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ITODDLERS BTFO
Thread 432593969 · 06/05/23(Mon)19:34:43 UTC · 781 posts, 214 images. Archived from 4chan /vrg/; deleted posts are not shown.
“Virtual Reality, Real Suffering"
Apple does it again! edition
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ITODDLERS BTFO
AR=/=VR
Say it with me folks
THREE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED AND NINENTY NINE DOLLARS
>>432594216
It's not an AR headset even though they're peddling it as one, just a VR headset with the passthrough almost always running
What's the fov? Normies are going to be disappointed when they find out they're looking through binoculars
Chess https://vrch.at/t95tch6c
>5,287.70 Australian Dollar
It's EyeSight Ricky, and it's a cool thing you know, it helps with conversations
>>432593969 (OP)
it appears my superiority has led to some controversy
Besides the dial that controls passthrough and the advanced hand tracking what does the apple headset really offer?
Reposting in new thread - I'm losing my mind over this Apple Vision Pro. After all these years of hype and rumour and delays and THIS is what they have to show as their big new device on par in importance with the original iPhone. A glorified Quest 2 with no controllers and no games. I am fucking stunned. I thought at MINIMUM it would be a cool luxury device with some funny quirky features that ultimately aren't particularly useful and not a device for me, but it can't even manage that. They showed NOTHING. What the fuck can this thing do that a Quest 2 can't? You can use it as a display for your Macbook? You can do videocalls where you are represented as a 3d avatar? Like holy shit. Normies aren't going to give a shit because they showed NOTHING cool or innovative or interesting. VR already has a stigma and everyone is familiar with the concept of portable VR, so spending half of your presentation showing someone sitting alone in a room looking at fucking 2d photographs isn't going to get anyone excited or invested in your product.
Have they lost the plot? The presentation before the reveal was also pretty garbage, spending like 5 minutes talking about showing photos when people call you and SCREENSAVERS. The only cool thing they showed at all was when they picked a 'live' photo and instantly turned it into a sticker, which magically removed the background from it.
The fucking headset doesn't even have haptics. Or ANY games that aren't flatgames. The Disney portion was just showing concepts that 'could' be done, like all the same shit we've seen before with second screens and companion apps.
The price was largely irrelevant to my reaction but having the balls to announce it at $3.5k, after showing so little, is crazy. Nothing interesting from a VR perspective, nothing interesting from an AR perspective. Nothing innovative, nothing cool. Nothing. At minimum, show us something cool with hand tracking. ANYTHING
>>432594619
they even went the same route of having bespoke form factors and easily detachable lenses
Thrill is salivating over and defending the headset on stream rn. I like the guy but man gets lost in the hype of shit just bc its new.
Apple can't even come up with a single original idea to save themselves from their mediocrity
>>432594905
>Nothing innovative, nothing cool. Nothing.
have you never watched an apple product launch?
The worst thing is they didn't even showcase their use cases properly. A screen? Ok I have screens already though. They should've shown you how to watch a movie together with someone remotely at least
>>432595221
Shillseeker is a fucking retard who wants to get a free vision pro from apple later.
>>432594905
I'm convinced this headset would flop at a third of it's pricepoint. Nothing for power users, too "out-there" for apple users.
>>432594216
""""""""AR""""""""
>>432595221
Thrill is just minbroken due to living in VR chat and the state of VR as a whole, to be expected desu
*clears throat*
XR
>>432595221
What could he possibly be salivating over? It's a worse quest pro for more money.
Even if it does take off, we have apple as corporate overloards instead of facebook. This is shitty for everyone involved no matter what.
>none of the VR hypemen are covering this
It's that bad huh
>>432594896
same thing apple always offers,polish. Most likely far better hand tracking than anything around, most likely most natural, fast, and accurate eye tracking for foveated rendering, especially combined with insane resolution display. At least, let's hope so - because if it costs $3500 and feels as much of a jank as any other headset, VR will suffer really bad reputation for a while, big companies pulling out, whatnot.
>>432595560
Is that... LITERALLY ANY VR NEWS OR SPECULATION? I'm gonna... I'm... gonna... I'M GONNA HYPPPPEEEEEEEEEEE AAAAHHHHHH I'M HYPEEEEENG!
>>432595417
>They should've shown you how to watch a movie together with someone remotely at least
they purposely avoided showing anything like this, or anything where you interact at all, to avoid comparisons to zuck's metaverse due to it's reputation as a laughing stock
>>432595757
So they've shown a lonely woman sitting there alone in the dark. Yeah that's desirable, for a rapist
>>432595757
we didn't see any VR games too, I think they're trying to distance the marketing from the Meta flop
>>432595757
Yeah, they totally avoided all existing terminology and called it a computer.
>>432595865
Yeah real smart, distance yourself from Quest 2/3 and associate with Quest Pro instead with all that business bullshit
>>432595757
Yeah instead you had a guy wearing the Applel vision during a birthday party
>>432595973
its a laptop replacement like >>432595243
>>432595865
and to replace a metaverse we have... floating ipad screens!
>we will revolutionize the skype call
>>432594905
>having the balls to announce it at $3.5k, after showing so little, is crazy. Nothing interesting from a VR perspective, nothing interesting from an AR perspective. Nothing innovative, nothing cool. Nothing.
This pretty much nails it. There was so much fucking nothing, announcing at $3.5k after showing how little you can do with it is laughable.
>>432595221
Shillseeker with another over-positive over-shilled opinion on a new product? No way.
inb4 apple cancels the vision pro
Damn Valve should've just released that Vader headset huh, apparently 5k wouldn't have been too much to ask
>>432597028
>vader headset
?
I just wanted to say that Yum and Lolcrab are the cutest girls on /vrg/.
I just want to see boomers wearing the apple headset in public, that's all the enjoyment I'll get out of the new headset.
But that aside!
Ladies(male) and gentlewomen.
We're also back again! Idols, Wishing and Stars? What's missing?
The dancing of course. /ourDJ/ is once again dropping some beats for you to idol step to.
With every rendition, not only does the DJ improve but also the club. I'm very proud of the visuals now.
Once again, there will be a passcode to this club. The passcode this time is 6182
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The theme around this time is the friends we've made along the way, dress in your Yukata,
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apple saying shit like "like with the mouse and touch input, apple is the first to come up with gesture input!"
at this point they've drank their own coolaid.
>>432595670
Smooth user experience is the best we can hope for then?
This being an apple device is already a massive turn off, I don't want my hardware to be locked on a shitty restrictive ecosystem, looking at the sepct make me wish they would release a lobotomized version that I can use on my PC instead.
>>432597130
Valve had an aspirational prototype headset where they asked the engineers to come up with the best hardware possible, costs and complexity be damned. It was called Vader and they said if it could even somehow be mass produced, it'd still run up $5K. I think it was the test mule for their HDR and fingertracking stuff.
>>432597028
It's a long game tactic. Setting the Index between $1100 to $1200 shows the cap for most willing to pay for a hobbyist option. In so doing some might be hesitant based on price, but as we've seen with Quest Pro (and it's price drop because of it) any other set that's above $1100 makes people worry question if it's really worth it.
>>432598090
The amount of idiots I know that bought a strix 4090 for VR chat and League makes me question that
>>432597953
fuck I'd buy anything from valve, price doesn't matter
>>432598278
Nvidia gets the same cult treatment that Apple does
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Xhc_k-ONbzA
It does look cool though
I cant belive apple invented fortnite
>>432594389
Mahjong https://vrch.at/akj28pah
>>432598415
Well that's probably not a commercially viable assumption given the failure of Artifact.
>>432600717
literally no one cared about Artifact
>>432600835
Exactly, which means Valve can't just slap their name on anything and expect it to sell.
>>432600913
if they did pricey bespoke HMDs enthusiasts would buy em
>>432599381
we like fortnite
we like fortnite
>>432592456 (Cross-thread)
I unironically hate going back to closed headsets after using the Quest Pro. Don't even use the side panels.
I think this headset, like most Apple products, may be too intelligent for your average consoomer
>>432602094
>>432602139
Fuck off, I'm serious. This is a v0.1 of something that will take over the world. It's not supposed to be "good" at this stage.
>>432602254
>This is a v0.1 of something that will take over the world
2013 was 10 years ago bucko
Apple is going to speed run the VR evolution.
Right now we are in the DK2 era with Xbox controllers.
In the next gen they are going to invent proper VR controllers.
>>432602515
Nah, they're making the sunglasses form factor AR headset that replaces smartphones within a decade.
>>432602515
My only hope from this is that this encourages more AR development so we get actually decent headsets for a normal price sooner
>>432594425
>Australian minimum wage: $23.23 per hour
>United States minimum wage: $7.25 per hour
>>432598278
At least VRChat can be demanding if you unlock shaders in a public instance full of unoptimized avatars, on a high resolution headset
>>432603927
>can be
>>432602515
>In the next gen they are going to invent proper VR controllers.
lmao
apple only knows how to take away, not add
>>432602515
>he hasn't seen the last apple attempt at a controller
Daily reminder that zucc pissed his pants and sabotaged quest pro from THIS.
i can accept people walking around with headsets on their head but if you do that applel eye projection shit at me you're getting punched right in the 3500$
>>432599381
>pay 3500$ to play fortnite
geels about as retarded as i do playing AoE2 on my 1500$ gaming setup
>>432605341
There is nothing retarded about playing AoE II on anything at anytime, anywhere because it's quite literally the best game ever made.
Damn lmao I didn't notice there was a new thread and wasted my post in the old one. What are all these apple memes lmaoooooooooooooooo
>>432606171
It's not even the best classic RTS, let alone the best game ever made.
>>432606171
Wake me when it lets me zoom right the way out like supreme commander.
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hopefully my internet doesn't cut out this week
starting at 19:00 UTC as usual!
>>432594363
95 - 115 across the accommodated IPD range, like a Quest 2, but the optics are considerably better so it really doesn't feel as claustrophobic, but it's still not impressive, it's comparable to everything else "current generation".
>>432594896
>>432595560
Nobody who has had their hands on it has the full gag out of their mouths yet.
>>432598590 (Cross-thread)
>It's distinctly cleaner and clearer than the Pimax Crystal.
>Heavier than a Quest 2
>Runs HOT.
It's useless for gaming, but the displays and optics are worth drooling over.
Can't wait to get comparable displays and optics in a VR headset that isn't useless for gaming.
>>432609192
they're literally running the demos for it right now, so we'll probably see more articles tomorrow/this evening
lol impact grenades do no damage
>>432609782
Can already confirm it's way too fucking heavy for the pitiful headstrap, they will release an "improved" headstrap later, they have to because it's so fucking bad.
It's not as heavy as a Quest Pro, but it's much heavier than a Quest 2.
FOV is compromised as fuck.
It's too god damned hot and they're going to fix it with worse performance.
Shame on any reviewer that doesn't mention the weight or the heat.
Though many will never experience the heat because they'll just be playing around with Facetime and the new note-taking bullshit, remarking at the quality of the music videos they watch.
If they let anyone try Village or Death Stranding on the Vision Pro please speak up, they're handholding their way through shitty previews and telling you which direction to look, it's about as hands-on as a strip show.
>>432610835
Not to mention the "optional" top strap that will probably be required to comfortably support that weight (additional charges apply)
>>432609782
>eye tracking
literally who the fuck cares
vr keeps flopping around with shitty useless gimmicks nobody of worth gives a fuck about instead of focusing on actual content
>>432611203
>literally who the fuck cares
Me!
You would have cared too, if you weren't retarded.
>>432611203
foveated rendering
>>432611203
It's so frustrating because all we've ever needed since 2018 was just a few high quality, well-funded AAA games, but instead these Fortune 500 companies drop billions on shit like Facetime or pic related. I cannot comprehend what is going through their heads, it's like there's something about VR development that makes people retarded.
>>432611203
Eye tracking has actual utility, it's facial tracking that's the gimmick for social games.
Eye tracking has net returns on performance because it allows for proper foveated rendering, which definitely matters as we try to get higher and higher resolutions out of headsets.
Gonna be pretty necessary as we approach retina resolution and higher FOVs, the goal being to exceed 12,600x9,600 at a "full" 210x160 FOV.
>>432611768
Palmer Lucky and Brendan Iribe.
The two faggots who ruined the whole vr industry just by themselves.
>>432611840
>facial tracking that's the gimmick for social games.
t. has no idea what immersion is
>>432611768
I don't think modern game development practices are compatible with AAA VR games at all.
>>432611969
Because my facial expressions will somehow enhance my experience playing Fruit Ninja VR and Job Simulator?
>>432611203
Things that actually matter:
>performance
>battery life (if wireless)
>compatibility with existing software
>screen/lens clarity
>tracking
>comfort
Things that are nice innovations:
>hand tracking so you don't need controllers
>foveated rendering
>wireless without performance degradation and extremely low latency
Things no one gives a fuck about:
>mouth tracking
>smellovision
>showing your eyes to people outside the headset
>viewing tiktok videos
>eye tracking where that doesn't play into foveated rendering
>facebook integration
>>432612195
>a horror game tracking when you get relaxed to make you shit your pants
>>432612195
once we're at the point where everyone has eye/face tracking any game where you interact with other players will have an entirely extra layer of immersiveness just by virtue of everyone not being stagnant fisheyed statued
>>432612202
>eye tracking where that doesn't play into foveated rendering
Disregarding eye tracking as input show clearly that you are retarded and don't really understand vr.
>>432611175
don't get too excited
you'd play them in flat mode
>>432612202
They want the normalfag audience.
>>432612202
Missed the best feature we all need
>Headset that kills you when you die in VR
>>432612297
>Thing that's been done before without facial tracking
Never played Nevermind?
>>432612330
>Gimmick for Social Games
>>432612435
Oh I know, I just want to know how hot it gets.
It gets hot as FUCK doing anything of note, and I have to assume "gaming" would hit the limit.
>>432611768
These huge companies don't create, they just buy up anything interesting, slap their name on it and suck the life out of it.
I like the concept of it and would try it. Don't like the price.
>>432612330
That's fair. I don't give a shit about it right now, but I "expect it" of ALL headsets eventually.
>>432612873
Go try it, gawk at the visual quality, it's phenomenal.
Truly it's everything I ever wanted from the Nreal/Xreal Air, in a $3500 heavyweight with no battery life.
Also, that battery pack is TINY, I don't know the rating but getting "useful" battery life with a larger pack should be doable.
Power draw is a whole hell of a lot more than a Quest 2, easily over 30W, might be over 40W, not like they'll tell us.
I can see the appeal of consooming content in mixed reality. But the simple step of keeping the headset charged (or permanently tethered, I read that you can keep it plugged into a power out) combined with potential discomfort and heating issues, cancels out any otherwise appealing intuitive user experience
I just want Valve's headset
btw, the dude at the conference said "STARTS AT $3499", which means 3.5k dollars only gets you the most basic model which probably has shit storage and everything
>iToddlers
>>432612731
The fact that the thread has on-topic news to discuss is a huge improvement and you know it
psycho,30??
>>432613648
you know it!
>>432613574
No way in hell the basic version does not have at least 256gb, I expect them to up sell to $4500 for a 2tb version tho
>>432613860
>>432613574
Consider: cloud storage.
>My new 11" iPad pro m2 gets hot after I use safari for a while, for not very demanding things like YouTube.
>My tablet, even through winter, heats up in a matter of 10 minutes while I draw on procreate. I just want to draw, and yet I'm forced into stopping and letting it cool down after 10 minutes.
>I just got an 11 inch iPad Pro M2 and I notice some heat after a few minutes of playing music with the speakers all the way up, is this normal?
>M2 ipad get hot when I'm simply just browsing or listening to podcasts
>taking notes on GoodNotes using my 12.9 pro, my iPad tends to overheat even when no other apps are open after around 20 minutes.
>with Procreate, gets very hot and eats through battery
>iPad Pro after watching 5-10mins of YouTube videos (not 4k and with no other apps open) the right side of my screen gets really hot.
The M2 powered iPad and Macbook Air are thermal-throttling spaceheaters through-and-through, now strap it to your face and have a nice day.
>The Vision Pro weighs almost exactly the same as the current 12.9" iPad Pro
It runs like an oven and throttles non-stop.
>>432614120
I've considered it, and you're fucking retarded
how does it run anything then? You think you can stream AR shit?
better than all the ignorant /g/ threads up right now, at least people actually understand headsets here
>>432612664
And they have literal hundreds of millions to just plop on the desk of some AAA dev and ask them for an AAA game.
>>432613860
Meant 1tb
>>432614120
For your 3D recordings sure, but for applications/games?
>>432614571
But it has an outside battery, that must cool it down considerably
>>432615219
heat mainly comes from the CPU, not the battery
I feel left out. What's going on?
You know, I wouldn't be so mad about $3500 if you weren't stuck with meme-tier Apple apps and productivityshit for that price point. 4K per eye displays are some premium shit, and SteamVR compatibility would make sure enthusiasts would get some good use out of them.
>>432616203
Apple announced their new Vision Pro HMD. It's $3500, and while its hardware is some interesting shit, the software offerings are lackluster compared to other headsets on the market at that price point.
Just woke up QRD??? How bad is it? Is it useless? Time stamp when they start talking about it?
>>432616203
>>432616481
apple announced a VR headset for next year (MR focused, marketed as AR to distance themselves from meta) and it's the same shit as all their other products, has no controllers, no gaems, won't be steamvr compatible, and 3500 dollars
>>432610835
Are you just being figurativve or did you actually try it? How's the resolution and passthrough at least? Surely they couldn't have screwed that up.
>>432616814
Previous thread had someone say that the display quality is fucking stunning, and that if you currently enjoy VR you shouldn't look through one because you'll hate how useless it is to do anything other function as a display replacement. Gets super fucking hot and heavy as well, and not in the sexy way.
z-zuckbros... is it... over?
The question is, what is the point announcing it 6 months before the release?
>>432618145
>vs vrchat avatar
>>432616460
>>432616597
Very suspicious. Sounds like some steins gate organization plan.
>>432618179
gives devs who weren't in on the NDA time to develop something for it.
>>432618145
>vs vrchat avatar
>>432616814
The display is fucking AMAZING and the pass-through is solid. Not "flawless" but it's god damned good.
Everything else is meh, it's too heavy and too hot and not comfortable enough. (Though it'll be more comfortable with the proper facial interface)
>>432619731
if you're an "insider", have you had a chance to try the bigscreen beyond as well? are they comparable?
>>432615219
It does not.
Batteries don't contribute much to heat except when charging or in high-drain applications.
It's not even a blip compared to the heat of the M2 + R1 combo pack of TDP they've got going in this 40+W headset.
>>432620083
YABBA
MY ICING
>>432619964
I am not, I'm a shit-tier insider who hasn't even gotten to see a Quest 3 in person yet, and my access to the Appel Vizion was more luck than anything else.
All the real reviewers had special facial interfaces made for them ahead of time.
I just got to shove my face into one for a couple of minutes and have nothing to report but heft, sweat, and incredible clarity.
I have had the pleasure of trying a Pimax Crystal, and the Apple headset is considerably better in terms of image quality and clarity, it's the best VR headset I've ever seen as far as display and optics go.
The FOV wasn't impressive but take that with a grain of salt, it might be heaps better with the right facial interface.
The man knows how to sell me a product that's for sure.
>>432620457
Supposedly the custom made facial interface AND prescription lenses are totally standard and included even in the base $3500 price.
I'd say "impressive" but at $3500 it really should suck my dick for me.
This is getting ridiculous
Also i accidently killed one of the eyetracking cams, will have to roll with single eye tracking for the time being.
>>432621224
damn bitch, you live like this?
>>432621224
Time for a cyclops avatar
>>432621339
Fuck me, that's not even funny it's such a good idea.
>>432621224
i dont know exactly how it works
but cant you just use the one working eye as input for both?
not like you ever move your eyes individually
>>432621727
or a pirate
that's more fun
>>432621813
Yeah, it works like that by default, just outputting one input for both eyes.
I won't be able to wink though....
As for the lip tracker i've meet with 2 reactions: People don't notice it initially or immedietly try to stuff things in my mouth.
Thanks for coming to my ted talk, im mad at myself for fucking up a camera that i will need to wait 2 weeks to arrive and im still getting shafted by customs on ir leds
>>432622132
shoving things in a polish mouth is a westerner's weyt dream
>>432619368
The champ won't be outsold.
is there any way to put back an animator animation into blender?
I was expecting shit like this, with 3d interfaces and virtual objects interacting with the real world. Stuff that is gimmicky but at least kinda cool and appealing. If you really want to stick with the 'view your photos' shit, then what if you could apply the photo as a texture to your cushions or something? Or tether something to your hand?
>>432619731
>>432616814
Interesting.
Somehow missed the post, thanks.
>>432619731
Can you read text through the passthrough?
Not even mad. I had the high ground, heard him shoot twice.
I am mad though that the belt ate my entire bag's worth of loot including graphics card the raid before though.
Wish Upon A Star!
Live in the present, look forward to the future
WHEN - June 10th, 11:30pm EST, 8:30PM PST
WHAT - A formal Japanese themed festival event. Not based on any holiday in particular. Features custom festival stalls, games, shrine maidens (male), and more!
WHO - Everyone's invited! Yes anon, even (you).
"But K, I don't have a Japanese dress model, and I don't want to reuse the one I made last year, or the year before that! Wait, you just reused last years copypasta too!"
Shut up Anon, don't tell them and they won't notice. Including a download link for the yukata we used last year, more props to include with the yukata will come in a few days, and I'll type an updated post letting you know they're included.
"But K, how can I contribute?"
Luckily for you anon, there's a perfect way to contribute. We need festival stalls again! This drop box link is to the photoshop template, as well as a raw FBX so you can test it out yourself. Get it to me however you can, via responding here, or DM, I don't care just make it happen anons. I believe in you.
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Yukata -
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Can't wait to see you guys there this year. Looking forward to all the submissions.
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>>432593969 (OP)
if I wanted to watch videos and shit, I would just use these with my phone.
Literally no point to buy an overprice bulk that cant even do games or PCVR.
>>432626568
Oh yes, comfortably.
Now that the dust has settled, what went wrong?
>>432632081
>what went wrong?
Palmer Lucky and Brender Iribe selling the company to lizards in 2014.
The original sin.
>>432632081
Nothing at all.
Headset is exactly what was expected, an overpriced productivity-oriented headset with fundamental flaws that's totally useless for gaming.
It's heavy as fuck, hot as fuck, and doesn't have enough battery life to watch an average feature film.
The screens are great, optics are great, the rest is meh, and none of it matters for /vrg/ because the one thing it absolutely cannot do is play VR games.
It's an iPad Pro strapped to your face with the TDP cranked up even higher than the overheatomatic Macbook Air so it will never stop thermal throttling.
They did exactly what was expected of them.
Threadly Dirt Rally 2.0 reminder post. We're running NR4/R4 in New England until next Monday. Club link is in the OP if you need it.
Time for monday pypy! Come and dance.
the link:
https://vrch.at/39q2nyd4
or join on yuru
>>432633648
my boney wife...
>>432633648
You are unironically starting to look worse than that clone from the other day.
Get a grip.
>>432633782
I use exercise clothes at pypy but nowhere else.
The skeleton leotard is a little bit weird but I sawmit and liked it.
>>432633759
hello hello
thank god i didn't pay 40 dollars for this
>>432635609
>I use exercise clothes at pypy but nowhere else.
And what fitness benefit does that large leather choker have?
>>432636226
It's an accessory. I wanted a punkier look with the new twintails.
Since there's a lot of vrchat people here, is ProBuilder still being used or has something else taken its place? It seems they removed the 2019 compatible version from the asset store.
I know there is blender but exporting and replacing stuff for every test is a pain.
>>432638270
It's an official part of unity now, you install it from the package manager. I still use it, It's gotten better in the newer unity versions
>>432638452
Ok, thanks. I did see it became part of Unity when looking it up, but I thought that was only for the latest version.
>>432633648
They're all so cute bros...
>>432639126
I want to breed L
we need to choose a new non-airing show to pick up for NA Anime! pleas help, feel free to add suggestions
https://poal.me/7zzrc
Monday's Workout is starting!
Let's kick the week off on a healthy note and get your body humming. Join onflagsteeler, or use the link below
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>>432639126
>>432636516
Who did mommy get collared by...
>>432639126
F is so hot
>>432643272
IT'S UP!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEUFvgDjWb4
>>432644413
>le epic british guy reviews
It's too late, I've already drawn myself as the fit pypy going chad, your argument is invalid.
>>432644828
this but unironically
>>432645072
Maximum power.
I was feeling very lazy and didn't want to manually organize booth outfits with blender. This is the power of Modular Avatars™ https://modular-avatar.nadena.dev
>>432645805
>every avatar on one avatar
maybe a third nuke will fix it?
thanks for coming to pypy! see you again tomorrow [and thursday] at 10est
>>432643672
There's unironically no one that could do that.
>>432646098
im going to choler u*injects you with cholera*
did apple stock crash yet?
maybe gaben will buy it for the display and handtracking tech
>>432647123
everyone will put a big ass sillicon cover over it with holes for the cameras
As expected, Apple has made sure everyone to get their first hands-on is inexperienced in the industry.
None of the people who have had "first looks" have any fucking experience with VR/AR/XR shit.
They're making sure all the first-looks are totally blown away by shit they know nothing about.
>>432647286
apple just invented vr AND ar
people are rightfully blown away
next theyll release an app where people chat in virtual enviroments, you will see this on the front page of every newspaper and the news will talk about it for months
How can I see through the headset if it's mixed reality and not an actual transparent AR headset???
>>432647821
Cameras.
Instead of an anime movie, showing the first four episodes of 08th MS Team tonight at 10PM EDT (~21.5 hours from this post). I'll post details to join off of when the instance is up.
>>432647872
So it's producing extra heat just to have a second screen that displays your eyes lol what a meme
>>432648809
Extra heat, weight, space, and processing power.
>>432647821
honestly im surprised they didnt make it an actual AR visor with a combiner between the outside image and the virtual stuff. passthrough AR seems like a good idea if the headset is mainly a VR one
>>432648809
its gay af to appeal nor normies
i actually like walking around with a headset on with passthough when no one can see my eyes i feel all cyberpunk and cool its like im in snow crash
>>432622132
Can I shove things in your mouth tracked mouth in the near future?
>>432623573
Yes. Use the FBX exporter in unity. Windows>Package manager or soem shit. It helps track all the modules you have there is FBX exporter there that you can install.
Mess with the settings there is a way to export the fbx from the scene with baking whatever animation is linked in that animator.
>>432599381
>now you can play flat games
People really are brain dead. You have atechnology that can build a 6DOF world around you and they use it for fortnite and to watch tiktok videos.
>>432651131
That's the idea, yeah.
>>432651131
The entire industry will baby-duck flatscreens for the next half-decade minimum
>>432626808
Be VERY careful with the conveyor nowadays. It will eat items, you have to sell one item at a time: It's quickest if you do it in batches of the same item. EG a stack of those cardboard smoke grenades, you can put them in one at a time and see the number go up.
https://vrwiki.nexisonline.net/wiki/Ghosts_of_tabor#Known_Jank
I try to update this
>prepare to hop in VR
>plug my trackers in to check out how charged they are, I haven't used them in a bit
>no light
>windows notification pops up
Power Surge in USB Port
Device is demanding more power than can be supplied
>wtf
>must be the cable
>switch cables
>try a usb port not on a hub
>no light
>huh, weird
>remove the cord
>the end is hot as balls
>the input is really fucking hot, too
>can power on just fine
what the FUCK did I do the last time I was in VR with my trackers and has this happened to anyone before?
>>432651567
Sounds like a short circuit
>>432651323
I think it was throwing the cap of a used drink bottle into it that nuked it. I rarely if ever have trouble with the belt.
>>432651316
I think it's more that people don't want to do anything but watch TV, flick through their phone, and play fortnite. Like if they wanted a 3d experience they'd go outside. It's just this generation's TV addicts.
>>432651825
FUCK
checking the site, HTC has an extended list of replacement parts for controllers and headsets, but not their trackers? damn it
>>432651567
>>432655109
>he fell for the chinkshit meme
>>432655610
>niggerspacing
>faggotlining
>wojackposter
Didn't read. Kill yourself.
>>432655610
>doesnt allow people to discuss topics that are actually interesting and thought provoking and productive.
Define interesting and thought provoking
>>432656383
Racist and impotent.
>>432636226
>And what fitness benefit does that large leather choker have?
it's for when i fitness dick down her throat lmao
>>432656797
Man fuck all that, most of us know things are fucked and likely irreparably fucked. no need to dwell on that and discuss it to death.
>>432657260
I prefer to put on my VR headset and play VR games in my cyberpunk dystopia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFvXuyITwBI
>uploaded 11 mins ago
Whatchya think I kinda trust this guy a bit for reviews since they're normie tier look for a VR device aimed at them instead of shillseeker
>>432657654
scrolling through the comments is a fever dream
why are normalfags like this?
>>432636112
I really liked deez nuts
>>432657260
im not saying to dwell on it. im not even arguing against vrchat censorship of all places, thats fucking retarded. im just realizing another reason why its particularly degenerate. and it wont stop being degenerate until people at least have the perception that they wont be banned for being critical of it. no one will ever want to replace real life socialization with kosher virtual reality spaces unless they want to push degeneracy beyond what they feel comfortable with in real life, because its just yet another safe space for that shit with the added bonus it being more immersive and your real identity is being hidden
which is why most vrc players are halfway in the waifu to troon pipeline
4chan moderators are the most subhuman faggots who ever existed
>>432659469
FULLY
MODELED
ALMONDS
>>432659469
to bad the sequel is Quest only so it looks like shit
>>432656797
Or we could talk about actually interesting thought provoking things that are related to virtual reality like how VR is a stop-gap to brain computer interfaces and how us VR enthusiasts are really transhumanist early-adopters
>>432660138
>VR is a stop-gap to brain computer interfaces
Except talking about this is fucking autistic when obviously if anything we are headed backwards technology in the near future. Science and technology in the west has almost totally stagnated, it's all done for profit and even that barely accomplishes anything because of the sheer brain drain from affirmative action and the demoralization of the smartest people.
My grandfather was an astrophysicist who helped build the Saturn V, I'm a fucking nobody, like everyone else all i care about is bitches, money, myself and my hobbies. know why? because fuck this anti white nigger tranny worshipping country
And fuck jannies
>>432660864
dude take your schizo shit elsewhere
seek mental help not joking
>>432660959
>You're mentally ill if you see things thr way an average person from 80 years ago would see them if they had a time machine to the modern world
You are obviously either a faggot, kike, shitskin or just a complete disgrace to your ancestors
>>432659807
I will now buy your game.
>>432660864
Please stop this reddit shit.
>>432662117
>shit that can even get you banned from modern 4chan is "redditshit"
Tranny
does anyone wanna hangout?
>>432662325
go to sleep
>>432662325
in gorilla tag?
>>432662364
its 10 am, i already slept
>>432662447
no, in vrchat
>>432662476
>its 10 am, i already slept
go back to sleep
>>432662476
>hangout in vrchat
and do what?
drink heavily, look at a mirror and contemplate suicide?
no thanks
>>432662706
talk about tfwnogf
>>432662325
>>432662476
whomst
>>432662325
I would hangout in walkabout minigolf
Talk shit, shoot balls with the bros
The usual
>>432662724
i know misery loves company, but i'm married
>>432662325
im up for it,
post instance
>>432662818
i already left, kek
too late boyo
i dont like hanging out with /vg/ fags anyways
r9k chads where we at!
>>432662862
bro you give up after 8 minutes?
>>432663146
damn i really wanted to get on as well...
>>432660090
I hate the quest so much it's unreal.
>>432658438
I just want an affordable modern vr headset that doesnt want to rape me for data collection. Is that too much to ask?
>>432671071
Yes it is too much to ask and it will always be. Raping you for data collection is worth money so companies releasing those headsets can subsidize the hardware. This will always be the case.
>>432671071
It'll never be good enough for people like you.
"Wat da fak? I need a facebook account?,
Wat da fak? I need to create a company account?,
Wat da fak? I need to use cookies and javascript??!"
>mfw he cheated on me
Decided to give up to temptation and use eyetrack. Surprised how fast it is, if I'll get to improve general accuracy, it might be a viable way to start fiddling with foveated rendering, say in bullshit ass project wingman that runs like trash even on high-end gpus. I even remember using static form of foveated rendering for PW, and it had center position of circle in shader mod config, so if it can be made dynamic, it's more than possibleI'm still a bit scared about IR levels. but hey, if no one reported eye loss yet, it's all good, isn't it
>>432674370
Nice. I tried eye tracking a bit on my end but not on VRchat yet. Apparently the remote viewer experience of eye tracking sucks and is not instant.
VRchat needs to change how it works and bundle it with how limbs move cause right now it's dog shit and choppy.
>>432674370
Now ill know if you're looking at my tits
Did you end up deciding to get a Quest pro or did you build the tracking?
>>432677134
Latter. EyeTrackVR, it's a DIY thing:
https://github.com/RedHawk989/EyeTrackVR
>>432674370
Crimson 1 wrote this post
>>432679368
It's the only place they can be white
>>432677198
Seems way too much of a hackjob.
I mean check the github of the creator. His bio says he's a fucking high schooler wtf.
Furries are fucking retarded.
>>432682163
I'm rather egalitarian, so the way I see it, there's a chance furry teenager will nail something just as well as professional boomer dev. But yeah, I'm also rather cautious, so you won't see me using this eyetrack in VRC too much. Will screw around a bit, then drop it, I'm sure not using it for 8h through VRC nights. I did some extremely basic and possibly flawed experimentation, it seems like amount of IR light in headset is as high as sitting outside in shade during sunny day. But, during sunny day your eye pupil is tiny, unlike when you're sitting in a dark room in VR. Been thinking about strobing IR light, hopefully synced with camera if possible, that would minimize overall amount of light ever so slightly - didn't got to do anything in this direction yet though[/spoiler]
>>432674528
>the remote viewer experience of eye tracking sucks and is not instant
>VRchat needs to change how it works
They did this like two updates ago. Eyetracking is now ik-synced like your limbs. People using osc already found ways to force interpolation remotely though like a year ago.
>>432682892
Oh fuck yes finally! This is the news I wanted to hear I must have missed this. Yes I will now be an eye tracking chad SOON(tm)
webm related is my bland Horizons world avatar testing of eye tracking and hopefully soon in OSC vrc as well. Thanks for informing me this anon.
>>432666062
>$999 monitor stand
Is this their most ridiculously overpriced product yet? I have a vague recollection of something even worse, years ago.
>>432614913
i saw some people unironically comparing them to nreal airs
i own them and i regret buying them.
also lets be honest if it wasnt overpriced af and software limited everyone ITT would want the vision pro
>>432621224
what the fuck is this shit why do you need a usb hub and loose wires and all that shit?
>>432633167
makes no sense
how did it take them so long to find out he bought a 3500$ headset if he was shooting 3d video of them for a long ass time
also i think the 3d video thing will be big. i was talking a few days ago on /vg/ on how porn should start adding depth channels to the video
>>432621224
Put an eye patch on your avatar.
>>432687836
>hat the fuck is this shit why do you need a usb hub
nta but it's so they can continue to use the quest 2 wirelessly even with the facetracker and eyetracking. As for loose wires, I've seen worse eyetrackvr setups
>>432689801
Its so that i can use both vive facial tracker and power ETVR while also having powerbang plugged on.
>>432690534
>But how does that work
Since quest 2 works on android you can easily host an USB server on it using VirtualHere there's an old apk that doesnt require to pay for single device connection.
You also need to give the app permissions to camera using ADB.
Its still quite janky and i need to figure it out so i dont get random disconnects and dont have to restart OSC server several times for it to click.
what does this even do
>>432691385
bans you if you click it lol
>>432691385
Automatically bans you. Unironically.
>>432689801
ESP32s?
are those the cam boards? ribbon for cameras?
isnt that headset wired? why put a battery and esp32s for the eye tracking? you can probably put a raspberry or other SBC with 2 camera connectors and connect+power it via a cable that goes along your regular cable for the headset
>>432691450
>>432691481
Does not ban you
>>432691385
Doesn't matter at all unless your avatar is set to public
>>432691589
>Does not ban you
Nice try, Tupper.
>>432691757
All of my old models are marked with nudity, and none of them ever got me banned or warned or anything, even when I briefly made them public a few times.
>>432691947
then why bother marking them with nudity if it doesn't do anything?
>>432692054
I stopped doing it because I can't be bothered
>>432691385
Nothing but don't tick them since all NSFW content is against their ToS
>>432691385
Nothing, the other guys are retarded. It's legacy stuff from 6 years ago they've been too lazy to remove
>>432691513
no clue, i just pulled that from the eyetracking discord. My headset came with all that built in
>>432690534
soul image
>>432593969 (OP)
>the comments on review videos
>revolutionary
>ground-breaking
The absolute fucking state
why did vr doom fuck with the guns
i feel like the game could be adapted to vr better
>>432690534
VR enthusiasts look at this and see no issues.
>>432693460
npcs gonna npc
>>432693493
The mod does it better than the actual release I think
>>432693602
they made an actual release?
i realized they made standalone doom 4 mins ago
i did play standalone quake a couple of months ago tho
>>432689670
do normies actually watch garbage like this
>>432691450
>>432691481
this was a lie made up by snakior to try to get you guys to band against vrc staff and it's hilarious that it's still spread as truth
>>432693460
The amount of "OH MY GOD IT'S LITERALLY BLACK MIRROR IN REAL LIFE" comments is eyerolling.
>>432693937
Why is it still spread as truth anyways? Just try it out for yourself.
t. all my uploads have the 4 boxes ticked.
>>432694148
>Why is it still spread
because the majority of people here lack common sense and will raise pitchforks over very easily self-verifiable information
Looks like Amazon is already bot spamming every Apple headset video
>>432695112
Amazon have a VR headset in the works?
>>432695965
Nope, no idea what it is. Some crypto scam shit probably, googling it doesnt even come up with anything.
Now that the dust has settled and the string of major headset announcements and updates are out of the way, we can all agree on who won right?
>>432697194
for me 100%, idc about eye or face tracking, so the Beyond won for me.
Will the Duck Goggles have SteamVR support?
>>432697194
For me it is still the Valve Index.
>>432697194
Valve won. Index 2 when? Beyond has bad FOV, and doesn't include controllers or base stations with that big price.
>>432696053
Yeah googling around a bit it just looks like a crypto scam. It just makes me wonder why spam it under the Apple Vision video pretending that it is just another headset.
I want to fuck tupper
>>432698015
>1k is a lot to him
you have to be over the age of 18 to post here
>>432697194
>Now that the dust has settled and the string of major headset announcements and updates are out of the way
Wait... by God, is that a Valve announcement coming in 2 weeks? IS THAT GABEN WITH A STEEL CHAIR!?
Reminder: valve hasn't even made a prototype of the deckard yet that isn't more than an index and a steamdeck motherboard glued together
>>432698015
>Beyond has bad FOV
Has the same stereo overlap as Index. 102 degrees FoV is not even close to bad.
It's Tuesday! Time for Pavlov Seach and Destroy!
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>>432697438
Frog goggles look lighter and more comfortable
im not getting one but im ngl it's the coolest looking headset by far
i wish they made a version with tracking. it wouldnt be as small but there's a reason why people arent rushing to buy third party tracking setups
>>432700031
lightest headset vs heaviest headset right here
>>432698767
It's not. The index is just that much with everything included. Enjoy your apple VR, pretend richfag.
>>432698962
>stereo overlap
Elaborate. If it's good I might change my mind and buy it. Maybe. It has only 90hz though so maybe not. I want 120.
>>432700297
the first one is so lumpy and gross!
you can't see your eyes on the outside and you need a $1000 computer to use it so it's basically worthless
>>432700297
heavier than pimax?
seriously tho, all the polymers we have in 2023 and they go with aluminum+glass? for a device whose weight sits on your fucking face
>>432700658
I wouldn't be friends with any of these subhumans what the fuck. Brian especially can fuck off.
>>432700658
>tfw beyond plus a pc to run it is cheaper than Apple Vision Pro
lol
lmao
>>432700759
if it doesn't look like an iphone susan won't buy it
>>432700451
the Beyond makes sense for people who have owned an Index for 4 years already
t. has owned an Index for 4 years already
>>432701917
Sure, but I'm a G2bab. I don't think it's worth it for me. Someone in here also said that with the Index 2 Valve might be wanting to move away from base station tracking technology, so if I get some now I'll probably be fucking myself over.
>>432702048
if valve moves away from base stations I won't use it anymore
completely swapping ecosystems seems like a terrible idea
>>432701747
Cons: No eyetracking, worse displays, not wireless.
Pros: Better comfort, controllers, more processing power.
Trade-offs, trade-offs.
>>432703072
3.5x the cost
>>432703072
also it ACTUALLY does VR
if you need wireless just wait for Nofio
eyetracking makes the most sense on wide FOV hmds like pimax sadly
>>432703072
eye tracking is retarded, just get a stronger gpu
any space spend on dumb shit looking at your eyes is a space not spent on screen/lens
israeli chads are gonna give us full FOV vr
>>432703164
It's not.
$1000 headsets, $300 basestation+knuckles, $1500 4090, $1000 CPU+RAM+MB etc.
It's around the same price.
>>432703267
>just wait
No need for that. There are no good games to justify buying anything better than Q2 anyway.
>>432703505
>eye tracking is retarded
You are retarded. Stop single-mindedly focusing on foveated rendering.
Good eye-tracking is an input method on the level of 6 dof headset/controllers, in some cases even better.
>>432703939
you're forgetting that Apple Reality Pro literally DOES NOT DO VR
IT IS SOLD AS A PURE AR DEVICE
>>432703939
i wonder who's behind this post
>>432703939
yea bro im gonna use eye blinks to shoot my gun
but you're right, one of the things from the applel headset that will definetly take off is the interface. your eyes being the 'mouse' and your touching your fingers to click is definitely gonna be one of the main interfaces of the future
>>432704197
>your eyes being the 'mouse' and your touching your fingers to click is definitely gonna be one of the main interfaces of the future
You wouldn't even need to click. You would just need to think about clicking, good eyetracking can figure out your intention just by looking at your physiological responses.
And while, it's fine for "scrolling iphone/browsing net" type of things, nobody says that you can't use eye-tracking together with traditional controllers, which is what I had in mind in the first place.
>>432700451
Not pretending to be rich, because 1k headset isn't rich people shit. Your view of money is skewed
>>432704519
im still hoping they'll release this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmxLiXAo9ko
for the Q3/pro as an alternative controller eventually.
maybe we'll have to wait for the quest 4
>>432704746
hand tracking alone will never be enough
>>432703719
>Buys out your company and limits your technology to only their hardware
lol
lmao
what does the apple headset do that would make people want a hot mini computer strapped to their heads as opposed to just using their phone or laptop or a beefy desktop?
>>432703939
>4090
nigger thats literally the most powerful GPU you can fit into a desktop. this shit isnt going to have 1/10th that much power. what a dishonest comparison
>>432704943
yea measuring voltage on muscles is probably better than optical tracking
in the far future they may be a neckband that does this by reading your nerve root
>>432705297
>what a dishonest comparison
What's dishonest?
I've listed "more processing power" in pros.
And to have a good experience on resolutions of beyond, you would need something on the level 4090, maybe even something better.
>>432699275
It is Pavlov day!
ITODDLERS BTFO
>>432705936
>owning not just one apple device but two
>they basically have the same fucking chip inside
literally
what
is
the
point
i wish we had more proprietary cable connector types
>>432706184
If you think chinks are not already manufacturing usb-c adapters for it, you don't know anything.
It's just power, it wouldn't be too complicated.
I had a new iPhone 12 mini that got bricked due to a software error within a year. Reinstalling the entire OS didn't fix it. Apple store faggots tried everything, told me I was shit out of luck and they genuinely didn't know how such a thing was even possible, and that i could pay $500 to replace its internal parts or turn it in for $50
Fuck apple. It just slowly lost functionality on me until it refused to go past the setup process at all after I tried restoring it one day. Shit literally bricked itself for no reason while sitting in my pocket
I'm not taking my MEDS!!! I AM NOOOOOT
*smears shit all over my face*
i wish they didnt rush the quest3 announcement before the applel one so they could work on it a bit more and copy the applel control scheme with eye trackers
>apple headset is 90 fov
its over
>>432706598
>software error within a year
Warranty, hello?
But I agree overall, I hate it so much that you can't even start using Q2 without a mobile phone, it's so fucking gay.
>>432706806
So you mean the quest pro, because that's all the quest 3 is minus eye tracking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmpQXPrYyuI
Ten minutes, fellow faggots.
the apple vision pro is the ultimate gooning device
>>432704535
You're definitely pretending to be rich. Only rich pretends would buy apple products.
>>432707245
Please avoid calling me the f bomb in the future, Bradlington.
>>432705936
High effort edit friend. Made me kek out loud
>>432707467
Your reading comprehension is terrible. Since when is the apple headset 1000 dollars? Fuck off esl
>>432674370
DFR isn't as simple as fixed foveated rendering, contrary to what many people think. I've talked with a few devs concerning it. The problem is the dynamic nature and the difficulty for DFR is you need to detect which eye the game is rendering to at render time (very hard), not at submission time (easy). But FFR can do this without any need to distinguish between the eyes due to the static nature.
So just because something supports FFR that doesn't mean it'll automatically work with DFR.
>>432707113
i meant one headset with both depth and eye tracking
>>432707245
already predicting he'll be overwhelmingly positive about it like every shilltuber
>>432708231
>The problem is the dynamic nature and the difficulty for DFR is you need to detect which eye the game is rendering to at render time (very hard), not at submission time (easy).
The only difference is latency.
Pull the input till the last possible moment, render.
Foveated rendering shouldn't affect the game logic, so you can pull right until the start of GPU frame.
If the eye-tracking API doesn't provide predictions itself, you write your own, wouldn't be very hard, you need to predict around ~15ms total.
SORRY GEM SERVER GAMERS EPXERIENCING TECHINCAL DIFFICULTIES
What was it they kept calling the Apple headset yesterday? Something like 'optical computer' to avoid using the term AR headset.
>>432708794
lol
>>432709213
"Spatial Computer"
>>432708996
HI GE SERER GAMRS WE ARE BACK
>>432708984
You would think it's that easy, but it's apparently not from the multiple people I've talked with, including the guy who's behind the OpenXR toolkit. Guessing which eye is being rendering during rendering is extremely difficult. How easy it's going to be also depends on the exact rendering pipeline for the game, be it something like single or multi-pass, then stereo, sequential, or mixed.
At least if we're talking injection methods, such as like the VRPerfkit does with fixed foveated rendering.
Slowly but surely they're confirming things about the Apple Vision Pro that were already blasted here yesterday.
The FOV comparable to the Quest 2 (worse, according to some), the enormous size, the enormous weight.
>>432598590 (Cross-thread)
>Heavier than a Quest 2
>2 hour battery life
>It's so much heavier than it should be.
>Runs HOT. It made me pour sweat harder than any other headset I've used, it was fucking gross. Every inch of the headset gets very warm to the touch, as does the power cable which I do NOT like. Reviews will downplay this, even mine will, please take the fucking hint.
>The FOV is just a slight bit better than the Quest 2, colleague says on par with Quest 3.
>115 degree "max", I have a 72mm IPD and my estimates put it around 95 degrees, but that was with a thick "generic" facial interface and definitely could be improved, but it's going to suffer from the same IPD related problems as the Quest 2.
>Did I mention how heavy it was?
>The headstrap feels amazing for about 15 minutes, but fails to keep the enormous weight off your face.
>It put me in mind of my old modified Samsung Odyssey headset, similar weight but better balance, insufficient headstrap.
I've yet to hear anyone mention the heat, although:
>Reviews will downplay this, even mine will, please take the fucking hint.
i just figured out the pico video player supports handtracking
>>432708048
I already told you you act like someone that will buy the apple shit, dumb ESL retard. Pay attention.
>>432710001
>stereo, sequential, or mixed.
Who the fuck still renders sequentially?
Multiview extensions are how old at this point? 5 years?
>single or multi-pass
Who cares? You would need all pixels ready for present anyway, the max latency is fixed.
>Guessing which eye is being rendering during rendering is extremely difficult.
Why? Doesn't make sense. Both eyes are being rendered at the same time, multiview is a thing.
>>432711117
>>Runs HOT
>>It's so much heavier than it should be.
why the fuck did they overspec it this much in terms of computation and add all those heavy ass aluminum\glass?
it should have been a quest competitor with mindblowing displays, an iphone CPU and lightweight materials
>>432645805
An irasutoya avatar would be fun to play around with
>>432706625
Green hell?
>>432712114
walkind dead saints and sinner 1
just finished the story and really enjoyed it overall
>>432707245
>already using apple buzzwords non-stop like "spatial computing" and talking about how many "spatial computers" people will have in a few years
its over, he's been mindbroken.
>>432711854
https://iliaskapouranis.com/2020/07/13/is-single-pass-stereo-worth-it/
Sequential isn't extremely common but some games are still using it because of things like this.
Perhaps there's a misunderstanding here. It's extremely easy for a developer to implement native support on their own. The problems I'm outlining and what I'm talking about is when you try to force it via external tools which have more limited access and ability to interface with the engine. The GPU has no idea what "eye" is being rendered too, it cannot on its own decide to apply the correct VRS mask because it has no concept of "eyes" without being told by the game. Something, somewhere has to set up that mask BEFORE rendering starts. Only the game knows that information and so if the game isn't properly set up to support it that's why injection methods can sometimes be a headache due to the dynamic nature of DFR without having very deep access to the game's engine and inner workings.
>>432711868
It basically does have an iPhone CPU.
People are saying it's overpowered when it's a down-specced iPad Pro processor with the TDP severely limited.
The constant throttling ensures you cannot actually manage to do anything intensive with it.
The real purpose of the R1 chip is the maintain spatial tracking while the M2 struggles, so you'll never lose the smoothness even while the M2 is getting throttled back by half, barely managing to not catch fire while it chews its way through normal mundane tasks.
That delightful clip they showed of Death Stranding running with PS4 level graphics and struggling to maintain 45FPS? That's with the M2 Max 24 core CPU with 76 GPU cores.
The Vision Pro has 8 CPU cores, and 8 GPU cores, it's the weakest version of the M2, and it still generates way too much heat for this thing.
It's inefficient as fuck, paired with the 2 insanely bright primary displays, plus the additional lenticular front display, jammed into a glass sandwich.
That's why the thing just DRINKS power and even the (~30W) external battery pack can only run it for about 2 hours of web browsing and note taking, less than 1 hour watching a 4K movie.
The peak power draw is easily over 45W, that's a 45W heater attached directly to your face.
The iPad Pro overheats, the MacBook Air overheats, this thing will overheat and thermal throttle endlessly.
What would be a good headset to graduate into from a Quest 2 if the Apple headset is just a MacBook and Quest 3 won't have eyetracking?
>>432713536
with it's price point i'd expect the most bleeding edge cooling on the market in that thing
i thought it had laptop-tier power
>>432713674
Well do you want a standalone headset? What's your IPD? What's your primary use? What about the Quest 2 makes you want to upgrade?
Look at the Pico 4 Pro. I don't actually recommend it, I recommend you sit and wait another year, but the Pico 4 Pro would be an upgrade.
Pancake lenses, better IPD adjustment range, better passthrough, slightly higher resolution, 90Hz ONLY no 120Hz, significantly better FOV and FAR superior Binocular Overlap, weighs close to the same as the Quest 2 but also adds Eye and Face tracking.
Technically it's Chinese-market only, but like everything else of course you can just buy one anyway.
>>432707245
stopped watching after 30 mins
bradley is now an insufferable apple shill
>>432714119
It has MacBook Air-tier power, so you're technically correct.
>>432714571
its just pico 4 with eye trackers right?
i really wish q3 had em, im considering upgrading to it just for the passthough
>>432714571
There's no software to forward the P4 Pro eye tracking data to VRC last time I checked
>>432713157
>because of things like this.
Read the article. It feels like it is written for unity "developers", if you know what I mean.
The "problems" highlighted are not real fundamental problems, the advice can be summarized to "just don't be retarded".
>that's why injection methods can sometimes be a headache due to the dynamic nature of DFR without having very deep access to the game's engine and inner workings.
I have no idea why people willingly torture themselves by hacking the rendering pipelines written by retards.
I would want to kill myself, if had to do it.
>>432714670
Dunno. He said "I want a headset with the same hardware, but opensource and on linux", which I think is a reasonable take.
>>432608786
hey!!
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>>432714797
>pico 4 with eye trackers right?
Eye and Face! The Pico 4 Pro is probably the "best" all-around and "best value" headset there is currently, but it's Chinese-market and Chinese-quality.
On paper it's a no-brainer, and an incredible value at $600USD, but the reality is you won't find it for MSRP outside of China, support for it is shit, they have the same QC issues as the standard Pico 4 shipping headsets with shit-tier lenses and fucked up screens.
So god damned good "on paper" but in reality its a bit of a shit experience much like the regular Pico 4, a great headset but not great quality or support behind it, and typically over $800USD into your hands outside of China.
>>432715052
It's working! It's all still hacky shit, but it has been done and both Eye and Face tracking are working quite well.
>>432713674
quest 3 or beyond
>>432708231
yeah, I double checked and this FFR injectable i've mentioned actually doesn't have center position, and I guess I can now see the problem of angle between two eyes when you're looking at something close by, probably easy to implement in game, not so much in an injectable.
Oh well.
What exactly is the point of their headset? Usually I can gleam an idea theough discussions online but everyone is literally just talking about the insane price. What exactly is this headset bringing to the table that makes almost 4k dollars for it reasonably?
>>432715662
you can still order it regardless of what 'market' it is i think the question is if you'll have non chinese software for it and if you'll be able to open an account to get virtual desktop.
it seems like great value if you need face&eyes, i wonder if the foveated rendering will work in pcvr.
honestly i only want eye tracking if i can use it to control the headset. i basically want the applel eyes/hand interface but in a non applel product. im kinda hoping q3 gets delayed and then they announce it has eye tracking and UI but thats too much to hope for
>>432716604
Literally nothing.
There's nothing interesting or of note about it aside from the high quality of the displays, as was expected of an Apple product.
It's marketed as a laptop alternative when it's basically a $3500 iPad Pro strapped to your face.
The FOV is worse than a Quest 2, it weighs more than a Samsung Odyssey, there are no controllers and they have no intention of doing controller tracking of any kind, it's incapable of anything that we currently associate with VR aside from watching 360 panoramic video like we all did with our cellphones 8 years ago, it runs too hot, it has no battery life, and any damage to the front glass will completely disable it.
By retards, for retards, gibmedat monee.
>>432716604
let itoddlers get into vr
>>432717391
23 megapixel tho
>>432717613
Is that a custom environment? Everything is fucking low res on my p4
Wish I could easily hack apps/games resolution to native 2160x2160 even if it meants lower framerate
>>432716604
Displays that are close to or at the tolerable threshold for lengthy and varied use.
Standalone hardware that can perform tasks comparable to a dedicated computer/laptop.
That's it. It's the closest we've seen to a laptop replacement but it comes with some huge caveats that undermine it's purpose.
>>432717613
Yes, it's very pretty. If you want a headset just to look through at and remark at the quality, it's THE headset, nothing else compares.
It's an overtly fancy 3D camera, hardly even qualifies as a VR headset given there's NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
Email, Reddit, overheat while writing a note, it's an iPad.
Watch a movie, take a photo, stay tethered the whole time because of shit battery life, it's an iPad.
It handles TikTok and Youtube reasonably well and barely throttles when watching 1080p video, it's an iPad.
It's the newest and most expensive iPad, the new iPad Face.
>>432716604
Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
>show lots of VR use cases for the headset
>never explicitly mention VR
this autism confused me
>>432717853
no its one of the stock immersed enviroments
i think it runs 2160 its just that the max screenshot resolution of the headset is 1920
>>432718309
they'll add virtual desktop,immersed for it.
its literally a brand new XR operating system no shit that there's no software for it.
14 player pavlov is funlov
>>432718601
>i think it runs 2160
breh I've never seen this one in the list of default environement
when enabling the Overlay metrics on my P4, it clearly shows the environement running at like 1500x1500 which is fucking aliased to shit
>>432718601
>they'll add virtual desktop
Oh good then you'll just need some base stations and controllers for tracking because the headset can't accommodate controllers.
Then it'll be a $3500 VR headset with a shit FOV that weighs 700g "but it has Virtual Desktop so if you already have a PCVR rig you can use it as a sub-par wireless headset!"
>its literally a brand new XR operating system no shit that there's no software for it.
Huh, maybe they should've made something for it, like ANYTHING for it before they showed it off. Seems pretty fucking stupid to show off hardware without demonstrating its capabilities.
Fuck off retard
>>432707245
average brad chatter intelligence
>government developed headset
would you use it?
>>432719106
i need to check the metrics i never tried
and yes its one of the defaults
maybe you buy it with the currency you get for using the app idk
>>432719293
virtual desktop and immersed are working on apple controls for their apps as we speak
and they showed a lot of software, far more than any headset launching with a new OS did before release.
prediction: this will be the standard recording device of the porn industry for a while
stop baiting
>>432721091
No.
>>432701747
>>432703939
What's ironic is that the Beyond headset needs an iphone to scan your face.
>>432720435
>and they showed a lot of software, far more than any headset launching with a new OS did before release.
They showed iPad apps.
It was a bad presentation, it's a pathetic headset with pretty screens, defending them is sad.
>>432721823
>Even more app experiences: Apple Vision Pro has an all-new App Store where users can discover apps and content from developers, and access hundreds of thousands of familiar iPhone and iPad apps that run great and automatically work with the new input system for Vision Pro.
>familiar iPhone and iPad apps
>>432720435
>new OS
Don't use words if you don't even know what they mean.
It's a "new OS" the way of their Apple tvOS, it still shares ALL of the same underlying shit that runs on the iPhone, iPad, AppleTV.
Meta could've applied a skin on top of Android and called it "MetaOS" if they wanted to, but they're not trying to market to retards and faggots who don't even know what they're buying.
That's Apple's market exclusively, ignorant cunts.
>>432721823
The fact that they have the entire iPad/iPhone apps available on launch is far more than any headset productivity headset.
>>432711117
The Tested mentioned nothing about the heat and I'm gonna find him more credible than some random anon who is just repeating shit that has already been public.
It's just funny to me how people are allowed to talk about the weight, FOV, but somehow the heat is the one thing they're not allowed to talk about? That makes no sense at all.
he's right
if they added anime girl eyes to the outside screen it would be 10 times more successful
Quest 2 user here. I quite enjoy my headset, but the random hiccups from virtual desktop bother me sometimes. Should I just bite the bullet on a pc headset or just wait another year for a different upgrade
>>432722834
upbooted, my fellow reddirtor
us ironic weebs, am i rite?
>>432628846
>Not based
yeah its cringe
>>432722482
>20 minutes of looking at and taking photos and videos
>Browses the web real good
>Their own Dinosaur demo has PS3 graphics
You hear what you want to hear to justify the $3500 shit-tier headset with pretty screens that Apple has just shat-out because you're a faggot who knows nothing.
>>432723235
Which pc headset are you thinking off? What tracking solutions? It's pretty hard to beat the quest 2 300$ pricetag, even with all the issues it has.
>>432722834
If they used human beings for the commercials they'd be successful.
>>432715052
There is. Official Pico streaming assistant and there is a VRCFT module to grab the data.
>>432722834
I'm not against the idea of a panel on the front to show when the user can see via passthrough but they should just use some cheap low power LCD and stylized visual instead of this uncanny flat scuba goggle effect.
>>432720169
it doesn't exist
>>432723235
There's not much for a PC headset. The only new decent option is bigscreen but that doesn't even have a wireless option and you need base stations + index controllers so it'd cost like $1500 USD. Also, you need an iPhone to scan your face so they can make a custom face gasket. You can wait for the Quest 3 and I'm sure it'll be the best wireless headset because of the new chip, and software will probably be hella polished by then.
>>432723425
People who will buy a $3500 headsets are people who love buying first generation shit and have the money to do so. No one buying it will care about the money being spent.
>>432723449
I don’t think tracking matters much since I ended up getting base stations. As for headsets, my eyes were on the HP Reverb since I heard that was really good for playing games on, the index since that seems the be gold standard (even though I don’t want to deal with the constant RMAs) and the Pico 4. I have slight interest in the Quest 3, but I’m iffy on it
Anyone know what happened to JamBam? Haven't seen him in forever.
>>432723881
idk it looks kinda cool imo when it does the color thing in pic
its not as cool looking as the beyond but it is a cool looking headset
>>432723979
>No one buying it will care about the money being spent.
Or the features, capabilities, specs, comfort, use-case, ...
I can't wait to see someone wearing one of these pieces of shit at a Starbucks, I won't be able to contain myself, I'll laugh until I piss myself.
Though I don't expect to get that opportunity here, they wouldn't make it to the Starbucks before Jay-mawl and Quetzalcoatl beat them to death for their pawnables.
Will the west ever get the pico 4 pro at MSRP? I'd buy the thing right now if I could get it for 600 USD
im gonna buy the first headset that rips off the apple hand+eye interface
im tired of controllers
>>432715662
I just don't see why you wouldn't want to spend $400 more for the Meta Pro which has local dimming, 12 GB of rams versus 8, 2 more sensors, a stronger processor, an actual next gen controller, charging dock to easily charge everything, better pancake lenses, better software, better tracking, and hell, you can also use the Meta pro controllers on the Q3. There's just way more value out of the Meta Pro.
>>432724194
Eh, I'm not gonna lie. The Beyond has always looked like a 3D printed home made headset. It looks cheaply made. Vision Pro actually looks futuristic and extremely high quality.
>>432724194
imagine the weight
>>432724843
thats the price right now
>>432724960
Also, no fucking headphone jack on the Pico 4?
>>432725139
Send me a link
>>432724194
>wasting battery life on a screen that you can't see
bravo tim apple
>>432725139
I've read bad stuff about CN imports for Picos. Like a week ago or so they pushed firmware/OS updates to prevent you from region switching so you get completely locked to the CN region. The owomushi guy had a complete meltdown over it. Kind of a shame since the headset seems really good in terms of features at this price point.
>>432725310
They have to be, they're currently and thin ice and at a risk of being barred from the US entirely.
Their focus is on their biggest product, TikTok, these Pico headsets are just a faff for them, they aren't worth trying to push into the US while they're fighting to keep their most profitable product in the most profitable market.
>>432723997
>I have slight interest in the Quest 3, but I’m iffy on it
Why are you iffy on it but have the Pico 4 in mind when you can't even buy controller replacements for the Pico 4 and the support is worse than Index, so you're likely to have a shit experience with RMA? The Q3 will have a next gen chip which will very likely benefit PCVR because of better encoding options and possibly better wifi capabilities.
>>432725528
They're not going to push shit in the US until the FBI finishes their investigation.
>>432718815
it's very based, I wish we could have that more often
>>432725562
115$ controllers
>>432726212
Are these the official replacements by Pico themselves?
>>432725562
Well I heard a lot of great things about the pico, especially when compared to the Quest 2. I’m willing to give the Quest 3 a shot, but I’m hoping they have a stand-alone version since I already own pro controllers
If you're buying a chinese headset or one without native steam vr support you are an idiot.
>>432726419
Do you need them to be personally blessed by the pico CEO or what?
>>432726772
Want to know that they're not shit, aftermarket controllers can be trash, whether we're talking VR or console gaming.
i hope they add the hand shit to pico
the pico os hand tracking is already decent even if the hand ui is kinda meh
>>432727046
First time buying chinkshit?
It's not madcatz, those controllers are manufactured on the same factories.
>>432726212
Really nigga?
>>432727353
So they're the the stock ones, not shitty lookalike aftermarket ones. Thanks buddy.
>>432727221
They need a way bigger dataset for the AI detection to work
Meta beat them to the punch and I don't think pico will catch up until many months from now
Imagine needing to see your hands to type.
Stupid fucking normalfaggots and their love for useless gimmicks.
>>432727742
arent immersed doing their own hand tracking?
pico probably havent shared their api or its shit
Why is Tabor's netcode so much better than Pavlov's?
>>432727991
its even better than tarkov which is really funny
>>432728659
Tarkov's has the same problems as Pavlov. Possibly even worse.
>>432727991
I've only played contractors as a pvp vr fps so I've got no other points of reference and I'm not too fond of the netcode. It's too lenient on letting high pingers get the advantage on you. Hows Tabor exactly? Piggyback question but is there a vr fps game with netcode similar to CSGO where everything is server sided?
>>432728864
I personally find CSGO netcode incredibly bad. I guess it doesn't like some aspect of my connection that other games ignore, but it's essentially unplayable.
>>432728762
Tarkov's is every bit as bad as pavlov's, yeah. Both games have an insane level of peeker's advantage. You become 300% better at tarkov once you realize that the way to win is to just always rush the other side down.
>>432728864
>CSGO where everything is server sided
Since when csgo is completely server sided?
>>432707245
He looks like he's gonna troon out soon.
>>432729606
Unless you count local movement prediction as a core pillar of netcode then probably around 2013~
Ever models you see on the map is virtually images of your ping - 1 tick, spread patterns are server side to fuck up with cheaters. Backward reconciliation on shots, first to hit is prio with damage so you never get instanced of two guys killing each others in a firefight. It even occludes players through the maps as well to fuck up with ESP if your POV is not meant to see them.
Might suck if you get 70+ ms to the server with jitters and packet loss but for most of western europe it's an amazing experience I think.
>>432730118
>spread patterns are server side
That change was long after the skins update, not 2013.
>first to hit is prio with damage so you never get instanced of two guys killing each others in a firefight.
That's because all the guns are hitscan. Most vr shooters actually simulate bullet travel.
>Unless you count local movement prediction as a core pillar of netcode
Because it's fucking is? Why do you think peekers advantage/dying behind corners is a thing in the first place?
Saying csgo is completely server-sided is just wrong.
Half of the things you listed, while useful, don't really fall into the "netcode" category.
>>432727562
btfo
Does vrg consider Karin a loli model?
vrfg has a serious paedo problem holy shit
>>432729957
he's been hrt for years. nipples protruding
>>432732585
who?
>>432732694
>who?
Your hairy little brother
>>432732268
yes. but also who cares.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZVSd7i2sIw
>>432732268
no
>>432732268
Would you consider a character like Asuka to be a loli?
>>432732268
yes
>>432732268
absolutely yeah
>>432733639
I appreciate the comparison but would say that in this picture Asuka's thicker neck, smaller head, and smaller eyes proportionally, among other things, make her look quite a bit different.
He's asking specifically about this one btw;
https://booth.pm/en/items/3470989
He wants to know if this is too loli-ish.
>>432734459
well yeah no shit thats loli, whats the problem?
>>432732268
Yes, crinkle boy
>>432734459
ToT
>>432734459
>is thirteen still loli? its got the "teen" in it after all
Yes, the model of the small child is in fact a model of a small child.
>>432735741
All you gotta do is stretch her out to be over 5ft tall and suddenly it's a small-statured woman and not a prepubescent schoolgirl.
>>432736152
Oh they stretch her alright, don't worry.
>>432697438
No, but most of vrg should lose weight like the ducks.
>>432724134
I miss him
>>432724843
Not when bytedance is banned in the US
>>432724134
he's going through some irl things
he had a sudden showup at the nl meet but it seems he's taking a break again
>>432715295
thank you all for coming!
i did not expect that to be so long sweet jesus
see those who can make it next week for something shorter than this
Trying some snow drifting in Assetto Corsa tomorow night at 8PM EDT (about 24.5 hours from now).
We'll be running the Red Ring track from the WDTS Winter Drift pack, along with the drift cars from the same pack with studded tires.
Linked the mod pack plus a mirror below, both should have the same files.
Server is up now if you want to test anything.
server: vrg racing
pass: tfwnodriftfu
voice chat (mumble): voice.vrg.party
mod pack: https://files.assettocorsaclub.com/file/acclub-files/3faf8a/WinterDriftPack2020_v12.zip
mirror: https://mega.nz/file/EUoRlYbB#WiB0oAr8cd5aHB5nAqvS0tgMznQ7WD7sWOLObIi4vuo
>>432744553
Also, here's the car list in case anyone is curious.
Can't take any requests this time around because of how the mod pack works.
>>432744553
this week sounds like a lot of fun, thanks for putting these together every week
>>432744553
I can't drift.
anyone got experience with pimax? might just ditch the idea of owning a declared or that big screen headset.
>>432745993
The little bit I was able to do when the EUs were running it was pretty fun, I'm looking forward to it.Thanks for showing up, wouldn't be as fun by myself.
>>432748484
Snow drifting with these tires actually helps if you're interested in learning. It lets you practice at low speed where you have more time to react to everything going on.
>>432748849
chinkshit in the worst form.
constantly overpromise and underdeliver
garbage software
if you have any standards whatsoever, avoid it like a plague
>>432748849
>giving up on deckard
>giving up on bigscreen
>thinking chinkshit is the answer for hardware
anon, i...
>>432749087
>>432749229
yeah but have you actually owned one and tried it?
>>432748849
>>432749087
That's about it.
Pimax makes very technically impressive headsets, but they're SHIT for the end user.
Shit quality, shit support, their lightest headsets are heavy as fuck, their smallest headsets are MASSIVE.
They're REALLY fucking cool on paper, and REALLY cool to stick your face into one (The Pimax Crystal is a hell of a thing).
Pimax headsets are like boats, you don't want to own a boat, nobody should buy a boat, but it's cool to have a friend who made that mistake themselves and lets you enjoy it from time to time.
>>432749025
>>432745018
>>432744553
I can't drift. I can't even correct oversteer without crashing.
>>432749025
I'm a FWD god. Fuck drifting.
>>432748849
5k super was jank
didn't fit my face super well so each side looked pretty different and I could see the whole display further away on one side
wide fov is neat
leap motion addon was neat
warping at edges was obvious
rainbow abberation was obvious
pitool sucked
>>432749458
If nothing else, it'd at least help you get better at correcting oversteer.
>>432749807Using lift-off oversteer to get FWD cars to turn can be fun too.
I like doing the 5 extracts without dying mission in Tabor like a roguelike game. Start with a lv1 chest rig, a backpack, and a pistol. Go in silo and immediately try to get a long gun. After a long gun is acquired, attempt to get armor and a helmet. Each time I extract, I can only use the upgraded gear I've picked up from the previous run. Finally got my first clear today!
Finally Announcing our summer event DJs: Brooke and M!! I shouldve done this over the weekend but I was doing weekend things. Work on those Summer outfits when you can!
>>432748849
Pimax is the worst bootleg chinkshit you can imagine. Their latest product launch was a fucking disaster, shipped with tons of issues.
Only Shillseeker could come up with a title praising the Apple's price-tag.
>>432757413
it beats the XR3!!!
at... being an iPad on your head
>>432647981
08th MS Team starting in 10-15 minutes, watching episodes 1-4 tonight. You can join offSilencenor anyone in New Cinema 1336 if you're interested.
bros... our content drop...
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>>432759550
oh fuck yes!
>apple invented VR, and it sucks
>nobody's going to buy this, everyone hates headsets
>>432748849
Dextero is the only person I'm aware of around these parts to own one
when does tipsy tuesday start?
>>432765980
its cancelled
Remember me?
>>432765980
Check trash, he usually posts it there since its a trash first event.
>>432759791
fun pypy all
next NA pypy is Thurs 10 PM ET / 7 PM PT
>>432775472
finally a good avatar
>>432724960
i fucking love transparent electronics, beyond looks like something straight out of snow crash or a william gibson book
i hope it succeeds and they make more headsets in that style. maybe a quest 3 competitor eventually
>>432766431
People in this community actually bought in on the Kickstarter. I wish I could remember who so I could laugh at them.
>>432782963
kinda curious to know what actually happened to the company. was it just a scam?
>>432782963
off the top of my head, RH, R, Y, M, S, and BH
>>432784193
iirc from what ex devs said it wasn't set out as a scam but they over promised and ran out of money
>>432784943
That's pretty much it.
Sad part is the headset was real, and it was god damned good.
They overextended tremendously, realized they couldn't afford to do a Sony and lose shitloads of money on their headset in hopes of making it back later. Pushed anyway, and kept pushing, and tried to partner up with another company to manufacture it as a cost-saving measure. That also failed miserably. Tried to keep things under wraps while grasping for funds, "disgruntled" employees started saying the quiet part out loud, and it all fell apart.
Wasn't a scam, there was no cut and run, it was just a very poorly operated business that failed slowly.
>>432786184
what country were they from again?
Hey there, you curious bunch! Get ready to go bananas with the virtual reality sensation known as "Gorilla Tag"! It's time to unleash your inner gorilla and swing into a gaming experience that'll leave you hooting for more!
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>>432786497
Number 24, Sukhumvit soi 43, Watthana
Bangkok, 10110
Thailand
>>432787874
the picture says sunday but its FRIDAY
FRIDAY
FRIDAY
FRIDAY
FRIDAY
>>432787874
i thought this was a cvr event when i read chimpout
>just finished watching WWDC 2023
They said magic/magical 19 times during the 40min section on Apple vision pro. I felt they sold their device better than METAs attempt at selling the quest pro. I”m keen to try one out when my local Apple Store gets them in.
>>432757413
>pride flag in profile picture
I hate this faggot so much
>>432689801
>nta
what the fuck does this mean why do i see it in so many posts are you ironically saying "not the asshole"?
>>432793415
"not that anon"
meaning, "i'm responding, but the original reply wasn't mine"
>>432793415
Please lurk for 2 more years before posting again.
>>432743857
What's his endgame?
>>432793415
>>432793501
reddit with autism
>>432793516
>>432794047
fuck off ive been here since 2004 and have never seen that shit until recently
New record everyone
>>432794281
"NTA" has been used by reddit refugees for like 2 years now, don't worry about it
>>432794035
All toilets. Cleaned.
RE7 and 8 are on sale. Are the VR mods any good?
>>432794035
On my bed
Contractors lobby on Friday at 18:00 UTC!!
Mod list:
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/q-ghosts-favela
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/q-mwr-crossfire
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/q-mw2-terminal
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/mcdonalds
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/gunsmokeandcharmclassic
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/haloloadoutmod
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/h3moonstandoff
Going to try running the game bi-weekly alternating with Gorilla Tag for a while, put them both on the calendar in the OP.
>>432743857
My wife RN is so cute!
>apple announces headset
>vr thread dies
>>432807264
Thanks for the necro bump!
>>432795054
Now change it to "LOSING GEAR TO BUGS" and track conveyor belt eating your items.
>>432798165
BUT BREACHERS!!
>>432808030
I need to track items I put in before the conveyor starts eating. However I highly suspect it is random because I have had the case where I reloaded the safehouse and the very first item I put in was eaten.
But yes, bugs and crashes eat up a good 50% of my stuff.
>>432808120
I think EU doesn't breach anymore
>>432794035
to collect disability cheques after blinding himself by shining cheap chinese lasers into his eyes
>>432808120
Thats not SEA breachers thats an EU lobby
>>432810440
Yes, EU breachers is a staple friday game
>>432810496
hyperdash lasted longer than breachers
>>432811520
And tabor is going to outlast all of em
>>432811520
Hyperdash was better for community organized lobbies. Local voice chat, quick respawns, competent bots and sometimes free to play.
Breachers is too competitive focused. No chatting with the other team at all, only being able to watch your teammates during the long downtimes, useless bots that put you at a major disadvantage and it all gets repetitive fast.
Somehow these are two of the most polished multiplayer VR games yet also the only ones I've bought to play with /vrg/ that I've not got much value out of.
>>432815873
well hyperdash is free again, people just aren't into it because of the gameplay and no modding support like pavlov/contractors
>>432794035
O kurwa...
Hey, PyPy today at 17 UTC that's in a bit less than 3h , see you dancing, keep hydrated as the heat comes
vids here:
https://rentry.org/vrgpypy
>>432807264
>apple announces exclusively AR (read: iPad/iOS apps only) HMD
epic
>>432811520
breachers is probably happening after gorilla tag
i'll host it myself is busta doesn't
>>432815873
Breachers really needs those 2 new maps
It could also do with more deathmatch maps and a free4all mode
>>432818957
Yes i will host SEA breachers this friday 9pm aest
Started with nothing but the M1911 and managed to make it out of Island with
>purple keycard
>GPU
>tier III armor
>tier IV helmet
>large backpack
>silenced vector 9mm with a laser and two 50 round drums
>silenced M4 with a laser, angled grip and Holo sight + magnifier
>PP Bizon
>>432820104
Bad news for you is that the purple keycard doesn't open anything. The rest of the stuff though is gold, did you cap some players?
Am I just unlucky, or is there never anything good outside of orange keycard rooms?
>>432787874
gorilla tag changed to 9:30 AM UTC btw so as not to interfere with SEA BREACHERS
>>432820335
It's a case of luck and yes most stuff doesn't really spawn outside of keycard rooms. You can make a decent living with the GPUs, food and attachments that spawn outside of it though. Outside, high tier armor spawns often enough, but only the tan helmet is routinely found. You're not gonna find many scars but you'll find M4s and good armor.
>>432820209
>the purple keycard doesn't open anything
Fug, I was hoping it would open one of the secured areas that seem to contain solid loot
>did you cap some players
I ended the raid with 7 Fenix kills and 4 Ghost kills. That Bizon I picked up after killing a player with my 1911 who wasnt paying attention while looting the church off the bat, I took down a duo with an AKM I picked up off a Fenix, then finally the amour/helmet, Vector, and M4 all came from a kitted player I caught with his back turned to me while making my way to the boathouse extract. He was camping in the grass looking towards the area and I wanna say I dumped half of the 64 round Bizon mag to take him down
>>432820335
Its rare but ive picked up the occasional SCAR, MP7, or ASVAL but like >>432820656 said you'll mostly be coming across low to mid range stuff
>>432821549
Sounds like a very solid solo run. Jealous of the t4 helmet.
>>432823278
Thanks anon. I took a break to make some breakfast but I have the day off and still feel like im in the middle of a Tabor kick. I didnt play for the entirety of May and know its kinda pointless with the wipe coming a little over 3 weeks from now but im a few missions away from getting Spectre to level 3 and wanna mess around with some different guns before starting from scratch again
>back from vr break
>go to just b
>start interacting with a mute
>start to cuddle
>take it to another instance
>erp
>>432823876
Once you hit spectre level 3 you're basically finished trader levelling
>>432821549
Holy shit I love tabor, looting and shooting is so much better then shitlov gungayme
>>432824328
I just wanna rip through Silo runs with the Saiga anon. Through past raids ive already accumulated 4 standard mags and a drum mag for it. If I can find another drum by the time I reach Spectre level 3 ill be a happy lad
>>432824556
Me too anon. The new trailer shows at least 2 maps on the console as well as a night mode for Island. I imagine there'll be a gap between each new map but im excited either way
>>432825909
What trailer?
i wonder where their displays are made
if they have some timed exclusivity contract going on we're gonna get some sweet high res screens in a couple of years
im glad someone is pushing the display fabs to the limit
>>432829631
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdSJ3CIoJVU
Around the 40 second mark you can see two new maps available on the console, 1:05 shows the Island at night
>>432829752
some 2 weeks old video from brad mentionned he tested some 3550x3550 micro oled panels from the same chinese company everyone uses for their display
>>432831245
this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOtuMMi9LX4
?
Please stay contained in the thread. You're schizoing so hard that you don't even know what tab you have open
>>432829752
Sony makes the screens in the Vision Pro
>>432829752
Sharp, Sony, and Samsung are leading the pack, no surprise there.
Sony is producing Apple's new "4K per eye" Vision Pro displays, and has licensed their display tech all over the place, they hold a lot of OLED related patents.
JDI, the Japan Display Company that was jointly formed by Sony, Toshiba, and Hitachi, is one of the main suppliers of panels to Meta for their headsets.
BOE, Beijing BOE Display Technology Co, is also a supplier of panels to Meta.
In the past it's been reported Meta has worked with or been working with SK Hynix and LG Display to improve micro-OLED tech specifically with VR in mind.
JDI & Innolux last year started showing off their 3240x3240 ultra-high PPI (2016 pixels per inch, damn!) LCD panels designed specifically for VR headsets.
Samsung is in the process of buying out/merging with eMagin to leverage their tech for denser and generally "better" micro-OLED displays.
sisters.... i havent touched my quest 2 for a whole week.
>>432834039
probably 70% of all people who buy a quest 2 throw it in the closet a few weeks later and forget about it.
lmao the furfags have just discovered proteus effect and are wondering what it means.
Keeping an eye on those retards is better than any soap opera.
>>432834039
skill issue
should have gotten a vrchat girlfriend (male)
>>432834204
i do not care. the furfag thread was made so we didnt have to hear about this shit anymore here.
>>432834353
I do not care what you do not care about.
EU VTOL in one hour!
>>432817727
starting now:
https://vrch.at/428pav67
or joinuzugu
Tabor bros where is my 9x18 drum mag
>>432832632
No it was some other video but the company was BOE Technology if you wanna look em up
Anyway it's really neat that a lot of manufacturers are pushing for those since it'll be a net gain for consumers in the end when there's lots of competition. What I'm worried about is the fucking GPU market will never catch up to rendering those monstruous native res and we'll have to resort to upscaling fuckery
>>432835706
upscaling has gotten pretty fucking good, i feel like its much better to be held back by computational power than to be held back by how dense you can make the screens
even on a 9 megapixel headset you can still kinda see the pixels if you look closely
>>432834353
This is historical revisionism and fur erasure. I will not stand for it.
>>432835706
Don't fret, GPUs are already keeping up, and proper foveated rendering makes those insane resolutions much more realistic.
Upscaling fuckery and fake-frames are a given, but at these insane resolutions they're less of issue, look at Nvidia with their DLSS and how it's FUCKING TERRIBLE at lower resolutions but practically invisible "free performance" at 4K.
I'm definitely not saying it's going to be super-easy no big deal at all, fuck no, it's still going to be high-end GPUs driving the high-end headsets.
The performance improvements for VR have been exceptional for these last few generations of both AMD and Nvidia offerings.
>>432837236
mmmm that's good stuff
>>432832991
By the way, its confirmed that Moub is the shitposting schizo in the threads
This is the official /vrfg/ thank you for calling off your schizos and allowing us to get back to normal.
Thank you so much! Thank you!
why are you stick poking
>>432797845
Well I took the plunge and bought 8 and it runs really well. Everything mostly work out of the box, only had to re-enable TAA because the aliasing on hairs was horrible otherwise and that's it really. Only ticked on the "
Motion controls are basic but they work and there's no manual reloading unfortunately. They've got some custom motions like pulling meds from behind your right ear, opening the map behind your left and to guard from attacks you put your two hands in front of your face.
The game looks fucking amazing in the headset and I manage to run it at 90fps @ 2750x2750~ per eye on my 4080 so that's nice too.
>>432834929
EU VTOL server up!
Main branch, Server name EU VTOL, Pass 'hotdog'
are you ready to buy a designer head strap with nothing really different about it for your designer headset?captcha: RJRPG
>>432845368
No. I'll use my q1 until it dies.
Yes I know support is ending soon but who gives a shit so long as link still functions one way or another. And hell even if they do kill link support I'll still be able to use it with AMD's driver streaming and a sideloaded receiver app which is weird feature but whatever.
My point is they'll have to take my quest from my cold dead hands.
>>432845749
as someone who started with quest 1, then went index to quest pro, i'd recommend the 3 when it comes out
>>432845918
Did I stutter?
>>432845368
where's my ROSE GOLD
Alright motherfuckers it is that time of the week again! We are well into summer now as the waning up and downs of, well, everything is going on. Through the heat and changes that happen this time of the year we have the usual line up of Wish upon a Star and the general theme of beach outfits, both tasteful choices for avatar work.
Ghost of Tabor will be the game of the week again as the interest continues to be strong. Aiming to match other people up with people who don't have squadmates at the designated time. We always have this issue of people wanting to play, not enough willing to jump the gun and do their own lobby/group. 7pm PST 10pm EST, be there.
Dm *or reply* to the shop man if you have an urge to purge, know what the rot is, and wish to use fire.
>>432847841
I need second opinion on hair
>>432849250
Ugly gremlin go back in the trash
>>432849250
I prefer the right but can't really articulate why. The left doesn't really seem to match the body in shading style or something.
>>432849250
nta but right has more character
>>432849250
I like the way your hair on the left looks like it is entering shirt pockets. Cute overall.
>>432849250
I like the style of the right one more and also the shading, doesn't hide your ears
left could be good with some colour grading and sculpting maybe
>>432849250
>looks like it is entering shirt pockets
bro it's clipping
>>432849250
left has really poor contrast in the texture, and isn't shaped to the head. stick with the old one unless you want to manually fix the new one to match
>>432849250
I like the right more. Left reminds me of Selestia, it's a look everyone has. The shading on the right is cool too.
But your main issue is that none of your shaders really match. Your hair, skin, and clothes feel like three different styles clashing at once.
>>432835349
How on earth did you even get this
>>432849250
I spent a while trying to figure out why you had a pterodactyl style elbow thumb on the wrong side of your elbow
>>432850793
profound retardation
>>432850312
Mainly because they are, they are combinations of bunch low quality booth assets, higher quality booth material and random koikatsu ports made by me like the hair
>>432850991
You should try matching everything into one cohesive theme first.
>>432850870
just you wait SKREEEEEEEE
Found a way to deal with desynced/spinning backpacks. Keep them on your back until you find a locker, then shove it in and use the restriction on movement for it to fix the offending items. In this case it was a glock looted from a player.
Should i buy tabor now?
>>432852501
The best time was yesterday, second best time is today. It's great fun. The core gameplay loop is extremely solid, and the VR elements are well implemented if buggy. The VR combat also aims to nerf long range combat making for an experience where getting killed in unfair engagements is more a skill issue than bad luck.
For example this death; skill issue. I did not clear.
>>432852387
It stops spinning if you press the trigger to close it.
>>432852741
>VR combat also aims to nerf long range
That's not really an aim, it's just a natural consequence of a more complex input method.
>>432852501
it works great as a quick game to get raids in a multiplayer platform, but for a complete shooter it lacks content
h3vr for sp content and tabor for mp raids is the perfect combo
>>432852741
There aren't many places where you can do long range sniping anyway, lighthouse and church have poor coverage, hills are exposed and research rooftop can only cover boathouse. But there definitely are exfil campers that will go for 100+ shots so don't move in straight line if you can be seen from obvious sniper spots.
Holy fuck about damn time
>tryhards stomping around in full squads with l5 armors and altyns just to kos everyone
you retards thought the same endgame cancer wont happen but tabor is just as bad as tarkov because core audience is the same tryhard euros
>>432855451
Cope harder anon, headshots still clear, aim for their fucking head and it doesn't matter what armor they have.
>>432855451
>>432855764
Center of mass, bros...
Not like this...
>>432855451
Yes that’s me, cope harder bitch boy and get good. I’m a walking loot piñata, all it takes is you having balls and a good shot
>>432855336
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>432855451
I don't know what servers I'm being put on, but I'm still never seeing players with high level gear.
>git gud bro
>just kill 3 kited tryhards in discord call solo with your sks bro
>just nolife until you can bring nofun kit bro
youre failed dudebros just like youre failed normies
>>432855336
Pavlovers, is it really time?
>>432856384
Its a loot and shoot, do you expect to not have you shoot? I kill full groups all the time because they are overconfident.
>>432660864
So based, tell ‘em!!!!!!
>>432855336
Have we really had to wait an additional 6 months for Sony to finally approve it?
should i get contractors on the quest 2 or on steam
so far i have only, exclusively pirated games on the quest, and i was thinking of getting contractors on steam because i plan to get the eventual deckard, but pcvr is so badly compressed...
how is mod support on the quest?
i'm really, REALLY hesitant to give bergingzuck my credit card data
>>432856268
The more questlets there is the lower the general gear levels. USW and USE have lots of questlets that run around naked and pose no threat but they're more likely to be duping, EUR and SEA has lower amount of questlets so gear level is bit higher on average but the population is much lower so it's possible to not see anyone outside primetime. Any server outside USW tends to have squads moving around, USW is mostly solos for some reason.
>>432856384
Boohoo nigger keep crying that you suck
>>432856384
Unironically not that hard to kill fully kitted guys with an sks. 7.62x39 stronk. Just don't be the same fool I was and try to clap heads with a pistol when they're wearing that white face shield helmet. It will just bounce off. Also don't just hit the doorframe with your impact grenade when you run out of ammo.
>>432725336
That is so cheap that I don't trust it lol.
I really want the quest pro but the cheapest one I can buy locally here with "cash at delivery" is 1488$ with the link cable. EU taxes are the slimiest shit. One reseller has it at 1200 but I don't really trust resellers.
>>432857467
>That is so cheap that I don't trust it lol.
It's Chinese, that's the whole point.
>>432856860
lobbies here are usually set to PC only and buying stuff on the quest store means you'll have to buy it again if you upgrade
90% of the mods are also on the quest version but I've never played it to verify how it compares
>>432857467
At this point its all on valve to make a new headset worth a dime.
>>432850783
Sometimes magazines glitch out in two ways when you return from a raid:
The first is that they will have no ammo despite having ammo before, but will still contain a few rounds in the magazine that's only use is to be pulled out.
The second is a variant on this where upon pulling the rounds out you discover that there are actually infinite rounds coming out.
I thought there would be a cap at 999 on the loader and wanted to just get a screenshot with it. Didn't actually do anything with these rounds except let them despawn, since there's pretty much no way to store that much ammo from the loader.
>>432857719
fair enough, i'll wait
i wonder if i can pirate mods on pc in some kind of single player training mode? just to check it out
>>432856384
SKS will onetap even through altyn shield or twotap at worst into the helmet. Nigga in altyn and fort has FOV cut by 30% and can't aim properly. If the squad is split you can pick them out one by one easily. If they're not split they'll be moving slowly through one of the high value routes so just turn 360 degrees and moonwalk away to loot rest of the map.
>>432858719
mod.io has the direct downloads, so maybe
>>432858214
The limit is probably 2^31 - 1.
>>432856831
They were struggling with UE5 bugs. Sony got Epic to fix the ones needed for the PSVR2 release otherwise that would have been delayed too.
PSVR2 is getting a patch at the same time to enable crossplay, plus some other changes since release like Nato swapping back to CT in sneed&destroy.
>>432859029
Usually with UI they actually have reasonable display limits so it doesn't look bad when shown, rather than dumping out exactly a 32 bit unsigned that can theoretically be supported.
I guess since it's early access design considerations like that aren't the biggest concern though.
>>432858840
Been using the scar for a bit but the amount of times 5.56 gets blocked by the second best armour is getting on my nerves. Switching back to the AK47 for a bigger round I've found the recoil too high. OP-SKS with a grip is a nice compromise but no full auto fucks me up more often than I'd like to admit.
>>432859962
I'm pretty sure the game is all poorly thought out visual scripting which leads to the numerical value bugs.
>>432859039
I'm ready for so many modded maps to break and never get updated.
>>432860662
At least one of our map makers has quit, so their map may never be playable again.
Man when is beamng getting VR support? Why does it not have it yet? I want to play beamng in VR man.
>>432855336
>next monday
>>432860662
I'm not worried about the ports as someone else will try if the previous ones do not.
It's the custom maps with lots of scripting that might get lost or left to die by their creators if updating is too much work.
>>432860662
>>432860906
If the Call of Duty zombie maps break I'll lose the only thing keeping me on this damn game. One of my favorite things to do in VR.
I can only imagine how scuffed the magazine palming feature will be in Tabor.
>>432863482
AK mag swap works pretty well and HK slap is fine except for G3 sound bug.
>>432864657
The first problem is how it is going to look. They actually have to animate the hands holding two magazines, unlike H3VR where it just floats next to it. The second is how buggy magazines are already with them deleting ammo, refusing to go in the gun, getting duplicated in pouches, etc. and this will introduce the potential for even more bugs.
>>432855451
I can't wait for the spt mod of Tabor.
>>432867528
Training mode exists. Although you can't actually keep anything you extract with. Tabor feels like it would get dull without players anyways, the scavs are pretty easy to take out and not die to.
That said, I would love a single player extraction shooter for VR that was balanced to be single player. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1702840/Paradox_of_Hope_VR/ caught my eye but I haven't heard anybody talk about it here.
>>432849250
Left is way better
>>432868395
>I can only imagine how scuffed the magazine palming feature will be in Tabor.
H3VR when Anton actually bothers finishing the save system. Someone was working on their own over a year ago, but they cancelled it because Anton announced he'd do it himself and expected to have finished by August 2022.
>>432868395
>Paradox of Hope
Can you configure the enemies in the raid? I wanna shoot lootable scavs not giant rattos.
>>432594261
Who thought this was going to be the next big thing?
>>432849250
I ended up deciding on new hair mesh, even if for the convenience of it having 5k polygons instead of 15 like the previous one
>>432869606
toilet-chan cute
>>432869106
The enemy population is random but it's relatively logical spread. Bandits stick together, mutants lurk in derelict tunnels and spiders only appear in dark abandoned parts. Raiding is fun and you can finish the current singleplayer part in 2 hours if you want to try it and refund.
Just give me a normal pcvr headset with eyetracking and facetracking exposed through openxr without hassle!
Is that too fucking much to ask?!!
WHY I HAVE TO FUCK AROUND WITH YOUR RETARDED HACKS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>432869606
Good idea. You can sculpt the hair to more closely resemble your old one later when you're more familiar with it.
frens
>>432869371
Watch what happens when they start to send these to streamers, Ice spice, Lil durk, Kardashians etc celebrities will film short 3D videos that can only be watched on the vision pro and the masses will eat it up. Apple is king when it comes to marketing.
>>432876231
cute...
NA anime tongight at 10 pm EST in vrchat
wednesdays in vrchat and sundays in cvr
Oshi no Ko 08
Tengoku Daimakyou 09
Tengoku Daimakyou 10
https://poal.me/7zzrc
poll still going for our next non-airing to watch, pleas vote
>>432879505
>AMAZING!
The absolute state of vr game industry.
Would have been funny, if it wasn't so sad.
>>432879505
literally worse than anton from hotdog fellating simulator's implementation
>>432880236
How? It floats in mid air in H3.
>>432880503
show me a hand that doesn't belong to a 7'2" tall gigantism sufferer that can comfortably hold two stanag magazines in a single hand in that way.
ARE YOU REEEAAADDDYYY
FOOOOOOOORRR
TENNIS ESPORTS!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wyrV26ANoA
>>432880741
Manlet issue.
>>432881229
I'm fucking 6'4" and I can't comfortably ''''palm''' two 30 round 5.56 stanag magazines.
>>432744553
ASSETTO Time is now. Server is up.But I'm 5 min behind for technical issues already solved.
>>432881345
Girly hands issue.
>>432882404
My hand could wrap around your baby dick 3 times over.
>>432882404
>>432882574
Gaaaaaaaaay. Now kiss
>>432869606
Got to make the ears longer now they’re less visible on this hair. Either that or sculpt the hair a bit more to resemble your old one. I think some shader settings as welll to give contrast shadows for your new hair
>best fighting game finally hit full release
>faggots just wanna talk about tranime and tarkov 0.5 because they'd be out of gas after 10 mins.
Fats are why VR improves at such a slow rate.
>>432884417
I hope you're not on about shit fighter 6
>>best fighting game finally hit full release
huh?
>>432884417
hey friend, relax.
have a snack
>>432884610
Is that a VR game?
Battle Talent. It's blade and sorcery except there's content.
>Battle Talent.
kekd
>>432884692
>battle "talent"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISCLogUjM3s
>>432884846
holy fucking shit this looks awful
>>432884846
>First dungeon
>Easy difficulty
It is kind of gay they chose to make the first couple of levels have braindead AI but it ramps up especially if you play on hell.
>>432885084
that was hard difficulty, he made a 25 minute reply because of all the coping questies in the comments
the enemies are braindead
>>432885084
>make first level hard as heck
>new players get turned off and refund immediately
this guy makes what seems like intentionally disingenuous videos so i take whatever i hear with a grain of salt
his thoughts on breachers just feel completely wrong (he says theres no reason for it to be a VR game), and his love for vr tarkov absolutely baffles me
>>432885517
>>432885084
if you can look at the enemy standing there doing nothing while he lightly prods them with 0 feedback and think "wow this blows blade and sorcery out of the water!" you're unironically retarded.
>>432885319
>It's hardest difficulty um because he said so in plain text!
He didn't even pull up the settings you fucking troglodyte.
But yeah sure never mind the fact that the enemies try to encircle you and attack from multiple angles at the same time in the real game on hell.
Or is this nobody you trying desperately to be vrCrowbcat
>>432885731
it makes sense for a tutorial anon
the enemies on the first level of double dragon 2 and final fight don't do much besides stand there and be punching bags but thats because its the first level of the game
>>432885731
They don't get stunned on hell by basic taps, probably not on whatever is a step above easy too.
Goblins and skeles do freeze when impaled though which is an odd choice.
>>432885882
he literally shows further footage in the response video
>That B&S schizo that shows up every time anything with melee weapons shows up
I'm starting to think you're being paid minimum wage.
>>432886080
>I-it's not the tutorial dungeon on easy because???! IT JUST IS OK
>>432886221
tfw dunk after dunk about to finally be invalidated over a typo.
ESL cucks I'm coming.
>>432886083
>>432886221
Hey, if you want to pay and publically fellate asset swap questie dogslop, feel free
completely disinterested in "physics based" melee combat games where you can see enemies snap into the same 3 animations over and over again
when there's something that actually has physics simulation on the bodies (from competent developers, not SL0 who call it a day when their enemies can only deliver limp slaps against you), then I'll buy your game
>>432886394
I pirated it, lomo.
You have no argument, you really let another man tell you what to believe without seeing for yourself that he's on babby difficulty.
No wonder why you mongs get manipulated by popstar politicians, as long as there's big text flashed in your face you'll believe anything.
Never mind the video creator also holds the opinion that FPS should never be in VR LMFAO.
>>432886765
Oh yeah? Well maybe $20 is too much for me to own you, like I said keep shilling for free.
>>432886080
we have people in the thread saying the video is falsified im sort of inclined to believe them over some random british youtuber
either way i don't know why its even a point of discussion if some early access piece of garbage is a super polished or not
the game looks awful whether its difficult or not
pic related: me when you guys gets upset
>>432886765
Are you high on quualudes right now? What the fuck.
I'm not taking his words as gospel, it's literally a video. Video evidence. Excuse me for not believing a questie dogslop project somehow has an amazing ai hidden behind the tutorial and just made it braindead at the start.
It's not about piracy, either. Some people here don't have TIME to waste on dogshit, whether it's free dogshit or expensive dogshit.
Drunk Pavlov this Friday!! This one is dedicated to a good pal so hes choosing the maplist this week
>>432887118
>spends 14 hours a day dressing up his virtual doll to show to other men and have e-sex
"I don't have TIME to play bad games!!"
>>432886221
>>432886765
>>I-it's not the tutorial dungeon on easy because???!
> tell you what to believe without seeing for yourself that he's on babby difficulty.
Oh, if only we had a way to prove the difficulty he is playing at, something like a recording of a live stream, what a shame.
Oh, nevermind, we actually do have exactly that.
https://www.youtube.com/live/bZpPX31bMl0?feature=share&t=368Get fucked, shill.
Battle Talent is good. I've never played it, but general consensus said it's good.
>>432887232
please no more call of duty maps
>>432886943
A /vg/ schizo that is not only poor but incapable of thinking for itself.
What a shock
>>432880741
>>432881345
my hands are med/small.
kinda tricky but usable
t.5'8"
>>432887118
>Gets told the game is on easy difficulty in the tutorial dungeon and the author lied
>uhhm sweety I don't have time for bad games ok there's evidence
But the evidence is a lie
>Umm sweety the video shows it
Right the video shows it on easy but not on hard like the author claims which does not have hit stun without significant force behind swings
>Umm it's like le bad and they just get hit stunned you see it in the video
Are you an actual fucking retard?
>>432887590
Why do you have so many vrchat website tabs open and multiple tabs of the vrg archive?
>>432887349
If you watched even a bit of the later gameplay of this video you can see the thing he was doing in the first video is not actually working for him at all in this one. So sure, he might've played it on hell later but he did terrible when he did.
>>432887776
laziness
>>432887590
cute
>>432887940
>s not actually working for him at all in this one
Except it does, you fucking retard.
Kill yourself, shiteater. The "game" is fucking trash.
>>432887349
the skeleton fight at 2hr 50min seems pretty engaging, but the non-boss enemies seem just like punching bags
however idk about you guys but this game looks boring and generic as fuck i wouldn't play it even if the combat was good
>>432887360
I've played it. It has some fun features but it's just more low quality VR slop. Wasted potential like most VR games.
>>432888232
>however idk about you guys
It's just one braindead shill who thinks that the game is not complete garbage.
Everyone else sees clearly what that game really is.
>>432887590
Those aren't fucking stanags, read.
>Low viewership
>Constant references to anonymous text boards
>Wojack
Yeah I'm thinking it's yet another mentally ill faggot come to shit up vrg for a few more views.
I swear you faggots get more and more common.
>>432888561
They're not terribly different in size
>>432888696
>gets btfo
>keeps coping
>come back after 6 months
>now theres tarkov but vr
neat now i can suffer in flatscreen and in vr too
>>432889085
Its loads of fun
>>432889085
Tabor is nowhere as painful as tarkov and the main reason is because it doesn't take fucking 15 minutes to get in a single raid and the netcode is surprisingly good in comparison
>>432889085
don't get too excited, it's a bit of a janky broken mess
>>432888975
>gets btfo?
How so? You've just been going THE VIDEO THE VIDEO, when the guy explicitly lied about being on hell, and he deliberately switched to easy which turns off the ai and adds hitstun.
Are you incapable of understanding the English language?
>>432889085
I love Tabor
I love Tabor
I love Tabor
>>432884692
lmao no way you're back here shilling this garbage again
>>432889347
>still tries to gaslight after being presented with 4 hour recording
>>432889256
>>432889321
>>432889341
>>432889483
excitment arises brothers
>>432889610
Timestamp where you show the menu, Oh wait you don't because then it would show you were on easy and had the cheat menu activated as well.
>>432889347
>"the guy explicitly lied about being on hell, and he deliberately switched to easy"
proof?
>>432890268
The link in >>432887349 is timestamped, you fucking idiot.
And I'm not him, I've his channel after checking negative reviews on steam.
>>432890301
Cope out of his ass.
>>432890301
He deliberately cuts any and all menus, otherwise you'd see he's on easy and more than likely has used the cheat menu to change the force of his hits. That's why he won't timestamp it.
It's another faggot baiting for views.
>>432890689
>ignores timestamp
hello battle talent dev
maybe you should fix your garbage AI instead of shitposting on 4chan?
or could you not find any better ones in the asset store?
>>432890542
>Conveniently tries to cutoff the fact that he's activated the cheat menu with launch commands.
What a retard.
>>432891080 (Cross-thread)
>>432891080 (Cross-thread)
>>432891080 (Cross-thread)
NEW
>>432890975
Okay, what is your next cope?
This is becoming amusing.
>>432891156
Doesn't matter, threads about to 404 and enough people saw it before you came in with proof.
Act faster next time you dumb faggot.
>>432891421
>about to 404
>page 7
sasuga, battle talent shill
>>432891421
lol
Even the huggies doesn't gaslight that shamelessly.
>Now the schizo starts replying to himself trying to bait others into joining.
>First schizo makes it pretty convincing the other guy is the real schizo
>Gets exposed, just wanted to derail the thread and doubles down on being exposed
>Comes back turns out it was just the second guy and he's been a schizo the whole time too
What the fuck is going to happen next
>he is still going
>>432893398
>Replies to himself
Makes >>432893080 as well.
Bucko you're the one keeping it going
>Keeps going
>>432700451
can you even run vrc at 120fps faggot
we all get 30fps here
>>432717231
how do you even get my fucking hands on one
>>432887590
That you in the picture on the desk?
I will host vermillion in a dozens of minutes
I won't be talking possibly
>>432905546
yeano
>>432906808
code 8885
>>432889868
There's lots of jank but the economy is still pretty forgiving. Plus long range engagements are a lot less deadly on average. There's also much less camping since adhd zoomers can't just alt tab tabor and watch youtube videos until they hear footstep noises.
>>432910704
Don't try to pin this on the zoomers. If you waste your time sitting in a corner just waiting for people to come to extract, you are the one with something wrong with you.