution - when this is considered for the current supposed leak, it gives a perfect 1440x1600 result. There's also doubt of if the display control chip seen in the leak can handle the higher resolutions.

>>248794384
There was some discussion last thread (and on r*ddit). I think the consensus is they've probably reduced SDE to almost invisibility, and likely a 130deg+ FOV. I doubt we'll see eye tracking by default (maybe an experimental module), and thus no varifocal/foeveated rendering. It'll be exciting for sure and very likely my next headset after the rift, but still not quite gen 2 territory by my criteria.

jelly is smelly
like this post if you agree

jelly is cute!
like this post if you agree

>>248794868
>>248794384
The posts you're complaining about are shitposts and should be reported and deleted. They are not impetus for a thread split and they would be shitposting in either thread.

>>248794868
what does this mean in terms of improvement over the other current headsets? how much better (or equal?) would it be?

>>248794868
That's the same aspect ratio as current headsets. If it's 135 degrees as everyone expects, the vertical FOV would be almost complete.

Why is Jelly and Arrow getting shitposted constantly?

>>248795730
nothing ever gets deleted when i report it so i shitpost back

>>248796116
people hate them, simple really

showscore

>>248796116
A handful of autists have major problems with them. Many haven't even met them but believe they must be terrible because they see shitposts about them. Many of the Discord members dislike Jelly because he argues with them. The reasons are always poor if not made up entirely.

What's the best way to get a desktop into VR for in between shootan or whatever?
OVRdrop seems kind of jank

>>248796116
I just assume it's samefagging
This is not an easy general to lurk tbqh

>>248796116
Because faggots like you have no future and grow like parasites into this thread, compensating your fear of your sad unfulfilled life by shitposting known actors of this cursed community.

>>248793069
Sleep?
Work?

>>248794868
I think the Valve Index is gonna blow the competition away. Havent been this hyped for something since Tesla Model 3.

>>248797282
Don't count chickens before they hatch, no specs or price yet.
Although with the track record of the steam controller it's not an unsafe bet.

>>248797406
It's better then anything from Occulus or Vive probably(Not counting pro, expensive)
Pretty much hoping Valve will deliver,and yeah, they have a pretty good track record.
Good screens, 135FOV and knuckles and it's a buy for me.
Still fun speculating, what will the expansion slot in the front be used for?

will index be wireless
foveated eye tracking(maybe face)
and less than 700

Your fortune: Reply hazy, try again

>>248797894
i hope its 500 for a new HMD knuckles and lighthouses ill shelve my duct taped rift and save up for it
>>248797923
reroll


Your fortune: Outlook good

>>248797923
No
No
Yes.

>>248798236
its already confirmed wireless
see:tpcast

>>248797989
500 is probably too low. How much was Vive when it released? Like 800 if I remember rightly.

>>248798345
800 is far too much for a consumer VR headset, look at the new oculus prices for real prices. dont look towards vive crap pricing for reference, valves competing with reduced vive prices and new oculus prices alongside those WMR headsets, theres a TON of competition

Cutely commemorating the fallen! Whatever commormoration means! I hope it's cute, like me!

>>248798309
Tellme more...
Sounds like super wishful thinking.

>>248793135
Good song

>>248798718
tpcast will at the very least make a version compatible with it, they even have one for the vive and rift. rift has no official adapter, vive does.

>>248798478
I think they're relying on being significantly better, rather that competing on price.

>>248798875
Yeah most likely, but not out of the box.

>>248798954
higher fov and a better screen is NOT significantly better
knuckles are barely an improvement on touch controllers and will be sold alone as well obviously.

>have to wait a whole month

>>248798478
Valve doesn't compete.

>>248799109
>higher fov and a better screen is NOT significantly better
uh yes it is
can't shitpost on gen 1 hardware

>>248799080
if it has the same connector it probably will, with slight modifications
>>248799129
yes they do
xbox controllers are 50 dollars
steam controllers 50 dollars
steam controller has better built quality software features and is a better controller, with 2 trackpads(not vive tier VALVE tier) and gyroscopic aiming
so yes valve competes

>>248799254
But it is.

Rolled 3 (1d6)

reminder that 2060's dont cost 300 dollars more than current 1060s
cmon guys you know consumerism and advancing manufacturing techniques

>>248799257
what i mean is, i don't think they care how steam controllers sell. They gave away steam links for $5, just cause. They make better stuff and set the prices. They make other companies compete.

>>248799906
what makes you think theyll just start different hardware selling practices now? steam controller market was bigger and more potential profit than the index will be

>>248797923
Optional adapter.
Not a chance, kek.
Only if they don't want to milk the whales who would eagerly pay anything.

>>248797894
It'll be used for smellovision.

>>248798478
Oculus was 800 when the touch controllers came out.

>>248800053
>Optional adapter.
>Not a chance, kek.
https://www.tpcastvr.com/store
>Oculus was 800 when the touch controllers came out.
now its 350

>It'll be used for smellovision.
kys yourself

>>248800228
What part of your link is supposed to be showing foveated rendering with eye tracking and face tracking?

>>248800053
>>248800228
what do you guys get from being right?

>>248800567
how would foveated eye tracking be an adapter? obviously you were referring to the wireless adapter bit

Playing pavlov and other actual vr games has really made me realize how stupid and boring interacting with most people in VRC really is.

You just have to ask yourself what you are really wasting your time doing.

>>248800719
affordable GOOD hardware

>>248800950
>You just have to ask yourself what you are really wasting your time doing.
i asked myself this in college and dropped out
nihilism
everythings a waste of time
all we exist to do is waste time

>>248800725
>obviously you were referring to the wireless adapter bit
How the fuck is explicitly replying to "foveated eye tracking(maybe face)" with a separate line supposed to be referring to the wireless adapter I already explicitly mentioned in the first line above that, you backpedaling piece of shit? Do you not see the three separate lines in the post I replied to?

>>248801184
this is the post chain, maybe you meant to type that or thought it but didnt specify with your finger voice boxes

>>248797989
>>248798345
>>248798478
it will be priced competitively to other HMDs / VR systems, which today means $300-600, $700 at most. Valve has done a lot of work on reducing the cost of VR, eg. making LCD better, performance enhancements in SteamVR API, and SteamVR 2.0 which is all about slashing the cost of production for the base stations (by enormously cutting the internal components) and sensors (by making them mass-produced ASICs from Triad Semiconductor). HTCs pricing is entirely arbitrary, always too high, and difficult to figure actual manufacturing costs from.

It will also be sold entirely piecemeal, so anyone with existing SteamVR setups can just keep their current lighthouses, or even just buy the knuckles if they don't care for an HMD upgrade.

>>248797923
yes (by an add-on)
maybe
almost surely

>>248795783
1440x1600 is the current 'standard' display resolution. Basically just the OG Rift and Vive were a bit lower, and all the WMRs and later HMDs have been the new standard 1440x1600. There is one announced WMR with 2kx2k screens (the HP Reverb), and there is the Pimax family of full-FOV HMDs with significantly higher resolutions. In general FOV and general image quality/clarity are a direct tradeoff, so the Indexes reported 135/150 FOV (vs ~110 being the general standard so far) may make it look nominally worse. But then it also apparently has some kind of special new optics, so who the fuck knows?

What on earth do you need to send in the discord welcome to join?
I have never joined a discord before in the fashion

>>248801280
You just posted a screenshot proving yourself wrong. 3 separate lines right there in >>248797923 and 3 separate lines in the reply.

>>248801575
Fuck off ban evader thread goblin

>>248801618
You replied without explicitly saying you were replying to the foveated rendering part, go to bed you drunk

>>248801740
Once again, there's 3 separate lines explicitly matching up to the original post's separate lines right there in your screenshot. And how do you fit the last line about whales into your nonsense?

will someone be hosting kemono friends today?

>>248802068
The first line in my post was about index being wireless.
Wireless has a track record of having adapters
foveated/eyetracking adapters do not exist.

You did not explicitly specify which part of the post you replied to
Go to bed.

New Nepbar has an interesting photo framed in one of the rooms

showscore
in options field

>>248802332
I explicitly used 3 separate lines matching the original's lines. There's no ambiguity here, you illiterate faggot, anything referring to the same topic would be on the same line. >>248801430 did the same thing, so go complain about how he has three different answers to the wireless question according to you.

And what do you think the third line was referring to?

shut the fuck up you fucking autists

>>248794868
>Recent unverified leaks seem to confirm 1440x1600 displays.

Besides the math working I don't think this theory makes much sense considering what we've seen the leaks. Under Eye Tube you have two boxes for JDI and BOE which would indicate they're testing these two displays. The one you linked and https://www.boe.com/en/product/xsqj/xnxs/vr-ar/

If they were using 1440x1600 res why wouldn't they just used the already mass produced and tested Samsung OLEDs in the Vive Pro? Maybe this is just wishful thinking.

>>248802932
your post read like
Optional adapter,not a chance kek

>>248800567
>>248800725
>>248801184
>>248801280
>>248801618
>>248801740
>>248802068
>>248802332
Both of you kill yourselves immediately, you autistic retards.

VALVE INDEX:

Has a weird transparent plastic cover not seen in the old leaks. Crazy theory: LIFI 'antenna' for the wireless module, which slots into the large open expansion port. (Yes, really it's surely just aesthetic design).

>>248801430
Most WMRs use 1440x1440. Rift S is 1280x1440. 1600+ isn't standard yet.

>>248803152
No, it had separate lines, you shitposting fuck.

>>248803796
okay goblin

>>248803427
What if the front is a lighthouse?

Newish VR user here, been lurking in this thread a bit but never checked out the discord. I showed up to watch anime at a meetup once but doubt anyone would remember me since I go mute.
I’m kind of interested in acquiring models for using in vrc and sharing some myself. Is the discord any good for that or would it be wasted time to seek an invitation to it?

>>248804029
Im also been speculating this.
It will not ship with lighthouse cubes, but use an lighthouse in the expansion slot for inside out tracking.
LH cubes sold seperately.

>be me
>at work
>girl knows i have VR
>tell her about phantom touch
>she wants to try VR
>devilish idea
>setup an animation i tracked myself with kinect
>bring her over
>load up mocumocudance
>tell her is she focuses she'll REALLY start to feel it
>synch myself up with the animations
>feel her tiddues but and vagina
>get away with it
>tomorrow at work shes telling everyone about how amazing VR is
>get weird looks from the rest of my co workers
worth it

>>248804106
Stop trying to ban evade

>>248804106
Pro tip dont sound like a redditfag within your first sentence.

>>248804268
Would that even work? It would need to bounce the laser back into the HMD sensors which would be too dependent on environment if it's even possible.

>>248804443
>feel her tiddues but and vagina
lmao faggot

>>248804607
see ya later, virgin

>>248804553
yeah pretend like you're from my little pony friendship is magic politically themed chan board instead

>>248804559
Thats one of the issues with that speculation.
Im just exploring possibilites that LH cubes will not be in the package to make it more affordable.

>>248804443

>>248794384
Please do this >>248790081
I will also when I get to my lunch break.

>>248804783
Fuck you, that's not even what I asked. Screw off.

>>248804268
As crazy as it sounds, if the slot lighthouse can be removed and put in a corner when necessary, the inherent line of sight issue could be fixed. The main bundle would probably ship with at least one cube anyway, but Gabe already said they'll sell piecemeal too.

I don't expect this to happen, but it doesn't seem impossible to build unless the lighthouse internals can't handle the movement from being on a headset.

>>248804106
Discords are always for faggots.

>>248805081
My 1st gen basestations rumble quite a bit but I'd be more worried about the weight too. I don't know how compact or lightweight you can make those hard drive motors. It would probably need to use an entirely new system

>>248804106
The discord has channels for assest(lots of avatar downloads shared there). There are also blender and unity channels. We have some of the most skilled content creators in vrc who can help you.

>>248803131
I'm sure JDI and BOE both make lower resolution displays suitable for VR, as well, right? the 2.5K crazy resolution would be nice but I'm keeping my expectations for raw specs low. I think Valve wants this to be an affordable entry to lighthouse tracked VR, the true replacement for the by-now nearly entirely obsolete OG Vive (which only remains relevant at all entirely by being the only reasonably priced SteamVR HMD). I think they can probably actually make a SteamVR 2.0 HMD with a 1440x1600 LCD panel for cheaper than the SteamVR 1.0 (which they're even still making the 1.0 type lighthouses for...), 1080×1200 OLED Vive.

>>248804106
Im unsure if this is a shitpost or not. But if not, join the discord, as
>>248805659
Wrote.

>>248769292 (OP)
what games are actually worth purchasing for oculus? havent touched mine in a month or two, might just use for virtual desktop idk

>>248799109
>higher fov and a better screen is NOT significantly better
This study found that maximum presence was achieved somewhere between 100 and 140 degrees FOV. Binocular vision covers 120 degrees, so this may be the cause of this effect. So 135 degrees is more than just 20 degrees extra on each side.
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/996519

>>248805780
Remember valve also has some patents on eye tracking which enables foviated rendering.

Early pavlov BETA (NA)
host: Synti
pin: 1669

>>248805780
I couldn't find a JDI panel that would fit but BOE makes this one

https://www.smart-prototyping.com/Display-for-Project-North-Star-3_5inch-1440x1600-pixels

Runs at 120hz

>>248805659
Useful response appreciated, thank you.
As far as joining the discord, should I just go to another meetup and ask there for an invite?

>>248805887
Beat Saber
Pavlov
Eleven
Assetto Corsa
SUPERHOT is worth getting too if it's on sale

>>248807613
Discord is in the pastebin a few threads back.

>>248805887
You can use Steam, you know.

>>248805245
I bet that you are also a faggot, faggot.

>>248807613
>>248807834
It's in the intro pastebin in the OP.

>>248807970
Oh, they added it back in.

>>248804029
>>248804268
it would have to be an all-new type of solid-state lighthouse, and it's a (bad) solution begging a problem. daisy-chaining positional tracking solutions in this manner just compounds their deficiencies, and lighthouse tracking is all about being 'perfect' (which it really is). it doesn't make any sense for Valve to throw away their top selling point like that.

>>248804559
it wouldn't work. the lighthouses have to be stationary. the tracking works by their being fixed landmarks, and they have spinning rotors in them which can't be moved at all, in operation. it's totally retarded shit from people who don't understand how lighthouse works.

the desperate desire for Index to be a WMR-style inside-out HMD just confuses me. hanging a couple fucking speaker mounts is not the end of the fucking world, jesus christ. I also wouldn't be surprised if Valve made some no-residue adhesive mount just to shut the retards up about it (maybe a mount with surfaces to stick to both walls and the ceiling, in a corner).

>>248808204
Good post.
You have any speculation what they might put in the expansion slot?

So glad those NA apes have finally come to terms with their savagery and just want to kill each other in shooting games.

Now we can finally have some peace and just touch cute girls all day.

>>248804443
Didn't happen. I made the mistake of mentioning phantom sensations to a coworker. I realized I sounded insane before they reacted and acted like I'd described it wrong and downplayed it as just immersive.

>>248808738
>not liking both
I see similarities in personality between games in everyone but Mushy. They're like a psychopath in FPS but cute and harmless in VRC. Highly susceptible to proteus.

>>248808413
wireless module is by far the most likely, if it's specifically for anything. maybe an SOC for true standalone operation (with or without additional cameras for better inside-out CV tracking). people keep saying it's for leapmotion but there's no way they're not already doing their own CV hand tracking off the built in dual cameras. a powered fan add-on for cooling / anti-sweat. novelty LCD screen which displays the wearers eyes based on the eye-tracking (or avatars thereof).

I can't believe I just fucked someone's vrfu

>>248812191
Did you cum inside?

>>248812191
Have fun. I don't need them anymore.

>LCD
It's okay when Valve does it.

>>248812191
I can't believe I was at pax and missed seeing vrg in person

>>248812191
wtf I trusted you

>>248809583
This is the attitude all of us should take.
Godly skill in shootin game, godly cuteness in social game. I really envy those that have seemed to master both.

>>248772205
Sakuracon in two weeks

>>248813132
Few people are actually good at anything.

For the first time in ages I'm excited about new VR tech. If the index has a better fov than the rift and is at least as comfortable I'm basically sold, and at that point I might as well get knuckles as well. As far as playing Rift store exclusives, theres that one third party software right? Even if it doesn't work with index and shit I'll still have an Oculus. When were they planning on releasing more information or the headset itself?

>>248813768
May, apparently. And yeah, revive will likely continue to work, and be better compatibility with knuckles since you have the actual joysticks.

>>248812390
Everyone is moving to LCD, based on intensive R&D by in how to make LCD better for VR (including significant contributions from Valve). All OLED really has over LCD, now, is its perfect black levels. And in contrast LCD is more consistent (less burn-in, per-pixel color variance, dead pixels, etc.) and tends to have much better subpixel arrangements (for VR). And is like half the cost.

The perfect blacks are enormously appealing (especially in VR), and there are still OLED screens being made, but they're quickly becoming more of a niche option. Frankly OLED in general is probably doomed as LCD zoned backlighting continues advancing.

Reminder that friends who do irl meetups and rub VRsocks together will have stronger bonds as friends than you who doesn't go to irl meetups. Sorry, you're out of the inner circle.

>>248814058
May? I feel like we barely know anything about this headset and its available to purchase within the next 2 months? Holy shit what. That probably meams new information soon holy shit this is awesome.

>>248813768
I'm getting pretty desperate for a replacement. My Rift is wearing out, SteamVR is running worse and worse with Oculus becoming more bloated, the hybrid trackers set up is a hassle, and I'm getting limited by Beat Saber tracking. I considered Pimax knuckles and a Vive pro as it looked like Valve weren't releasing anything any time soon. I just hope the May announcement isn't the start of a year long wait.

>>248814485
>available for purchase
I'm expecting q3 at the earliest for actual purchase, may is when they'll presumably reveal more than just a promo image
https://store.steampowered.com/sale/valve_index/

Could be even q4, since, you know, it's still fucking valve.

>>248814481
Was it worth replacing your mental image with a man?

>>248808932
theres videos online showcasin phantom touch without vr you virgin
learn to explain better

>>248812191
namedrop

>>248814860
Put an end to that common sense I want the index and I want it now

>>248812390
FUCK OLED AND FUCK BLACKS

>>248813579
this is a copepost.
you and everyone who liked this post are just failures for human beings.

>>248813579
Few people are talented. Anybody can be skilled if they're not a bitch nigger.

>>248812390
Personally, my deal breaker on the Rift S is no hardware IPD.
It's unacceptable. The colors and blacks on the LCD WMRs I've used have been fine, even the inside out tracking was good, but the fixed IPD ruined the experience on them.

>>248815315
Failure is human.
>>248815453
Delusions of control. Enjoy the eventual crushing realization that you cannot do whatever you want. That you are constrained by your biology. Maybe you just dismiss anything you've failed at as unworthy of your time. That's not a bad strategy until you become are of it.

>>248814485
>>248814860
They're aiming for having it shipping on order in May. They WILL be doing a full reveal blowout in May, and making it available for order at that time, but are leaving themselves wiggle room for how much of a delay between the reveal/order and shipping there will be. They didn't plan to do any advance teaser like this but couldn't pass up the chance to flex on Facebook over the Rift S debacle, and felt they should respond to core fanbase criticism over their lack of anything at GDC.

>>248815837
Enjoy being the worst you can be instead of finding your skill ceiling faggot. Suck on my fermenting nuts when I die. I'll have actually enjoyed the trip

>>248816191
You presume that just because I'm aware that I'm a complete failure in every regard that I don't still try.

friendly reminder Onward is coming to quest
https://youtu.be/WDihUPFty9I?t=118

>>248812191
tfw I know who it is

>>248815790
I'm outside the IPD range of the Rift S so it's not even an option. I think the only reason they got rid of the hardware adjustment is that most people don't actually know what IPD is or why it's important.

>>248816562
kek the game runs like shit on some maps to the point a group of us wanted to make onward great again, so we went to the dev with helpful well administrated advice and some of us were banned

is there kemono friends tonight or not

>>248818431
no, I think the plan is to watch all 3 episodes next monday

>>248816980
Thats probably why they are remaking all the 3D models and maps, so that it runs better and they have fitting low poly models for a quest version

>>248818431
Real life meet ups are more important than your Chinese girl cartoons.

>>248818646
their grass physics kills performance and theirs questionable things about LODs particles and full dynamic lighting

HAPPENING JUNE 15TH

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1059530/Valve_Index_Headset/?cc=us

>>248819361

>>248819361
I'm not sure if this is real or just Valve fucking with us because of April Fools...

PD: Fuck whoever got my ISP range unable to upload files

>>248819361
Oh shit it's just the headset.

>>248819361
>Controllers, https://store.steampowered.com/app/1059570/Base Stations, and PC required.

headset only? rip

>>248819361
Includes:
Headset
Integrated Headphones
Tether with DisplayPort 1.2 and USB 3.0 Connections
Power Adapter
Regionalized Power Adapter Plug(s)
2 Face Gaskets (narrow and wide)
Cleaning Cloth

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1059550/Valve_Index_Controllers/
Includes:
2 Controllers, Left and Right
2 USB Charging Cables
Cleaning Cloth

>>248819753
It's real, this url went up a couple days ago too and they all match the leaks. https://store.steampowered.com/sale/valve_index/

>>248819361
o__o

>>248819871
gabe already confirmed in emails that there would be bundles. This is actually better so you can upgrade in increments. Like going for knuckles before the index

>>248819361
Minimum: Windows 10
Time to update 7-lets

>Displays. Optics. Audio. Ergo.Experience the infinite virtual worlds of Valve Index. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Ut in orci nec magna pulvinar sagittis. Aenean ac ex feugiat, ullamcorper ligula aliquam, volutpat felis. Morbi sed turpis in purus lobortis tincidunt.
what does it mean?

>>248820181
"Lorem ipsum etc..." is just placeholder text

>>248820181
Filler text
OR IS IT

>>248820130

>>248820181
It means someone didn't finish the website and hit the wrong button.

>>248820181
>Lorem ipsum
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorem_ipsum
n publishing and graphic design, Lorem ipsum is a placeholder text commonly used to demonstrate the visual form of a document without relying on meaningful content (also called greeking). Replacing the actual content with placeholder text allows designers to design the form of the content before the content itself has been produced.

>>248820327
Namedrop VR games that work on Linux

>>248819361
screenshot of the store page

>>248820526
Half-Life 3

>>248820130
Based
Hipster 7tards finna get left behind

>>248819361
why can i not view the link? it just redirects to home page

>>248821328
They just took it down, here's a screengrab of the main page at least >>248820637
other pages didn't have much info yet

>>248821328
disable javascript

>>248821328
Valve deleted it when it was posted on >Reddit

https://www.pcgamer.com/valves-vr-headset-will-ship-in-june-according-to-unfinished-steam-page/

>>248821425
>They just took it down
wew actually a leak
I sure hope someone got fired for THAT blunder

>>248820637
>DisplayPort 1.2
Hmm, the Vive supported both DisplayPort and HDMI

>>248820637
There was also a store page for the "Valve Index Controllers", which are presumably the final version of the Knuckle controllers.

>>248822126
The entire reason virtuallink exists is HMD makers wanting to continue pretending to offer multiple input options, without having to pay the HDMI royalties.

>>248822126
just use an adapter

>>248819870
>>248819871
It's very clearly a placeholder page. I wouldn't take anything too seriously, they're supposed to be offering bundles as well. Valve would be fucking retarded not to launch with knuckles and they know it, but it would be fine to sell the headset as a standalone in addition to bundles.

>>248819361
Is it still April 1st, huh?

>>248822250
Valve needs to stop pointlessly changing their product names as they come out of beta. "knuckles" and "lighthouse" are both much better than "Valve Index Controller" and "SteamVR Tracking"/"Base Station".

>>248822569
it's not fake, headset teaser was posted a few days ago

>>248822569
Funny, you showing up on this day in particular

>>248822636
More shit to copyright maybe?

>>248822702
Fuck off, you piece of shit. No one wants you here.

>>248822569
Yeah but this is real. Unless it's Valves prank, somehow. But what kind of 'prank' is pretending to accidentally leak a tiny bit of info and a high-quality render of their highly anticipated and speculated-about new product?

>>248822862
Was Lighthouse a copyrighted term or did HTC always use tracking/base station to refer to them instead?

>>248822921

>>248822965
No. Codenames are used to hide your true intentions during product development. It's a really common practice.

>>248822921

>>248822926
My god it looks ugly. But that hollowed inside definitely looks like it's meant for accessories. This also 100% confirms the leaks from a while ago if they weren't already because it's the exact same headset.

>>248812191
You arent the only one they're actually a massive slut.

>>248823272
>lighthouse
>knuckles
>codenames
They're the opposite of codenames. They're far more descriptive than the final names.

>>248812191
letter drop

Namedrop VRsluts.

>>248824096
Me if I wasn't a coward

>>248814134
>All OLED really has over LCD, now, is its perfect black levels
when viewing a TV. With your face inside it 3 inches from the screen, It looks like 70% grey with random color noise. At least to me.

>>248823745
>Looks ugly
Well, for public vr, you can use the beautiful looking quest. On the train, In class or at grandmas. Whetever you are, there will be low poly 480p dicks to suck in the nepbar, stay classy anon.

>>248814481
enjoy your athlete's foot and HIV

>>248823745
>My god it looks ugly
It looks better than either of the Vives and most WMR sets. Translucent faceplate is a nice futuristic look.

>>248824285
hintdrop

>>248819361
Revealed April 1st because they are making Oculus/Facebook look like fools.

>>248824506
oh I see the faceplate. That's actually better then. I thought there was just a big hole in the headset.

>>248824515
I

>>248824668
for easier viewing

>>248824952
Gonna need better hints

>>248825125
Come to meetup tonight. Look for a female avatar.

Coinfess to me vrg..

>>248825406
I bought a better headset than Index and regret it

The index's resolution is apparently the same as Vive Pro.
I was hoping it would be a bigger jump. It's not like replacing a monitor, you have to buy a whole new headset. Also if it's not wireless why not just buy a used vive pro? They'll be cheap on ebay once this comes out.

>>248825593
>HTC
fuck off nigger, htc is btfo'd now

>>248825351
I will have a female avatar as well, meet me in front of the mirror

>>248825593
The lenses ought to make it seem like an improvement over the Pro, from less SDE and higher FOV. Also the build quality on the Vive Pro is pretty terrible, which seems typical of HTC in its death throes now.

>>248824434

>>248824096
Me, but few knows that.

>>248825965
I figured a higher fov would make SDE worse. Are you referring to the patent? I think that was about getting rid of the ring artifacts from the frensel lenses.

>>248826362
If they're using an LCD instead of a pentile OLED, the SDE will be reduced from better subpixel arrangement. On top of that, there are diffuser improvements that can be made.

But yes I was under the impression that in addition to these, the dual Fresnel lens in the patent solved a number of visual issues.

>>248823745
Hollowed out translucent spot is for a leapmotion controller

>>248824096
Me, but nobody wants to lewd with me

>>248825406
I bought a oculus go JUST for porn

>>248826862
the patent talks about oled though. It's not obvious whether or not the double lens system would work with a much larger lcd panel

>>248826914
forgot pic

>>248827141
>>248822926
the have two cameras in front, why not just make their own system compatible with the leapmotion API

>>248827034
Was it worth it?

>>248827929
That would require more cooperation with Leap Motion, and paying licensing fees. As it stands, the slot is just a generic USB slot. You can put whatever you want in there.

>>248827929
because they can just let the leapmotion module do all the math. It'll work better that way. Also the cameras in the leapmotion are filtered specifically for the 800nm wavelength emitted by the LED's in the leapmotion module.

>>248798664
Cute-poster chan...

>Following the leak of the Steam product page for the Valve Index headset (detailed below), a spokesperson for Valve tells Road to VR that the information “while not comprehensive, is accurate.” The spokesperson also said that the company is targeting May 1st for a full reveal of the headset which will include pre-orders, with shipping planned some time in June (though the exact date is not yet confirmed). Knuckles will also be sold alongside Index, and Valve plans to call them “Valve Index Controllers” going forward.
https://www.roadtovr.com/valve-index-vr-headset-leaked-steam-page-release-date/

>>248819881
>Power Adapter
Wait, it's not going to be USB powered?

>>248828056
Definitely
I haven't used 2d porn in months
And the subscription isn't that expensive since I share my vr porn accounts with 4 others friends of mine that also have headsets

>>248826914
It will have its own hand-tracking through the built-in cameras.

>>248828239
>>248828512
They already have their own hand tracking SDK
https://uploadvr.com/htc-vive-finger-tracking/

>full reveal a fucking MONTH from now
Christ.

>>248829113
well it looks like i'm buying the quest so i can get into 6 dof and pre-ordering the index for pc use around the same time

>>248829447
Why would you get a Quest if you're getting Index. Do you go out a lot or something.

>>248829113
>knuckles june
Nut.
Also expect "please send them back" just before release.

>>248829587
If you're going to buy two headsets why buy two PCVR headsets?

>>248829113
Keep the bundle to at most £500 and its a done deal.

What's the point of the leap motion for the index though? Play games without controllers? If it was with controllers to give you detailed finger control (more fine then what the knuckles give you) when holding up items infront of you, surely the controllers would be in the way?

>>248823745
likelet

>>248829362
HTC and Valve are not the same company

>>248829897
It's usable in steam games though

>>248798664
Calling yourself cute is very not cute...

>rift+trackers upgrade to index will become the cheaper route again
Vivelets just can't catch a break

>>248824096
I used to be until I became a reborn again christian, it's a shame really. Some of our recent additions are little cuties I'd fuck if I wasn't autistically loyal.

>>248829587
i'm buying a quest since it's probably releasing at the end of the month and i only have a go at the moment. the portability is also a big plus as i can take it when visiting family or even to a friends

>>248829362
Also with that solution, the valve HMD/your CPU is doing all the match so performance and latency suffers.

>>248829714
It will be for totally different use cases than the knuckles.

>>248830025
Having to buy lighthouses is cheaper?
I don't get your angle

>>248829986
Well, first off no one has made a SteamVR skeletal Input integration for it yet, and furthermore we don't know if it works with the Index cameras. Also, that's without even getting into the fact that HTC's hand tracking is dogshit compared to Leap Motion's

I really want to know what this knob does.
IPD likely that slider on the bottom.

Volume control? A nice tactile nulled knob would be nice but its a bit big for such a simple thing.
Perhaps a focus adjustment or something to do with the stacked lenses?

>>248830241
Probably forwards and backwards, for fitting glasses

>>248830241
Probably just a lens spacing adjustment for people with glasses, like the Vive has.

>>248824559
The joke is the headsets going to be 500 dollars WITH knuckles
350 without

>>248825406
I got all my likes from posting in /vrg/

>>248830462
Are you implying this is unreasonably high?

>>248830625
I'm implying the joke is their competition

No way it costs less than $800

>>248830462
my vive was $600 with knuckles, it was $800 when it came out and the vive pro was an absolute joke, $500 for headset and knuckles is very reasonable

>>248830725
there are headsets with better technology(albeit poorly implemented) for 400

>>248830725
Valve is smart, they will match the rift S price. Valve can easily afford to sell at a low profit margin/at a loss. Their goal will be to get as many headsets into the hands of consumers and gain market share

>>248830808
Especially considering the fact the Vive has ALWAYS been over priced and manufacturing lighthouses is definitely cheaper.

So the May date turned out not to be the release date but the date we get information and pre-orders. The fact that they've confirmed June is the actual date of release lays to rest most concerns but the way they leaked that page saying you could "upgrade your experience" in May was misleading and dumb. Fuck whoever decided that was a good idea to leak.

>>248830808
Meanwhile, the Rift S is $400 and comes with two gen 2 Touch controllers.

>hi-resolution camera module for Index
>proper AR experience

what other modules could be plugged in you reckon?

>>248830935
Yeah if valve undercuts everyone with better hardware it's a no brainer to invest into Steam's VR as a investor. They could make money elsewhere or maybe Gaben just wants to own VR.

>>248830983
probably those meme VRsmell accessories that are out there. I want to plug in a little arduino attached to a bunch of cell phone vibrators that you stick around on your head, for haptic headpat feedback.

>>248831027
>invest into Steam's VR as a investor.
Valve doesn't need investors. Not by a long shot. They are obscenely profitable.

>maybe Gaben just wants to own VR.
He definitely wants Steam to be the best place for PCVR. Not sure about ownership but it's pretty obvious he wants to prevent Zucc from dominating.

>>248831253
Gabe almost assuredly wants to go balls deep on VR, and not just to give another leg up for Steam.

>>248830935
That would be genius, but I don't know if they'd actually do it. (((stockholders))) wouldn't allow it.

>>248831492
>(((stockholders)))
It's Valve, the stocks are private and most of the stockholders are employees, with most belonging to Gaben, who wants VR and has more money than he knows what to do with.

>>248831492
Gaben is the stockholder I think.

>>248831449
Right, but he doesn't seem like the kind of person who wants to just completely own something. Otherwise SteamVR would have been the same kind of locked down bullshit that Oculus tried to pull before the community dragged them kicking and screaming towards more open-ness (but still not nearly enough)

Index will likely cost no more than $800, and no less than $600. If it does well enough such that it impacts Oculus' market share to a significant enough point, Oculus will just drop the price enough to a point where they start gaining market share again, just like they did with Rift, and just like other companies did with their WMR headsets which we shouldn't forget launched at much higher prices.

>>248830935
>Valve can easily afford to sell at a low profit margin/at a loss.
NO ONE actually sells 'at a loss', by design. This has always been an enormous meme. Valve will be selling these very close to 'at cost', though.

>>248831707
>>248831795
There surely has to be some layer of out of touch boomer to block this?

>>248831797
Maybe he'll undercut everyone for shits and giggles.
The steam controller is the same price as other controllers, goes on sale to absurdly low prices with fantastic bundles for new games all the time.
Their hardware track record pricing is great.

>>248831982
Oculus sold rift at a loss mate

>>248832159
When it was $800, maybe.

>>248831982
you're an idiot - gaming hardware manufacturers that also sell software have been loss-leading for as long as the industry has existed

>>248832221
So they're making more money by lowering the price? Even though they were selling it under production costs, assumably before?

I'm actually starting to believe Gaben might pull this off.
>>248832159
Costs $200 to manufacture apparently.

>>248832015
It's Gabe's show, but he's not as all-in on VR as people are making him out to be. For a while it was only Micheal Abrash and some interns working on VR at Valve, and they only got serious about it after Oculus hired Abrash away, got bought by Facebook, and launched their own store for VR games. Steam is Valve and any threat to Steam needs to be met. It's the same reason Google makes a web browser and smartphone OS freely available; they don't want anyone else leveraging platform control to threaten their search and advertising dominance.

>>248831982
Not a meme, it's modern marketing 101

>>248832015
If that was possible said boomer would have had Valve shitting out games EA style instead of dicking around for years

Reminder that before Facebook bought Oculus, Valve didn't actually give a shit about VR and the board was holding back their internal VR team.

>>248832351
He probably knows VR isn't going to go away, but also that it's not going to big any time soon either.

>>248832327
>200 to manufacture
Okay so why the fuck would Gaben sell his headset at 800?
I'm now expecting a 350 price tag for headset only, and then 500 for the bundles.
Maybe 400 for knuckles and HMD with 100-150 for knuckles SOLO

>>248832317
I think he's implying that the manufacturing process was streamlined with more time and scale, and that the components got cheaper over time.

>>248832472
>didn't
past tense
and funny considering everything uses SteamVR
>>248832515
Ah I see, so yeah the components are cheaper today. I do NOT expect an 800 dollar index, that's vive pro EYE pricing and ridiculous

Remember that Valve can actually profit by taking a loss on the headset. They make money on every game sold. It's not unusual for console developers to to this.
Still I'm fine dropping big money on it if it's good enough.

>people are convinced im destroying the thread
>i got this many upboat points from just /vrg/

>>248832456
The old Valve, yes. They stopped making games because Steam itself and microtransactions printed money far better.

>>248825406
I cucked my vrfu before they cucked me except they don't know it yet.

>>248832867
>Half-life VR leaks
Explain yourself? Is half life not a game?

>>248832970
I do know, I'm just milking you like a sugar daddy as long as I can now.

>>248832970
That's what you think

>>248832867
They stopped because they rightfully recognized that they couldn't push the cutting edge of gaming without stopping to completely transform their platform. This involved starting their ability to manufacture hardware from scratch, so of course they had to stop making games for several years.

>>248833114
They're still working on SteamOS and steam machines

>>248832986
The first game they've made in over a decade.

>>248832867
Valve is literally saving VR. I wasn't happy with them in the past but fuck off with that shit now, we have a lot to be thankful for right now. Do you really want to live in a world where the best we have is the HTC vive, till the end of time?

>>248833258
They were working on Steam Controller, it's software that now applies to EVERY controller, Steam OS and SteamVR and now the Index HMD with the best VR controllers to date instead.
Concede you nigger faggot.

>>248833337
If they release a sensibly priced headset, ok.

>>248831797
Oculus still has its exclusives, particularly those titles funded directly by Oculus themselves; the only way for other headsets to enjoy those titles are with an unauthorized hack.

>>248833470
him and kern used to be mlpol mods

>>248833470
Stop posting K3rn's discord, we're actually discussing VR for once you nigger

>>248833470
I wish I was well-liked enough to use a cute horse fanart profile pic and not get crucified for it

>>248833470
That's a very high resolution monitor, anon

>>248833231
Oh yeah, now it's full steam ahead on both software and hardware fronts. People are going to realize that Valve hasn't just been fucking around this past decade.

>>248833519
Yes, hence the "but not nearly far enough." Oculus is and will continue to be shit, and Valve putting all this love into VR is the only thing keeping us from being completely at Zucc's mercy

>>248781008
It's quite advanced by vrchat standards.

>>248833470
[Barney the Dinosaur TV listings]

>>248832159
You fell for their advertising lie, anon.

>>248833905
It was cheap either way
Where'd the lie come from

>>248832609
The idea is risk mitigation and some part spite. That is why Valve finally got serious about VR after Facebook buying Oculus. It isn't because they truly care about VR doing well. VR could die out this time for all they care, as long as Facebook's effort died with it too.

We should be happy that they're probably going to do good for VR, but we should never act like any company is our friend or that even high up individuals who might be our friends means that we should stop being being skeptical or give them so much benefit of the doubt that we don't question them anymore. For all we know, they could suddenly change their tune one day for whatever reason, because companies are just that complex.

>>248834067
Valve's recent track record with hardware on the Steam Controller and knuckles has been fantastic so far, we just need specs and prices to confirm.

>>248834067
Gaben IS my friend

>>248834067
>but we should never act like any company is our friend
This meme is stupid. Companies are made of people and can easily have shared values with individuals and groups. I get along fabulously with just about everyone at Valve I've ever talked to.

>>248834273
fappable smug
gembutts...

>>248832159
>>248832278
>>248832430
they don't. you're all fools. at most they sell at LOW MARGINS, 'at cost' (and not actually anywhere near true zero-margin, in most cases), which is NOT the same as 'at a loss'. 'selling at a loss' is fucking marketing bullshit to try to justify their exploitative walled-garden business models, 'we bring you all this wonderful expensive hardware at cost to ourselves!', they fucking don't. it's a lie. wise the fuck up.

there's some exceptions such as mobile phones which are given for lower prices contingent to taking a particular service subscription - but that's really just another way to say 'leased'.

>>248834565
Perfectly THINN

>>248834815
im...im cumming! a-anon!!!

>>248834273
Tell him we need MORE focus from Valve on VR. The more the better. As much as we can get.

>>248834217
>>248834421
I expect Index to be pretty great. Just saying, whether or not they do good for us, it's not a function of the company intrinsically having good will towards us. Companies are not humans. They do not have emotions. Individuals within them do, but they don't always have control over everything even if you think they do, and many situations would limit them even if they wanted to do something and had the power to make the calls. Believe me, I've talked with a lot of great folks within Valve, Oculus, and various other startups all passionate about what they're doing. But sometimes things just don't go or fall the way you want them to.

>>248834726
source: your ass

>>248834932

>>248835839
get your shitty CG anime out of here.

>>248833608
He is not well liked.
His past drunken rants have revealed him to be a vindictive bitter asshole who resents most of us. He is only in that position due to k3rns nepotism.

>>248834948
You have an old-fashioned view of the old megacorps as typified by IBM. Nowadays they're all trying hard to be smaller and more responsive, which means more human creeps in. This is part of why they're all also slowly succumbing to batshit cult ideologies, today.

Valve still stands apart as a true exceptionally small company (less than 400 people still, I think?), with a true singular owner-leader 'benevolent dictator' (unlike megacorp pretenses to such with their public-speaker CEOs) and unique internal structure (or lack thereof).

bros...

About this whole "selling at cost" thing... It doesn't really matter in the end. It's PR speak ultimately, but mostly just for those who don't want to try making sense of their overall financials. Regardless of what the BOM was or how much the R&D was, there are still other factors. Their entire spending on VR in general within the company matters. They're already spending so much that making a big profit on such a tiny user base is a rather absurd idea. In that sense, they are selling at cost, or at a loss. And that would be true probably even if Index was sold at $1000. What matters more is likely just their internal strategy and calculations.

>>248834565
>>248834932
he's waiting, anon..

Reminder for anyone who's interested, I'll be hosting In This Corner of the World tomorrow night at 10PM EDT. I'll post details to join off of when the world is up.

>>248831449
i dunno he seems a little fat for VR

>>248836229
inb4 the pull cord spring gets weakened and it become a shitty set of wands

>>248836102
he doesn't drink he is the one always commenting on how much we drink.

>>248836160
Companies these days are a lot more responsive than they were year ago (especially now with Discord), and Valve itself is quite different as a company than what we usually see, but my point still stands. As much as we want a company to do something, and as much as we think they may do something based on what we know about how they operate and what key people in the company MAY want, we don't truly have all the details about what's going on internally.

>>248836736
>he thinks that's the issue with knuckles

>>248837148
they could probably fix that though. designing a brake for the cords that doesn't wear out quickly is another matter

>>248837148

>>248837148
can't they simply use metal and not plastic for that part?
Like make it out of steel how hard is that?

>>248837445
>what is strain hardening

>>248837445
I imagine you don't know which parts will be overstressed before making and testing a prototype, so EV3 Knuckles found the issue and DV1 did replace that bit with metal.

>>248837731
Anon those are DVs. I can tell by the dots and having held a DV in my time

>>248837731
those are both dv images btw. it's not metal

>>248769292 (OP)
Pavlov Beta in approximately 1 hour and 42 minutes from the time I posted this post.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1650128645 The small pocket of vrgers I played with yesterday liked this better than I thought, but it was hard to judge because it a 2v3. Dl it now so you don't waste a slot while we play later.

>>248837148
Huh, I had this exact problem with an experiment I made of a Knuckles-like strap system a while back.

>>248838208
>heights seem wrong
>mic doesn't seem to work
>can't pull out ammo while crouching because of height

>>248838029
>>248838012
Oops. I thought the DVs fixed the problem, my mistake.
>all these anons with free Knuckles

>>248837378
they should have just used elastic

>>248838730
>all these anons with free Knuckles
i fully intend on buying a consumer pair, even if they don't ask for my sets back

SATE YOUR BLOODTHIRST.
Beta Lobby up.
host:GORILLA DICK PUSSY GOD
pw:1488

I'm gonna fucking kill you, Tennessee boy. I didn't forget.

>>248838527
You can put ammo on your chest so you can reload while crouching. You have to regrab it with the grip to do so.

>>248836229
>>248836736
Valve has been beta testing these things for nearly three years, this general form over a year. I really hope there aren't any major design defects such as that.

These problems seem obvious enough that Valve probably would have them fixed in the consumer product. It would be pretty unlikely they'd let something that disastrous pass.

>>248840243
Posts made moments before disaster

>>248839580
thanks.

>>248840243
One of my lecturers used to posit that things should only be amended once because after that you start introducing more problems.

>>248840243
They have had so many of the things returned because of the problem there's no way they would keep it in.
I assume the first thing they do when they build a new model is continuously stress test it until it breaks in that way.

>>248840243

>anker power banks come in
>still another month until i can order the quest that i bought them for

how do I get free hardware. do I have to develop a game?

>>248842621
>brain
goofed it

>>248842847
>actually buying a quest
>>248842934
No. You merely had to ask for them at the right time. Some got sent multiple pairs while having no good reason. Might support the selling at a loss theory.
>>248842621
>neural interface

>>248837061
Even worse if he was sober during that episode.

>>248842847

how does quest tracking work? is it just like a google cardboard with junky on chip sensors?

>>248843530
cameras + visual odometry

Index will use fixed foveated (more accurate: lens matched) transmission which will make it possible to run a 2k x 2k @ 90 Hz image over DP 1.2. You heard it here first.

>>248843570
does it work outdoors?

>>248843740
It depends. Probably not when the sun is very intense. Probably not in the complete darkness. Otherwise, it should be able to work. Just be careful not to let any sunlight touch the lenses or they'll act like magnifying glasses and within less than a minute cause damage to your screens.

>>248843728
Watch them just run it at 75Hz instead.

>>248829993
Kawaii boku disagrees.

>>248834726
Nearly every video game console has been sold at a loss.

>>248844284
based on speculation by research firms. The manufacturer never actually tells the public how much they spend per unit.
I bet those big bundles that come out at launch have a healthy profit margin. They basically tack on 40 dollars per game for 2-3 games.

>>248836229
Reporting for porn

>>248843226
but i can afford both the quest and index

>>248844718
"Nintendo is counting on a strong launch for the Wii U next month to help return the company to profitability this fiscal year, but the hardware itself isn't going to contribute anything to that bottom line. Nintendo has revealed that the Wii U will be sold below cost in order to attract more potential customers for what it hopes will be stronger-than-normal software launch sales.

"Rather than determining a price based on [the Wii U's] manufacturing cost, we selected one that consumers would consider to be reasonable," Nintendo President Satoru Iwata said in an investor conference call yesterday. Iwata didn't say how much of a loss the company would take on each system it sells, but he did indicate that the projected write-off from Wii U hardware is a big part of why "we cannot say that we will achieve 'Nintendo-like' profits within this fiscal year." Just yesterday, Nintendo slashed its profit forecast for the year by 70 percent, thanks in part to weaker than expected 3DS and Wii sales in the first half of the year."

just fucking google

>>248846114
>trusting nips

>>248846306
They make better games than westerners, so yeah

Thinking about getting a VR headset. Are there any compatible with trackpad?

>>248847432
>Are there any compatible with trackpad?
what?

>>248847432
Wait for Vive Index, unless you really care about muh portability at the expense of funtionality then get Rift S. Unless you're willing to buy a headset that you'll want to replace in a few months.

>>248838208
Is this still happening or what?

>>248847682
>Vive Index
you had one job

>>248848005
score LET

>>248848005
Force of habit.

>>248847432
very few games support mice of any kind. usually only ones that are converted for VR

>>248846114
>just trust us, white piggu

although honestly WiiU was an exceptionally low price and may be the exception that makes the rule, just by nature of all the home console atypical shit that went into the gamepad (batteries, screen, wireless video, its own minor compute).

it's still all bullshit, in general.

ded?

>>248851905
||USE THE DISCORD||

>>248852008
no

>>248852080
why not thread sucks

>>248847961
>>248838208
>>248839343
get in

>>248851905
like vr

>>248853567
based

Someone post the yuru edit of the beach in end of eva.

>>248857167
mommy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>248857167

>>248857167

>>248858106
come on theyre finally keeping their shit to the discord fuck off

>>248858106
>there's no nudity under the bar but it's still indecent just to show your base mesh like that

the thread was going so well, what happened

>>248858432
considering theirs no nipples you can see it all anyway

no money no problem
https://streamable.com/6d7l1

>>248862232
>oblivious retard with the Kar98 gets domed
justice

>>248858106
Yuru nooo... Please keep posting in the thread on updates on new model making. We need thread content not to retreat into discord due to angry spergs.

>>248862718
yes the threads angry spergs for wanting anonymity

>>248862817
Project posting is ok as long as name drop is not made. Just like how screenshots are ok.
Seeing other's progress and blunders on their avatar creation is good.

>>248863108
>>248862718
>>248858106
>>>/3/

>>248858556
There is nothing left to discuss about Valve Index. There will always be shit to discuss about cancer.

It's basically the same problem with western civilization and post-industrialism.

>>248863779
your opinion
>>>/trash/

>>248863108
Why are you guys so OBSESSED with identities? Use your god damn discord for that, please screw off.
Seriously, what's the difference between a namedrop, letter drop, a screenshot or a generic headswap project posted?
Literally nothing, there's a reason you didn't sign in with a username on this website.
Respect our culture or fuck off.
>>>/3/

>>248864337
You should go back to discord

>>248771020
Because the Dev loves the idea of not having retina.

>>248864679
Oh god.
Oh god why.
What even is that thing at this point, like fucking jello that occasionally blobs due to the colliers.

>>248864679
this is why flat chest masterrace

>>248864440
Remember when this thread used to welcome unity and blender posts? Yeah I'd like that to return. The culture you coopted and changed by driving them out. This is why we can't have nice things. The people that have enjoyed the game are being pushed out by pretenders like you. Fucking secondary.

>>248865614
I remember before that, newfag. Fuck off you turned blender unity discussion into virtue signalling attention whore points, keep it to discord or >>>/3/

>>248864440
you're on /vg/, you already gave up your culture

wtf when did there get to be so many fucking vr games/demos on itch?
https://itch.io/games/tag-virtual-reality

>>248863779
/3/ will tell you to fuck off, importing MMD models into VRChat is not 3DCG

>>248865894
t. discord user
>>248866024
Have you tried: discord or fucking off?

>>248865717
We didn't turn shit. it's your perception that is off. Fuck off with your insecurity and make content yourself as well and share it with the others. Stop making others so unwelcome to post their creations and progress you piece of shit.

For everyone else, please do not be shy posting your blender and unity questions with pictures as well so we'll know what your specific problems are. We'll help in any way we can. Specially on Unity questions as there is a very specific way how VRchat assets work. Blender for VRchat is also quite differnt from just basic /3/ as we have developed shorthand methods to get your avatar spiffy quick and clean into vrchat.

>>248866109
Don't even have it installed.

>>248865717
Before that when the threads couldn't sustain themselves? Unity/Blender project posting, and recordings of those projects inside VRChat, were common from at least January onward.

Is anyone interested in learning how to fly planes in VR? I've been doing a lot of DCS, and if any Anons want to get their feet wet with flight sims I'd be happy to teach them how to fly the SU-25T (One of the free planes you get in DCS).

Bare minimum requirement is a flight stick, though.

>>248866376
>VRChat is sustaining the threads
Where did I say that? I just said that content creation posting was part of this general from the start of them being self-sustaining.

>>248866549
I was too shy and too brainlet to post Unity projects in January, try again.

>>248866376
>I am 50% of the posts in every single thread
here's your (you)

>>248866663
Every other (You) is to me, you're liking MY posts.

>>248866513
I want to get into doing this. Can you recommend a flight stick?

>>248866825
We're on to you, inside man!

>>248866819
If you're just getting into it, I'd suggest buying a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. It's super cheap, about $30, and while it's plastic garbage, it'll keep you from buying a T16000 or a X-56 and dropping all that money on a HOTAS setup you might not even like to play games with.

If you want I can drop my Discord and I can show you what flying in VR is like.

>>248866963
Discord? I was following you until you mentioned that trash heap, I think I'll stick to playing CS:GO.

>>248866376
>I am 50% of the posts in every single thread
Screenshotted for posterity. The best part is April Fool's Day ended 1 minute and 37 seconds before you posted.

>>248867043
Yikes.

>>248866963
Which controls should I map first.

>>248867181
I was fucking with you, if you couldn't tell by my mention of discord.

>>248866620
Legos are valid content creation on /toy/ and there's half a dozen lego threads right now.

>>248864817
>>248865308
This is due to using TDA hair and tail and related things which have a ridiculous amount of bones. This could be avoided just by merging some bones.

>>248867480
Your lego creations in a modelling program imported into a video game dev engine is on topic VR content.
I concede.

>>248867254
God damn it.

>>248867592
April fools!

This thread is a lost cause

>>248867043
The discord was gonna be used for using the streeaming thing more likely than not so anon can make inforned decisions on buying a flightstick

>>248867689
n-not like this.

>>248867706
Yeah just join the discord!
Like! if you agree!

I just wanted a comfy VR thread. Why do I have to suffer through all of this.

>>248867181
I'm not >>248867254.

Controls are generally on a person-to-person basis. I'm fine with a lot of default controls in the SU-25T, though I changed my hat switch to move my targeting pod reticle and used my macros to turn on the TV guidance system and turn the laser on. I used a couple more macro buttons to trim the aircraft, and the buttons on the stick are mostly dedicated to the weapons.

redpill me on the NA's big cheese.

>>248866963
I don't know who the other replies are, I'm >>248866819
Thanks for the suggestion, that's very cheap. I wanted something exactly like this, I'd probably only use it for a few War Thunder games in VR, but sure I'd like to see what flying is like. You can find me in vrg discord: ghosty

>>248868092
Thanks anyway but I don't like cockpit games too much anyway, 30 dollars is too many anyway. I'm >>248866819
You can find me in the /vrcg/ discord: ghosty

>>248868203
DCS is completely free to fly. You get the SU-25T (which is extremely fun) and the clicky P-51 trainer aircraft.

>>248868347
You know what? Actually fuck you, I'm going to just stick with Contractors.

>>248868203
>the /vrcg/ discord
(You)

>>248865998
Just go to discord then.

>>248868408

Why don't you just campaign to get a dedicated VR board made since /vg/ is too fast and overcrowded?

>>248868484
I was asked for my vrchat name?

>>248868536
We have one, >>>/vr/