/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1492

I need to play more walk about mini golf

everyone I've seen play alyx never figures out how the bullet reservoir works and it makes me mad
index is still the best right?

need deckard...

>>447806502
It's not the best in everything all at once any more but it's probably the best all rounder. The pico 4 pro would be a winner but it has "ordering from chinks" issues where if you get a dud you're just FUCKED so it's a big risk.

>>447806242 (OP)
IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR ONCE AGAIN!


come sign up for secret santa 2023
Form: https://forms.gle/Tg1CsTXyNirQYLsR6
Discord: https://discord.gg/3CtPbue

Deadline for Signups November 1

>>447506716 (Cross-thread)
>>447508834 (Cross-thread)
Is that the Gremlin from EX-MODS? It's fucking garbage. I can't believe retards give that literal thief money. Hope you guys didn't pay for that dogshit mod.

>>447806242 (OP)
OK FOLKS.
Please sign up for being one of the halloween house owners this upcoming halloween event.
Only need 10 house owners per timezone please buy a house!

We have 20 slots total.
10 slots for NA
10 slots for EU

https://forms.gle/VyVVFtycwzL7jF3x5
https://forms.gle/VyVVFtycwzL7jF3x5

Aight current working model is:
1) host opens map
2) people filter in

[DO GROUP PHOTO 1 Here]

(Trick or Treating)
3) get the house owners to their respective homes
4) trick or treating starts as a pre-game for 30-45 minutes
5) everyone uses the gathered candies to kill a giant undead pumpkin chicken that then reveals the proper stage-judge system we use yearly

(Costume Contest)
6) halloween judging event starts
7) should be done in an hr or so
8) score system winners on podium and group photo

[DO GROUP PHOTO 2 Here]

Whole event is then done in 2 to 2.5 hrs max

Event is on October 28

>>447787257 (Cross-thread)
I've tried finding every printed label in the world, please help my dumb ass

>>447806668
not joining your /trash/ event.

First!

>>447807014
It's on the bike in bold lettering blindanon, dash included

>>447806502
No
No it is not!
DO NOT BUY FRESNEL LENSES IN 2023

>>447808563
alright then when is index 2 releasing

>>447808872
Two more weeks.

Stop with your retarded forced meme, shills. Fresnels are fine.
Especially when you can get Q2 for basically free (<$150).

index
>ugly as shit
>old as shit
>fresnel garbage
>requires """cord"""
>700$ used
>can do fbt but only with a cord
>ugly ass lcd screen

qpro
>sexy as fuck
>best lenses available
>wireless
>can do fbt wirelessly
>local dimming
>700$ used

>>447809607
a 150$ used q2 will get you a cum stained yellow headset with cheeto dust and cum in every seam

>>447809752
>a 150$ used q2 will get you a cum stained yellow headset with cheeto dust and cum in every seam
No, those go for $120.

Comfort is the deal breaker for qpro.
It also doesn't help that it gets worse and worse with every "update".

>>447809752
setting up a proper wifi net for the qpro is more of a hassle than just using a wire to connect to ur pc and having a lift so the wire is never in the way. in my current home i would have to drill through several walls to have a good wireless setup

>>447809752
ok zuckerberg

>>447810023
No, wire is cuckshit.
Everyone who shills for has a battered wife syndrome.

>>447810023
most people do have internet hookups in the same room as their gaming pcs, so i think that might be a you problem my friend. are you playing wired PCVR on a pc on wifi or something?

wire is horrible unless you literally only play without turning

>>447810023
>in my current home i would have to drill through several walls to have a good wireless setup
If you can use your headset wired, you well can use it wireless even better, you absolute retard.
The cord from your PC just goes to the router, instead of the headset.

>>447810350
heres a rough drawing. is placing a second router in my pc room really enough?

>>447810746
Yeah, that's literally how it works. You want a dedicated router anyway.

>>447809752
I like how none of your complaints actually addresses what makes the index good

>>447810828
well i would still have to drill that hole to lay the cable and thats through a wall + ceiling. i think thats too difficult for me

>>447808872
THISWEEKTHISWEEKTHISWEEK
IT COMES
IT APPROACHES
UNBELIEVERS BEWARE
THE TIME FORETOLD IS AT HAND

>>447810946
Imagine gaming on a wireless connection.

>>447810746
Yeah; you don't need a wireless access point to access the internet, you just need one to access your PC.

>>447810946
Not at all; you don't need to turn ethernet into wifi; you can have a repeater AP that just forwards traffic from itself to your internet wifi hotspot. You only need a good signal between your PC and your headset; and you use a wifi access point to bridge that link.

>>447810845
not sure what you mean, a corded headset with bad lenses and bad display that looks like a brick on your face is like 90% of its features covered

>>447810168
>wire is cuckshit
and using a facebook product isn't?

>>447811040
i use a powerline if that makes you think higher of me
>>447811068
> You only need a good signal between your PC and your headset; and you use a wifi access point to bridge that link.
OOOOOH NOW I GET IT thank you anon you explained it better than everyone else

>>447811169
As for the specifics of setting one up; you need to create a repeater hotspot on your PC using either a wifi adapter or create a mini network with your PC and another router.
I'd have to google the specifics but it's doable.

>>447811159
>facebook is cuck shit
>people paying full MSRP to valve for 5 year old hardware that theyve abandoned and released 1 out of 3 of the games they promised
>not cuck shit

atleast facebook spends the money i give them on VR....valve just takes your money and spends it on CSGO gun skin artists

You guys are really mean to voice changer users.

>>447811456
Good.

>>447811159
>i use a powerline if that makes you think higher of me
Why would you need to drill shit then, retard?
You buy a second router. You pull the internet cable from your PC's motherboard and put it into the second router's WAN socket. You get a second cable, plug it in LAN port on the second router, the other end goes to your PC.
That's it. Simple, easy and no repeaters and other garbage which can potentially interfere, that the other retard recommended.

Literal skill issue.

I just bought the facebook usb wifi dongle because I'm dumb

>>447811398
kek. I forgot about the "3 VR Valve games" thing

>>447811531
Quoted the wrong post, meant to reply to >>447811169


>>447811159
It isn't. Zucc subsidized the headset which was connected to the internet only once on the initial setup.
If anything, it's a chad choice.

>the zuckerberg shills are going all out

>>447806452
Host that lobby, if you're so great!

>>447806502
>>447806610
you can get a pico 4 pro from Newegg, make sure to read the description when ordering (you dont need to do anything it says it just werks)

>>447812061
It's Meta Connect week

>>447812204
Oh yeah if you're american, the newegg pico4pro is a great headset.

>>447811531
i feel like the way youre describing this is not very good and very misleading. the powerline im using is a repeat so what from the other anon told me.
my powerline functions as a repeat, so i just plug the second router into the cable from the powerline and then plug THAT cable into my pc and also use the router number 2 for my vr headset??

>>447812448
america is healing

>>447812485
repeater* i mean whoopsie

>>447812485
you are correct
or buy the facebook wifi dongle
it's a little pricy but at least you can just plug it in instead of messing with routers

>>447812485
I've got my powerline into my router and router set up as AP mode so it forwards all DHCP request from my main router, then cable from router to my pc and that's it. 5ghz network just for my headset for about 70$ and you can create a 2.4ghz one for other stuff and eventually slimetrackers or w/e.
Wifi6 minimum and Wifi6e if you plan on getting quest 3 but I'm not too sure if it's gonna improve streaming quality. Even with a mediocre wifi 6 router you can push 200mbps which is more than enough for most games, haven't seen any that have stable signals for 350-400mbps bitrate when moving your head around.

>>447812485
>i feel like the way youre describing this is not very good and very misleading.
Sorry, you are just braindead. I've literally told you what has to be done in the simplest terms possible.
I don't know what is misleading.
And based on the picture, looks like you understood it.

>>447812448
No way, they're selling in America now?
>Pico official store
Ni-
>actually it's a fucking reseller Newegg marketplace fucker that's just masquerading as Pico
It's fucked.

>be me
>own a q2, qpro
>have an oculus developer account
>never had to make a FB account
>use eyetracking and volume rocker to open virtual desktop
>dont have any oculus SW installed on my PC
>headset runs for 2.5 hours on its own power
>have a 20kmah 65watt battery in my pocket
>charges it to full in 30 minutes
>can do this over and over and run it forever

>>447813316
>>use eyetracking and volume rocker to open virtual desktop
>>dont have any oculus SW installed on my PC
Pajeet, just so you know, you need to have oculus software installed for VD to work in the first place.
Next time put more effort in your shill copypasta.

>>447813609
wtf no you don't

>>447813673
Yes, you do. VD relies on oculus drivers.

>>447813279
i got it because the other anon explained it better. you threw around technical terms like everybody has the same experience as you but thats not reality. describing things instead of using technical expressions is a lot simpler

>>447813752
I'm literally using pico 4 right now and I never installed any occulus shit, only the VD Streamer program and that's it.

>>447813990
Have trouble reading, retard?
>>own a q2, qpro

>>447813940
Uhm sorry anon you don't get that you need an RTL openwrt chipset in a 802.11/b/c/ac/n DNS enabled DHCP zone or you'll get routing packets from your class C confused with the router in the WAN

>>447814290
we have an 802.11c now?

>>447813752
this is not true, VD doesnt use oculus drivers at all. it has its own encoder/decoder. the caveat is that steamVR itself looks for the oculus runtime if youre using an oculus headset. if it doesnt find it it instantly crashes. you can create fake oculus runtime files to get around this, since its not actually using them. (this is part of the oculus-less github project)

if you simply want to look at your desktop via VD, for example, you dont need oculus runtime at all.

pico and vive XRE for example are considered generic headsets by steamVR and therefore dont get this check

>>447813940
The level of "technical knowledge" required to comprehend my post was being able to read labels on your router.

>expecting anon to be able to read

>>447814524
im going to stop replying to you because you type like the autist that argues in here a lot. please do something better with your time like learning knitting. goodbye

>>447814486
I think they've got some emulation layer to get the Occulus runtime working and it's greatest strength is faking being a quest 2 to every games so game compatibility is the best. I've never had to change any bindings in any games so far and I've played like 100.
When pirating stuff you can force games to run via oculus runtime with VD by right clicking the streamer program in the tray bar > Launch game. Don't even need revive or whatever that emulation program is.

>>447814879
It's not my problem that you are retarded yet have strong opinions about stuff, like
>wireless is harder to setup
The solution for you is to type less and read more.

>>447814879
based

>>447814893
the VD dev claims that they intercept the oculus runtime to do that, and yeah even with qpro steamVR recognizes it as a q2. although i wasnt sure if that was for a reason or just lazy dev. we'll see if he updates it for q3 i guess

>buy quest 2
>connect to network
>use shittiest cheapest aterm router given to me by ISP (NEC aterm wg1200hp4)
>router is one the opposite side of the house as my vr room
>boot up virtual desktop
>literally no problems

am i just lucky?

Aight bro what's new in VR? Index 2 on the 27th or was it 28th?

>>447817152
this wednesday!! and if theres no deckard its a new quest so its okay imo

>>447809997
The thought of video game controllers overheating is so bizarre to me

Open up Blender, buy some assets from Booth, rip some assets from games, it's time to get world building. you have 3 months and the theme is winter, anything even vaguely winter themed is fine.
All skill levels are welcome. If you want to build everything from scratch, that's great, but if you want to use booth prefabs and just learn the basics, then that's okay too. There will be a hub world with portals so anyone can visit the worlds at any time but for the event itself the host will have pre-favourited the worlds so they can drop friends+ portals
An email address/discord account will be provided for submissions soon, or just post your world ID in the thread.

>>447817713
>buy some assets from Booth
not only were you telling me to WORK for free, but now you're also telling me to spend money so I could work for free

>>447817884
Give me a second to post the follow up before complaining

>>447817713
There is plenty of free assets on booth. But some free things are listed as having a price of 100-500yen because they have donation options so adjust the price range for best results.
https://booth.pm/en/browse/3D%20Environments%20%2F%20World?max_price=0
https://booth.pm/en/search/udon?max_price=0
Or use this for game rips https://www.models-resource.com/

These are just some things I've bought or found, if anyone has more world assets or tutorials to contribute please do.
https://booth.pm/en/items/1677650
https://booth.pm/en/items/3406912
https://www.patreon.com/posts/beautiful-sky-35667377 https://files.catbox.moe/i3f93b.unitypackage
https://www.patreon.com/posts/32030551 https://files.catbox.moe/w80uxs.unitypackage
https://www.patreon.com/posts/32637838
https://paveloliva.gumroad.com/l/buildify
https://booth.pm/ja/items/1968293 https://mega.nz/file/iIgCXITJ#WBgTi43QDPpnmMOSmyTnlwRn-r1-pg6rAe95BCoyTl0
https://github.com/vvoovv/blosm
Games
https://github.com/pool-parlor/pool-parlor-table
https://booth.pm/en/items/2766178 https://files.catbox.moe/7xlk6k.zip
https://booth.pm/en/items/3115743 https://files.catbox.moe/4uqa2j.zip
https://booth.pm/en/items/3637711 https://files.catbox.moe/cm23yu.zip
https://booth.pm/en/items/3466984 https://files.catbox.moe/sbh3zl.zip
https://booth.pm/en/items/3060394
https://booth.pm/en/items/3061165
https://booth.pm/en/items/3062043 https://files.catbox.moe/qbaw7y.zip
https://booth.pm/en/items/3060872 https://files.catbox.moe/qgio5c.zip
https://booth.pm/en/items/3075449 https://files.catbox.moe/3kgyr1.zip

Tutorials
From the OP https://rentry.org/4tzqs
https://creators.vrchat.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLi52YrrDmY&list=PLPdWkxUSZ65Fp6ICrU7mIq1znAfPwMhNZ
https://www.youtube.com/@VowganVR/videos

>>447817253
>another piece of turd is polluting the market and ruining VR
>it's okay imo

ANON HOW
WHERE IS THE OKAY

I can't believe the finnish cunny is fucking dead.

>>447818290
if its a good hmd i will buy one i think. only ever used ones with a cable so a wireless experience will be novel. of course this is IF theres no deckard announcement

How is the VR mode in Knee Deep? I like detective games but it's not clear how VR works here.

Cute monke.

>>447817152
THISWEEK
HISWEEKT
ISWEEKTH
SWEEKTHI
WEEKTHIS
EEKTHISW
EKTHISWE
KTHISWEE

meta-connect is wed-fri so it could be any of those idk

>>447818506
>shitbook
>good

Anon you IMBECILE

>>447806452
I think so too.

>>447819387
I don't get this meme

EU Sign Language meet happening again at 18:00 UTC
Come have fun signing with everyone, instance link will be up in about an hour.

>>447813990
why do u need VD?

https://streamable.com/n1dlg7

SHE STEALING!

>>447822880
>he keeps coping and coping
Newfags seething lmao.

>>447822880
I started uncontrollably giggling when he slid towards the camera at the end, thank you for sharing this anon

>latest VD beta allows vrc to access eye and face tracking

>>447822880
so wholesome big chungus fr fr

>>447823890
now the several anons who spent $1500 on a failed product can rejoice!

>>447822880
Holy fuck I hate the loading screen music, why is it so awful

>>447823890
Can other games access the eye data too for foveated rendering?

>>447824206
release notes just said:
• Added face/eye tracking with VRChat on Quest Pro

Hi, Monday Chess + Mahjong will be at 21:30CET/19:30UTC (~2h10 from now) as usual
As usual we will start with 1h of chess followed by mahjong at 22:30CET/20:30UTC (~3h10 from now)

>>447822880
I don't like how this makes a generalization out of people who played or reminisce about old VRC. There are those kinds of obnoxious nostalgiafags sure, but not everyone's like that, and there are better points and arguments to be made about what 2017 VRC was like. He could've done better to make the point that modern VRC is still worth playing, without making a caricature out of oldfags.

>>447818867
anon, buy and refund before 2 hours of playtime if shit. it's that shrimple.

>>447822880
I will never forgive them for EAC

>homo and tranny flags boosted

>>447824206
Fat chance that the retard actually implemented the openxr extensions properly. Most likely just some hacky way like usual, on per game basis.

>>447824519
oldfags are a caricature anon
shrimple as

>>447823890
well maybe I'll actually use the stupid thing then

>>447823890
I only have a fixed dead pan face IRL. The only thing different people will notice is that my avatar won't make eye contact like when it was auto.
is it possible with practice to learn to make faces?

god imagine being the autist that never looks people in the eyes and getting eyetracking. LMAO

>>447823585
take me back

>>447824802

furries, trannies, and gays are literally funding VR development. like 80% of vrchat regulars fall into these groups

>>447827641
https://youtu.be/PgFiYD_ZcvI?si=3YLXH_VqHihUfJWL

>>447824802
>>447827643
It's not just VR, this shit is all over the internet.

>600 hours in vrchat
>trusted user
>dont know anyone on my friendslist
>dont ever join their worlds
>dont ever invite them to mine
>just join publics
>choose a new avatar everyday
>go to bed and wake up not remembering anyone i talked to the night before
>do it all over again next time i play

i feel like im the only stable person that plays vr

>>447827852
>internet

Lole it's literally the norm

>>447827850
I cride :'(

>>447827850
Presentation Room bros...

back in 2017 when having VR and motion controls had everyone circling around you because the game was mostly desktop players. i wouldnt call that good times.

>>447821775
Instance is up!
https://vrch.at/dbdfd3rc

zenith is still getting updates it seems

>Visual Progression: Instead of passively unlocking godstones in a list, the new skill tree vividly showcases your journey as you level up.

>Empowered Choices: You'll have the freedom to explore godstone abilities before making your choice. Even when two godstones compete for a slot, you decide your path.

>Deep Dive: Each ability boasts its own branches and nodes. Customize your character to fit your style, with respec options available if you change your mind.

>Community at Heart: We're committed to collaborating closely with you, our community, by conducting closed testing and gathering your valuable feedback during our usual Alpha and Beta releases. After all, this is your journey, and we want to make it as epic as possible. :^)

>>447830323
They can eep slapping on more meaningless shit but that won't fix the core problem of grindy themepark MMO with mediocre combat and no notable sandbox elements being completely unsuitable for VR.

2017 fags are really annoying. No one cares.

>>447829013
It got good during the knuckles explosion. That started in late December 2017 and really got into full swing in January 2018.
Whenever you see someone saying "I played in 2017" they are usually people who got their headsets in December and played for a few days before 2018 started.

VD bros we're so back

• Screen transparency toggle (above the screen in the first 4 environments)
• VR Passthrough option (in Streaming tab) with configurable chroma keying
• Added face/eye tracking with VRChat on Quest Pro
• Added Passthrough environment on Pico
• Added AV1 and AV1 10-bit support (for Quest 3 with Nvidia 4000 and AMD 7000 series GPUs)

when i use VD everything is wayyy darker than with airlink, so dark that i cant see shit sometimes. is there a setting for this? i cant find anything except the vibrant color one which i disabled

>>447831438
based retarded shill not reading the thread at all

>>447831438
>VD woke up and obliterated airlink
OK I WILL BUY QUEST PRO NOW

>>447831674
in the menu there are some "enhancements" enabled by default. turn those off. I can't remember exactly which one.

>>447827947
stable is not exactly the word I would use to describe that kind of behaviour

>>447831438
I wonder how much better quality and latency is with AV1.

>>447831438
>>447824802
I don't know if it's even possible on non-quest VRChat yet but this gives me hope for an actual hand tracking passthrough in Virtual Desktop instead of the emulated set poses. Actual camera-based hand tracking absolutely mogs the index's sensor based one.

>>447833521
camera based hand tracking is awful though, even in standalone games its way too slow. it would really only be for tech demos and not functional in games

>>447833974
You're right about it being fiddly unless you intentionally cater your speed of movements and range of hand motions to the limitations. However, I think the current state is more than acceptable for VRChat and it will only improve from here.

Welcome back racer!
EU Assetto Corsa: European Racing club, season 8!
Race 58.

18:00 UTC 20:00 CET, Monday 2nd of October

We are going back to insane post-war 50ties to drive coffins on bicycle wheels. Maserattis 250F in Bremgarten. Track will be longer than usual but it's really nice.

1 hour practice
12 minutes qualifiers
6 lap race

After race: some chilling in america.

For communication we'll use mumble at voice.vrg.party port 64738, as it doesn't need any registrations or logins.
https://www.mumble.info/


mods:
https://mega.nz/folder/ivAliLIT#veqwVQDkUJxClSBzD5QYGw

>>447806452
Speaking of I forgot to post the lobby from yesterday. Man this maps a pain in some places

>>447821560
When you agree with an opinion on vr or vr games you post "I think so too" with the egg version of your avatar

>>447824503
Chess https://vrch.at/y9fmstk6

>>447821560
It's that one retard with the ugly ass kamen rider avatar forcing it. Just ignore it.

>>447829176
Excellent signing as always, touched on some fun concepts today.

>>447834916
This image looks like real life.

>>447841316
lol

>>447828726
this image looks like real life

>>447842071
What?

>>447844460

>>447844654
Yeah but what was funny about what I said?

>>447824503
Mahjong https://vrch.at/kpf24rc8

>>447844715

Guy, do you get eye strain from playing on quest 2 ?
I've only got it recently and I feel like without proper headstrap it's difficult to adjust it so it properly matches my eyes. Also playing on it autonomously is nice since rn I don't have PC, but graphics are just yeah, mobile...

>>447850501
Right, what are good waifu simulator games to curb my loneliness that I can play from either quest 2 directly or at home given they don't have nsfw content

>>447850834
vrchat but you have to be your own waifu

>>447850834
Gal Gun 2 with the VR DLC, best technically SFW VR panty quest game.

>>447823890
Based

Threadly Dirt Rally 2.0 reminder, we're currently running Group A in Argentina. Event runs through next Monday (10/2), so make sure to get some practice in if you need it. Club link is in the OP rentry if you want to join.

>>447851617
I remember some game where you live with waifu of your choice ( I remember Shinobu in videos ). Do you know it's name?

Also, are there any ones where you can take waifus on dates ?

>>447854098
Viva Project. It's abandoned now.

>>447851576
Sounds like you're describing your firsthand experience

>>447854150
Shit, that's unfortunate, I thought it had some major development over the years.

>>447806743
Not the anon who posted the webms, but I was running the server. No idea where the mod was from since it's not in the car info. Someone linked the mod in the thread a while back, but none of us paid for it.
Whatever mod it is, it's definitely not good though.

>>447854446
There's OpenViva, but that hasn't had a release in over a year either.

>>447855256
I see that the original dev decided to make a desktop companion project instead ???
Why...

>>447822880
>wordswordswordswordswords
jesus where is the joke arent tiktoks supposed to be like 10 seconds long for the zoomers.

>>447822880
I feel like reasonable guy was really owning unreasonable guy there until reasonable guy decided to start preaching halfway through. Kinda weird, usually reasonable guy makes unreasonable guy look like a fool in these kinds of things. I don't think I've ever seen anyone lose an argument against the strawman.

>White women look like this by 20
Hebes were right

>>447822880
Copium.

>>447806242 (OP)
Afternoon /vrg/ Lets all get together for a fun Holiday game and event with creative fun and present swapping! I see a lot of fantastic individuals that are capable of making tons of unique things and I want us to celebrate that in this fun White Elephant get together!

This is not to go against /ss/ but, to add a different flavor to festivities!

I also encourage anyone and everyone to seek out workshop groups or other creative channels to learn new things! Everyone is mroe than happy to help even if you have no experience at all!

Items allowed:
pre-made Items that have been altered or transformed in a creative way ((IE texture work, Alterations and additions to premade mesh))
Items made from scratch completely
Objects, effects or other additional items.

Other than that, it's free reign. Do not feel like gifts have to be Christmas themed, or otherwise, make what you'd like to show off your creativity!

https://forms.gle/nKqn37AJRk4binV27

whats the longest time you have been erping continuously in a VR game

>>447860331
0 minutes. Think you got the wrong door. The faggot thread is down the hall.

I would really like to join the VRchat lobbies posted here but the idea that you guys meet up and have actual gay sex makes me uneasy

>>447861407
gay sex is in trash. lobbys here are no sex

>>447861407
Yep what the other anon said.
Lobbies here are pure, the nsfw /vrg/ thread in /trash/ is the sexo one.
Anons follow this rule specially for lobby posts.

>>447861549
>>447861674
How much overlap is there? Do most people do both or are they effectively separate circles

>>447861751
The communities are separate despite the narrative certain individuals there will try to peddle in this thread.

>>447861852
Good to know, its hard to filter through the schizo nonsense here sometimes

>>447861751
Complete overlap, literally side same of the same coin. anyone who says so otherwise is delusional.

>>447861751
Massive overlap. I'd approximate a 95% overlap at least. Just think of it as another "channel" for our community. The nsfw/funposting dumping grounds fro anything the jannies won't like here.

>>447861993
Just stick to the group that actually hosts vr game lobbies in this thread if you want to avoid that stuff.

I can get a quest 2 now secondhand for 150 quid or do you think I should wait 2-4 weeks for the quest 3 to launch and see if the prices drop much? They're going foir about 175-250 in my area atm

>>447862471
Reminder that people always sell their old tech when the next big thing comes out, but not all of them know what their old tech is actually worth.

>>447637018 (Cross-thread)
I mostly waiting for Starfield's VR version to come out. I thought that Fallout 4 was mediocre at launch but had lots of fun with a modded tot he gills VR playthrough. I'm sure that Starfield will be the same.

>>447806242 (OP)
Reminder that the Pokemon Gijinka event is in 5 days. For those who have not made avatars, there will be trainer hats on the map that can be constrained to your armature.

>>447863829
Neat. If that's a saturday NA time I'll definitely come drop by to be a pokemon master and catch them all!

>>447861751
The purefag circle grows smaller with each passing day…

>>447861751
Would bet on 30/40% of vrg doing stuff within the trash thread but 70% doing degen vr stuff in general.
It doesn't matter what consenting adults do together privately and honestly you shouldn't care, as long as they don't do shit in normal instances

>>447864323
Seeing newfags start lewding within two months is hilarious. There are plenty which come pre-groomed too. I'm sure that the rest of the holdouts will be convinced eventually.

hey!!

Tuesday's movie is Pulp Fiction!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/

The lives of two mob hitmen, a boxer, a gangster and his wife, and a pair of diner bandits intertwine in four tales of violence and redemption.

starting at 20:00 UTC as usual!

I joined in 2020 and I have never and will never erp. Sorry, boys.

>>447861751
Anyone telling you it's 90%+ overlap or any other ridiculous number are braindead. It's closer to what this guy said >>447864525

>>447710560 (Cross-thread)
I will post a Steam join link for the Deep Rock lobby in a little over an hour. As a reminder the VR mod supports foot trackers, so get your vive pucks charged if you want to use them.

>>447863975
It's during NA hours, yeah. Will be early enough for EST anons to make it.

>>447865720
>boys
I'm a cute anime girl, thank you very much.

2 week naysayers looking real scared right now

>>447869610
SteamVR 2.0 more weeks...

>>447869610
if you say 2 weeks every week you'll be right eventually...

>>447869610
>more bloat on top of more bloat on top of more bloat

my vram cant fucking take it anymore

>>447865967
Join by pasting steam://joinlobby/548430/109775243235372803/76561198025337386 into your browser

>>447824802
At least they're funneling that SSDI check into things the rest of us can enjoy too.

Monday Workout is starting in a few!
Join on flagsteeler or use the link below:

https://vrch.at/c3aw5mxd

>>447876790
Can I join in VR and just lay underneath Rhyperior and jerk off?

It's time for pypy dance! For those who don't know, pypy dance is an event where we dance to just dance videos in VR. For those who do know, show up or else

the link:
https://vrch.at/jq99agcv
or join on yuru

It is not time for pypy dance and I will not join on yuru.

>>447879630
It is time for pypy dance whether you join on me or not
You can't run from the truth

It is not time for pypy dance and I will not join on yuru.

It is time for pypy dance and i will use a client to goon under yuru's ass

>>447881561
no look it's pypy right now

>>447881948
I very highly doubt that

>>447872139
>>447865967
thanks, despite some roughmness around the edges and some folks not being able to get it set up in time i had fun.

do people really just download a booth avatar and then do a shitty boring recolor of all the stock assets lmao

nice "personality". fucking hate coomers

I will not join on yuru.

>>447882726
You just described atleast 80% of /vrg/

>>447882726
This might be hard for you, who can't separate a video game character from yourself, to understand. But, my avatar is not my personality.

>>447882726
Booth characters look best when their original design is kept intact, but leaving them completely default would make you impossible to identify. Recoloring the hair/eyes, and customizing the clothes a bit is a good compromise.

What I never understood is people who buy a 50$+ booth character model just to change their design so much it's completely unrecognizable. What even was the point of buying the character model then, seems like an unreasonable price for just a few spare parts

>>447883826
This has to be the most retarded thing I've seen today.

There is usually a bit of conflict between looking good and originality. Some people value originality to a point where they are willing to look worse to be more original. For others, it's not much of a priority.

It shouldn't be too hard to understand that different people have different preferences. Unless you're autistic.

>>447884223
>There is usually a bit of conflict between looking good and originality.
Skill issue.
Imagine foregoing the options of looking good AND be original.

>>447884376
Not everyone has the time to grind out booth tier modeling skills.
In fact, I don't really think anyone here has that level of skill. We have some talented people but I don't think anyone could produce a top tier booth model from scratch. Even the people who do sell the top models on booth sink a ton of time into them.

>avatar that is 71k tris is the same rank (very poor) as an avatar with 1,000,000 tris

someone explain this chink logic to me

>>447883826
nah im the complete opposite, i want the underlying model to be unrecognizable by changing the hair, makeup, clothes, lengthening bones..etc. i use a Grus base but literally no one has ever guessed it was a Grus

>>447884913
there is no need to further segment the 'very poor' rank, both are unoptimized and should be autoblocked.

>grab another one of the 10000 million outfits
>recolor it, add personality
>grab another one of the 10000 hairs
>recolor it, choose a nice morph you like
>do some slight face morphs, edit face layer, eye color etc
its that shrimple, and yet you fags just use default velle/rindo/whatthefuckever

>>447885493
bemoaning the lack of creativity while saying that your idea of it is recoloring some hair and messing with shapekeys is kino.

>"this week i will work on avatars for sure"
>Week goes by
>Do nothing
>"next week i will work on avatars for sure"

>haha i'll make my tda obese and cover it in tattoos i'm not like those unoriginal boothfags

>>447885835
Me for going on 5 years.

>>447884913
The VRC devs are retarded and somehow both expect everyone making shit and using it to be beyond merely functional at Unity/Blender while also providing no tools or documentation on how to get your avatar into an acceptable range if it didn't start there. While the community has done some great stuff, the VRC devs are far to slow to even update their instructions and readme to reflect tools that have been out for long ass times while instead pointing at things that are broken and outmoded like Cats plugin.

>>447885493
There is value in staying true to the original design. For me personally, the design is part of what makes me want to use that model in the first place. It seems to me like sticking premade hair/clothes on a model isn't really that much more original anyway, so I like to keep it conservative.
>>447884376
there are some models which are already at their max potential out of the box, any reformatting is just a downgrade because the original design is perfect and nothing else suits the model, pic related

>>447885835
I've got a filled with accessories and props I want to mess around with but I have 0 energy to actually put it all together...

Any upgrades I should get for my $150 used Q2?
No it hasnt arrived yet

>>447887157
I've got a folder*

>>447886852
>There is value in staying true to the original design

Why would you pick a model based on the clothing/hair it's wearing? The entire point of using a Booth model is that there is a support ecosystem for it with clothing and such that you can easily purchase read; pirate to customize it to how you want to look. The base model is about the face shape, the expressions, and the body build, not hairstyle and clothing.

>>447887232
Battery pack is always nice so you can wirelessly connect for a long time

>>447887948
I got a portable charger and long type-c

Thanks to everyone who came to pypy.
See you again tomorrow (And thurs) at 10 EST

>>447890290
gross

>>447890290
A certain grabbable tail is missing here.

>>447890491
Yeah, I think he'll be rejoining us tomorrow.

>>447890421
you're gross

forget two weeks
TWO MORE DAYS
TWO MORE DAYS

>>447887938
that's really a matter of opinion, but I think 50$ is a complete waste if all you are getting out of it is a base body to use. The character design is part of the value, not just the hair clothing but really the whole character design together. Usually swapping out the clothing is best since the default clothes tend to be boring, but in eyo's case specifically even the default clothing is vastly superior to anything I've seen available. The hair is a more integral part of the design so I'd argue that changing the hair really detracts, but I have seen good alternative hairs on booth here and there

>>447891131
Given how much time people sink into VRC, compared to most VR games especially, I don't think the cost is really something to worry about even if piracy wasn't rampant, especially in the context of people also dropping large chunks of change for the headset and FBT. While I'm not insisting that you have to change the default hair or clothing, which would be hypocritical of me since I do use the default hair since I like how it's styled, picking your base model on the basis of something that you can easily change instead of liking the way the things that are much more immutable look seems silly to me.

>>447891820
Why would it have less value just because it's something I can change? I think it varies person to person what parts of a model matter the most, but to me the character design is 90% of the reason for picking a booth model. If i just wanted a body base, I already have like 100 good body bases in the booths I've pirated, but a good coherent character, designed by the booth artist, that appeals to my personal tastes is more appealing to me. It's kind of like importing a model of a character from an anime I like.
I've been using eyo for a long time, I have tried many different outfits and hairs but it all felt bad because no matter what I did I just didn't like it in the same way I liked the original model, So i ended up splitting into two avatars; one conservative import that's just eyo, and then one which is original, highly edited to be more personal, but vastly inferior and unsatisfying visually

>>447827180
yes
>>447822880
>>447827947
no
>>447861751
maybe

>>447892515
Because if it's something you can change, you can change it to better suit your desires and so considering it when deciding to commit to a model is silly. If you were choosing between two models, one with a good face and bad clothes and the other vice versa, which would you pick? The answer is everyone picks the one with the good face, because they can change the clothes. You finding a base that you like the face on and the outfit is great, but picking a base solely on the criteria of what comes in the box instead of what you can put on it is a poor decision. What you're arguing for is closer to looking at the clothing options and making sure that the model you like has clothing that you like as well, just that you happened to get lucky and it was the base option.

If Valve actually doesn't announce shit within the week of Facebook's event, besides SteamVR 2.0, I can't wait to see all the Deckard Copium huffers to shut up for a while.

>>447894993
>im-fucking-plying

need face tracking boywife

>>447855019
Yeah, the original author's name is probably lost to time now. Most, if not all of EX-MOD's cars are stolen from other modders. I think most of them used to be up on Assettoland, and it's a shame they got shutdown because they at least tried to credit who made what on their website. It's not like they were reselling other peoples' work, just some of it was just leaked payware (which I don't care about because honestly fuck most of these sellers). While some of the cars may be considered abandonware, some were/are still in development. AFAIK, that asshole doesn't even bother to fix any of the issues they have and it's just a straight flip. At least they're not encrypted (yet), so someone who really likes and understands some of these cars - and preferably knows how to model/animate - can fix them and bring it up to snuff, assuming the original author has indeed abandoned them.

>>447894691
Really what I'm arguing is that there's nothing wrong with sticking with the original design if that's what you like, it doesn't mean you are uncreative or unskilled. Choosing a model because you like the overall design is a good and common reason. To me the outfit doesn't matter that much, but the hair is at least as important as the face, since most booth faces look pretty good on their own (but not as good as eyo.) and the hairstyle is the next most important part of the design typically. There's no reason to change it to better suit my desires if it already perfectly matches what I want, and for many booth characters, the default hair and other aspects suit it better than other styles that I may like better overall. For booth characters with a strong visual theme, changing the hair, outfit, accessories etc just results in less coherency

The hard truth is that the original designs look better than what 90% of people make out of their booth edits, I also think it's fair to find value in the design made by the skilled professional.

>>447894993
You mistakingly assume that I won't be posting about Deckard being released in 2 weeks to cope with no announcement being made anyways.

I did look it up, winning off a terminal doesn't disqualify a hand from pinfu.

>>447869610
Based Gabe filling up the Deckard copium tubes.
Steam VR 3.0 never.

>>447897423
>there's nothing wrong with sticking with the original design if that's what you like, it doesn't mean you are uncreative or unskilled
I would argue that no one loves every last little facet of any model out of the box, but the problem with not changing anything even if that was the case is that 99% of people who don't change anything is because they're unskilled and lazy; trying to pick out the .1% who just fell in love with the model as presented in the picture isn't possible nor worth the time.

>but the hair is at least as important as the face
But why? Swapping hair is fucking trivial even if you're not limiting yourself to hair made specifically for the base, and picking one with a face that you like less because you like the hair it comes with is big dumb since you can fix that in a couple of minutes with even basic levels of knowledge.

>I also think it's fair to find value in the design made by the skilled professional.
3D modelers aren't fashion designers nor hair stylists, anon, and there is no correlation between the technical skill and the ability to make a coherent and stylish outfit in the creator. You can argue that face is stylistic enough that it has some relationship with those, but even that is a big stretch. You're normally buying a model because of the technical prowess of the creator, not because they should be sending clothing down a runway.

>>447898123
I just don't agree with the first point. There are plenty of people who use a booth character model because they like the character. I think "99%" is a result of you projecting on them.
>Swapping hair is fucking trivial even if you're not limiting yourself to hair made specifically for the base, and picking one with a face that you like less because you like the hair it comes with is big dumb since you can fix that in a couple of minutes with even basic levels of knowledge.
what I meant is that it is the next most important part of the visual design. It doesn't matter how easy it is to swap out. The hair makes up probably around 50% of an anime girl's visual design these days. If you remove the hair from anime characters it would be difficult to tell many of them apart.

>3D modelers aren't fashion designers nor hair stylists, anon, and there is no correlation between the technical skill and the ability to make a coherent and stylish outfit in the creator
completely wrong here. The 3d modelers are also artists who designed the character. 3d modeling skills wouldn't mean anything if they designed an ugly character design, and also a skilled visual designer couldn't make a good model without the 3d modeling skills of course. Not all booth creators are skilled character designers but the successful ones generally are

What VR games have working mirrors?

>>447899103
batman

>>447894993
I just hope that the burden will be lifted so I can buy a Quest 3 or Bigscreen Beyond and forget that I ever expected anything.

>>447861751
Massive overlap but most separate their behaviours reasonably well. Some do not.

>>447897878
No why would it
It's tanyao that has a no terminals rule

>>447898517
>There are plenty of people who use a booth character model because they like the character
There is a difference between liking the character, and being so in love with it that you find every part completely unchangeable.

>The hair makes up probably around 50% of an anime girl's visual design these days. If you remove the hair from anime characters it would be difficult to tell many of them apart.
If you can't tell apart most Booth models by simply looking at their face and recognizing the distinctive eye and mouth shape, much less the body style, you might need glasses, anon. The question isn't about anime characters in media, which is about their design since they are a fully finalized character and the consumer can't ask for Madoka with Mami's drills and Saber's face. The question is about what base model are you going to build your personal avatar from, and using something that can be fixed as a disqualifying criteria for that is counter productive when trying to make exactly what you want, within the confines of your skill.

>3d modeling skills wouldn't mean anything if they designed an ugly character design, and also a skilled visual designer couldn't make a good model without the 3d modeling skills of course.
Knowing how to sculpt a face and rig a face that looks good in the varied settings of VRC is a technical question and you're buying that technical product. There are people who set out to make ugly models, and do so amazingly to the point that people buy and use them because they still manage to look impressive. You already note that not all the technically proficient ones have a good eye for the quintessential clothing nor the ideal hairstyle, so once again, insisting that the outfit that comes out of the box should be a determining characteristic if you don't like it but like the underlying body is silly.

>>447811456
CUZ IT'S GARBAGE

>>447899103
Noir VR and B&S

>>447878219
also called retard dance because it has nothing to do with pypy

>>447899774
>There is a difference between liking the character, and being so in love with it that you find every part completely unchangeable.
you don't have to be that much in love with it to see it that way, it depends on the person
>if you can't tell a booth model apart by . . .
I can, but only for the booth models I am very familiar with. Anime faces only have so much variation. Booth models are still like anime characters except you can change them.
>the hair etc
all I said was the hair is equally as much a part of the whole design as the face, or nearly as much. It's part of the appeal as a whole. I don't think it's impossible to find a model with bad hair that you still like, but It is unlikely to catch your eye
>Knowing how to sculpt a face and rig a face that looks good in the varied settings of VRC is a technical question and you're buying that technical product. There are people who set out to make ugly models, and do so amazingly to the point that people buy and use them because they still manage to look impressive. You already note that not all the technically proficient ones have a good eye for the quintessential clothing nor the ideal hairstyle, so once again, insisting that the outfit that comes out of the box should be a determining characteristic if you don't like it but like the underlying body is silly.
You're saying that ugly models are not ugly. People do not buy ugly models. It takes technical skill but artistic skill just as much. Look at all the popular booth models and tell me which ones have ugly designs. And I already said the outfit isn't as important, I didn't say it should be the determining characteristic

>>447870052
>SteamVR 2.0 more weeks...
ITS UP!
I
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S
U
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!

Showing Uchuu Show e Youkoso tonight at 10PM EDT (in about 19.5 hours), it's a little longer, so I'll try to start a bit more on time than usual. I'll post details to join off of when the instance is up.

>>447900661
Beta branch is always up. Didn't notice it was updated to 2.0.1 already though. Is it worth trying yet?

>>447839920
I thought that was supposed to be a Cruelty Squad avatar

when I look at VRC screenshots, literally everyone is a girl. Sometimes there's a furry.

Is it just not socially acceptable to use a male ava?

>>447902996
It's acceptable to be male. It's just that people usually like to look good and as guys we like females so we choose to be a female avatar since that's what we like. There's also shotas which are a bit more "socially acceptable" too.
Feel free to be a man though there's no problem with that.

It's just that somehow or another those who choose to be a male avatar hardcore barely posts in the thread and hole up in discords.
It's weird. There are guy avatars but they're so far in the minority.

>>447903230
Well if I was in a a meetup like >>447890290 I'd feel extremely uncomfortable being the only male ava in the group, so maybe thats part of it

>>447902996
It is, but females look cuter and can fit in all styles/clothing so they're just better if you like the dressing up aspect.

>>447903390
I see so it's a feeling thing. I say just take it slow and start approaching from the sidelines and do some exposure therapy. At the end of the day we're all just people.
In VR we can be anything we want so we should enjoy that with that mindset in mind.

>>447899560
I mean the end wait. As far as I know, it has to be a ryanmen, and whether ending on a terminal made a difference wasn't clear. Fu is hard, please understand.

>>447903230
>and as guys we like females so we choose to be a female avatar since that's what we like.
More like agp, homos and prison gays.
>>447903390
I feel like a king under those circumstances
>>447902996
Female bases are more available, has more stuff made for them, takes less work etc.
Always has been, and how it started.

>>447903728
>more like agp, homos and prison gays
omg literally me frfr

>>447895776
too many people with facetracking have lazy eyes/ one eyelid shut while the other one is open its icky

Video games?

>>447899252
Please just hurry up and buy one so the rest of us can get a deckard

>>447908013
...

>>447908013
Mothergunship: Forge is on a 60% sale for SHMUP-fes. Not the deepest game, but pretty fun for mindlessly blasting shit while trying to make broken combos.

>mindlessly blasting shit
So tired that target audience of games are braindead cretins.

My boywife is the best I just want to cuddle and adore him

>Whining Baldy has interviewed the Gaynigro 2 dev
>The video is going to be uploaded any day now
What are your expectetions?

>>447909054
I expect a cringe fest personally.

Any WAD recommendations to try GZDoomVR?

>>447909451
My house

I just woke up but I'm not seeing any Index 2 news???

>>447914379
Go back to sleep and wake up in 2 weeks

Steam VR 2.0 is just an half assed port of steamdeck ui as vr overlay. You still even get steamdeck button prompts like R1 L1, some vr functionality is missing like exit vr game, exit vr, shortcut to game controller bindings or game specific video settings missing, or hidden somewhere I cant find, vr settings stick oit like sore thumb graphics wise.

But you can easily use steam chat/calls in it and keyboard finally has language options, but no control key still so you cant ctrl+c ctlr+v still. Oh and keyboard eats inputs if you type too fast

Its all so tiresome

Ended up buying knuckles controllers and a quest 2

>>447915101
Weird combo but okay for a vive upgrade

>>447915101
You forgot dongles

>>447915451
Oh right yeah unless you plan on having your vive still plugged in to act as the pairing for the controller you'll need special dongles

>>447915101
>wasting money on knuckles and vivetracker instead of just using Q2 and investing in a better GPU

>>447915532
Thatlls be another 50 bucks or so https://tundra-labs.com/products/steamvr-dongle

>>447915586
Also this; the Q2 controllers are actually really good

>>447915627
NTA but I would miss the finger tracking if I update, as scuffed as it can be sometimes.

>>447915627
Not REALLY good. But they are fine.
Losing tracking from occlusion when you two hand the pistols is very obnoxious and pisses me off a lot in games where you can't just hold grip to "glue" your second hand.
Have to hold it weirdly to work around it.

But it's mostly dev issue honestly, retards at valve and vertigo 2 nigger didn't get it right, but pavlov and itr did.

>>447915972
>dev issue
yeah, a headset dev issue

>>447915627
They're ok. A lot of occlusion issues and I've had a lot of stick drift issues

>>447916268
Technically, it's both, but not coping with the issues of the most popular headset on the market signifies simple incompetence from a game developer.

>>447914863
Steam VR 2.0? They had an update?

>>447914505
Go back to sleep and never wake up.

>>447916480
Stick drift on Q2 controllers is usually fixable by cleaning it out with some electrical contact cleaner.

>>447916526
Not from my experience, it may be a temporary fix but eventually it gets to the point where it makes no difference

>>447916710
Damn. Might be possible to do a thumbstick replacement if you can find the part name on aliexpress

>>447916710
When it stops helping, a replacement potentiometer is $2 on aliexpress.

>>447916762
>>447916784
I've done this multiple times. All I'm saying is the problems do exist and I would not call the controllers "really good"

>>447916950
Nobody denies the problem, just saying it's easily fixable.
And it's not like index controllers are any better in that regard (if not worse).

>>447916950
I would be interested to know how easy the soldering is; because I've done the index controller myself and it is a pain.

>>447917035
No soldering, just a bit of a pain to dismantle

>>447900832
>Is it worth trying yet?
yeah

>>447917035
No soldering required. A couple of screws plus a FFC cable.

>>447917101
Easier than index.

How is stick drift not a solved issue yet? it only seems to be getting worse with every new controller

>>447917501
A hall-sensor potentiometer costs $2 more so no controller will ever have one

>>447917501
It has been a solved problem for 25 years.
You the answer to that question.

You know*

>>447917574
I wonder how much money overall the retards at valve lost RMA'ing all those controllers just to save those $2.
Early batches had ~100% RMA rate.

>>447917884
In their defense; the dev-kit knuckles they had worked just fine, the sticks lasted years on those. Smaller sample size but I'm inclined to believe it. But when they scaled up the thumbsticks on those were garbage and died within 3 months. Nowadays a new index controller is as good as the dev-kit and the thumbsticks last years again.

The story I highly suspect and tell people is that valve got chinked by the manufacturer and they went with a 2 cent cheaper thumbstick supplier rather than the one their dev kits used.

>>447918002
>The story I highly suspect and tell people is that valve got chinked by the manufacturer and they went with a 2 cent cheaper thumbstick supplier rather than the one their dev kits used.
Ass pull guess, but I'd assume that some [thumbstick module factory] that was the most popular one around just dropped the quality without a warning. It's most unusual how until ~2015, controllers were lasting forever, and then suddenly every single big vidya company (except for xbawks, i think?) got sudden thumbstick issues.

I would unironically pay $10 just for hall sensor controller if both versions were available for purchase.
This penny pinching on expensive products is so fucking retarded.
Reminds me of cunts at intel putting thermal toothpaste under the IHS instead of soldering it just to save 60 cents on $1800 CPU's and screwing the thermals in the process. Made my boycott intel. Still boycotting it to this day.
Never forgive disrespect.

>>447918297
>except for xbawks
Nah, everyone uses exactly the same potentiometers from ALPS.

>>447918549
Penny pinching saves the company millions of dollars over the products lifetime. It will not change soon.
And they can't just "raise the price" since the price is one of the first things they set.
The Xbox 360 controller has sold like 150 million units. Saving 10 cents per controller is million dollars of profit.
Same goes for the Intel CPU etc.

>>447919265
There is normal saving money and there is stealing money by degrading the user experience.
It's a spit in the face of the customer. Blatant disrespect.
It's especially outrageous when the product is expensive or targets the premium market.

I want to kill every kike who values immediate profits over customer satisfaction. Literal cancer demons. Plague.

>>447919974
Would you pay millions of dollars so the controller you make breaks in 4 years instead of 2 years?

>>447921042
Would I pay 101% instead of 100% to make the reliability of my product twice as good?
Yes.

The immoral goblins who say "No" are what got us to the market full of products which function correctly in the warranty period and disintegrate into dust the day after.

>>447915586
Already got a 4070 a little while back, just looking to try out the knuckles as I've always wanted to. Then I started seeing the difference between quest 2 and vive with screen door and thought fuck it

>>447922226
>4070 for vr
My condolences.

>>447922295
what's your pick?

>>447922701
The whole ada generation is fucked, except for the 4090. They cucked the memory bus too much, it hurts badly on extremely high rendering res, which is vr all about basically.
4080 at the very least, I added a bit extra and just got 4090.
Not cheap.

>>447923108
I got a 4090 too but I've barely played VR ever since and other than that if I play any games at all it's Diablo 2 (non gaysurrected) as well as HOMM3 and Dragon's Dogma. I'm not sure what else to use this piece of shit scam card for. Index 2 better come out fucking now so I can start enjoying VR again.

>>447923316
Resurrected was good

>>447918297
Keep having people tell me there's nothing wrong with dualshock 4 but the amount of controllers I burned through is retarded. Meanwhile, my 360 controller has zero drift or stuck buttons after being stuffed into boxes and collecting dust, having soda spilled on it, and experiencing a large number of impacts.

>>447923370
Cap.

>>447916525
You need to sign into steam client beta and steamvr beta

>>447925196
Oh so you didn't even play it?

Pros: Looks great
Plays like the original
Quality of life fixes/updates like shared stash and a few other things

Cons:
Blizzard cuckware. The game autodeactivates itself if you play it without their bnet client for too long (I played mods on it and since that bypasses the client...)

There honestly aren't even any more cons, it's a good remake. If it was free from blizzard cuckware it'd be pretty much perfect. Consider pirating it and playing singleplayer.

need nyagger avatar

>>447925386
Stop lying faggot shill. It doesn't look great and it doesn't play like the original. QOL fixes are all trash.

>>447926098
I've been playing D2 longer than you've been alive most likely and I can tell you the remaster is decent.

>>447926167
No you haven't. Stop larping blizzdrone.

>>447915101
>Buying Fresnel lenses in 2023
You could have gotten pico 4 for the same price

>>447922295
my 3070 performed pretty well in the games I was playing in VR

I only experimented with the early headsets where the resolution was absolute trash. What's it like nowadays? I know the official spec resolutions don't directly translate to looking at a normal monitor, but how would you say the experience Feels relative to looking at a monitor?

Like if youre looking through a quest 2 is it roughly similar to viewing 1080p? What about pico4/G2 or Varjo Aero?

>>447927421
>feels relative to looking at monitor
no*
>to viewing 1080p display
no*
>what's it like nowadays
hundred times better than first gen. First gen was on the verge of being unusable, current gen headsets are already very decent, you can easily read bigger font, yadda yadda. When I'm working on something in Unity, I rarely take headset off, it's easy to see font in a preview and it's more than usable with display scaled to an equivalent of 70" seen from 1.5m away.


*i guess it somewhat depends on what headset you use. Index is kinda low tier at this point, any higher resolution headset will obviously be vastly superior in terms of image clarity as long as optics can keep up.

>>447915627
impossible to beat high level beat saber maps

>>447927421
I only notice screen door on q2 if I squint and stare directly into a bright, white light.
Y48NTR

Talk me out of preordering Quest 3 tomorrow.

>>447932432
Pico 4 is cheaper and better.

>>447932432
I am also interested in the quest 3, but I also wanna hear some honest reviews about it

>>447927421

the main thing to consider is ppd, lenses, and display

quest2, g2, index, vives etc..are fresnel lenses so everything will seem blurry unless you look at a tiny spot in the middle (sweet spot), they are horrible for reading text and generally an example of the 'old' VR headsets. but you can notice some differences between for example a vive pro 2 and quest 2 because the quest 2 is single display so you lose a ton of pixel density due to how ipd works. the higher resolution you go you also get less screen door effect, but for the most part you wont notice this unless you go to headsets that releases before the index.

for the most part no one would suggest buying a fresnel lens headset in 2023. the main offerings are all going to pancake lenses which are smaller and have a lot more clearness (but not fully edge to edge yet), examples include the pico 4, quest pro, vive XR elite...

quest 2 vs quest pro vs pico 4 are a good comparison because quest 2 has roughly the same resolution as the quest pro but the quest pro has dual displays so the pixel density is way higher. this also means it actually looks more clear than the pico 4 which has a higher resolution because pico 4 has a single screen. pico 4 and quest pro both have pancake lenses so they are both very clear, but quest pro has a patented anti-glare coating on the lenses which make them by far the best lenses out of any headset right now.

for those who care, quest 3 (unreleases) is also single screen so while it has a higher resolution than quest pro it will look worse.

then you have the really niche headsets like the varjo aeros and the pimax crystal which uses aspheric lenses, these are extremely clear but they are physically larger than pancake lenses and can never achieve the same form factor. if you were on the quest for the best looking headset for simulations youd probably end up at these headsets.

fresnelcope is about to die forever vros
I can TASTE it!

I politely decline to refer to all trans women as "she". I will call them he, or not use pronouns, but I am not willing to call them "she", because, in my mind, they are men. I hope you can respect my decision and my bodily autonomy.

>>447933993
that's cool but who asked

>>447933993
Yes but have you played outer wilds?

>>447926745
It's meh. I've had 3070 before. You are not maxing out Q2 even at 72hz with it.
But it's very close to 4070 overall. Not even 20% worse.
3070ti is like within 10% at high res.

And nvidia asks $600 for 4070 in 2023. 3080 was $700 in 2020 and it shits on it. Yeah, they can fuck off.

>>447933296
Pico 4 has 2 screens you dingus

>>447933296
> this also means it actually looks more clear than the pico 4
Stopped reading here. You have tried neither headsets.
Fuck off, pajeet.

>>447934223
no it doesnt, its chink lies. i took one apart and confirmed.

you wont find a single english tear down video that shows dual screens.

>>447933296
>quest2, g2, index, vives etc..are fresnel lenses so everything will seem blurry unless you look at a tiny spot in the middle (sweet spot)
again, sweet spot is not a fresnel-lens specific thing. pancake lenses have sweet spots too.

>>447934440
fucking our own local toilet chan is suffering because chinks put 2 different displays from different manufacturers in his copy

>>447934648
NTA but he has pico 4 pro i think instead of regular pico so maybe that one has 2 screens?

Don't listen to the schizo who shills qpro. The whole post is full of nonsense.
I would say it's pampers, but it's a bit too lucid.

>>447934648
pretty sure its just his eyes being bad. its what he gets for looking at so much porn with only one eye open

>>447934953
It's not just him
I shill it too
viva la pro questo etc.

>>447934771
pico 4 pro just adds cameras around the lenses, everything else is exactly the same

>>447934953
QPro is awfull, no full isolation without buying a special faceplate, all weight is still in the front, bad head strap, bad software, zucciness, AWFULL microphone, worse than fucking OG Vive. I can barely understand people who switched to QPro from index.

>>447935229
full isolation is a meme
I don't wanna go back to tard goggles
the comfort is bad that I will give you

anyone who wants full isolation from a headset is just a nerd. i have so many girls come up and talk to me while gaming that i cant be fully isolated, i need to know whats going on at all times. so for me the quest pro ™ is perfect

>>447935380
>I love seeing real world and sun shine into my eyes when I'm playing a game

>>447935407
This anon makes a good point. What if a bunch of sexy naked women (or men, I don't judge) walked in to your room IRL and you didn't notice them because you were too isolated with your light blocking headset so they left.

>>447935779
stop fueling my paranoia

>>447935569
you don't consciously process the stuff in your periphery but you can tell that it changes when you move your head unlike the deep blackness in an isolated headset so it feels like free FoV
I completely understand your reticence as I once scoffed as you did but it won't stop me from calling you a foolish nitwitted RETARD
also I think it helps my balance and playspace awareness

i think these retards never actually used a quest pro. if you tip the headset down so it touches your nose, you get a huge FOV and almost no light bleed with the included side blockers. or you can wear it "up" and horizontally and get a more MR view.
you can wear it these ways because the lenses are so good, so anyway you look at it, it will be clear.

so what data are the chinks harvesting from the pico users? without eye tracking they cant see me fapping right?

>>447936565
anon at the pico factory they print out the grainy black and white video frames of your little meat stick from the tracking cameras and hang them up on the walls to laugh at
sometimes paired with that panda man chink meme laughing

>>447936565
You don't even need a pico account. You can completely block it's access to the internet it'll just work

>>447936895
and..? the 2nd it connects to internet its gonna send your information to some proxy site (likely showing as a non-chinese IP) then to the chinks

>>447937142
Anon you can block it from ANY internet location.

>>447934953
The most unhinged zuck shill is pampers.

>>447937201
whats the point of a standalone headset with no internet connection?

>>447937491
Anon... The wireless only needs to connect to your router, the router can then forward traffic to your PC so you get your headset working, and then block it from going to the internet.
Your router isn't the internet, it just forwards stuff.

>>447937295
you haven't even begun to witness the full extent of my unhinged shilling

>>447937628
how do you update VD/streaming assistant on the headset without internet

>>447938548
Let it out for a second...

>>447938592

>connect to internet
>headset instantly dumps its backlog of biometric data that it was saving

chinks win again...

>>447938548
imagine unironically iupdating botnet headsets
can't be me

>>447938548
you copy a .apk over lan/usb connection, which you then just install freely

>>447938873
where can i get an apk of virtual desktop for each update?

>>447939227
to buy virtual desktop you need a pico account anyway, but also who cares, use ALVR or Pico Streamer

>>447939227
on the vd github

i really dont get all of you /g/tard paranoid schizophrenics. if you ever went on the internet ur analytic data is being sold. who cares, nobody is tracking YOU down everyones shitty data is being sold!!! why do you care so much when it makes no difference???

>>447939830
There's a long conversation but it basically boils down to eventually google giving you a racism score (For advertising purposes) that they sell to employers.

>>447939931
So they can show me racist ads that are more relevant to my interests? Sign me the fuck up mang

>>447939986
If only; main problem with this data is it stays around forever and you'll find it was traded around to hundreds of data broker companies and will get eventually exposed to something you care about. Internet schizo willing to spend a little to pay, employers doing background checks on employees, law enforcement deciding that today is the day to auto-enforce their new anti-hate crime law or whatever the fuck

do yall really think the chinks are sharing your data with china? chinks use your data to figure out the best way to influence western society, its how they create tiktok trends and sissy porn to try to feminize white men because they think the can kill the niggers easier if they become the leaders of western society

>>447940460
I'll assume you meant
>do you think they're sharing it outside of china?
For money? I think they would.

you'll get datamined one way or another, you can make it harder, but you WILL slip and they WILL connect your ghost accounts to your IRL identity.

>>447940460
wait so the reason we have so many trannies and interracial couples is because of the chinks?

>>447940917
And russia. And trump.

>>447940917
have you been living under a rock? do you know what tik tok is?

>>447941004
>>447940917
not vr related, but have u ever thought that it was just profit maximizing instead of whatever other conspiracy you have dreamed up. the motivating factor for 99% of the bad things in the world is greed. they probably just incentivize profitable videos and short video content to peddle as much wares as possible.
i hate people being sinophobic against china when its basically every company all over the world doing the same stuff like with shrinkflation (selling less for more) because people depend on it now.

no it's lizard men from the VR moon

>>447941251
literally 90% of my tiktok feed is tranny porn and woman saying they love black men so i think youre wrong goyim. its clear they have an agenda.

>>447941534
It feeds you more of what you view, anon. It uses all that advanced tracking we've been talking about to get a initial read too.

>>447941251
then tik tok in china itself wouldn't be the opposite of what we get

>>447941658
>It feeds you more of what you view,

but if they decide what you view in the first place how does this make any sense? theres no dislike button on tiktok

>>447940150
I know, I was joking around. Data collection and data trade is very concerning and should be avoided.
"This one company does it" does not mean it's okay for other companies to also do it, and you would be surprised how little ad companies know about you if you run troll extensions like AdNauseam.

tiktok
tick?
tock?
it's the sound of two weeks finally ending

>>447941469
there is no moon

>>447941251
You're delusional. Many of those bad things are provably caused by things other than greed and governments are constantly doing things that lose money.
>sinophobic
You're an actual chinese shill aren't you? There's no such thing as "phobic" when your fascist-style government is fighting with other countries, openly trying to get rid of democracy, and declaring it wants to attack Taiwan.

You're trying to babble about insignificant details like shrinkflation to distract from the chinese police state throwing people in jail just to terrorize them into obedience, like all those arrests of tech entrepreneurs.

>>447938740
Chinks only want to sell me stuff or scam me. I would rather be data mined by chinks than glowing Western corpos who share info with people that actually have the authority to ruin my life.

>>447853081
my wheel has been cutting out on me. I think the power cable is fucked. (replacement may be in time) when it goes out it doesn't pause the game and just locks at whatever input was last recived. not feeling good about this one.

Phasmophobia with randoms is really fun. They're always amazed by the VR IK. Surprisingly a big social game with almost everyone using voice chat and a lot of chicks playing too.

I had to choose up.

It's Tuesday! Time for Pavlov Search and Destroy!
At 1800 UTC (1900 UTC+1)
Join the community server: "Gem Server!"

Password is 7645
Headpat people when you join anyway
Maps are on mod.io now! The easiest way to download them will be let the game download them.

frens

>>447927421
Haven't done the math on this but a G2's pixel size are like you're kinda close to a 480p monitor. When using desktop I could stretch a 1080p display over the headsets full FOV and it looked like there wasn't much detail lost.

I never thought the resolution wasn't good enough for games. I was really pleased with it and much more disatisfied with FOV and black levels. It's not good enough for desktop though.

>>447932432
preorder deckard instead

>>447946814
kys

>>447946586
Today is Pavlov day!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0laApFpjVs
deckard soon??????????

THIS WEEK THIS WEEK THIS WEEK THIS WEEK

>>447828726
GOOD TIMES

>>447954661
tomorrow, actually

>>447954414
kinda hope they dont reveal it yet, I want more time to save money

>>447830323
its just a soulless mmorpg
id rather have runescape up on my overlay while in vrchat. no even worse id rather go back to playing Black Desert Online. Ashes of Creation my beloved will save the mmorpg genre!
>>447831438
VD niggers need to rope.
>>447865393
royalee with cheeeese
>>447939227
christ please just use the streaming assistant if you have a pico. you do not need VD

>>447955173
I wanna take the rest of the week off but I don't think I can.

>CS2 appeared next to native VR titles on the SteamVR 2.0 promo images
CS2VR is really happening, huh?
It all makes sense now
RIP in piss Pavlov i guess

>>447941534
when a mf admits he watches A LOT of trans porn. you know the tiktok algorithm just feeds you what you like watching?

>>447959231
Stop giving me hope

>>447959231
huh? where?

>>447943623
i think you're overdramatizing it a bit, in the end it's another country with a vastly different culture much like japan. people idolize japan and yet it also has a lot of the same things people accuse china of like their crazy successful convictions etc. it's also not like laws are a bad thing, would you want the law that made using gutter oil punishable to be removed just because the big bad chinese state made them? that's silly, and you're silly for for painting them in such a broad stroke just because they're different to you.

anyways i'm rather excited about the deckard tomorrow yayyy!!

>>447960361
fuck off chink

>>447961882

'ick on 'eckard

go back to /g/

would rather have /g/ than /trash/ here
vr videogames can't sustain the thread

>>447865393
hey!!

movie starting soon! in about 10 minutes!!

tonight we're watching Pulp Fiction!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110912/

You won't know the facts until you've seen the fiction.

https://vrch.at/jp03ehfv or join off Lumadurin !

>>447959231
Gimme my grenades back gabe

>>447963801
forgot the gyate... shameful...

>>447964032

>>447945502
wait does VR have crossplay with non-vr? that sounds kind of cool

When they announced the Index was it available for purchase straight way? I'm buying the Index 2 straight away, not even waiting for reviews. As long as they're not using any retarded gimmicks nobody with a brain wants like inside out tracking and wireless at least.

>>447966178

index 1 was out of stock for months after it went live, it was impossible to buy. so yeah i agree if you have the option to buy index 2 right away you should, you can always return later.

index 2 is confirmed wired + basestation headset

>>447966862
>index 2 is confirmed wired + basestation headset
Confirmed by who, retarded niggerspacer?

>>447967179
God spoke to me in a dream.

Valve has closed their lighthouse production factory. It's unlikely that they are going to use the tech again.

>>447967257
It's nice that you've started taking your meds again, pampers, but please don't post retarded shit like that.

>>447966862
>index 1 was out of stock for months after it went live

Ok but I'm assuming it's because the market back then was a meme, whereas now you have all of these dog water headsets for normalfaggot retards (pimax, pico, faceshit, etc) and maybe the demand wont be as high.

>>447966178
>like inside out tracking
Index is inside out btw. Just so you know.

>>447967567
valve doesnt have a lighthouse production factory, all lighthouses were made by HTC's in-house production

it wouldnt make a whole lot of sense for valve to have a lighthouse factory considering lighthouses existed before the index.

>>447966862
>index 2 is confirmed wired + basestation headset
That would be a literal suicide. Why would you get it over Bigscreen

>>447946814
lys ^-^

>>447967970
>valve doesnt have a lighthouse production factory, all lighthouses were made by HTC's in-house production
Can you just stop with your retarded lies?

>>447959231
Source? I want this to be true. Pavlov sucks so much.

https://x.com/Tundra_Labs/status/1706699434304635257?s=20

2 lighthouses for 200 bucks!

Also in the bundle, for free you get:
- high quality 5 meter hdmi cable
- good sounding in ear earbuds
- 2 awkwardly shaped vive trackers
- extremely bulky 2 in 1 tracker dongle, with built in oled displays for some reason

>>447968027
because the bsb is literally a 3d printed case held together by hot-glue...has no audio, no eye/face tracking, no passthrough, etc etc. and costs the same as qpro which is actually designed by people who understand design and engineering

>>447959231
Can't wait to show off my $1000 knife in CSVR and laugh at all the poorfags

>>447968726
The BSB's case is molded plastic. Everything is screwed together or in the case of the facial interface, magnetized. At least try to make more convincing lies.

>>447968701
first gen lighthouses though. i mean, it's an absoute steal, it's just that max limit of 2 lighthouses is something to keep in mind

>>447968701
I get confused between these gen 1 and gen 2 stations.

>>447967567
>>447968178
Lighthouse tech is dead. Rip.

>>447969018
you forgot to respond to the rest of the post my friend

>>447969141
everything works with 1.0 gen lighthouses.

1.0 devices (og vive, og vive wands, and og vive tracker) don't work with 2.0 lighthouses.

you can have 1 or 2 1.0 lighthouses, you cannot mix and match 1.0 and 2.0 lighthouses.

In most situations 2 1.0 gen lighthouses works perfectly. I still have mine since 2017 and use them with index controllers and Pro 2.

>and costs the same as qpro which is actually designed by people who understand design and engineering
>designed by people who understand design and engineering
>qpro

>>447969238
Cameras on the devices is a superior solution.

>>447946586
GG

This was one of the best Pavlov sessions I had in a long time. GG gamers.

>>447969619
No. It's just cheaper and has easier setup.

>>447969238
Fuck. If the Deckard is inside out and invalidates my lighthouses it's a hard pass from me. Hopefully this is just a continuation of their partnership with HTC.

>>447969619
no, the superior solution is to have both outside-in and inside-out tracking, like the qpro controllers.

the qpro is the pinnacle of design and engineering

>>447969619
>>447969727
If controllers are also self tracked then it's fine, I will miss playing in the dark after lighthouse is retired.

Also I don't think HTC will stop producing lighthouses any soon, they are heavily invested in business and Vive Mars video production solution, which uses trackers to track cameras and objects.

when HTC released the vive focus 3 they made their own branch of open space calibrator so people could use basestations while using the focus 3.

they know the demand is there for a solution that does both.

Have any details on the deckard been officially announced?
Has the headset even been announced to exist?

Where do I find futa bottoms? Most of you want to bottom as women for some reason.

>>447970152
lol

>>447970162
thats because the chinks have sissified western men so much that they dont even like to have dicks, they want to worship dicks on other people. you can thank the pico owners for that.

>>447969776
>it's a hard pass from me
It will take you 20 minutes to rationalize the purchase.

>>447969727
It's outright superior if all tracked devices have their own cameras and can confirm each other's positions.

>>447970152
THISWEEKTHISWEEKTHISWEEK

Remember steam vr sale? Yeah, it was funny.

>>447970213
I didn't think so

Why are people having such an in-depth argument over the features of a headset that we don't know specifics on, and don't even know if it actually exists?
You guys are really crazy sometimes.

>>447971141
cute newfag

>install steam VR beta
>supposedly version 2.0.1
>there are no changes at all

>>447971141
A new headset and new game from Valve are what we need to save PCVR. Otherwise it will fade away. Two more weeks, trust the plan.

>>447971289
you didn't install Steam client beta.

>>447971305
ITSHAPPENING

>>447971305
we dont need just a new game, we need a game like CSGO or DOTA that can get people playing for a long time to come. half life alyx is great and all but an 8 hour campaign is not going to keep people with VR.

is quest 3 better than quest pro or pico 4 pro? idk what headset to get to upgrade from index

>>447971973
VRchat is already that 'game', unfortunately. Actual VR games are inherently too high effort to have CS or DOTA appeal.

>>447959231
I kinda hope it's not CS2VR. We already have outlets for multiplayer PvP shooters. Pavlov already does most of the CS formula and I can't imagine Valve doing anything but simplifying much of the fun out of it to make it accessible and competitive.
Would there even be much of a playerbase for the matchmaking? PCVR is in decline and I don't see them throwing flat and VR together outside of maybe custom modes. Stuff like surf and zombie escape would be fun whether it's mixed or not.
I'm not convinced that the matchmaking-based hypersweaty pixel perfect precision of CSGO is going to be the long term draw that PCVR needs.

VR wont be maintsream until
1. headsets have an easy way to charge and non of this ambiguity like the q2 has where you need specific motherboards or power injectors to charge off a PC while playing
2. controllers dont require you to grip them at all time
3. full passthrough or clear displays so that people can see whats around them quickly. isolation is the leading cause of people not wanting to use headsets around their family/friends.
4. not dumb looking (IE, no BSB or pimax styled headsets)
5. more 6DOF only games that can be played with MKB and a headset
6. full body options that dont require jank setups
7. weigh less than 500grams

Quest 3 preview from Japanese website.

https://www.4gamer.net/games/436/G043602/20230926046/

Apparently you'll get Asgard's Wrath 2 for free when you buy a Q3 and I don't know how accurate this is, but the guy says the FOV is 110.

>>447972640
if youre playing standalone the q3 or pico 5 is your best option, if youre playing PCVR the qpro or pico 5 is your best option.

the q3 is single screen LCD so it will look far worse than the qpro, but the pico 5 should look better than both based on specs

>>447972676
While I agree that even if they actually made CS2VR it probably wouldn't be worth playing, the small chance that it actually works out is alluring.

>>447972757
this is a big step forward but wont lead to mainstream long term adoption

>>447973654
how about you long term adopt my dick in your mouth

>>447973871
youre stinky

>>447973914
we can just put soap in your mouth and you can wash me that way

>>447972640
I strongly believe mixed reality is gonna be a huge thing in the future so personally I'd go with the Quest 3. Software is gonna be most important and I think Meta nails that best.

>>447974074
hope you see the error in your ways. allah does not allow your kind into his kingdom. i hope you make a change in your life choices. bismallah anon

DECKARD BROS!
IT'S HECKING CONFIRMED!

>>447972757
>1. headsets have an easy way to charge and non of this ambiguity like the q2 has where you need specific motherboards or power injectors to charge off a PC while playing
What the fuck are you talking about
>2. controllers dont require you to grip them at all time
Knuckles already solved this
>3. full passthrough or clear displays so that people can see whats around them quickly. isolation is the leading cause of people not wanting to use headsets around their family/friends
Pico4/Qpro already solved this
>4. not dumb looking (IE, no BSB or pimax styled headsets)
Q2 is unironically one of the most stylish headsets ever made, even if its a brick.
>5. more 6DOF only games that can be played with MKB and a headset
whats the point of immersion if you need to break it with using a keyboard and mouse? only steering wheels and flightsticks get the pass
>6. full body options that dont require jank setups
like? i feel like vive trackers are pretty decent already
>7. weigh less than 500grams
500-ish grams is ok, its all about weight balance - quest 3 will be more comfortable than quest 2 just because its smaller despite having the same weight

Raised my payment limits on the chance that it's actually revealed tomorrow.

>>447974139
ngl passthrough porn is already really good, it will probably be great on the q3.

>>447972676
I hope it is. Pavlov is shit and dave is a retard. If CSVR brings even .1% of CSs player base that's 18000 players.

>>447974331
for point 1, unless you have a "gaming" motherboard and a good usb c to usb c cable, most standalone headsets cant be charged at all while playing pcvr. i think the vive XRE is one of the few that can be. the others need power injectors of some sort

>>447974501
>inb4 CSVR comes out and everyone who has spent 5 years saying this still won't play it because they don't play VR games

the only way CSVR takes off is if the made good skins that can only be acquired via VR-crates or something but can be sold to non-VR people.

>>447975029
The Alyx badge already makes flatlets seethe.

>>447974217
slam pig peppa my beloved

>>447974646
the majority of pavlov players will just go to csvr. it's a win win

>>447975756
Only if it's better than Pavlov and there's a significant chance it won't be.

>>447975885
lol

>>447975885
Working voice chat alone would make it better than pavlov.
Add proper matchmaking and pavlov is deleted from the face of earth.

>>447974501
I seriously doubt that 18k weekly will happen after the launch period. I don't have recent data but that might even exceed VRChat for regular PCVR users if their old 30% number is still remotely relevant.
Half Life Alyx managed to hit 42k in the first week and still had over 1k for the next year which is pretty good for a 8 hour game that only Index users got for free.
If CS2VR is free for everyone it could match that number. How many stick around is another question but PCVR is doing so poorly that even if 1/10 keep playing weekly that's more than any other non-vrchat game.

>>447976061
>>447975974
Enjoy:
>gun hand
>weapon menu
>reload and weapon switch animations
>trigger to throw grenades
>trigger to plant and defuse
>crosshair
>inability to fire if your hand isn't in the forward facing hipfire position

>>447977110
Half of the shit you wrote is simply retarded.
It's not going to be worse than alyx at the very least.
Alyx gun mechanics only need to be tweaked a little bit to be good.

>Quest 3 will have 110 degree FOV
APOLOGIZE

>>447977496
I'm almost certain if they did it, they'd put shit like that in to make it 'competitive' enough. I forgot to even mention cone fire and movement inaccuracy.

>>447976061
None of the things I enjoy in Pavlov would be improved by competitive matchmaking.

>>447977852
I miss jailbreak so bad fellow pavlov bro

nobody else understands, dave fucking killed this game over console plebs

>>447977852
Shitting on retards in pugs is a hobby of losers.
It's a lot more interesting to break strong opponents.

Ahh, I just remembered it's valve we are talking about, we will have cheater on the second week of release.
All the AI detection they have would be completely useless, they would need to start from scratch.

But back to the main topic, unless there is a competitive matchmaking the game is just run and gun. And that's braindead too.

I doubt it would have enough players for competitive matchmaking in the first place. It would have to be the most successful multiplayer VR game of all time by far.

>>447974217
I
AM
GOING
INSAAAAAAAAAANE

>>447978428
I like shitty 'unbalanced' maps. I like playing with and against the same people. I like more than 5v5. I like hearing the enemy team. I like nobody raging over ranks. I like janky zombie modes. I like charging the beaches on DDay. I want to surf_. I want to func_vehicle.
Fuck matchmaking.

>>447978608
I've played competitive in csgo when it first released. It wasn't a very popular game back then.

The most likely first step into CSVR would simply be the ability to play with mouse and keyboard on a headset. It renders properly in 3D without visual errors, the HUD is suitable for VR, but there's no hand or head tracking. I'd probably try that.

>>447978867
>I like playing with and against the same people.
You would be playing against the same people if they were to release competitive matchmaking.
>I like hearing the enemy team.
No reason not to add it.
>I like nobody raging over ranks.
Skill issue. Doesn't happen on top ranks.
>func_vehicle
That is true. rip.

>>447977110
>trigger to throw grenades

Please, fucking god. After playing HL2 VR, I never want to go back to trying to awkwardly shotput a grenade only to have it land 3 feet away from me.

>>447979178
Are you the same retard who always shills that shit on /v/?
Can you fuck off?

when will we get a game like the world?

I just hope Deckard has face/eye tracking, and a mic as good as the beyond
I'd really like face tracking to be commonplace soon, since seeing people's avatars match their IRL expression adds so much more to the social aspect of VR
I appreciate it when someone puts in the effort to change their expression for my benefit, so I try and do the same for everyone else - with face tracking I won't have to though!

>>447978867
legend
I'm here to enjoy some fun games with cool dudes, give me a casual lobby playing some silly game modes over ranked 5's
I quit that shit years ago since it can turn even the mellowest guy into a seething maniac
I feel the main issue is when you play ranked your main motivation is to see your number go up, and have others see it too - that doesn't leave much room for any other motivation - like enjoyment

>>447979448
I'm not saying it's what I want, but a logical step. There's no other game that's done that, yet.

>>447980434
if you record yourself playing vidya you'd see the same thing

>>447979336
I think a compromise would be best. You have to make a throwing gesture, but it will actually follow a path based on where you're looking. I've never played a single game that actually has throwing that works predictably.

>>447945359
I've been having occasional issues with my wheel for a while now, but it's a lot more than just the power cable. I'm tempted to just go ahead and upgrade to a direct drive wheel since those have been getting cheaper.

>>447980386
I think it'd be neat to be able to use VR in every game, "headphones for your eyes" I've heard it called before
being able to play something and see the scale and depth of the world you're in would be radical

>>447980375
>I feel the main issue is when you play ranked your main motivation is to see your number go up, and have others see it too - that doesn't leave much room for any other motivation - like enjoyment
Just take the psycho-pill. It's so enjoyable to crush enemy team hopes and dreams. You can also bm for the extra spice.
There is nothing more enjoyable when they try their best and you still win.
You can only experience that thrill in comp 5v5.

>>447981162
not for me, it's poison for my soul

>>447980897
If you want to aim with a mouse when you have 6-degrees-of-freedom controllers available, you are simply retarded. Sorry.

>>447981354
Denying your warrior's spirit it's not going to do you any good.
It's in your genes, you know it.

Worth it bros? Do I need to play the first one first?

>>447970152
No and don't believe whatever the shills for that retard Bradly say.

>>447981702
I mean, it's alright.

>>447981981
please anon you've got to beLIEVE

>>447827643
damn straight we are nigger
headset's cheaper than a fursuit

>>447982186
Why are you replying to someone who sounds like he doesn't believe in wearing adult underwear?

>>447963801
Thanks that was great fun!
I've seen it 2-3 times before but it was still a blast!

>>447982358
do not attempt to confuse me I am losing my mind

>>447981702
I thought the first game was kinda boring, if the second game is supposedly better I wouldn't bother playing the first.

>>447959231
Valve showed off Spiderman and Overcooked 2 next to the native games as well. Honestly I'm pretty hyped for Spiderman as it seems like a good fit for VR.

>>447981358
the fuck did I say anything about aiming with a mouse?
I was thinking of every genre other than FPS - I'd love to try replaying some 3rd-person platformers or a city-builder or RTS or RPG but in VR
sure, pointing with your controllers might feel more intuitive but sometimes I like giving my arms a rest

>>447981542
my genes usually have me focused on other things, anon~

>>447983036
lol

>>447981162
people try their best in public games all the time

>>447983239
confirmed fat

>>447983491
lol

>>447983556
man, word gets round the office, doesn't it?

>>447981358
It's a simple expansion of what VR can be used for, not to replace VRFPS. It would be a step forward if a major developer were to implement a VR mode that is nothing more than using the headset instead of a monitor and may encourage others to follow. It's something developers may be willing to do that isn't anywhere near as much of an investment or risk as full 6 dof games, instead of VR being something they basically don't want to touch at all.

>>447983753
do you not know what a tryhard is?
do you actually play video games?

>>447806242 (OP)
This Friday, September 29th @ 11:30pm EST we will be watching the final /vg/ League 21 /vrg/ soccer friendly versus /twg/ (Total War General). We'll still be using the modified roster for this one with Deckard In 2 Weeks, Zuckerberg, and Bigscreen Bros leading the team.
After that, we'll do roster suggestions/polling probably around late October/early November when sign-ups for the official /vg/ League 21 soccer tournament starts.
Thanks for your continued support. Hopefully some RNG will land in our favor this upcoming season.

>>447963801
thank you all for coming!!
see those who can make it next week for whatever!!

>>447982524
it definitely wasnt what i was expecting, thats for sure

>>447985149

>>447985283
oh omg im sorry i forgot to unblock you

>newbie gets instablocked
rough...

>>447984712
If you think "tryharding" in random pugs can be compared to nolifers competing for imaginary points at top ranks, you've never played at the top yourself.

That tryharding always boils down to braindead run-and-gun, because
1) it's unlikely that your teammates/enemies care as much as you
2) it's unlikely they are anywhere near close to your level if you are any good
3) people join and leave all the time

>>447974217
Ever since Zucc poached animators from Astley Baker Davies they've never been able to let it go. They always time announcements during meta events to steal his thunder

>>447985805
1. I don't care
2. I don't care
3. I don't care

>>447986137

>>447894993
If there's no deckard announcement tomorrow that's silent confirmation it's going to be next year. The only reason valve would skip announcement is if they were no where near ready.

don't make me cry anon

>>447986832
First time, huh?

Running supercars vs tuned cars at the Isle of Man in Assetto Corsa tomorrow night at 8PM EDT (about 25.5 hours from now).
Car list is pic related, let me know if you have anything else you want to run.
Mods are below and the server is up if you want to test anything.
server: vrg racing
pass: tfwnodriftfu
voice chat (mumble): voice.vrg.party
mods: https://mega.nz/folder/xN4EGDiC#cvLFrD3kTpS_8pU7eNVvPw
DLC: https://mega.nz/folder/hNgHTIrb#utSeSx4mqKjcMYfwiI67sg

anyone know why my scene hierarchy would reset to nothing but camera and light?
i have a backup so im not too worried, but also what would be the correct process TOO back it up? whole project or is there a specific hierarchy file i should drop in instead

>>447980375
Eye tracking is pretty much confirmed. Doubt it will have face tracking tho, but I guess you could buy the Vive Face Tracker thingie.

>>447988472
Saving a copy of the entire project is the only way you can ensure it will work.

>>447987852
I don't get excited for things very often

>>447988472
Save backups. Or put it all under Git.
And then still back it up.

>>447989023
kk, copying it over now. my spinners read speed is fucking shite though for some reason, i wrote the entire project (~8Gb) in like 10 or so minutes to it from an SSD, but claming anywhere from 30 minutes to 2 hours (writing to an m.2 where my current copy is stored)
I have a few other place im going to save it now though...
>>447989282
im a gitlet sorry

the backup didn't work first try. going to try moving it to another folder/drive before attempting to merge with the current main project

>>447989282
How do I into Git?
t. gitlet

>>447991434
Install a git client, initialize a git repo in a folder, put your Unity project into it
Hit commit. Optionally, push it to a private repository online if you want an online backup literally for free. I think Github private repos are free and so is Gitlab.
Then commit (and push) your changes every so often, such as when you close the project for the day. That way you can literally just go back to a previous commit if you mess something up, revert the files in case something gets corrupted, and so on.

>>447989376
>>447991434
git init
git add .
git commit -m "added shit"

>>447979336
skill issue

>>447991786
Also the idea is that you work INSIDE the git folder with your project in it. Don't just do the thing where you copy the project to the git-controlled folder and push changes when you feel like it

>>447991816
>>447990798
it worked 2nd try
ill take a look, thanks

>>447991816
you forgot to add a .gitignore file tailored for unity, or the project will save all the miniscule changes in the autogenerated files

For example this one:

https://github.com/github/gitignore/blob/main/Unity.gitignore

>>447992246
now also teach them LFS :^)

>>447981702
Yes, very much.
No.

>>447992403
Most importantly don't forget to tell them how to Git Flow and make releases and self reviewed pull requests for every major change
Setup some Github actions, Gitlab CI/CD or Azure Devops YAML Pipelines to automatically upload it after every PR merge, and add integration tests to check for clipping

>tfw PC's power supply died so I can only do standalone VR games
>tfw only quest standalone game I have is VRChat

well i downloaded meta horizon in preparation for tomorrow and it was just as bad as the videos i've seen talk about it say. as someone that started with early altspace vr, it felt like a worse version with better graphics. interactions were clunky. worlds were lacking, it was a ghost town except for kids and people that work there, the framerate of people moving was really rough at times. 1/10, it has legs now but you can't see your own

>>447988520
Source?

>>447993527
power supplies are among the most common parts to find in stock in computer stores, move your ass and you'll have a new one in an hour

what shader could i use to create a pixel effect that i could apply to "censor" an object?

>>447996832
write your own, you useless frick

>>447839920
What? It's not me, I'm 100% sure it's one of the french Canadians. The only thing I post these days are webms and talk about dirt rally.

>>447996832
Use cancerspace or bender's overlay shaders

>>447996832
Ask these

Finally got around to sand these little shits, i still might need to sand them down some more but it fixed most of the eyetracking issues, mainly winking and closed eyes spazzing out

>>447998554
what the fuck is that?

>>447998989
Toilet-chan.
GO TO BED.
NOW.

>>447999723
make me

>>447999860
That's it, I'm disconnecting your internet.

>>447998554
>>447997932
>>447997259
will try them all, initial hiccups on the first two options. i shall persevere.

>>448000885
I got it working by just putting a default capsule, sphere or cube with those shaders on a material applied to the mesh. The pixelation worked pretty well but it works best with capsules if you're going to "censor" a whole avatar. Cubes is best for "censor bars".

>>447992403
>>447992578
don't go overboard. Without that gitignore file the unity git repo will balloon in size extremely quickly, with all the crap unity generates every time you move anything in a scene.

Patched and upgraded

I hope you rike it

>>447999860
Built for BBC

>>448004371
I HATE IT

>>447900705
Starting in 10-15 minutes, you can join off Silencen or anyone else in New Cinema 1336 if you're interested.

Time for pypy dance! For those who don't know, at pypy dance we dance along with just dance style videos. It's fun, come dance!

the link:
https://vrch.at/7ez8dgud
or join on yuru

>>448010040
No thanks

>>447987852
SEASON 3 will be announced along with DECKARD.
BELIEVE!

>>448010040

what base model are these using?

>>448012382
Karin Moe Manuka head
Selestia body

>>448012382
slam pig base

2 new bigmeme text reviews for those that hate filthy 30 minute jewtube videos like me:

https://www.roadtovr.com/bigscreen-beyond-review-pc-vr-headset/
https://www.uploadvr.com/bigscreen-beyond-hardware-review/

I now personally have ~20 hours total on it too, here are some new opinions:

- comfort is massively improved with earbuds over headphones. i got the same chink ones and usbc dac the other anon linked. The impedance is super low so max volume is at like 10 in windows audio, but otherwise sounds fine. I need better foam tips to keep them in my ears though.
- fixing the top strap in place with an extra velcro cable tie helped too.
- the glare is still bad, but I've almost completely mentally filtered it out. it just feels like part of VR now. Thinking back to the first days on the index as well, it was also quite noticeable. kind of shocking how much bullshit your mind will let you put up with. FWIW i've never used a quest 2 though or other headsets with "good" antiglare, only index, reverb g2, og rift, and original quest a bit.
- the lightness of the headset is great, but the fit is still bad. both the strap is kind of uncomfortable as it sits on top of my ears, and the gasket doesn't quite fit right. Still dunno if the scan's fault or what, but I'll have to contact support and see if they'll send me a new scan I think. or I'll mold my own gasket.
- resolution is still great otherwise, in the tiny tiny 1 millimeter sweet spot where everything is clear. can read text on my 4k monitor just fine. It's not edge to edge clarity, but enough that you can read columns of text without moving your head.
- if you suspend/sleep your computer, the bigscreen gets into some bad state where it won't detect basestations until you physically disconnect the cable. annoying, but hopefully fixable in firmware.
- I still like the overall package enough that I haven't switched back to index yet, unlike the reverb g2 where I switched back after a few hours.

>>448012968
damn, that's one really good manuka, thanks anon.

>>448014717
That prob looks very fuckrd proprtion wise if you can see the whole body.
Gooks seem to think proportions don't matter

>>448015392
and they're correct
proportions don't matter if you can make them however you want and they still look good
>but I think they look good
I don't care

>>448015937
Proportions matter whether you like it or not.
This is 3d not flat illustration.

>>448016069
I would agree, if that was true
but I don't agree, so it's not true
source: I said so