/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1652

>>503797763 (OP)
NIGGERS

>>503797763 (OP)
/vrg/ soccer returns for the official /vg/ League 23 Tournament starting this weekend!

This Friday, November 29th @ 21:00 UTC/4:00pm EST, /vrg/ will take on /ddg/ (Dragon's Dogma General) in a rematch from last league.

Next Sunday, December 8th @ 21:40 UTC/4:40pm EST, /vrg/ will go up against the gachashitters of /esg/ (Eversoul General)

Finally, on Saturday, December 14th @ 21:00 UTC/4:00pm EST, /vrg/ will be matched against /nepgen/ (Neptunia and Compile Heart General)

VR watches on those nights @ 11:30pm EST except for probably the Sunday one which will be rescheduled to a Friday or Saturday viewing.

First post for the uncomfortable truth


>Deckard is yet another XR2 device.
>SLAM camera based tracking.
>No lighthouse compatability
>Controllers are tracked by cameras on the headset. So no tracking behind your back or whatever.
>No full body trackers which would just work. Welcome to hybrid hell.
>Controllers have optional shitty straps. Controllers have no fingertracking.
>Deckard is running Arch for ARM with deckard interface for VR interface, which will always be barely functional and half complete.
>No display port input, WiFi streaming from PC only, but most likely with eye tracking and foveated compression.
>has waydroid android emulation layer, so devs can upload standalone android APKs built for standalone games to run on Deckard with emulation
>The games will run worse than on Quest due to emulation layer slowing them down
>Valve will push for "you can play all flat games on big theatre mode overlay, see our controllers have all the inputs from XBOX360 controllers!"

Index was a peak of VR HMD design, it only went downhill from there

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>>503797997 (Cross-thread)
Here fixed with some added plastic.

>>503797996
It is over, and I fail to see why you should but the deckard over a Quest. The best thing about Valve VR was native SteamVR integration.
And Index controller is how VR controllers should be, you can let go of them, and grabbing comes natural.
What the fuck is Valve thinking?

>>503798310
>melting down this much from a fucking controller render leak
lmao

How exciting the thread will be for the next few days! we all get to shit our pants over a blender file!

Retro Runa or Retro Cyant? I'm only uploading one.

>>503798504
you wouldnt have it any other way anon

I just ordered a Meta Quest 3S. I've never even experienced a second of VR. What am I in for?

>>503798407
Maybe because Im a VR enthusiast, and the future is looking fucking grim rn.
>>503798768 (Cross-thread)
Wands, WMR, Quest 3, throw in the xbox 360 controller since that kinda counts now after these leaks.
>>503798154
Yikes.

>>503798969
shoulda redeemed quest 3 instead

>>503798969
oh big time fucked up buddy! the two weeks are up and you couldn't hold out.

>>503798969
Golden age of video games if you aren't afraid to try unknown IPs

>>503798969
Imagine what Valve imagine the future of VR to be like, and with a Quest 3S, you can experience that now, for like 1/3 of the price.
But also what this anon said
>>503799220
Games like you have never played them before.

>>503798969
>What am I in for?
Congratulations on your transition.

>>503798407
>he can't put all pieces of the puzzle together

>>503799220
This.

Price predictions on the TRUE 3rd gen VR headset?

>>503798407
>Freaking out this much just because some Ukrainian DJ2 drone is hovering above you.

>>503799778
500 bucks

>>503799778
$1000

>>503799813
There's no way they can do an all in one headset on par with the Q3 for that cheap.

>>503799778
Probably the same as the Index.

>>503799781
this is sad, you're a psycho anon

please god (gabe) let it have equivalent lenses/optics to Q3
I've been waiting for 2 weeeeeks

>>503799778
$2500Aud

>>503799781
i don't speak /pol/schizo.

>>503799956
Oh god we potentially have the fresnel reveal to go through yet.

>>503799778
if its uOLED then its not gonna be cheaper than $1.5k, most likely closer to $2k

>>503799956
valve would be insane to release anything that is just up to par with quest 3
thats throwing in the towel
that's admitting defeat
that's taking a shit and then eating it off the floor

>>503800062
oh lol please I can only get so erect

>>503797763 (OP)
reposting since valve timed their (((leak))) at the end of a thread

>>503799778
>vive has discounted their standalone hmd
it's actually fucking happening

>>503798504
I am hoping for an actual Deckard release now. I'm a Quest Pro enjoyer but been using it for 2 years now and there is no quest pro 2 in sight. If Deckard comes it might be my upgrade

>>503800469

>>503800485
that's probably just for (((black friday)))

>>503800485
OMG are those Roy controllers????

>>503800458

>>503800574

>>503800513
There is nothing to suggest Deckard will have facetracking.

>>503800574

>>503800458
New thread friend bump >>503794929 (Cross-thread)
NA exploration happening right now come join if you wanna chill explore in vrc

>>503800610
>heres your controller bro

>>503800513
If it's in EV1 stage then we'll have to wait 6-12 months

>>503800678
silly valve goofed and pushed a master blend file for ev1s to production

>>503800780

>>503800574
Steamdeck without screen. Most likely with IR leds for tracking...

>silly valve goofed and pushed a master blend file for ev1s to production
>Deckard delayed due to pajeets

>>503800904
input profile for deckard

vrcompositor bindings for deckard
>>503800930
>tracking
only reason it would have a steamvr render model, yeah

I am reasonably proud of myself.
I made a prop that interacts with other avatars for my secret santa. I might even be done with it this week! This is pretty cool!
It also was the very first time I did something with the avatar dynamic contact thing, so I hope my recipient is nice about it

>>503800610

>>503801148
yea...

>>503801112
Well done santa anon. I'm not good enough for contacts, it's scary to implement. Looking forward to see your target use your creation.

>>503798154
these things dig into your hands and aren't adjsutable for hand sizes

>>503801314
I'm realistic, he might find it funny, but I don't think he will use it for long. But that is fine. 5 minutes of fun is better than no fun.

>>503801102
placeholder for bindings
nowhere near 2 weeks away

>>503801945
2 more years...

>>503800780
>>503800904
>>503800678
>>503800469
>>503799778
>>503797763 (OP)

Are we sure it is camera tracking? I don't see any holes for cameras.

>>503802050
oh sweat summer child

>>503801891
True. It'll forever be in their avatar list though which warms my heart always. All my gifts I've created is lodged in someone's avatar list and sometimes even worlds over the course of making gifts in secret santa for years.

>>503802050
camera tracking as in tracked by cameras in the headset, anon

>>503798969
beware the vrc to trans pipeline..... ooooooooo!

>>503802145
>>503802185
....oh god... oh god oh no... I thought at least like QP
oh god oh no oh no oh god please not, please not dear god please no

>>503802050
camera tracking as in cameras on the headset tracking the controllers, the common inside-out option.
instead of the inside out tracking like the index currently uses

>>503797763 (OP)
Big misstep if there's no handstrap. Quest 3 controllers are the most ergonomic VR controllers, they're extremely comfortable and would be perfect if they had a high quality Index style handstrap. The third party Q3 options simply aren't good enough in comparison.

>>503802275

>>503798969
THE FUTURE OF GAMING unironically. I can barely play any flat game after I got the taste of VR.
Also you will have motion sickness that you will need to learn to eventually acclimate to.. Don't force yourself and take breaks if feeling queezy.

>>503802331
brad claims its optional: https://x.com/SadlyItsBradley/status/1861548908175888844

can we all collectively shun Yuki for a week or so?

*blocks your path*

>>503802439
>you will have motion sickness
don't lie to the new anon, most people do not have inferior genes and will not ever get motion sick

>>503802618
*kicks it to the side*

>>503802504
>grip button
>implies no individual finger tracking anymore
>battery door
>you need to replace batteries

I will just cope that this was a planned leak to make things seem worse before they announce the true controllers and headset in 2 weeks

>>503802653
I'm telling the truth. Most people get motion sick that's why it's a big issue online among new VR users

>>503802618
just like pimax blocked their users paths in vr with adverts for their new wireless adapter lmao

>>503802774
>most people
a few genelets. It's a possibility but don't scare the new anon by telling them it WILL happen

>>503802774
most people got sick from playing doom and quake, anon. It's just a thing which some people have which passes at most in a few days if you just play video games.

>>503802852
Finneeee. It's a possibility new fren. If it occurs to you though, don't force yourself and take breaks. Forcing yourself through the queeziness will make your brain register the headset as poison.

>>503802504
Best outcome then as far as handstraps are concerned. First party quality and easy to replace.
Some people will never accept it but swappable rechargable batteries are better than fixed internal ones.

>>503802275
quest pro controllers are fucking awful so thankfully not
however we will still be living in the zucc timeline where valve bent the knee and went to camera tracking as well

>>503802774
>Most people get motion sick
no they don't

Link to the world hop?

>>503802724
>I will just cope that this was a planned leak to make things seem worse before they announce the true controllers and headset in 2 weeks
considering they leaked the entire current evolutionary timeline of the controllers...
yeah no this is it
unless devs receiving ev1 units hate it which they wont because they are developing for quest controls already

>>503803194
add this guy as a friend and then join on him https://vrchat.com/home/user/usr_34e7de8f-fae9-4f49-9e93-284998676330

>>503800725

>>503803196
>yeah no this is it
haha no no anon this is a planned campaign
;_;

>>503803383

>>503803196
devs cannot receive ev1 units of controllers. It's a proprietary infrastructure now, they'd need also the headset. We won't be able to mix and match controllers and headsets anymore.

>>503802989
only if the valve ones are adjustable still
if they aren't, its trash

>>503803735
>devs cannot receive ev1 units of controllers. It's a proprietary infrastructure now, they'd need also the headset
how else do you think devs are gonna port their shit to the new ecosystem bro?
its all part of the same kit
they get the kits to do the work and sign an nda

>>503803251
Thanks anon

alright bigscreen, its time to show us what you're INSANE new project is that Optimum hinted at
this is your time to shine and make Valve look retarded

>>503803573
cute can I make you my doll?

>>503804084
desu I'd be happy with just a bigscreen beyond with:
>Included audio strap
>Adjustable IPD
>Universal face gasket
>Lenses that aren't shit
Bonus points if they make new lighthouse-tracked controllers

>>503804459
even the view and menu buttons are asymmetrical

>>503804459
>Nobody doing these renders has taken the time to fix the surface normals
Goddamnit.

>>503769016 (Cross-thread)
>>503795046 (Cross-thread)
what weird timing, the wides on /a/ were watching amadeus yesterday or two days ago on cytube i think
which of you is it.

>>503798040
gonna ERP in my room

>>503804212
Go pet them anon. Make your claim.

while the thread was seething, i just enjoyed a couple more rounds of pavlov in public lobbies of snd with snoy crossplayers, on my index, and you know what, i am content.
even if deckard is trash, even if someday i will have to leave my beloved index behind, one thing that will forever stay with me is this medium, VR, vidya, the friends i met along the way, and this industry as a whole.

what im saying is, i think the most important part of all of this is VR, not the device we're using to access this medium.

:)

(:

>>503805996
>i think the most important part of all of this is VR, not the device we're using to access this medium.
NO FUCK U. MY CHOICE OF BRAND AND COMPANY IS MOST IMPORTANT AND THE BEST. YOUR CHOICE IS SHIT AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD
I hope you die of cancer for choosing Index

cute falseflag

>>503411210 (Cross-thread)
>leftovers
Thankyou anon. I have no one else to spend the holiday with but you. I'm thankful for my VR family.

>>503806654
that's really, really sad anon. if you come to poland you can dine with me and spend Christmas with me and my family.

im serious.

>>503411210 (Cross-thread)
How can I passthrough a questpro to still see anons avatars and my food?

>>503803573

>>503800725

>>503807490

>>503807521

>>503807490
Biblically accurate uuuhh

>>503806953
>poland
Bro you are going to make him even more depressed.

>when you dont even fit in with vrg
Its so over vros

>>503807762

>>503808001
this is a good thing by the way
if you're actively attempting to fit in here then it's truly over

>>503807803
https://youtu.be/veayhCb_W8M?si=96YsnZ4BVDMfW9uc
>nooooo poland so depressing and scary nooooo oooo boooooo i hate the clean streets and safe environment

>>503808073

>>503807687

>>503808716
The booba brigade!
The Pillow Trio!
The Hopes and Dreams!

>>503808425
>>503808840

>>503808832
Enough cuteness to power a whole country in the palm of my hand

>>503804459
Those steam controller buttons looks like something out of a wojak

Why aren't we talking about the real game changer?

>>503809029
are those photoshopped on

>>503808257
The problem is you guys are my last resort. The last time I spent time with vrg was when that fag Dot was around. The only people I see regularly are asleep. I may just be anti social.

>>503809154
most definitely

Why does everyone say AV1 is so cool? I think h264+ looks better still. except for really dark spooky games
not that I can see anything in the dark on Q3 anyway, shit like phasmaphobia and metro have parts where i have to "feel" around in the dark by walking diagonally until I find a lightsource
>wow just like real life you can't see in the dark!

>>503809302
Then don’t make us your last priority!
Sounds like an easy fix anon
Invest in the people here a bit, find the group you most resonate with amongst /vrg/

Give thanks this Saturday at /vrg/ wrestling. Royal Rumble returns for Season 3:2 Thanksgiving Special. Event will start at 11:59 PM EST 8:59PM PST. Link will be posted about 10mins before starting. Come drink and bet on your Friends or Enemies.

>>503809596
This might be a good idea. I'll continue to stick around and be awkward until I am a part of this. Like that one song on the album you are too lazy to skip.

>>503810091
is it using the models from last time

>>503809302
my point is it really doesn't matter if you don't "fit in"
I'd take someone who's allegedly anti-social over the ten dozen cookie cutter generic american personalities that already infest this general

>>503808832

>>503807085
I dont have a quest 3 but other do and have used that to do that

>>503811280
Dr. Robotnik is that you?

>>503810965
I will hunt you down and befriend you anon.

>>503811793
Menhera gf(male) unlocked!

Instance is up for Dragon Half, we'll start in 15-20 minutes. You can join off Silencen or try the link:
https://vrch.at/bmvuavv8

>>503812487
I will hunt you down and pet you

>>503802618
I'm buying it.

Hi it's time for Tuesday pypy:
https://vrch.at/z4u68rc4
or join on Lycosella

>>503812553
Good luck, can't reach me up here.

>>503812675
Fucking cats I swear

>>503810091
Will the video be posted on the thread after it's over? I'm gonna miss it and wanna watch :<

>>503812675
oh shit, dayZ map.

>>503810091
>read the character list below
Oh shid my character got in this time! Based W. I will bend my sleep schedule to see this. Happy Thanks Giving!

>>503810316
its based on whatever people sent when i asked originally so if people had a glow up between that time its their old character
>>503813363
it will be posted after its done

>>503808873

>>503814569
OK

>>503814569

>>503814792

>>503812339
alright now how do we do this

>>503814691
no not h-
oh wait

>>503809029
I actually did want this but I think it quietly faded into obscurity and/or it flopped in japan from second sources I heard. shame because my walls are paper thin so I'm force to speak very quietly or not at all most of the time

Any good stuff I can do with a Samsung Odyssey+? Got one my brother isn't using anymore. Should I keep it or try to go for a Quest 3?

>>503814976
I love you mommy elf. Please bake me a cake

>>503811280
i missed that room

>>503814792
The AO on this map that you three look photoshopped

afternoon, evening and night /vrg/ workin on a ss outfit as a blender mostly noob, considering a few things for fixing this lil... issue im having, my main thought is to join the meshes, and then add faces between the 2 but not sure if thats even a good way to fix this or hwat... anyone got any good recommendations beyond that?

If I make a login daily rewards world for /vrg/ as an event ironically, will that be a good idea as a one month thing or will that be horrible?

pic related is the prefab that is potentially useful as a gacha login system using UDON persistence

>>503818336
Data transfer the weights so they match I guess.

>>503818336
looks potentially like an issue with vertex normals
try this
https://github.com/fedackb/yavne

>>503818463
im not gonna lie i only really tried this on a whim and it fixed the major issue(and only created 2 more)

>>503818665
im gonna give this a quick try, see if it produces results without breaking other parts of the weight

>>503798969
>What am I in for?
how is your home wifi? wireless PCVR on shitty slow wifi is a uniquely bad experience. If you are planning on using a cable, make sure it's USB 3.0 or 3.1. Otherwise the bandwidth is too shitty.
Did you buy a head strap? The one that comes with the quest is dogshit and front-heavy.
Controller straps are a nice-to-have but not as needed.

>connecting to PC
is a massive pain in the ass if you try to do it through meta's shitty software. Install steam link on your headset and as long as steam is running on your PC it will connect easy peasy. If you use the beta versions of steam link (on headset) and steamvr (on pc) then the no-controller hand tracking that the quest can do will work with games, just be aware that some games don't support hand controls very well, so you will be using your controllers.

>gaming on the quest without a PC
Nice when you can because there is no latency, no shitty video compression, and no pic related, but the limited processing power of the quest means it can only really play older titles, indies, and games very specifically made for the quest.

VRC on the native quest app is really limited
If you buy Metro through Meta rather than steam you get both the PC and quest native versions
Batman is pretty good I'm told
plenty of older titles have quest native ports, and lots of indie too

Your experience may be different, but the first time I tried VR about a month ago I got really motion sick, but it no longer happens so much. Alyx seems to be the worst game when it comes to inducing motion sickness.

>re: VR Chat
VR Chat is a much more exhaustive platform than I ever thought. People make a lot of cool shit in VRC. You might be surprised at what you find.

>>503802504
They better include that in the box. Straps are so fucking important and developers need to be able to assume you have them

Thanks for showing up for exploration everyone. Apologies for the initial hiccup, I didn't realize 4chan would convert the unicode C in my display name to an actual C, making it impossible to search for me on the VRC website. I will directly link my profile the next time this is run, as well as a link to the starting world instance. After we initially filled, it looks like everything went fairly smoothly.

>>503808001
The 80 person instances and tipsy Tuesdays sort of things are not /vrg/. They are mostly spoonfed randos imported by the failed normie invaders. Many of our people also became corrupted by associating with outside ERP circles and abandon chan culture for pronouns.

For NA hours, some of us awkward autistic oldfags still have our small gatherings in VRC away from everyone else. You wont see our instances shilled here. The best way to get to know us is by joining (not VRC) game lobbies. If you see a game being hosted for NA hours it's mostly us. All the frat boy posers don't care about actual games.

>>503808001
pic related was my experience at dreadfest
pic related will be my experience at the xmas party
and this event too >>503798040

>>503820496
Have you tried Friend by Friend yet? It's literally impossible for you to be like pic related during it

It's over for you

>>503820558
true friend by friend first one went pretty alright, second one was where i really got to know alot of people, stopped me from being the weird quiet guy that no one knows, it will help you build a real circle anon~

https://github.com/LivingFray/HaloCEVR

>Somebody made a full 6DOF port of HaloCE in VR
Even if it's for the shitty original gearbox port from an eon ago this is awesome.

>>503819851
realest post ive seen all week

>>503821720
if this gets multiplayer support... we have a new weekday shooter to run boys

>>503821720
>triggered windows defender's malware check
bros...

>>503821720
any good source for HaloCE?

>>503822464
https://gamesnostalgia.com/download/halo-combat-evolved/2908

I used this. Just run the installer and you're good to go. Seems like it's on the latest Patch 1.10, which is what VR needs.

>>503822869
thank you good anon

>>503812643
Good pypyin' pypyers
Next NA pypy is tentatively Thursday at 7PM PST / 10 PM EST depending on Thanksgiving availability

comfy

>>503825137
I love them so much bros. I want to just drag them into my basement and have them code for me for all the random ideas I have, feeding them anything they want and making them as comfy as possible.

>>503821720
Some tips for the control scheme here as it's heavily reliant on motion controls and the github doesn't explain everything

>You switch guns with your right hand's grip button
>Reload is the north most face button on your right hand
>Bottom button uses grenades
>Trigger shoots, obviously
>Flicking the right stick up jumps
>Top face button on left hand is pause/menu
>Grip button on left hand will let you 2 hand aim with any gun
>Left trigger activates the scope on guns with it, ADS IRL to properly use it. Does not need to be used 2 handed
>Crouching requires you to physically crouch IRL
>Melee requires you to swing your controller forward with a little force. Can be left OR right controller if you wanna use one hand for shooting and the other melee
>The crosshairs are generally accurate but don't feel quite perfect in aligning with the sense of depth VR provides, especially with the default gun spread instead of being 1:1 with where you aim like VR native shoorters. Pistol was okay headshooting but ADSing with scope is much more reliable. Pistol actually feels balanced since headshots take a little more skill
>Hipfire the whole time is still 100% fine
>Cause melee is not quite as quick and precision headshots are a little more difficult, game difficult feels slightly higher than flat. So I'd recommend starting on normal to get a feel for it.

I also noticed that the "look around" prompt in the opening stage wouldn't progress and let me out of the tube. If you encounter this, physically move your mouse and it should then work. By default, it's on Snap turning as well. To change to smooth go into the "VR" folder and change snap turning to "false" in the config file. Config file is how you'll do most of your editing, no ingame VR options.

First impressions are 9/10. Played the two stages and it felt borderline native sides the crosshairs being a bit finnicky. Could use some smoothing on aiming but still feels great.

Give me the rest of Halo in VR now.

niggerigged slime my beloved

>>503827441
fellow my beloved anon...

>it doesn't need lighthouse tracking
You are here
>it doesn't need to be x86
>it doesn't need DP input
>it doesn't need a hot-swappable battery
>it doesn't need Index-like finger tracking
>it doesn't need knuckle straps
>it doesn't need hall effect sticks
>it doesn't need SLAM controllers
>it doesn't need uOLED displays
>it doesn't need a non-hybrid FBT solution
>it doesn't need face tracking
>it doesn't need a newer gen Snapdragon
>it doesn't need a new Valve game
>it doesn't need a functional OS
>it doesn't need to be under 1.5k

>wow, another great day to play VR!
>petty dumb fanbase rivalries between zucc and gaben
>3 AM
m-maybe... tomorrow...

>>503831991
he just like me fr fr Nah I'm still at work and will login VR later PSYCH! I'll be on Unity and Blender working on a map!

>>503816131
I have no experience with the Odyssey, but it's considered a Windows Mixed Reality headset which isn't supported by Microsoft anymore. The Quest would be better in the long run

>>503823513
hugging my pypyfu!

>>503804435
congratulations, you've just described the index

>>503816131
If you just have one laying around, then I think it's worth messing around with it to see if you like VR before you grab something else. Support is getting phased out, but depending on the Windows version you should still be able to use it.
Quest 3 is probably the way to go after that if you like it, but it's not really on sale for Black Friday anyways.

Meant to make a post earlier, but no Assetto this week because of Thanksgiving stuff. Should be back at the normal time next week.

>>503797763 (OP)
:: /vrg/ Christmas Party - Secrets of Santa 2024 | December 14 ::
What is this?
Come enjoy a comfy christmas party with your fellow /vrg/ anons.
Chat, chill and warm yourselves with the other anon's as everyone gathers round to see all the gifts Santa Anons made for one another.

Beverages, snacks and orderves will be served from our tourism sensitive hosts. In a fully custom map designed for /vrg/.

A new Christmas Carol created by /vrg/ for /vrg/ is also gonna be shown, lovingly crafted by everyone.

At it's climax everyone comes in and welcome's santa on the chair to receive gifts specially made for them.
Fully recorded not just as a 2D image but a 3D HOLOGRAM to capture the magic of opening for years to come.
Non-secret santa participants will be able to have a little token as well.

This year's theme is: Comfy Christmas Village

When?
SEA - is not gonna be here for this year for the first time ever since Secret Santa started ;_;
EU - 19:00 UTC
NA - 10:30 PM EST


EVERYONE in /vrg/ is Invited to come enjoy this merriest of VR tradition 6 years long coming and that includes (You)

SING the vrg christmas song
https://rentry.org/yc4gqewn

>>503834306
>6 years long coming
I counted. It's actually actually 7 years long coming

>>503834431
2017 didn't have secret santa

>>503834659
No you're counting this wrong.
2018 (1st Secret Santa)
2019 (2nd)
2020 (3rd)
2021 (4th)
2022 (5th)
2023 (6th)
2024 (7th years long "coming")
I know this is anally pedantic but I think I am right on this one.

Threadly WRC club reminder, Rally Pacifico is in progress. Last championship in series!

We're running a 5-event long WRC2 class championship. Events change every two weeks. Every stage ends with a long service area, nearly no 35km+ stages, three stages per event, full championship ends on December 5.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1849250/EA_SPORTS_WRC/

Join, and for the very first time, fight for points instead of just times:
https://racenet.com/ea_sports_wrc/clubs/19481

EU Bonelab happens every Saturday, 18:00 UTC.

>Setup/mod guide is available at https://rentry.org/bonerlabeu
>Avatars are collected through the week and put into an updated mod pack couple hours before game starts
>If you've got any ideas for maps to try, props to add, things to do, drop your ideas here. All suggestions are welcome

>>503835202
God I love bonering with the bros

>>503809593
jewish tricks, it's "royalty free" as opposed to a more widely adopted h265, no corporation want's to pay 50 cents on every media copy

EU Contractors every other Friday at 18:00 UTC / 19:00 CET
New update, we will see how shitty the new Push mode and vehicles are.
Mod list will be posted the day before or during the morning.

>>503835773
h265 is also shit which helps av1's case

>>503818349
pypy points tracker!

>>503834182
Is that an 86 with an Altezza cluster
nice
i think noriyaro had one like that at some point

important https://youtu.be/gfq_d4IAE10

>>503836649
The mod is based on that car, just look around for the Beans 86 if you're interested.

any good black friday VR Accessories to take advantage of this year /vrg/
Ordered a power bank for my quest 3, thinking about maybe getting a gunstock for shits

>>503837602
like the power bank that comes in the strap or just a power bank?

>>503837905
anker power bank
going to velcro it to my headstrap as a counterweight

>>503834306
Christmas Carol 2025 - https://rentry.org/yc4gqewn
M is busy this year so we're filling in.
This year we're doing a rendition of Do They Know it's Christmas Time for the 40th anniversary of Band Aid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjQzJAKxTrE

We plan to start filming no later than Friday so when the time gets closer we'll release names of recorders to seek out to get you and your voice in this year's video. Just seek them out in VRChat when they're usually on and they should help facilitate the process. There'll be a hard deadline on filming for the 8th of December 1200 UTC in order to give enough time for file transfer and the video editor to work his magic.

Here are the adapted lyrics for this year (with syllable count):

It’s Christmas time [4]
There’s no need to be outside [7]
At Christmas time [4]
We let in love and stop throwing shade [9]

And in our games of plenty [7]
We can chuck a few grenades[7]
Throw your arms around the thread [7]
At Christmas time [4]

Write a reply [4]
To give out another (You) [7]
At Christmas time [4]
It’s hard, but when you’re shitposting [8]

There’s a world outside your instance [8]
And it’s a world furries appear [8]
With the kids that play on mobile [8]
Getting groomed by bitter queers [7]

And the TDAs that dwell there [8]
Are adored by simps who coom [7]
Well, tonight thank God it’s them [7]
Instead of (You) [4]

And the Deckard won’t be out again this Christmas time [13]
The only headset dropped this year is VIVE’s [11]
(OOOOOOOHHHH)
Unique IPs don’t grow, [6]
Nor games nor demos flow [6]
[Everyone Sing] Do they boot up VR games at all? [9]
(OOOOOOOOHHHH)

(Here’s to (You))[3] Making mods to have our fun [7]
(Here’s to them)[3] Half Life 3 is nearly done[7]
[Everyone Sing]Do they boot up VR games at all? [9]

[Repeating Chorus Lines] [Everyone Sing]
Play some games, [4]

Roy leaks after I write about the Deckard not coming out this Christmas.
Complaints to Karkeys.

>>503838187
As I have the inability to post properly, the final chorus part is:

[Repeating Chorus Lines] [Everyone Sing]
Play some games, [4]
Shitposting on vrg (again). [9]

The tears of my people still haunt me today

>>503838187
>>503838270
Sounds good. Can't wait to be kidnapped and asked to sing during a meetup

>>503838187
I can't wait to be kidnapped and forced to kneel in front of a hard throbbing lyric and wrapping my mouth around it

>>503838046
i dunno get a VR cover facial replacement/foam replacement, the foam around the quest 3 kind of gives in to sweat/moisture over time

>>503838348
>>503838405
You can just say no. Also we could do with a couple more recorders to fill gaps in EU so any volunteers as I'm out this weekend.

>>503837569
Sweet, thanks. I'm still in love with that gauge cluster
I need to fix the gauge bulbs on my IS, someone swapped half of them to LEDs and it looks like shit.

>>503838763
Did I stutter?
I can't wait to be kidnapped and asked to sing during a meetup

>>503011153 (Cross-thread)
>>503036395 (Cross-thread)
Sorry i've been busy, I missed this

Yellow and Black, maybe? Yellow and whatever

>>503838187
>fixed the typo
i will now participate.

/trash/ on /vg/

I should die.

>prominent vrc youtuber comes out
is the pipeline is real or is a case of
>You must be, or you wouldn't have come here

if I were 15 years younger... who am I kidding? I'd make the same mistakes a second time.

>>503839897
we'll all have to eventually. It's not fun to think about...

If I get a deckard I will use index controllers and stick a tracker to it and then send the picture to gaben

>>503840484
>If
when* I get a deckard
it's confirmed now. 2 more weeks

two more weeks until it will be just two more weeks!

>>503839689
yeah cool i'll have it to you soon.

Didn't someone have a neon sign generator they made? If so can I get a link?

>>503844704
Greendayle

>>503844704
https://greendayle.booth.pm/items/4849237

>>503845797
BUY MY CLOCK.mp4

>>503844704
If you can wai 9 hours and i dont forget i can pust the blend file

>>503845969
Can you also share snow generator blend?

>>503845936
ALL WORK
NO PAY

Today I shall do a rally with a crest into square left right after a 300m straight

good, I was missing a d-pad on the left controller, I even use a xbone controller in the left hand to play gzdoom vr to have access to a better stick and dpad

>>503819851
Game?

>>503854175
Looks like emuVR

>>503819851
>You wont see our instances shilled here
According to Yuki, those are not real /vrg/ instances then. Checkmate.

>>503827441
nice clock Ahmed

>>503854540
Well if an instance is disconnected from here, can it be /vrg/?

>>503855403
I don't know, if you write dumb shit like this, do you have a brain?

>>503855584
It's not dumb at all.

>>503855403
>instance is disconnected
But it's not. It's made by people who are here and use the boards.
The connection is quite literally the people who made and visit the instance, but don't feel like shilling (SHILLING) it here, because the thread and nu-/vrg/ has been compromised.

>>503856058
It depends if you view /vrg/ as the place, or /vrg/ as the people. My view is that what makes /vrg/ people is that... they are active in the place, so really it is still about the place.

>>503819851
The 80 people instances posted here in /vrg/ definitely sound more /vrg/ than your weird little cliques.

>>503831410
kek, we got shazamposting in /vrg/ before gta 6

>>503856219
Spoken as the true guardian of /vrg/. As expected from Yuki or his followers.
Hail Yuki
Hail /vrg/

>>503831410
it begins

>>503856589
So you don't actually have a counter argument? What is /vrg/ to you?

>>503856894
/vrg/ is whatever Yuki tells me it is, SIR!
Hail Yuki
Hail /vrg/

>>503856894
His own personal clique of approved people.

>>503856219
It's the place. If you use the thread you are /vrg/. Organising your lobbies in discord doesn't make you more /vrg/ than someone that posts in the thread. You don't have to shill and link every instance but cmon, jumping through hoops outside of the thread is clearly distancing itself from /vrg/ even if you are less of a faggot than the people shilling their weekly event.

>>503845797
all work, all day......

>>503856978
>>503857179
Right, so a personal clique of approved people?
Like:
>>503819851
???

>>503856219
I agree with this one the best. /vrg/ is quite literally the place, this thread that we share and the people who use it.

Some random faggot making a subreddit on reddit naming it VRG won’t make it the /vrg/ we know and love.

>>503838345
I don’t get it. These are just teapots

>>503856058
>>503857681
Exactly. Only his discord lobbies count as /vrg/. Everyone else is a random or "nu-/vrg/"

>>503857698
VRG is whatever Yuki is involved in. If he doesn't create a discord chat for it, it ain't VRG
Simple as

MMMMMMMMMMM DRAMA SO GOOD

YES YES YES
YOU'VE GOT ME FEELING LIKE A /VRG/'ER

>>503857362
This

I just took a shit on company time

>>503859814
Was it this post?

I wiped.

>>503834306
>>503838187
Sing-a-long version is out (with the original song as backing) thanks to J's hard work in producing a karaoke subtitle file (which will feature in the final video):
https://streamable.com/v1nwgd

Lyrics have been slightly updated, marked by the asterisk:
It’s Christmas time [4]
There’s no need to be outside [7]
At Christmas time [4]
We let in love and stop throwing shade [9]

And in our games of plenty [7]
We can chuck a few grenades[7]
Throw your arms around the thread [7]
At Christmas time [4]

Write a reply [4]
To give out another (You) [7]
At Christmas time [4]
It’s hard, but when you’re shitposting [8]

There’s a world outside your instance [8]
And it’s a world furries appear [8]
*When the kids play on mobile they [8]
*Get groomed by bitter queers [6]

And the TDAs that dwell there [8]
Are adored by simps who coom [7]
Well, tonight thank God it’s them [7]
Instead of (You) [4]

And the Deckard won’t be out again this Christmas time [13]
The only headset dropped this year is VIVE’s [11]
(OOOOOOOHHHH)
Unique IPs don’t grow, [6]
Nor games nor demos flow [6]
[Everyone Sing] Do they boot up VR games at all? [9]
(OOOOOOOOHHHH)

(Here’s to (You))[3] Making mods to have our fun [7]
(Here’s to them)[3] Half Life 3 is nearly done[7]
[Everyone Sing]Do they boot up VR games at all? [9]

[Repeating Chorus Lines] [Everyone Sing]
Play some games, [4]
Shitposting on vrg (again). [9]

>>503862649
It was a pretty fun event
too bad I completely fumbled the second stage

>>503838187
To further add, do not put your "Timezone" as EU and then tell me you live in PST/UTC-8 this does not help with finding people online at the same time as you.

Is Antlion's wireless modmic any good?

>>503864252
no

>>503831410
It need to NOT have Index-like finger ``tracking''

>>503868237
Finger tracking doesn't even have a taste, let alone sour

>>503864252
It's not too bad. I used the wireless modmic and it gets the job done. After a year or so of heavy use I find the power button is a bit finicky and I'll rarely have minor charging issues but overall it worked decently as a substituent mic for a quest 3 for a decent amount of time. Quest 3 mic has gotten updates that make it more usable so I've been falling back on that more often as opposed to going to the effort of charging mine but there is a notable quality difference especially if you follow their EQ guide.

What slopa do anons feel like slopping tonight, TAVR or surprise HyperDash? If neither it will be golf.

>>503869414
Alright, thank you. I might try it.

>>503797763 (OP)
Looks like the deckard is going to have inside out tracking which is great
It’s cheaper, more reliable, and more convenient. Base stations are really only good for things like Pimax or the Beyond

DECKARD WHEN

>>503873836
2 years

>>503873836
When Russia takes Kiev

>>503873836
when i get a gf

>>503873836
When I find happiness

>>503873983
Wait a minute...

>>503862732
The verse with the deckard is my favorite

no NA anime tonight because holidays. Have a good thanksgiving

Would anybody be opposed to dropping MagiLumi? The majority seems to want to drop it so reply if you want to keep it

SUBARASHI

I really, really like my VR friends. I had a big personal win today and just wanted to share with you how much I appreciate you.

That's all.

how do I make a bone hierarchy for a prop that people can grab and move around freely? when I try to do it with stretch values, it seems to orbit the bones center always facing it.

>>503808073
me when finally get you

oh yeah pypy now, i forgot to announce join us:

https://vrch.at/n9evhs02

Dungeons of Eternity NOW, join room code
1488

>>503800610
ill get the steamcage next locktober or when its on sale

>>503882398

...what did Captcha mean by this?

Just another 55 more years until Valve Roy comes out

Bruh they've got gnus in MS Flight sim now

>>503886143
they should make a cube out of that animal

>>503847338
>>503844704
Neon signs
https://files.catbox.moe/m8a8ha.zip

Snow:
https://files.catbox.moe/fmiqft.blend

I recomend turning off the modifier preview when setting up the scene, snow generation takes a while. Also you will want to decimate it and use triplanar shaders or unwrap from view (from above).

Congrats, you saved three fiddy

EU Assetto Corsa: European Racing club, season 12!
Race 85

19:00 UTC 20:00 CET, Monday 2nd of December 2024.

FUCKING TRUCKING. HELL YEAH. We're taking these FUCKING TRUCKS to america, to Laguna Seca. Drive these 5 tonn, 1000 HP shits around the corkscrew and don't screw around!

1 hour practice
12 minutes qualifiers
8 laps race

After that some relaxing convoy trucking in Scotland.

Assetto - can be played with wheel, controller, or steam-vr-wheel addon, it doesn't matter, we will all have fun driving together. If you just bought Asseto - grab Assetto Corsa Content Manager - a better launcher and mod manager: https://assettocorsa.club/content-manager.html To install mods: just drag and drop zip files from mega onto the Content Manager windows and click on the hamburger menu on top right. Highly recommend installing stable custom shader patch and 7-zip plugin in Content manager.

For communication we'll use mumble at voice.vrg.party port 64738, as it doesn't need any registrations or logins.
https://www.mumble.info/

I can't recomend enough Crew Chief
https://thecrewchief.org/
He's a helpfull AI fellow in the pits who'll provide you information about your car, your opponents, yell at you or try to encourage you. And most importantly, he will spot for you, in case you have a car in you blind spot.

UI radar are immersion breaking and basically cheating, but this guy will tell you verbally if someone is there on your right. Download, install, select Asseto Corsa in game list, press "Start application" and it should work!

MODS: https://mega.nz/folder/viQUiKwJ#USYXpjP1sPo3_Obad4leTA

>>503886143
How's the game running for you?

>>503887034
OK, better than 2020 did. The engine being multicore now and using openxr helps, especially in cities and the like.

>>Deckard
>uOLED or QLED (Local Dimming) with HDR
>pancake or aspheric lenses
>index off-ear audio
>compute in rear of headset, likely ARM running Linux
>eye tracking, potentially via BMI
>face tracking
>hybrid tracking supporting lighthouses and camera-based tracking for hand tracking and Roy controllers for those who don't want to use (or own) base stations
>options to use wired displayport cable or wireless via Steam VR Link
>hotswappable battery or battery puck to be put in pocket/belt
well, /vrg/?
predictions?

>>503887958
it's gonna be yet another XR2 reference design a-la Quest 3, but high res OLED with HDR and off ear audio, and ARM Arch likely.

Lighthouse is dead.

>>503888332
>Lighthouse is dead.
surely valve won't cause the absolute implosion of the PCVR ecosystem!

>>503887958
uOLED doesn't have the scale or size for what vavle wants in a hmd. Pancakes maybe. I sure hope its wireless but standalone? not sure.

>>503887958
its not going to have working HDR, they havent touched the broken HDR support in steamvr in months.
i doubt it will have face tracking, but 100% its got eye tracking.
hybrid tracking purely just seems like cope because people dont want to admit that lighthouses are dead.

>>503888601
they've been working on HDR related items behind the scenes for years, its not out of the question that this thing will support it fully once its out and populating its displays via a gamescope session (which Valve added HDR support to a while back)

>>503888601
I will flip you off behind my back

lat thread had people struggling: what is the correct placement for slime trackers?

>Mr. Bone's (Virtual) Wild Ride
>the ride never ends

>>503888545
they could always go for larger uOLED with less magnification ala Apple Vision Pro

>>503888392
They only could do it if they break SteamVR. Any vr headset in existance can use SteamVR, but there less and less reason to, as all games release on standalone first.

It's gonna be PC vs consoles now for a long time, with autistic/simulation games releasing on PC and requiring all the CPU and all other games releasing on Quest and then maybe on PC.

it's all valve's fault for leaving VR on it's own, and not actively promoting lighthouse and making partnerships.

>>503888783
oh no, i 100% know. they made a prototype index with HDR and loved it, its more likely but they will also need a way to convert non-HDR games to HDR and that always has a pretty big perf hit for desktop games, 10-20% fps loss.
And if its going to be HDR then it wont be pancakes, its just completely pointless to have HDR when you can only reach like 100nits past the pancake lenses.

>>503889209
>a pretty big perf hit for desktop games, 10-20% fps los
if the compute puck does this in an async fashion to just handle streaming and image processing while the actual PC is crunching the real game and sending it to the unit we could have a feasible solution on our hands

>>503889153
and have to charge AVP prices, you realize the reason the AVP costs soo much is due to the OLEDoS panels being soo damn expensive due to low production volume and low QA rate.

>>503889396
>the reason the AVP costs soo much
is due to Apple
with other high end HMDs costing $1k-$2k right now it wouldn't be too out of left field to target a price in this range for a high end headset
low end is--and forever will be--dominated by Meta selling their corner-cutting headsets at a loss
there's no reason to fight in Meta's corner of the arena

I honestly was hoping the deckard would never arrive so I could be saved the disappointment. They should have treated it like episode 3.

>>503807085
Virtual Desktop, chroma key
I'll not explain more. You can figure it out.

>>503889169
>it's all valve's fault for leaving VR on it's own, and not actively promoting lighthouse and making partnerships.
i mean should one company be responsible for hand-holding others like HTC for every product they make?
Valve made and released their own hardware, devs just can't make new games worth a damn 90% of the time
Valve even released their own game to show them how its done and nobody can even plagiarize their work apparently
Tundra and Bigscreen made their devices without having their hands held like HTC
main issue is lack of killer apps besides vrchat to pull people in, and vrchat is for weirdos like us who already own VR

>>503889679
those are estimates and no one actually knows how much apple are paying sony for custom designed uOLED displays, and its the same for the M2 and R1 chips, none of it is public and its all custom designed stuff so the costs are all based on estimates.

>>503890424
>the company known for overpricing all their slop definitely isn't overpricing all their slop
this is unironically your argument

>>503890424
>and its the same for the M2 and R1 chips
just slap in the costs for a Mac Mini or two to cover their onboard compute costs at similar levels
we don't care about Apple Silicon anyway, just the components for the presumed Steam VR Link necessary compute and optics stack alongside the physical device itself regarding shell, straps, and audio solutions
none of which will be glass, aluminum, or $100 cloth like Apple's retarded design uses
it'll all be plastic

>>503890424
oh look, heres another estimate that has the displays costing a lot more.
also i dont know what previous graph has a fucking transparent background, whoops.

>>503890680
no its not. my argument is microOLED is expensive as hell and very fucking low production

>>503887958
deckard! for the low price of $2000!

>>503890859
ok
the Bigscreen Beyond is $999 and uses uOLED too
so if we just slap a blanket cost increase on that we can still assume anywhere from $1k-$2k!

>>503890273
If they are trying to create a new medium with a healthy ecosystem? Yes, they should partner up, help, share the know-how, not just by public presentations or developers comments. Pimax, for example had issues with lighthouse accessibility and Valve just being silent and ignoring emails.

So /vrg/ can talk about something else than tranny chat? Cool. Good thread so far.

>>503891182
right, the beyond uses the best value uOLED displays to keep costs down.
Its 1 inch and looks like shit cause the pancake lenses shit the bed trying to magnify something that small up.

>>503891189
they already run a storefront and provide a hardware solution
they already made a game to exemplify it and are allegedly working on more
Pimax got it working in the end and they're Chinese bugmen
they even made proprietary, pimax only controllers
HTC still makes the Vive Pro line and Bigscreen made the Beyond and allegedly has something INSANE in the pipeline to continue on from that
Tundra made trackers and sells boards for lighthouse devices to be developed with
what else do you want them to do?

>>503891473
and like I said you can throw on an amount to account for larger, better displays if you want and some aspheric optics
basically its easy to assume something nearing the levels of Pimax Super pricing because that's the current highest end VR HMD that we know about that is in active, somewhat transparent development

>>503891541
nothing now, it's too late.

They are killing lighthouse and I'm not interested in a headset which doesn't let me put my hands behind my back.

OpenXR is a thing now, and you don't need SteamVR for that.

All I want now a headset, and Valve is not gonna do it anymore.

is anyone hosting a Thanksgiving evening meet tomorrow? I want to chill with my friends as the turkey coma takes me.

>>503891719
i cant imagine valve will try to sell the deckard at $1700-$1800, it would not sell well enough, theyll most likely try to target $1k again, maybe more to adjust for inflation, uOLED is not going to get cheap enough in the next like 18 months for it to be uOLED.

>>503891885
>They are killing lighthouse and I'm not interested in a headset which doesn't let me put my hands behind my back.
don't worry, it'll work with lighthouses too!

>>503891541
it's telling to me that valve and htc are the only manufacturers of the actual lighthouses. If it were actually open, I'd expect at least some chink clones. I've heard the same anecdotes of devs trying to use the tundra lighthouse HDK and also getting ghosted on support.

Picked up Skyrim VR to try it out. Only ever owned the original skyrim before. Do I need the Special Edition and/or Anniversary Upgrade for any mods related to the VR version?

>>503892078
There's supposedly something around 10PM ET

>>503892129
if I were to be aggressively predicting I would hazard a guess at $1k for HMD alone
more to include a set of controllers, maybe $1250?
that or $750/$1k for hmd/full kit since we can ignore base stations existing
I doubt it'll reach Pimax Super levels of specs though for those pricepoints, which means it'll seem like a pretty lame headset when it does come out

>>503892243
valve no longer directly makes them, but allows HTC to iirc
russians were going to clone the tech at one point but I think that was just vaporware like most russian ideas

>>503892374
>more to include a set of controllers, maybe $1250?
what is this 2016? valve is not going to have that good of hand tracking that it could replace controllers, or at least im very doubtful.

>>503891885
>I'm not interested in a headset that doesn't let me put my hands behind my back.

The pro controllers are compatible with Quest 3.
In the past, I couldn't recommend them, but the software has finally been consistent over the last few updates.

>>503892243
>valve and htc
lol
it's only htc now, and who knows if they even produce new ones, or just selling the existing stock.

Lighthouses themselves are now easy to make, as we know how they work, at least 1.0 - you could make one in the garage. But SteamVR HDK licence only allows you royalty free production and tools to make lighthouse tracked devices, not lighthouses themselves. And due to small market, custom components, asics, Lighthouse never achieved economies of scale, unlike camera based tracking, which uses off the shelf components.

>>503891336
Thank you for your invaluable opinion.

>>503892726
more like thank you for making a vrchat post during an unrelated discussion due to personal insecurity

>>503892656
Pro controllers loose tracking all the time, overheat, become offset from the headset, they're SHIT

>>503892517
I'm sure they've acquired someone in the past or been working on things behind the scenes if they're willing to go with Arcturus Vision's tracking for Roy controllers
it HAS been like 5+ years since the Index came out, after all

I think the deckard is SHIT

>>503892254
No, none of the VR mods rely on the new AE content. The quest with the hags they released on Halloween was fun but very optional.

>>503892656
>The pro controllers are compatible with Quest 3.
these things are pieces of shit
my Quest Pro will shit itself and blackscreen reboot if I have these, hands, and wireless streaming all going at once and dare to open the Meta OS dashboard
they also lose track of where they are, offset themselves randomly, and generally not track nearly as well as my Index controllers
they feel rather premium, but I hate them otherwise

>>503892675
ah, I didn't know the HDK license only covered the devices, that is sad. I bet it's more the usual ADHD incompetence on valve's part rather than malice though. All the lighthouse hardware devs got drafted into making steam decks or whatever and stopped answering licensing emails.

>>503892656
+1 for hating these fucking things.
They suck donkey dick, haven't used mine in a looong time because they were such unreliable garbage.

>>503893238
Valve wanted lighthouse to be the USB of VR, everyone would make VR accessories to lighthouses which they'd make and kindly allow to bundle with 3rd party HMDs. But then we had production issues, delays, covid related shortages, Valve ghosting HMD devs who needed lighthouses, being overall quiet and hard to communicate, so nobody, ever made a 3rd party lighthouse controller and only a handfull of HMDs.

On other hand Microsoft - did create tonnes of partnerships, cooperated, helped their partners and WMR had like 7 manufacturers. But being Microsoft, they had to kill it like any other hardware project.

Imagine if Valve didn't sit on their ass, but used their know how and steam money to actually partner and propose collaborations and we had 7 manufacturers of lighthouse HMDs...

Index was 2019. Need I remind you what happened for the next 4 years after?
It would have been the spark to ignite the VR industry had the COVID lockdown collapse not killed everything. And now everyone's disposable income is being eaten by food costs.

we could have had a golden age. Maybe we still can if WW3 doesn't happen.

>>503892963
One thing im really scared of right now is that Dekcard is not going to be for VR for VR games, it going to be VR for Flat games. Like monitor replacement but just for gaming. Now the screen is a software problem. Thus influences the design of these controllers. So few games used the cool inputs on the knuckles controllers. Think about how the valve devs where happy that the Slople Vision Pro, and how it "transformed" working in VR. The controllers are going back in progress so that you can play factorio in VR with crumby controllers. But hey at least I can play flatshit at the hospital as grandma dies!

>>503893931
Covid actually sparked the VR industry, have you forgotten? It was mostly questlets and people drinking in vrchat.

>>503893931
Covid was the second most kino VR year, seocnd only to 2018.

Roy controller models 3D printed

I hate how small they are

>>503894010
That's all PCVR is now. Flat game ports. It's telling that the biggest SteamVR releases this year were EA WRC, MS Flight Sim 2024, and Lethal Company. Valve is at least smart enough to realize that. I wish that they would actually help by making a decent VR game, but that is far too much for a company that didn't even have the attention span to complete Artifact 2 lmao.

>>503894543
Metro Awakening

>>503894181
you are actively equating on VRC to the whole industry. Typical VRC troon thinking.
Meanwhile, investment into hardware R&D and game development dried up.

Do any of you guys have experience with VR sculpting software? I'm looking at Shapelab right now on the Steam sale as I want something that's like Zbrush but for VR.

>>503894539
Can we see it with someone that doesn't have fat hands?

>>503894539

>>503894539
heckin chonker of a thumb right there

>>503894010
>play factorio in VR with crumby controllers
that sounds dreadful

>>503894737
At most you can get this.
Quest sized small shits.

>>503893551
like I said.
The software has improved RECENTLY. I also highly recommend factory resetting your headset if you have had it for more than a year.

>>503895198
cope computing...

>>503894691
No, sorry but you're just a dumbass.
The internet was a slow burn over the course of a few decades until it blew up in the mid/early 2000s. Before that, it was a niche thing that only enthusiasts and nerds really used (it was kino then btw)

Your expectations for VR are based on your zoomer expectations and you have no real appreciation for the development arc of emergent technologies. There is no three year track for VR blowing up and suddenly being mainstream. It's a long grind. It takes a lot of trial and error to get things right both in terms of ergonomics and UI. One of the biggest challenges facing VR is coming up with UI for games that'll make people really want to play them - flat game solutions don't work.
The other is iterating on the hardware until the usability is up and price is down.

These things take time.
Also, you really need to appreciate VRC more. It has done a great job getting people informed and interested in VR and it keeps VR on a good healthy broil while devs are figuring the obstacles keeping it from going mainstream out. VRC is a wonderful thing for VR because it gives enthusiasts something to do while waiting for the games to cook.

>>503894937
jesus fuck! What son of plapjak hands are these?!

>>503894539
They look a lot like Q3 controllers but it's hard to tell how they'll feel just by looking at them. Q1, 2 and 3 all have very similar controllers but the small differences make them feel different in the hand. The grips on the Q1 feel too small to me and I never got used to them whereas Q3 was comfortable from the get-go. Angle, curvature etc contribute a surprising amount to comfort.

>>503894937
you have to be almost 300lb to have hands like that.

>>503895365
what games. PCVR is just flat game ports. VR devs largely gave up and the ones left are incompetent and/or just make mobile games. I don't mind as I've had a lot of fun playing Lethal Company and WRC with friends, but I'm curious to hear what games are 'cooking' in your eyes now that it's been 8 years since the Vive.

>>503895967
I'm gonna play Trombone Champ Unflattened and have fun

>>503896015
Yet another good flat game port. I like that custom songs work with that one.

>>503894937
>>503894539
yeah this means nothing because the guy is like 300+ pounds and has monstrously fat hands.

>>503895967
into the radius 2 is a prime example of a pcvr game.

i dont get why people are crying in the first place given that the majority of vr games are still released on the steamVR platform. and more often than not that's the definitive version of the game.

>NOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOO ITS A QUEST PORT NOOOOO
anons screaming this would rather have no games.

>>503897460
Okay so there are what like 40 million headsets out there... and one game?

>>503897460
It's also early access and unfinished. When it's done, whenever that is, I'm sure that it'll be great.

>>503897731
yeah anon, there's ONE pcvr game in existence. thank you for your intellectual post.
>>503897920
the argument was about games, not their state of development.

>>503897731
Even Gaben threw in the towel and is just building his headset around flat games. I wish that fat fuck would have added a proper VR mode to Counter Strike 2 or Deadlock at least.

>>503897731
One decent early access release a year is OK in the grand scheme of things are VR is more for occasional short gaming sessions and chatting. Don't treat VR as you would a regular video game medium and you'll be fine. It's unrealistic to expect VR developers to make anything as high quality as Helldivers 2 or the Factorio DLC for VR in the same year as the market is so small.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odiNjIFUNvw
hahahahahahah
...
AHAHAHAHHAHAA

>>503898921
uh oh

>>503898921
Summary:
>Persona is the 3rd party that will handle age verification
>You will need to provide a photo of a government ID
>It won't be mandatory, at least at first
>Groups will be able to make +18 instances
>It will probably affect content tags in the future

>>503898921
>Government ID
What the fuck. It's not like I'm applying for a job or anything. What bugs me about all the VRChat 'alternatives' is that none of them let you host your own server so you are always at the mercy of the vagaries of the devs.

https://youtu.be/odiNjIFUNvw

Good. Now I can create 30+ instances

>>503898921
Everything sounded good until they got to this part.
So only those with the most clout connected to the devs will get this feature first.
Faggotry.

>>503898921
I’m ok with this

Flatoids act like the state of the entire games industry isn't FotM garbage that is completely forgotten after a week, unplayably broken high budget releases, downgrade rereleases of old games, and exploitative timesinks.

>>503898921
But how will half the people here pretend they didn't know the person they were grooming was underage now?

>>503898921
Total Quest kid death

>>503898921
>decided by instance creator
Awesome, so we just tell anyone who enables that shit to fuck off.

>>503900290

>>503900443
Or we laugh at anyone who demands it be turned off for wanting to hang out with children.

>>503900443
Or we report your pedo ass to the authorities

>>503898921
>just send in your ID bro
Lol, lmao even

>>503900517
the amount of people on an anonymous image board who are fine with submitting their photo id to some random company that will do whatever they want with your data is always laughable

It's not gonna stop a 16 year old from using their parents ID and get groomed anyway.

>>503900517
>>503900572
fed

>>503900517
>>503900572
>just hand over your ID bro you can trust us bro
>nothing to hide nothing to fear bro

>>503898921
>deepfake my face
>forge id
>mfw im dumbledore
finally the game is saved

>>503900669
You don't matter, dude. No one except your family (maybe) would care if you fell dead right now
>Oh noOoOoOo they are going to do something nefarious to me, random chucklefuck with no exceptional skills or purpose
Get over yourself

>>503898921
Dang shame this was posted during EU hours. They’re going to piss and shit about not being able to groom children all day now

>>503901057
Post id

>>503901057
>never before has a company ever had a breach where a bunch of private data got leaked
>especially not some tiny tranny-run sham of a company would ever fall for this fate

>>503901057
Post your ID here right now then.

>>503901057
>service gets data breached
>now every pajeet and chink has your ID
Epic bro, truly epic

>>503901057
nigger niggegger nigger nigger nigger ninigger ngerigger nigger nigger nigniggerger ner nigger nigger nigger our system thinks your post is a spam

spamniggernigger

can some one drop me a vrc+ sub

>>503901242
yea bro here's $500 pack
you'll just need to post your photo ID first

>>503901139
>>503901167
>hurrr a pack of anonymous retards is the same as a company whose livelihood depends on a reliable process
This is why your mom makes up things when her friends ask how you are doing

>>503901242
sent :3

>>503901291

>>503901295
>hurrr company always infaliable and trustworthy
>why? they just are ok! they're paid money so they have to be!
Post email address fucking midwit, I have some shit I wanna sign you up for.

lol
lmao

>>503901295
Yeah GDPR was created for no reason lmao

>>503901242
do these greedy niggers really have a fucking $500 option for gifting VRC+ to people?
lmao

>>503901057
because companies always take their security seriously, especially when they have the real identities of a lot of known vulnerable people, and they never ever decide to sell their data sets for a quick buck either. The VRC pipeline is very well documented and there are bad actors who would very much like to know who is in that pipeline.

I haven't seen a single non-groomer opposing this update. Sorry that you can't use your futa avatar around kids anymore (not sorry). This allows event hosts to keep squeakers at bay which is a plus. Everyone gets drunk when playing which requires you to show ID to buy alcohol anyways.

>>503901583
>Please state your name and ssn to skip ad
>You must look at the ad to continue
grim

>>503901683
>oh no i got slapped on the wrist with a fine for exposing the personal data of millions of people
teehee oopsie!

Suddenly it is impossible to keep children away without ID verification, why is that?

>>503901163
Don't remind me. I'm still mad that buying a couple of anime figures a year ago may have screwed me over as Good Smile refused to even acknowledge their breach for weeks.

it was always that way its why somethingawful was the only place with an adult community back in the day

>>503901790
Exactly my point. They still do it even with the laws and regulations in place.

>>503901883
Because they outnumber adults 3 to 1 at this point.

>>503901931
>hurrr a pack of anonymous retards is the same as a company whose livelihood depends on a reliable process
This is why your mom makes up things when her friends ask how you are doing

>>503901986
I have literally never spoken to a child in all my years of VRC

>>503901986
GEE I WONDER WHY
ITS NOT LIKE VRC DEV TRANNIES FOCUS ON QUESTIES AND LITERAL PHONE USERS OVER PCVR USERS
i fucking hate this timeline

>>503902103
Anyone under 25 is a child

>>503902005
How is Good Smile a pack of anonymous retards. You VRC dev dickriders get more deranged every day.

Just play an alternative social VR game if you don't like it.

>laws are infallible
>data leaks never happen
>companies don't abuse loopholes
but at least half this thread are quest cucks so it's not surprising privacy is a foreign concept
>>503901883
the kind of parents that let their kids run free on vrc will also just do the verification for them so this won't accomplish anything in the first place

>>503901931
Sony decided to not mention their breach as well.

>>503901790
Shut up groomer chuddie. I have nothing to hide so they can do whatever they want with my name, home address, date of birth and empoyment history.

>>503902182
He's probably an ESL underage B& with poor reading comprehension.

>>503902182
It was sarcasm you retard
https://tech.co/news/data-breaches-updated-list
All of these companies have livelihood depends on a reliable process

The fact is that the livelihood of VRC doesn't depend on a data breach or not. So you get your ID leaked in a breach, go play another social VR game in protest.

>>503901575
>>503901710
>nooooo something can go wrong therefore we can't do anything ever!!!
>and this other dumb retard didn't even watch the video that clearly explains VRC gets no data beyond birthdate
The daily struggle of the imbecile. Go embarrass yourself elsewhere, I'm going to eat lunch.

>>503902213
or just, you know, opt out. this is never going to be a main stay for vrg instances.

this is the moment where Resonite, CVR, Lavender, V-Sekai need to take to gain some traction
if they don't do it now, they lose a vital opportunity
the ball is literally in your courts now, alt social vr devs
take it and run with it
this is probably your last chance after fumbling the EAC announcement

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SAVE ME NIGGERMAN

>>503902351
please post your name, home address, date of birth and empoyment history
i need it to verify something real quick

VRC is using a third party to do ID verification, some third parties are better than others, but best hope THEY don't sell any data tee hee

>>503902690
Please post your company website with secure end to end encryption and GDPR compliance.

>>503902593
>this is the moment where Resonite, CVR, Lavender, V-Sekai need to take to gain some traction
just shut the fuck up man
just shut up
shut up
it's not gonna happen

>>503902690
Sure, my name is Walter White and I live at 08 Negra Arroyo Lane, Albuquerque, New Mexico 87104

To retarded jannies: This is an address from a fictional character

Total
Groomer
Death

If you use a Meta headset and Windows 10+ you don't have any privacy anyways. Whatever it takes to keep groomers out of instances is a healthy change. Notice how the only people complaining about this show up during EU hours. Expect to see events like NA anime and drinking meets require IDs while EU equivalents suspiciously don't.

>>503903052
Meets where you don't know anyone and no-one uses 4chan it makes sense to have ID checks.

>>503903052
bad take.

>>503903227
because it's bait you mongoloid

>>503903283
correct, yes.

Might as well stare at the sun since looking at a monitor is damaging your eyes anyway lol

>"this process costs money"
>strangely there isn't a required fee to play vrc
>vrc+ most likely also will not be more expensive

Prepare for
>ads
>your data being sold
>your uploads and voice data being used to train AI
They already got you to accept the new TOS.

>>503902593
>this is the moment where Resonite, CVR, Lavender
hahahahaha
THIS IS IT BOYS!
LAVENDER WILL CAPITLIZE OFF OF THIS! THE 3 PERSON PEAK PLAYER COUNT OVER THE LAST 3 YEARS IS GONNA DOUBLE!

>>503902801
GPG encryption isn't hard, anon
I'm just going to sell your data after I get it though, but don't worry you won't actually SEE me doing it.

Valve bowing doing to quest cucks and now this... VR is fucking dead

>>503903810
June won, chud. Lavender xisters will show you in two weeks.

But joking aside three people is much higher than I thought given that the game is $40 or something stupid.

>>503902593
They missed their chance years ago. Those who left came back and have already settled back in. Unless theres a near 1-1 clone of vrc but with no bs, a take over is not happening.

>niggers losing their mind over something intended for group instances when group instances are never used here
Consider playing some VR games instead. Just finished the campaign of pic related, it was fun and there's New Game+ with higher difficulty and building your ideal trooper loadout is fun but it definitely needs few more patches surprisingly devs are slowly patching it instead of leaving it to rot but you can see the exact moment they ran out of money at the campaign end.
If only they didn't bother with the shit Hitman port and focused on this, it could have easily been coop GOTY.

>>503903052
>If you use a Meta headset and Windows 10+
What is this false dichotomy bullshit.

>>503902593
As someone who still plays CVR most weeks, I don't think they can. Youtubedl doesn't even work anymore and I don't think that they've fixed it. I wanted to put in some youtube videos for a friend and had to resort to reencoding them and putting them on my server to get them to show up. It's not like the game which is run by a German company is much better, especially as you can't host your own servers. ie https://apollo-news.net/eu-behoerde-fordert-echtzeitueberwachung-von-handys-und-laptops-ab-2025/

>>503904530
>Youtubedl
they had a patch recently that mentioned it indirectly, so hopefully that's fixed
vrchat had to do the same because youtube is fighting back against alternative ways to view its content

>>503901683
As a heads up: we mention in the video that Persona is based in the EU -- they are based in the US. However, they are still required to follow the GDPR, so that part is correct.


LOL, yea, data will be sold and will leak

I am disappointed by the age verification announcement. I wanted the option to make everyone under 21 be automatically blocked or muted, even in public worlds.

The company they're using for age verification stores your data for three years. Why are they storing it at all?

>>503904217
That game actually sounds like fun, I'll have to wrangle some friends to bro-op bug shooting with. Thanks anon.

>>503902103
have you went out out of your friends+ instances?

>>503904895
stop asking questions chud it's for your own safety

>>503904895
just in case
:)

>>503904895
to sell to advertisers and any foreign governmental agency that wants it

>>503904895
they are not storing it
they are just keeping it safe

>>503904895
Don't ask questions, goy. Just sign the TOS.

will you be handing over your ID goy?

https://strawpoll.com/2ayLQRbDWn4
https://strawpoll.com/2ayLQRbDWn4
https://strawpoll.com/2ayLQRbDWn4

>>503898921
It's something they can point to when people complain about kids being places they shouldn't and another step towards taking 18+ instances out of the grey area they still exist in.
I can't see them ever making it mandatory since it'd hurt their user numbers, but I think moderation is going to start going after instances that aren't tagged correctly when this rolls out.

I'm verifyin

>>503905648
...doesn't this just mean pedos can just NOT verify and be among other non-verified, which will now be more likely to be children?

>>503905917
Yes, but as long as the game is less notorious than Roblox or w/e it can escape scrutiny that would force them to change.

>>503904895
why does vrchat even need to store your birthdate if you are verified 18+ by the third party?

EU’S MAD THEY CANT GROOM CHILDREN LOL!!!
EU’S MAD THEY CANT GROOM CHILDREN LOL!!!
EU’S MAD THEY CANT GROOM CHILDREN LOL!!!
EU’S MAD THEY CANT GROOM CHILDREN LOL!!!
EU’S MAD THEY CANT GROOM CHILDREN LOL!!!
EU’S MAD THEY CANT GROOM CHILDREN LOL!!!

>bulk of users will be unverified
>children without government id will be unverified
>groomers simply won't verify and continue as they have been
>adults who do verify won't be given the tools to block children
who is this actually for? ERP club owners? the ERP will simply move to unverified instances or be coordinated through platforms outside of VRC

>>503906034
>who is this actually for?
the dataminers

>>503906034
>adults who do verify won't be given the tools to block children
please learn how to read

>>503906034
tencent funding in exchange for data dumps

neat

>>503898921
>Kid wants a special badge
>Grabs parent's ID
>Starts to hang out with 400k poly groomers and alcoholics
Didn't 23andMe and Ancestry have a huge data breach recently, causing shit like cold cases being reopened and board members mass resigning?

>>503905642
more shitty merchandise no one will buy?
VRHat must have been a failure

I like how we all shit and piss each others pants, but we will essentially do nothing but continuing sucking tuppers (or rather VRChats) cockle. Nothing will change, we will do everting VRChat wants from us.

So why not just skip to the end and post content unrelated to the ID shit?

>>503906012
Why ARE there so many EU groomers compared to NA? It always struck me as odd. But what >>503906663 said. We are going to just end up giving them our IDs anyways as it's not like it matters. People have wanted a way to keep squeakers out of DJ events and the like for a while anyways.

>>503906136
>please learn how to read
It's a control for group instances only. I want it to be on the user settings. I want the freedom to go into public worlds and not be pestered by children under 30

>>503906663
>post content
what content vr has no games

>vrchat devs could have made it so all children must make child accounts with parental consent
>this could isolate all children away from potential groomers by default
>nah lets make people send us their IDs so they can make gooning instances instead without our investors getting mad about children walking into those
second life solved this problem back in 2003

>>503905352
wait I got an even better one

https://strawpoll.com/LVyK21jA8Z0
https://strawpoll.com/LVyK21jA8Z0

please vote

>>503906663
>>503906862
So true fellow /vrg/ers from 4channel.org
Let's talk about the exciting parts of VR!

I love how VRC tranny devs always make announcements like this right before a holiday weekend
interesting pattern of behavior

this is just a toe in the water. wait till content uploads get gated behind real id :^)

I bet if you tagged your avatar with anything 18+ it will get locked until you provide your id

>>503908060
>trash gooners can't use their avatars until they send their ID to the good goyim corporation
lmao

>>503906012
I just won't verify that questboycunny is MINE AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA MIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNEEEEE!

>>503908060
yet another thing preventing someone from seeing another persons avatar lol.
>Your a robot lol
>Undo your safety setting
>Robot
>Unrestrict your download size
>robot
>Override and show avatar
>sussy
>Did you verify?
>yeah
>are you on quest
>yes
this is so painfully its funny

anyways, enough about the yearly doomposting about what vrchat tranny devs are doing...
back to doomposting about what Valve is planning!

>>503905352
>>503907359
so many feds in this thread

>>503909246
>doomposting about Valve
impossible. gabe can do no wrong

>>503908060
Why would anyone have an 18+ avatar in a meetup anyways. Keep that shit in private. No I'm not going to give anyone my ID.

>>503909246
He'll save VR. Deckard, Roy, Half Life 3, and Ukraine's victory over Russia, all definitely happening in two weeks for real this time.

>>503909660
*cough*
please refer to
>>503799778
>>503800469
>>503804459
>>503887958

>>503909673
this community is 18+

>>503909673
even if you have nude mesh under your clothes it's 18+

>>503909673
i do just to make you mad

>>503909835
Still not giving tupper my ID. Enjoy being a grey robot.

>>503909673
You forget how lazy and incompetent most are with avatars
I've had anons from join me butt naked to non vrg events. I don't ERP or do anything that would have warranted that.
this is why im perpetually on orange

>>503910164
>i saw a nakey avatar once and now im afraid of people
fucking retard lmao

I'll probably give over my ID because the idea of having FOMO on a friday/saturday night when i see a friend i want to visit is in an 18+ instance and I can't get in.

>>503910806
Surely that would be a non issue as your friends will be in /vrg/ instances or at least instances hosted by someone from /vrg/ or /vrg/-adjacent, right? Right?

>>503906034
Tranny Tda strip clubs with Ukraine, Palastine, and LGBT flags all around the instance

>>503911274
It's very likely that /vrg/ instance hosts will start using the new features. People don't take kindly to having their avatars auto-hidden.

>>503910608
Yes. I don't want to hear, see, feel or think about you fuckers doing it. Let alone WHEN IM HOSTING A NON-VRG INSTANCE.
desu its my fault for friending you guys

>>503911659
Instance host here. Absolutely using 18+ feature. Get fucked euro groomers.

>>503907359
Turn out all the groomers are American LMAO

>>503913329
I'd have no problem with it if there were value for the end user beyond access to group owned goon rooms, but I am not a gooner so the verification adds no value.

>everyone with the 18+ badge will out themselves as a gooner
lol
lmao

So that's it? The only people mad about this are just upset that their ERP avatars will get auto-hidden now?

How does this work with GDPR EU bros? I just verify then tell them to remove all data they have about me.

>>503914376
they're an amerishart company, anything that lands on their servers will immediately be backed up a million times by the NSA

>>503883136
No...

>>503896015
>though play a bit of trombone and join to see my friends in vrchat
>it's midnight already
Why the fuck it's so addictive

>>503914376
LOL, LMAO
>>503908060
NSWF tags were always a trap

>>503906012
how can it ever stop grooming? non verified people can talk to children anyway

>>503898921
9/11 for pedophiles

only furry pedos hate this

How will they verify it's my ID if I only send them a picture of a ID?

>>503904752
>LOL, yea, data will be sold and will leak
Not mine. I have Incogni.

>>503917176
Gotta send a selfie too

>>503914603
Goverment backing it up is not big of an issue, private companies selling the data, dats breachers etc is bad. And in the end, being lewd in VRC is not illegal if it's with consenting adults.
Still, I do not like to send my ID anywhere, and GDPR will apply else VRChat will simply not be allowed in EU.

>>503917176
You have to send a selfie too. They explained that

>>503917729
>>503917176
what if youre trans and u transitioned while ur id is still old

It would be better if Persona allowed you to block out the portions of your ID in the photo except the parts that are needed to verify your age. At least they will only be sharing my DOB with VRChat, so it won't stop me from making multiple smurf accounts to host my NSFW avatar uploads.

>>503903052
Meta and windows 10 has never asked me to show them my ID

>>503901683
Nice, EU is all good then.

Anybody here bought Valve Index in unsupported country ? I dont want to use ebay or shit like that since i want warrantry so yeah how can it be done (i can cross the border ez for it) (im not getting zucced im gabens best whore)

>>503911659
Instance host here I will continue using friends+. ID requirements are garbage. No social platform or game I used before asked for this.

>>503918898
If they don't sell it on Steam or don't have official reseller then they won't RMA if you need it. If you can ask someone to send it out for RMA from home address in country where Index is sold they won't have problem with it. Honestly might be safer and cheaper to get something from HTC even if it's objectively inferior HMD.

>>503904752
Doesn't California already have something similar to GDPR?

>>503919392
Shame i guess then i will get my uncle on it (when i get money lol)

>>503918898
>not getting zucced
>why yes I want to pay three times as much for a shitty 5 year old headset

>>503917729
that's not what they said.
they said you need access to a phone camera or a PC camera.
Their software will take photos of you from at least 3 angles.

This is exactly how it will work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8IMLBW2N4k

>>503920065
>why yes I want to pay three times as much for a shitty 5 year old headset
Well what to say some people have standards.

>>503917308
>he thinks incogni really does anything
if they got you - they shared and sold you, you won't clean it up

>>503917308
lol
lmao
Remember kids, anytime a company is saying "such as" in a contract, they picked the most sane ones, so laymen like you can read it and be like "Yeah that does sound reasonable". But this "such as" never will include everything they do with your data.

>>503899992
so all the venues that gather at least 80 people.

>>503883136
Jesus Christ, how horrifying

>>503834306
>>503838187
>>503862732
https://rentry.org/yc4gqewn
Recorders are ready for you and your dulcet tones. Keep an eye out for them in game and politely ask if they're free to record you. Cut off to be recorded is 1200 UTC December 8th.
SEA Recorders: moistbobo, Noxsea
EU Recorders: Orenji, Uzugu, Karkeys (unavailable till the 2nd)
NA Recorders: DJ Desu, Mentlesaur, PGPweasel
I ask that you please sing the parts marked [Everybody Sings]. If you could also sing at least one verse that'd be mega. Those that are feeling extra melodious can try their hand at submitting the whole song.
You can also chose to submit your own mp3 voice recording with a different mic, link up with a recorder for the video portion, then send the sound clip their way. No need for this it can all be done in game to keep things simple.
Always looking for more volunteers, if you can work OBS and think a particular group/timezone isn't covered by our crew please step forward.
Comments, queries, concerns and complaints to Karkeys, though it may be difficult to address until the 2nd of December.

>>503920938
There are plenty of venues that can gather 80 people that aren't sucking the cock of every developer and ponying up to them to get early access to features.

/vrg/ is one such community.
Not like we'd personally need the 18+ stuff, I'm just pointing out how retarded it is to initially roll out features only to a select group of people who suck the devs dicks.

>>503920775
>we don't sell you data
>we just a have a partnership contract with marketing service providers which will use your data for marketing

;3

>>503921881
>if we are partnered with the company and get paid for our partnership it isn't selling
>it's just sharing

:^)

>>503883180
great dancing, see you next timeee, here you have the vids:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbCD9wKrD-k&list=PLqVTVLsIotSkcLSEOHSeWZvibHAP6D377

https://rentry.org/vrgpypy

I'm going to read more of the fine print and give it a month to see how it's implemented.

>>503920775
Wait, that's the wrong privacy policy, it's for the persona users.

The privacy policy for
> and individuals who verify their identities via Persona's business customers (e.g. if you have a relationship with our business customer and you are verifying your identity as a part of your relationship with that business customer).

Is here https://withpersona.com/legal/privacy-policy

>>503922758
i forgor pic

>>503922810
VRC Struggles to make money as is. It's more akin to a social media than an actual game. So no doubt there's heavy incentives to sell data. But I have to do more research, like I said.

dont care, still verifying

>>503922873
it's not that much better anyway...