/vrgg/ - Virtual Reality Gaming General #28

dang it, I was just about to make it

>>399022862
*hug*
next time

will there be a VTOL or pavlov game today?

I'm up for playing anything for the next 7 hours, just pick a game.

>>399023218
Tuesday is Pavlov day. 8 hours and 20 minutes from now!

>>399023197
I'm surprised someone commissioned ITR furry art
>captcha: 0W0TTV

Play GTFO VR!

>>399035875
B-but I am preoccupied with making Big titied Skyrim Goth girls with wings.

>>399039396
proof?

>>399035875
is the game still all about stealth mostly. i remember playing the beta way back when

>>399041592
More like playing around finding the perfect shape and outfit for my flower wenches

>>399043970
Yes, like 80% stealth. That webm is in the last 30min of a 4 hour session.
We cleared it, but it was hard...

>>399044054
Anon you can't post tits here. I wanted to see goth.

my cat would play “tap the plastic bag fulla groceries repeatedly because it makes a funny noise” VR game all day if it existed. miss you coco

>>399043970
>>399044343
>>399035875
I've beat all the story missions on flat during the free weekend that was recently.
The game is just bullshit and it is also very buggy.
Cannot imagine how you people play it in VR.

>>399044657
>Cannot imagine how you people play it in VR.
We do it because it's fun

>>399045287
If I had to make a food analogy, for the americans in the thread, it would be something like eating trash from the garbage because you are starving instead of eating a delicious meal.

It is Pavlov day! Join Gem Server in 2.5 hours!!

Authenticate here to get through the IP whitelist:
https://sparkleyserver.top/

Download these maps in advance:
https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=2662720448

>>399045568
What is the analog of 'delicious meal' in the modern games industry?

>>399051253
Simracing games in VR.

>>399051552
Don't like it. Cockpit games like Vox Machinae and especially VTOL are far better for me. Being a VR game where you can use for hands is far superior to a tacked on VR camera with bad peripherals.

By the way uh does anyone know of someone who does good models for VRchat (furry)?

>>399052787
wrong thread you mentally ill nigger

>>399057789
My bad

>>399052274
>indie games with no content are better

Maybe if you're a busrider.

>>399058319
>uuuooooohhhhh I'm driving in circles on a predefined optimum path I'M GONNA VROOOOOM

>>399058585
>triggered

>>399058729
>is that... a HEEL AND TOE DOWNSHIFT?!! AAAAHHHHHH VROOOOOOMING I'M VROOOOOMING

>>399059028
>hating fun

>>399060000
You're the one implying 'fun' isn't a valid reason to play games.

>>399061556
No I'm not.

It's Tuesday! Time for Pavlov Seach and Destroy!
At 1900 UTC+1
Join the community server: "Gem Server!"

The server has an IP whitelist, whitelist yourself by going to sparkleyserver.top
Headpat people when you join anyway
Gem server maps! https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2662720448

good luck pavlovers

Good Game Pavlovs

@pigger
pls fix this missing geometry. You can shoot through it.

>>399062507
I would join if you stopped using anime images for your announcements on this anime website, buckaroo.

>>399085362
>I would join
Nobody wants you to. Now leave the site.

>>399085908
You know full well I can't!

Does anybody else has a problem with Battle Sisters where you can only turn by hitting a very specific right/left angle on the stick? How do you fuck up this bad?

>>399086851
If you're using SteamVR you can alter this.

>>399076046
I'll tell him about it later

>>399086851
>>399090493
Nevermind, that was just me being dumb. The option that sounds like it's for your turning angle is actually a deadzone for your turning stick.

>>399035875
I hear it's fully playable now alone with bots.
Not like I'll every be able to drag NA niggers out of DC voice chat to play anything.

Any real nigga hours going on

>>399123535
None

>spend 20 hours in sec level 2
>got $25k
>get to sec level 3
>buy fully upgraded AK74M
>spend 2 hours in sec level 3
>got up to sec level 4
>don't have enough money to fully upgrade tiger rifle
>mfw I am now poor

>>399022724 (OP)
Bros this absolute moron didn't put the previous thread in OP

this is the previous thread OP doesn't want you to see future archive browser

>>397597556 (Cross-thread)

Mission: Use Quest-2 only as HMD for emulation and videos since all games are shit IS A GO!

Now we kick back, relax, and wait for this whole shit generation to blow over.

>>399138078
Couple Qs since I got into sideloading shit recently.

1) How's the battery life when emulating PS1/PSP-and-earlier shit?

2) What are the controller options? Touch has no d-pad so that makes it shit for a lot of classics. Can you pair bluetooth controllers like a Dualshock or are you stuck with USB-C -> USB-Mini/Micro adapters?

>>399138224
Im using virtual desktop, I keep it charging while I play so it doesn't run out very fast.

I Haven't ordered a usb hub yet to try charging and plugging in a psx controller at the same time to the quest 2

Bluetooth controllers should work though

>>399138325
Or oculus home desktop or whatever the shit is that uses your desktop natively on quest 2.

Not sure if virtual desktop is a standalone program or not

>>399137967
based archivist

BT audio on Q2 is so laggy. there's like a 0.5s delay when playing steamVR games.
>use cabled headphones
>cables jingles everytime I turn my head
>use BT earphones
>there's a massive delay

is there a VRChat mod for a popup on screen keyboard for desktop (non-VR) mode that isn't detectable by the anticheat

>>399139692
You could ask in the vrchat general, they would know better

>>399139519
You need bluetooth 5 with aptx latency on both the transmitter and receiver. Bluetooth 4 always has hundreds of milliseconds delay.

>>399142517
>>399139519
*aptx low latency

I was playing some Robo Recall Unplugged on my Quest earlier in the week. Decided to boot up the PC version since I've not touched that since it came free with my CV1. Man, night & day difference on the visuals. Game looks fucking great even up against modern VR titles.

It also made me realize how badly the Quest version suffers the lack of muzzle flash from your weapons. Too bad most modern VR games coming out build with the Quest in mind, and the PC version is just that version but with possibly a less aggressive LoD and slightly higher textures.

How's Questie ItR? Might have to migrate since ol' 970 isn't cutting it more and more with every passing day.

>>399145727
you can get a 6600xt for 329$ now

>>399145727
>How's Questie ItR?
An ugly fucking version of the game, which is saying a lot when PC ItR is already not that much of a looker to begin with.

>>399145727
feels like a switch 480p port of the game
>https://youtu.be/JKUciQjHzEQ

>>399137819
im sec level 5 and ive yet to buy a wepon

>>399150886
I just want to try out new weapons

>>399154773
you can try everything for free in the firing range.

>>399155067
shooting at live targets feels different no cap fr fr

Just recently started playing 2.0, is finding this level of loot common at all? Coming from 1.0 this seems like a goldmine.
Also is there a name for the thundercrack events at night that spawn new enemies? Does it always occur? Or only if you've cleared out the area you're in?

>>399158702
>Also is there a name for the thundercrack events at night that spawn new enemies? Does it always occur?
Enemies spawn from those broken uh, rift thingys? If you hear a thunder and enemy appears, then you can also hear zapping noise when you're close to the source anomaly. Follow the bzzzzzzzzuuuuuuuuuu, then shoot whatever black threedimensional ink splatter you see

Loot goes even better than that sometimes.

>>399158881
Ah right, the spawn seemed fairly far away so I wasn't sure if it was environmental.

>>399158702
I think that is one of the stashes that you find notes for which tell you where to look
After you take the items they won't respawn

>>399158702
it used to have an ak74 in it before it was nerfed to that, but yeah some stashes are pretty good though manually placed look like that do not respawn with the tide

>>399158702
>thundercrack events at night that spawn new enemies?
that's the rift. it's aoe spans the entire section of the map. for example the whole village, the whole construction site etc.

>is finding this level of loot common at all?
pretty sure that's a one time stash

>>399159183
I wondered if it was but never found any notes, need to go back there to loot out some of the other houses, kinda hightailed it out of there after quickly breaking the rift not realising the respawns will stop.
>>399159252
That'd of been pretty fucking useful. Just go sec level 2 now with 7.7k, however I'm a hoarder and a jew so I hate to spend my money on rifles. I never bought a single rifle in 1.0, only my glock. I think I amassed like 30k before spending a bit on ASVAL ammo that I never used.

>>399159546
You can just get the scavenger mod if you want to not spend money

>>399164338
I'm more frugal than anything. I like having access to everything, but only actually buying it if the situation is dire.

Also I presume the 2.0 world timer is slower than the 1.0 timer? At least it feels like that. I was a big fan of taking things as slow as I could in 1.0 and was worried how I'd fare with the 2.0 tide system but it doesn't seem too bad so far.

I wonder how much money they make off of these shitty porn VR games

>>399165008
Most barely make back the $100 gaben tax.

the 180 degrees porn videos look like ass, it looks like a japanese woman is blowing me inside a fish bowl

>>399164667
the tide timer is tied to the difficulty. I've never played 1.0 but you could clear an entire map in between tides quite easily

EU VTOL today at 1800 UTC!

>>399172893
1.0 didn't have tides, map refreshed every time you went back to vanno

>>399172946
How do I join?

>>399173721
They’ll post it nearer the timeslot

>>399173721
>>399176053

I'll post the server details near the slot. Go to multiplayer -> private lobbies and look for "EU VTOL".

>>399177373
>>399176053
Do I need to know more than is covered in the tutorials?

>>399178151

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQI8fbYpl7o


Watch this for sure- however, it's missing the changes of a recent update that allows 'active radar' missiles you require you after you notch or terrain mask against them. Be aware of that as you're not safe until they hit the ground or you can get out of their small seeker cone.

The biggest thing to know is that terrain masking = the safest option against radar missiles. Stay low, and use the situational awareness of the ARAD page's HUD to get close enough to long range radar to use your weapons.

Against IR missiles, you won't get a radar tracking warning, so it takes some vigilance. Your RWR will warn you of the launch and after a bit the incoming missiles, but it has blind spots and the incoming warning can be delayed. Be vigilant when flying low over enemy positions. Luckily, avoiding IR missiles is VERY easy- just reduce throttle as to cut your afterburners and launch a few flares.

>>399139692
Get a VR headset

>>399178151
>>399172946
EU VTOL server up! Main branch, Server name EU VTOL, Pass 'hotdog'

will applel save us?

>>399190868
see >>399190128 (Cross-thread)

Is Enderal actually any good? I refunded Ruinsmagus and really just want to play a good RPG. Karnage Chroncles was terrible as well.

NO GAMES
I DON'T KNOW WHY

>>399193850
>refunded
>can pirate it free

screw you ruinsmagus hater

Tales of Glory 2 is on sale for 14 dollars. is it worth it?

Is there a reason VTOL didn't count my air to air cannon kill? The enemy plane was a fireball when I left it and it was no longer on the radar after. I didn't even get the assist, so did it just outright give someone else the kill? Did no-one get the kill because it survived for too long after I hit it?

no games
dead thread

>>399219941
I have ITR, its the only game i need.
But fr tho, i want escape from tarkov vr so fucking bad

AHHH FUCKING BRATS LEAVE ME ALONE

>>399226117
>>>/trash/ please
>but it's a game!
>>>/trash please

lol

>>399195025
I don't really pirate games. With Steam's refund policy I can always try out the latest patch and see if I like the game. For a lot of VR games the versions on torrent sites are really out of date. Games get updated very often these days.

>>399232873
Now pick them up by their neck

>just discovered I've owned phasmophobia for weeks
>must have bought it on sale
>I'm sure I bought it knowing full well I'm a chickenshit and never loaded it
H-how do I play more than the title screen? I love spooky games but the immersion is too spooky. I can't even play 5N@F

>>399257280
You just do it PUSSY.
Or bring friends. It's easier multiplayer

>>399257280
yeah it's easier multiplayer. I used to play it with my friends non-VR of course. just imagine playing on VR...

>>399257885
>>399257643
Tried looking up some vr gameplay but everyone that's uploaded videos is a meming onions faggot screaming stupid bullshit into their mics...

>>399258097
that's basically the game you just scream into the mic while doing tasks inside a building

>>399260234
When I say stupid bullshit, I mean making shitty jokes about drugs and other stupid brotyoutube crap not 'are you here/give me a sign'

>>399057789
n-word used

>>399264442

Anyone wanna play Contractors at 18 UTC saturday?
Trying out the update and new gamemodes, Halo etc?

No, let's play payday2vr instead

>>399273183
Ok, Payday 2 VR it is!
Lobby this saturday Heisters!

*coughs*

i can't believe pcvr is dead

>>399282113
>Almost exclusively play Skyrim, VAM, and some driving simulators these days as I've run out of VR only games to play
>End up discussing them in their dedicated threads rather than /vrgg/ as there isn't a huge point
It's over. Maybe I will make some webms one of these days or blog post once I figure out how to use OBS's replay buffer with my Index controllers.

>>399282756
I use OBS replay buffer by just opening up steamvr desktop and hitting the save button on the obs window

>>399282113
me too
just look at these awesome vr games released this week

How much money do you think the ITR devs have made?
Kinna curious if any VR dev is even profitable, or just passion stuff

IT'S OUT!

>>399297442
it's been out for years tf are you talking about

>>399299404
it's out on the oculus store. not really relevant to most people itt I suppose

>>399299520
if you are willing to give Zuckerberg even more money, you should kill yourself

hello, would anyone b interested in playing pavlov minecraft zombies in about 11 hours from this post

>>399297442
https://youtu.be/dF92n6lb50A
Honestly, it's impressive that it looks like that on Q2.

>>399265349
n-word used pictorially

>>399028375
VR has always been furry territory, always will be.

yea totally solved my drop out issues

Blacktop hoops today at 9est
Come or you will never be ballin
Game is free

>>399319134
First time I hear about this. Does it require a lot of movement? Can I just be a 3 and D player? My knee is fucked.

>>399319134
Too late for me.

>>399319268
You don't really have to move irl outside of bending over to get the ball in the scrambles.
You can 3 and D if you want, but defense is kinda janky with how the IK works. Shooting is super fun though.

>>399319134
>cannot hang on the hoop anymore
shit game

>>399320704
What? Since when.

N

I

C

>>399319134
I almost knocked my ceiling fan off playing this game.

What the fuck is up with Fixing a Leak in Into the Radius? This seems like waaaaaaay too many enemies for the level of gear I have access to. I'm not even allowed silencers so stealth isn't really an option either. Am I pretty much required to get that shitty 9x18 SMG to have a chance at this?

>>399335069
There's a free Kedr in the water to the north of the map, near a red wheel sticking out of the water and a circle of rocks. You could also get the Glock that's on top of the tanks at the motor depot (where you got the film) on permovay route. They're significantly better than the Makarov and Tokarev because they hold more than 8 shots.

That mission isn't actually difficult though. Just wait for the one in the Factory main building.

>>399335572
I did buy the gun that allows 18(?) bullets per magazine, but just the dudes that run up to you take five shots or two blasts with my shotgun and there's what, three of them there? That's on top of the dozen cops hanging around

>Just wait for the one in the Factory main building
Wait for the what in where? I'm completely new to this game

>>399335572
>Find a random gun in the water to play the game
This is why into the radius sucks

>>399336510
There are notes telling you it is there, but you can just buy it if you want. You can complete the mission with a Makarov if you're not shit at the game.
>>399336245
The factory is the third map. It's much more difficult. Like 100x more difficult than what you're on now.

>>399336791
Oh I see what you mean. I thought you meant I should wait for something at the Factory to help with the mission I'm on like a dummy.

I just don't get what I'm what I'm doing wrong because no matter where I try to enter from I get swarmed and that situation is neither possible nor fun to handle.

>>399337147
You're just bad at games, probably.

>>399336245
It's easily doable with a 9x18 pistol, just bring some extra ammo. Aim for the head if possible, everything except fragments(the ones with cores) take extra headshot damage. Shoot the first few from range then you want to get into the village ASAP to kill the buzzing rift so it stops enemy respawns.

>>399337517
How fast does it spawn enemies? I was picking enemies that kept crawling up my asshole off for a minute or two and then had 6 or 7 cops on me

>>399338207
Whenever you hear thunder, that's the rift spawning enemies.

>>399338372
Cool, thank you. I'll give it another shot with a more aggressive approach and maybe being more thorough with the surroundings

If your normal meetup avatar uses more than 50 megs of VRAM you're a fag and I'll publically shame you.

>>399339337
>3090let
Just don't be poor.

>>399339526
80 avatars of 120 megs is 10 gigs already + world + render buffors + steamvr stuff taking vram + windows + optionally quest video encoders, and even 3090 is barely enough.

>>399339881
3090 is 24gb

>>399340080
BARELY ENOUGH

And some fags NEED to have their 4k skin pores and 16 bit floating point normal maps, taking 500 megs.

OPTIMISE YOUR VRAM USEAGE

>>399339881
The 3090's fine for that.

If they add foveated rendering officially it'll massively help performance and VRAM usage.

>>399341051
it will increase VRAM useage, as it will have to hold even more framebuffers: for high res foveated image and low res overall image

>>399341647
That's not how it works you fool. Easy to prove wrong by using it in anything you can force with the VRPerfkit.

NA VTOL in 20 minutes lol, sorry for the late announcement.

>>399349429
NA VTOL server up! Main branch, Server name NA VTOL, Pass 'hotdog'

>>399337147
kill them slowly and methodically. you're not supposed to come charging in guns blazing

>>399302707
30 minutes, get ready.

pavlov zombie survival lobby is upp

host: james
password: 1984

>>399368043
James…

>>399372938
t-that's not really his real name right?

>>399372938
Do you think he is 38?

im a racist

good morning /vrgg/

>try VTOL VR
>feel nothing except the pain of the stock Q2 strap trying to squeeze my forehead like it's watermelon rubber band challenge
The magic is gone...
How do you turn in one of these planes? Just twisting the joystick only moves the nose a little to the side. Yes, I have barely done any flying in vidya.

>>399385261
Tilt plane then pull up or down

>>399385261
Is this another poster who somehow has no idea how a plane turns, or did you just ignore the replies last time you asked?

>>399386041
This is the first time I posted about this.

>>399386316
You have to roll the plane then pull up. It's strange that two people recently have never seen a plane do this in their life and think they turn with the rudder.

>>399386496
It's not that surprising, a lot of games just make planes control like cars that can move up and down.

>>399386867
I've played many games and never had seen this.

Is this the type of people who got stuck on GTA rc helicopter and rc plane missions?

bros I think I'm in love with sniping in vr...

>>399387813
Same, I really want an in-depth sniping simulator in VR.

>>399387720
I have never played GTA enough to get to those missions so that vital piece of my vidya development wasn't there I guess.

>>399377015
>no hands

I've turned into a Table Tennis fag with Eleven Table Tennis. I bought a Solidslime adapter and even started watch pro matches.

>>399390070
Based what's your ELO

*yawns*

want to play VR,don't feel like putting on the headset.
what do?

>>399402724
Put on the headset

>>399402776
fine.

>>399402984
just go take a nap anon, videogames are stupid

>>399403448
welp, this just happened, no idea why.

no vr for me.

>>399404231
it's nap time, bitch

>>399389485
the difference between pretending to be in the game and being in the game

>>399405083
kindly stop posting fursuits, they are abhorrent
I will tolerate any other form of furfaggotry but not this

>>399404847
your not my dad.

also it only happens in steamVR home.

never mind, nothing works.

is it just me or is the DVL too OP? being able to one shot anything in the game and the ability to shoot them from 300m+ away is too strong

>>399407660
Combat encounter ranges vary and you're going to need an alternative weapon for closer encounters.
Personally the 7.62 SCAR is my favourite. Stick the variable zoom scope on it and it does every engagement range.

>>399406536
none of this would have happened if you just took a nap
this is your fault

>>399405145
rude

>>399409612
are you the one who is posting furry pictures in /vrg/ steam chat btw?

>>399409776
whats that

anon at least mention your favorite vr game or something anything

>>399410292
>>399409612
no fat furfaggotry either please

>>399409776
we have a steam group?

>>399410664
that's /vrg/, we are not /vrg/, stop talking about /vrg/

>>399410664
only the /vrg/ one
and even that one is basically dead

>>399410664
There's a /vrg/ one. The chat is dead but the voice channels are used for Payday 2 and After the Fall lobbies if I remember correctly. You don't need to actually join the group to use it.

>>399410398
she's NOT fat at all !!

>>399411651
prove it, show the weight.

bros...

>>399420304
>still no VR porn game that's an actual game
Probably years out, there's still very few proper porn games (counting out copy-paste rpgmaker games), let alone 3d ones.
We only have some lazy VR support from other "games", Poke Abby the abandoned demo and barely a game, and then there's modded Skyrim and Sims 4.
Whatever the first one is, I really hope it's not cel shaded.

>>399427624
And what's wrong with cel-shading?

>>399427935
It fails at trying to replicate 2d artstyles, they look very off in 3d without tampering. I'd seriously prefer a VR game use cardboard cutouts over cel shading.

>>399428609
Oh, you are that guy from before. I remember you.
But haven't you been btfo? The conclusion of the last discussion was that "anime-like" artstyle can definitely work in 3d.

>>399429086
There's a reason why CG in anime trying to act 2D is frowned upon.
You and many others don't mind it for the lack of a better option, I understand, if devs had a magic drawing filter for every game you would be repulsed by this cel shaded look too, but we don't live in that reality.
I'd post the webm of someone looking around a 360° anime drawing with a girl and you on a bike to illustrate my point but I can't find it.

>>399431278
>There's a reason why CG in anime trying to act 2D is frowned upon.
The only problem with CG in anime is low budget. If you spend the same amount of money on hand-drawn stuff it will look equally as bad. So it's not a fair argument.
>if devs had a magic drawing filter for every game you would be repulsed by this cel shaded look too, but we don't live in that reality.
I don't even understand what are you trying to say here.
Just look at this webm for example, and try to tell me that it doesn't look at least half decent.
The point is not to create literal 3d anime, just an appealing art-style.

>>399432249
What is this from?

>>399432249
Even the best looking 3D anime looks off, so not really.
The point of this style was always to translate anime into 3d games.
Imo, the best options for "anime" games Final Fantasy style or Kingdom Hearts or Mega Man Legends or Dragon Ball Origins, outline shaders look especially bad for this purpose so ditching them is necessary.

>>399434668
Some vtuber trash. I don't really know myself.
The watermark says "沙花叉クロヱ3D".
I've saved it because I thought it looked pretty.

>>399435182
Ahh, that retarded baseless opinion again. I'm done.

>>399434668
Sakamata Chloe from Hololive. Her 3D model debut.

>>399435443
I'm just stating my opinion man :(

>>399436001
You cannot just say "that looks bad" and then post shit like >>399435182 and expect people to take you seriously.
I don't understand your weird obsession with "anime" too. Any stylization is fine as long as it looks good.

>>399427624
Flat Adult-games mostly suck as it is. It doesn't matter if it's Jap or Weg, the blending of porn and videogame rarely produces something greater than the sum of it's parts. Most of them fall into one of the following:
>3d Animation viewer with no gameplay
>Visual novel that barely counts as a game
>Platformer with gameover 2d animations
>Shitty RPG with easter egg hunt for CGs
>Text-based erotic CYOA game
>Garbage tier asset flip with some nude character models included
We already have some VR examples of the first two and I can't think of how VR would meaningfully improve any of the others as they are. Some adult games do have mechanics that integrate porn in a way that is satisfying and addicting but many of those use a third person perspective, some are text only and I can't think of any good ones that are fully in 3d. Translating those successful mechanics into VR is a lot tougher than just adding some titties into Skyrim. Worst of all the only thing harder than making a good adult game or VR game is justifying why you should try to do both when VR is still niche and a lot of people simply do not pay for porn.

>>399436464
Bad and good are subjective, and 90% of /v/ would agree that that style is great and underused.

>>399440263
why pay for some shitty game, or even spend time pirating it if you can just go to Just H Party and catch yourself cute mute to fap to in 10 minutes? Porn games will not have this level of interactivity until we get general AI.

>>399443932
>this level of interactivity
What level of interactivity?
Once you are no longer 14 year old, just looking at boobs is not that exciting anymore.
The best faps you can have are when you are personally invested and stories are the best for that.

Just tried out Hard Bullet. I guess it's trying to be Blade and Sorcery with guns. Janky and not very interesting desu.

>>399447468
very janky. The base concept is there. If it was a gallery shooter with some B-tier story it might even work as a game

>>399447468
Lots more of these techdemo games. What would make people play more. WhaT VR genre outside of social VR will gain a following proper

>spend 6+ hours modding skyrim vr
>almost complete, start playing more and more
>realize even with all that mods it's still just skyrim in the end
>delete after 30 mins

>>399465546
>He hasn't played Enderal

Does ChilloutVR and NeosVR allow loli avatars?

This is very important

>>399469484
Wrong thread

>>399469484
ChilloutVR is german laws which are fairly strict. Fully clothed probably ok

>>399469484
>>399475395
Pedos unwelcome
>>>/trash/

>>399475523
pedos run this thread

>>399390070
Just picked this up recently and I can finally beat the easy AI consistently after a bit of practice. Shits cash. Once I stop feeling like an uncoordinated fool I'm looking forward to challenging randos

>>399485208
i wanted to get it .. but i have cats that really seem to want to get stepped on (in the only large enough area i cant lock them out of)

Any itch.io or Sidequest hidden kino that you've found?
Also, Virtua Sonic anon, I'm not sure how to do the anime run thing, I just come to a stop very soon after I do it either way specified.

do any of you know how fix to the g2 right controller not turning on?
when i manage to turn it on it works fine

>>399447468
Yeah, I played it for like 10 minutes then realised it was just a tech demo, and not a very good one at that. It also seems to be trying to become some sort of torture simulator looking at some of the stuff you can do in it.
>>399465546
That's why I can't be arsed trying out all the sex mods in Skyrim, it just seems like too much work with very little payout.

>>399447468
>>399505564
looked at the trailer too, unfortunate that it's so janky because the idea of a sandbox b&s gun game sounds pretty fun if it was done correctly
really itching to shoot stuff again

>>399274414
Reminder! Lobby today!

>>399466213
does it work with the vr version?

>>399517421
Yes, Bowling event starts at 20 UTC, so we start the lobby at 18 UTC!

>>399517490
With the VR patch, yeah. Play Vigilant too.

>>399257280
You could try hosting a lobby and people from here would probably join, if you want to give it another try.

My Oculus rift S just got cucked by the Zucc. I have to get a meta account or I cant play.
Currently Im managing by playing offline.
Any way around this or will I have to get a new vr set?

>>399525509
Just get a Meta account you pussy, what are you so scared of Zucc for?

>>399525995
I am not going to.

friendly fire bonks never stops amusing me

>>399525509
You have until the end of the year and I'm hoping that blocking internet access will keep it working afterwards.

>>399526152
You didn't answer my question.

>>399526321
I have autism and just wont

>>399525509
just make a new empty FB account m8. not like you're gonna use it or anything
last I logged to FB was years ago

>>399525509
There is no difference between an oculus account and a meta account, same data goes in the same pace.

what floor pads are you guys using? I'm using pic rel and kinda wondering if there are better alternatives

>>399534059
I don't have any myself but I was always thinking about getting pic related

>>399534059
i'm just using a plain carpet with an antislip mesh underneath

>>399538917
I've had those for a while and it is good for covering a large area. I recently switched to a big cushy high pile rug though, which is a slightly more classy look.

>>399534059
I have a small center rug that I use but it keeps slipping on my hardwood floor. Any tips?

>>399539780
any hardware store will sell you antislip rubber mesh, either explicitly for carpets, or as drawer liners.

>>399465546
Get
Alternate Start (Realm of Lorkhan)
As the name says alternat start with some extras.
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/18223
and
Dealing with backstories https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/61106
A way to craft your backstory and get positive and negative effects based on it, fast track to level 20.

The issue with Skyrim is, it sucks until Level 20 and the starting sequence and tutorial dungeon are just annoying after the 90th time.

Payday 2 VR in 1 hour bros!

Skyrim mods?

how do you play Doom64 in VR? I've seen a webm of someone playing it before

I use the GZdoom VR mod to play regular/normal wads, but I don't have a weapon pack for Doom 64 Retribution, am I playing the right way? (this wad also has crappy music, not the atmosphere one from the original)

>>399543868
i think i'll be like 10 minutes late probably, i started dinner a little late

>>399547761
enjoy your food anon!

Payday 2 VR now! Come steam group for VC!

>>399534059
you guys use floor mats? i just stand barefoot on the hard floor

>>399543868
>>399549402
gee gee! payday3vr is gonna be so much fun

>>399549402
gg and thanks for hosting!

>>399558672
hot

>>399570807
i can emotionally relate to that image

>>399570974
who do you picture yourself as? The cat or the one pulling the cat away

>>399571604
the cat of course

>>399571980
its for the best

Buying a g2 soon. Probably without controllers for 500.
Gonna get valve index conrollers and base station too.
Based or not?

>Buying a g2 soon
Big mistake.

>>399590341
No, bad idea you fucking retard. You need the G2 controllers to calibrate the Index controllers if you wanted to go with a mixed VR setup and to do certain basic functions in setup.

It's 400 dollars brand new on HP's website right now with everything. Hell, on ebay it's even cheaper. Why would you buy one without controllers for 500?

>>399558672
Pic related can be found for cheap, and is 10/10 comfy to walk/dance/stand on. Also sound dampening. It's what I use, with a carpet on top.
>>399559270
It will, I hope it has VR support on release, but a injector for VR in any Unity game was also released, so future is bright.
>>399559823
It was fun, good heisting!

>>399590589
I live in europe. We are taxed hard by kikes. Most sites list the g2 at 700. Fucking disgusting.
So I cant calibrate without the g2 controllers?

also im kinda afraid to buy used vr stuff.

>>399590589
>It's 400 dollars brand new on HP's website right now with everything.
Checked that shit. I can only preorder for 610. Gotta pay 60 extra for fucking 2 miserable years of warranty.

this is disgusting.

Games for this feel?

>>399595751
Not only that is a furry trash, but also a repost.
Dis-fucking-gusting.

I would like to drink and play pavlov. Is there going to be drunk pavlov tonight or do I have to play with pubbies?

>>399590341
>>399594308
>>399594917
The G2 is trash.

>>399599398
explain why

>>399590341
why not get a Q2? it's wireless

>>399599686
I hate facebook, it would be a pcvr, I want clear picture, wires wouldnt bother me much.
Maybe Q2 would be the smartest decision but I want something better. Also q2 is around 500 here.

>>399600234
Just buy G2.
I kinda want to see you suffer now.

>>399600321
Why are you such an insufferable cockroach?

>>399599549
Bad tracking. WMR software. Gets really hot. Small FOV. Small center of focus or whatever it was called. Unrealistic GPU requirements. You will experience audio issues.

>>399599549
>>399600610
By the way facebook or chinksets are even worse. Just wait for the new index or for a cheaper varjo.

>>399600601
Eat shit, newfag. You don't want to read the old threads. When multiple anons spoonfeed you that G2 is shit, you still don't listen.
You deserve it at this point.

>>399600610
>Bad tracking.
G2 V2 got better +Ican use index controllers and base station
>WMR software
I think you no longer forced to start up that trash
>Gets really hot
Thats kinda normal, right?
>Small FOV
I asked others about that and they said its fine and compared to the other HMDs it is kinda normal/avg. Its not a pimax/varjo fo sure.
>Small center of focus or whatever it was called
Whats that?
>Unrealistic GPU requirements
Every high res VR got that? Why would g2 need more gpu compared to other 2000x2000+ hmds?
>You will experience audio issues.
Well thats completly new. They told me its audio is pretty good.
Maybe g2 v2 fixed lots of problems?
Is every HMD a pos with cons? Do I have to pay 1500+ for a decent one? Current gpus cant even max out a g2.
>>399600732
>By the way facebook or chinksets are even worse.
So you wouldnt touch a q2?
>Just wait for the new index or for a cheaper varjo.
Well maybe thats what Im going to do. I tought the g2 is pretty awesome except the tracking which can be fixed with lighthouse and other controllers.

>>399600773
You will die as a virgin you ugly shitstain.

>"You will die as a virgin"
>he thinks fucking women is an achievement
Don't even deserve a (You), go buy G2.

>>399593858
I use this exact one as well
It's comfy enough I throw some pillows against the wall and lie down to read or use a laptop

Go marry your 3d anime waifu you lil cunt. Dont sperg out on me because Im trying to start up some consvervation about a hmd on a relevant board. I know you are bullied irl and no one likes you and you are angry at the world.

Maybe its time to work on yourself you lil unwashed ugly goblin. Go stare at the mirror in vrchat and have steamy vrsex with middle aged dudes larping as women.

>newfag frognigger projecting again

The only thing im not sure about you is if you are some 120lbs dyel tiny loser or some fat jabba the hut type loser.

Just so you know I am jacked, shredded and get lotta womanly attention and I will buy a 4090 soon because I can afford it.

Have fun with your animus.

Your smell of insecurity is almost suffocating. You need to go back.

>You need to go back.
This is my new home now. We gonna be friends.

skyrim moment

>>399608569
looks more like a british moment

>>399594308
You can, I use the headset itself to calibrate. It's best if you have a spare vive or tundra tracker that you can keep attached to it.

>>399609298
All tech is for furries, newpedofag.

>>399609646
Why not combine the two. Any good cubfucking VR games?

>>399609715
VTOL VR
Bean Stalker

>>399609010
Thx dude. Why anons so against the g2? Got pretty good reviews on youtube/plebbit. It seems like any other better option costs over 1500. Index is fine but the res is low.

>>399610454
The G2 is a fine headset but the controllers don't track well.

>>399610454
The same reason as any consolewar on /v/g/. When you have spent hundreds of dollars on something you have to defend it to justify your purchase.

>>399610454
>>399600610

>>399610506
Yeah thats a legit problem but you can just use other controllers + base station.
It seems like every brand comes with some cons. If I could buy a Q2 for 300 I would just do that and upgrade next year.
Clarity is kinda important to me.

>1660 Ti
>no point in getting more than a Q2
I say this is a win win

>>399610629
Well Im just trying to find the best bang for my buck and have nice graphics.
>>399610970
Those are some legit concerns but some of them doesnt make any sense. VR has brutal gpu req, it has nothign to do with g2. Rendering 5k @ 180fps is too much for even the 3090ti. Luckuly new gpus coming and Im ready to get into VR now.
A asked about the low fov multiple times and anons told me its ok, almost same as other hmds. Thinner padding will get you a couple extra degrees.
First time Im hearing about audio problems.

>>399612316
I'd recommend removing the FOV spacer that the V2 comes with. The V1 had a really chunky facial interface, but the V2 makes that chunkiness optional and gives you a much better FOV. Horizontally testing it in the SteamVR Home FOV room I get 88 degrees horizontal vs. 91 degrees with the Index. Only use the spacer if you wear glasses or something. If you get the V1 for whatever reason at least 3D print something like https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4700782 and attach an aftermarket pad.

>retarded dunning-kruger know-it-all newfag trying to "argue" with people who have been using vr for years using second-hand knowledge from youtube shills
it's so tiresome

>>399612663
shut the fuck up poverty pajeet. nobody likes you

>just getting VR and PC
>calls others poor
the irony
you really like to project, huh?
that was a rhetorical question, don't reply to my posts ever again, dicksucker

>>399613557
nigger you are so butthurt its entertaining. go back to your poverty setup and leave the adults alone.
your fuckign reddit talk and disgusting lowlife frustrated nigger attitude doesnt provide anything productive to this thread.

good analogy for your miserable existence. fucking ugly goblin manbaby.

didn't read
I told you not to reply to me ever again, subhuman.

>>399612526
thx! I guess the new 4k series is going to provide plenty of power for vr. im kinda excited

>>399614175
irl your wouldnt even dare to look me in the eyes. go back to your poverty setup I bet you live with your mom you cunny poster degenerate deadend.

>>399614594
Fuck off back to the shithole you've crawled from.

>all those people who pay for $300+ in trackers just so they can show they're sitting all day in VRChat
Any actual games besides Blade & Sorcery that support leg tracking? Hell, hip tracking? It bothers me how many VR FPS titles don't support leaning without your virtual body shifting along with you, defeating the whole point of leaning.

Q2 peasant seething. Must suck to be poor.

>>399615819
Vrchat is filled with the trash of mankind. Sims are the peak of vr experience anyway.

>>399615819
I believe you can make every game support hip tracking to a degree with natural locomotion and a tracker. It's more so that it just decouples your head and waist so you can do stuff like look forward, turn your head, and still be going forward without needing to adjust your stick due to your head orientation changing. If you're hoping for something like being able to actually lean and corner peek though, then you'll be disappointed.

>>399618056
>It's more so that it just decouples your head and waist so you can do stuff like look forward, turn your head, and still be going forward without needing to adjust your stick due to your head orientatio
Of all the VR games I've played, only Serious Sam bothered to offer a solution to this, which is playspace-based orientated movement, rather than only HMD or controller-relative. Worked great for me since I generally just face the one direction when VRing shit that doesn't need me to physically move about.

Also it's been awhile. I need to host a Sam night or some shit this month. Can even let pancake users in to fill a lobby up for bro-op shenanigans.

>>399618858
Some games let you map your movement orientation to the controller you use for it instead of your head, but while some people like it I sure don't.

The decoupled waist and head is a small thing but it adds a lot and you start to really notice its absence if you get used to it and then try without it.

>>399615819
That kung fu game

>>399544363
>Dear Diary VR
why didn't nobody tell me about this, this is so much more soulful than darkui

Thoughts on the VAL/VSS in ITR? Any good?
Obviously the VSS is 10x more kino, but no fullauto mode?

>>399631602
fullauto is a waste in itr, never had a situation where i needed it for any gun

>>399631602
never used them but sniping is pretty good even with a single bolt action. I used AK74M until sec level 5 where I got DVL

Is using 40-50% of the battery in about 40 minutes right for the Quest 2 when playing something through Virtual Desktop at 90fps?

>>399635915
yes. without extra batteries Q2 only lasts for ~2 hours.

>>399601879
>+Ican use index controllers and base station

Yeah I thought about doing that too, unless I actually did my research on what I need and how it works, and dropped that option immediately. As for WMR you're never going to avoid it on a WMR headset ever. No it's not normal to get as hot as it does. FOV is decent I guess. Center of focus I meant to say the sweet spot where the picture is clear. Meaning you can't really look around with your eyes and see shit, you have to keep your eyes in the center and move your head instead. The G2 needs a better GPU than anything else almost because WMR eats your performance and the lenses are incredibly high res. The audio is pretty good yes until you start having issues . Every HMD is a POS with cons yes. I wouldn't buy anything facebook or chinese ever under no circumstance. The G2 is pretty decent for it's price (for simracing at least), but when you add lightouses and other controllers, you might as well buy an Index at that point. And if you're buying an index, then you might as well wait for a new one. If you don't want to wait then I GUESS the G2 is DECENT on it's own for the money, but it's not worth it investing in lightouses and other controllers.

>>399612316
>VR has brutal gpu req, it has nothign to do with g2

Yes it does, because WMR + the lens design. The new HTC headset for example is more GPU friendly than the G2, when in paper it shouldn't be. The low FOV is alright I guess, but those other shit eaters are comparing it to facebook garbage. I just put it in there to shit on the G2 as much as possible, because as soon as I bought mine I realized I should have went for an index, regardless of how much more clear the picture is. Although as I said at this point I wouldn't get an index but instead wait for something new to come out.

But hey that's just my personal opinion. If you don't want to wait, or are an adult with a job that can upgrade once the new better headsets are out, get a G2.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu7RXlIEbog
Lmao this is the avg Q2 shill.

>>399643000
Why is this getting spammed allover 4chan all of a sudden, even though these videos have been made for years?

>>399475395
>>399469484
There is no restriction of what you upload, just be sure it is properly tagged on upload

>>399643394
zoomers

feeling kinda tired

Just started playing ITR, what are the fags for? Ambiance? I lit one and put it to my mouth but it didn't seem to do anything.

>>399615819
The Deep Rock Galactic VR mod lets you use trackers on your feet to kick things around. It's genuinely useful with some missions like egg collection and point extraction as you can keep your gun out while dribbling alien eggs towards the mule.

>>399631602
I bought Vintorez the very first second I've saved up enough money, and I was sticking with it until the end of the game. I liked it for fun and feels, but to be entirely honest, good old AK is just plain better, more versatile, easier to handle in panic mode, more useful in situations you weren't planning to end up in. VSS is only good for long range and optimally without being detected, as expected.

Still, it's a cool gun and it makes you feel cool, so if you like it all that much, go for it.

>>399658271
used to replenish food and sleep, should still replenish food a little since sleep seems to not exsist anymore

>>399637803
I think that lighthouses and valve controllers are always worth investing in, simply because you can use them with the Deckard when/if it comes out due to all lighthouse gear being forward compatible.

Waiting however is dumb when the Deckard hasn't even been announced yet and could easily end up like HL2 Episode 3, L4D3, and numerous other Valve projects that get canned partway through development. The best move right now IMO would be to just get a Quest 2 cheap and get rid of it when something better comes out rather than not having VR at all.

>>399658271
make you look like a badass

>>399658572
Follow up question, are those injector things the only healing item?
>>399658689
Fag in one hand, gun in the other, shooting weird shadow people in russia.

>>399659067
there is a regen artifact and the healing station at base, other than that the injectors are your go to healing option
you could enable healing through sleeping

>>399659281
Oh yeah, I got the healing artefact but I may have used a bunch of it up by accident...

tfw too sick to play vr

>>399660137
get better soon anon

>>399660137
tfw one of my controllers died for no reason and won't turn on.

>>399637803
Well thank you for writing up that well thought out review. You make it sound like it's a trash and regret buying it
. Now I dunno what to do.
>No it's not normal to get as hot as it does.
Is there a chance you got unlucky with the chip lottery or yours is kinda faulty?
Considering you also have sound problems.
>Center of focus I meant to say the sweet spot where the picture is clear. Meaning you can't really look around with your eyes and see shit, you have to keep your eyes in the center and move your head instead
That sound extremely crappy again. Is this normal with other hmds too?
>not worth it investing in lightouses and other controllers.
Ok for now I only consider a g2 alone with a new gpu and wait. Or maybe not even that. Vr is the only reason I would upgrade.
>Yes it does, because WMR + the lens design. The new HTC headset for example is more GPU friendly than the G2, when in paper it shouldn't be.
Is wmr such a performance hog? With v2i think you no longer has to start it up. Why would lens design make it more needy than other 2kx2k lenses or even the vives 2400x2400? Sorry but I can't find any info on this.

You really make it sound like it's a trash hmd. Not even that cheap anymore... Atleast here. Maybe I will try to grab a used cheapo g2 or q2 for now and invest more heavily into a hmd the next year when the new gens debut.

>>399546527

bump, can anyone help?

>>399650020
*Reddittors

>>399663689
I mean I still had a lot of fun in simracing with it regardless. Even though I can't get stable fps even with a 6900xt. I don't know if it's just mine that gets hot. The sounds problems by the way I'm exaggerating, it's just cracking noise when moving the phones, because they're flimsy pieces of shit and the way they're attached to the headset is not that good. When they're situated in place they sound good still. The sweet spot is normal with other hmds, although I don't know to what extent. Looking at reviews for newer or more expensive ones though, they have better sweet spots, that's why I'd say wait. An example of WMR being shit is opencomposite, which bypasses steam vr and WMR and uses openxr directly.

https://gitlab.com/znixian/OpenOVR/-/tree/openxr#downloading-and-installation

This bitch alone gives you 5-10 fps more, and it can go higher. And 5-10 fps is a big difference for VR, since you always want your FPS to be locked at what your refresh rate setting is. With the G2 for simracing I have it set to 60hz and I need 60fps at all times. If it drops to 55 it's ass. This opencomposite shit is only for a few simracing games though, and using it you use some other functionality with the controllers and shit. I don't know what v2i is. As for lens design I'm not some nerd and I don't remember, but something about barrel distortion. Proven by the fact that the Vive Pro 2 has higher res lenses, but performs better.

It's not really a trash HMD still. Better than facebook shit at least. A used cummed on headset I personalyl would never get, but if you must, at least make sure you're getting a v2 and not a v1 G2. I'm waiting for the jewvidia 4k series GPUs too so I can get rid of this dogshit 6900xt as soon as possible. And when a new good headset comes out I'm dumping the G2 asap.

If you're not that pressed about money you should probably get a G2 and upgrade in 1-2 years when something new is out.

Does anyone know why quest 2 virtual desktop is considered unpiratable?
How exactly the DRM works?

>>399666571
Also usually people would recommend a Q2 instead, beceause cheaper and who the fuck knows why else, but me personally I can't. Becuase I haven't researched it, and also I go by the fuck reddit/facebook/etc rule. All in all if I had to rate the G2 I'd say it's a solid 6.5/10. Like it's shit but not that shit. Probably worth a buy if you're not a poorfag that will breakdown in tears in case you end up being disappointed.

>>399666853
I recommend the q2 and pico to people who don't yet know if they like vr. Its a cheap investment and if one doesn't like it, the demand on the second hand market is there and its something one can gift to a nephew, where people interested in a Pimax, Index, G2... wont buy second hand and its nothing you just give to a 13 year old

>>399668359
I aint giving shit to no 13 year old unless his mom sucks my dick.

>>399669660
That is why nobody invites you to the family dinners.

>>399677239
How did you know that? I didn't share that with anyone in here.

>>399022724 (OP)
guys I really really ttried to make sense on the vr headset options available but it just got me more and more confused when I looked on some troubleshoot/setup guides for each one

I basically just want to do two things
1. play cracked/pirated games (without steam), I mean the real games are important like project wingman, project cars or skyrim vr I do not care about apk games at all
2. watch occasionally vr porn

It does not need to be the absolute best hardware-wise but the easier the installation the better especially for those two requirements I posted

what would you guys recommend?
I just can't get my head around it

>>399686647
oh yeah I have a 3070 so I don't really care about the hardware requirements

>>399686647
>>399687408
>oh yeah I have a 3070 so I don't really care about the hardware requirements
>project wingman
you'll be surprised

anyway, there are two headset options that matter (aside of simfag-only reverb): one is index, another is quest 2. You should get quest 2

>3070 so I don't really care about the hardware requirements
Should we tell him, bros?

>>399687943
>anon buys gpu and it sets him back so hard he can't even afford games anymore
>tell him
you monster. also, 3070 shouldn't be all that bad, most games will run at solid 120 and steamvr always has a resolution slider for more problematic titles

contractors star wars

>>399688453
Assuming Q2, solid 120hz is just not happening in 95% of the titles with 3070.
Unless you push the res way below "native".
Even at 90hz, you would have to go below it very often, if not close to always.

>>399687772
thanks for the info, but the quest 2 seems to need all that facebook fuckery, and apparently you even need to put on a credit card wtf. Does Oculess even work anymore?
also whats the best vr media player for video atm?

>>399687943
you are kidding right the 3070 was the most expensive card buyable at the time I should be getting 144fps on everything maxed out

>>399689141
>you are kidding right the 3070 was the most expensive card buyable at the time I should be getting 144fps on everything maxed out
Q2 "native" rendering resolution is 5408x2736, that's almost 15 million pixels.
For comparison, 4k is just 8.3million pixels.

VR is the only valid reason to upgrade GPU's at this point. For everything else even 3060ti is close to overkill.

>>399689571
>VR is the only valid reason to upgrade GPU's at this point
Which'll become a moot point once foveated rendering/VRS is standard.

>>399689571
DOULBE THE RESOLUTION OF 4 FUCKING K!

what the hell is going on, I thought my setup would be overkill for at least 2-3 years ;_;

>>399688846
Noice. Contractors is doing what Pavdon't

>>399690029
It would not. VR graphics are very "barebones" compared to normal PC games.
The 30-40% (best case) headroom from foveated rendering will be eaten by the devs so fast, you wouldn't even notice.

>>399689571
This really fucking bothers me because the games I play aside from VR are HOMM3 and Diablo 2 (non resurrected). Faggot VR is the only reason i need the top best GPU and it's still not enough. I fucking hate VR.

>>399690095
Imagine how pixelated your PC display would be if you'd stretch it enough to cover your entire field of view, this stretch is pretty much what VR headset does. No wonder resolution is an important thing like that. That being said, you can crank it down and render in more reasonable resolutions - of course there is a image quality drop but hey, first gen VR was pretty much fullHD and it was just as fun as it is now.

>>399689141
Index it is, then. That'll be $999, but you get the best package possible.

When the fuck is Pavlov getting updated jesus christ

>>399690530
>VR graphics are very "barebones"
depends. Skyrim with 8K textures, enb and dylod with 250% upscale was the first time I saw my old trusty 1080ti stutter

>>399690749
hmm but won't I need steam installed then?
I don't ever use steam and play pretty much only offline games and most of the are cracked for convenience

>>399691025
Most of those 8k texture mods for Skyrim look worse than a AAA game's 2k texture.

>>399691208
You'll need SteamVR to play any game on Index, also any game on WMR, and many non-native games on Oculus. SteamVR is the most commonly used system in games, even Oculus runs most games through SteamVR, only some games are running native Oculus implementations.

I don't think you'll find what you're looking for.

>>399631602
It hits like a truck. VSS does slightly more damage than the VAL. It's a good weapon but I found the sights and such are set too far back and with it being quite a short gun I could never aim it comfortably. My love will always be the tiger rifle and my daily driver was the spaz so take what I say with a grain of salt.

>>399691772
>even Oculus runs most games through SteamVR, only some games are running native Oculus implementations.
That's not true. The legacy OVR is as common as steamvr.
Nowadays facebook pushes OpenXR, which is good but not very common yet.

>>399691439
Its always individual perception, but Skyrim modders are a different breed.

>zucc forgot two boxes of quest pro at the hotel
Oops.

>>399691772
>even Oculus runs most games through SteamVR
OVR/XR. Everything available on Oculus's marketplace requires native support for the Oculus API also.

>>399693069
Yeah I bet he did.

>>399693069
>Engineering sample
>"Retail" consumer box style
>256gb
Yeah no.

>>399691772

I don't really get so there is no option of piracy at all. So all games played though vr need bought games top play?

man vr just lost all appeal to me

>>399697172
steamvr is a good boy that will not only run your pirated game, but will also suggest you the community rebinds
but anyway, vr is not a hobby for dumbasses or poorfags

>>399697172
steamvr is just the vr runtime, and PCVR games are just exes. piracy works fine.

>>399697551
it's really time consuming to find the most recent info related to the product for sure

for ex how it connects with various games, extra account and services and background need, you need to register with an account obligatory for whatever the fuck reason

I expected it to be a bit more streamlined and less of a fucking hassle in every way


>>399697716
that's good to know thanks

as it stand now I saw that locally someone selling a quest2 for 300 and an old oc rift for just 100 I just get either one to just play around a bit to make it work I guess, thanks for all the info guys

>>399698361
If by oc rift you mean the Rift CV1, don't bother with it. Its got a short cable, and the IR webcams it uses are extremely fucking fussy with USB bandwidth requirements. You also can't get replacement parts for it, especially the cable.

>>399525509
Anon, try dashkiller. Loads straight to steamvr, and bypasses any bullshit they try and do to kill it-- only, you have to reinstall every other week.

>>399525509
Zucc will know about the furry futa porn you fapping to 3 times a day. There is nothing you can do about it. Zucc will watch and laugh.

>>399689571
It should be known that VR has some of its own tricks to help with scaling, such as single pass stereo rendering, which don't make it as huge a jump as one would think if the developers properly optimize. But VR is still crazy demanding. Going for high res VR HMDs is like buying a 4k monitor when they were first starting to come out and make the rounds. GPUs struggled to properly meet the computational demands.

If the next gen of GPUs are truly as insane a jump as it's looking and something like the 4090 is 80-90%+ the 3090, we may be at the point where GPU power will catch up with VR demands and run things comfortably even on demanding things. Especially considering foveated rendering.

>tried to phasmophobia in vr
>spent an hour and a half getting a microphone to work
>got startled in the safehouse by the door spooker
>go into training
>hear little girl laugh and emf detector shitting itself
>I open the bedroom door
>have to put my flashlight on the ground
>decide I'm too chickenshit to go back in
How the fuck do I build the resolve, god damn. I keep trying to get into spookyVR and it's a whole different thing from just regular spooky on a screen.

>>399707226
play with friends
its best to be spooked by friends

>>399707207
I wouldn't be optimistic.
VR needs physics, good physics with a lot of objects is only possible on gpu.
VR needs lighting, good dynamic lighting needs raytracing which is on gpu.
VR needs to shade a lot of pixels, that's work for the gpu too.
Add to that high refresh rates and you will soon realize that it doesn't matter how much power GPU has, VR could always use even more.

>>399708017
Of course we can always use better, even on flatscreen we still need 'more' when it comes to something like 4k Raytracing. But just because we don't have the absolute peak of something doesn't mean it won't look and play 'good' or at least feel like we don't have to make massive compromises to be playable.

Raytracing, I'll give you in that unless there's some kind of breakthrough to offer absurd performance savings, it'll be a while till we get that in a practical manner for VR. But we'll be more than capable of making high quality, good looking games which also can be driven without insane compromise if we have GPUs that're going to get 60%+ gen on gen performance from what we have now. Maybe not running everything on maxed ultra at above 90hz, but we won't have to crater settings or spend a long time tweaking individual settings. Hell, even MSFS, which is probably the most taxing VR game around, should be runnable at 75-90FPS with good settings at G2 levels of resolution on the highest end cards if they got that big of a jump. More if you consider some people are getting 60+ with DLSS or foveated rendering already.

>>399709278
Just not going to happen. You will see.
Overdosing on hopium is just naive.

>>399709727
>>399709278
What is this conversation about? What are you saying is terrible cuz Alyx alone proves physics, animation, and graphics can be superb and that was developed in the last 10 years.

>>399710786
You don't know what you are talking about.
Alyx is prebaked to hell, has shit physics with objects phasing through walls and is still VERY hard to run if you disable the dynamic resolution stuttering gimmick.
I don't think even 3090 is enough to run it at 120hz native Q2 res.

>>399711165
>you're not allowed to use all the tools at your disposal to make VR look good
What are you on about? Alyx DOES look good, and doesn't need a beast rig to do it.

>>399709727
Too much cynicism is bad for you anon.

I have a 3090 TI running a headset which is dual 4k per eye, more like 5k by 3k after barrel distortion at 90hz and it runs almost everything I throw at it shockingly well with foveated rendering to tack on another 20-30% performance. Maybe not maxed ultra or MSFS, but the majority of stuff I'm running on higher settings fairly comfortably and they look good. And even if you're not taking leaks into account the node jump from Ampere to Lovelace is ridiculous, plus AMD's own MCM design. They would have to screw up to not have a gigantic performance jump.

>>399711507
I hope so much that the flagship gets it 48 Gig of VRAM, that would finally justify getting a new gpu

>>399711337
Alyx is just smoke-and-mirrors game created by the best devs in the industry. Once you start looking closely, illusion breaks instantly.
And it still needs a beast rig.
I'm all for solving technical problems creatively, but unfortunately it's just not possible with the state of the game industry.

>>399711507
>Too much cynicism is bad for you anon.
I'm just realistic and know what I'm talking about, because I'm a graphics developer myself.
>have a 3090 TI running a headset which is dual 4k per eye, more like 5k by 3k after barrel distortion at 90hz and it runs almost everything I throw at it shockingly well
Post rendering resolution with framegraphs. I don't believe you.
"Everything runs well" usually comes from people with low standards, who just refuse to acknowledge obvious issues.

>>399712276
>it's all smoke and mirrors
You do realize that's what video games are, right? It's all window dressing for dice rolls. Does it bother you that magicians don't actually cast spells?

>>399712276
Could you post a rendered image of a scene you expect to run in VR at 144HZ in with 120fps that you would consider good looking?

>>399712527
>VR at 144HZ in with 120fps
Refresh rate and fps should be equal for VR.
>Could you post a rendered image of a scene you expect to run
Depends on the requirements.
With a static scene you can just precompute (aka prebake) everything, so it's not that much different from just rendering models with basic textures.
For truly dynamic scenes that is just not possible.
I'm personally consider interactivity to be most important, the graphics are second.

>>399712464
>You do realize that's what video games are, right?
Just like I've said, I'm all for solving technical problems creatively, but, for most devs, that is a lost art at this point.

>>399712276
>Muh cynicism is just being realistic
No, you're just a retard setting completely arbitrairy standards like>>399712464 has pointed out or not looking at what some other people have benchmarked. I'm not going to post a bunch of graphs just for your autism and rebenchmark all my games, but I have already when I was dialing in settings. Even more intensive modded maps on Pavlov and Contractors are smooth 90hz on high to max, Project Wingman's around 75, with some small dips to 60ish, on a mix of medium and high, same with modded Assetto Corsa. VRChat's inconsistent as hell and can still be murder, dipping into 45 or lower on heavier PCVR worlds. Worst I saw was about 30.

Give me another 50% and I'd be doing great everywhere but the most demanding VRChat worlds.

>>399713502
I am curious about what you expect to dynamically run in vr and would consider good looking, can be a prebaked static scene.
>I'm personally consider interactivity to be most important
so low poly with great physics and if possible interactive ray tracing usage before 16K texture pack high poly meshes walking simulator? Fair enough, but still curious, because personally I think the current state is pretty breath taking, especially with itr, modded skyrim, blade and sorcery and alyx

>>399714401
Don't really give a shit. I'm 20 times more competent than you.
If you are satisfied with
1) graphics of VR games.
2) the state of VR games themselves
3) performance of average VR game
it just tells me that you are cattle that is fine with eating low quality fodder. Your opinion is irrelevant.

>>399714640
>so low poly with great physics
Number of vertices doesn't really matter that much with the current hardware.
>I think the current state is pretty breath taking
Well, I guess I'm jaded then. Alyx is so-so, but everything else you've mentioned is just not that good. Especially if you consider the potential.

>>399715561
You are as stupid and jaded as the people who act like VR has to be perfect with SAO magic technology or nothing. Nobody ever said VR is perfect or cannot get better you pretentious moron.

>>399715561
I suppose I am easy to please then and still curious to see what somebody that isn't easy to please is considering good looking in vr.
Anyway, my q2 finished reloading, time to bonk more npcs on the head

>>399716223
my litmus was being able to read web pages comfortably and we've been there for years.

I would like the headsets to be lighter in general though.

>>399716025
> cannot get better
You think VR games grow on trees?
As long as cattle like you are fine with eating garbage, they will keep producing low quality fodder.
The games are objectively trash. Like you have to be braindead to enjoy 99% of VR games.
Things will only change if people of extreme competence and extremely high standards change them. Cockroaches like you don't help and only make things worse.
> VR has to be perfect with SAO magic technology or nothing
They have to be the best they can be. And we nowhere near close.
Until then we shouldn't be satisfied.

>>399717305
And what is this high standard supposed to look like. Give examples instead of just being a high horsed critic

>>399666571
Well I like to spend my money smart. I am not rich but I can afford to get myself a good vr standard pc now and a hmd.
If G2 wouldnt go up in price and could get one for 400-450 I would do that right now.

Thx I think I will go with this option but first I will wait for the 4k series release. I hope the prices will not go full retard. Eth merge is happening as well and new amd cpu release at the end of month. I believe 3090 levlel gpus going to fly for around 700 pretty soon.
Hell if the 4080/4090 is that strong and not over 2k I will get one as soon as we have other than FE versions.

Found some vids on the g2 sweet spot and its trully small and the edges are very blurry but I guess you can get used to moving your head instead of your eyes. Not ideal but usable for the price range.

>>399718127
>high standard supposed to look like
Hard to tell. Well, it's not about graphics for sure. So I think it is better to say "supposed to feel like".
The game has to feel alive. And it's not about realism too, it just has to be believable considering its own rules.

If you just look at current vr games, it feels like everything is made out of cardboard cutouts. There is no soul, even alyx, which many regard as the best vr game, is like that.
VR is the ultimate artistic media, considering its potential, we are just jerking off.

>>399712276
>And it still needs a beast rig.
Ran fine on my ancient quad core i5-4670 with a 1060 6gb on medium settings.
Not that everything-Ultra had any visual difference besides LoD distance and density of volumetric effects, which already looked great on medium.

>>399720752
By default the game uses dynamic resolution, it can run even on rx580.
But with it enabled, the game also tends to stutter.

>>399719979
Striving for holistic perfection in art is foolish, its always individual perception which is by definition masturbation. I felt Alyx being one of the least alive, while itr with its sound design felt like the most alive. There is no holistic formula for the best game in a medium

>>399720912
I was playing it on a Rift CV1, and the game held 1280x1280 in both eyes for the majority of the run. Most was on the last section where you're running away from you-know-what did it start to get a little blurry in spots, but that also had a lot of props/animated environment elements going off along with a lot of dynamic light sources.

Still completely playable.

>>399721242
>Striving for holistic perfection in art is foolish
Is it? The art itself is foolish then.
You strive for perfection and get the best that you can make.
You think someone like Michelangelo was saying "yeah, that's good enough"?
You induce soul into your art through craftsmanship.
To create something exceptional striving for perfection is really the only way.

>>399721909
Art lies in the eye of the watcher, an artist is incapable of making anybody like or dislike something, he can just get closer to what he himself considers perfection, but never reaches it

>>399723201
Modern art take.
Traditional art, the art that was based on craftsmanship first-and-foremost, aka the real art, is not like that. I think it has something close to "objective beauty".

>wasting time arguing with a autistic troon between his rounds of VRChat grooming

>>399724270
Try again.

>playing ITR again after a long break
>saves got deleted in harddrive change so start fresh
>new tutorial is good, especially the one in the shooting range
>new areas look great
>new items are great
>new sounds are okay
>new enemy appearances are alright
But most importantly it FEELS good to be back in the radius. God damn I love this game. Unironically my favourite game of all time. Once I'm done with this run I'm going to go back to 1.0 and try that again.
Also pic related me hiding like a bitch when I accidentally threw the full box instead of the empty box of ammo on the fire.

>>399726239
Part of me kinda hopes when they're done with ITR2.0, they'd go back to 1.0 and at least fix some of the dumb physics problems it still had, like shit falling through the fall on the regular.

>>399726549
I want modding to improve to the point where custom maps is possible so we can get the 1.0 map in 2.0.

Doesn't look that bad honestly.

>>399727073
It looks amazing, it's the price that's the issue. If there were more VR games to play with it I'd probably buy it in a heartbeat but as it is I don't play enough VR to justify it.

>>399726239
same, it made it hard to enjoy other VR games.

>>399727073
I just mainly want to hear how bad the controller battery life is since they're now relaying video signals to the headset.

>>399728632
>they're now relaying video signals to the headset.
They do not. There is a chip inside, they track themselves.
I bet something like 7 hours.

>>399728782
Hopefully it's 8hrs at worst. The next holy grail for them would be designing a controller that is modular enough to support being either a left or right hand, vs. having to produce two distinct SKUs.

>>399727073
I don't like how there doesn't seem to be any light blocking from underneath. I wonder if those controllers are lighter or heavier than previous controllers.

>>399730331
I heard there's an optional light shield that is magnetic to attach to the headset in the box. Seems like it's gonna be an AR/VR headset so you would take off the light shield for AR and put it back on for VR.

>>399730575
That would make sense. Those also doesn't seem to be any room for IPD adjust by moving the lenses.

>>399731089
There is a dial at the top.

>>399731204
Oh, you're right. Neat.

>>399731204
I was hoping they'd move to motorized IPD given the Pro monicker since it has eye tracking, but that probably increased build complexity/weight too much.

>>399728486

>>399726239
I've not touched it since the update for 1.0 that made the load times no complete ass (at which point 2.0 was underway and I figure I'd wait for that). How's the performance of the game these days? My PC used to have to ride ASW on it which was annoying.

>>399726239
>mfw ITR is the first actual non porn and non VRC games I've tried on my Q2
>mfw no other games will ever compare

>>399742945
Heh

>>399743475
recommend some porn games, coomer.

>>399723852
>Traditional art [...] aka the real art
Scared, beaten retard. Go jerk off to a classicist column and pray it falls on you and kills you.

>>399749542
Shouldn't you be shitting on the canvas right now?

i absolutely hate the way enemy armor was implemented in itr

>>399748504
>koikatsu party
>pypy in vrc
>vr kanojo
>iragon
also I watch a lot of erotic hypnosis jASMR videos from dlsite

>>399752332
>pypy
bro?

>>399752693
no homo fr fr

>>399749659
I'd rather shit on you, lie down. Unless you enjoy that sort of thing, of course, we'll think of something then.

>>399754007
You are angry because you know that you will never produce anything of value.
Keep coping your with your incompetence, you talentless freak.

>>399752332
wtf is pypy

>>399754190
>no art comprehension
>no reading comprehension
If ignorance is bliss, I almost envy your borderline jhana. Please stop responding now, thanks.

>Still wasting time on the retard sniffing his own farts about 'real art'.

>>399754737
It's some /vrg/ dancing event I believe, he probably watches and jerks off in secret.

>>399754737
this is pypy. when I tried it I wasn't even horny.
yet for some reason the chick in the black dress with the fbt made me instantly hard just by leaning back and made me lost my focus. I literally stared at that avatar for the next 15 mins
and that's how I became a coomer in pypy

>>399755395
My bad. Speaking of art, anyone here found anything remotely profound in VR? Doesn't matter if it really is, just something that you felt was deeper than mainstream stuff. I thought Paper Beast would be this, but in the end it's just worse Samorost in VR and I'm also stuck on the turtle segment, what do you do there?

>>399719707
>4080/4090 is that strong and not over 2k

You mean to tell me these GPUs are expected to cost 2,000 bucks?

4k series leaks dropped. I bet some of you going to jump on these cards asap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_MIdFTM4OI
Experienced VR users what you think? Performance finally seems good enough for fancy VR gamig.
>>399756472
We live in clown times. Anything can happen. My optimistic guess would be used 3080tis for 500, 4080 for 900. 4090 1100. Eth dump, capitulating miners, nvidia trying to get rid of the 3k stocks could play relative cheap gpus into our hands.

>>399761014
>4090 1100
There is absolutely no fucking way that happens.

>>399761589
Yeah its wishful thinking category from my part. The 3k series prices dumped way less than I anticipated but I can still see gpu apocalypse happening. Maybe we gotta wait another couple months.

Maybe the 4k launches with over the top prices so nvjewia can press out every penny from the 3k stockpiles. If miners would start flooding the market with used gpus that would be great.

Found another chart its speculated to be the 3090 compared to the 4090.

>>399761014
If you think gpu mining is dead you couldn't be more wrong. eth is done, but there are others with a crypto mining industry behind worth billions of dollars that isn't just going quite into the night. As long as there is public suventioned energy, there is going to be gpu mining. Thank the socialists making it rational to waste energy on solving math puzzles.

4090 ti is going to be 2K+ if not closer to 3K, and if its having more than 30 gigs of vram, I am buying with my crypto gains

>>399762193
At the absolute best I see the 4080 and 4090 coming in at the MSRP of their last gen counterparts, that is to say, 700 and 1500 respectively. I think it's likely we'll see a slight increase though because of 'inflation' and if the GPUs are legitimately this insanely powerful, they can probably get away with it. No way the 4090 doesn't count at least several hundred dollars more than the 4080. If we go by current leaks and the 4080 comes in at around 15-16k Timespy Extreme, with the 4090 being around 19-20k, then that's around 20-25% difference. Even if you knock off a couple points cause synthetic benchmarks, there'll be a legit performance gap that's meaningful beyond just VRAM this gen. If Nvidia doesn't price the 4090 at at least 1.5x the 4080, and it'll likely be more, then there's no room for the eventual 4080 TI, remember the 4080 is the 103 die not the 102 like the 3000 series was, on price or performance. Nvidia's practically set themselves up for it because they can have a 256-bit 4080 with 16GB, a 320-bit 4080 TI with 20GB of VRAM, then the 4090 at 384-bit with 24GB of VRAM.
>>399762559
Ethereum going PoS will absolutely kneecap GPU mining and you're delusional if you think otherwise. Sure, some people will still mine, but a blow is being dealt that crypto won't recover from immediately.

>>399762920
Hashrate among obscure pow chains has been growing for half a year, nicehash like services see a significant influx, and my go to second hand hardware retailer that had a ton of used gpus last month has literally non anymore, stock gone. The majority of crypto miners don't trust pos and rightfully so and are not going to migrate

>>399762559
I never said its dead. I know the market works in cycles and the last one was extremely generous to miners which is a bummer because I got fucked out of mining due to shitty circumstances.
Becase gpu mining is a billions of dollars industry I can also see some unexpected coins to emerge and be the new stars of mining. Even if only 30-40% of eth mining migrates to other coins thats going to put a giant spotlight on them. It can happen naturally but in my opinion market manipulators will make it so thier investments will continue to make money.

Crypto winter might be here with some wild swings. We might have a 3-6-9 month window to stock up on cards before crypto mining rearrages itself. Maybe nothign will change and prices go only up. I hope not because Im planning to build back a 2-2,5-3k watt output gpu farm to milk the next cycle.
Good luck with your crypto I refused to sell at the top and fucked myself bad and now Im back to poverty region.

>>399763403
The 3-6-9 month started in May when you could get a used 3090 for about MRSP and looking at inflation and the failure of central banks attempt to influence it by attacking demand failed, nothing will change. //biz/

>>399762920
Well yeah, its nvidia se we can expect them to milk the market as much as they can. Even if msrp is going to be horror I can see some brutal miner sell off in the coming months which will eat into the 4k sales and bring the prices down. One can only hope and I will continue to do so. I wanna grab some 'cheapo' high end cards.

I never bought FE cards before and Im uncomfortable with the idea so Im going to be forced to wait anyway.
>>399763180
>and my go to second hand hardware retailer that had a ton of used gpus last month has literally non anymore, stock gone
In your humble opinion what does that mean? who buys these cards? 3k series barely dropped in price.

>>399764238
>Barely dropped in price
depends what timeframes you consider. MRSP for the 3090 was 1199, I saw used ones changing owners for 3250 in September last year and some sales listed at 1000 in June this year.
>Whose buying
people that need gpus. Gamers, vr fury fetishists, miners, graphic designers, ai engineers... Demand never really went down, the supply was just flooded briefly

>>399763938
>MSRP is now panic sale for 2 year old cards
That would be a terrible timeline. I cross my fingers and pray for longer crab market with some discount buy opportunities until late 2023.

>>399764746
gl, scalpers also still exist.

>>399764668
>buying a 3090 for 3250
Imagine that kek. Ive seen 3090s for 900 on ebay a couple days ago which is pretty good, considering this is cucked europe.

Yeah thats true the demand grown a lot sicne these cards can do ai and tech workers are just growing in numbers. Ive seen some small time miners selling whole rigs on ebay but they still demand unrealistic prices. I hope market makers will scare more miners into submission and cheapo 3090 can be had but Im still eyeing the 4090s or very least the 4080. Its going to elevate VR gayming to the next level.

>>399765194
Don't get your hopes up, if you get lucky you can maybe catch a scam wick on 30x0s similar to on 10x0s when the 20x0s were released, and looking at mining, the US seems to consider using executive power to ban mining, like China did for about 30 times.
>next level VR
I hope so, but having the hardware is one thing devs need to also make games

>>399761014
I really want to get a 4090 or at least a 4080 or something that would be better than my 6900xt piece of dogshit, although I live in cuck yurop and our cards will automatically cost 20% more. Then a store markup, then whatever the fuck jewvidia decide to overcharge for them. I also might need to upgrade my 850w PSU to something bigger too with these alleged housefires.

>>399762920
>256-bit 4080 with 16GB, a 320-bit 4080 TI with 20GB of VRAM, then the 4090 at 384-bit with 24GB of VRAM

Didn't people say a bus speed of 256-bit it not ideal for VR, hence why a 6900xt is worse than the jewvidia options, because they have it higher? So a 4080 wont be that good?

>>399768535
>I also might need to upgrade my 850w PSU to something bigger too with these alleged housefires.
Fuck me, the power draw on these cards is getting stupid, at least we don't seem too close to needing dedicated wall plugs for PCs just yet.

can an anon recommend me how to build a pc for VR? I know how to read specs but has zero knowledge about how to build a pc from scratch

>>399769740
>zero knowledge about how to build a pc from scratch
get a pre-build that meets your requirments.
Get it from a story that lets you tell them specifically what you need.

>>399769740
All depends on your budget. You can get almost everything for cheap except the gpu. You going to pay a lot for a decent gpu.

>>399769740
You basically want as good as you can reasonably afford. VR is computationally expensive.

>>399768535
>Didn't people say a bus speed of 256-bit it not ideal for VR, hence why a 6900xt is worse than the jewvidia options, because they have it higher? So a 4080 wont be that good?
It's not that, AMD just does not give a shit about VR compared to Nvidia, it's not exactly the bus. Nvidia's also using absurd amounts of L2 cache to make up for it. The raw bus scales slightly better at higher resolution, to where the 3080 10GB can come close to the 6900XT in a handful of things at 4k+, but the bus size alone is not what'll determine performance.

>>399727073
I'll probably get it as it's not like any other decent headsets are coming out and my Index is mostly dead. As long as it is less than the new Varjo I'm down.

>>399772621
Fuck it I'll just wait until babeltech do specific VR benchmarks before buying anything.

>>399773323
Just look at 4k benchmarks and you'll have a good idea of what the general trend is most of the time.

>>399773425
Nnah I'm not sure about that. I think I had looked at 4k benchmarks to decide if I should get a 6900xt or not, and that was wrong. Don't we need to look at 8k benchmarks for VR due to barrel distortion the huge amount of pixels required to render an image basically? And even then looking at flat benchmarks, even at 8k, I'm not sure is telling enough.

>>399755940
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1165850/IL_DIVINO_Michelangelos_Sistine_Ceiling_in_VR/ is neat if you want like an hour of narration about the Sistine Chapel for free. also https://store.steampowered.com/app/1098190/VersaillesVR__the_Palace_is_yours/ . As far as actual games, Outer Wilds with the VR mod is still just a fantastic game if you haven't played it before.

if you mean the turtles blowing in the wind, use the plants upwind to attach turtles to other turtles.

>>399600234
>I hate Facebook
Facebook has nothing to do with the Meta Quest 2. Facebook is just one of Meta's products. Do you not drink Pepsi because you hate Lay's chips (A subsidiary of PepsiCo)? That's how retarded you're being here.

>>399784583
you can't trick me. it's new name, but same zucc taste.

Anybody play Shores of Loci? Didn't even know it existed until today but it does look like my kind of game. even if it's only like 2 hours long according to the steam reviews.

>>399784090
I mean the part where oil falls out of the sky and there's a turtle waddling around being chased by something

I'm a bit tired, which game can I play while lying on my couch and staring at the ceiling of my living room?

>>399809918
I have an x box controller.

Tomorrow is Pavlov day

>>399810065
Vrc

>>399809918
Wrench

Asked before but is there any point to ATC commands on a normal runway or is it just RPing at that point?
>>399815703
Wait UE5 is finally fucking dropping? Content drought for 8 god damn months because of it

>>399843652
>Asked before but is there any point to ATC commands on a normal runway or is it just RPing at that point?
VTOL obviously

>>399843652
>Wait UE5 is finally fucking dropping?
Wait, what? Seriously? Where did they say that?

Oh man, can't wait for every single map to break and see how many maps we lose for good.

>>399843652
>Wait UE5 is finally fucking dropping? Content drought for 8 god damn months because of it
I can't wait for every map to take up a gigabyte instead of 300mb (instead of 80mb) just for being a basic recreation of a CS:GO map.

>>399845669
I'm going off what he said unless he just meant some /vrg/ thing. I don't see anything in the discord atm

>>399845946
He just meant that it's Tuesday, the day EU Pavlov gets played.
The UE5 update is still an unknown amount of time away because it's been bloated by the addition of matchmaking and a reworked workshop. There will be a beta before release for mappers to update their maps so it won't just come out of nowhere.

>>399788404
I bought it but haven't played yet like many shorter VR games

>>399689141

there is also the pico 3 and soon the pico 4. it has less standalone games but beside that it is superior to the zuckerberg quest.

>>399727073

if you care about price you should think about the pico 4

any games that have a great atmosphere where you can relax? like adventure games where you can relax in a bar or whatever.

What games have the most social interaction beside vr chat?

>>399768535
Is the 6900xt that bad for vr? Yeah eurocuck prices suck. I just got a letter that I owe 4200euro so there goes my vr budget...
Maybe I'm not be able to upgrade for a while now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ann8hoAEGL4
After watching this video I've reevaluted the yesterday's cope from people about "4090 + foveated rendering would be enough for everything".
I knew it was ridiculous even for the current gen headsets, but I've decided to run the numbers for fun anyway.

It is considered common knowledge that apple targets 4k-by-4k per eye for their headset, so we might as well assume that res will become the industry standard, xr3 prototype hmd also suggests so.
Let's assume 4k means 3840 pixels. So each display would be 3840x3840, both eyes 7680x3840. Multiple both width and height by 1.4 and you get 10752x5376, which is the "native" rendering resolution compensated for distortion correction.
10752x5376 equals to 57.8 million pixels. (FYI 8k is just 33.1kk pixels)

Let's be generous and assume that with foveated rendering you will only need to render 40% of the pixels (it's not actually that simple, because graphics pipeline is not just shading pixels and most games are not really 100% efficient, but it's just napkin math so let's be optimistic). 57.8 * 0.4 = 23, which means that you still basically need to shade the equivalent of 23 million pixels. Q2 "native" is 14.8kk pixels btw.

Conclusion: The cope is dead. Basic graphics/bad perf is here to stay, even with 4090, no matter what.
On a positive side, I don't think after this jump we would be rising resolution much, so with 5090 we might have enough to start brute forcing better graphics.
Oh, and there still no good games.

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Daily reminder that just like transgender women will never be real women, modern art will never be real art.

>>399872864
Virtual reality video games?

>>399872864
Anime is modern art.

>>399873064
https://youtu.be/Iow392Lib1Q?t=34

>>399873337
>no 'PS3' comments
/v/ lost their touch.

>>399873413
/v/ has no game

>>399863306

nothing?
VR seems to still suck too much

>>399867912
Well for the price and with a G2 in simracing it definitely sucks. Plus the drivers are ass, I don't know what I expected. I can't play Dragon's Dogma properly, because DX9 support sucks. How do you just randomly owe 4200 yurobucks out of nowhere?

>>399874639
Skyrim with mods.

Is this retard going to end up /vrgg/'s resident schizo? All the cool kid generals have to get one eventually.

>>399874804
no he needs an identifiable persona first

>>399874804
Can't have a designated schizoposter if we're all schizoposters.

Is the right Q2 controller buzzing loud as fuck when vibrating an inevitability you have to cope with, like the ridge that crops up on the silicone interface cover? It's so annoying...

>>399870016
>deleting the whole post
hey janny, eat shit

>>399876481
its cheap. you are going to love the drift issue, it is going to happen, sooner than later

>>399879637
stop posting loli, I'm abstaining from masturbation right now and you are making it more difficult for me

>>399879986
It won't, it will live forever just like myself!
Some googling suggests you should remove the battery from the controller for a bit, I'll see if that works.

virtual reality

>>399892556
2 more day for new ATF content wooo

>>399892654
is there a definitive list of things they're adding yet?

>>399896365
new map, new boss worm, 2 new specials, charger and lmg juggernaut, new mods like 3 burst service pistol, semi auto magazine feed shotgun, new hand device that fires a buzzsaw, was shown off at games com

>>399863306
Demeo has a bar/lounge, and the game itself is pretty chill, miniature dungeon crawling.

Can you really just lose shit in geometry if you die in ITR? The devs really couldn't think of a better way of doing that?
And how the fuck are you supposed to turn the pages in the journal without having to hold it at arms length and move your pointer hand up until you can select the tiny arrows?

>>399900383
use the red laser dots and press trigger?

It is Pavlov day.

Do you guys use virtual stock in Pavlov?

>>399902554
No. It is a crutch.

>>399902554
I used it when I was new but now only when sniping on long range maps to offset some of the shaky tracking.

Vstock is the meta choice and most Pavlov esports fags use it. I recommend it for beginners when they're stuggling to aim straight but they should eventually try playing without it too. It's a choice between consistency or freedom of movement, there's less to get wrong when quickly lining up your sights but you can't do big flicks or blindfire effectively with vstock enabled. Maybe those don't matter in sweaty esports where safe and calculated plays are preferred but in public/casual chaotic games more options can mean more fun.

is there really no way to somehow connect oculus touch controllers directly to a PC? I can't find anyone whose done it online, I'd like to somehow map their gyro controls for use in flat screen FPS games; I really like the way they feel.

>>399905775
Closest I can think of is https://github.com/BOLL7708/OpenVR2Key which maps controllers to keyboard presses; probably not too much work to make it work with vjoy to emulate like an Xbox controller.

>>399905775
can a pc even read gyroscopic movements? isn't it like 3d and shit?

>>399909303
gyro was just rotation I thought, not position.
Controllers like the dualshock 4 and switch pro have gyro built in and you can map them to right stick controls with steam if you connect them to your PC

>>399901962
But the red laser pointer doesn't appear half the time and it's really awkward to use it when you're holding the journal in you're other hand.

It's Tuesday! Time for Pavlov Seach and Destroy!
At 1900 UTC+1
Join the community server: "Gem Server!"

The server has an IP whitelist, whitelist yourself by going to sparkleyserver.top
Headpat people when you join anyway
Gem server maps! https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2662720448

Does anyone use a counterweight for the index or another hmd? are they worth it?

>>399920245
I just diyed a battery to the back of my Quest 2 head strap and I can't really feel the difference.

>>399920245
I haven't tried a counterweight with the index but I did recently get https://www.studioformcreative.com/product-page/index-apache-strap as like a halo strap and I actually quite like it. Takes a good amount of the weight off your face. I can't actually recommend buying their $30 piece of neoprene and Velcro that ships from new zealand, but the concept is definitely sound if you diy.

>>399902554
Physical Stock>Virtual

>>399874749
Sad to hear that. I really wanna love and support amd cards but I just cant take the risk. I know nvidia undermines them with thier drivers/games and whatnot but from njewia gpus I can always except a good reliable performance and good drivers. It just works smoothly... but the way they do business is disgusting.
I can support amd cpus tho. They are awesome.
>How do you just randomly owe 4200 yurobucks out of nowhere?
Its just the tip of the iceberg. Ex left and put me into a bad financial situation after I got serious health issues. Relatives died and funerals cost an arm and leg, I ignored some stuff here and there due to depression, got fired, got into an accident, injured both my wrists and since I fell out of the welfare system while I tried to recover because my 'welfare officer' is an asshole manhating roastie. Also inherited lotta lotta debt and its a burocratic nightmare to deal with it but thats a complete another story.
~4200 is just what I gotta pay right now, ~2k urgent shit in the next 6 months and write lotta requests to make lotta inherited debts with a sum of ~50k into ~15k only.

I just realized VR come a long way in the past 2-3 years and could help with my crippling loneliness in a foreign country +I couldnt care less about flat games. My old rusty 1080ti could handle some basic vr experience but I wanna see the fancy stuff. I might burn trough my savings just to do that. I am pretty frugal and havent bought anything for years but now my body wants to consoooom. Lets see what 2k gets me in a couple weeks/months. My budget might get smaller depending how my finances look but 2k probably the bare minimum for a hmd + new gpu (and maybe a cpu).

Why pavlov die

>>399927591
Sorry to hear that bro hope it gets better for you. Just don't get your expectations too high up like I did. VR is still a massive meme regardless how long of a way it has come. Or at least that's my opinion. Maybe my standards are too high, but it's just constant dealing with issues and dropped frames, drivers, and other stupid shit. At least that's what I get for also falling for the AMD meme because I've always hated intel and nvidia. This time I fell for the shilling but never again.

the goal of all life is death

>>399920245
no, the extra weight hurts my neck

>>399920245
You don't need it for Index. It is well balanced.

>>399755547
Pic related: you.
The bitrate of that video was so low I thought your avatar was a chimp in a suit.

Pavlov update when... it has been over 8 months...

>>399928946
it's always a fanbox nigger

>>399944596
Dave is too busy seething over all the attention Contractors has been getting lately.

>>399945182
What is he coping over now? The weapons in contractors having physics?

>>399944948
n-word used

>>399945353
Mad about people hyping up other games because they have regular updates. Saying those games hold back and release patches for PR purposes instead of doing complete updates (lel) like he does.
We'll see 'a year of work' in the next update but I think it's a safe bet that any new features will have glaring flaws that go unaddressed for months like usual.

>>399947126
They must feel threatened as fuck by Contractors right now, because Pavlov was carried incredibly hard by the modding community, but now Contractor's has some amazing framework for mods and to make custom guns. If Pavlov loses ground in the modding community then that's it for it.

>>399947126
I just hope there's more than the update Quest got in June. If we end up waiting a year for such minor changes and an engine update that I doubt will visibly affect anything, the game is probably going to die.

>>399947645
>>399945182
Anything major that Contractors got in the past year that warrants checking it out? Modding community is fine and all (which Pavlov overly relies on), but I prefer the core game to be fun as well. I just remember hearing about its online community being dead after a couple months post-launch.

>>399947936
Depends on what you like and prefer. To be perfectly frank, I find the gunplay in Pavlov to be more satisfying than in Contractors. The TTK in Contractors is also extremely fucking low, outside the Halo mods then TTK is pretty high. The easiest way to describe the general 'pace' of the game and TTK is CoD: VR. It's very fast, very arcadey, and loadout based. The population seems to be doing fairly well lately too.

The mods are pretty cool though even with it being at an early stage. There's a few Star Wars maps with custom weapons, from guns to grenades, Halo maps which exactly capture the feel of OG Halo from the jump height and TTK, including a good chunk of custom guns. I will say though that feels like some of the guns in the modded loadouts could use with some rebalancing because the SMG > Everything at close to mid range and they take some getting used to. I still had fun though, but I'm not sure if it's because I'm still in the honeymoon phase of it being brand new and novel.

>>399947936
The last update added physics based doors, climbable objects, and collisions to weapons with each other and the environment. I still find the game to be lacking in some way, though. Maybe one day they'll fix whatever makes it feel off.

>>399948949
>and collisions to weapons with each other and the environment.
Did the game prior to the update at least have a collision check to ensure you weren't just poking your gun's tip through the wall/door and shooting from the other end of it like Payday2 allows?

>>399947936
Online is very much alive in Contractors due to Quest crossplay. Even before the mod update there were plenty of lobbies on weeknights including the 16 player groundwar games.
The core game is still shamelessly stuck in the 'CoD but in VR' box and doesn't expand on the formula in any way.

>>399949995
I think so. I didn't really try or see anyone exploiting it if it was possible. Pavlov makes a buzzing sound if you try to fire while your barrel is clipping through anything. The scopes also go black, to prevent using them to see through things which was possible for about 2 years before that change.

>>399950138
>stuck in CoD but in VR
which isn't necessarily bad. Pavlov feels more like CS but in VR. I wish there was a good Battlefield but in VR, at least I have Quake Arena in VR

>>399950138
>due to Quest crossplay
This is usually a giant red flag though.

Fuck did we finally split from vrc? Been wanting this forever.

Anyway why doesn't lighting work half the time in beat saber? Like there just won't be lights even if I have a full color loadout (and even then can I get more than 5 custom slots?)

>>399950947
After playing vtol all I know is I want a battlefield esque game with accurate enough simulators. Vtol planes, dirt rally cars, Pavlov guns etc. Also Until You Fall being an actual roguelite or dark souls ripoff rather than being the most repetitive nonsense in existence but I'm getting off topic

Made it to Kolkhoz Zarya for the 1st time, bruh it's so much harder than the factory.
I dont now why people talk up factory like its end of the world when you've got the open fields of kolkhoz with minimal cover and Armored AK mimics everywhere flanking you.
Factory you just wait at a choke point till all the enemies you attract run to you to get shot

>>399952168
One day soon. Maybe GTA San Andreas VR is going to get some mod support
>>399952308
Kolkhoz Zarya is very open, a 4x scope and P+ and you are golden

>>399951535
It's either that or a dead game. Contractors isn't negatively affected by it as the gameplay is already braindead simple and nobody uses teamwork anyway so there's no loss if you need to mute Quest kids.

>>399928894
Thx for the good vibes I wish the same to you. Im doing ok now, its just some financial bumps.
Honestly the games dont look too attractive on video and lotta people have the same problems with vr as you.
As other anon said it, it needs more and better games. Couldnt you find anything you can cling onto and put 1000hours in it? Would you be more satisfied if you had constant high and steady fps? How are the vr mods? Are they any good or absolute meme territory?
Hopefully you will be able to grab a new 4xxx gpu and then your experience will not be tainted with constant tweaking and troubleshooting.
Sucks that a top tier amd gpu is that unreliable in vr.

>>399950947
>I wish there was a good Battlefield but in VR, at least I have Quake Arena in VR
Soon™

>>399944596
Never

is going from medium to high graphics in ItR worth it?
I'm wondering if a $1500 pc build worth it

Tokyo Game Show in VR
September 15th, 01:00 UTC

https://tgsvr.com/en/
Exhibitors:
>ImaCreate / Cover / CAPCOM / Ministry of the Environment / CharacterBank / Gugenka / KOEI TECMO GAMES / KOJIMA PRODUCTIONS / KONAMI / Survios, Inc. / SQUARE ENIX / SEGA/ATLUS / DYSCHRONIA: Chronos Alternate / VARK / BANDAI NAMCO Entertainment / Pole To Win / Magic: The Gathering / Metaani

>>399980019
>daily work meeting at 02:00 UTC
nyooooooooo

>>399980019
Is it going to be an actual VR client with themed environments/models/etc, or just streamed video garbage I can just watch from Youtube?

>>399992854
The video shows something like scuffed-VRChat-like game.
No idea about content itself though.

I've never had VR before, but a buddy gave me his oculus quest 1 since he doesn't use it anymore. He's only ever used it standalone though, but I want to use it for pc vr since my pc can handle it. Is there a list of stuff I need for that? I'm assuming I at least need some form of cable to connect to the pc and some software?

>>399995958
The charging cable it comes with is good enough for Oculus Link stuff, assuming he gave you it with the headset. Other than that, you'd have to install the Oculus PC software.

>>399995958
you could play wirelessly with airlink or virtual desktop but you need an ethernet connection on your pc then a 5ghz wifi for your quest

>>399992854
They already did this last year, didn't they?

>>399977539
Just try it and see if you prefer the look?

>>399994982

>>399996761
>then a 5ghz wifi for your quest
I've been managing fine with a 2.4ghz N router.

>>399998380
kek

>>399996037
Thanks senpai. Yeah, it should be included I think. He said everything was still in the box along with some kind of extra thing for people who wear glasses. I haven't seen it yet though, he lives at the other side of the country so it's currently in the mail.
>>399996761
An ethernet connection to my pc is no issue, but the wifi might be a problem. We generally have pretty meh signal throughout the house, and my room is probably the worst.

>>400001035
Keep in mind the Quest 1 controllers are also a little fragile. The rings on them have a tendency to just split, which is probably one of the main reasons the Quest Pro is moving away from the ring design (finally).

>We generally have pretty meh signal throughout the house
That won't work for AirLink then. You basically need a pristine connection for it, which involves having line of sight of its antennas. I ended up just running a second router directly from my PC and the only device that uses it is my Quest 2. The good thing is Airlink doesn't require the Quest to have internet access, only just being able to locate the PC on the network.

>>400001360
Aren't they supposed to be releasing a airlink dongle for pcs, whatever happened to that?

>>400001683
Carmack mentioned it last year, and there's been prototypes, but nothing official as far as a consumer product is concerned. The problem with such a stick is the price I expect Meta to charge for it, you could probably just buy a WiFi 6 router for $20 more and be more future proofed for other devices in the process.

>>400001360
>Keep in mind the Quest 1 controllers are also a little fragile.
I'll keep that in mind. Is it just a thing that will happen eventually, or more of a "make sure you don't accidentally drop/throw them" kind of thing? I'm pretty sure I've got some wrist straps around here I can use.
>That won't work for AirLink then.
Ah well, that's a shame. Is the cabled connection/method much worse than airlink, besides the fact that you need to work around having a cable attached to you? If not I think I'd start off with that to see what's what, and look into maybe setting up a second router like you said later.

>>400002341
>Is it just a thing that will happen eventually, or more of a "make sure you don't accidentally drop/throw them" kind of thing?
Both.

>>400002341
>Is the cabled connection/method much worse than airlink, besides the fact that you need to work around having a cable attached to you?
Wired is better for latency/video quality, but after having dealt with being wired with my Rift CV1 for five years, going full wireless with the Quest 2 is the biggest upgrade I've made. That said I have the walking space to make room of wireless. If you plan on gaming mostly sitting down in a small space, wired is fine.

>>400002341
cabled is almost always better than wireless connections. Airlink has a bitrate limitation of 200 Mbps compared to link cable which goes up to 1 Gbps. In comparison VD has a limit of 150 Mbps.
if you're okay with cabled gameplay then go for it.

>>399998003
I just did. Tried fully maxed settings + 150% res. Got my 1660 Ti to run at ~33 fps until I climbed the construction tower which completely crashed my game.
so no I don't think going from 72hz medium settings to 90hz full res settings is worth the price tag of $1500.

>>400003536
same here anon. wireless has so much freedom of movements and it's nice not having to worry about getting your cables tangled on your feet.
not to mention most of my devices are wireless these days (keyboard, mouse, speaker, headset, earphones, etc)

>>399956843
The only thing worth playing in VR is simracing. MAYBE pavlov.