/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1637

>>498186668 (OP)
>forgot to reorder the halloween event before Pokemon
its over im a failure.

Fags ruined VR

>>498186934
Facts

>>498186934
Trvth nuke

>>498188214
>When she hears there will be tall dark skinned men at the party

>>498188214
>>>/trash/vrlg/

Play Vivecraft (Ideally with friends)

>>498189397
I dont have friends.

>>498189397
Do the folks on the crawler.vrg server play regularly on any days/times? I'd like to play on it more often but I seem to catch the thread right after people log off.

>>498186934
where's woman?

>>498188834
>>498188214
Keep posting here pls

Last Quest exclusive slop of the day, Exploding Kittens VR, is a small miracle. Devs took a rather mediocre card game and transformed it into beautiful party game.

Core gameplay is the same - you have box (deck) of random items (cards) in between which there are exploding kittens. If you draw it and don't have defusal kit you're out. All action cards are represented by nice interactive tools and just about every gameplay mechanic was made into proper VR interaction.

Best part is the hub system - there are lobbies with multiple tables and people can freely walk and join between them or just mess around with tons of the cool minigames around. Or just sit and chat. I have no idea where those devs came from but they somehow managed to create the perfect party game that uses VR properly. And there's obviously unlocks and progression system for cosmetics to keep people hooked. Definitely worth a try.
TL;DR - average card game is now easily best VR party game

>>498191379
I don't plan on going anywhere!

>>498188703
nah I've got fatigue like you wouldn't believe

>>498160029 (Cross-thread)
Made sure to save this so I can show people my first reverse coconut decades later.

I wish more people posted their avatars in the thread.

>>498193729
Your honor, by "I've got fatigue like you wouldn't believe" the defendant was actually referring to being very tired. The prosecution has no evidence this was racially motivated.

this is scry

>>498194393
I'd rather not considering what the average vrg avatar looks like nowadays

>>498196090
Some of them are cute.

>>498196749
I would not call this cute

nigger

>>498196749
How's J?

>>498196749
That just looks like another generic booth

>>498196090
It’s not 2018 anymore old man time to let go

>>498194393
that's not how it works anon, you post others and then you hope someone took a photo of you so your existence can be somewhat validated

it's fun

>>498197120
>>498198210
Post your example of cute.

>>498199032
Not Manuka

>>498198957
True, just post your friends.

>>498199262
I'm not sure that's even a Manuka.

>>498193663
Are you trying out all the slop there is?

newfriend...

>>498200403
My standalone library is now at some 200+ titles so I decided to just try and review most of the ones that aren't complete memes.

https://streamable.com/n3a07u

>>498190532
We mostly play on Fridays or Thursdays at NA hours. I post about meetups on the thread ahead of time. It's fun, the server got migrated to a new machine so it runs much better.

>>498206819
oops wrong link
https://streamable.com/tj6bds

It is interesting that VR games can significantly offset a player's hands from their real position without this being perceivable.

>>498207473
It is interesting that VR games can significantly offset a player's sexual orientation from their real position without this being perceivable.

>>498209527
True.

>>498186668 (OP)
BONELAB IN FOUR HOURS AND TWENTY MINUTES

Mods: https://pastebin.com/R8WtbNf2
Make sure you have all of them. Especially the avatar mods, golden city, the car pack, and the props.

Join code to be posted when the server is up.

>>498204606
Whose the sticker on the bottom left supposed to be?

That was really fun

>>498211475
can you not just drop this all in a mega link?
Do I really have to install 40 mods manually one at a time?

>>498209527

>>498212101
happy to have met you tonight!! See you next time :3

is sea anime/explo in the next 12 hours? timezones confuse me

>>498213198
it is at 6am est

>>498213406
yeah but in the next 12 hours or in the next 36 hours
I live in one of the furthest timezones in the east and half the time it's not the same day for me as most people

>>498213572
It is in 9 hours

>>498213765
thanks bro

>>498213572
>>498213817
sorry im retarded i cant do that

>>498212508
If I did a single person adding their avatar to the list would result in a several GB download for what is otherwise a 20MB change. Two people are making custom avatars right now so the list is about to update too.
If you're lazy just get the props, avatars, and golden city.

>>498213134
Same to you :3

is there going to be another Hyper Dash game hosted?

>>498216685
do you want to play tonight? I dunno how many people would show on short notice, but it's easy to host.

Would people be interested in an old hag event where we dress like old people and maybe watch some black&white movies and play bingo

we can call it the age play event

>>498218637
Define old. Anyone over 25 is a hag and on their way to retirement.

>>498220214
Look around anon, there's a reason why the boomer is on our soccer team. VR is rightful 30+-year olds' property.

>>498218637
Idk about movies but i would love to play bingo with everyone here

https://vrch.at/5j5gpm4x

NA drinking instance if you wanna hang with anons on a saturday night desu

>>498223690
Is there an NA non-drinking instance?

>>498223836
why would want to not drink its so boring

>>498223836
u dont have to drink, its just what 75% of us do desu

>>498223690
can newfags come

>>498224103
yeah just bee youself

>>498212508
>>498211475
Recent update (two more avatar sets) has happened so if you have already downloaded everything, get the last two as well before joining in 2 hours.

Due to popular demand, a retard mode has been added to the pastebin right at the bottom. There are two download links, one for everything that goes into your game's root folder, and another for everything that goes into your appdata/locallow/stress level zero/bonelabs/mods folder. It should be enough for you to be able to join us today. It includes the recent updated avatars. Here is a video tutorial on how to join the server too. The server code will be posted when the server is up.

>>498188214

>>498223924
NPC spotted

>>498226012
They have the same killer smile face and have not been seen in the same instance together! Cohencedence? ITHONK NOT!

>>498226012
from_below is the miracle of the universe

I've been vr simracing on iracing and ac for like a year now, i tried vrchat a few times but its always full of kids or retards and none of the models that are free really appeal to me, where can i go to pirate more premium shit? i feel like a fuckin fag walking around as a woman or a twink man or a shitty port of a character from another game. i know how to use blender etc.

>>498225082
can you slow down?

>>498223690
Are there randos there?

>>498225082
I think I've got my freshly pirated copy working. We'll see in an hour. To anyone else trying: if you get the retard zips you'll still have to install melonloader yourself. Fairly simple, but an extra step from just extracting.

>>498231028
how awful

COME REDEEM YOUR PYPY POINTS NOW!

>>498231427
how much pypy points for a hug that's all I want

>>498231427
i can't believe you've done this

>>498231427
Piepie yuru

BONELAB SERVER IS UP
JOIN 76561198035953282

https://poal.me/j5xpbv
last chance to vote for NA anime tomoro

I can't understand the basic concept of being horny in vrc. None of the models are hot, even having a model with the penetration stuff just looks weird as fuck. Is it all a meme or are some of you legitimately into this?

>>498239948
Y'know how some of the jews ate rats while they were in concentration camps?

>>498240015
What an extremely specific way of making your point.

>>498240109
nta but I that it perfectly shows what jews are capable of when put under great stress. And we should all remember what happens when you corner a rat.
> Is it all a meme or are some of you legitimately into this?
Have you heard of furries? Are you aware they go to large conventions in fur suits(they look like gay sport’s mascots) and fuck each other while wearing the suits? But yeah it’s like that but with what ever avatars.

>>498239948
i think 2.5d anime is hotter than il so ymmv

>>498239948
im convinced it’s a meme that spiraled way out of control

we drive.

>>498194393

>>498239948
i see titty i jork my wenur
simple as

>>498240109
Insane how autistic I can tell you are just by this post.

>>498236209
good boning

>>498243615
nice zero anon

>>498248348

>>498236209

is there going to be sea explore today

>>498250096
yes, YN is out sick. JM will host it for a bit then British P or O will take over after 2 hours.

>>498251387
is that a shotgun axe?

SEA world expo, https://vrch.at/mkncn42w
see you nerds there

>>498251387

>>498251449
Yeah you can just weld objects together and they work.

sea explore, date with a succubus edition

>>498251935

Wow I guess they really can take four guys at once.

Chances Bonelabs MP becomes developed enough for VRFPS sloplobbies on day?

please dont feed the bears

>>498253060
Kinda already there. Host can select game modes, one of which is pvp. It's basically just a kill counter and scrambled respawn positions. Not sure if there's a way to make you always spawn with a weapon though. I imagine there would have to be a lot of house rules and weapons scattered about to make it truly work.

>>498239948
>None of the models are hot
This nigga not attracted to cartoons.

>>498239948
>some of you
head on over to /vrlg/ bud

>>498242398
>>498239948
The "meme" is the main reason people play VRC even outside of /vrg/. ERP culture has completely infected the game to the point where there's almost no community you can find anymore where it doesn't occur. Believe me, I tried to explore normalfag communities after /vrg/ got too faggy for me, it's no better anywhere else, and it's not going to get better.

Once enough of tupper's coomer friends joined VRC staff, they even changed their official policy from "Don't do 18+ shit in here, ever" to "don't ask don't tell just keep it private UwU".

>>498254057
Drinking and ERPing is 90% of the pcvr playerbase.

>>498254107
yeah? that's the exact point I was making

I remember years ago someone telling me the left topology is preferable to the right, despite having extra triangles and I can't remember the reason.

>>498254057
>>498254057
"Infected"
People are people, people are horny, people like sex. Sex in vrchat always existed, nothing has been infected.

>>498254219
Consider the possibility that I am not actually arguing with you, retard. You must get confused a lot.

>>498254668
It does not have extra triangles, right one is shit as it have a 5 point surface instead of 3 or 4 point.

>>498254780
the chad game rip vs the virgin booth edit

>>498254057
That's why I haven't been online in a while. VR games are cool but between getting annoyed at tracking or framerate issues I don't see much point. Conversation in general is pretty lackluster, peak time is just standing around drinking and flirting, no one makes cool original avatar tech any more, and no one really has any desire to change it. /vrg/ hasn't ever recovered from the coomening and somehow it continues to get worse. Blame whatever you like but without a solution in action it's meaningless.

>>498254668
>>498254789
And here you have the Best topology.

>>498254668
>n-gons

>>498254668
When it gets into unity it will take that five cornered polygon and either do pic related to make it into tris or just discard it depending on how it deforms.

>>498255029
>>498254980
>>498254789
You're misinterpreting it. They're all triangles.

>>498255094
Then you just have a seam on the edge where they're not connected. It will matter for normal direction and calculating smooth shading.

>>498252021
Grandma you have awfully long ears!

>>498255287
It's a flat plane so why would a perpendicular normal vector ever be incorrect?

little gondola fella

>>498254668
>having n-gons is a good idea
some people should just not be allowed

>>498256456
Jesus Christ, it's not an ngon. It's this without the gap in the middle.

>>498256503
>I model shit but I leave faces disconnected by choice
This is just a bunch of poor topology choices that’ll break your mesh down the line. You're still introducing unnecessary geometry, awkward edge flow, and shading artifacts. Whether it's an ngon or not, this mess is gonna haunt your UVs and smooth shading forever. Clean topology is key. Don’t try to bend the rules with sloppy connections.

What's a good image viewer for the Quest 3?
Ideally I'd want it to have SMB support and to be able to view images inside zipped folders and .avif support.
I tried sideloading MiXplorer, as that's what I use on my phone/tablet, but I can't get its image viewer to work on the Quest.

>>498256874
There's less geometry.

>>498256376
Cute spoopy gondola fellar

>>498257375
>muh polycount
Yeah, there’s less geometry but it’s still trash. Fewer polys don’t matter if the structure sucks. All those stretched triangles and janky edge flow are going to cause more problems than a clean quad-based topology. Less geometry doesn’t equal better if it’s cutting corners on quality. You’re just setting yourself up for pain when you try to animate or smooth it later.

But hey, fuck it. If you wanna model like that and find out the hard way, be my guest. Ignore the best practices that have been figured out in the last years. You seem to know it better anyways.

>>498256170
In that case no it doesn't matter at all. Topology can be as shit as you want provided it's functional. UV unwrapping, normal vectors, seams, automatic triangulation of deforming parts, and just general deforming all are affected by your topology. A flat plane that isn't going to deform should just be as low poly as you can make it unless you're going to use vertex lighting and want the resolution.

>>498257542
The flat surfaces are already ripped in the original topology to provide sharp corners. It is under the influence of one bone, so there's no complex deformation.

>>498257934
Good topology isn't just about deformation it's about making your model clean and predictable for whatever comes next. This spaghetti is a ticking time bomb.

You are moving the goalpost from the initial question
>the left topology is preferable to the right, despite having extra triangles and I can't remember the reason
to the now presented
>well actually it is just a plane and it is only specifically this topology and there is only one bone etc.
because you know the best practices and just wanna get your retarded edge case out of the way.

I did not check the size, whoops

>>498258172
that's what she said

Pretty

I guess this is the end of the road..

>>498258484

>>498257319
Default TV app should work for lots of stuff. Exotic formats you'll need something like Pigusus.

>Metro Awakening preorders open
>45 dollarydoos
What are they smoking?

>>498258146
If it goes wrong I can fix it, but I think you're just subscribing to a mentality of it being better to do something that always works, than whatever is best for the specific context.

Obscure mobile game port

>>498259887
Like I said, you are moving goalposts. Initial question was "broadly speaking" without any hint of something specific, but now you are all "nerdemoji well akshually if I do this one specific thing instead of the 99.9999% of all normal use cases" because you have one specific case where this doesn't 100% apply.
fuck off
good troll post
10/10
made me actually angry

Always on mirror...

I noticed that I can not do peace signs or devils horns anymore. Anybody experiences this as well?
I'm on a quest pro via steam link (steamVR beta for finger tracking). I tried all settings with the "legacy fingers" but it doesn't seem to work.

>>498260232
I was trying to establish if there is an inherent reason to never do it. It's not an made up case and is something I am actually working on right now.

Another pretty butlaggy

>>498260756
>ahem akshually it's not made up
>akshually working on it right now

>>498254668
>I remember years ago someone telling me the left topology is preferable to the right, despite having extra triangles and I can't remember the reason.
You didn't try to establish shit.
No context, no "specific" case, no details.
You asked, you got told, but in the end you knew it better. Good for you.

>>498260664
vrchat got rid of it for quest. it's index only from now on

>>498261080
I'm just too autistic to communicate, I guess.

>>498258484
Bdunttsshmm

>>498260458
Always on mirror is only ever acceptable for artistic purposes

would

>>498261321
Kino like my south korean k-dramas

>>498258358
they made vrchat 2...

>>498262437

>>498262437
>>498262585
is this how zucks metaverse looks like?

>>498262663
No but to be fair it has official Wendy's world.

How does people so casually move around in all axises like it is second nature to them?
I understand that you use OVR Advanced Settings, but what is a good setup with index controllers?

>>498260756
>I was trying to establish if there is an inherent reason to never do it.
You can run into precision issues where you end up with visible cracks due to t-junctions. The vertex sitting on the edge might not be exactly the same as the point you get from interpolating the two vertices of the long edge which can result in slight differences when the triangles get rasterized which result in visible cracks.

the classic tree on flat plain with no frames map

>>498262437
I rember this map. Nice they made a sequel eh

>>498263208
i think i like old one more

>>498262817
bind it to the trackpad tohchpad

>>498262437
SOUL
>>498258358
Soulless

>>498264475
That’s cool as fuck

huge map; i'm dropping a chill map here, just join on me

AMONG US!

More slop, this time Pixel Dungeon. Imagine Ancient Dungeon and Dungeons of Eternity had a baby. Good voxel graphics, great art direction, nice music, room randomiser is decent.

Supports 3 player co-op and solo mode which has less enemies unlike co-op room that will swarm you (found out the hard way), lots of perks to unlock, weapons and upgrades, character skins, game modifiers and dungeon styles, you name it.

Combat is pretty floaty like Ancient Dungeon but hit detection is good and enemies have clear attack patterns. ITR style backpack is nice and you get free map sphere DoE style. With perks you can build something akin to traditional trinity archetypes so that's cool for co-op.

Obligatory ubeatable boss in tutorial was actually nice, enemies in general are much better than AD, less annoying and more actual kiting and parrying like in DoE. Music is surprisingly good and the design of the haunted library was cool, too. Nothing grounbreaking but solid roguelite dungeon crawl.
TL;DR - better Ancient Dungeon with some Dungeons of Eternity DNA, great for small co-op or quick solo dungeon romp.

>>498265328

>>498266015
https://store.steampowered.com/app/365900/Pixel_Dungeon/ uhhhh

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3063750/Pixel_Dungeon_VR_COOP/ oh, its not out yet...

>>498266541
It's in EA on Quest and free demo is out both on Quest and Steam. With AD being basically abandoned in its current state this is the next best thing.

>>498239948
I like erp in vrc because it's like making your own porn except you can be all at once the director, actor, and editor. I used to write erotic stories for a living so this is like erp 2.0 to me. Most people just wanna get off to anime titties but I see it as making art, sexy art.

even though i can look into my monitor all day no problem, with my quest if i wear it for an hour my eyes start to feel tired. I wonder why that is.
I have tried eye drops and made sure the ipd is tunned correctly.

>take picture
>get "photobombed"
I accept this photobomb, thank you. I should have put on my elbow trackers but got lazy.

>>498262306

into the sunset

Can other people see what you've bought on booth? Asking for a friend of course, haha

if i want to use my hmd as a monitor replacement so have a virtual screen inside it, i should place the virtual screen the the focal distance of the hmd right? so for quest 2 that would be about 1.2m away, so that the focal distance of the lenses matches the virtual monitor, is that correct?

So by now I figured out that I can also not use avatars that another anon was able to use and do "peace" and "Rock n Roll" on the Quest 2.
For some reason ever since the newest update on vrchat, I am not able to do those things anymore.
My setup is Quest Pro, via Steamlink.
Doesn't matter if I am in the beta branch of steam vr or steamlink. It stays the same.

So there must be something else.

>>498269109
The solution is : Play VR games

>>498269109
i have the same problem on pico 4

>>498269274
Oh thank god I am not alone.
I didn't change any settings, so it feels like it really is VRChat fucking something up with their update. Once again.

>>498267161
LuxVR maybe?

>>498268497
Having kk in the picture enhances it’s value by x100. You should be happy

>>498269274
there is shared pico 4 binding which makes it work. called pioc 4 commands or somethig

>>498269187
nigga shut up

totemo artist

>>498226803
I like symmetrical_docking

VRChat FPS is not THAT bad...

>>498276741
I was in an instance yesterday and a guy was complaining about his fps. He checked everything from drivers, to resolution and other programs. What he didn't realize was that there where 5 very poor avatars with a total of 1 million avatars right in front of him. +1 if you count his.

>>498269109
out of answers and I am kind of posting this everywhere because I am desperate
a cry for help, if you will
https://streamable.com/vaq0e7

>>498277594
1 bad avatar especially with tonns of animator layers alone can eat like 10 ms on cpu

>>498278041
is it something to do with the hand tracking updates?

Does unsubscribing from a Contractors mod remove it from your mod folder? I want to clean all the ones that stopped working after the Quest update from it.
I miss WAW Cliffside...

>>498278913
Forgot pic

>>498278263
I have no idea. Found other anons with Quest 2 that don't have that problem, so I am fully aware it might be some of my settings, but I legit don't know what settings.
I haven't changed any of my settings in weeks.

>>498269106
It will work basically the same at any distance.

>>498269106
It shouldn't matter much. The only thing i found is that when enclosed within that focal distance, like in a tank, I found I'd get eye strain and would start to get uncomfortable faster. but the monitors won't really do that.

>>498278041
if I remember correctly, settings I use to have the gestures back is legacy tracking in the radial menu + finger tacking exclusive mode disabled + avatars use finger tracking disabled (in your video, last 2 are enabled)
Will double check all settings when going online tonight if that doesn't fix it for you

(continuing from >>498282320)
Additionally, if changing those settings doesn't work, you may want to double check that the capacitive touch of your quest controllers are still binded within steamvr controls/mapping

>>498278041
when I have gestures turned off in the radial menu (for sleeping) it makes my fingers move like that
I have a CV1 and I cant do those finger movements normally with the gestures turned on

probably isnt the fix but have you double checked your gestures are turned on in the radial menu?

>>498278041
[Avatars Use Finger tracking] under [Settings][Controls] is basically a use-skeletal-input toggle. I forget if Touch controllers provide the same skeletal gestures as VRChat does.

>>498282320
I just tried that, with the end result that the fingers then didn't move at all anymore.

>>498282642
Just to be safe I my old bindings, as well as several others including the standard one:
All had the same issue

>>498282906
I'm sorry but I don't understand that one. Is it something to your avatar specifically (to deactivate facial gestures, maybe?). Because I don't see this option with other avatars.

>>498284164
I played around with those settings, but sadly nothing helped.

thank you so far, anons
I think I'm having a melty right now, because none of this makes sense.

come play some geoloator
https://vrch.at/2psc85jd

>>498284757
Looks fun. Wait for me Anon!

>>498284673
>I'm sorry but I don't understand that one
open the radial menu and click the options at the top and there should be a button to pause gestures somewhere on the right, its a hand symbol
might not have anything to do with your issue but it does produce the same finger movements on my CV1 controllers when using it so its interesting

>>498275983
Need. More. Update.

Wish I have Shezarr Type equipments.

i can't be bothered with vrchat anymore
had a great time 202p using my brother's index, but it isn't the same these days
i'm too old and jaded to try and make meaningful conversation and connection with 20 year old men in anime girl avatars through a screen strapped to my head
im not blaming them, im probably the one that's changed, but i remember it being a lot better than now

>>498286353
Have you tried playing vr games

>>498286457
still having fun in modded skyrim vr
just feel no desire to load vrchat
started getting my social batteries recharged elsewhere, even though vrchat was the whole reason i bought my own index in the first place

>it's another episode of normalfags on 4chan

>>498287329
been here for well over 15 years, and done my fair share of utterly depraved shit
eventually, you will be forced to participate in the real world, and it shifts your needs if you end up doing a few things right

>>498286792
>started getting my social batteries recharged elsewhere
what, via sleeping?

>>498288258
no
i got dragged into a dnd group at work that had 6 people and branched out of it to find new friends that don't require that i abuse substances to hang out with them

sign language is up! come and join us:
https://vrch.at/j7wz6t65

>>498288079
I dread the day my work schedule changes and it clashes with everything I want to do in VR.

>>498289184
oops, fell asleep after my alarm and was late thanks for getting an instance up before I got online

I don't think I'm in the mood for rage golf today but I could do some fishing in an hour.

>>498290363
Sure. I'm still pissed from the last one 2 weeks back

Important new lore for the Pokemon Gijinka event

Doing some Catan at 9PM Cest, that is in 1 hour 10minutes from this post.

>fell asleep right before SEA explore

We gonna watch Ghostbusters tonight, 12pm EST

>>498286353
VRChat's starting to get pretty stale for me as well. I can only sit around in a circle and drink every weekend for so many years in a row before it starts to get uninteresting.
It doesn't help that it feels like there are no cool maps or game worlds released anymore, everything is just chillslop with a "spin the bottle to see how much you drink" wheel in it now.

>>498292080
There's some ghosts I'm gonna bust in this halloween does that count

>>498292325
There's plenty of cool things to look at and see anon, the main problem is it's buried in such a deep pile of club or apartment maps that it's hard to find anything

do people make fun puzzle escape maps anymore
havent done any in years

>>498281727
wrong
if the lenses are set at say 1m focus then looking at any vr object outside of that distance causes the eyes to focus on object distance when the actual focus point remains at 1m, and this causes eye strain

>>498292080
it's 2 hours past that...

Gonna be opening Unity for the first time in half a year, any cool features I should know about?

>>498294080
no

>>498294080
VRChat now uses their own thing instead of constraints.
That's literally it.

>>498285136
Anon I could kiss you.
I found it under
Options -> Avatar
I swear to god that I never touched this one before and it was month when I last went into that subsection of the radial menu, but for some reason it was deactivated. Somewhen between last week and this week this must have happened, I don't know.
However, this was basically the solution.

Que a rant why some settings are radial menu only.

>>498284757
moving to spirit speak
https://vrch.at/stejpgb3

>>498292080
>>498293348
12am, im retarded.
you know what i mean

>>498293263
I don't think so. It seems to me that the eyes only deal with focusing and the screen is always at the same distance. The brain can interpret a 3D image and thus false distances from the differences between the picture from each eye, but the eyes themselves just make the light converge whether it makes sense or not.

>>498289184
Great meet today, glad we got to sign about haloween and not get too confused by haloween being signed basically the same way as the sign for vr

>>498270008
Yes

Fishslopping:
room: vrrg
0815

>>498294080
For vrchat avatar dev, modular avatar/vrcfury/avatar optimizer are quite usable now. Way nicer than mucking around with animators and stuff yourself, for simple toggles and world-space props and stuff. Also if you're doing more complex animator gimmicks, https://docs.hai-vr.dev/docs/products/animator-as-code is great. I used it to (re)make this thing that takes midi input into a piano roll, which works by moving a bunch of particle systems around and toggling them on and off. It was 90% less painful than the last time manually built it (in 2021) clicking around in unity to make all the animations and blend trees. Code looks like: https://gist.github.com/hiinaspace/dec40d1cb3516315e59f74c0c9d67a66 , and as usual claude 3.5 wrote 80% of it correctly, after I put the official docs in context.

For world dev, I don't think there's anything groundbreaking this year, but I'll continue to shill https://realtimecsg.com/ as way better than mucking around in probuilder.

I feel like hanging out with some bros in vrc
anything happening in the next couple of hours?

>>498291029
Lobby is up, lets goo
https://vrch.at/jpvashgc

>>498299569

when people say they watch vr porn what do they mean?
because i tried downloading some 360 porn videos and they are fucking GARBAGE, just like all 360 videos are, so surely they meant something else

>>498297023
Woah wasn't expexting such a thorough answer, thanks a lot.
>>498294286
Looking forward to trying it out.

>>498300516
Gay sex with anime girls on in VRchat.

>>498292325
Whats a cool map or gameworld in your eyes? Theres slashco, all these various racing maps, terror of nowhere, 3 mahjong maps actively in rotation(not including tilegun), a chronic shitload of other card games, theres that poker casini map now. That canae or whatevee its spelt board game too. It just sounds like you arent even looking. Maybe make your own map or forlon hope host your own instance of one

>>498300852
>There's [list of maps that have existed for literally years]
I want something new.

>>498301201
Okay, like what?

>>498301201
Unfortunately I think the meta for finding good new worlds in vrc is japanese twatter, which I don't have the stomach for. There are luckily a few non-twatter sources though: https://emymin.net/vr/worlds/ has categories and an rss feed, and https://vrg.party/worlds.html tracks screenshots posted in the thread.

idk people should just post their favourite map of the week or something or any time there's a new map they like add it to some pastebin that gets updated with some justification why it's worthwhile and what it's about

>place japan, vrchat
:(
>place japan, vr fishing
:)

>questies are impressed by skyboxes
we live in a society

>>498295616
murder!
https://vrch.at/amq3gw7q

>>498303878
>he thinks he's immune to being impressed by skyboxes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f05PwswO7qc

My but plug fishing chair ran out of power.

>>498301770
>unfortunately
fr
tried to join one that popped up in the random page recently and it had a fucking japanese grammar test to filter foreigners

when is this guy gonna get back online? i been waitin!

returning my quest 3
i hate the latency and compression looks terrible, even if i max the bitrate in VD, its not my networking, its the XR2 being shit at decoding.
Lenses are nice but i wasnt blown away by them and the resolution increase is nice but its not a good resolution.

>>498307905
what other headset are you gonna use

>>498284757
Thank you for hosting. That game really works well in VR.

>>498308795
im going to go back to my index for the time being.
Will look at getting a PSVR2 or Vive Focus Vision, since theres not many other DisplayPort options on the market, Pimax seems okay but its just too bulky and heavy

>>498309086
you want to ditch lighthouses?
options in that ecosystem would be:
>vive pro 2 (sale to match index hmd cost atm)
>beyond
>memeganex superright if it exists
pimax light is apparently kinda marred comfort-wise by the cable despite being a lighter hmd than the original crystal

>>498239948
>Is it all a meme or are some of you legitimately into this?
I just like futanari and vrc has a lot of it. Its better than just watching hentai because people can face fuck you with their futa cocks and Its like you're in the hentai

>>498311691
no id prefer to stick with lighthouses, but no headset actually worth buying.
i already had a beyond and hated it and i doubt the meganex will actually release, just like their last 2 headsets.
Im keeping the extra tracker i bought for my quest 3 so i can just mount those to whatever headset i buy next.

i just got vr and have been trying vrchat

>join random great pug worlds
>within 5-15 min get called a tranny and get kicked from the world
>if not that, surrounded by children calling me gay

im not even a tranny i just have a girly voice

>>498313262
Time to do voice training to get a deeper voice. Kids back in the xbox live days did this, you can too.

>>498313262
post it

>>498313262
Just bass boost your mic you tranny

>>498313805
>>498313660
>>498313596
i mainly just want to ask if this is going to be a constant thing in this game should i just go somewhere else becaus it seems like its most worlds that are like this

>>498314064
It will happen everywhere you go regardless. Either you'll meet regular people that will assume you're a tranny and not want to associate with you, sympathisers or groomers that want to take advantage of you, or transphobes that will abuse you. Fix your voice and you can go anywhere you want and enjoy anything you want without this bullshit. Blame the tranny movement for this being such an overblown problem for you.

>>498314064
public worlds are full of the lowest form of retard
it will happen a lot less outside of publics

>>498257428
Ugh real?

>>498314064
public worlds are an absolute cancer, you have to be in at least a friends+ in order to enjoy this game

>>498299569
>>498300127
Thanks for playing, my camera still takes pics too big to upload, so can't attach it.

>>498314985
get this for tampermonkey

>>498314064
That’s just shitty public worlds. Don’t go to quest public worlds. You should check out communities that meet your interests maybe join on a few of the smaller weekly events we host here.

>>498313262
pubbies are not people

when EU and NA pypy meet

>>498314820
Don't listen to this tranny retard. Stop hiding in privates. Grow a thicker skin.

>>498317524
It has nothing to do with how thick your skin is, public worlds are full of children and the lowest IQ denominator desktoppers.

>>498314820
most ppl i have been adding arent ever in those instances since i meet them in publics. they just go to other public instances. is there a way to break into the private instance scene?

>>498318476
join /vrg/ instances

>man it sure does smell like shit in here, we should go somewhere else
>WTF DO YOU MEAN JUST IGNORE IT LOL GET A BETTER NOSE THAT CAN JUST FILTER OUT THE SMELL

The thread is fine and in the best state it has been since early 2018.

>>498319384
this shit is literally on life support 90% of the week

>>498319384
yikes

NOOOOOOOT NOOOOOOOT

>>498319816
>>498320275
What do you miss? The 24/7 schizo melties?

>>498320865
I miss the thread actually being fun (and fast)
You can't have based without cringe and the drama is part of the fun sometimes.

>>498320865
OC, funposting, basically stuff that actually keeps a thread interesting to browse

>>498321094
>>498321151
go back

>>498321264
you go back

seems like you're the redditor who came to 4chan to complain about shitposting
shitposting is an integral part of the 4chan experience

u guys like my new vr shoes?

>shitposting is an integral part of the 4chan experience

>>498321483
post toes

>>498321264
Go back to where? 2018? Do you have a DeLorean I can borrow?

>>498321592
>I come to 4chan for productive, on topic discussion about VR games!
>I love discussing Fresnel lenses by the way!

>>498322335
>I come to 4chan for high school girl (trans) drama

>tfw bought a powerbank for my Q2 eons ago but haven't touched either since
give me motivation to VR again...

>>498323295
>lose argument
>starts screeching about trannies

>>498323436
couldnt even post a proper gif you double retard

>>498323640
you don't deserve a gif

NA anime tonight at 10 pm est in vrchat
https://rentry.org/i3t5ozt8

Puniru - 01
Puniru - 02
Dandadan - 01
Dandadan - 02

New sealson is beginning. We are picking up the above for sundays and Mecha-Ude and Kabushikigaisha on wednesdays. For the first week, we will be watching only the airing shows to catch up, and then after we are caught up the non-seasonals will be mixed back in, leaving the airing shows starting at 11.

>>498323436
>wants funposting in the thread
>gets immediately offended

>>498314064
Yes in public worlds its fuckin cancer. Literally never go to them ever. Find a group, stay with group. It's the only way.

>>498323342
Play vr games


>inb4 there is no games to play

maybe you just don't like video games then?

>>498324623
>funposting
FUNPOSTAN' IN TEH MAIN THREADS :DDD

>>498326879
NEKO

can some nice anon provide some marubody outfits?
Not too slutty would be prefered

I just woke up are there any instances up?

>>498257428
ugh fake?????

>>498327407
cuuute!

>>498327407
what world!!!!???

>>498239948
You must be this /a/nime to be sexually attracted to these 2.5D models anon. I am sorry for your loss

>>498268918
No

>>498318713
Don't do this. Browse the thread but never go to a meetup. This place is full of trannies, robo-trannies, faggots, e-daters and groomers. They also go to IRL meets and have gay orgies with drugs.

>>498275814
Lmao wtf is this? Some map maker’s avengers assemble thing?

>>498289727
Now apologize by making a webm of an apology entirely in sign language

>>498290669
I can’t anon my brain. This is too long

>>498291047
See you next week anon

>>498333313
I was so pissed off when I woke up
I went for the first time last week and it was really fun and really wanted to go again this week
but at least I'll be even more excited for next week

>>498292325
There’s a lot of cool maps to experience with friends in VRchat. The sea and na Exploration events usually go to them.

The main issue is the god awful discoverability of maps in vrc. Basically if the map you uploaded didd not pop off for the first week it was uploaded it is now burried in a metric ton of trash maps that are just chill world with spin the bottle thingies.

We sorta sidestep that limitation by following fellow photographers and explorers in twitter who share interesting finds of the week. So we have to suffer through less trash during explore.

We are planning on making a /vrg/ Exploration hub with our favorite map picks soon! Steve is kind enough to offer some of his autism and time to place all his faves and everyone else’s into an excel file.
I just need to get on the making of the UI system gor it

>COOL GUYS DON'T LOOK AT EXPLOSIONS
>THEY BLOW THINGS UP AND THEN WALK AWAY
>WHO'S GOT TIME TO WATCH AN EXPLOSION
>CAUSE COOL GUY'S ERRAND'S THAT THEY HAVE TO WALK TOO

>KEEP WALKING, KEEP SHINING
>DON'T LOOK BACK, KEEP ON WALKING
>KEEP STRUTTIN', SLOW MOTION
>THE MORE YOU IGNORE IT, THE COOLER YOU LOOK

>>498292646
Yes! Search for Puzzle Hub

>>498297023
You are hampering yourself as a world maker if you don’t just use BLENDER for worldmaking.

>>498302534
:)

>>498315047
Nta Holy fuck you are a life saver thank you! I will now install your dolphin porn

>>498314985
>>498315047
>we've reached the level of zoomer tech illiteracy where they can't even do the most basic of image editing

>>498331582
I’m trying to rememeber but it was a random japanese map. Sorry anon

>>498333465
>even more excited
Hell yeah!

>>498326389
somebody saved my gif!

>>498315047
4chan-xt also has a built-in button to compress to jpeg if it's smaller. Worth upgrading if you're still on the 4chan-x mainline. xt is the only active fork now.

>>498335047
I’ll take an insta forget it plug and play than needing to fumble around my folders to resize something before saving as something else then posting it from another folder.

>>498335432
ive had that gif saved since at least 2017 anon

>>498314064
The main problem is that you went to public Great Pug worlds, the worst place to be in VRC.

You should go to friends+ PC only worlds and get yourself a group of friends.

>>498336151
How do I get a group of friends?

>>498335472
>new fork
neat

>>498336078
i thought so because of the name, which is the exact same as on my pc :)

>>498336151
Ignore this guy. Keep going to public worlds
>>498336227
By talking to people. That's how we did it before vrchat groups and discords just sped ran people to a friend group

test

>>498336381
If he doesn't want to be surrounded by children calling him gay, getting namecalled and kicked within 5-15 minutes, as he says, then he should ignore you, because that's what you get the most in public Great Pugs. At least it's a PC only world, though.

>>498334583
CSG is way faster and more flexible than polymodeling when you're prototyping a layout. You can still export the mesh to blender to do the final modeling and detailing, and even then the csg mesh can still be worth using as a collision mesh, since it's perfectly watertight and simplified.

Heyo anons, reminder that the Pokemon Gijinka event is in less than a month, on Saturday Oct 19th at 9:30 est, with a group photo planned at midnight EST. There are an adequate amount of hats for those who have not had much time to work on an avatar. Hope to see you all there soon!

>>498336227
You try to join the various weekly gatherings here and see what activities you enjoy. Once you narrow in on a gew you really like, continously do so on those few and long before you know it you now have a group of friends :)

>>498337029
>children
There's no children in the pug so what are you even talking about?

>>498337235
Less than a week, copy/paste-kun

>>498337127
>can export the mesh
Ok you may be onto something here then. I’ll think about this for prototyping

>>498337283
>various weekly gatherings here
Absolutely not. This guy is trying his hardest to groom you. Don't join any "gatherings here"

>>498337235
See you there!

>>498336284
u sure u didnt save mine?

>>498337685
no anon, i've had it for like 2 years..

also she needs correction.. im going to plap her...

>>498337356
Anon, OP himself disproves you with his own post stating several experiences with children in that world. Children get drawn to easily accessible worlds such as that one, so naturally you'll find them there, too. Worse yet, because it's not a game world, they won't be preoccupied and seek out things such as running around and calling people names for attention - which is why OP had exactly these experiences.

>>498338346
BITCH I ALREADY GAVE YOU A 50% DISCOUNT. Take the fucking candy and get the fuck out of my store!

>>498337907
>ive had it for two years
from discord or /a/?

>>498338346
Oh OP is just retarded then. He is not gonna have a good time on this game, public or private.

>>498338491
i got it on some random board, by some random anon. then i renamed it to FUNPOSTINGG.

>>498333032
maybe if i get in vr later

>>498337587
But if I don't join any of the gatherings here then how am I suppose to get a group of friends?

>>498338757
mine is funposting, ingg, and inggg based on filesize limit for board cuz the og is too large for most boards

>>498338948
kek, nice anon. i respect it.

https://vrch.at/2jyrmjx7
mahjong, come drink and clack tiles

Any interest in doing vrc poker later??

>>498342691
i dont know how to play. do i have to know how to make a texas hold em or royal flush or is it prety simple

>>498343104
It's all automated and the prefab has a guide diagram of all the hands you can get. Very simple

>>498343104
just go all in,every time. Then play mahjong. 2 people waiting for a table btw >>498341846

>>498324015
https://vrch.at/fsunk73d
anmie

>>498338938
Look man I'm autistic and I have hundreds of friends on VRC. If I can do it anyone can. This isn't a good friend group though. People only like you if you wear a booth avatar and put out (gay e-sex) its all 40 year old creeps

>>498248348
>>498248447
>>498248814
>>498248851
>>498248965
>>498249507
>I missed bonelab

>>498345019
Wanna play right now?

>>498345240
i do

>>498345240
I can't right now!!!!

>>498342691
If I bust you of all your chips can I suck on them titties

>>498332674
is this real? serious question
sounds terrible

REMINDER CHRISTMAS IS COMING!
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Sign up for /vrg/ Secret Santa!

Due to poplar demands the current live updating wishlist of 2024 is also now available
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So be sure to start signing up and start that rolling bowl of Christmas merry!

>>498332674
>>498349335
the irl meetup i've been to was the most fun i had in the last decade of my life, dont listen to that schizo

>>498349426
wtf duki actually caved to people calling out his retardation never seen that before

>>498349591
that's all well and good, but are you gay and/or queer and/or trans? and were there majority of their people there also such?

>>498349768
no
but none of us treated ourselves so seriously nor cared
i think you are a schizo anon

>>498341846
2 tables 3/4

>>498350927
last time I opened up to a vrg hag here I got burned and heartbroken, fuck women.

>>498350927
>because its easier
So this woman understands that women make men's lives harder on purpose for fun for no reward for them but is still confused why men would rather jack off in vr instead?

Whewww, just beat SUPERHOT VR on Hardcore mode. That was awesome. Needed a cold shower after that one.
More challenges tomorrow. Should be easier.

>>498350927
she looks 18. at that age, all men older than you are just trying to manipulate you, and all men your age are retarded.
things get easier around 25

>>498350927
Femoids seething is good

>>498292080
>>498295708
here we go!
join in:
https://vrch.at/pefmbt08

>>498324015
good amimes, thanks for coming
see you on wednesday for mecha ude and kabushikigaisha

>>498359976
Mahgroooominggg...

was there a new vr pokemon game in the leaks?

>>498359976
>>498350602
Was a good time K, Imma try and hop back on to get fucked over by RNG again in a little bit if y'all are still goin. Gonna go play some mechwarrior with someone for a bit.

>>498360873
Do you want to do pokephilia and vore pokemons and viceversa? in VR

Huh this japanese event is popular

>>498362230
yeah it blew up thanks to this streamer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQbbp6u_mWo

>>498362550
Amazing. is this like a normie jp streamer getting introduced to progressively more and more niche vrc stuff?

>>498362550
>>498362230
I want to see more JP stuff that isn't fetish events...

>>498363603
yeah, though he's kinda mellowed out recently. I think his VR arc is over

>>498362550
His early streams with the worm alien was great, i especially liked the one where they went to a festival world. Wholesome.

>>498364993
>his VR arc is over
Danggggg. Well as long as it helped general awareness of vrchat that should be good. Variety streamers need to keep moving to spice up things for their viewers

>>498362550
Damn that is going to fuck up my youtube recommendations.

>>498365093
yeah he actually made a whole story arc of sending the worm alien home and then visiting him on his home planet

>>498365101
there's actually a thing in jp called the スタンミ効果 which refers to the surge of new players ever since this guy (sutanmi) started streaming vrc

>>498350927
You have no power here!

>>498350927
Shut it fleshlight that cries

>>498365248
Japanese Jameskii

>>498362230
My friend told me we should make a /vrg/ breast feeding event. Would this be a fun and good idea?

>>498318713
Do the exact opposite of this:

>>498332674

Play VR games. Don't touch this thread.

>>498365874
I liked naggz21 more and is probably closer to this sutanmi guy

>>498365876

>>498365997
Ok

Windows update automatically upgraded my GPU drivers WHILE I WAS USING THEM and crashed VR
Honestly what is wrong with the jeets at microsoft

>>498365876
we did have the milk day event way back when...

>>498266015
finally got some time to try the demo. I don't know much about the devs but I liked it.
the music was good
it may/may not have some sound effects ripped from WoW lol
combat maybe could use some balancing. first run I entered a room and got swarmed by like 10 things
I beat the skeeton king just by running away and crossbowing him like a coward though.
slashed my finger into my OLED monitor hard enough to almost push it 12 inches down into the desk on it's mount but everything still works so I got lucky
feels like they just made a better DoE with voxel graphics

>>498366231
>jeets only hire jeets
it's getting worse

>>498366231
IS THAT WHY MY VR CRASHED LIKE THAT

>>498286353
>20 year old men
/vrg/ unironically has one of the oldest median ages of all 4chan communities. Nearly every long-term, active community member from the heyday and beginning of popularization of VR is 30+.

>>498276741
we need to normalize ostracizing and bullying optimizationlets
they need to be laughed and kicked out of instances
forced optimization of ones avatar is a bulwark against normalfag randos and low iq schizos

do your part,
do NOT show avatars below medium rank
REFUSE to interact or even acknowledge them

>>498369630
yeah, anyone here who bemoans only being able to run into 20 year olds is either overexaggerating to the extreme, isn't actually part of /vrg/ and is talking about joining random publics, or only hangs out in instances full of literal who newfag randos and tipsy tuesday runoff.

>>498369630
the YOUNGEST yellowname I actually hang out and interact with on a regular basis is 26

>>498369779
>>498369879
>>498369630
stfu faggot oldheads go get a family and fuck off retard boomers

>>498369630
2020 was 4 years ago

>>498370063
...yeah, so people are 4 years older?

The OG community hasn't really reclined in size much, and there isn't really a massive influx of 18 year old people funneling into /vrg/ specifically. You're able to just IGNORE newfags you don't want to talk to, you realize?

>>498369951
this is the most transphobic comment I've read in a long time I'm shaking.

>>498370345
>>498370063
>>498369951
>>498369879
all me btw

>>498371280

>>498371393
Failed.

>>498371280

>>498371280
You gain your avatar being shown by everyone not having a +16GB VRAM GPU

>>498371552
Not my problem

>>498362550
IT SHOULD'VE BEEN ME AAAHHHHHHHHIEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

>>498371552

>>498300516
anyone can reply? it was a serious question
is there any actual good vr porn? or do people who watch vr porn actually mean thos shitty 360 videos?

>>498372673
>is there any actual good vr porn?
The only good vr porn is VRchat until we can have lightfield or live gaussian splatting videos
6doF or bust

>>498372673
Virt-a-mate is the best single player VR porn "game". there's some private youtube guide from a guy but I can't remember the channel name. it showed up on google when I needed it. the UI and performance sucks but it's still the best I've tried, especially with passthrough and virtualdesktop

>>498372673
VR porn videos are garbage

>>498371280
Do you take VRChat's ranking seriously or do you look at other metrics to gauge avatar performance?

>>498373549
You think people who don't bother to optimize for one are all down with making an avatar in 'very poor' but actually performs well?

>>498373549
>wah my special use case
if you take 100 very poor avatars and put them in a benchmark against 100 mediums what the fuck do you think the result will be

The rankings are about statistical averages.

>>498372673
>or do people who watch vr porn actually mean thos shitty 360 videos?
people who say they watch vr porn dont actually have vr headsets and are just making shit up
vrchat is vr porn but actually interactable and with real people you can make connections with, think about it for 1 second and you should understand why its superior and why everyone (100%) uses it over the alternatives

>I am 30+ year old bald or norwooded loser but I act cute online and have a female avatar, so you should treat me like a princess :3
Vrfu for this feel?

>>498372967
you say this but I am too small brained to play it

>>498374790
without the guide I could never have figured anything out
i still frequently run into issues I just have no clue how to fix
it is not user friendly at all. here's hoping vam2 has a dumbass mode for us

>>498372673
i think the only good vr porn is from Japan, it's like ASMR but sexual. Obviously you need to know moonspeak or have it subtitled to enjoy it though.

>>498373549
As great a cope as "BMI doesn't work".

>>498373549
>Do you take VRChat's ranking seriously
Yes, absolutely. Is it flawless? No. Is my game running butter smooth ever since I've blocked off very poor by default? Yes. It clearly works, and I'm happy to contribute to that with this minimal effort of spending extra hour on preparing a processed, optimized version, especially since more often than not it all boils down to using a couple of cats features.

>>498375225
>vam2
2 as in 2 more weeks

>>498373549
Serious enough to not completely shit on it. Yeah.

>>498373549
The big irony about avatar optimization is that you do not do it for your system. And most likely your system doesn't even realize if your avatar is optimized. It is done for the sake of everybody you encounter.
And since we are living in a time and age (especially here) where people think about themselves first, you see "very poor" with several uncompressed 4k textures on multiple outfits everywhere, even though they most likely wouldn't need to be with some very simply tricks.

>>498373549
>t. 2.4 million polygons with 46 materials and 8k textures while still looking like absolute trash because you have no taste

>>498367025
Devs is quite literally Chang and his gang. Some Chinese guys that just make clones of popular VR but somehow they manage to make the clone better. Their other game, creatiely named Horror Multiplayer, is phasmo knockoff that plays much better than current phasmo.

>>498376258
your own avatar fucks with your performance just as much as anyone elses avatar
you just dont notice it because its always active at all times and the shit performance just becomes the baseline

>>498376914
Always funny to see these retards complain about vrc having terrible performance
>wow wherever I go the frames are terrible, must be vrc

>>498376914
>>498376981

The idol event was performing very good because "good" avatars or better were enforced.
The regular instance with not even half of the people in there performs like shit, because all are very poor.

Clearly optimization makes a difference.

>>498376914
>>498376981
Did you read this as an argument as to why not to do optimization? I was making a point that, to affect your own system in a meaningful way optimization needs to be propagated more so others are doing it as well.

>>498377303
Nigger I do not have to disagree with you to quote your post why are you like this

>>498376258
I don't think it's directly selfishness, but a new mindset of minmaxxing ones life that has developed over the last decade or so. To play video games you pick up the FotM, do nothing but play the meta, burn out as fast as possible, then move on the the next game. The more games you can consume, the better. As for avatars they can simply download a prefab, change a few public parameters, upload it and it "works"; that's the their optimum despite it running like shit and severely limiting what they can actually do, they've avoided the time they would have had to spend learning about Blender and that's a net positive in their perception. I think it's a consequence of web 2.0 where there's suddenly quantifiable metrics on everything: you know exactly how many people watched a piece of media, how much engagement a social media post received, who is the best at anything in the world. People have grown up with this and it has mindbroken them because human brains have never been equipped to deal with it in all of human history.

>>498377453
still not opening blender sorry

>>498377453
I think you're just extrapolating people being lazy with whatever you're thinking about at the moment. People just don't want to spend the energy or time on things and will make up sour-grape tier excuses.

>>498377418
Can you show me where my post hurt you?

>>498377557
That is an excuse that wasn't valid since at least a year. Tools for this exist in Unity already.

>>498377752
d4rks optimizer does a lot but it can't hit at most of the core principles of rendering performance.

>>498377813
>I will not open blender, where I can do everything perfectly
>the tool in unity which does some things good does not everything perfectly
>might as well not optimize at all

>>498377568
It's a change in mindset I have witnessed, especially on 4chan. Here, it used to be inefficient perfectionism. It was still around to some extent in the early days of /vrg/ where many would insist on one material and one drawcall. 10 - 15 years ago, we'd probably have a mindset of everyone should be making their own avatar from scratch using a specific obscure 3D modelling software instead of Blender or you're a fucking casual. Maybe it's the influx of normalfags and they were always just lazy. I feel like even the autism has shifted from becoming ridiculously good at things to just having an obsession with time management.

>>498377813
>d4rk's optimizer for joining skinned meshes
>hai's prefabulous for removing tris
>thry's VRAM Evaluator for downscaling your textures
You have no excuse

>>498377303
neither of us are arguing against (You)

>>498377169
wish /vrg/ would have a culture of bullying people with very poor rank the same way we bully IMVU eyesores and furries
I remember a few years ago people were more vocal about it but it cant go anywhere on its own since midwits outnumber everyone and they will always be as lazy as they can get away with
and actively enforcing it would make people lose their minds

Reminder not to bother trying to optimise if you don't have the ability to get the avatar above very poor.

>>498378115
I think it's instead more that back in the day you HAD to learn how to use these tools and optimize or you had no custom avatars at all. Remember tupper's tutorial; it's a long ass tutorial covering hundreds of little things and it's the bare-ass minimum to do before you can get anything usable in VRC. Unity prefabs have since come out that both skip 90% of that work, and add in WAY more features. The amount of shit you'd have to do to make even a handful of modern avatar features is way higher than it was back in the MMD upload days. Nowadays you just import, click a few tools, and your avatar has polished nipples, 20 outfits and a full custom simulated game of tetris on the smartphone prop out of the box.

It's just not part of the mandatory skill set any more.

>>498378259
I'm not saying don't use it but it feeds into the point I make above.

>>498376809
yea, I only mentioned the devs because when I clicked on their steam page it had stuff like "horror multiplyer" lol
it ran well and had all the fun parts of both ancient dungeon and DoE though...so uh maybe I don't mind it being a ripoff so much

>>498378334
>neither of us are arguing against (You)
thanks for clarifying. I legit can't tell here sometimes.

>but it cant go anywhere on its own since midwits outnumber everyone
I blame /trash/ for this, newfags come pregroomed and just want to goon, download some prefab and enter the masturbation session. That is their first point of contact with anything vrchat related. Of course they will not care about anything with performance.
Sure, they will throw on an outfit on their fotm masturbation helper, but it's just surface level editing. Their priority is not being somewhat optimized (medium or higher) it's to look pretty for the next goon sesh.

>>498378435
If we had current year mindsets in 2018 then I don't think the majority would have been forced to learn the custom avatar pipeline. They would have just pressed their trigger on an avatar pedestal then stand their ground that anything more is just a waste of time. If there's ever an in-game avatar customisation system that can do just enough, then even a Unity prefab will be considered too high effort.

>>498378726
I don't mind either, they might be copycats but if their copy ends up being better than original then who cares.

>>498378968
>they might be copycats but if their copy ends up being better than original then

>>498378851
I don't think there's that much overlap between /vrg/ and /vrlg/

Is this another case where the JP community is better than the EN one because people actually give a shit about basic things like model optimization.

Anyone up for bonelab EU? I'm thinking of hosting an hour or two on a weekend, probably this week's Saturday in a bit earlier night hours (18:00 UTC?), though no idea how that'll fit into an event on 19th. It's reasonably easy to set up, network sync is leagues above anything you'd expect from this kind of game, and most of all, it's properly fun with friends. For a quick testing session, we'll probably screw around in a sandboxy world, do some pretend gmod, build some arenas, kill each other a whole lot.

>>498379745
I'd be collecting avatars through week if you're into the idea of importing your own one, and I'll put one or two standard booths in case you want to have a default without using an actual ingame defaults.

>>498379745
sure sounds fun
was a while back since I last played bonebob

>>498379696
lmao
kek even
they don't give a shit, JPs are usually the SOURCE of all this horrible unoptimized garbage

>>498379637
JP's are allergic to blender and way more optimized

>>498332674
It is quite literally what you make of it. I don't surround myself with coomers and I have a great time in vrg because of it.

>>498379637
>>498379696
this had to be a bit

>>498380031
Eh I'll see for myself soon enough. I'm looking through model rips since I got a new VR headset recently and want to try out VRC again but holy fuck all the Western ones are overdesigned as shit.

>>498379745
Multiplayer works with a pirated copy, right?

>>498380227
Western ones are also bad; typically no-one gives a shit. JPs are bad as well. You could make an argument that western shit is EVEN WORSE but that doesn't excuse anyone.

>>498379905
Alright then, Saturday 18:00 UTC it is. Looking forward to see how well it goes, if I could interact with anons between continents in US hours, then it has to be even better in local environment.

>>498380249
Can't tell for sure, but given it's a mod, I wouldn't expect it to check for a genuine copy. I'd assume you most likely want the latest version of the game at very least, but I really can't tell how it'll go.

>>498380227
>>498380031
JPs were the first ones to popularize Unity-only workflow with shitton of skinned meshes while most westerns at least tried to follow Tupper advice of 1 mesh (even if no one gave a shit about atlassing).

>>498380340
What's the latest version?

>>498380670
patch 6

>>498380281
JPs used to be alright on basic level, unoptimised but nothing you wouldn't see elsewhere, but with the rise of titsposting on Twitter and arrival of PCSS the average JP avatar is always on directional light 40 materials 4k textures abomination. Same with KR and TW. Bonus points for multiple grabpasses for glasses and earrings and pray to god the person in question didn't find the raymarched phone screensaver prefab. It's just grass is greener on the other side of fence effect, general level of optimisation nowadays is "buy 4090 and turn safety to max".

If you want to bully people into optimising then name the worst offenders.

>>498373549
I try to optimize on all VRChat metrics but all my avatars are very poor because of the polygons. I don't optimize to have a better rank but to have a more optimized avatar.

>>498380340
Finally, a lobby at a good time for me.

>>498381017
>raymarched phone screensaver prefab

I'm scared.

>>498381638
High poly counts can be unoptimized, especially on skinned meshes with shape keys and complex shaders. That is unless you are switching which meshes are active, then it's essentially free aside from the increased download size.

>>498381638
People in the thread don't seem to care. You're very poor so you're an unoptimised piece of shit.

>>498381965
How do you propose we separate people who did and who didn't if they're both in the very poor tier?
That's why you should care; the tools VRC gives you to filter out bad performers is not good enough so we have to work avatars into that system. Modded VRC used to let me filter avatars by individual stats.

>>498382237
It doesn't matter to them. You're very poor.

>>498381965
>>498382543
based cheap rhetorics anon. so brave, so powerful

>>498382661
It's exactly what people here said.

>>498381965
In the majority of cases very poor will mean horribly unoptimized and in almost no cases will it actually be well optimized. Even if you're toggling meshes on and off, that will still involve compromises that likely put you in "medium" at best by even the most objective ranking system. As I said before, it's the same cope as "BMI doesn't work"; if you're not a top tier body builder then it is absolutely your fat putting you in the obese category.

>>498382543
Missing the point champion 5 years in a row

>>498382746
You need to use the word "literally" more

>>498383379
Literally why?

>>498382836
No anon, because I know this one friend of a person I talked to once, and he was just 1/3 poly over the limit and was very poor because of that.
Clearly that means all of the performance ranking is shit and we do not need to care about that anymore.

This is a joke, because brainlets here do not grasp the concept of "on average X is true"

Im 200k polys but my material count is 31 wich makes it poor. I feel it unfair I should be in the same tier as 500 mat 1 million polys TDA because I just happen to use a piece of booth clothing with 80k tris.

>>498384201
Protip: both of those avatars are awful.

>>498384273
Why, I'm not the one that made the clothing. And just being a few thousand tris over the limit of 70k, wich is outdated is not an issue.
Comparing me to some 500 mat TDA abomination is wrong. VRC needs to fix their avatar performance rank to reflect the whole avatar and not just each stat.

>>498384583
73,000 polygons is 'a few polygons over'. I honestly can't tell if you're joking or not.

>>498384583
31 materials is not acceptable.

i want to try vrchat but boy oh boy, i tried recording myself talking to check how i would sound on the mic and i sound so fucking boring, this generic slightly nasal neckbeard voice
this is going to suck, the vrchat tubers i watch all have colorful voices and personalities while my voice sounds about as much fun and energetic as watching paint dry

>>498384678
70k is literally outdated, 200k is an resonable amount.
>>498384717
Less then 32 wich is the limit foer Very Poor.

>>498384981
Oh you're retarded

>>498384981
There is no legitimate use case for 31 materials on a single avatar.

>>498385182
Typically these levels are hit with lots of outfits on the same avatar. While it is true that many of the materials and meshes won't be actually activated and therefore not taking up performance (besides VRAM/RAM), it is also true that outfits are split up into more meshes and materials than they need to be in order to be more customizable in unity, so the rendering workload for the outfits when on is higher than they should be.

>>498384940
>i tried recording myself talking to check how i would sound on the mic and i sound so fucking boring

Nobody likes how their voices sound anon, I felt the same way but I even have dudes say they like how I sound

Try adjusting the volume of your mic to see if you can change how you sound, did that with my mic & they said I sound like a different person

Hopped into VR for the first time this friday getting sloshed at a group meet & I had a blast

>>498385290
Protip: the same material on multiple objects is still just one material.

>>498384940
calm down, no one expects you to have a professional entertainer voice. my requirements for voice in vrchat is to be able to understand what other person is saying, and even when that requirement is not met, i can still laugh and hope dude was talking about something funny and not his biggest childhood trauma moment

It's what you say that matters, which is also a whole different challenge on its won. Regardless, there are many quiet/mildly doomy anons who are still somehow a blast to have around, so I'd say you can work with just about anything.

>>498385713
>>498385319
which mics do you use? just the once on the headset? i have seen most vrtubers are shilling that one magnetic usb c mic for about 130 buckaroos

>>498385835
Index microphone is excellent, other headsets are ranging from nearly just as good to uh, less than perfect. But if you don't like your voice, I doubt you'll fix it with a microphone. You might be able to improve it through joining and talking though, can't beat practice.

>>498384940
You hear your voice differently than how the rest of us would hear it. Reason for that can be googled, but tl;dr is it goes through your whole body and sounds different because of that.

Second of all, you don't need to be a vrchat tuber or an entertainer. Just be a friend. We have all sorts of voices in here, from high pitched femboys, to deep monotone ones, to robot tranny voices. And nobody really gives a shit about it.

Also, believe it or not, once you are more comfortable with using your own voice, you usually also start to talk a bit more self-assured, which in turn makes you sound quite different as well.
Looking forward to talk to you!

>>498385835
I got a quest 2 mic that I use & got no complaints about how I sound

>>498386027
>once you are more comfortable with using your own voice, you usually also start to talk a bit more self-assured, which in turn makes you sound quite different as well.
Actually true, noticed how after talking to dudes more I feel more confident

>>498386239
Forgot to add but when I got more confident I stutter quite a bit less & think about what to say more instead of blurting stuff out

>>498385835
Every headset has a mic, and if it works it is good enough.
Yes, some headsets are blessed with better mics, but they will not make your voice sound different in a way that would satisfy yourself if you dislike your voice. The only thing it changes is "clarity", if that makes sense.

The magnetic USB c one is most likely that modmic-thing. Yes it is neat, but if you are doing it wirelss it also introduces a new layer of latency.
I'd really urge you to stick to what you have for now and upgrade later if you feel the "clarity" is not enough. It will NOT change the tone of your voice.

Is there someone I, as a stupid and ugly person, could commission a VRchat model from? I'm jealous of everyone but don't have the skill and knowledge to make my own.

>>498386930
You could just ask blonde K and I'm sure he'd make you a random kitbash. He made me one for free.

>>498386930
>but don't have the skill and knowledge to make my own
anon it just takes a few hours to make something good from scratch with 0 knowledge
its mostly just compiling a list of assets you want to use, dragging them into the project and running an optimization script if you wanna be a good boy

>>498386930
There is someone who does really cool Vroid-Models that don't look like Vroid models anymore. Don't know how much they are usuable in vrchat though.
If it is done from scratch, it ususally is round about 2k if done right

>>498386930
Last I checked D does commissions on models.

>>498387160
>make something good from scratch
>its mostly just compiling a list of assets you want to use
That is not what people here mean when they say "from scratch". That is what TDA creators say is "from scratch".

>>498386930
do NOT do this
commissioning shit it ungodly expensive for subpar quality and you will not have any knowledge on how to maintain it so if an update breaks anything or you want to add more clothes/do literally anything you are fucked
making a basic booth avatar is basically just putting legos together and there are short and easy to follow youtube tutorials aimed at adhd zoomertoddlers available for everything

>>498387485
It's also what vrg booth users mean when they say "From Scratch"
Muh TDA have been a strawman you point at for years now.

>>498386791
>>498386027
I agree. People always shit on the hmd mics, like quest mic so baaaad, but thats bullshit. Quests have pretty good microphones, and i know that from experience as i own both q2 and 3 and the mics are clear with basically no noise, there is no need to upgrade to a better one at all unless you want to record music or such.

>>498387701
I have not seen any booth-anon here saying they made the model from scratch.
Surely you will point out who said things like this any second though.

If you wish to make an avatar from scratch, you must first invent the universe.

>>498387485
from scratch as in having 0 knowledge and just starting out on the journey of making an avatar
literally no one models their own avatars directly from the default blender box and it also wasnt what the commission anon was trying to do

>>498387797
Ye, the anon you replied to here
>>498387160

>batman
>metro
>behemoth
>ayyliums
>maybe starship troopers game
>maybe trombone champ or more info on roboquest
games looking pretty good over the next couple months.
what are you guys looking forward to? Sucks batman is standalone only but I think the other 3 are all on pcvr at least.

>>498388261
roboquest is the one I'm really looking forward to
as for all the standalone stuff I'll give it a pirate and see how it goes but except for batman I don't think they'll have very thrilling gameplay

>>498388164
I got got.
I consneede

>>498388156
>from scratch means having 0 knowledge and just starting out
>load in prefab into unity
>have zero knowledge, so I need to look up a tutorial
>takes me an hour to figure out
>do it step by step
>upload a standard booth model with no change
>use it in vrchat
I made it from scratch btw.

>literally no one models their own avatar
Yeah no shit, because it involves work. But lazy fucks lower the meaning of what "from scratch" means so they can feel like they belong to the people who actually and literally make a model from scratch.

>wasnt what the commission anon was trying to do
He never said anything from scratch. The first time it was mentioned was in the backwards answer >>498387160 , where (I guess it was you?) had this insane take on "from scratch".

>>498388404
metro has more gameplay videos showing up
looks pretty good to me so far, at least it's a story mode single player depressing russian apocalypse game, so I'm sold.
conflicted on the Aliens game. no real gameplay shown yet and now some people are saying it's a roguelite? I dunno, my expectations are low but I'll probably try it.
dunno about behemoth, looks neat

>>498386027
when you listen to your own voice through a recording that's exactly how every person who hears it think you sound like

>>498380249
I can confirm it does, using the latest clean steam files on cs rin ru + goldberg emulator. There's no other drm you have to deal with.

The MP mod itself uses steam networking, so you still have to be logged into steam to join and it'll use your real account (not the goldberg config'd one), which is a little freaky. You could make an alt steam account if you care, but I doubt the mod is going to snitch.

>>498390837
Yes and no.
Yes because of the obvious reasons of you being able to hear your voice outside of your own head.
No because other people do not have a very heavy prejudice on how the voice is "suppose" to sound.
So while others don't know any other voice coming from you, you do. This is why your voice sounds different or even jarring.

>>498390837
There's still a difference because you hear it relative to what you're hear in your head.

>>498385365
No, it isnt, drawcall wise its different materials. Instancing works weirdly in unity so usually it doesn't work. The only thing what is reused is vram

>>498391167
Does VRchat count material slots or unique materials? I don't remember.

>>498391105
>>498391142
but it doesn't matter because no one else except for you will hear your perception of your own voice. the voice that you hear through the recording is what everyone else hears so it is essentially your "real voice"

>>498391317
>except for you will hear your perception of your own voice
Welcome to the discussion we had hours ago, anon
:^)

>>498391317
>but it doesn't matter because no one else except for you will hear your perception of your own voice.

>>498391105
>So while others don't know any other voice coming from you, you do. This is why your voice sounds different or even jarring.
I thought that was clear from what I said?

>>498388261
Thrill of the Fight 2 will have a multiplayer only early access in November. I look forward to beating the snot out of quest kiddies.

>>498386930
Just ask in-game or in a vrg related discord server for help and someone will guide you through the entire process
If you are not afraid of namedropping yourself, i'll dm you

>>498391075
Is it the Spacewar thing? I'm a bit paranoid so I might buy it anyone then.

>>498391075
What crack do you use to play MP? Goldberg?

>>498391285
Slots, as it should

>>498394094
Ok, 31 isn't as unreasonable as I thought.

>>498369630
ok boomer

I feel like we could do some more DbD slop tonight at 18:00 GMT or 19:00 GMT, whichever anons prefer.

Inverse is pretty competent DbD clone, slightly janky but fun in the usual headless chicken running away way same as DbD.

It's multiplatform and crossplay, if you're on Quest I can send you a copy even.

>>498396747
>25 bucks
is it worth it?

>>498394378
If they are all active at the same time its extremely unreasonable. You should omly have like 5 active at the same time at most.

>>498396910
Regional pricing algorithm must hate you because it's 10 shekels on both Steam and Quest for me but Zucc decided to give me targeted sale for 1 shekel which is why I'm offering to gift it to people.

It is definitely fun when you have full or almost full team, AI is sorta useless. 5 maps, 2 killers, plenty of perks, looks good and runs fine. It's pretty competent as far as clones go, nothing mind blowing but solid party fun. I wouldn't pay 25 shekels for it tho, if you're on Quest hit me up, if on Steam it's available on usual key sites for under 10.

>>498396747
18 GMT sounds good to me, I'll be there.

>>498397674
Oh shit you are right. 15 bucks here on steam.
Just saw a review from when it came out and it was 25.

>>498379745
Sounds awesome, I assume you're going to be working off the same modlist that the other guys were using before. Not heard a peep of there being an EU time for this Pokemon event but I wasn't going to bother either way as I've got my hands full with the Halloween outfit.

>>498398246
Oh ye, for 15 it's definitely good deal, it even has short singleplayer campaign to guide you through the maps and perks.

Anyone played Burst?

>>498337235
>Gijinka
>anthro phantasy animals
>furry event
vrlfg is on the red board

>>498401604
*fantasy
*vrfg
You’re mom.

I'm really putting in effort to be nicer. Most likely will not always manage. Have patience please.

had anyone ordered the vive focus vision? it releases this friday

Hi, Monday Chess + Mahjong will be at 21:30CEST/19:30UTC (~2h30 from now) as usual
As usual we will start with 1h of chess followed by mahjong at 22:30CEST/20:30UTC (~3h30 from now)

>>498406820
Oh also I forgot, boredom tea will be tomorrow at 18:15CEST
> What?
An instance where people are encouraged to join for a cup of tea and eventual snacks if they fancy it. The instance will be closed after 30-45min
Likely in a simple room with a table and a video player
> Why?
To share relaxing time before bigger instances and after work. With a focus on things having to stay calm and simple. Making it time limited to ensure it is meant to be an in-between time rather than something big. For that reason it will be posted in the thread but as invite+

>>498406534
fresnel lenses
$1000
no

>>498408281
newfriend not using meme arrows
cringe

>>498406534
retard kys

>>498408523
we've been using them for over a decade now sometimes they get boring, cockmongling nigger

>>498407185
>as invite+
gets me every time

>>498408983
>cockmongling nigger
projecting your bbc fetish again?

>>498409134
>tries to pull someones 4chan card
>pulls his own

art imitates art

>>498393720
No. Since the game isn't MP itself or do any workshop stuff, all goldberg does is get around the "did you buy this" authorization check from steam_api.dll . I didn't see spacewar show up in steam status either. I think it's perfectly safe to pirate and use an alt steam account if you care.

>>498393919
The fusion mod somehow uses its own steam dll to interact with steam networking, not attached to the actual official game at all. So goldberg's own networking stuff doesn't affect whether you can join.

>>498400061
yea, it's basically Bulletstorm + Borderlands + Alyx at home. You can see that overall devs really follow the Half Life way of making games. Good campaign, fun story, nice spiderman gloves. Dumb AI (until they get more gadgets) and weapons interactions could be more polished. Solid 10 hour of a good game.