/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1563

0315 is the code you niggers

I'm not really a fan of the whole "No Event Event" and think its a prime timeslot and date for an apex and pinnacle of soul counter event, a map has been worked on and outfits have been made and will be distributed.
:: The Exclusive Special Selection Event | March 22nd - 23rd ::
What is this?
This event is an an extremely exclusive event with only the best, brightest, and carefully handpicked VRG members. Invitations and instructions have been sent out to all handpicked candidates with special instructions to stay anonymous and not share any information with non selections.

If you feel left out maybe you will be considered for a future redux but the list has already been finalized.

When?
EU - Same time as the No Event Event, the exact hours have been sent out to applicable members.
NA - Same time as the No Event Event, the exact hours have been sent out to applicable members.

Thank you to the exceptional members who have already eagerly accepted the invitations and I look forward to seeing you, please remember to remain on orange.

If you received an invite please feel free to discuss it in the thread but no hintdropping in the slightest, if you are caught doing so or telling anyone who is not on the list your invitation will be immediately rescinded.

I'm not really a fan of the whole "Exclusive Special Selection Event" and think its a prime timeslot and date for lazing around and doing absolutely nothing, no map has been worked on and no outfits have been made nor will any be distributed.
:: The No Event Event | March 22nd - 23rd ::
What is this?
This event is for all of us who are tired and aching from over a month of different events every weekend. We will gather around in any map we feel like it and hang out as we normally do on the weekends!

When?
EU - Whenever you feel like it UTC (London)
NA - Whenever you feel like it but with objectively gayer people EST (New York)

Snappy Slogan!

>>469639027
Ah I forgot to add the:
No Event Event
Event Event Event
and
Exculsive Special Selection Event

to the OP. Sorrymiasen

New thread ? Aight. Since the event is pretty much over, throw me some feedback. Anything that needed work let me know. also post some pictures of the dance hours so I can put them in the world

>>469639472
I shredded all over your map while everyone was busy dancing sorry S

>>469639573
holy based fukken saved

>>469639573
Amazing photoshop work there E!

>>469639472
For the love of god elf stop turning me on

12th of April. Hats will be provided. Album can be discovered in map. there will be games.

>>469638789 (OP)
An update on /vrg/ soccer since I had a number of anons ask me when the next game is tonight!

The soccer off-season is done for now which means we won't have any more games until the official tournament starts up again around late May/Early June.
As always, we will have roster suggestions and polls before the tournament starts to decide on new players we add/which old players get the boot. This will probably be done around late April/early May.

Golf! 1300 UTC!

Real VR Fishing lobby will be attempted again later today in about 3-4 hours. Still got one copy of the game I can gift to an anon that wants to bass.

>>469640565
I'm the anon from yesterday. Tonight U, Me and pic related

It's great

>>469640638
Prepare your rod.

>>469640565
tfw too bad of a mood to fish
good luck

>>469638789 (OP)
cheers
br0oke my brikck if u kno what i meabn
anypone bfricked up rn?

>>469638789 (OP)
fishen

>>469642075
Your fish are not biting as much as you claimed, mr bond

>>469642164
damnit

If you read this kill yourself

Threadly Dirt Rally 2.0 reminder, we're currently running R5 in Argentina.
Event ends on Monday (3/18), so make sure to get your run in this weekend if you haven't finished yet.
Club link is in the OP rentry if you're interested.

If you read this you have to take a shot

fun night

>>469639870

>>469642957
we did our part

>>469645076
Good job anon

what’s going on now and who do i join on

Got a quest 3 and it's insane how often it phones home. Pi-hole blocks requests every few seconds, that's got to be affecting battery life.

>>469646207
Fishing soon! >>469640565

>>469646732
>>469640565
going to bed now because timezone but please let me know how this goes because this sounds really interesting and i may want to do this in the future

>>469646896
nighty night anon

>>469640565
can i play, i checked on steam and it says its yet to be announced so idk what 2 do

>>469648968
It's Oculus exclusive, probably won't ever come to Steam. If you want comfy fishan on PC then Catch & Release is the closest you get unfortunately. Ultimate Fishing Sim is broken garbage with jewish DLC and multiplayer that doesn't work more often than it does. Sad reality is that if you want comfy VR fishing, the one kind of game that VR is perfect for, you'll have to use Quest or Pico standalone.

first batch of this weeks eu pypy vids are up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5QDNDxlHxw&list=PLqVTVLsIotSl5vJuNHzXBBzawt2uaBxWo

more will be uploaded in the coming days as the channel is still restricted.

Fishan' starting. Asia lobby
Gone fishin'
pass 1488
If anyone wants to join but doesn't have the game I can gift one copy to any anon with Quest.

>>469651856
Coming!

>>469650298
aw darn well i hope u guys have fun then

>figure out how to move an mkv file to my quest 3
>play the video through the file player
>works alright but want something less in a panel
>do it through the quest TV thing
>works much better although I would prefer something like the netflix and amazon apps that dim the lights while you are watching instead of just being in your standard distracting hub
>realize that in neither the media viewer or the quest did I have subs
what's a good choice ideally that I can just get straight from the quest store even if I have to pay, should I just use that Bigscreen mentioned in the pastebin to run a fullscreen video directly on my PC?

>>469653645
Ah I found the bigscreen thing in the quest store and it's free and says it can indeed play local videos, so as long as it can actually access the subtitles i'm home free

>>469654460
Subtitles work in bigscreen but you don't get too many options like size/font or anything.
I pirated Moon VR because I like the passthrough feature and cast a movie on my living room walls

Walkabout Mini Golf Now! 1300 UTC!

>>469656269
Whoops, lobby name 'vrg' like normal

>>469654650
Yeah those are some huge subtitles and the 3d effect on them is weird, but eh I went through the mild jank of getting this set up with the bedroom environment and laying down I'll stick to it and try to enjoy the movie
Shame there doesn't seem to be an option for turning the room lights off though or even just generally being in pitch black besides the screen

>>469656416
Although I will definintly look into this Moon VR tomorrow

>join a public midnight rooftop lobby just to show a friend the game IRL
>some random tranny starts asking me for my age
>that's none of your business
>kicks me from the public lobby
???
since when can you just kick other players on a whim?

>>469639472
Dance floor area was a bit too small imo and just a tiny bit lackluster with lights (only because majority of the lights went on the wall behind us where we weren''t facing)

I think these sorts of maps need a "middleground" between dancefloor and secluded area. A lot of the rest of the map was nice but it felt very separate from dancefloor area, so options were basically SUPER LOUD claustrophobia or backrooms silence.

pic related is a funny little doodle to illustrate a little of what i mean, i think you need more wallflower areas that are a small step away from jumping back onto the floor

>>469657271
they don't want underage people around

EU Assetto Corsa: European Racing club, season 10!
Race 68.

19:00 UTC 20:00 CET, Monday 18th of March 2024.

Knockoff formulas in Hungaria. What can't be better?

1 hours practice
12 minutes qualifiers
8 laps race.

Afterwards some more drifting at Nikko.


Assetto - can be played with wheel, controller, or steam-vr-wheel addon, it doesn't matter, we will all have fun driving together. If you just bought Asseto - grab Assetto Corsa Content Manager - a better launcher and mod manager: https://assettocorsa.club/content-manager.html To install mods: just drag and drop zip files from mega onto the Content Manager windows and click on the hamburger menu on top right. Highly recommend installing stable custom shader patch and 7-zip plugin in Content manager.

For communication we'll use mumble at voice.vrg.party port 64738, as it doesn't need any registrations or logins.
https://www.mumble.info/


mods:
https://mega.nz/folder/XzpFyCZQ#Jr5DoPkebgbgl5bkQ0UuEg

Please download the mods early! There is quite a bit of them!

>>469657271
you joined a group public, which is like a public but with discord moderators

>>469657808
no, they wanted to power trip
they heard my voice and knew i was an adult
>>469658291
how am i supposed to discern this from a regular public lobby?

Good fishan' might host again next weekend.

>>469656416
I got up to get food and when I came back I swear in the same position I was higher up and couldn't properly see the whole screen, switched to another room and just sat up since the laying down angle thing seems pretty jank, I did get used to the 3d subtitles although I do still wish I could make them smaller

>>469660741
Thanks for hostan was fun! Hopefully we get more people for some fishiness party

Good gnolfing, gnolfers!

>>469658768
>hey whats your favorite board to browse
>none of your business fuck off
>*gets kicked*
same as we do, stop crying about it

What are your favorite Quest standalone games? The OP lists includes some of the best PCVR titles but pretty much nothing about standalones. Any lists, or personal favorites?

>>469663891
Are you looking specifically for Quest exclusives or are you just looking for games that have good Quest versions

Resident Evil 4 probably fits the former, genuinely a fantastic port (and one that people can actually play since it's not tied to PSVR2 like the remake is)

>>469639573
holy cringe

>>469663891
Into the Radius is a really good game for it too, sadly the PC version suffered a little because of it but the Second game should also be looking better on both sides this time around

>>469665067
I'm looking for Quest exclusives, if games have a PCVR version, I always go with them due to better graphics.
>>469666489
Yeah that one is in my top 5, already playing it in PCVR though, I suppose Quest version has lower graphs.

>>469660741
Here's a webm hope it works

>>469663891
Eleven table tennis, dungeons of eternity, and thrill of the fight or something like that.
A lot of people like story games like ashards wrath 2 and the assassins creed game but they're not my cup of tea

New shaders for skyrim VR got released and while looking great the performance hit is not worth it. From a somewhat solid 90fps to sub 70 in most areas.
Dynamic Cubemaps, Screen Space Shadows (looks amazing for trees in the distance and mountains), Subsurface Scattering and some more wetness effects you can see here https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/112739?tab=images

>>469639027
Is this a second counter-event?

>>469674890
Yea instead of a no event event, it's a no person event

Can we get a counter event for people who don't want to go to the event but also don't like counter events?

>>469675675
Can you play a VR game instead?

>>469676005
no that would kill me

>>469670148
>A lot of people like story games like ashards wrath 2 and the assassins creed game but they're not my cup of tea
Yeah, I feel the same way. My favorite games are VRC, Google Earth, Flight Sim, FPS shooting sims (H3, Pavlov, into the radious). But I can't get into story based RPG VRs.

Legendary Bitches

>>469663891
For me it'd be these, in no particular order

compound
amid evil
beatsaber
superhot
tetris effect

I'd list after the fall, but it might be after it's time in terms of activity.
I'm retrospect I'm not really sure assassin's creed would go on this list, it was expansive and I liked the gameplay, but it felt too aimless.

>>469684676
Were Legendary Tales lobbies posted in thread?
Have the game but haven't gotten far.

Separated from my frenemies

>>469639573
this is what you were doing god dam

>>469688419
Not gonna lie, I didn't like the Stalker maps. Way too many sightlines. Capturing the points (too many) was suicide when you can get shot across the entire map from any direction.

>>469690405
It was fun for the novelty but they didn't work very well for multiplayer combat

>>469688419
War crimes...

AHHH NUUUUU
CHEEEKI BREEKI IV DAMKE

>>469691150
>half of the webm is just disgusting stick rotation
The absolute state of leashcucks.

>>469692059
I'm going to get a wireless headset and play the exact same way for you, babe

>>469692169
And we will keep making fun of you, you dumb gay retard.

>>469675075
Sounds like you didn't get an invitation anon

>>469690405
For me it was the shadows, they were excruciatingly painful on index

>>469638789 (OP)
New Bred News!
We have an EU host! Graciously hosted by spaceman Lewis himself.
Astro April will be on April 13th
NA is 11:11PM EST / 10:11PM CST / 8:11PM PST
EU is 19:00 CET / 18:00 UTC
All the info needed (and what we have) is on our handy attached poster.
See you soon-ish, space cowboys!

>>469692169
I've got a wireless headset and I still use the stick 90% of the time. It's too much effort to turn around

>>469674073
>the performance hit is not worth it
You specs?

>>469693163
Fat and retarded.

>>469691019
Shot for trying to cross the border...

Artificial turning is a bad habit that isn't nessesary even with wired headsets.

t. one of the few headset owners from before wireless headsets that never used any form of artificial turn.

>>469684676
This game just looks atrocious! I don't mean by graphics quality, the dev seams void of any artistic sense.

>>469693761
I'm 58kg

>>469693923
Please play the game before trashing it so you have more fuel for the fire
see >>469549127 (Cross-thread)

>>469694281
Very shit host.
You can't resume the download with curl and it keeps interrupting. I've failed after downloading ~3gb two times and then just gave up.

>>469694535
Recommend a host an preferred chunk sizes and I'll upload it

>>469694796
The same host with 1.5gig chunks might work.
https://pixeldrain%2ecom/ allows the download resume, but the speed is a bit slower.

>>469695056
https://pixeldrain%2ecom/l/xus2xViS
https://gofile.io/d/yvOo0i

Pixeldrain has a rate limit after 5GB so keep that in mind

I'm not really a fan of the whole "No Event Event" and think its a prime timeslot and date for having the most half-assed event ever. There's apparently a map based on that half-assed willy wonka thing. I'll find that eventually. We'll start there whenever I feel like getting on. Anything remotely qualifying as an event avatar is encouraged.
:: The Event Event | March 22nd - 23rd ::
What is this?
This event is a counter event to the No Event Event cause I think its funny. Zero effort will be put in. Drag out an old event avatar you've wanted to bring out again or just put "this is my event avatar" on a t-shirt, I dont care.

When?
EU - Whenever you feel like it UTC (London)
NA - Whenever you feel like it but with objectively cooler people EST (New York)

Event!

>>469696123
>Pixeldrain has a rate limit after 5GB so keep that in mind
Not a real problem, you just switch IP.

>>469639472
It was a little too dark despite the amount of lights playing from audiolink on the map, a lot of people just looked pitch black.

>>469699365
nta but was this also the case with "proper" shaders like Standard or SCSS or aciil's or was this only with people who used liltoon?

>>469639472
Anybody got pictures of this cat dancing?

>>469693643
4080 and rendering at 2500x2500
FUS modlist, from the riverwood bridge looking at riverwood itself. Turning on cubemaps drops me from 10 to 12ms, activating all the other stuff like SSS, makes it spikes around 13-14ms.
It sucks and I'm starting to think my game run better with that old ENB preset there used to be. I feel like no one cares in the skyrim community since they're all reproj whores running their games at 45fps.

>>469696453
>check this
>actually got a DM
I thought it was a joke but it was real

>>469657793
>>469699365
Thank you for the valuable feedback lads.

>>469704240
with a 3090 I guess I won't have any better luck

>>469696453
>secret discord event
buh?

>>469621136 (Cross-thread)

>>469713332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZWO3bFz58g

>>469688120
You can post your steam name and lobby password and someone might join

>>469690539
>>469690405
Just need to play the single point data upload mode

>>469718325
I wish you could toggle on/off respawn timers for all modes, that was the one thing that I didn't like in Pavlov.

>>469621136 (Cross-thread)
The cheapest vodka I can buy mixed with whatever is already in the fridge

>>469718539
>5 seconds respawn time in data uplink
>BOOOO I NEED TO SHOOT NOOOW
>10 seconds respown in TF2VR
>WOOOOW I LOVE TF2 VR

BRUH

>>469719707
Is it waved based in tf2vr like the original or a flat 10s timer? I never felt like it was an issue somehow

Goddamn the ending and credits of the Legendary Tales is SOVL

They actually wrote all the music for the game too.

Shrek junior actually does gets his dream of staging players adventures as a play

>>469720007
It's wave based

>>469720007
No, it's the standard timer. At one point I noticed that we were struggling to push the cart because we repeatedly ran in to die one-by-one instead of pushing all at once.

>>469719707
All modes, no exceptions.
As an option for those who want it and those who do not.

>>469720805
I definitely remember having longer and shorter respawn times in TF2

>>469721780
Might be both at once then. Standard respawn timer hardcoded into the game and forced team respawn every X seconds added by the gamemode.

>>469721780
TF2 has respawn waves, sometimes you respawn within 5 seconds and sometimes it takes 19.

Hi all, with the meta 3, can it enter all the vrchat worlds without pc link?

>>469723658
no
it's still an android device

>>469643880
Delicious.

>>469702841
Just the one.

the chuck e cheese incident

>>469710446
how is this a secret discord event good sir

>>469728567
Thanks doc

>>469619824 (Cross-thread)
face tracking?

>>469718669
literally me

where is everyone, its na hours yet its mostly eus out and about

>>469734463
NA hours is like 2-3 hours away

>>469734463
SEA hrs is in 8 hrs! Exploration soon fellow seamonkeys/strayans

>>469734805
fucking west coasters

>>469723658
this can never happen even in many generations, unless vrchat starts doing some unity shit and applying fallback shaders for any non-standard ones and making the worlds look totally different than intended

>>469723658
this can never happen even in many generations, unless vrchat starts doing some unity shit and applying fallback shaders for any non-standard ones and making the worlds look totally different than intended

>>469734463
hungover

>>469660762
Another issue with the subtitles is it can't in any way display multiple lines of subs at all so if one short line cuts into another longer one right after the longer one starts you have to go back and pause right at the start of the longer line to read it, or seemingly choose to put them in a non standard spot so during a scene with music that on VLC puts the lyrics in the top left it puts them in the dialogue spot and again causes the music to cut off dialogue.
Still it is marked as a beta can't be too upset

The /vrg/ ads unironically make me want to get a headset and fucking coom.

I don't think you realize just how fucking hard my dick gets for those cute redheads.

Happy birthday AR!

>>469735801
not a west coast problem more like a east coast thing though, I'll never understand why people keep thinking this

>>469748813
>It's the East Coasters wanting to wait until literally midnight to get on, not the west coasters being too lazy to get into VR until 9pm their time because they get home from work at like 7 and need to goon and '''''decompress''''''

cope

>>469748813
>>469751103
more like
both coasts play flat games until late

>>469751634
This is also true, I guess morning wagies are in the minority most likely.

happy saint patricks day fellas

>>469638789 (OP)
>>469693085
hey guys we now have astro-assets to share!
https://drive.google.com/drive/u/3/folders/1ALSLCXu5OvQ7uDy_k2oGfvbVWgQQkof0
please let me know if this link works for you guys

>>469755727
The link works! I'll try downloading it tomorrow thanks anon!

>>469755727
Neato thanks. I'm downloading a few now
By any chance do you have a space suit that sorta is close to pic related?
I'm looking through your files right now and it might be doable with some elbow grease

>>469756308
in the folder right now? probably erin would be your closest imo. can always edit some evangelion models maybe? i'll keep my eyes peeled for some assets

i just added "nio" and "ev01" to the drive, which could also be close. check it out!

>>469756910
Thanks, I'll try downloading Erin! and downloading from Eva models is a good idea. I'll try to steal some parts from rips on those

https://x.com/VRC_HMM
Does anyone know what physics they are using?

Vibe check

>>469765404
I'm making avatars
To be specific I am ecstatic managed to finally to take the time to organize my files. LOOK AT IT. Unity chan is so clean now

My avatar project feels so nice
and SEA explore soon!

>>469765404
still can't sleep after hours of attempts, psychotic episode and 2 doses of tranquilizers, ngmi...

>>469734463
This is EU hours though, NA hours starts at 5am east coast

>>469727107
I love that cat

>>469765404
I'm severely depressed, want to blow my brains out, bored of this community and being in vr, and want to fall off the face of the earth and never come back so I can do other things with my life
I'll see you guys in a month

>>469770104
See you again soon anon. If you're still awake maybe some VR travels can help your mind reset, come join us

:: SEA Anime and Exploration - Edition | (See schedule below) ::
What is this?
We go in a group to explore many new VRchat worlds in a rapid fashion to find good ones and experience them in full with nice frens. We watch a couple of seasonal anime before the explore!

When?
Sun - 9:00AM-10:30AM UTC - SEA anime
Sun - 10:30AM-3:00PM UTC - SEA after hrs heavy exploration

There will be one soon in a few hrs will drop updating rentry world link from programmer-anon when the time is nigh.

>>469770104
I hope it ends up alright for you. If you can find something happy even if at a different place that's already great, I know it's not much, but I'll be rooting for you!

>>469740151
Another interesting subtitle quirk, deoVR should be exactly what I want, you can play a local 2d file and get a screen in front of you in otherwise pitch blackness, problem is it seems it can only play subtitles from a seperate dedicated subtitle file and can't read from the MKV, maybe it can read direct from other filetypes though

>>469770104
let me know if i can do anything to help anon you wanna talk or if you wanna play another game

>>469770104
Feel better soon.

How do you deal with getting hot inside VR and your face hurting after 1-2 hours? I get almost no motion sickness after a month of usage but the sweating and facial pain is killing me after some time. I even changed the padding of Quest 3 to a silicone one and ordered the most comfortable strap I could find but my face still gets red like picrel after some time.

>>469774612
Welcome to why I hate vr

>>469774612
Buy a lighter HMD

>>469774612
Counterweight, Q3 is still pretty front heavy. Also don't tighten it so much, you don't need it pressed into your skull for immersion, if QPro taught me something it's that you don't need sealed facial interface or light blockers at all for immersion so if you can counterweight your Q3 enough you could just use something like this https://www.amazon.com/X-super-Interface-Forehead-Replacement-Addition/dp/B0CTMLN2JV.

>>469774612
The quest 3's default strap is awful, try a third party strap

>>469775290
I got this one. https://www.amazon.com/ZYBER-Load-Reducing-Double-Knob-Pressure-Free-Replacement/dp/B0CNT8YGHQ

>>469770450
SEA Exploration is live!
Come join! on Yuki Nagato
https://vrchat.com/home/user/usr_861a4a15-e621-40e8-9049-e675dddc41cf
Auto-updating rentry linker is broken (edited)

>>469776119

oil rig

>>469770104
i dont remember making this post

>>469776119

>>469778137

Tea making map!

>>469778669
comfy
>>469779431
kawaiii

>>469776119

The long walk

>>469776119

>>469776119

city

>>469781369
city, on

This is a mirror button

>>469776119

>>469776119
don't say it

I speed run vrchat

>>469782451
>more than one avatar
>paying for them
you could have purchased dozens of games for that money...

>>469782451
>no karin
NGMI

>>469782451
>A grand total of 408000 JPY = ~2500€ in not that great Booth avatars
You could had bought a top of the line PC (4090 + 7800X3D) with all that money.

>>469782607
There's no video games worth buying

581MB...

>>469783572
i already got one few months ago

>>469783837
you'd have more fun with video games "not worth buying" than all of those horrible overrated booth avatars
having more than one of them just makes you a forgettable schizo who can't carve out his own identity. if anything, buying all of them instead of making a decision will actively make you less satisfied

>>469784358
Thats why i got these too

Blacktop hoops but replace all the nogs with kangaroos

>>469782451
>>469784497
>>469784238
Some of the most insane shit I've seen here in years well done.
Also show the built pc.

>>469784358
poorfags malding

>>469786686
over 5m yen spent in my weeb shit uwu 45 pages of avis and clothes

>>469784238
Based retard

honkai star rail (real)

>>469774612
I have a big floor fan gently moving air around me

Also, you might be wearing it too tight

Why is the desktopping faggot cat allowed in again?

>>469786686
excuse me for not wanting to share the same virtual air as someone who spent 35k on generic vrchat models

it's time to kill some source engine zombies in VR again, this time at 18:15 CET!

installation is simple and quick: get the VR mod from https://github.com/sd805/l4d2vr and read the instructions. optionally get https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=2939813248

our two campaigns for today will be The Passing (vanilla) and Dark Wood (custom, get it at https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=575682109 on workshop)

>>469789702

I am done for today

>>469790908
hey J how is the cookie stealer coming along?

>>469791439
already working

>>469776119

>>469792202
hell yeah.

LGBTQIA+ represent

>>469776119

>>469782158
fuck you gem p

>>469789574
in case my lobby gets filled as quick as last time: you can easily host your own lobby by creating a "Local Server". also the game has voice chat, follow https://youtu.be/9A2lJRCCqwM and check your Steam's voice settings, it takes the Input Device from there. if set to "Default" then your headset microphone will be used when in VR.

>>469789574
>>469803704
lobby up, chicken avatar S as host. 2/4 free.

>>469808053
Looking good, yuru.

Thanks who for kicking the randos last night

>>469789574
The Passing ended, setting up for Dark Wood now. difficulty will be Advanced.

>>469789574
>>469812173
Dark Wood ended abruptly with a crash (that I couldn't replicate in single player VR) and my apocalypse friends disappeared. thanks for joining on The Passing; next Sunday again but around 22-23 CET like the first time.

Is anybody else having performance problems with vrshat recently, like in the past week? It's now using a stupid amount of CPU for some reason; I can't even get 144hz in an empty world without frame drops now. It doesn't seem to be a GPU issue either, since I can change the render resolution in steamvr from 20% to 250% without any change, and steamVR still shows late CPU frames at 20%. Other games seem unaffected; even shillout runs at 144hz in empty instances (all of them :^)

SteamVR and vrchat and windows all had minor updates last week so I suspect something is broken, but I haven't found anything obvious yet.

>>469790703
world name?

>>469819771
have you tried restarting your computer?

>>469819771
Might be a coin miner. These activate during VR because there's no mouse or keyboard input.

>>469798821
Never seen a daily dose pride flag before. Thanks doc.

>>469819771
Much debugging later, there's still nothing obvious. my cpu isn't throttling, and it benchmarks to reference. Nothing else weird is running in process explorer. I played a dumb Alyx workshop campaign for a while with no issues. I reset my vrchat install and had to remember where shit is in the settings to change, to no avail. It seems like vrchat just uses a minimum of 4ms CPU frame time now, which immediately jumps to 11ms if you open the quick menu. Modern software. Guess I'll submit a bug report, but it's probably futile.

Shameless tourist passing by because I've thought about getting into vrc recently, does the thread have a repository of ripped/shared models on a torrent somewhere or something like that
My only point of comparison is koikatsu which has dedicated anti paywaller dudes, but the vibe definitely seems different when it comes to personal avatars that you actually interact in a social space with.

>>469837490
someone has to vouch for you first because vrc-specific models are made by smaller creators who will go after you for pirating their shit

>>469837490
read the op there's a small assets booru
or you can go scouge through 3d mmd assets on niconico or deviant art, theres a ton of stuff that might not be VRC ready but they are free and theres a lot of tutorials out there

>>469836780
>jumps to 11ms if you open the quick menu
I've had this problem too. I think it has something to do with creating all the ui elements, player pill meshes, nameplates, and other crap that is usually hidden all at once. In crowded instances I try not to open my quickmenu because of it or at least look away from everyone when I do.

>>469776119
ggwp mates, nice exploran. Fell asleep , till next time

>>469839545
Yeah, the quick menu certainly adds overhead, but I definitely don't remember it adding 7ms to the frame time on its own. Well, I submitted a support request, maybe tubber will fix it. Or I'll finally buy the meme x3d cpu and reinstall windows. there's 7 years of junk in this install.

>>469825567
Gm Construct

>>469776119

>>469788219
Cause he sometimes goes into VR

>>469789789
>>469776119
Epic flying chill moment

>>469776119
Scarab mode
This anime girl did not survive the scarab. Rest in Peace

>>469776119

>>469776119
Wa

>>469776119
Why is this cyberpunk chick so smug?

ive been in blender all day :(

>>469846584
Sounds like you're having fun anon

I'm not hosting Mahjong tonight. Feel free to host it yourself. That is all.

newfag to /vrg/ here, is anyone hosting anything on VRchat atm?

>>469848017
run

>>469848017
no but do you like chess

>>469848017
sundays are slow
people mostly watch movies on sundays

Day one of VR game dev.
>Fixed guns shooting after recoil was applied (I removed recoil)
Also, just buying a prefab and setting it up sure went fast. Also made a map for the game, hoping to try out the netcode PvP next. Was some syncing issues when joining a lobby.

>>469846584
at least you do it during dead hours and not Saturday night like retard me

>>469849876
>ANOTHER vrfps dev
gl

>>469850103
ah true, i didnt get on last night though.
at least i know how to parent armatures now

>>469848379
Yeah, but I like billiards more

>>469850783
I'm the guy from yesterday. Bought a prefab today and played around with it.
Thats pretty much it lol.

>>469844646
>Ehhhhhhhh? Anon-kun you can't be that much of a weeb are you?

>>469852704
If you promise to suck my dick in VRchat I'll show you something that is cool and will allow you to hyper charge your VRFPD development

>>469856329
I will not do that.

>>469857145
Damn shame anon. A damn shame

>>469850103
>he doesn't make quick fixes to his avatar in the overlay while talking to people
Risking crashing is part of the fun.

>>469858140
I get 20 fps just in vrc alone theres no way I could

>>469858369
pussy!
DO IT anon DO IT!

NA anime tonight at 10 pm est in vrchat

Sousou no Frieren - 27
Symphogear s2 - 09
Symphogear s2 - 10
Cromartie High School - 03+04 (half length eps)

Expected host here. Poker or golf today?? It is st patricks day unironically so Im thinking poker would be more traditionally appropriate. What do you guys think??

>>469859557
if you do golv ill showup. I have a new headset to golf with

> Poker or golf today?
*yawn*

>>469859557
I'm going to host poker but with actual betting.

I wish to be the cute VR anime girl

>>469863932
pretty doable desu

>>469860625
we could do that but one of the banned guys may use an alt today and they wont have too much money. Could just give em some if theyre about to run out but still.

>>469867854
You get like 100k on your first pull as a fresh account, so unless they go blow it at the slots, it shouldn't be an issue.

>>469843140
O and M should get a room instead of making out in the public

Does someone have a picture of literally 'Who?' making shadow puppets at chuck-e-cheese?

>>469850103
i do like the model you made, but the nose hole things don't look good
they look like bad normals or even shadow acne
keep them if you really like them, that said

How drastic are male bases compared to female bases if you want to look for clothes for them?

>>469872509
For perspective, look at pic related while knowing that the Minase, the most popular male base has 822 items. The silly Mamehinanta chibbi base has 1.5x more items for her.

https://boothplorer.com/avatars

>>469872509
1 :: 1000
And no I am not exaggerating.
For every 1 male clothing piece there are 1,000 for females.

>>469859490
https://vrch.at/5fct3ddh

anime

>>469873193
just like real life...

>>469869567
Here you go, here's literally who?
Would you?

>>469876468
Awooga

>>469877797
She’s lying! Don’t listen to that little fumo. That drover’s license is fake!

>>469877797
I’m sorry Ma- I mean Sir, this drivers license expired 12 days ago, this document isn’t valid…

>>469878469
It's mm/dd not dd/mm my good man

in 45ish we're gonna try Higher stakes poker in PokerStarsVr/ Vegas Infinite.

What's the point of shilling in the thread if the only people who come are from your tranny discord?

>>469881640
I have zero people from /vrg/ added on Discord and I show up to poker.

>>469881010
Bitch you never go so you dont know who shows up

>>469881640
I have every person from /vrg/ added on Discord and I don't show up to poker

>>469881776
some retard has been calling everything a discord event lately

>>469881640
I only post about my sunday lobbies the thread, believe it or not.

> calling everything a discord event lately
say what you want, but voicechanger tranny events are literally discord event

>>469882071
Well they post it on the thread primarily right?
I know they're a discord faggot but posting it on the thread is good.

>they're

who are you quoting?

that meme doesn't work when it's an actual quote

practice gratitude

>>469881010
I might show up, might be a bit late, heave a headache

>>469881010
What do you mean by higher stakes?

>>469884004
Whoever loses has to take it in the ass.

>>469884004
the stakes are higher than usual

>>469883443
I am grateful the animu clubs of /vrg/ like this one >>469859490 continue to post on the thread for anyone from here to join
RAMEN

So how are we feeling about the Easy Anti Cheat breach? Is it over? Are we back?

>>469884550
We're stockholm syndrome on VRchat as the only viable social VR platform right now with a massive inertia of a huge player base.
It still has the best UI, IK, and player comfort and usability settings of any platform.
On top of this it also has a lot of community driven prefabs from avatars, world, scripts(udon), unity scripts (vrcfury, modularavatar etc.) and lots more that further reinforces it's dominance.

We're waiting for viable alternatives that have market out-reach to potentially carve a competition to this monopoly.
For now I'm still gonna have VRchat babes suck my virtual cock till an alternative emerges.

>>469885049
>For now I'm still gonna have VRchat babes suck my virtual cock till an alternative emerges.
??????????

>>469884550
Notwithstanding the ChatGPT response, literally, nobody actually cared. evem the most devout holdout from CVR gave up and came back. I was indifferent towards it, only thing I miss was freezeframe mod, that's it.

>>469885286
>ChatGPT response
we call them dukiposts here

PokerStarsVr/Vegas Infinite is starting NOW.
Lobby name: TitaniumRyder's game
Code: 1984

>>469885382
It's funnier to call them chatgpt posts

>>469885265
It's a funny way of saying I'm still gonna be mainly using VRchat cause it's just the best social platform right now.

But having multiple options for social platform would be good. And having open-sourced social VR platform similar to Web browsing will be the best where we can just visit each other's VR IP addresses or place public ones as we see fit.

>>469885479
we got 4 spots

>>469887128
3

>>469885286
He's talking about some EAC exploit to execute code. No one is quite sure if it's EAC or EA games though.

>>469888045
it may just be Apex specifically with an RCE vuln

>>469885049
>For now I'm still gonna have VRchat babes suck my virtual cock till an alternative emerges.
woah yuki ur horny

>>469883443
I'm thankful to be born in a time when VR exists. My brain was never made for reality.

>>469888230

>>469885049
CVR getting full Lua scripting soon, really hoping someone creates some kind of killer app/gamemode with it that gives VRC real competition.

My favourite gamemodes are Sandbox Escape and Remote Code Execution.

>>469888892
Honestly I'm still gutted bonelabs was such a flop. If that had native multiplayer and an actually complete sdk, it would have been the unironic vrchat killer.

>>469887569
2

east 1 honba 2. over before it began.

same 3 lobbies
same 3 gay retards

>>469885049
still think it's gonna be s&box ultimately. They were already able to foster a social game with Garys Mod which still has an active playerbase. Most big dev's can't create a social game to save their life.
company's also willing to go the extra mile to correct errors. Even though Rust isn't my cup, they switched engines with it mid development. With S&box they have already switched between unity, unreal, and settled on source 2.
don't know enough about resonite.

>s&box
lmao

>>469892534
>don't know enough about resonite.
resonite is plagued with furries and engineering autism.
They almost refuse to make the UI simpler for the common folks.

>>469888892
Here's to hoping yeah... kam'on CVR put on a fight!

>>469888892
Doesn't matter what CVR has because people will stay where their friends are or where the biggest community is. No one can replace VRC till VRC self destructs.

>>469893790
i love how uselessly submissive the folks are here when it comes to making decisions for themselves
of all the places on the internet, this is where the users are acting like sheep sticking to the norm
vrc team learned their lesson and keep changes that cause outrage spread out so they'll avoid the breaking point up until some sap finally buys their product without realizing the legal headache it would be

>>469893790
Surely competition is possible.
Just like how facebook exists while twitter also exists.
Two social platforms can exist side by side even if they're quite in competition with each other.

>>469894604
Not if they're offering the same service. Twitter and Facebook, especially when Twitter was taking off, was completely different from Facebook beyond being labeled as social media. CVR is offering VRChat's experience, but with new toys and none of your existing friends or communities unless you drag them there. It's a fucking retarded venture that will only work if VRC explodes.

>>469894787
Ok how did Facebook overtake Friendster and MySpace?

>>469888892
VRC doesn't even have a killer app/game mode. It's just faggots laying around talking. So CVR getting Lua means nothing.

>>469894853
They literally bought the companies and shuttered them. You think CVR is able to buy vrchat?

>>469894998
VRC's killer app is POOL and Mirror I kid you not, every map has these. The functional and easy to use UI and IK are gravy too on top of these.

>>469894853
Are you arguing that Facebook and Myspace were even remotely the same? Are you 12 and heard mythical tales of Myspace without ever using it? Myspace was essentially a user friendly way to make your own shitty webpage, while Facebook was all about connecting you to your friends by putting their status and posts into a single feed. You'd be better served comparing Facebook to RSS.

>Friendster
lol lmao, and Facebook got a huge head start by being aimed at collage kids so you had a huge demographic of social people that wanted a way to communicate en-mass without adults being able to see it. Friendster also didn't serve a single feed like Facebook and was more of a Myspace aimed at adults, but you're retarded for implying that it was anywhere near the other two in cultural significance or addoption.

>>469894853
By providing better service. CVR is still technically far behind VRC.
>>469894998
People that want "social VR but not VRC" are already playing RecRoom, Resonite, cluster or even Horizons. CVR is targeted exclusively at people that want carbon copy of VRC

>>469894590
>uselessly submissive
CVR just sucks shit
It has nothing to do with not being decisive

Live from Benuldy's, Fuck You Buddy.

>>469895694
Fuck me yourself coward

Dead hrs rise up!

>>469900632
Nice ass, I mean nice butt, I mean nice ass

LOOKIN GOLD YURU!!1

>>469900767
a nice firm pair of reality-bending buttocks

>>469900938
Who could be this mysterious silhouette!

Can't play VRChat because of the EAC exploit. Time to clean up my 6 years old game backlock.

>>469901561
What exactly is the new EAC exploit?

>>469901619
No one really knows for now

>>469885049
>We're stockholm syndrome on VRchat as the only viable social VR platform
Good thing I don't give a fuck about social platforms

>>469901696
Is the only evidence of this happening one streamer getting walls on stream? If so there's a good chance there's no exploit and it was just that one faggot having the wrong screen being streamed.

>>469902007
But man the METAVERSE is the be-all and end-all for Virtual Reality.
A completely separate reality where everyone is in and interconnected similar to how the Web browsers all connect us.

>>469902073
No, it was multiple people getting gifted magical 30 degree cone of death aimbots on stream, hacking menu pop-ups, and then the hacker spamming chat, all in a professional match of Apex in front of like 70 to 80k viewers.

>>469902092
The true metaverse dream is dead. If it was really like a web browser, it would be an open protocol not controlled by a single company, and allow users to self-host their own virtual worlds. As long as one company controls social VR, it's just Second Life with fullbody.

>>469902385
Why didn't you support it Anon?

>>469902648
That didn’t allow custom avatars when we tried it at first though and the framework was shit.
Hubs could have been the metaverse if they opensourced even the avatar system including IK and scripting

>>469873102
Goes to show how many ppl do not want a sexy avatar and just want something cool and or cute that can be customized, but there arent that many models like that yet so mamehinata remains wildly successful.

>>469902648
Hubs is as much of a locked down walled garden as Meta Horizons is. The only thing close to a true metaverse I've found is Janus VR and it's dead as fuck.

>>469902880
Janus doesn't even work in VR anymore, it has been dead for years

God I wish pic related was semi-decent at release and didn't try to have everything while being a one man's project

>>469884550
>Easy Anti Cheat breach
This is the first I've heard of it, any details?

>>469903404
Basically EAC runs at high end system level on your PC so it has access to everything on your PC; including Windows. It can technically modify your windows install and put in malware, such as logging your passwords or deleting all your files. It doesn't because it doesn't. However, someone found a exploit in EAC which would allow them to abuse EAC's access to your system to execute arbitrary code; essentially someone can delete all your files or install trojans, bitcoin miners, ransomware, all kinds of garbage, remotely over VRC.

I don't know the details of how it's exploited but that's the impact.

>>469903404
Read >>469901696

>>469902279
>Apex
I would believe it was some hacker with an autism against that game or streamers or something more so than a widely accessible exploit. I doubt it would be used over vrchat because of how small fry this game is. Still I'm hoping it gets figured out before the weekend when I'm next on to drink. Any instances of it happening in other games? We still don't know if it's apex specific or EAC specific.

>>469902073

Honestly pretty based fuck apex

What the fuck went so wrong?

>>469904857
PS5 has no games

>>469904857
>quest pro

>>469903817
The free thinkers here would rather give up control over their PC's to PUG skiddies and malicious actors then playing CVR for a week or two until this is resolved.

>>469903821
based, fuck streamers

>>469906005
If only CVR had scripting just now...

>>469906054
scripting doesn't matter if there's not enough of a playerbase to attract developers

>>469906160
With server side scripting there's stuff i wanna do in cvr i can't in vrc
Lack if scripting when vrchat got everyone angy was a huge missed opportunity

>>469912257
CVR missed the train twice already, first during Questofication period in 2019 when people were ready to jump ship but CVR was kept in closed beta and then with EAC when CVR shat the bed by not having server capacity. Lack of scripting was never the problem, it was always CVR being poorly prepared for the influx of VRC refugees

I would say I don't care about the whole EAC thing since I only play in Private Instances, but they're Private /vrg/ Instances which aren't exactly private when anyone can go on 4chan and join a link from here to pwn chuds with their trans rights ransomware.

>>469904330
Fuck. I guess that I'm sticking to singleplayer games for the rest of the week. I keep all of my banking info on my gaming PC and I don't think it's worth the risk until VRChat switches to Battle Eye or something.

>>469917447
VRChat aren't switching, their Discord is in full damage control mode right now with everyone going "um actually we don't know that it's Easy Anti Cheat"

>>469906005
In reality nobody cares how well (or. badly) built vrc or cvr are. The only thing that matters us where the user base is just like any social media platform. Nobody cares about cvr cus it's a graveyard

>>469917967
To be fair, we really don't know it's EAC. It really could just be Apex players being cheaters.

FYI Apex uses a lazily modified source engine, Source has had multiple RCE issues in the past.

>>469919230
yeah I'm more inclined to believe it's an apex thing rather than an EAC thing. Especially when the only source for this being an EAC issue comes from a clearly biased source

>>469919687
Um no sweatie it's EAC's fault

Questies get all the fun stuff it's not fair
https://youtu.be/JxrwhEGbVho

I find it impossible to go back to flat gaming after trying out VR. The other day, I tried playing Fallout 4 on my TV and it felt completely unimmersive. I just couldn't enjoy it and stopped after 15 minutes.

>>469920529
I tried RE4 on quest the other day and I was surprised by how good it is.

Anyone knows where I can find these, or something similar from another brand (these are from kiwi)?
It looks to me like the standalone version has been discontinued by Kiwi and they only sell the whole thing with a strap, which I don't need because I already have a good bobovr one.
I found them on aliexpress but it was at a terrible price and just not worth buying, maybe because they have been discontinued.
Or if anyone knows a similar solution other than just using earbuds (which I have been recommended to avoid by my doctor due to some ear issues).

>>469920529
The exclusivity for both actual games and even mods has really killed a lot of my enthusiasm for VR games in general. There is already a content drought, and segmentation has made it worse. It's ironic as flat game exclusivity has gone down with Sony and Microsoft porting everything and all Nintendo games getting emulated.

>>469922425
Exclusivity is what VR industry just might need to give it step up into the mainstream industry. Remember how in early 2000's Xbox and PS2 boosted the number of game sales almost 10 times? The easier a game is to run and play means more normies are going to buy that device. Therefore, more devs are going to be making more games, more investments, faster tech development etc.

>>469922425
I caved in and got a quest 3 to pirate quest exclusive and play all the team beef's stuff. It sucks but at least there's movement in the VR space, even if PCVR gets scraps at least there's some stuff happening.

>>469905004
Wait what happened with the Quest Pro? Why was it massive then got completely eaten up by Quest 3?

>>469920615
The VR version with mods actually redeemed that shitty game for me. I'm not even going to bother with Fallout London unless they get it working in VR.

>>469923651
Everytime you post you remind me of setting up a modlist for the game but I still got an horrible sour taste from playing it on release I can't bring myself up to doing it.
I need to set up Endereal VR first ;_;
So little time, so many vr videogames.

>>469902385
In the end, it’s the attention whoring aspect of bringing your custom avatar into a platform that makes online social interaction in virtual space interesting and unique. Avatar uploading just needs to be a standardized feature in everything and streamlined further, so it would be like dragging and dropping your avatar file into any application, game or website without a second thought. That way, people wouldn’t mind rapidly switching between multiple platforms at a time and not stick to one.

> As long as one company controls social VR, it's just Second Life with fullbody.
There has been at least some improvement from the Second Life and Gaia Online era, where you had zero rights to your avatar and couldn’t export it for use outside the platform. With most VRChat avatars, they are supported by multiple platforms and can be used in your own game or even for non-game applications like vtubing and video conference calls. The metaverse is definitely taking shape, you could argue its already here minus the universal avatar faggatory, thats all that is really missing.

>>469922197
Probably wouldn't be too hard to get some decent on ear headphones and DIY something to clip them to the strap

>>469923131
those were quest 3's being detected incorrectly

>>469922197
I recomend logitek chorus. Its almost index audio for quest 2

>>469923651
Same. I was a huge Fallout 2 fan, I loved Fallout 3 and New Vegas on launch. Hated Fallout 4 on launch. Never went for more than a few quests on it until I tried the VR version (with mods).

>>469901696
Its more likely the fact its a source engine game since source engine and RCEs just go together.

>>469923813
Universal avatar is the dream.
I'll be so hyped if it happens properly

>>469895318
>The functional and easy to use UI
you gave me a good laugh there, anon

>>469919230
>>469919687
Seems like most of the Internet has forgotten that the same thing happened to Titanfall.

>>469918008
>/vrg/ cares about where the pubbies are
fascinating

>>469922753
>team beef's stuff
Any recommended Quest exclusives?

Last time I tried CVR, my fbt didn't work right, the game crashed 4 times in my 25 minutes of trying to play it, and on my final crash the servers went down too.

>>469929047
VRM is the closest we have, pair that with vroid studio and it should work.
Any Unity game can add VRM support, but with it comes the issues of performance. Imagine 20 coomer avatars in Pavlov shitting things up.

>>469929592
Quake 3 Arena and Half Life 1. Raze XR when it stops being Patreon exclusive.

The only way to get universal avatars anytime soon is to create a standard, maybe even with multiple tier like 256, 1024, 10k triangles max with a basic texture from a list of presets.
Allowing retards to do whatever they want will always result in a mess. You don't need 300k verticies, 5 textures and multiple shaders. You simply don't.

>>469930772
i also don't need to see your retarded overexaggerated posts yet here you are

>>469930772
>a basic texture from a list of presets.
Meant to say "a simple texture with a basic shader"

>>469930932
>i also don't need to see
Who cares what you need? You're a gorilla nigger.
The discussion is important.

>>469931078
shut the fuck up before i run you over

>>469931152
Nah, you run too slow for that. Too many vertices.

>>469930772
While the need for optimization is important, an avatar that is so low poly that it's a poor substitute for a person's normal body is kind of pointless.

Even boothshit is an unoptimized mess because there are no standards.
Imagine if nips supplied a basic optimized model which adheres to the standard together with the raw model, so people can use them right away instead of wasting hours just trying to get somewhere close to optimal performance.

>>469931518
How many triangles do you think you need?

>>469931560
>>469931226
>>469931078
>>469930772
nigger go to vrc forums or something, why the fuck do we care?

>>469931739
>noo don't post on-topic!!! where is my virtual gay sex!!!? my head hurts!

>>469931913
if you like optimization so much then how about you optimize your posts and reduce their number to zero, faggot?

>>469931721
My usual avatar sits between 40k and 70k.
You could probably get away with less if the art style was good, but the example you posted literally has squares for hands. That's too simple.

>>469932034
How about I optimize your oxygen consumption by shooting you to the head? How about that?

>>469932049
The example I posted is only 256 triangles. And that's what you need if you want 1k lobbies with good performance on current hardware.
The point is that you can still make avatar which looks good even with 256 triangles.

>My usual avatar sits between 40k and 70k.
That's the reason we have the current state of things when you can't get to 90fps even with 4090 in a lobby with more than 10 people.
But you can cope with avatar hider, right? So performance doesn't matter.

>>469932539
I'm one of the best optimized people around, I take up about 35mb of vram. You could fit a very large number of my avatar into a single room.
I agree with the notion that avatars need to be more optimized, but I'd you optimize to the point where people can't express themselves, what's the point of custom avatars in the first place? It's even worse when you optimize down to the point where the avatar isn't even an accurate representation of the human body that it's supposed to be a substitute for.

>>469933453
>but I'd you optimize to the point where people can't express themselves
Hard limitations like triangle count make people more creative, not less.
>can't express themselves
Also very funny when you considering that most people use off-the-shelf booths instead of creating their own stuff.
>an accurate representation of the human body that it's supposed to be a substitute for.
Did you even read the main post? I'm not saying use only 256tris, but there should be a hard limit, and it's way less than 40k.

>>469934103
Okay so what do you think the hard limit should be?

>>469934103
>Also very funny when you considering that most people use off-the-shelf booths instead of creating their own stuff.
you are a product of two sets of DNA mixing together, you didn't make yourself from scratch
how are (You) different from somebody taking a booth and headswapping it with some FX layer replacements?

>>469934103
Not sure. 20k?

And about the accurate representation of the human body again, pic related, you can do a lot with so little, if only you try. And that's only 256tris, imagine what you can do with 512. Yeah, that's creativity.

To be honest the VR chat of this general is pretty gay

>>469934617
to
>>469934203

>>469934640
funny joke, now kill yourself.

>>469934894
>kill yourself
41%'er projecting

>>469934617
>Pic related
It still has squares for hands

It seems like you just really really like low poly modeks

lmao as expected

you're a retard, because less triangles = less surface
less surface = worse texture quality
let alone the fact that you are looking from the perspective of fucking concept art and static model rather than looking in person and seeing the absolute horror of clipping and scuffed visuals when you can actually, virtually press your face next to it and see every pixel
yeah
let's all be static or minimally animated skeletons who can't express themselves
you are the dumbest fucking nigger

On the topic of "we need a universal model format so we can import our characters in every vr games", I say "NO!". Keep your gay shit in the gay closet.

>>469935178
>less surface = worse texture quality
Stopped reading here. You are retarded and have 0 idea what you are talking about.
Texture quality is independent from the vertex count.

>>469935326
let's see you fit an HD looking texture in your UVs then, smartass
you -do- have proof of concept that you made instead of reposting other people's shit, right?

>>469934617
It’s ok to like low poly. Not everyone does.

>>469935419
UV is just just a projection, a look up table for vertices. You can map it however you want, you 80 iq monkey.
Don't talk if you don't know shit.

>>469924602
Damn, thanks that does seem nice, but I am not sure it fits over the bobovr strap, and it is also a bit pricey for me right now.
>>469923926
Wouldn't something like this be meant to go way closer to the ear than you could get by attaching them on the strap or something? I am not sure, I haven't used on ear headphones before.

>>469935550
show your work nigger or FUCK OFF

>>469935493
If it's 13 fps or low poly, I will pick low poly any day of the week.

My index is dying and im tired of buying replacement parts.

Should I save up for a bigscreen? I've had 3 VR headsets now and for #4 want eye tracking

>>469935052
i thought the trans suicide rate was 30%~?

>>469935613
>gets proven to be factually wrong on absolute basic stuff which everyone should know
>"FUCK OFF FUCK OFF"
lol
look up what information vertex actually consists of and stop embarrassing yourself

>>469935696
what kind of rig are you running that you have 13 fps? you should be worrying about other shit instead of playing vr if you can't afford a mediocre graphics card

>>469935696
Always try and start in a map that has good frames. Most maps are complete unoptimized garbage.

>>469935887
There is no PC that you can buy which will run vrchat even at stable 90fps. It's simply impossible.

>>469935860
more like 10% realistically

>>469935696
Low poly environments in VR give me a headache. I like graphic fidelity.

>>469936038
7800X3d/4090 will do it for most instances. Or if you're cheap, a 4080 super.

>>469935696
Sounds like a poverty issue. I get 50+ fps in most lobbies.

>>469936038
Yeah but people commit optimization crimes in vrchat. There's a middle ground between low poly and 500k polys with 17 lights, 65 materials, and multiple 4k textures.

>>469936178
There is no PC that you can buy which will run vrchat even at stable 90fps. It's simply impossible.

>>469936379
if you dont use the safety settings in vrchat then its basically the same as complaining about low FPS with path tracing on in cyberpunk. i manage very good FPS, just by hiding VP avatars.

>>469936038
i have a 7800x3d and a 4080 and i run at 90 fps in sub 30 people rooms. i just avatar hider limit at 30 people

>>469936379
It's a user content game. If you don't block the top outliers from ruining your performance that's a you problem. Users upload their own content so as a user you have to curate it for your experience.

>>469936262
That's why 256tris is a good start. The niggers will try to rise the count regardless, so if you start there, you eventually get to a reasonable number.

Should be good for some NA Exploration: I have so much fucking space now edition tonight. Aiming for probably 9-10 est start time based almost entirely upon how long dinner takes me to cook. See you soon.

>>469936689
Or we can just create reasonable standards so everyone gets good performance without requiring everyone to have the literally top the line PC.

>>469936776
You are insane it’s very fortunate that you are not in charge of anything meaningful.

>>469937140
Finally awake huh?

Just booted up the game for a quick run and I swear they must've updated the fog to make it even more impenetrable, mad how they made the first levels the worst and expected people to power through it to even have a chance of levelling up their first rifleman.

>>469937195
Don't need to lecture me, optimization is a laziness issue.

>>469937208
It's me who is insane and not people who think 40fps is perfectly acceptable for a vr game. Okay, makes sense.

>>469935696
Polygons are not what limits your fps on modern pcs. 70k is nothing.

Problem is with vrchat voice, IK, animators, VRAM useage, expensive shaders and tonns of drawcals. You can push milions of polygons on screen with no issue.

If vrchat had 1000 ppl limit per world I would advocate for forced used of impostors or lods, but we are not even close to that.

>>469937368
How can you keep posting that shallow garbage for long. I don't understand why would you even bother launching it more than two times let alone talk about it.

>>469937368
And here's one with the health bar above his head see if you can spot him.

>>469937509
>Polygons are not what limits your fps on modern pcs.
can someone actually show some proof of this in terms of unity/vrchat. i know with UE5 and shit it doesnt matter but thats not vrchat.

>>469937368
Wrong general. This is a VRChat thread.

>>469937683
I had a 1 million poly mesh snow with blendshales in my world and it performed the same as without the snow.

>>469937509
> You can push milions of polygons on screen with no issue.
You are not drawing solid color polygons. Every polygon drawn implies a texture lookup. Overdraw is a thing, gpus work in 2x2 grids, so even if the triangle covers only one pixels you have multiple texture lookups.
Shader pipeline change hurts too, which is what you are actually saying with "tons of drawcalls".


>>469937683
There is no proof because it's simply not true.

>>469937509
>>469937837
muh skinned meshes

no but seriously skinned meshes do more, but the real meat of why polygons are limited in VRC is because of the shapekey thing.

>>469937509
1000 people would not be very easily doable due to networking issues even if everyone had 6 poly sticks for avatars.

>>469938035
Easily doable with some optimizations. I see no reason why would that be hard.

>>469935268
Devs wouldn't start using it anyway. You undermine any mechanical cosmetic customization or cosmetic monetization when people can just import a fully clothed model straight into the game. Scaling hats, backpacks and equipment slots to all the possible player avatars is an added development challenge for little meaningful gain because the people who demand this feature the most are unlikely to leave their chosen platform in the first place.

>>469937981
Shapekey thing is not a thing anymore, unity fixed performance issue with shapekeys which affect onky part of the mesh

>>469937557
Monkey brain enjoys shooting at stuff in singleplayer, scratches a weird itch hopefully I recover soon. Good to listen to podcasts to as well.

>>469938140
You get back to me when 1000 individual audio channels functions well

>>469935268
VRM exists

>>469938195
Yah and guess what VRC didn't change in 2022. Hint: the fucking performance tiers. 69,999 polygons: Good! Wow!
70,001 polygons: Very poor, fuck you, die.

>>469937816
How does this look even worse than lasers.

>>469938371
Its good, just dont put your frozen ball on grass.

>>469938371
It's fun but the cube is unpredictable. It's reasonably easy to make progress unlike the lasers where if you miss you have to start again.

>>469938342
You don't need 1000 individual audiochannels. You sample and combine by proximity. I don't think you would need more than 30 total.
That's basic audio engineering.

>>469938552
But my spatial audio.

>>469938813
Personally I'd just play the closest ones. Who can hear 1000 voices at once anyway?

>>469938813
If done properly you wouldn't notice any difference.
Human hearing is not that precise. For example, in the movie industry, audio designers know that humans can only distinguish up to 4 pair of footsteps, so if you just switch the individual channels to one "multiple people walking" track, people wouldn't even notice.

>>469938349
How many of you bought Dance Dash? Analytics site puts the game as having moved 200 copies since Dec 29 when the VRM update came out for a total of around 2000 owners.

>>469939434
It's really not the only game that supports it. Bonelab, primitier, uh, uh

How hard is it to make Contractors maps? I want to port some classic TF2 maps like toy fort or cyberpunk.

>>469943930
Look up HammUEr.
You can export entire source maps with other tools them import them into UE4 with HammUEr.
It can be a bit of work to fix every material and get the baked lighting looking good if the automatic brush-to-mesh converstion is messy.

>>469945081
>42 USD
Ehhh, I'll try getting used to UE4 for a bit before throwing money just in case.

>>469945081
>>469945545
Also another question: Is there a similar tool to port Source 1 maps to VRChat/Unity?

Bocchie in the fridge

>>469945725
You can import maps to real 3D software (Blender) then you can do everything

https://github.com/REDxEYE/SourceIO

>>469945545
I have an older 4.20 version of it I can upload if you want. It doesn't work directly on newer engine versions though, you'd have to use the convoluted process of using HammUEr on a 4.20 project, saving it then importing the UE4 project into 4.21 or whatever Contractors uses.

>>469946747
I said Source 1 to Unity because I expected that using Blender wouldn't get all the stuff that isn't meshes/materials but that looks good enough. I guess I need to do some extra stuff to load vanilla TF2 textures and props.

>>469948520
Forgot pic

>>469947778
Nah I don't mind paying for it, just want to make sure I'll be able to make a decent map before dropping money.

>>469948520
it imports everything thoguh

>>469938361
bad faith argument; there has to be a polygon limit somewhere and 70k isn't unreasonably small
you are just using it as an excuse to be lazy and unoptimised

>>469951406
69,999 polygons is good
70,0001 polygons is very poor
If you don't see the problem with 1 polygon leaping 3 performance 'tiers' then you actually retarded and are actively looking for an excuse to complain about other people. Nigger I WROTE the fucking optimization guide.

>>469951597
Oh wow an extra 0 slipped in
whoops teehee

ok anyone else having trouble with the meta desktop app detecting a usb3 connection even with the official link cable?

>>469951597
Just remove those extra 2 tris

>>469951597
>69,999 polygons is good
Would have been "poor" but devs decided not to hurt feefees of nonoptimizelets and increased the cap of "good" to up to 70k which cannibalized the other tiers.

>>469952169
70k being the very poor limit is fine, just I want 69,999 to be poor, not good.

>>469951597
i believe that punishing anyone who doesn't pay attention to a very obvious benchmark with a cautionary "very poor" is justified, yes
cry about it

do i have to play vrchat every day to get friends or what? been playing on weekends for a few weeks and met some people but i always meet new people each time.
also do you have to be an anime girls to be accepted in vrchat circles? i've been playing as a fat duck and seem to be doing alright talking to people but most other people are anime. i really dislike being an anime character
will keep playing tho it's fun

>>469951597
I'm not sure why we couldn't just spread out poly tiers out if the 70k restriction no longer applies. Like 70k good for legacy purposes, 100k medium, 150k poor, 200k very poor. Something along those lines.

>>469952526
70k still applies

>>469952307
Should still be very poor. 50k should be poor.
This triangle inflation really got out of hand.

But honestly, this relative tier system is fucking retarded. There should be tiers in an ordinal scale, starting with tier 1 with up to 256 tris and one 512^2 texture, and gradually increasing for higher tiers, so everyone can filter based on their hardware.
Current system doesn't make any fucking sense.

>>469923926
>>469922197
I use to rock koss ksc-75, porta pros, and sennheiser hd600s all the time but since I bought some of the $10-$20 chifi iems I sold everything else. A lot of the ones now don't require deep insertion like the etymonics did. Personally just use moondrop Quarks right now for ease of use and cost $10 but you may look into something with bluetooth but the chifi iems often use the harman curve which is what i wanted out of headphones for a millenia.

>>469953009
The current system is very out of spec with the changes that happened with VRC over the last few years. It's generally why I avoid even referencing them; since the only real stat that matters is render time.

>>469953076
You don't want bluetooth garbage for vr, it's might be okay for music but the latency is terrible.

>>469953184
Render time is relative to the gpu. On different architectures, like the new chiplet design of amd for example, the same avatar could have drastically different render times.
Ordinal scale is needed if you want to reason abstractly at all.

>>469953756
For VRC the time it takes to process the animations and avatar logic also matter.

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>>469952526
>100k medium
What years of 30fps lobbies does to mf.

>>469954016
Irrelevant. Animation time is directly proportional to the number of vertices.

>>469954104
I remember when we told everyone not to go over 100k because that would split the meshes.

>>469954371
that was true up until the switch to unity 2022

>>469954547
No that was the blendshape issue. I'm pretty sure Unity supported high poly meshes since Unity 2018.

>>469954104
very poor being 100k might not be that bad, it would be nice for them to increase it. i always try to get my models under 70k, but if i cant then i just undo all decimation.
>>469954641
ah okay, yeah i wasnt too sure i know if it was talked about in 2022, so maybe the switch to 2019 fixed that.

VRchat will always run at 28fps. When we get better hardware, you retards will just make even worse trash.

>>469952371
>don't play anime
i've been told i seemed like a newfag because some of the avatars i use look like meme avatars since they don't fit the usual mold of hentai girls or tatmax boys.
been told by 3 or so people that the more time i spend in vrchat that i will inevitably create one. had another try to haze me in by giving me their backup.
still made tons of friends. i wouldn't worry about it. you'll just stand out and have a topic of discussion you won't be able to share with others since a lot of people are making their own avatar and your duck will be seen as low effort.

>>469954790
>very poor being 100k might not be that bad
Anything more than 50k should be "very bad", not "poor", straight up "bad".

>>469955314
right but i aint making shit from scratch, give me a tutorial on taking a booth outfit thats 150k polys and reducing that as low as it can please

Relative scale just needs to die.

>>469955463
>a booth outfit thats 150k polys
Post the wireframe and lets laugh at it together.

>>469937238
cute

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>>469955658
141k

>>469956113
>extensionshit

throw it in the trash

>>469956113
Jesus Christ

Anon played too many PS1 games as a kid and now he wants to fuck squares and triangles

>>469956858
>>469956113
And you just know there would be a base model under it which is another 150k+.
Letting you people author content was a fucking mistake.

>>469956113
>>469956858
the japanese really dont care about optimization

>>469957213
They've got frame generation built in their bug eyes

>>469957213
Why should they? The retards are going to buy it regardless, why do extra work.
I see booths getting to 1m triangles by 2030 easily.

>>469956183
>>469956858
>>469957162
>>469957213
i managed to get it about half that, but with my base it makes it still just over 100k polys in total, 6 materials down to 2, and like 40MB VRAM in total.

>>469957162
I wouldn't go that far. But keeping the easy to bypass hard poly limit, just increased, would be good. Old Booths like first Quiche respected it.

>>469953076
It's insane how good and cheap chifi is, how the hell do they do it?

>>469956113
>native sculpt
>it's all triangulated
Alternatively they made something, roughly fitted it, and used the cloth sim to give it creases, then called it done.

Low poly event then?

Unironically, Low Poly event when? There is nothing better to teach newfags about avatar optimization.
If you can make a good 256 tris avatar, you would easily make a good 30k avatar.

>>469960636
fumo event gave a glance how it is when everyone has an optimized avatar

>>469960636
>30k
Too easy. Don't even need to touch one of my main avatars.

Need ideas for the map.

>>469961140
Something from another chibi JRPG like Dragon Quest IX/Monster.

>>469960636
I'd enjoy this but I don't think you'd get more than a handful of people making a low poly avatar from scratch. Someone would have to provide a base to work with

>>469961082
Most of the people here struggle to get sub 100k.

>>469920615
>immersive flat game with no hud
>shoot full auto from the hip
>bullets spray out in a cone
>one bullet hits by luck
>can't remember if my gun is loaded or not
>have to figure out what arcane key combination it is to chamber check
>see something cool
>try to crawl on the ground or crouch to get the right angle to look at it
They honestly just can't compete. Shooters especially are just too good in vr. Almost feels like apples and oranges because of how different it is.

>>469960954
What was the fumo base model triangle count?

>>469960020
for me, over ear headphones could never get a seal with even glasses arms breaking the seal as well as medium length hair. That would automatically tank the bass response.
Also all the headfi expert fags wanted true neutral too because that's what the 'engineers' use as opposed to harman response which has studies backing that the majority of listeners prefer the tuning. The only offshoots they found was some men, usually younger, prefer 1-2 db more bass and I think it was women and elders typically wanted 1-2 db less bass or more of the upper.
Since the measuring systems became widely available, it removed the headfi experts from their subjectively 'objective' mantle and also gave the chinese companies the tools to make drivers that followed the response curve without compromise.
If I recall the guy at Sennheiser, Axel, was tuning by ear initially. Sennheiser only comes out with a new HD series headphone like every 5 years anyways
HD 580 (1993) HD 600 (1997), HD 650 (2003) HD 700/800 (2009), HD 800s (2015).
People keep putting hopium that Sennheiser will release an orthodynamic driver since it's been able to fill in some of the shortcomings in over ear headphones but sennheiser just was bought out anyways so probably hopeless. And as you can see the chifi stuff has exploded in a few years showing how far behind the old faithful's are in keeping up.
You can buy the super uncomfortable hifimans but I don't see the point of buying several hundred dollar head crusher chi fi when you can buy several of the iems for much less.

>>469962251
6610 tris The hair I added had more than that

>>469960323
>>469960636
we literally just had a low poly event you retards.

>>469962480
>headphones
>bass
lmao
You use headphones with a dedicated sub.

>>469962251
6.6k. But coming to think of it many people adding their normal hair, clothes, accessories probably skyrocketed that. I made mine my quest fallback though.

>>469962638
We never had an explicit low poly event.

>>469960636
thinly veiled fetish event

>>469962638
A 256fes event would be nice anyway but I'm too brainlet to model or paint textures from scratch.

>>469962942
It's true. I cum to high fps, I admit it. Rock solid 120hz just makes me cum, I just can't help myself.

>>469963016
We can have multiple tiers. Something like 0x100 (256), 0x400 (1024) and 0x1000 (4096).
It might be too hard for newfriend to make 256 tris right away, but the option should be there for people who want to challenge themselves.

>>469960636
>30k avatar
Make it 1k at the absolute max. Pic related I'm tempted to just buy, rig, and distribute for the event. It'll allow people a retard mode where all they have to do is use pose mode to get it roughly shaped the same as their base (with clothes), bake on the textures, and then make some retarded low poly replacement for their hair with like an isosphere and delete some faces or something.

>>469963686
Lunatic: 0x100 (256)
Normal: 0x400 (1024)
Easy: 0x1000 (4096)

What about the textures and the skinning though?

>>469963686
>Pic related I'm tempted to just buy
I wouldn't buy anything imo, this is the perfect opportunity to learn. We can make it ourselves, it's not that hard.

>>469963990
Just bake 'em.

The reason most people don't optimize isn't a polygon issue. It's just that they do not know how to use blender.

>>469954902
this
>>469954938
yea i guess. i just won't play with anime because i don't like those avatars. duck is like my brand too almost, people call me duck

>>469964345
>bake
It's going to be scuffed.
But I'm talking about the texture resolution.

>>469964345
>2011+13
>Still using Blender 2.79

>>469964413
You don't learn how to optimize by making 1m+ models. Low poly events are the perfect opportunity to learn.

>>469964641
anon that webm is from 2020.

I still use 2.79 in 2024 and i won't stop soon

>>469964961
Lunatic: tris 256 (0x100), texture 256x256 (0x10000 pixels)
Normal: tris 1024 (0x400), texture 512x512 (0x40000 pixels)
Easy: tris 4096 (0x1000), texture 1024x1024 (0x100000 pixels)

>>469964326
True. I just found some snotty nosed south african kid doing a youtube tutorial on making a low poly body mesh and I'm gonna follow it. I'll make some recordings as I go and see if I can figure out a retard-proof/friendly way of making it yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8-y3TRcPQA&list=LL

>>469964413
100% this. I blame booth but I know the true cause is the fact that the bar for avatar quality has just slowly risen over time. Pic related what avatars generally looked like in 2018. No flashy shader stuff, low poly, mostly flat colour textures. At most you'd have your 2k albedo and either an emission map or a matcap for your material's texture slots. No normal maps or crazy masks and such. Now things are really highly detailed. It's no surprise things are really intensive on your computer.
If everyone learned how to join meshes, bake textures, rearrange UVs, and just generally trim the fat, and worked it into their usual workflow for making an avatar, it wouldn't be bad at all. However with booth it's all set up to just be slapped together with automated tools in unity. No one even knows the first thing about making a low poly avatar.

>>469966434
holy shit sekko

>>469966434
sekko....

>>469954038
chess https://vrch.at/asxpgbg4

>>469966709
>>469966951
it's been 5 years anon, you have to move on

>>469966434
>No one even knows the first thing about making a low poly avatar.
This is the problem. But it is solvable. We just need to make low poly cool again.
You can do a lot if we just utilize all the tools, we don't *need* to use flatcolor shaders too, if the models are thin, it's open up the gpu performance for other stuff.
The screenshot is also unflattering because it's simply too low res.

>>469967135
>when the low poly model guy complains because the screenshot doesn't have enough resolution

>>469967318
HAHAHAHAHA

>>469967318
>>when the low poly model guy complains because the screenshot doesn't have enough resolution
I'm just saying that the comparison is unfair. You can make those models look as good as the today's models by just changing the shader and the increasing the rendering res.

flat lit toon my beloved

>>469968735
S....

Nice racism, racists!