tl; dr
Pico 4 is still the best PCVR headset
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tl; dr
Pico 4 is still the best PCVR headset
>>489858731
shill me on the pico 4 vs the quest 3 (my last headset was a cv1 lmao)
i'm already half sold on the pico on account of it not being facebook, but im concerne the controllers/tracking might be a shit on the pico 4 since it seems like theyre focusing on the display
Play Dance Dash!
https://streamable.com/2d7658
This world is a homage to 5cm per second asit's 5 frames per second
>>489858964
They're both good headsets but the quest 3 is superior. The main sell for a pico 4 is the much lower price, especially looking at the used market.
>>489858964
Pico 4 literally has the same CPU and GPU, screens and lenses (very good), but is more balanced, the default strap and audio doesn't suck, microphone is actually almost index level instead of meta crap. And Pico Connect just fucking works, and works extremely well. Up to 1000 megabits in h264 (usb recomended tho).
Controllers are fine as for "hmd camera based tracking". You will not be able to put it behind your back.
If you are interested in standalone games then Quest still has way more of them.
Also Pico Trackers 2.0 next month -ish, which seem to be IMU + optically tracked, and most likely will be the best and cheap FBT solution
>>489859361
>quest 3
>superior
>shit strap
>shit audio
>shit microphone
>meta crap
How is it superior?
>inb4 it's an american with sour grapes syndrome
>>489859361
>The main sell for a pico 4 is the much lower price
yeah thats what caught my eye, ~400 bucks for a very decent hmd is attractive
>>489859370
>You will not be able to put it behind your back.
its a shame but i dont think anyones doing mid-tier lighthouse stuff
miss my cv1 sometimes
>interested in standalone games
does anyone actually play those? last time i used the oculus store it was all pretty meh mobile tier stuff, and it seems like all the interesting stuff is PC + mods
>>489858581 (OP)
Cool
>>489859370
>Pico 4 literally has the same CPU and GPU
Pico4 has the same SOC as the Quest2 (XR2), but the upcoming Pico4S/5 will likely have the same SOC as the Quest3 (XR2 Gen2)
Wait for August 20th announcement in any case
>>489859464
none of those are better on the pico 4, that still has shit audio and shit mic. and shit strap doesnt really matter because theres a ton of aftermarket straps for quest.
and pico crap software is far worse than meta.
>>489859312
lmao
>>489860465
>pico shit audio/shit mic
LMAO It's got a microphone which runs around all meta devices just like index
Audio sounds perfectly adequate, unless you're an audiophile.
Pico 4 strap is unironically all you need, unlike Quests and quest pro.
Airlink is know to be shit software, and all quest user complain every second update. You either use SteamLink which limits resolution or pay some tranny for shitty VD. While Pico Connect just works out of the box and has decent presets and configuration options. If you need more you got opensource ALVR
SoC doesn't matter that much anyway, who's gonna play standalone games lmao.
American questlet tears lmao
>>489860465
A Pico4 running Quest software is all I really wanted from the Quest3
Shame they had to ruin it with shitty vignetting and poor overlap.
All options suck
>>489861048
I can trust this certainly unemotional and unbiased opinion.
>>489861101
Just listen how french J microphone sounds like and tell me what's better Quest Pro microphone or Pico 4.
>>489861072
Pico 4 doesn't have vignetting
Also, barely seen in any headsets, motorized IPD adjustement with a giant range of 59 - 72.
Why some small chinese indie company makes the best hardware?
>>489861601
The Quest3 does
>>489861759
I wish I could have automatic IPD cause I have no fucking clue what mine even is, and I doubt my family knows theirs either
>>489862468
you can easily give it an approximate measurement with a mirror and a ruler
https://www.vive.com/eu/support/vive-xr/category_howto/how-can-i-find-my-ipd.html
>>489858731
The Index is still the loudest headset
does headset audio matter if i have decent wireless buds/audiophile iems?
>>489862004
noooo anikiiiii.He died for our sins
>>489863038
depends how much delay they have
>>489863145
well the wireless ones are cheap aliexpress ones and probably have shit latency but dont most headsets allow you to plug in wired?
>>489863038
No. I use my own headphones even with the Index because I don't like the off-ear speaker meme.
>>489846057 (Cross-thread)
They're so cute vros...
>>489859370
>Pico 4 literally has the same CPU and GPU, screens and lenses (very good)
It does not, cpu/gpu is weaker for now but p4s/p4ultra will.
Screen on p4 is really good and have better fov in my opinion, but some people prefer the Q3's colors and lenses. Even if they are both pancake it's not exactly same
Everything else I agree though, only thing I'm jealous of from quest is the iobt for elbows, but considering we're getting pico fbt trackers soon I think we're still eating good
>>489840249 (Cross-thread)
ggwp mates, nice exploring with you. till next time~
>>489863251
most headsets have either audio jack or USB-C, but you'd want a usb-c hub with power pass-trough to charge while playing
>>489863313
>Q3's colors
ive seen this mentioned a bunch, does "colors" mean like higher contrast, higher max saturation? or like the default color temperature settings
>>489861048
>LMAO It's got a microphone which runs around all meta devices just like index
no, pico sounds nothing like the index lmfao
what the fuck are you talking about. the only other headset to come close to index microphone quality is the Beyond.
>>489863547
all of the above, mostly
but just color accuracy and contrast of LCD displays arent great, only OLEDs have good colors and brightness
>>489863547
I honestly don't know, when I tried the quest 3 at work I found it pretty underwhelming color-wise for both VR and passthrough compared to xr elite (was comparing them side by side)
It honestly makes little sense in my opinion since q3 doesn't have local dimming like qpro
Also q3 had a really weird screenshape, the fov is roughly the same as p4, but the edges of the screen makes an octogon which feels unnatural
>>489863145
The problem with most Bluetooth headphones is that they only support SBC audio, which is the same codec Bluetooth debuted with back in 2003, with a latency of ~200ms.
The good news is that we now have BLE Audio with LC3. The bad news is that very very few headphones support it, and even fewer phones/computers. Windows 10 doesn't support it either, win11 required.
However! /some/ SBC headphones have a low latency mode, which in my experience gets you pretty much wired latency.
Got the one pair of LC3-capable open-ear earbuds I could find ( not that I can use it on win10), and now use them all day outside of VR too.
>>489863631
index>beyound>Pico>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>quest2/3>vive>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>quest pro
>>489864012
just add a few extra > between beyond and pico then youve got it right
>>489864098
index>beyound>>>Pico>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vive xr elite>quest2/3>vive (all others)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>quest pro
so where do i actually buy a pico 4 in the US
there's an online listing on... the walmart website?
>>489864329
index>beyound>>>Pico>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>vive xr elite>quest2/3>vive (all others)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>quest pro>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MUTALK
Because of sudden Quaking yesterday, Real VR Fishing will happen tonight, at 19:00 GMT.
>>489864329
>>489864475
vive xr elite mic was really bad, wouldn't put it over quest 2/3 honestly
>>489864439
newegg or aliexpress apparently. Might as well go for pico 4 pro for eye/face tracking
EUs have Pico 4 in any computer shop with 2 year EU warranty.
>>489843456 (Cross-thread)
lmao, newfag is a natural. Will fit in nicely with everyone here
>>489864763
>eye/face tracking
while im more fine with the chinese having my data than facebook, im not THAT much more comfortable to use those kinds of features
only seems useful if you live in VRChat anyway
i saw some anon say wait until august 20th, or is that just a TWO MORE WEEKS-ism
>>489845986 (Cross-thread)
page 2
>>489865053
>i saw some anon say wait until august 20th, or is that just a TWO MORE WEEKS-ism
it's actually real, https://x.com/PICOXR/status/1821124122006483091
https://www.androidheadlines.com/exclusive-leak-pico-4s-mixed-reality-headset
>>489865245
holy fukck,,,
>>489865053
You can block the headset on your router and it will never access outer internet.
Eye tracking is usefull as some games finally started to implement openxr foveated rendering standards
>>489865414
cant it just reach the outer net via your PC?
>>489865414
>as some games finally started to implement openxr foveated rendering standards
whoa, which ones?
>>489865053
Pico is gonna announce a new Pico 4 version, with better CPU/GPU, Wifi7, AV1 decoding, better pass-through, and ringless controllers. At least that what leaks say. On 20th we'll find out for sure what the Pico4S is.
I don't think it's going to be that much better for PCVR anyway.
>>489865245
>and they said Pico is closed, never will release anything and headsets are gonna be unsupported
>>489865510
WRC, Into The Radius 2. And some vario simulated support through https://github.com/mbucchia/Quad-Views-Foveated in Pavlov, Vail and DCS.
>>489865053
>>489864763
oh shit the pico 4 pro is 400 USD anyway... if the 4S is a nothingburger, buying a 4 pro from aliexpress is VERY tempting
>>489857038 (Cross-thread)
>>489861068 (Cross-thread)
OMG IT'S GOJIRA!
>i've got a bunch of rock CDs in this van over there
poor guy
>>489865790
>WRC
I thought WRC only has static foveated rendering, glad to hear it's actually working with eye-tracked headsets. Let's hope there will be more of that, sounds lovely to me
>>489865909
Don't believe her lies fattoman-kun!Go into my van instead I have the real rock CDs
>>489865836
The only downside with pro, is that you cannot get access to the store (pro is chinese only and requires some chinese ID to create an account) and need to run chinese firmware and pico connect.
You can get chinese versions here https://owomushi.com/Pico-Apps/
on other side, you can just connect pico to pc, it shows up as a storage device, and you can just drag and drop .apks and install them in headset without accounts or anything.
>>489866298
pico connect is how you do wireless, right? fuck, this is retarded
those crazy americans nuked hiroshima again!!
>>489866487
Pico connect is the SteamVR driver USB/Wireless connection app. Yes. You need PC and headset counterparts.
>>489866683
oh well, things like this will probably only get easier as people make workarounds like this, right? seems like only a minor headache
>>489866796
what do you mean "easier"?
Pico connect comes preinstalled on the headset, you install it on PC and it just works as long as you're on the same LAN
>>489867035
wait then why do i need to sideload stuff from here? >>489866298 unless youre talking about the non-pro version
>>489859216
multiplayer wen
>>489866570
>america nukes japan
>anime was made
>I enjoy anime
>america nukes japan again
YES. ANIME 2.0 here we come!
>>489867234
Just to reiterate.
Pico 4 non pro is a global headset. Comes with Pico connect preinstalled. On the PC you just get the PC counterpart on the pico website.
Pico 4 Pro is chinese only headset, without a chinese phone number you don't have access to the store, but the account is completely optional.
To update Pico Connect on the Pro without an account and to get chinese version of the PC software you get the installer and apk file on the owomushi website.
Don't worry, chinese firmware and software still has english language.
>>489867950
oh now i get it
thanks for spoonfeeding me anon
>>489864329
>>489864475
i'm on a quest 2, would a modmic be a nice upgrade?
>>489869216
Quest mikes are pretty meh but they're perfectly serviceable if you have headphones to prevent loopback sound. Modmic is honestly only needed for older Vives, XR Elite is decent.
>>489869216
Modmic refuses to innovate in any capacity, those pieces of shit are still using micro usb, don't give those jews any money
>>489869216
I've heard modmics and I'm like wow it sounds like you're using a vive (the vive does not have a good mic)(
>>489861048
+100 social credit score
>>489871323
ok zucc
I bought and played Astro Hunters so anons don't have to. Note that this is just "highlight" of my 30 minute recording since most of it was just running around empty planet.
For starters, VR interactions are pretty meh, they work but there's no feedback, haptics, everything is floaty. Also wrist menus have global colliders for some reason. Main gameplay loop is dropic on one single planet, volcanic, and harvesting resources nodes for upgrade materials and looting boxes for guns and mods and shit. It whole feels like Chinese knockoff of NMS with some Tarkov sparkled on top. Harvesting is just boring as you can see, looting is ass because of inconsistent grab points and distances and the single available planet is so small that you will see all of it in some 5 raids.
That leaves the combat part and oh boy, is it double ass. Guns have no attachements (coming Soon TM) so you're stuck with irons, even on snipers, but that doesn't matter because AI is braindead, it will rush in straight line and either engage in melee or shoot. Worst part is there's no reason to kill any NPCs aside from clearing path since they drop literally nothing. Can't comment about PvP since aside from first day after launch when some people were rushing extracts I haven't met a single person later.
That leaves progression and missions, missions are literally pointless and broken, they reward money or mods that you can get easier by just raiding, progression boils down to collecting X amount of Y to upgrade Z in obtuse crafting stations in hub where you have to fiddle with buttons and levers and menus.
Your base is right now just racks for storing stuff since there's nothing else to interact with.
TL;DR - this is slop of the highest degree and considering that there isn't even crossplay (coming Soon TM) it's already dead and effectively singleplayer shittier NMS.
Sign Language meet at the new time starts now!
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>>489859464
I own both and it's better in every way except comfort
>>489811792 (Cross-thread)
I find it funny that neither of the NA hosts even browse this thread anymore.
>>489859464
I also own both Q3 and Pico 4 Pro and the Q3 blows it out of the water in pretty much every way.
Agreed with the other guy that comfort is generally a bit better on the Pico 4, though there are a lot of third party straps and facial interfaces to choose from for Quest.
>>489873181
Try and find any NA that browses this thread any more
>>489873761
It's pretty easy if you stop looking at washed up oldfags who moved on to different communities years ago.
>>489873761
I do
>>489864439
can you order from amazon.jp? they sell it there
>>489873761
I'm NA and I'm online a lot but I have basically EU hours
>>489873872
I'm one of these but I still browse.
>>489859312
its nice i felt like an osananajimi
Don't have time today for ultimate swing gofl so if the goolfers want to goolf someone else has to host the room.
>>489875770
I completely forgot about it
Maybe next update
>>489866292Car CD collection time?
>>489858581 (OP)
/vg/ League Soccer Offseason:
On Saturday, August 24th, the /vrg/ soccer team will be combined into a random tag team with /mjg/ (Mahjong General), /kfg/ (Kemono Friends General), and /dbg/ (Dragon Ball General) to participate in the Randomized Tag Team Cup tournament lasting one weekend.
On Friday, September 27th @ 19:40 UTC/3:40pm EST, the /vrg/ soccer team will participate in their first scheduled friendly match against /dbg/ (Dragon Ball General)
On Friday, October 4th @ 18:20 UTC/2:20pm EST, the /vrg/ soccer team will send out TDA Miku to do battle against gacha Miku in the second scheduled friendly match against /psg/ (Project SEKAI General)
On Saturday, October 5th @ 21:00 UTC/5:00pm EST, /vrg/ will go up against /vgt/ (Gran Turismo General) in the Assetto Corsa vs Gran Turismo bowl.
VR watches will be scheduled @ 11:30pm EST on those nights.
>>489873761
>>489873872
Im still here since jan 2018. Ive been teying to branch out to no avail.
your 3rd screenshot caused this
Settlers of Catran in 45minutes from this post gamers!
9PM
>>489881156
based
>>489864534
Fishing in 30 minutes, sorry, no golf.
>>489872817
Fun meet, see everyone again next week for more sign language shenanigans
>>489883220
I liked him more when he was mute, what a insufferable NIGGER
>>489875770
Can you be an anime girl in ultimate swing golf?
>>489884202
It's Everybody's Golf sans the branding so yes.
Real VR Fishing NOW! EU lobby
Gone fishing
pass 1488
>>489881156
Lobby up! elayed due to me not being 100% sure how tf I start V with hybrid setup.
https://vrch.at/jammeecw
>>489887151
I gutted the battery out of the Quest 3 controller but it's still fucking tracking, need to restart VR, I be right back! Fuck this gay shit, Fuck Zucc, Fuck VD.
>>489887151
ok, im here again, lets go.
I can't host Mechwarrior 5 today, it's over
>>489881156
Guess /vrg/ is busy with other activities this sunday, so no Catan, lobbies closed.
>>489890774
everyones asleep retard
>>489891070
>asleep at 9pm
lmao
>>489892313
>time zones other than US central
>relevant
>>489883220
French should stay permanently muted.
>We have Just H party at home
Good VRChat picture museum map.
https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_4072330c-be87-453b-803d-2968e706aeef
>>489897029
how many of those people still play, do you think?
>>489901141
World was in new so everyone I guess?
A perfect run
>>489905229
>Terminal damage
NA anime tonight at 10 pm est in vrchat
https://rentry.org/i3t5ozt8
Yuru Camp S2 - 01
Yuru Camp S2 - 02
Shikanoko - 06
LoserHeroine - 05
Wait until 11 to join if you only want to watch the seasonals. Will continue lucky star, wolf, and na nare on wednesday
I hope the Deckard is real and has an OLED panel, PSVR2 looks too damn good
Can anyone either give me advice, coach me through this, or link a tutorial that I can use to learn some Unity?
I have an idea and I won't bore you with the details but since I am brand new to game dev I don't know how to bring it to life.
I just want a vrchat world where I can grab little tetrahedral shapes and click them together + side to - side and build long polymer chains out of them.
I have no experience with game dev, where do I even start?
>>489909703
https://creators.vrchat.com/worlds/creating-your-first-world/ is where you want to start; there are plenty of video tutorials out there too if you're zoomer-brained. For more targeted help, Claude/chatgpt are quite good at unity and gamedev, and they have infinite patience to explain things, even if they make shit up sometimes.
>>489866298
No you don't you can install global firmware on the Pro just like any other and get the Global store just fine.
>>489909703
there's a minecraft Avatar where you can place blocks in the world, you don't need an entire world
Avatar optimization problem:
I deleted "toggles" (outfits I could toggle on and off) from my avatar and imported a few new outfits to Unity. One of them I swapped to, and removed the old one. The size of my avatar, after I uploaded it, increased significantly. That's making me suspect that I've done something wrong. Do I need to delete inactive outfits in Unity? Do I need to delete them both in the Hierarchy tab and in the folder structure? I want to keep my file size as small as possible.
>>489912302
Just make sure they're not referenced anywhere in your avatar components and aren't in your avatar hierarchy and they should be omitted from uploads
>>489912498
They were referenced in the toggles I had in the avatar expressions menu. I deleted the options and that menu disappeared (so now I don't have a menu option to swap clothes). But I didn't delete the animations in the folder structure, or the Expression Menu or Expression Parameter files.
>>489912713
Toggles are only part of it, make sure they aren't in your avatar's hierarchy and none of the materials are referencing their textures etc.
>>489912302
Mark what you dont want as "Editor Only" and it wont be uploaded.
>>489912986
>>489913781
You have enlightened me, Anons. We're so back. Down to 23 mb download now.
blade and sorcery water is looking real nice
>>489914513
MARIO WiiU is that you
>>489911843
thank you anon
I'm doing some server testing of a new minecraft/vivecraft modpack tonight, in the next few hours or so. If you're interested to try it out, import https://file.vrg.party/crawler-packwiz-2024-08-08.zip into any of MultiMC/PolyMC/Prism Launcher as a new instance, which will autodownload all the mods you need and have the server set up in multiplayer already. This is a dungeon-crawling combat-focused pack, which I think will be more fun in VR than tech/building mods.
The server is already running, so feel free to login and kick the tires. Once I get on, we'll do some more extensive testing to make sure the mods play nice with each other (and my tiny server cpu) . Don't get attached to anything in the world though, we'll likely regenerate it before the official launch.
If you're interested but don't have the autism to download my just trust me bro modpack zip, we'll have better instructions and more info about what's in there when everything is finalized. Hopefully in the next week or so.
>>489915942
nice, make sure to backlink to the OP so a baker puts it in the new OP whatever you cook up
jack one of those and you can finally have decent frames in a /vrg/ event instance
>>489918697
isn't rtx4090 export controlled (military use)
>>489918775
Yea, its the lower performance versions
>>489873181
You sure? I see there avatars posted here from time to time still. They still browse surely.
3 months ago Inval posted with an avatar of himself.
C posts for their excercise sessions regularly
>>489918697
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/gpus-get-a-boost-from-pcie-attached-memory-that-boosts-capacity-and-delivers-double-digit-nanosecond-latency-ssds-can-also-be-used-to-expand-gpu-memory-capacity-via-panmnesias-cxl-ip
dont hold your breath but possible future where PCIe VRAM extentsion cards exist
>>489873872
"Easy"
I literally posted here on who can help host and only one guy dm'd me or replied to the post where I was looking for hosts
>>489919214
AHAHHA YES. YES.
THIS IS THE BEST NEWS IN COMPUTING I HAVE HEARD IN 8 YEARS
>>489875637
Cute, can I be your kouhai senpai?uwu
>>489919131
i talked with I recently and he said he rarely browses. The bar instance every friday it took 6 months for him to realize it was a thread event when i mentioned it. Take that as you will
>>489919131
They do not browse here, they do not post here.
I has actively said he does not come here anymore. Halo boys are their own community with their own furry meet-ups.
C does not even post the workout posts anymore, even when he did it was obvious he didn't read the thread and only came here to ritual-post advertise his workouts which were filled with furries and trannies from his own community.
You are out of touch, as always.
>>489919379
X-to doubt
Pcie is too slow to be usefull
>>489919848
Hmmmm. Rarely might be peaking in once a month and if it's on a set date only he looks it would be understandable he'd miss your weekly bar instance. But yeah it would be ideal if he and everyone else more closely follow the thread as us daily. It's nice and warm knowing you're here with us anon. Thank (You) for keeping the house warmIt's a bit too late to change hosts now. Let's just take this hosting he'll be doing this Aug 17 as an invitation to re-integrate more readily into the thread community shall we?Hosts are changed every FBF for one of the purposes of getting different segments of the /vrg/ population engagedAnd I always appreciate anyone who takes the call to hosting. Few are readily willing
>>489920819
>Hmmmm. Rarely might be peaking in once a month and if it's on a set date
why are you making up all these random excuses that you don't even know to be true?
just accept he doesn't browse.
>>489920819
>inb4 he shows up because someone mentioned we're talking about him to "prove something"
right after he found out about it being a thread event he said and affirmed what >>489919885
said, stating something about he doesn't need to come here anymore
good on him for that, not shitting on him for it but its bothersome that he's a host
if he ends up being able to vet and not allow his rando friends he's accumulated over the years to slip through then at least he'll be honest to the intent of the event. but i have my doubts
The FBF jannies kick the randos, not the hosts. The hosts are the anchor that gets the instance rolling and everyone organized on time, but the continuous vetting and kicking of randos is not their responsibility.
>>489919885
see >>489920819 and >>489919369
>>489920938
I can't readily accept that when I recently just saw him avatarfag with a post of his 3 months ago. They may be quite rare but not rare enough to be out of my alumni-vrg threshold at least. 6 months of not browsing here is a lenient take and they're not beyond saving yet! A few more incentives to be back with us and they'll be posting back here daily surely.
also It's fine. Next fbf, the hosts rotate and we'll find newer ones from another corner of the community
>>489529842 (Cross-thread)
Do you need those dongles for it to work?
>>489919369
woops actually it was two people who contacted. one from NA (jannie) and one from EU(host). Still a good hit rate for willing help without me manually contacting.
Threadly Dirt Rally 2.0 reminder, we're running 2000cc in Finland.
This one goes through next Monday (8/19), so you still have plenty of time to get a run in.
Club link and VR fixes are in the OP rentry if you're interested.
This will probably be the last event now that WRC is starting up. I don't really think we need both.
are these any good anons? (q3 added so I could see the cost of everything together)
>>489926029
yes
>>489926029
note M3 batteries can't keep up with the q3
rather than charging it they just slow down the drain
Come play Mahjong at the old(new) parlor.
https://vrch.at/qytg8wk9
>>489927612
do you have a recommendation for batteries that can keep the headset charged?
>>489927763
I just went with the S3
if you want to stick with the M3 they do have a kit that lets you use the better batteries with it
Do I look cool?
>>489928132
No. TDA trash. Honesty is important anon. Now go be better
>>489928213
What is TDA?
>>489927916
danke anon danke
>>489927714
https://vrch.at/g7hnwy7x
back to nakanishi..
>>489927714
had to move to Nakadashi
lighting sucked
>>489928547
It's these god ugly things which all rook the same that is made by deviant-art fags now turned gumroad
>>489928887
All three of those look different though. I still don't know what TDA stands for.
>>489928132
You look like you just started playing for the first time 3 hours ago.
>>489929071
So I like like I haven't wasted my life on this game? Perfect.
>>489929064
you'll notice them soon enough the more you play the game
>>489928132
your face looks like it was left in the sun for too long, and the clothes are bland and washed. But I like the hair!
>>489928663
2/4 2nd table
>>489929476
>your face looks like it was left in the sun for too long
Going outside and getting sun is cool right?
>>489929751
i meant it looked melted and deformed
>>489929064
They look different because of different textures, materials, and shaders. They all share the same face mesh (with some minor edits, the western variant has thicker lips. Ithink it was first introduced into the ecosystem by mini lena). Also Tda doesn't stand for anything, it's the name of the artist who made the original model (it's an mmd miku model)
>>489858581 (OP)
:: FRIEND BY FRIEND REWIND - /vrg/ Shuffler Event | August 17 ::
Friendships form well with the spice of fun and games. A little bit of BEFRIENDING requiring cooperation or competition and play amongst each other breeds an atmosphere of ease and comradery.
5 minutes at a time with another anon in a room 1 on 1 while everyone gets shuffled round robin style until everyone in the room gets matched up.
Build NEW and OLD friendships alike through around the whole town/city and unexpected locations with people you usually don't get to talk with.
Question/Action cards are available on the table in the middle for when you don't know what to talk about. Currently there are 2008+ cards from 2019+2020+2021+2022+2023 valentines.
(Looking for more questions/actions when possible, so please reply to this post on a question you think might be good for breaking the ice or continuing conversations)
SHITPOST central - the thread is there to see and shitpost across instances and matches
NEW ITEM System - Click the Dice on the table to get more items (120 sec cooldown)
And as always, hope everyone have fun with each other and forge great friendships after the event!
Friend by Friend - SEA - 5PM GMT+8 August 17
Friend by Friend - EU - 19:00 UTC August 17
Friend by Friend - NA - 10:30PM EST August 17
5 matches > 1 group round > 5 matches > 1 group round > 5 matches > 1 game round > RECESS
then the cycle repeats
P.S. Please add these lovely people as our hosts for this season of friending
NA:InvalidumandDefinitely Not A Cat
EU:KarkeysandPhyxa
SEA:fanisk
>>489930219
that's pretty metal
In about 2 hours and 30ish minutes Poker WILL be attempted. This time in that new vrc map that people were kind of playing this weekend rather than in Poker stars/ Vegas infinite, no tox mod to ban us for saying bad words. I will post a link and my name to join off when the time comes
>>489930301
He's an artist? Why are people saying he's trash?
>>489930829
People took his creation and edited it into the swathe of western IMVU second life avatars that now permeates VRChat.
>>489930818
midnight ET in other words btw
>>489930818
ooh i love poker ill try my best to join!
>>489931096
Why don't they just make their own instead of editing his?
>>489931340
the same reason they refuse to optimize and walk around with 500+ megabyte uncompressed avatars
>>489931483
because they don't know how?
>>489931340
After awhile some did, and uploaded them to Gumroad, which is a site for western artist trash.
But they're all "copy my homework but change it a little bit so the teacher doesn't find out" tier so they still have TDA-face-but-worse.
>>489930829
I don't think they're referring specifically to his work, just the way people have used it. It was originally only intended for the MMD community, specifically so people could dress Miku up in novel outfits and make their own music videos. It made the jump from mmd to vrchat because in the early days MMD models were one of the only widely available sources of 3d character models that looked good and had proportions suitable for embodiment in VR. Gamerip models are bad for that. Also, unlike other anime models (like booth models) it has a topology on the face that affords being trivially turned into a western style anime avatar. You can throw a matcap on it and it winds up looking like an anime-ified living creature instead of a drawing. Also it had a face shape that happened to land in just the right sweetspot for a powerful superstimulus effect, moreso than pretty much every other avatar in existence. It got wildly popular, to the point of near dominance. This has made some people very angry. Also some people just don't like the western anime style, they prefer fullbright face shading and an avatar that looks like it's a literal drawing
>>489931340
That has started to happen, actually. A lot of the Tda edit avatars are old, from before newer generations of western anime avatar components were available. They didn't start becoming available though until Tda got big mad about people selling edits of his work (and also because people were making erp avatars with his work). This created an incentive for the avatar market to adjust.
>>489926029
>>489927612
>>489927612
>>489926029
NTA but I own both the new and old chargers on the M3. M3 will actually after several Q3 updates charge on wireless in my experience or at minimum stay power neutral. It was a problem earlier on with the quest 3 but I used the older batteries/cradle for months and never experienced actual battery drain while plugged in. The Q3 on release had issues with power negotiation but as far as I can tell it's completely fixed. The same issue used to happen on link cables as well but it seems fine these days. That said if you can afford it getting the newer strap or the conversion kit imo is worth it because 2x10000 batteries means you're pretty much never running out of juice on wireless ever. I just made the switch recently to the new batteries and it's nice never worrying. Previously I'd use two of the older batteries on the dock they sell and I thought it was a completely acceptable experience though if you were planning to be in vr for 6+ hours then you'd need to alternate charging them and after a long time you'd run dry (usually approaching the 7-8 hour mark). Also keep in mind the charging dock will not work with the old and new batteries and neither will the cradles.
>>489931727
Where can I find an avatar similar to that white hair cat girl that is not TDA or copying him?
>>489932660
this is the only place? is there anything else?
>>489931846
>A lot of the Tda edit avatars are old, from before newer generations of western anime avatar components were available
Yeah where do I get the new generation avatars?
>>489932285
thank you anon, ill definitely go for the newer batteries when i can
>>489932494
https://boothplorer.com/
this helps too, since you can check popular bases and available outfits
>>489933256
gumroad, jinxxy, sellfy, or payhip
>>489933340
>>489933479
Ok I guess booth is the only place. I'll try to find something similar.
>>489933834
>Ok I guess booth is the only place.
skill issue
>>489928547
people here hate on tdas so they don't have to answer why they're using a booth model with the hair recolored. tdas are annoying when they have a lot of glitter and lights that cause lag in the game
>>489933834
if you want a furry, gumroad
if you want a very specific western style, gumroad
if you want a generic japanese style, booth
if you want to fit in here, booth
>>489934281
i don’t care about fitting in
>>489934217
mine didn’t have any glitter or lights
This one looks the most similar from what I've seen so I'll go with this one. The ears are on top and not on the side. They are also long and pointy.
>he didn't pick selestia
newfags alrite
>>489936004
You should use Shinra
You know I haven't bought an avatar in a while. Should I get Scented or Lasyusha?
>>489936004
Wolferia is a nice base yeah
For me, it's Moe.
>>489929520
2 tables both3/4 you hotspot join
Where my Velle bros at?
Use Chiffon.
>>489936004
post a throw away discord/email if you want the files for wolferia/clothing
>>489938096
what, lasyusha is only available unscented?
Use Maya, become a myagger
>>489938096
scented has terrible body and ugly hands
lasyusha is beautiful
>>489944347
Myo
there will never be another booth as good as eyo
>>489944631
E Y O S E X
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>>489933995
Ok Poker is staring NOW. JoinR Y D E Ror use this link https://vrch.at/kuy3uw5d to join. If you join just to hang thats fine too but try not to be too loud.
>>489933479
is zome worth it or should i get sio
poker night!
>>489945524
>I'M GONNA TROOOOOOOOON!
>>489948089
world name please? How's it handle ?
>>489948457
why are you asking for the name when you can just click the link
Hey bros, just got my quest 3 but I'm having issues connecting it wirelessly to my pc. When I try linking it, it detects my pc and can pair with it, but it ends up giving me an error saying i should restart the quest link app on my pc (which i have done multiple times) Been tinkering all night to no avail, any idea?
Going to host SRB2 Kart 2 on Monday at 8PM EST if anyone wants to do some Kart racing. Download the game+mods from https://mega.nz/file/y5MFFDQb#AxvHMDCI1TnpOfoB8jfWpr7L260JJqJQWueBaJskgO0
I added a few new characters including one with motorcycle mechanics, and a decent launcher.
>>489949496
Use steamlink
>>489945524
kino...
>>489948946
big lazy cant scroll up
>>489949496
what are you using to connect quest link/Virtual Desktop/steamlink ? Is your PC connected to your router via ethernet ?
>>489950947
that's not lazyness. That's retardedness anon. I'm sorry it might be terminal and we have to put you down
>>489949496
The general guide
>use either steam link or virtual desktop
>have a dedicated router for streaming to your quest plugged into your computer by ethernet
>make sure it's wifi6
>don't connect anything else to that router
>virtual desktop for the first time it'll need internet access as well but after that it won't
If you're doing all that then you're fucked I guess.
>>489951739
Wait please kill me first
Do I look cool now? I'm booth.
>>489952087
Much better. You are 100% cuter and 15% cooler
>>489948089
I fucking suck at poker so I already know not to come lmfao, have fun lads
>>489952087
wolf segs
>>489952087
Now customise it so you're not default.
>>489952087
Yes
Do you like boys?
>>489952349
No i want it default
>>489952484
No i am straight
>>489952841
We'll see about that. Anyway welcome aboard we like to explore worlds and drink and stuff
>>489949940
>>489951913
>>489951175
Okay, I just used steam link and it worked instantaneously and connected flawlessly. Thanks, but that's pretty odd. I guess quest link just doesnt work?
>>489953683
meta's new diversity hire interns are fucking everything up
>>489935017
booths are generally cleaner models than tdas. tda is outdated.
>>489944858
these pictures are always so zoomed out
>>489954059
Everyone has their favorite spots after all, gotta get them all in the pic.
>>489954223
Maybe updating the map so people are more incentivized to be nearer each other? Dunno if it's an anti-cuddle measure
mahjong was had, executions were held, gg until Friday :)
>>489953841
oh no! i wouldn't want my pixels to be out of date. how embarrassing!
>>489954324
>>489954059
Yeah, I didn't make the map in a way that allows for good pictures at all, not intentionally, but it's just not a priority when I make it. I have two separate screens for those who like different viewing angles, plus a narrow depth of the viewing space that makes it hard to fit the camera in there. I should be improving the seating, for many more reasons than just the group photos. I have a bad habit of putting aesthetic first and forgetting practicality and everything else
>>489936004
Change the body to Selestia
>>489954480
how do you see the tiles with those bangs
>>489957676
the heart of the tiles.
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im such a loser and everyone from the real world think im gay can i hangout with you guys?
>>489958656
Ofcourse anon. You are welcome here
>>489958656
absolutely
>>489958656
Yeah you'll fit right inmy ass
>>489958656
sorry anon you have to be this tall to ride
>>489945524
>>489948089
That was some good poker-ing. Playing in vrc with this prefab worked pretty well. Its mostly automatic like in pokerstars
>>489931096
you are now remembering that the miku vore video exists
>>489960815
:( shut up your now manually breathing
>>489960354
poker bros we are so fucking back
>>489955293
why don't you just group together before taking the photo?
>>489963043
Maybe they all stink?
>>489963043
I try to just take it candidly while everyone is watching instead of bothering them all to pose for the photo. It's not a special event or anything it doesn't need everyone to put extra effort into getting their picture taken
>>489965079
The solution is clear. Reduce the car size so you all are basically gif related
>>489965079
"group together for a photo"
approximate time: 10 seconds
>>489966037
baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me no more
>>489956113
No thanks
>>489966875
You have to go back
>>489966037
Oh hey I've gone to raves with that cutie, always nice seeing you F :3
>>489966875
If you're 40 and playing videogames but somehow don't have a PC that can handle a headset you are a genetic failure and should off yourself, even my grandfather in his 70's have VR ready machines before he past on
>>489966964
I was there when the north Koreans attacked
>page 9
surprising number of fox pics bump
>>489967171
Old people don't buy gaming PCs. Neither do young people. They use iPads, laptops or smart phones.
>>489972481
ipad users are not people
>>489957894
what were the settings you recommended yesterday to improve VR performance? was it just disabling AA in Nvidia control panel?
>>489973231
Disable AA in game (set it to LOW)
The trees are still shimmery but at least it's not the worst thing you've ever seen
>>489973231
Ignore my previous posts (unless you feel like exploring different options), I don't think it was a good idea. Currently I'm just playing on high settings preset, with AA on high, and then I simply accept blurry AA, I believe that's the best way to do it given that reducing AA introduces horrible, horrible pixelated shimmering trees and surfaces. Of course, feel free to play around and pick your favorite take on it. You can also work around blur to some degree by increasing headset resolution scale, but all in all, I don't think my original idea of trying to play with no AA was a worthwhile route that I can recommend.
But I'd be very grateful if you could try out forcing g-sync and vsync off in nvidia control panel and report back on whether you feel like it reduced minor stutters or not. I did that and I still can't tell if it's a genuine improvement, or just a placebo. I'm pretty sure I've seen frame time spiking in chart until switched those two settings off in nvidia control panel, but no hard promises.
>>489973280
>>489973943
thanks I'll check out the options and play around with it.
in regards to Gsync I'm willing to try. I admit I've never even considered turning that off for VR stuff and my global settings are for it to always be on, since I've got gsync monitors.
Does it reduce VR performance typically? (not specific to this game i just mean in general)
>>489975732
Not in general, no. It was just a random guess because I saw spikes in frame time chart, and switching that made spikes go away, but at the same time there are so many little variables that could cause same thing and change between game launches that I'm not sure. Looking forward to your info on whether it changed anything for you or not.
Anyone here have Survival Nation and want to play it with me Monday evening, friday or saturday?
Bought it to play with a friend but they snaked me after playing it 3 times.
Can start over at lvl 1 as I'm only lvl 10 or something.
>>489977367
This thing?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2153780/Survival_Nation/
I've never heard about it until now, but it feels surprisingly down my alley at a glance. If you want to, I could buy it, join you on friday (as long as it's moderately early EU hours, say 6-8pm UTC), and see how I like it.
>>489978517
Yes, it's extremely casual as far as vrfps go. You can shoot zombies, fish etc.
Gameplay is mmo like, go to area X kill 10 zombies, go back. Get levels, increase skills.
Go to area Y, catch 4 fishes, go back etc. It has manual reloading with limited ammo. Can probably play today or this friday, I'm home at like 6pm UTC mondays and fridays.
>>489978787
Sounds good. Then, I'll buy it and will be on the look out for a lobby posted here on friday somewhere after 6p.
assuming you can have a public lobby with a name and password or URL in this game. Is this how it works?
>>489978998
Not sure, I was thinking we just organize it in VRG steam group, where there is also VC.
>>489979064
Also works for me.i never used a steam group system in my life and i've no idea where exactly should i look for info. if no one shows up, it'll most likely mean i've got lost, feel free to poke meat[/spoiler]
>>489930382
>Definitely Not A Cat
?????
why? they do not even come to vrg or associate with vrg as a whole anymore?
>>489979848
Guess how I can tell you don't go to meets either
>>489979575
Join steam group, jump in VC. Nobody uses the steam group anymore except me. It should be in OP.
Is Meat a mispelling or a hint?
>>489980023
Meat is exactly meat, it's my nickname, to the letter. I've joined a minute ago, so maybe for some reason I'm not visible on the list yet.
>>489980023
The term is the name lmao
>>489980131
Im at work now lmao.
>>489980138
It's backwards, I know who the guy is.
>>489979940
I was at the meets all weekend you stupid fuck.
Cat rarely comes around because their feefees got hurt because they are a tranny, they sometimes join to say hello to like 2 people and then leave.
Do you really think they are going to know who to kick during an event? do you really think they will stick around for longer than an hour? do you really think they would even be a big bad and moderate people regardless?
no, so shut the fuck up tranny
>>489980624
ive seen cat 7 times in over a year in game
just 7.
>>489980624
nta, hosts are not in charge of being jannies(Speaking of 4chan jannies are retarded niggers who should kill themselves)
This has been discussed already, the jannies are going to be regulars and roaming, the hosts are incharge of getting the instance running, people together and whatnot
>>489981663
I think I've seen him once this year in total and I've been on every weekend.
With the amount of people complaining about the hosts not being part of the community anymore, and the fact that neither of them have come here to reply to the criticism, I think it's rather obvious neither of the hosts consider themselves /vrg/ so I don't know why they accepted the position to begin with.
>>489982398
>Hosts has never been the main guys who kick, they help get the instance started and setup but they can also help if they want to. It's the jannies who kick. Jannies roam around both instances and they have already been chosen.
You're stuck on a non-issue, they're literally just a user end-point and nothing else.
>>489983098
>they're literally just a user end-point and nothing else.
A user end-point that doesn't browse the thread or consider themselves a part of the community.
It just doesn't really make any sense
>>489983264
I've hosted events for groups I'm not apart of either, you're just there to make sure shit is set up and works. Either way the event is literally made for you to make friends and get to know people better, sounds like you both can use it.
Maybe you'll be more friendly and they'll go to more events.
>>489983429
maybe one day you'll learn to stop making stupid fucking decisions yuki
we can only hope
>>489983429
>they'll go to more events.
you and i both know that wont happen. their lot in life isn't spending time browsing this shithole anymore, its come and gone.
>>489983429
You're so naïve and out of touch that it hurts to read.
Yeah you guys definitely need to make more friends.
>>489983782
oi that wasn't me. Don't assume everyone replying is me. I'm busy making a new room and debugging stuff
I'll reply properly once my head is not too tired anymore
can't wait to be matched with halocord furries and cat's trannycord friends!
Anyone posting here is mentally disabled you are all toxic and terrible fucks to each other the hosts are smart for avoiding this place and dropping one post about an event once a month
>toxic
you have to go back.
>have common watering hole to go to
>shoot the shit and have fun with everyone else at the watering hole
>years go by and some people rarely come to the watering hole, if ever
>someone hosts a party at the watering hole
>they choose a person who hasn't been at the watering hole at all recently to be a person of significance, even if it "doesn't mean anything"
>people who frequent the watering hole confused why they are le spokesperson just because they used to go to the watering hole but no longer
>>489984482
If it bothers you so much, volunteer.
>>489984464
Back where? /b/ in 2006 again? You're terrible to each other for no reason other than you're pieces of shit
>>489984403
No. Fuckoff for insulting my friends and this place where my friends are.
People who avoid this place due to a few toxic fucks like you are in the wrong as well.
What we need to do is extend an olive branch and make these lost lambs of /vrg/ who strayed away from their old friends to see the good in the thread instead of the doomers who forever suck the energy and creativity out of this community. To know that what's important is to focus on the good while ignoring the bad in the freest place in the internet where anyone can post.
>lets just allow the leaderfags to never be around this place because its meany and bad and hurts their feefees be allowed to also leaderfag from their old decreprid internet graves of having fucked off from the place that hurts their feefees but for some reason they want to stick around
???
>>489984648
I think you know where to go back to.
>>489983782
Kys RS
>>489984815
No one is allowing shit. I also dislike when people abandon me and my friends and forever ignore the good times we had and choose to leave me because of a few bad posts.
The in-between is what we need. The grey area of the purgatory where someone still can be saved and be brought back to the whole of /vrg/.
Anon I'm asking you to give these lost lambs a chance to re-integrate by extending an olive branch. Give it a few tries and at the third try that they still refuse to return, fully steel ourselves that they are truly gone.
But there must always be that olive branch to start with.
>>489984721
I know you have this fantasy in your head where every oldfag still browses and if they're not still browsing then all they need is someone to say "hey you should browse the thread again" and they're going to go "wooow you're right I didnt think about that im going to do that now!"
But that's not reality.
Just let these people be in their own communities, you can't force them to come back here nor should you if they don't want to be involved with us anymore.
>>489985073
>and choose to leave me
NTA but this is the fucking retarded. youre taking someone fucking off from /vrg/ as if theyre abandoning you personally. if theyre actually your friend you wouldnt stop talking to them just cause they dont post on /vrg/ anymore.
>>489985073
i wish you were right
but we both know that just because they hosted a thread event and maybe looked at it a lil after for pictures posted, they aren't going to fucking open this place again until the next "olive branch" is offered where they just accept because they used to be here 5 years ago a shitton and we have the same conversation
meanwhile their browser history reads "this thread last visitied 6 months ago", while everything they do is in fucking discord with all the other oldfags who never come around
fuck im salty and im sorry but shit just pisses me off.
>>489985108
I agree it is an ideal and a hope. But at the very least let's allow them the space to give them a few chances to come back.
I'll be satisfied and forever steel myself that they are fully gone...
but only after a few tries of trying to get them back
>>489985108
The idea that people just don't want to be here anymore is completely incompatible with some peoples' minds
>>489985515
if they dont want to be here anymore then why do they accept being a host to an event exclusively designed for here.
>>489977367
I actually have this and never played it. I might be up for it in the evening.
>>489985592
Why is nobody else applying for the job?
>>489985318
This.
Making people hosts who do not browse this thread and have openly stated recently they have no plans to browse it is just a mind-boggling decision.
It's not going to get them to come back and browse. They've already deeply engrained themselves in furry and tranny discord communities.
>>489985436
>But at the very least let's allow them the space to give them a few chances to come back.
They literally could open this thread at any time but they don't and haven't for months/years so I don't know what this statement even means. It's not like they've been browsing it since they've been made hosts, clearly.
>>489985279
Ill continue talking to them even if they are not /vrg/ anymore.
Where did you get the idea I would stop?
But be realistic here. Our interactions will start to dwindle as the time and place we share changes.
The common watering hole we call /vrg/ is important because this is where we share our adventures, thoughts and dreams with each other.
Where we keep up with each other and support one another.
Hope this makes sense. I want my friends here in /vrg/ to continue being together to eons and onwards. Wishing the best for each other and making cool shit together and generating amazing experiences together
>>489985695
by the event organizers own words, they didn't apply for the job, they were asked and accepted.
>>489985763
Because by the organizers own words, noone else is stepping up
>>489985592
Leaderfags revel in the chance to leaderfag, who woulda thought.
>>489985763
If it bothers someone, they should volunteer. Surely they would be more suitable than the person they're complaining about.
The fact that no-one else is stepping up just establishes why they are suitable for the role. They are willing to put in the time to help the event.
>>489985695
well nobody applied when I posted looking for a host so I had to manually find people I deemed good fit and maybe even more,get them back loving being here again
>>489985592
What kind of a special loser would want to be here listening to the same hourly meltdowns about transgenders and furries day after day
>>489985925
but you're here too anon, so why are you here?
>>489985736
>Our interactions will start to dwindle as the time and place we share changes.
This is a normal part of life. You need an actual core friend group, not the quasi-parasocial interactions of a gaggle of anonymous users. Anons have always been ships passing in the night.
>>489985659
Sounds good, there is a little tutorial before you can join co op lobbies.
>>489985976
I do have a core friend group and we also have a discord for our friend group.
But our friend group all use the /vrg/ thread heavily except for 1 guy out of 30
I wish for all friend groups and circles of /vrg/ to remain here and wanting to interact with the whole
>>489985959
Because I'm a loser too who keeps hoping 4chan will go back to before 2015
>>489985896
>>489985825
no one stepping up is a seperate issue from hosts being faggots who dont browse anymore
try harder to get others who are current users of the thread to host instead of just discording "old faithful" who you know will say yes because anon cant step up
>>489986316
guess we'll be here for a while then together huh.
wtf is this soc drama shit
>>489986316
or perhaps it's because you know for a fact that somewhere between schizos trying to ruin everything and actual good people having an occasional middle schooler moment, there's still plenty of perfectly alright anons posting perfectly alright posts. well, or perhaps i'm projecting
>>489986683
nta but I agree with you. You're on the right here, there are a lot of us who are perfectly alright anons, making perfectly fun posts which make this place lively and a great place for virtual reality enjoyers.
>>489986393
One of the many problems of a website that attracts a bunch of fucking autists, someone is sperging out about a non-issue instead of something actually pressing.
Thread on the left
>>489986916
are you saying that people who dont use the thread hosting a thread event is a non-issue?
>>489986991
What bothers me about this map:
- Flood is boring
- Disasters are client side
>>489987129
Yes, you can literally outsource hosts.
I could find someone put on the fucking street right now, give them a quick rundown of what they need to do, hand them my laptop and let them get shit rolling.
You're vastly overthinking this shit, go bust a nut
>>489986991
We'll survive. Discussions are healthy, let it run it's course. We may find the truth of the matter
>>489987221
Yeah it needs a tornado and acid rain and more shit that can kill you.
I'll make an FBF game room of this that actually works and is exciting for February next year
>>489987129
nta but honestly yeah most of the people in question are solid blokes for whom the only complaint is not existing and associating entirely and exclusively on 4chan
I KNEW choosing mr bean as my co driver was a mistake
>>489987420
>insulting Mr. Bean
YOU TAKE THAT BACK!
>>489987280
sorry ill post my dissent in discord my bad
>>489987392
i dont care if you dont exclusively use this thread or website
but its when you DONT use it at all is when its an issue
thats literally the entire basis of how we vet randos. im not advocating that we start kicking oldfags who dont browse anymore, dont get me wrong
i just dont think its right on principle that they host an event for a place they only care about in name, not in practicality
>>489983782
Yuki alternates between picking good hosts who use that thread that actually have experience and picking the most random choices and having things go disastrously.
He'll use the regular hosts one year and then things will go well and then he'll think "I should use people who never host things to be fair". Then when things go badly he realizes he should actually use hosts that host things and the cycle repeats.
Lost a lot of traction near the end because I forgot to change tires
>>489987478
He's just not a good co-driver, sorry
>>489987420
if mr bean was with you youd be setting PBs every run, have some fucking respect
>>489987392
>for whom the only complaint is not existing and associating entirely and exclusively on 4chan
no one has even made that argument, it's that they don't even come here at all.
>>489987601
G-guilty as charged.
I try to also "develop" new blood into hosting when possible as long as they agree to it. Never forcing, just a single no is enough. The experience does help give them the confidence boost I think, we have different tiers of hosting difficulties depending on the events and for the easier hosting ones it's good to give those who haven't hosted but would like to host a shot.
>>489987420
through mistakes, unityiirc Rowan Atkinson is a massive carfag and he'd most likely do a better job at this corner than either of us
>>489986683
The good moments become rarer and rarer
>>489988032
Oh yeah, Rowan Atkinson would be a much better co driver or driver... but his Mr Bean character would not be so much.
queue the benny hill theme
>>489988025
yuki's a groomer....
>>489988323
Oh that's great
what are the chances
>>489988025
Fuck that guy, I think you should continue your course. You have very sound ideology on the matter
>>489988415
>>489988697
o7
>Duki
>Very sound ideology
>>489988167
all the more reason to appreciate them when they come. Let's be honest, we can't control content here, we can't enforce anything, but everyone is well within power to post one or two nice things in a while to brighten it up a bit. It's not ideal, it's not a solution, but good moments come when good people talk, and for some people it's exactly why they're still here. I'd say it's better to focus on noticing that over thinking sad things, disabling your mental shitpost filter, and then getting sad over bad times
on that note, abandoning this sad topic with this very post. happy thoughts, happy thoughts
>>489989628
Based nice poster
Let's fill the thread with good posts and good vibes
>>489989837
i know what you are
>>489990550
Try and say it motherfugger
>>489990708
Canadian.
>>489990815
So you have chosen death
>yuki is canadian
This explains a lot
Hi, Monday Chess + Mahjong will be at 21:30CEST/19:30UTC (~4h20 from now) as usual
As usual we will start with 1h of chess followed by mahjong at 22:30CEST/20:30UTC (~5h20 from now)
By the way, tomorrow I want to try a new simple regular event. Temporarily calling it "Boredom tea"
> When?
Start around 6:15pm CEST, will be every other week or once a month
> What?
An instance where people are encouraged to join for a cup of tea and eventual snacks if they fancy it. The instance will be closed after 30-45min
Likely in a simple room with a table and a video player
> Why?
To share relaxing time before bigger instances and after work. With a focus on things having to stay calm and simple. Making it time limited to ensure it is meant to be an in-between time rather than something big. For that reason it will be posted in the thread but as invite+
>>489992089
No they're even worse, a seamonkey.
>>489990815
shamelessly using the C word baka my hand
>>489992161
>15min after Pavlov starts
There is a reason nothing happens between 8 and 10pm my man.
>>489994975
With how many people here that hate VRChat and the idea of being a cute anime girl I'm surprised there's any overlap.
Did all the VRC posts and drama finally push most of them out? I really think it needs it's own thread
>>489988025
The biggest issue I have is you picking people without knowing much about them or what they're all about.
Not a Cat is a good example, ideologically he's drifted so far away from 4chan culture but you don't know that.
>>489977367
Looks interesting but sorry, I only buy shit on >50% discount.
>>489995461
Uhm excuse me bigot, it's she
>>489995291
What the fuck is this post? Pretending to be a fucking victim now when 90% of the thread only plays trannychat? You a jew?
>>489995291
don't mistake shitposts with actual state of things, shit-stirring related to "us gamers and them vrchat" was here since forever and yet i can remember only a small handful of people i've seen only in pavlov and never in vrchat. it overlaps more often than not, hell, i'd give it solid 80% overlap guesstimate
>>489995461
4chan culture is extremely subjective, every turbo autist and their mother has very different and conflicting ideology
>>489995556
Tons of anons who play games with us but don't join vrg in VRChat/Hang with other non 4Chan friends in vrchat.
>>489995548
I struck a chord with this faggot, that's hilarious
>>489995556
VRChat needs to have its own thread, it's far beyond just VRG now and takes away from all the other game posts
>>489994975
To be honest that's the only time left that I personally have for something like this during the week, it's fine if some people would chose pavlov instead, the 2 things have completely different objectives
>>489994975
Pavlov is tuesdays not mondays
>>489930382
two hosts for NA and EU and only one for SEA...
???
Thats not logical double triple that host number up to 8 and add me as a host THEN it will be fair.. also remove NA and EU
>>489995872
>VRG
lol
>>489988323
You can't win against a professional yellow cab driver.
>>489996056
verg
>>489995913
Hosting something during a regular game lobby thats a VRChat meet will be met with anger from those who dont use the headset as a drinking and erp discord extension.
>>489996020
Read it again, says tomorrow.
>>489996395
>will be met with anger from those who dont use the headset as a drinking and erp discord extension
If pavlov players are angry that a few retards who don't join their game are drinking tea once a month, i don't think I need to care
>>489995461
4chan "culture" varies per board and thread.
The only real truth and important thing is that we use this place and can keep using it against all odds.
Obviously the on-topicness of a post to the thread relating to it's subject matter is important too but that's more of a rule not a culture.
>>489995872
This combined thread can barely survive 2024 /vg/. If we split it both threads would be falling off of the board constantly.
>>489995461
>Not a Cat is a good example, ideologically he's drifted so far away from 4chan culture but you don't know that.
I'm going to laugh if someone gets kicked from the instance for drawing an -ACK near him.
>>489996032
Fellow SEA bro... I hate to break it to you but we have the smallest pool of anons in /vrg/
>>489996890
not if we collectively shut down NA and EU and watch them all claw their way into SEA like rabid animals then proceed to kick all of them like some sick twisted game
>>489995461
There is no "4chan ideology".
>>489996837
>Retarded ass ugly tranny pfp every faggot that makes a pronoun their entire personality is obsessed with having
I take back literally everything in hopes and optimism they're a competent host let alone someone that should even be there, I was wrong, blinded by ignorance.
>>489997406
No bro you dont get it you need to spam cunny and nigger to be in our special secret club
>>489997406
I reject furries and people who police pronouns. If you police pronouns you are not my people.
I like Cat but come on.
>>489996837
>>489995461
I believ in Not a Cat being ablee to host swimmingly. His skin is thick enough and realizes they are a tranny and that’s fine as long as they can take the fire from those that do not ideologically align with them. This is 4chan afterall, the proverbial melting pot of the internet.
All that guy that was bitching had to say from the very beginning is that Cat's a fucking TA tranny and I'd have actually agreed with them but they were pussy footing around it like they were stepping on eggshells focusing on the dumbest arbitrary bullshit.
>>489973280
Setting it to low doesn't disable it. You need to modify some ini files.
>>489930382
are you sure you don't need to host a third instance for NA? last time the queue times for the NA instances were literally 40 minutes if you didn't get in immediately
please consider a third instance
>>490000270
If it is too crowded and/or the hosting is bad I'll probably host a third map, I am not one of the people Yuki has talked to but hosting an instance is easy.
ultimate swing golf
pass:1488
>>489996395
>Read it again, says tomorrow.
Tomorrow's thing is at 18:15CEST/16:15UTC, Pavlov is at 20:00CEST/18:00UTC
member when we used to not need to host "events" just to hang out during the weekday
I member
>>490004863
True. I'm getting online now.
>>490004863
sorry I'm gonna play VR games
>>490004618
Dammit, again couldn't make it. It's so over.
Oops... forgot to post this at some point.
Bnuuy posting!
>>490008996
dont worry were not having fun
>>490009958
cutest eyes
Is there a gimmick or something to have VRChat run reasonably well? What's the biggest bottleneck that I should upgrade in order to improve performance?
>>490010638
CPU and VRAM
also use avatar hider
>>490009958
not a single one of these is a bunny
>>490010638
In bigger instances or less optimized worlds, you cannot really brute-force through the combined lack of optimization effort of all of the instance, it's better to play with safety settings and limit the amount of visible avatars. In smaller instances and good optimized words, VRC runs reasonably well even on current mid-tier computers, so I wonder if it even makes sense to consider PC upgrades with VRC in mind. It's a weird situation.
>>490010638
Install fpsvr and monitor gpu, cpu frametimes, ram and vram useage to find your bottleneck.
But in the end, the best you can get for vrchat is 4090 and 7800x3d
>>489858581 (OP)
Based
>>490010752
>>490011063
>>490011345
I'm running an I9-10900k, and now im hearing all this shit coming out about intel, so I guess it's safe to assume i'm due for an AMD upgrade? I do also keep my safety settings on to help with that, but I mean I was chugging hard even in a Terrors of Nowhere lobby.
>>490011646
AMD X3D CPUs are currently the best for VRChat and Unity games in general
>>490009958
>>490010518
hi can i get an iced latte with breast milk i mean breast milk i mean breast milk sorry i mean breast milk i mean breast milk i mean
>>490011646
definitely upgrade CPU, VRC will absolutely love it and I'd say you can safely assume it's your biggest bottleneck unless you're still running on some kind of gtx770. First example off the shelf, not specific, but shows off exactly how important CPU is:
https://youtu.be/CHldEkTYapo?t=742
>>490011884
>12900k
Holy fuck I am so glad I went with that CPU and didn't bother upgrading to 13th or 14th gen. Alder lake all the way.
>>490011646
Post full specs
>>490011884
Damn this was very helpful, thanks bro
>>490012490
i9-10900k CPU
Nvidia Geforce RTX 3080 ti
TUF Gaming Z590-PLUS WIFI
32 gigs of RAM
all this shit is installed on an nvme drive.
>>490010638
There is literally nothing you can do except drop $3000 on cutting edge hardware
>>490012915
EVGA 3080Ti?
>>490012915
I'd keep an eye on your VRAM usage too since 12GB isn't always enough, but it does look like you're CPU bottlenecked.
>>490012915
And just in case you're unaware of the massive shitstorm going around, do not go for intel this time, at least not right now. They fucked up last two generations of CPUs and every performance-oriented model has an issue where one core/module/whatever gets way too much power and degrades faster than the rest. There's also another problem on top of that, CPUs are oxidizing for some reason, they claim they fixed rusting in new batchesbut it's intel that claims that, so i'd assume the opposite, kek
lets go Boating!
https://vrch.at/8q3xv26n
>>490015303
Sure I haven't seen you in years, I'll boot up my laptop c:
>>490012915
Swapping to 7800x3d is gonna be the biggest performance boost for vrc, for you.
Ignore other processors. You want one with monilithic dies where all cores yave access to the big cache. Thats either 5800x3d or 7800x3d
>>489980624
are you going to contribute anything to the event?
no, so stfu
>>490015594
>>490014432
>>490013561
cheers lads, that's what I'll be doing first then, not surprised though considering mine is over 2 years old.
>>490015843
stay mad loser
>>489996395
If hosting mahjong during drunk pavlov and whatever friday night game lobby is any indicator, it's not a big deal at all. People will decide on their own what they'll go spend their time on.
>>490015895
But still, I recomend to first check your bottlenecks in fps vr, before committing financially.
Last night was the most populated sunday poger has ever been, would anyone be interested in a hold'em tournament at some point?
>>490015594
It doesnt matter for VRC. VRC shoud automatically select the vcache die for its threads and force it to be it. If its not automatici swear there were patch notes for it earlier this yearyou can just set the launch options to only utilize the vcache cores.
7950x3d is unironically the best vrc CPU because you can offload all other threads to the frequency cores. Its the general best CPU if you're willing to get down and dirty with process lasso.
>>489992161
Chess https://vrch.at/5dxa0ghx
>>490017610
>Trusting pajeet drivers to select correct ccd
No thanks
>>490020235
Its not the driver doing it. VRC itself is automatically selecting the right affinity.
>>490017610
7950x3d core scheduling is built around a hacky workaround, so unless you're willing to use process lasso for basically everything, you're better off just getting a 7800x3d.
The differences are negligible for gaming, and a lot of benchmarks show better results for the 7800x3d over the 7950x3d.
>>490021307
https://docs.vrchat.com/docs/launch-options#amd-inter-ccx-latency-and-core-affinity
It doesn't automatically do that, you need to set launch options or use process lasso.
>>490021840
>If its not automatic i swear there were patch notes for it earlier this year
I genuinely thought it was native now.
The differences are negligible for gaming on a cleaned system. The moment you start having a bunch of electron apps, browsers, and other start up programs having the extra cores on a different CCX available is extremely nice. Yes its more work but the benefit is huge.
I've encoded movies while in VRC in the past on my CPU and not had any difference in performance.
>>490022229
I just encode video on my server
>>490022229
>Encoding on cpu
>>490022404
Encoding on GPU while also playing VRC is awful and you should know this. I have 16 threads sitting barely used for this purpose. CPU encoding also tends to provide better quality.
>>490022338
Electricity where I'm at is expensive. I'd rather just have one machine.
>>490022229
If you're running heavy workloads while you're in VR sure it might make a big difference, outside of that I'm skeptical that it'd actually make more than a negligible difference. Electron apps and browsers are mostly a drain on RAM if you're just leaving them idling in the background.
Yes, it's technically better, but I don't think it's worth the extra cost or the hassle for 99% of people.
>>489992161
Mahjong https://vrch.at/t85dbcb3
>>490009958
IS THAT LAPWING MY BELOVED?
How come nobody engages with me? I seem to be the one that does the engaging.
Am I just too boring? Too nice? Should I be mean to people?
>>490033078
Everyone else is autistic and shy
>>490033078
namedrop
>>490003374
anon if i saw you in a world i would block you immediately
>>490015303
Winner!
>>490033078
Most people would have no idea what to do when not in the presence of their group and most of them are only in a group because they got newfag attention (not guaranteed) or knew someone before meeting in VR.
here’s what you would look like if you were black or chinese
>>490026268
>came late for chess
>stayed for mahjong
>four games full of confusion later, it actually becomes fun
damn, those lobbies were flying around for so long and yet the idea that it might be a fun game has never occurred to me
>>490038652
forget the skin color wheres the HL2 crowbar
>>490039671
Mahjong is the ojiisan game
pssst
Tuesday's movie is Do The Right Thing
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097216/
On the hottest day of the year on a street in the Bedford-Stuyvesant section of Brooklyn, everyone's hate and bigotry smolders and builds until it explodes into violence.
starting at 19:00 UTC as usual !
>>489985825
Where was the public announcement asking for people to step up, dipshit?
For all the "WE LOVE THE THREAD EVERYONE IS MY BROTHER!!!!" shit Yuki does, he sure only sticks to his discord groups and never asks in the thread.
>>490045691
True, he says he asks new people to host stuff but by new people he means "guys I was friends with in 2018" even if they aren't part of the community anymore.
>>490045691
>>490045864
Here you go >>488090576 (Cross-thread)
after this post two anons contacted me one for NA janny duty and another for EU hosting duty.
Don't make me list all the hosts I choose for all the events I've started, it'll take a while. If I don't get lazy you will see it'sa wide array of different people from different parts of /vrg/ from old to new, tranny to racist.
>>490026268
24000!!
>>490048561
The mahjong grooming pipeline...
East 1 stunlock
>>489949662
Karts up
Join Mumble via voice.vrg.party. Join the server via the join server.bat file.
>>490048561
here’s what you would look like if you were black or chinese
>>490049717
I can't appreciate these anymore if one is not black and the other chinese...
>>490048909
based on the poorly placed censor bars one can only assume the censored name is cum dumpster
>>490049920
yeah true
>>490050117
huh??
>>490050315
would you prefer cream demon?
>>490050875
compact disc
>>490053057
Cumpacked dicks
>>489987315
Can you make a Chinese invasion disaster where it blasts that Chinese song while explosions are happening around us
>>490049413
Black Grus my beloved…
>>490053729
That's a great and funny idea. I'll place the chinese invasion as one of the disasters then. It's not against VRC TOS right?
If it is, maybe "The fire nation attacked" is a good alternative
>>490016467
Sounds like fun, I'd be down.
some russian company released a 4 dollar FPV kamikaze drone game on steam but it doesn't have VR support. lame. anyone know of a good loitering munitions game for grenade drops and kamikaze drones?
>>489997928
What's a TA?
>>490058412
trans academy
Hi it's Monday pypy time:
https://vrch.at/gwr9kuv4
or join onLycosella
Don't forget to join the official /vrg/ group in VRChat and to represent it!
>>490060257
hmm nyo :3
>>490033078
I have used this image on Discord recently and I must let everyone know that this anon is not mehowever I do empathize and came to the conclusion that I should be more mean and selfisha little bit ago, not that I've managed to do so since then
>>490060396
If you don't rep your set then you're just a bitch ass trick
>>490060679
I'm a blood in a crip world.
>>490060257
I was fine with it until you said no capslock how FUXKING DARE YOU
>>490060257
>No racism
>No sexism
>No hate speech
When did it become a SJW commie hugbox?
>>490060869
Even 4chan has moderation you idiot try making this place into stormfront 2.0 and you will get killed by the mods fast.
>>490060869
those rules are from a copypasta I have the same list in my vip discord that you can join if you subscribe my OF
>>490060725
I'm a crip in a virtual world
>>490062268
hit that C walk cuh
>>490062396
I'm too old now. My knees don't work.
>>490062624
pouring one out for all the old heads ya'll was the real ones n shieet
>>490062719
I'm not dead wtf
>>490063562
lol
>>489949662
>>490048964
thx for playing guys. I'll host again in two weeks.
>>490059842
Nice pypying pypyers
Next NA pypy is Tuesday at 7PM PDT / 10 PM EDT
>>490072423
why does the pink loli strip for every photo?
It's Mojito Monday time once again!
Come join in on the weekday festivities shall we
>>490073810
Anon you forgot the link!
>>490073167
the natural state of whores
>>490000270
Should be. We bumped maximum map size from 64 to 72 this time. That should be enough hopefully.
If not, it is possible to host a third like this anon said >>490000520
Also if you are willing to do so as a rescue third instance just in-case, give me a DM so I can place your name in the system so you can use the admin panel
Showing Escaflowne tonight at 10PM EDT (a little under 21 hours from now) for NA anime movie night.
I'll post details to join off of when the instance is up.
>>490076980
oh i'll be there
love that show
>>489986991
Map name?
>>490079906
check the OP first few lines
>>490079906
nvm the world scraper seems to be down I'll link it to you directly
Aight this should be it
https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_8e30e0e5-aae0-4452-9281-6832f5e49b06
>>490080448
Thanks anon!
>>490080649
just so whatever retard keeps shitting this on krial is aware; let's assume this is real.
in georgia you can be charged with simple battery for something as simple as poking someone. so tired of you shitting up both threads with this stupid image.
>>490081502
I've met K irl several times. This isn't anything even close to real. Just don't bother responding to Jelly.
>>490081557
i believe you, i'm just saying. simple battery is literally a nothing charge, were it real.
>>490081502
>>490073810
Can't wait to see who you kick this time
>>490060257
If you dare check, you'll see that R isn't even a member of that group. Mamamad is though. What a coincidence.
>>490081697
UNFORTUNATELY
anyone running vrchat on linux? Just joined a world for the first time and my VRAM immediately filled up and not too long after that my shell crashed
I do not like this pace-matching rally mode
The calls are cucked as fuck, he doesn't announce half the corners, and he constantly nags me that I'm going too slow while I'm going round a fucking hairpin
>>490093017
Turn avatar hider on, was it a public world? You need safety settings on to minimize the amount of avatars you see. It's under the cog wheel.
>>490093017
Yeah sounds about average
>>490093161
I'll give that a try, and yeah it was a public world
>>490093491
Public worlds are minefields of the horrificly unoptimized. As users can upload their own game assets, they typically don't trim them for performance. In public worlds especially content creation skills are rare, so they will use what they can find; and what they can find is typically horrific because the overlap between optimizing and creation skills is also rare.
>>490093491
I'd recommend 10 avatars 15 distance if you're brand new to vrchat and not sure if your comp can handle more. I run a top of the line system and I still stutter.
>>490093491
Oh yeah as a tidbit: Me and a few others have done CPU benchmarking in VRC, and public worlds are used as our "extreme load" benchmark.
Use the safety settings; set max download size to 30MB, do not show very poors by default. If you're talking to someone then you can manually show their avatar but you should hide it again manually after.
>>490093017
What GPU you got?
>>490093017
I tried a couple times, worked at 90% of windows performance to me and the only downside was that video players were a separate audio software out (which I didn't know back then, so i didn't crank it down) so music was blasting at 100% volume and i couldn't hear shit. Performance impact was present, but memory issues and crashes were not a specific thing that started happening more often. Still, maybe there was some regression somewhere between proton versions ever since I tried it out? Are you running it on ge-proton?
>>490094094
Is there even anyone in this thread whose main avatar is not on Very Poor?
anyone online? dead hours gang rise up
>>490096290
Yes, plenty.
However, there's also very poor and then there's public world model very poor. You will understand if you go since it will be an assault of 130MB avatars with red numbers so high you wonder how unity didn't crash trying to upload it
>>490096290
i make sure my avatars are good, but i exclusively use public avatars so shrug
>>490096410
just about to head to sleep, sorry anon. I’ll treat you to a candlelit steak dinner when i wake up
>>490094992
4080
Ice driving is unpleasant
>>490096467
It was a genuine, non-rhetorical, question since I'm new to this and I have no toggles or alternate outfits or any, like, glowing stuff added on my avatar, but it's still on Very Poor because of number of physbones and triangles. I see no way to get under the strict thresholds for going below Very Poor with the avatar I use. I'm sure it's possible with a less detailed avatar though.
>>490096410
dead hours? you mean peak weekday SEA hours lets ogggg
>>490097157
It's possible, people literally don't bother trying.
https://vrwiki.nexisonline.net/wiki/Booth_Optimization_example
>>490096945
>16GB
That should be fine for most shit; try running nvtop and keeping track of what's going on. Failing that steamtinkerlaunch with different proton's
>>490097252
i think might host a watch party
>>490097296
I always delete unused bones and uneeded meshes. Everything else is blender stuff though which I can not do.
>>490098875
open blender
>>490098875
d4rks avatar optimizer does that for you automatically
https://github.com/d4rkc0d3r/d4rkAvatarOptimizer
>>490098483
what do you want to watch ?
>>490099107
peep show season 1-9
>>490098920
Tried it and it doesn't work. My understanding was that it was outdated but I tried it the other day and it just throws out errors and greyed out buttons I don't understand. Maybe it was the particular outfit I was trying so I was planning on trying it on one of my simpler outfits this evening.
>>490098895
I have tried in the past. Something always fucks up. Mostly when importing into unity. I've asked for help but people don't want to help me.
>>490099503
>Mostly when importing into unity.
That's a common problem when you're relying on janky folded thousand times jap prefabs and try to modify something. It tends to blow up unless you understand what broke.
https://vrwiki.nexisonline.net/wiki/Avatar_Hypertutorial
Avatar making is so complex now that tools abstract the process; I recommend understanding the manual old fashioned ways so you can get a sense for what the tools are abstracting away from you.
>>490099503
i have no clue whats wrong with it then, ive never had an issue. and d4rk updates it frequently its not outdated at all.
>>490099296
u down bruv?
>>490096410
I'm up
>>490099805
do u want to watch peep show season 1 episode 1 with me
>>490099779
Sorry man I gotta work on corrupting Shinra's
>>490100535
sorry no not in a watching mood. I'm hanging out chatting with other sea right now
never really played VR chat
is there a way I can make it so i never have to see or play with furries or men using anime girl avatars?
>>490102734
The only way to do this is to just go to worlds by yourself. Plenty of neat stuff to see though.
>>490102734
As the above said you'd be playing by yourself pretty much but there's a lot of cool shit to seez even now I'm exploring worlds alone. I love the exploration events but going by myself is more convenient and faster too, a lot of slop and prefabs but finding the gems among the rough is nice
Today is Pavlov day!
Is "vrg" group even a thing anymore? Sorry have been on a long break.
>>490107175
It was never a thing. Unless you're talking about the steam group.
The only vrg VRC groups that have been made are troll groups made by people like mamamad.
>>490107175
/vrg/ is the thread, anyone who uses the thread is /vrg/
That's it
>>490107175
If you use the thread, you are vrg.
Some VRC drinking groups and discords goes around and call themself vrg, but they are not.
>>490108393
PoV: Greggs closes in 5 minutes
Anyone remember the world where:
You could take a picture with this camera thing and it would project the picture onto the wall behind whatever you took a picture of?
>>490107738
>>490107841
Sorry but I'm here to hang out with people from 4chan. I don't care if they use the thread or not.
>>490112597
That's fine but the group will be full of people who don't use 4chan
>>490112597
>Im here to hang out with people from 4chan, I dont care if they use 4chan or not
>>490112803
There are a lot of people around that use 4chan but do not use this thread. This thread isn't a very great thread, I don't understand why so many people seem to treat being here like it's the most important thing.
>>490113285
That's not the point; the point is that group is not a 4chan group
>>490113285
Spoonfeeding in randos again I see.
>>490113285
It's important to use this thread for the community to be strong and fond of each other. So we can have fun and shoot the shit in 4chan as a continuous group keeping up with each other in the same watering hole.
A place we can call home with the friends we made along the way keeping the house warm <3
>>490113759
Or put more accurately and less retardedly: The primary overlap I want to share with people are:
- 4chan user
- Interested in VR
If you are both these things, where is the most likely place you will be
>>490113910
Weird way to spell Trans, Booth model and putting out.
>>490114326
you forgot cute voice
>>490113910
Not in vrc
goat game
>>490115104
VRC is the infinite canvas of the virtual world and is the most succesful and most populated VR game and is the defacto system seller. It has the most content out of any VR game bar none to an order of a couple of magnitudes.
To the point that it can support full companies like slimeVR and HTC Vive and various other headsets with face and eye tracking just because it exists.
No other VR game uses these superflous features yet companies make them since VRChat users uses them.
>>490115643
Roblox and Doom support VR and easily have more content. I don't make the rules.
>>490113759
I drew that wall cat!
>>490115942
Roblox is a flat game with vastly more years of run time than vrc that made an official vr mod for itself.
I wonder if it has better visuals though for sight seeing worlds. Haven’t played roblox myself.
Doom also has tons of mods before then got a vr mod.
Silly anon trying to win by technicalities. Must be an ENTP
>>490113759
Nah, I care that people are culturally similar. I don't think they are beholden to the thread. It's the thread's obligation to be interesting enough to draw people in, not a person's obligation to use the thread.
>>490115643
vrc is an advertisers and demographers wet dream, of course there is an attempt to push it and artificially try to make it out to be what vr is. Luckily it isn't what VR is, and despite it being among the sum of all vr applications the most populated, its hard stuck at the demographic it has been stuck for a few years, tendency declining because all you advertising freaks did, was drawing the drags of the gaming and online niche.
And never make the mistake again, to confuse degens that cant shut up, have been booted everywhere else, being equal to a 4chan user interested in vr
is there any way to check if someone has you blocked in vrchat?
>>490119730
lemme block you and you can check
Hello, as announced yesterday, today at 18:15CEST (1h from now) will be the first tentative of "Boredom tea".
tl;dr: if the concept speaks to you, brew some tea (or coffee) and join for a short calm instance
(more details here >>489992161)
>>490120653
This interests me; I'd like to say hi.
>>489957894
I was about to buy this literally 2 days ago then I read up that there's a huge shitstorm going on because EA wants kernel level access to my system as part of their anticheat so people can't spoof stage times on a game i'll be playing alone and most likely 'offline' anyway.
How does the VR compare to Dirt Rally 2.0 ?
>>490115127
Was fun playing this flat, I may give this a go another time.
>>490120653
As much as I love a brew I'm busy at this time of week, have fun though!
>>490120653
i'll show up! i haven't had my coffee yet today anyway
>>490122084
>VR
overall VR suitability has generally degraded because you have to pick between blurry visuals or shimmering pixelated surfaces, but once you'll get over it, there's a whole lot of new content, and new handling feels way more reasonable.
>>490108393
Do you have any luck getting the game to work on Linux/SteamOS or on a VM at least? With the sale I'm tempted as I don't mind TAA/DLSS blur, but I'm kind of worried with the reviews and protondb ratings.
>>490122084
That's the main reason I'm avoiding it right now. Mostly negative reviews on Steam make me sad. I had to quit VRChat too because they also blocked me for not having a TPM enabled PC. A game where the anti-cheat is optional like the Master Chief Collection would be ideal, I don't care about achievements or whatever.
>>490117348
Man why do you trannies have to keep moving goalposts and outright lying. I join game lobbies but don't bother with VRChat these days. VR=/=VRChat.
>>490122084
You're probably kernel cucked already with shit like pavlov and vrc, what's one more? My philosophy is I consider any PC I play games on to be compromised anyway and never have anything sensitive on it, so kernel man can only see I play games. Plus I try and isolate it from the rest of my network.
Anyway; as for the game, it plays really nice. The cars feel good, the tracks are fun, and it's challenging. Like that's fine; it's other stuff that's an issue. Graphics wise it's hard to run so if you have a powerful GPU you'll be okay. Even if you do the rendering has issues so it kinda looks messed up in some places. I just deal with it since the rally is fun
>>490122569
>>490122583
>>490122585
Wow. Thanks for the input. Pavlov too huh?
I guess I'll be skipping WRC for now. I was considering giving 800$ to Fanatec when the game first got released. I'm so SO glad I waited.
And yeah. Offline/0 achievements would be preferable. Dirt Rally 2.0 it is.
On a separate note -
Any good offline space sims that aren't TOO in depth? I've felt like Evochron Legacy SE was a little much with how complex it was. Got a headache before I finished the tutorial.
Everspace 2 with UEVR seems promising but I cant get it to cooperate.
Heard awful things about recent Elite Dangerous monetization...
What else is there? Anything on the lighter end around? Like "Freelancer but VR" ?I'm new to VR.
>>490112597
What a bizarre statement.
You're here to hang with people from 4chan, and yet you don't care if they use 4chan or not.
Are you retarded?
>>490123895
There's X3 VR which I haven't tried but seems to be badly reviewed. I play No Man's Sky in VR and like it, but it's not a good space sim and I seriously question whether the game was ever 'engoodened' as it's just Minecraft with some MMO elements in space. It's worth a pirate to see if you like it.
II was looking forward to Haunted Space as well as the devs had announced VR support, but it seems to have pivoted to NFTs which is lame.
>>490123895
I'm not exactly what happens in E:D now, but couple years ago I played it and it seemed fine to me, I played without any expansions/DLCs and I could still do same good old trading and bandit hunts. It also has amazing sounds, very much worth at least an attempt, unless they really, really went down through those last couple years.
>>490124347
What
There's a lot more to 4chan than this thread. There are a lot of people who browse the site but don't like this thread.
>>490124594
Yet you want to join a "/vrg/ group"
Curious how people hate this thread yet are desperate to still represent its name.
>>490123895
>Any good offline space sims that aren't TOO in depth?
Mayhaps house of the dying sun, haven't played it yet so I can't really say much about it.
>>490124829
I reject the notion that this is a single group or a cohesive community. Perhaps it was close to being one in 2018 but those days have passed.
>>490125765
If you browse the thread, you're /vrg/
If you don't browse the thread, you're not /vrg/
It is that shrimple.
>>490120653
Tea instance up! https://vrch.at/ucn7swkv
I'm also on blue with status "join for tea" if you wanna join from friendlist
>>490125994
And you consider people who browse 4chan but not the thread to be randos?
>>490125765
I really should admit to that. But I'd like to at least ensure the groups we have at least browse the site. There's a lot of people who don't, and the risks of getting banned for saying nigger skyrocket when you let them in.
>>490126380
I would not consider them randos but I would not consider them /vrg/.
I don't consider the people on /r9k/ that have their own VR circle to be /vrg/, and they wouldn't consider themselves /vrg/ either.
>>490126507
Why should I care if someone is /vrg/ or not? I just care if they're from 4chan.
>>490126890
That's fine, I'm just pointing out that not everyone that uses 4chan is /vrg/, and sometimes you have cases of people not even using 4chan and still calling themselves /vrg/ (like the in-game group)
whats the best way to go about doing a head swap??
>>490128483
My method is pretty messy but
Edit the head vertices so they line up closely with the neck
Make knife cuts on the neck so you don't have ngons when connecting them
make duplicate of head
Merge head to body
attach neck vertices to head to fix the position
remove head duplicate and materials from body, and all zero weight shapekeys (or just clear the shapekeys before attaching it i'm not your mom)
that solves the geometry. Texture is just colour adjusting using the guide everyone else uses but you should be able to prevent ugly gaps this way
Not many people will really notice or hassle you much if you're not being autistic so at least just colour match and it should look fine
It's Tuesday! Time for Pavlov Search and Destroy!
At 1800 UTC (1900 UTC+1)
Join the community server: "Gem Server!"
Password is 7536Headpat people when you join anyway
Maps are on mod.io now! The easiest way to download them will be let the game download them.
>>490126380
Not him, but yes. I don't know why you'd want to deal with the average /b/ or /pol/ tourist that make up most of this site's traffic.
>>490129406
It is Pavlov day!
>>490129115
thank you!
>>490126013
Thanks for joining everyone, had a real comfy time. Next time will likely be on the 27th or 3rd
>>490131138
Thanks for hosting!
anyone wanna make clown outfits and watch the election all night together in VR?
>>490135175
What election?
>>489986991
>>490080448
oh that's a VRChat map? I thought it was that ROBLOX game
should really see how it plays in VR...
>>490140513
yeah it's a remake in vrc- it's not great
I'm sorry, but I will be a furry from now on.
>>490040172
hey!!
movie starting soon... in about 10 minutes!
tonight we're watching Do The Right Thing
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097216/
It's the hottest day of the summer. You can do nothing, you can do something, or you can...
https://vrch.at/dggjua74 or join off Lumadurin !
Unscheduled fishing in 20 minutes.
>>490144808
I love to fish.
>>490144808
fish
bump
>>490057704
anyone have any ideas?
>>490115127
is the creator of this game such a coomer he designed his main character without pants???
>>490144808
Thanks for the fishing!
>>490126380
Not that anon but they would not be a rando but they would also not be /vrg/.
There’s thousands upon thousands of people in VR who play from 4chan. But I want to prioritize my limited time on people who wish to be with me and be in the same place and hobby as me. Having similar goals.
I ak more fond of you who post here in the /vrg/ thread than some random bloke from /pol/ who sometimes use VR but never post here.
Hope this makes sense.
>>490161943
nta but fond of you as well
>>490162443
<3
Trying out Ambush Canyon in Assetto Corsa tomorrow night at 8PM EDT (about 26 hours from now).
Car list is in pic related, let me know if there's anything else you want to run.
All of the mods and DLC should be in the links below, and the server is up if you want to test anything.
server: vrg racing
pass: tfwnodriftfu
voice chat (mumble): voice.vrg.party
mods: https://mega.nz/folder/xN4EGDiC#cvLFrD3kTpS_8pU7eNVvPw
DLC: https://mega.nz/folder/hNgHTIrb#utSeSx4mqKjcMYfwiI67sg
>page 9
VR is reclining...
>>490123895
X-Wing Alliance has very good VR mod and TIE Fighter TC, well worth playing. Vendetta Online is MMO but it does have some singleplayer missions, it's on Quest and Oculus PC.
E:D is perfectly fine in VR if you stick to legacy version which is not developed anymore but for singleplayer it doesn't matter.
>>490170719
>no fox bump
/vrg/ is reclining....
>>490171124
we dont like furries here so thats a good thing.
>>490131138
I will be free on the 27th so I hope it'll happen then
>>490171873
I hope it happens on the 3rd :)
>>490120653
is the the euro dinner circle?
>>490161943
>>490129465
I have a lot of threads who still use 4chan and don't use the thread and I don't really blame them.
Lately a lot of people seem to be oddly smug about the fact that they use a thread on /vg/ that is barely a shadow of what it used to be.
>>490174928
Especially a thread the entire site looked down even in its prime.
>>490174928
I don't see anyone here being smug here that they are using the /vrg/ thread.
What I do see is your post being smug and holier than though that they are so above using /vrg/ and /vg/ and sees it as something to be avoided and looked down upon.
>>490174928
>>490175510
yeah, I've met anons at club events and public worlds that browse imageboards regularly, know what /vrg/ is, and avoid it like the plague. we don't exactly have the best reputation and never really did.
>>490177062
Caring about "reputation" on 4chan of all places sounds like clout goblin behavior.
You know /vrg/ is just a place and the public see 4chan for it's worst most vocal minorities? Anyone outsiders of our community often think we're some sort of group with a leader and agenda. When we're really just random blokes on the internet that congregated here.
It really grinds my gear when someone like you post here and look at "reputation" from an outsider's perspective rather than relying on your own more whole perception of all the amazing things we do here and all the lovely people in here.
>>490177730
Oh I fully see all the amazing events and good people here, but if you don't wade through the sluts and the schizos to find them, then all you see is the sluts and the schizos.
>>490177730
I think people who want to treat /vrg/ like a social club with leaders and events are the clout chasers.
>>490178362
Our events are the only thing that keep /vrg/ from just being another alcoholic VRC polycule.
>>490177062
>>490177730
Yeah I dont like that either. They only know from reputation rather than experience, which youd think 4chan types would value more.
>>490178721
This anon gets it
>/vrg/ friend says /vrg/ sucks
> says there's too much drinking, ERP, drama
>invites me to splinter discord/other VRC community
>look inside
>drinking, ERP, drama
every time
weekly NA chess at 10:00ish eastern in ~2 hours drinking encouraged queen sacs encouraged spite checks extra encouraged
The best way to interact with a general has always been to play the relevant game on your own completely agnostic of other anons and occasionally sharing a noteworthy experience in thread and discussing in-development games, or any user-generated content you've made. VRC is incompatible with this. It's just a fucking chatroom. Note that posts about singleplayer experiences e.g. ITR have always been on topic and of at least a minimum of quality while VRCposting is absolutely radioactive.
You know I'm right.
>>490179842
Your point is about single player games is valid.
However are discounting the user-generated content made for VRchat is something you seem to have glossed over.
Remember VRchat players make so much new avatars, avatar tech, world and world tech your head will spin. And I love experiencing all the avatars and worlds people make.
And am inspired to make my own avatars and worlds in turn.
>>490180089
the bad, including deviation from anonymity as a rule of course, comes with that good. if it wasnt for vrc we'd have multiple game lobbies running simultaneously every friday and saturday night instead of all this... this.
>>490180629
>if it wasnt for vrc we'd have multiple game lobbies running simultaneously every friday and saturday night instead of all this... this.
That's a massive assumption me thinks. While asking my self personally, I will be using more time hosting multiple player vr games if vrchat did not exist.
BUT that's only because a more stimulating and more preferable thing does not exist.
It's like saying I will only eat grull, potato and rice if there was no meat.
VRC is that meat for me. I love VRchat, blender and unity and all my friends in it.
The metaverse experience VR and by extension vrc brings is the best thing to have happened to my life so far.
>>490179316
this place is unironically one of the more sane parts of the vrc sphere
>>490144345
oh whoopsie almost forgot
thank you all for coming! see those who can make it next week when we chill out...
>>489859216
i have no vr feet :(
>>490180629
>if it wasnt for vrc we'd have multiple game lobbies running simultaneously every friday and saturday night
lol lmao
delusional
LATE
Hi it's time for Tuesday pypy:
https://vrch.at/sstgbxxw
or join onLycosella
>>490076980
Escaflowne starting in 10-15 minutes, you can join offSilencenor try the link:
https://vrch.at/2vtpc8u0
>>490191057
im finishing apex suck me
>>490191345
do i need to have seen the anime first?
>>490191618
Nope, it's an alternate retelling that's apparently pretty different from the TV series.
>>490191532
if u dont hurry ill cry
and join a public world
>>490191284
You may not like it but these anime girls are the most /fit/ members of /vrg/
PEAK PERFORMANCE
>>490140513
tried it
surpisingly, that game in particular has a dedicated VR Mod, tracked controllers and all. has two issues in the round or two I played
>no smooth turn, just 45 snap turn with this horrible blur animation every time you turn (unless I just didn't find the settings)
>player collision is a thing which can get pretty disorienting with everyone pushing you around
>>490179782
NA chess is up :333
https://vrch.at/acensuam
anon-kun when was the last time you were in VR?
>>490194725
Last night
>>490194725
right meow
alright lads, it's on tonight
SEA watch party at 10AM UTC. Inbetweeners, Peep Show and People Just Do Nothing. Will post instance link 10m before starting.
>>490192063
but which of them is the most fit??
>>490197471
Go and find out!
>>490194725
Been in vr for the past 22hrs (with breaks to piss and eat/etc ot course).
>>490194725
just took my headset off for a snack, was playing some games but now im gonna watch porn before i go to bed
>>490194725
im in vr now!
>>490195376
Oh fuck hell yeah. I'll be there SEA vro. Just for setting expectation how many episodes are we watching. I don't think I can watch long, not a marathon kinda guy.
>>490201271
just one of each so 3 in total
>>490201413
Nice
>>490194725
last year
>>490191284
Good pypyin' pypyers
Next NA pypy is Thursday at 7PM PDT / 10 PM EDT
>>490203913
>hand on hip instead of the waist
that purple loli is up to no good i swear to god
>>490204927
the purple one is definitely the wholesome one there...
>only page 3
wow the thread sure is slow tonight
>Private servers already exist for Echo VR
WHY DID NONE OF YOU RETARDS TELL ME ABOUT THIS I WANT TO PLAY AGAIN
>>490207261
Do you want to setup a game session then?
What time (EST) is FBF gonna start on Sat? So I can plan my day with it in mind.
>>490211751
danke
so is wrc the new game we play now?
I want to do a meetup night where instead of the usual hangout maps and bars and small luxury apartments, the entire hangout night instance is in like, Organism or Epilogue Part 1 or some similar huge exploration map and everyone like finds little nooks they like and people can walk around to find groups and say hi and we can use the little hangout spots and bars and such built into the huge map.
Anyone else have any interest?
>>490213092
people get too split up for that to work, we do that during world explorations
>>490213092
That's what we already do during world exploration meets
>>490213194
>>490213397
The whole point would be having like a hangout night instance worth of people hanging out in a big cool map like that, so there would be groups roving around or hanging out in various spots.
World exploration meets are usually smaller in scale and are there to just walk through it all and then go to the next world.
>>490213454
>World exploration meets are usually smaller in scale
Our world explorations have 40 people on average. I think that's pretty large
>>490212643
The Dirt Rally 2.0 club is still up if that's what you're asking, but it seems like most everyone is moving to WRC, so I doubt I'll keep it going after the current event.
>>490213529
Sure, fair enough, but the point is I don't want it to just be people hurrying through, it'd be cool to have a big group of people hanging out there for several hours and making the space feel more 'lived in'.
>>490213621
Ah ok now you're making sense.
I think I get what you want now. Kinda like the Weekly Bar Crawl that NA does but for bigger less comfier maps that are about Roleplay/Exploration?
>>490213713
I mean specifically those Dr. Moro maps are plenty comfy and have lots of places to hang out just in a much larger context, but yeah
I just wanna hang out in a place taht isn't yet another bar or poolhouse or beach or penthouse apartment
>>490213841
I still think you'll get 90% of the experience you want already by just joining the world exploration meets we do.
The only difference is a big world is usually explored casually within 30 mins vs what you want which is 5 hrs.
Sometimes we chain big worlds together and so it feels "lived in" as you say.
>>490213562
finally 100gbs gone
>>490213092
I can't remember, does organism/epilogue have teleports to where other players are? Without it, if somebody crashes, or leaves and rejoins, or just isn't in the instance when a group first sets out, it's basically impossible to find anyone. So at best, everybody will just clump at spawn.
>>490212643
Well, there's just 5 members at the moment,6 with (You), it's just that WRC got blessed with presence of multiple compulsive webm makers, so it pops up in here a lot. It's a great piece of vidya though, deserves some recognition. I even played it on flatscreen for a bit before it got VR because singleplayer - despite being arguably bloated - was fun enough to convince me to ignore lack of VR for the time being.
Good stuff.
>>490144345
>>490184117
the delivery nigger a 250$ weekly wage, at 4$ per hour for 60h week would fit within the minimum wage of '91 NY. One slice was 1,5$, so the full pizza should be around 10$. Let's assume a generous average of 2,5 pizzas per order. Let's be very generous again and assume 80% of pizza price is profit and Papa Sal treats him as his son so he splits the profits equally. So to generate that 250$ he'd have to deliver 50 orders a week or 10 orders a day. Since he takes up to 90 minutes for a single delivery it's within the realm of possibility that Sal's is not actually losing money. Extremely unrealistic but technically possible.
>>490195376
>>490201271
Ah fuck I'm gonna miss this. Work called us in for overtime. Gomenasai anonnie, hope you guys all have fun still
>>490216745
sir this is a virtual reality general thread
>>490216920
I'd like to orderr uhhhh one VR headset with face tracking and eye tracking, scent tracking, haptics and a vrfu for $450.
I played vrchat with randos today and actually had a good time. I touched some vr boobies and flirted with a femboy fish creature. Got me interested in doing lewd stuff in vr.. maybe I’ll summon the courage to play with the vrg crowd soon
>>490221307
If you can survive a pub then you can definitely survive here. Take your time anon
There's a perfect event for you to join coming up this saturday, be sure to come by
>>490221307
sounds great anon! hope to see you around this Saturday
>>490221307
>maybe I’ll summon the courage to play with the vrg crowd soon
if anything, public instances are ones that require courage, not our cute anime girl verbal shitposting circle, but you'll most likely realize that once you'll drop by
>>490221307
>'i had fun in vrc'
>immediately wants to do vrc lewd stuff
i fucking hate what this platform became i wish i was there when it was just a silly fun place and not a virtual stripclub
>>490222309
Its both. You'll find what you seek
>>490194725
Yesterday.
I went to that JP Succubus bar. It was alright but not much to do if you don't speak Nihonese.
>>490222529
>rando jp coomer twitter event
peak eu hours
>>490222529
did they try to English with you at all?
is it possible to play vrchat without controllers, using some kind of hand tracking?
>>490224842
Yes. The VRC beta has gesture controls and steamVR skeletal input so you can just use quest or leapmotion or whatever hand tracking.
>>490224334
No. I just used the little Japanes I know and got 日本語上手ed
I wanna radius...
>>490221307
/vrlg/
NEW BREAD
>>490226576 (Cross-thread)
>>490226576 (Cross-thread)
>>490226576 (Cross-thread)
>>490195376
alright lads get in
https://vrch.at/k6yxb6vk
10m to start