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Total Trashnig Death.
Thread 515661421 · 02/25/25(Tue)06:14:01 UTC · 776 posts, 180 images. Archived from 4chan /vrg/; deleted posts are not shown.
"Virtual Reality, Real Suffering"
Skyrim VR Edition
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>Game Resources
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>Regularly Hosted Multiplayer Games
EU Pavlov: Tuesday 19:00 UTC (20:00 CET)
NA Pavlov: Every other Friday night, watch the thread for exact times
NA Walkabout Minigolf: Thursday at 10PM ET
SEA/EU Walkabout Minigolf: Saturday at 13:00 UTC/11:00PM AEST
NA Assetto Corsa: Wednesday at 8PM ET
EU Assetto Corsa: Every other Monday at 19:00 UTC/20:00 CET
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>Regularly Hosted VRChat Events
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New threads: >>>/vg/vrg
Old thread: >>515382714 (Cross-thread)
>Upcoming Events
TED Talk Event - March 15th
Total Trashnig Death.
>>515661747
hey it's the electionfag that can't stop talking about gay shit
whats up
fag projector is here too, huh
Showing Crusher Joe tonight at 10PM ET (20.5 hours from now) for NA anime movie night. I'll post details to join off of when the instance is up.
this is the end of the bonerlab campaign right? I can uninstall the game now?
Just got done playing some unironic skyrim VR for the first time in 7 years. FUS modpack (found a precompiled download on the russian site so I didn't have to pay the nexus goy tax) . Even with all the VR mods, the controls are pretty clunky; I kind of expected things to be more streamlined by now but it's not. I suppose I'll get used to it eventually.
As reddit as it sounds, it was actually pretty comfy to sit in a chair at the inn and listen to the bard sing the meme song, as I sipped some tea irl.
>>515662425
Now you join us for bonerlab MP
how easy would it be to make an archery minigame and some basic quests with udon when I get this into unity? thinking about having npc guards walking around as well
>>515662447
I'm tempted to give it another shot since the last time I tried it was probably 7 years ago too.
Not sure even VR and mods could get me interested enough to actually replay Skyrim though.
>>515662772
In principal, easy, but the devil is in the details.
>>515662772
>archery mini game
Archery is cool, I played that archery time attack world in vrc just now and it was fun.
>>515662447
It's a game that's so heavily built around menus that you are going to never be able to get it to not be clunky to some extent, but it's pretty playable as long as you're not doing anything complex and the amount of content between the game + mods is still unmatched for VR outside of VRC.
>>515661747
Physically stop me from touching myself cockhead!
Gonna be hosting game world again at 6pmjst (2hours from now) we will be trying out new worlds and some more darksoul
>>515659356 (Cross-thread)
omg yeah, i see what you mean now. gorgeous shit. The whole world reminds me of Stray and I want to try playing that someday. Sorry for the late response since I started a call with someone after we were done so I couldn't be on it that much, but next time I will take a better look. I love world exploration sooo much hehe
>>515664890
I'll be there, anon!
>>515662447
No matter how many mods you put in it it's still skyrim for good or bad.
>>515662425
No that key you got given opens that door and then you have the long series of puzzles where you need to use those avatars you unlocked at different stages.
>>515668470
what door? you put it into the crane map and it seems to unlock nothing?
>>515668720
The door you were slapping. Not sure why it wasn't opening for you but there's like two more levels after it.
>>515662772
I will now share you the archery prefab we use for fbf. Vowgan is a god
https://x.com/Vowgan/status/1811889736572653930
Have fun anon
>>515668968
Oh and incase you don't have a twitter here's a direct link
https://virtualvisions.github.io/VPM-Packages/
>>515664890
You have my sword
>optimized avatar, went for good rating
>decimated it to shit, hair now looks like it's ripped from a latest PSX release
>won't use it for anything but imposter
>meaning, everyone I like will still see a very poor one
Eh, it was pointless, wasn't it? Would make more sense to do minor optimizations to a real one instead.
>>515672440
Make a single outfit avatar with minimal effects and accessories and delete every part of the mesh hidden by the clothes. Atlas it down to a handful of materials so you're medium or better. Use this for big instances, events, meetups. Save the very poor for intimate or small meets.
>>515661747
Stop talking like an anti-gay closeted dick sucking politician
>>515672440
I wish character modeling was a thing I was good at, especially hair modeling.
Remember scavs spawn a little while after you spawn into a raid so if you move out of spawn they have the potential to spawn in behind you. Stay sharp and don't get flanked, exphiles.
>>515664890
starting off with town of salem
>>515673103
Wanna come to Z's new map first? He's giving me a tour.
>>515672837
>Atlas it down to a handful of materials so you're medium or better.
Materials-wise, sure, but full-rating-wise, I can't imagine it working out for any booth. Those things get 50k+ poly just for body, and then clothes are never low-poly either. I think I'll simply start ignoring polycount, though removing parts of the body that are hidden behind clothes is obviously a great thing to do. I think there was even an unity-side plugin for that, based on model hiding shape keys? Guess I can still begooddespite not being <Good>
>Use this for big instances, events, meetups. Save the very poor for intimate or small meets.
That's some nice logic, I'll start doing that.
>>515673103
https://vrch.at/9tjn73ey
totally didnt forget to send the link haha
>>515564670 (Cross-thread)
>>515673457
Polygons are definitely overrated in terms of a performance problem, the low counts cone from the legacy behaviour of unity: the stats assume that you have shapekeys operating on those polygons to act as a performance problem. What us underrated are CPU draw stuff like animators and layers since they aren't rated at all but make up a good 40% of the performance impact of bad avatars. Stuff like material count, mesh count and stuff like that is far more important too. But go over 70k polygons and people stop caring about the other things too
>>515673610
coming now ty for link
Mahjong yesterday was really fucking funny.
>>515673610
wrld_e8eb7e58-a805-4dc3-99a8-8201e3d27fc5:16631~hidden(usr_4f3da6fa-2b71-4d7f-9418-867c77fde8e2)~region(jp)
>>515661747
I love cute fembussy
>>515676458
peak kino end to a 3v1 murderer left
>>515662375
Good choice. Will probably be to asleep for that but I hope you guys have fun!
>>515664890
Thanks for hosting anon! Really shows how you can get an instance going at any time of the day if you press on it.
>>515664890
Sankyu for the host was fun~
>>515681535
>>515687641
>>515689259
>>515673103
Town of salem will be attemped again tmr at the same time
im gonna learn how to host it better
would help alot if those interested read up on the common roles and what they do
Dead game
>>515689527
which game?
>>515689507
Roger that!
hey FAGGOTS
do you like to RAMBLE about your AUTISTIC HOBBY but feel it's too awkward or imposing to just start rambling in your day to day conversations?
well you definitely can at the VRG TED TALK EVENT
>Do I need to prepare anything
You probably should be prepared generally speaking
>How would we present a power point
For now Youtube video on a throwaway account that you can just pause between each slide.
>when?
March 15th
>What do I present
anything you dingus your hobbies interests life lessons your career literally ANYTHING as long as your having FUN
>do I have to present
no you can sit back and listen if you don't feel comfortable with public speaking
>signup sheet?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vGnyJao3j1-IazSWyQq-kvwikKJdWLIzYumuLOncBhg/edit?usp=sharing
SIGN UP SO I CAN GAUGE THE ACTUAL TIME I CAN ALOCATE FOR EVERYONE
also wear your silliest costume while you present if you desire
>see group move to trash compactor instance
>instance closed
fuck you too lizard nigger
WAIT, ISNT IT TATATATARATATATATATATATATATA DAY?!
>>515691463
horrryyyyyyy shittttooooooo
these niggas smoochin' in Amogus
Dunno if the guy is around here but I misremembered the name of the source map I mentioned in the trash compactor map
it was mg_3k_smash_redux
https://gamebanana.com/mods/127651
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeKzjqV_N20
Why does 5.56 not do more damage in Pavlov? It mogs other calibers it seems and it's used as a war ammo irl.
>>515692061
Sus
>>515692748
It's a videogame it's not meant to be realistic
>>515692896
cop out answer
https://streamable.com/2896zy
NA Pavlov circa 2019
I’ve been trying to go to a vr event for weeks now but it always ends up in a failure. It gets full so fucking fast. I can’t keep up. Even if I waited, it becomes immediately full instantly. The event name is Bar Lilith in vrc
I am desperate. I want to experience this weekly event once. I don’t mind sacrificing my account. Does anyone know an instance bypass that lets you in despite full instances.
>>515694329
Protip: Group instances tab refresh much slower than friend instances tab. The instance makers are announced hours before on their Twitter account, just send them a friend request, they should accept.
>>515694329
have you tried turning off and on again?
>>515694329
>Lilith
that name is a massive red flag
good luck chaser
>>515694329
Booth Babes, Japan is good. I only have well wishes in you anon you can do it. Follow the other anon’s advice and add the host as friend to get in early
>>515694329
I went with J once, its just drinking and fanservice. Only thing I know we did was preload the world hour before it started
>>515694526
Imo. Its friends only instance. World is invite only and not public. And they explicitly said to only join through their friends.
>>515694596
Its Japan not those troons. Dw about it
>>515695314
You can still pull world ID and create instance of private worlds with VRCX
im thinking aobut an RTX 3060 16GB. im guessing this is pretty good for most of VR. what is a good cpu to pair with it? 12th gen intel something
>>515691182
it wrapped up a few minutes after it was closed
>>515691182
>>515696083
yeah we closed it, said goodbye, honked titties and then slipped out of VR
>>515696057
to be more specific i want to play no man's sky vr and skyrim vr and vr chat
>>515696057
5800x3d, 5700x3d, 5600x3d, 7800x3d or 9800x3d
Also >3060 get at least 4070 with 16 gigs or something
>>515696258
you'd have to make some serious visual compromise to play NMS and skyrim VR with a gpu that weak
what headset are you gonna use? i wouldn't really recommend something weaker than a 4070ti for VR
>>515696419
>Also >3060 get at least 4070 with 16 gigs or something
why faggot
>>515696438
>you'd have to make some serious visual compromise to play NMS and skyrim VR with a gpu that weak
interesting
>what headset are you gonna use
quest 2
>wouldn't really recommend something weaker than a 4070ti for VR
i feel like this is complete nonsense but im not entirely sure
>>515696465
3060 is too slow to render 3k x 3k per eye
>>515696578
i seen this guy doin it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEDeUKFiSFg
>>515696057
>>515696057
It won't be pretty good, but i guess it'll run things, more or less. I can see you're not exactly aiming for higher price brackets, but if you can save up and go for ryzen 7600x, it's probably a good idea since it'll give you am5 socket for cheaper future upgrades. Saves up on the longer run, plus 7600x is already considerably good.
>>515696638
What frametimes he is getting and render resolution is he running huh?
>>515696709
my man has it cranked down to my zone where i live in the no textures mode
>>515694246
it's funny to look back into 2019 pavlov webms and realize how much more janky this game looked like back then. I didn't even notice any improvements through years, but combined, it looks like night and day.
>>515696934
>that perma-X-shaped static fire PFX
>>515696691
that is an interesting idea. thank you bob saget
>>515697140
soldier models looked kinda better in some ways sometimes, though can't quite put my finger on it
How do you go from this
>>515697369 to that
Its kinda fun
>>515696057
It will function but it won't be ideal. The extra vram sounds good on paper but I'd imagine the card will probably choke and die due to low processing power long before that extra vram helps. The 60 series also tends to have dogshit bandwidth so even if you had a 5060 it's probably going to run worse than like a 2080. An index alone driving at full resolution@144hz which is on the low end of resolution can pull something like 15-16gb/s while a 3060 can only push right around that best case. Something on the higher end of resolution like a quest 3/quest pro/bigscreen/ect can easily exceed that and just cause hard bottlenecks no matter how much juice or vram the card has. If you're trying to save money you're probably better off going for a 3070 and if you've got more budget and can find one the 4070ti super is by far the best performance/dollar with 80 series bus speed you can find right now and will likely be able to find for a while. If you really want extra vram you can find used 3090s on ebay for as low as 600-800usd sometimes which will be the peak power per dollar though if you're lucky you can rarely find a 4070ti super for close to msrp. Honestly if you're dead set on that price range I'd even look into just grabbing a used 3080 before I'd pay msrp for a 3060 or even at least move to a 3060ti.
>>515697369
needs liltoon
>>515706215
I made that years ago when mods were tied to Pavlov maps. Are there any other shades I can use with UE5?
>>515706767
UE5 materials use a node graph, so you can make whatever you want.
Fuck, I just want 6090 already.
Can't wait for the Nvidia 10k90 that needs to be installed like a window mounted AC
>>515707915
Replace your boiler with a new GPU and voila! Too cold in the house? Run furmark!
5090 is using the same techprocess as 4090, and it's still better.
6090 will use a new node and will shit on both.
>>515674745
true
>>515708342
>Too cold in the house? Run furmark!
Or mine crypto, so you get untraceable internetbucks at the same time.
>>515698573
Of course this post would be made during EU hours.
Anything happening today?
kek, someone at khronos felt the need to write a response to the meta-openxr shitstorm and had to do it very diplomatically because meta is one of the biggest members.
>>515712678
arbeit macht frei
>>515713063
>meta-openxr shitstorm
?
what happened?
weren't facebook one of the biggest shills of openxr?
>>515698573
Please watch this safety instruction before you operate the forklift:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJdCJMyBi5I
>>515696057
anon, if you're on a budget, get a 4060 12gb or whatever the bigger vram version is. trust us.
if you can't afford at least 4090, you might as well play quest standalone
pcvr is not for poorfags
>>515673457
It's really not hard. Most of the time you can unsubdivide bodies that are really high poly for clean results.Just be selective about what parts you use automated methods for. Otherwise use alt+select on your edges to select edge loops and dissolve them.
>>515713398
They did some stuff that made their engine plugin not work with non-meta runtimes.
>https://mbucchia.github.io/OpenXR-Toolkit/ovrplugin.html
>>515714186
Oh, who cares about off-the-shelf garbage for retards.
I thought it was something serious.
And what do you even need that plugin for? OpenXR by itself is as simple as it can get.
It's Tuesday! Time for Pavlov Search and Destroy!
At 1900 UTC
Join the community server: "Gem Server!"
Password is 6479
>>515714564
headpat people when you join anyway!
i rather play push or anything else
search and destroy is so fucking boring you just get blasted by some mega gamer that has 18k hours in pavlov and CS2 combined and knows all the fucking and then you have to sit there for 8 minutes not doing shit
>>515715571
Sounds like a skill issue, but s&d is gay indeed.
I stopped playing that shit a long time ago.
>>515715571
try not to get shot?
Can we start kicking people who go around with pacifiers in their avatar's mouths?
>>515716218
let people enjoy things
>>515714527
>just write your own engine bro
It's a problem when meta's is the most used plugin with all the boilerplate between the engine and the runtime, and despite advertising OpenXR support, doesn't actually work on non-meta headsets. Just another step in the slow slide to quest-only VR.
>>515715571
stay in the back behind your teammates and get kills that way
>>515716345
>just write your own engine bro
You can't make a good vr game without writing your own engine.
It sucks, but there are no shortcuts.
>>515715571
you have more options than "try to headshot them before they headshot you"
try them
I find it funny that even though we're all on the same 5 to 6 VR headsets, everyone has a different fucking audio quality
Some niggers audio is so garbage that even 200% volume increase doesnt help them
>>515715571
This, and so I will never play pavlov
>>515716701
For some reason Vive chooses to cheap the fuck out on mics on their $1000+ headsets
>>515716782
>>515716701
There's a funny bug with vive pro where it'll actually pitch up your microphone by a degree, making you sound female. I've seen it happen to two separate people and it takes refreshing the audio devices to fix.
>>515716927
anon thats not a bug
thats fucking femoids slipping up while trying to get into our space pretending to have deep manly voices
get the fuck outta there
>>515716494
pictured: anon playing all the great VR games written in their own custom engine, with their own custom compositor, on their own custom VR hardware, in their own custom society.
We'll join you someday, king.
>>515716927
i think htc had some sort of deal with the chinks to put on the worst and cheapest mic on their headsets for all of time.
>>515715571
Push is about 2 minutes of running to the combat and then 4 seconds of being shot from across the map by someone you never saw. At least in S&D you get to shoot back
>>515716331
Can't say I'm enjoying people going around signalling their ABDL fetish.
>>515716494
Plenty of fun VR games around with off the shelf engines.
>>515717152
>YOU DIDN'T MAKE THE GAME IF YOU DIDN'T GRIND THOSE ROCKS TO MAKE SILICON FOR YOUR GPU!
There is a whole scale from "making your own atoms" to "farting into LLM to produce a game".
Vulkan/OpenXR is easily doable. It's pretty much as much control as you can need, well, you can make better compute kernels in cuda, but vulkan is only ~2x worse for the worst case scenario.
>>515717703
Fun is subjective. I can't really name even a single vr game that is objectively good and doesn't use in-house written engine.
>>515715571
The nice part of the S&D spectator mode is you can actually watch how people better than you play, and learn the map layout. Push would be better if they gave you more cooldown between respawns to spectate the match in the same way, and also spawned groups of people at the same time instead of individually. Like, uh, S&D rounds.
>>515718132
What in house engine vr games can you even name?
Fallout, Skyrim and LA Noire?
>>515714564
>sidelocked mini-14 to CT and added a semi-auto Vz.58 to T
>>515719672
Alyx?
>>515715571
DM/TDM is boring grind with people shooting you in all directions. Push maps are all giant empty maps, which are boring, except of maybe Battery. Gungame is fun for 5 minutes. Hide or TTT the same.
SnD has the most staying power, is not a crazy grind and gives players purpose. It's the most fun gamemode.
>>515719932
SnD is lame and gay.
Speaking of which, maybe that's why it so popular with trashnigs.
>>515719820
Alyx, Elite Dangerous, Dirt Rally (this one's premium good because their switch to UE fucked everything up). There's more racing sims on their own engines, and I guess there's also bethesda shitware.
not this anon though, i don't exactly believe that people can outperform billion dollar projects with nothing but autism.
>>515720169
Nice complete lack of argument. Don't play it if you don't like it. Fact is no-one plays anything else so you can go play some empty lobbies by yourself to cure your trashnig infection paranoia.
>>515719820
abandonware engine without sdk. Alyx mods are so clunky to play I don't even bother
>NOOO YOU ALL HAVE THE WRONG OPINION AND SHOULD STOP RUNNING THE LOBBY THAT HAS HAPPENED AT LEAST ONCE A WEEK FOR 6 YEARS AND SHOULD START PLAYING MY GAME MODE INSTEAD DESPITE THAT BEING TRIED MULTIPLE TIMES AND DYING WITH 3 PLAYERS
>>515720202
and now a good VR game which is not a cockpit sim
>>515720202
>i don't exactly believe that people can outperform billion dollar projects with nothing but autism
Soulful craftsmanship > soulless factory-produced slop.
You don't need to have tripple anness onion of war tier production to make a good game, if anything it's the opposite.
>>515720615
>Soulful craftsmanship
provide an example already
>>515718132
Yeah, it's all relative. I don't think operating at the OpenXR level is actually that valuable though. OpenXR is actually pretty trash in the same way all of Khronos' labyrinthine designed-by-committee APIs are. I'm sure you get stockholmed into liking it eventually, but man, OpenVR was so much simpler. And it's still the only API you can write compositor overlays in (which sure, is mostly Valve's fault for not implementing any overlay extensions in SteamVR, but it's still a failing of the ecosystem).
>>515720615
you can very much do soulful unity slop, it's just that with a custom engine you spend your effort into rewriting mechanics you'd like to have in game, and with basic bitch unity you spend this time on gameplay and fun
you can absolutely outperform AAAslop in terms of fun, but you can't deny the fact that by choosing to operate on lower level, you spend time on reinventing the wheel and you could've spent it on making actual game instead
>>515720401
>sdk
Why would they need an sdk when it's their own engine. That's the whole point.
>>515720756
PS2 era games. The last gen before off-the-shelf trash killed the game industry.
>>515720858
>Why would they need an sdk when it's their own engine. That's the whole point.
So people can use Source VR to make mods and games properly
>>515720849
>rewriting mechanics you'd like to have in game
News flash, you have to rewrite everything if you want things to work properly anyway.
With unity/unreal it's very easy to make an fps that kinda works, but to make it work well is unironically harder than writing your own things from scratch, simply because you not only need to have complete understanding of fundamentals, but also engine specific quirks. It's a superset, not a subset.
>>515721071
This is not what this discussion is about.
EU Assetto Corsa: European Racing club
Race 91
19:00 UTC 20:00 CET, 3rd of March 2025.
HELSINKIIIII, THUUUNDEEER. We're getting on 90ties GTR and going to the country of fastest men - Finland!
1 hour practice
12 minutes qualifiers
10 laps race
Afterwards, going all the way to Vladivostok to drive around a small scenic track.
Assetto - can be played with wheel, controller, or steam-vr-wheel addon, it doesn't matter, we will all have fun driving together. If you just bought Assetto - grab Assetto Corsa Content Manager - a better launcher and mod manager: https://assettocorsa.club/content-manager.html To install mods: just drag and drop zip files from mega onto the Content Manager windows and click on the hamburger menu on top right. Highly recommend installing stable custom shader patch and 7-zip plugin in Content manager.
For communication we'll use mumble at voice.vrg.party port 64738, as it doesn't need any registrations or logins.
https://www.mumble.info/
I can't recommend enough Crew Chief
https://thecrewchief.org/
He's a helpfull AI fellow in the pits who'll provide you information about your car, your opponents, yell at you or try to encourage you. And most importantly, he will spot for you, in case you have a car in you blind spot.
UI radar are immersion breaking and basically cheating, but this guy will tell you verbally if someone is there on your right. Download, install, select Assetto Corsa in game list, press "Start application" and it should work!
MODS: https://mega.nz/folder/a3wQ1JCI#vOuyrPw_Uk_uHzgzOLRmQw
If you wish to make a VR game from scratch, you must first invent the universe.
>>515690960
I've signed up, look forward to a work talk.
>>515720818
>And it's still the only API you can write compositor overlays in
Technically, OpenXR can support overlays by design, the whole frame submission is built around layers in the first place.
I only ever used one, but the API advertised support for up to 16 and that's enough to implement pretty much everything steamvr overlays do.
Stockholm syndrome wise, maybe you are right, but both vulkan/openxr mostly only do things that you really need to do anyway.
If you throw away mobile trash like renderpasses from vulkan, which you can easily do on pc, and go bindless, vulkan is fine.
>>515702089
very cool thanks
>>515707819
just wait two weeks
>>515721465
What came first, the universe or mathematical laws?
>>515724075
The chad universe to bully the virgin math nerds.
>>515715571
SPECTATE
AND
WATCH
>>515724075
numbers were not meant to be solved
>>515724075
Math is just a human description of our perception of how the universe works. No one is omnipotent so we can't even be sure they're 'laws' truly.
>>515725871
Fundamentally it deals with the basic units of existence though; information, the bit. We operate in base 10 but mathematical principles operate on any base.
>>515725871
Today, anon tries to argue that 1+1≠2
>>515727143
To be fair, it took Whitehead and Russell's Principia Mathematica 1000 pages to prove that indeed, 1+1=2.
hey!!
movie starting soon! in about 10 minutes!
tonight we're watching Kin-dza-dza!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091341/
something something potato budget slav sci-fi
https://vrch.at/jfdgxara or join off Lumadurin !
>>515728580
dyadya vova...
>>515729126
dios mio!
>>515728580
>soviet tatooine
>endless loading screen on vrc launch
>unity crash
what do?
>>515732902
I'm having it too...
>it's clippover
>>515732976
restarted PC an it works now...
>>515732976
restarted steam we back
>>515715571
S&D without mods is the best gamemode. If Pavlov had contractors domination gamemode and you could play it on the S&D maps it would be the best casual gamemode, maybe even better then vanilla S&D.
$1500 heavies pack a bit too much punch for their price imo
they should only ding helmet in one shot and kill in four bodyshots imo
>>515733309
which one are you thinking about
>>515733259
Vanilla snd without jumping, custom maps, and better weapon balance is litterally unplayable.
>>515733382
both
EPIC PAVLOVING
Everything perfectly balanced except scar h not being 1 headshot
argument: 7.62x51
>>515733309
Was considering suggesting 75 helmet bleed anyway.
>>515733309
>>515733382
Most likely m14 mini, vz58, sks
>>515733417
It is literally the best, even today niggers were running around on the roof during inferno.
The best Pavlov was played back when we had no mods, no faction guns or other stuff. Everything added since then is a downgrade.
>>515733259
Vanilla SnD was always "buy one of maybe 5 weapons or just full save while you get rekt" and when the weapons were sidelocked with no thought at all it only got worse.
>>515733759
Factioned guns are vanilla and Gem server had a modded balance table since 2019.
>>515733518
counterargument: gameplay is more important than realism
All you had to do was copy paste cs to a tee dave but noooooo
>>515733518
It would just a better AK47.
>>515733943
Yes, Faction guns is another great Dave idea, like the full auto AUG, balance table back then was ok'ish, even if running without it would be just as fine.
>>515733784
Nah, if you knew your shit it was all fine, AKM vs AKM stuff was kino.
>>515733259
Would domination even work well on S&D maps? They're so rigid compared to maps made for other genres.
>>515734083
It had mechanics closer to CS in 2018 and it was basically unplayable. Cone fire is basically a flat game cope to make the mouse accuracy imperfect, when combined with manual aiming in VR it resulted in absurd inaccuracy. It was basically one tap people in the head with the AK or waste your money on some shit that will miss the entire magazine from 5 meters.
>>515733518
Pretend it's a 5.56 SCAR.
>>515734397
Just have 2 flags you fight over at each spawn, would play like S&D but more casual.
Maybe some anti spawn camp counteemeasure.
>>515734643
except its obviously the H variant, it RECOILS like the h variant, it fires as slow as the H variant.....
if it isnt a 1 hit to the head then at least make it so that if i hit somebody in the head with armor they are left with 5 hp.
>>515733309
What if we reduced the firerate and made the recoil worse? Then it would be more comparable to the deagle but with more ammo
>>515734474
So only one implementation of it got tried and all the vr newfags back then decided it was terrible. Meanwhile the reality now is grug mode turn brain off with RDS and peek everyone like a tard. Literally COD4 with extrasteps.
Try holding an angle here just to die like a bitch, or worse, get traded (i love default UE netcode!!!)
>>515734968
The issue is that it's a headshot machine, way too easy to pop helmets with it, changing the firerate/recoil won't fix that
>>515734968
That just makes them into the old SKS/M110. Remove the 1 hit headshot and give them a tiny recoil reduction to compensate or something.
>gay retards in charge of game balance
Will do 75 helmet bleed. The only significant recoil happens if you fire it as fast as possible.
>>515734798
That's what I mean, you'd have to fundamentally change the maps to not be degenerate with respawns. You'd be better off using like COD or halo maps at that point.
>>515470715 (Cross-thread) here
i got an answer and pics from the guy back, the fucking trackers are UN-FUCKING-USED
I'm so gonna fucking buy it all off him,
440 bucks for all of this? I made a deal of a lifetime.
Just gonna buy belts for the trackers and I'm set.
If you dont hear back from me, I got shanked btw
>>515736536
based god speed anon
don't forget to tell someone where you're going and when you expect to be back
>>515736536
>If you dont hear back from me, I got shanked btw
kek anon
>>515736217
please consider >>515734896
>>515736536
can't wait for the rape dungeon streams!
>>515734896
It's going to need a big bodyshot TTK nerf down to the level of the G3/AKM, arguably even more than those two because it has the benefit of attachments, or it's going to be overpowered.
>>515736704
It could be differentiated with a higher helmet bleed (less than 100) and a price increase.
world builder question:
for this effect https://vimeo.com/362071309
I need an "activator" at the feet of each avatar. I guess I can spawn an empty gameobject and parent it to each player?
What would I need to look for to make sure that every player avatar has this certain game object parented in their hierachy, no matter if they join sooner or later than the one observing the effect?
Can anybody give me any hints?
>>515737990
Assuming you mean vrchat, you can "parent" a gameobject manually by moving it to the local player's head tracking data every frame. If you need every player to have something that also exists on remote clients, I think the state of the art is https://creators.vrchat.com/worlds/udon/persistence/player-object/ , which obviates some of weirder object pooling systems you used to have to use; you'll still have to manually move them to the local player's position though; vrchat doesn't let you directly access the player rig GameObjects.
>>515664890
>6pmjst
Please pick a real timezone, some of us still have to live in meatspace
Kuu!
I vaguely remember some other gamedev anon mention that the Half Life Alyx devs had some guidelines on making materials that work well in VR. Stuff like avoiding tiny specular highlights that alias badly. Anyone know the source of that? Is it in the developer commentary, or published elsewhere?
>>515747598
It's from the main gdc talk from 2018 I think. It's not that important nowadays.
>>515747598
>>515747864
>2018
2015
https://www.gdcvault.com/play/1021771/Advanced-VR
very dated, almost irrelevant
>>515747598
both valve gdc and alyx commentary is extremely valuable
>>515748129
>very dated, almost irrelevant
so true
booting up UE5 editor and turning on lumen and nanite rn
>>515661421 (OP)
Ohayo /vrg/,
Dates for the /vg/ League 24 Soccer/Football Friendlies have been announced, taking place over the last two weekends of March.
Firstly, are there any specific generals you guys want to go up against for friendlies? Pic related are all the teams that were in the previous tournament.
Secondly, since I did say I'm open to changing up the team this year and forcing game reps on to the roster, are there any players or VR game representatives you want to see added to the team for friendlies (and possibly beyond that)?
>>515748129
>very dated, almost irrelevant
Now that I think about it again after rewatching the talk, is what they refer as "stencil mesh" (aka occlusion mesh) still relevant?
OpenXR doesn't mention anything about that at all, nor does it provide a way to get it.
We are doing vkQueueSubmit, so the fragments on the border should be processed still, I don't see a way for them to optimize that in the api backend.
Testing is needed.
>>515750295
Also, one idea I had for the friendlies was to put Leashcuck and Compressionlet as the star strikers, since the eternal wired/wireless argument seems to be stronger than ever this year.
>>515750295
the fuck is /hanny/???
>>515728580
thank you all for coming!
that movie was a load of ku, huh?
see those who can make it next week where we'll see what "1v1 me fgt" truly means
>>515748129
Thanks, that was it. The aliasing thing is definitely still relevant. There are a lot of games and bad vrchat maps with speckles. Which now that I think about it also probably blows up the bitrate for compressionlets. Shame that most of the pixels people see in this thread are still going through ol' unity build-in renderer.
>>515750587
I looked it up, it's apparently in the XR_KHR_visibility_mask extension.
>>515751549
>XR_KHR_visibility_mask
Yeah, this is it. Just worded weirdly again instead of using the common terminology in the description at the very least, so it's hard to search.
Supported both for both VD and Oculus runtimes on pc btw, just checked.
What exactly is AMD GPU's deal in VR? All of the logic in the world suggests it should be a massively good performer in VR, but then I check VR vidya tests and I see shit like pic related. I'd like a 7900xtx because it's dirt cheap for what it is, but for some ridiculous reason it just seems to be failing in VR, against GPUs that would perform same or worse in flat stuff.
>>515752265
vr is niche and amd dont have the engineers to spend time developing their driver to improve vr performance more
>>515752265
Pajeet software. Unironically.
When you overpay for nvidia, you are paying for software.
But they are having a rough launch with blackwell right now too and ada is basically impossible to buy.
Shit's fucked. People shouldn't have bought 4090 on release. I was shilling it in this very thread actually.
>>515752265
I don't remember the technical details. Some part of the way they render frames is really bad for VR. I bought a RX 6800 XT a few years ago: it stuttered every few seconds and had worse average frame times than the GTX 1080 I replaced.
>>515751180
It's like, Rance and the company that makes those games
>>515751549
Also if anyone's curious, I looked up some improvements in both the normal mip filtering techniques and the geometric specular antialiasing, since the talk:
https://yusuketokuyoshi.com/papers/2019/ImprovedGeometricSpecularAA.pdf
https://perso.telecom-paristech.fr/boubek/papers/MIPNet/
Unity even has an implementation of the the geometric AA, but only in HDRP, not built-in (vrchat). I think it's still possible to do in a built-in shader, but I don't understand all the details yet.
>>515754767
> You can load up to 10 content mods at a time now
wtf is with this dev and arbitrary restrictions
>>515755117
let's just say quest was an unironic disaster for pcvr pretty much across all facets of the board.
>>515755117
Probably the prefab menu has 10 slots.
>>515755117
the technology is not there yet
>>515750295
VR game representative for active hosting group here would be fun. The vr mahjong guys has that new cat thing model for example or whatever they want. I wonder if we can coordinate willing groups to send in models they want to represent them
we will be doing town of salem in 9hours (6pmjst)
expect the games to last of atleast an hour
hopefully we can get 15players for a full game
>>515755980
Woooooo
So you’ll go fast on hosting this time so night’s go by fast, yes?
>>515753078
>Chink hardware, pajeet software, american prices.
This was a running joke about Cisco 10 or 15 years ago lmao
>>515756151
yes hopefully so
>>515756163
Good hold music, though.
>>515756418
With AMD, you dont get the american prices atleast lmao
>>515755117
might want to limit bandwidth on cloud servers, so shitters don't download giant weapon packs on the servers all the time
>>515755117
>Adjusted armor buying logic to only charge the player the cost of the helmet when they already have full armor
Holy shit finally.
>>515756694
Mod.io serves all of that, and they never have a problem hosting a gorrillion mods.
>>515756850
The servers hosting the lobbies need to download all the mods every time the game starts. That's a lot of bandwidth if a ton of people are adding 10s of GBs of gun packs on top of maps with large dependencies.
>>515755980
ill try to be there but will prolly be a bit later
>>515757635
Good point. Dedicated servers when? (never)
>>515758108
Bitch, pavlov has dedicated servers where you can put unlimited mods and 50 people limits.
We litterally play on our own dedicated server every time for like 7 years now, have you been under a rock?
>>515758579
I don't play Pavlov.
>>515758885
Maybe you should so I can shank you for being a dumbass
By request, running Mugello with some race cars in Assetto Corsa tomorrow night at 8PM ET (about 24.5 hours from now).
The server is up in practice mode for now, if we get enough people, we'll switch over to qualifying/race mode and try to run a short race.
Car list for the race is in pic related, but we'll mess around with some other cars after the race, so let me know if you have anything specific you want to run for that.
Mods are below and the server is up if you want to test anything.
server: vrg racing
pass: tfwnodriftfu
voice chat (mumble): voice.vrg.party
mods: https://mega.nz/folder/xN4EGDiC#cvLFrD3kTpS_8pU7eNVvPw
DLC: https://mega.nz/folder/hNgHTIrb#utSeSx4mqKjcMYfwiI67sg
>>515759240
Good luck americans!
>>515748129
>very dated, almost irrelevant
There has not been anything better invented and they describe the proper way to do VR graphics there, unlike "modern" TAA/DLSS smearslop
It's the absolute base, any vr game dev should use the knowledge from this presentation.
>>515750295
Kinda wanna go up against /vgt/
>>515750757
Sounds like fun
>>515759631
It's not that deep.
Proper mipmapping (filtering 101 btw) and visibility mask are the only things that are relevant.
Everything else is outdated.
His second talk a year later (about dual gpu) is also a scientific curiosity at best.
>>515760103
Forward rendering, msaa, enviroment maps with correct depth, info about geometry and nirmal maps, highlights and roughness antialiasing etc etc is all relevant. Nothing is outdated, there is nothing better for vr than what they show in that presentation.
>Inb4 he says TAA/DLSs temporal smearing slop is the future of vr
>>515759240
Also, in case anyone gets confused, the mods folder is supposed to be empty for now, it's just there in case I need to throw something else on later.
>>515755117
Questoids are to VR what phoneposters are to the internet
>>515755980
>6pmjst
real timezone doko
>>515761314
>Inb4 he says TAA/DLSs temporal smearing slop is the future of vr
Can you stop trying to put this retarded bullshit into my mouth?
Nobody is talking about temporal garbage/tranny frames.
>there is nothing better for vr than what they show in that presentation.
Wrong. You don't know anything because cutoff of your knowledge is 10 years ago.
Forward/forward+ is not the best for vr. Decoupled is the best, for many reasons.
>>515761936
Nothing you said invalidates the lessons taught by the video.
>>515762719
The talk is not that advanced. I know it's from valve, so it might be hard for certain people, but don't treat it like gospel.
This statement
>there is nothing better for vr than what they show in that presentation.
is objectively wrong.
>>515655767 (Cross-thread)
>>515644112 (Cross-thread)
>>https://vrch.at/a4xm6c6r
pypy video
https://files.catbox.moe/4d0myg.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/6d7f9u.mp4
>>515763597
nice dancing bros. have to admit newer golfy stuff is pretty fun even if he is sissy hypno
>>515765882
how is golfy dance sissy hypno
>>515766057
90% kpop coomer choreo
i think golfy SUCKS
>>515766393
>>515766586
golfy dance makes me wanna shake it
>>515750295
kill xivg general death to trannies
>>515771834
anon....
>>515750295
/uma/, /mjg/, /lcg/, /xivg/, /fgog/
>>515662375
Crusher Joe starting in 10-15 minutes, you can join offSilencenor try the link:
https://vrch.at/hrjad67y
>>515686036
Thanks anon, if you are awake, feel free to drop by
pypy tuesday time:
https://vrch.at/ns7bd33c
or join onLycosella
>>515750295
/psg/ or /2hug/ and call it the MMD Bowl
>>515774540
You could say it's ||The Bowl Roll||
>>515753078
Blows my mind that the 1080ti is still the gold standard.
>>515753078
>People shouldn't have bought
should have*
Just noticed the mistake.
>>515774720
>discord spoilers
sis...
>>515780571
That's VRG for you.
>>515773227
gooood pypyin' pypyers
>out of sale period
reee I don't wanna wait 2am damn gook devil I want it NOW
>>515725453
Shit I need to do that to cam girls and random strippers now.
>>515780571
I am embarassed and ashamed but deleting my post is the weaker move
March 6th, 2025.
Put on a suit, afro, and close the pool one more time. Save them from AIDS and stingrays (who also have AIDs).
>>515784520
buncha cuties
>>515726675
>the bit
>He's convinced that bivalence of truth can't be disputed.
>>515786772
Excellent I missed the first raid.
What time will this be?
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe...
>>515786772
I like your spirit anon but in these days of safety settings, raids don't really work anymore.
>>515787354
A beautiful dance in the sky, far away...
>>515786772
It's been 20 years...
>>515787408
Nta but It can work with an excellent avatar + an impostor bake of the avatar
>>515787965
>in order to raid, you must optimize
I'm loving this event already
>>515784520
pypycat fell off
TURN ON THE TV THEY HIT THE FUCKING SUPER PENTAGON
>>515788045
The host has to provide that though. Raids work when people just gave to copy the avatar prepared by the host
You all should be careful tossing the R word around, jannies don't like it.
>>515787283
For maximum potential, the pool will be closed at 7PM EST Thursday, March 6th, and we'll start in any world with a pool (original one is gone, RIP). If anyone has any suggestions, please let us know.
Once we have successfully gathered and chosen and cloned our avatars of choice, we'll charge through public worlds and raid their pools to save them from AIDS and stingrays.
Make an avatar that is so optimized, no safety setting will be able to get through to the pool.
>>515789172
>7PM EST Thursday, March 6th
You nigger, us west coast wagies are still stuck in the cage then.
>>515789090
shut up you fucking cracker
>>515789432
speak for yourself I'm west coast and I'm off by then desu. I won't go though.
>>515780571
the absolute state of /r/vrg...
>>515761847
Sorry anon i cant play with EU anymore with my new job
>>515755117
I think that is just in Dave lobbies, it reads like servers can still apply however many they want
>>515789432
I must be black because I can't type
10PM EST
>>515786772
Never forgetti
>>515752265
For what it's worth, I got a 7900 XTX a couple weeks ago, safe mode DDU'd Nvidia drivers, installed 23.12.1 (as per gay goblin's recommendation) and have had zero issues running games at 3k per eye/90Hz on a Quest 3, no stutters or anything. Literally my only issue with it is that it's not very power efficient.
>>515752265
Drivers.
>>515755980
were gonna play some other game worlds until we have 15players
i'm just waiting
>>515792000
Nigger detected
>>515799324
you can't just say that!
>>515774720
>>515780571
One of the gatekeeper questions should be how to do code/spoiler blocks on 4chan. How little IQ do you have to have to try using discord markdown in here, that's basically outing yourself as a tourist.
>>515799951
>gatekeeper questions
who the fuck do you still wanna gatekeep?
it failed. All the people who shouldn't have wanted here are already part of the usual group.
The thread is only for shitposting and posturing. Very rarely an event is only announced and planned in the thread. I'd even say that the majority of stuff that is done here is first planned in discord servers and secondly communicated here.
It's over. We might as well take the thread as what it is: a collection of random screenshots of stuff that is or is not loosely related to VR.
>>515799951
Most people just do it accidentally after being used to doing it more in other areas
>>515755980
>>515797661
https://vrch.at/fjsyp6wy
witig room for salem
>>515800332
>Very rarely an event is only announced and planned in the thread. I'd even say that the majority of stuff that is done here is first planned in discord servers and secondly communicated here.
Any examples of this kind of events? Stuff like FBF or vault always gets tons of thread posts on how you can contribute, smaller stuff simply doesn't have any discussion because people just drop vidya lobbies.but I must admit, I'm hosting a thing or two and sometimes I avoid asking stuff in thread - that's because I've experienced lots of obvious targeted shitposting and I just know for a fact that if I'll mention a problem, some schizo will work very hard through the week to pretend the issue is bigger than it is, for no reason other than to make things look bad for everyone. Then again, I'm usually just asking in game instead, so it's not as if there's any secret discord circles as far as my knowledge goes
>>515800891
doesn't work for me
>>515800891
I am gonna run late. Working overtime
>>515799951
I think everyone makes the mistake sometimes when they are tired or posting too quickly. It's more embarrassing to write a reply in the wrong thread, something I've done more times over the years than I care to admit...
>>515793048
that's what im gonna do to you anon
>Salem lobby
>PC is trying to install some fucking windows update that uses 100% of my SSD and occupies my fucking PC so badly that captcha needed 4 minutes to load, task manager is barely responding and I can't do shit
Aiiiieee i just wanna play gaemes
>>515804365
Just a few more I'll be home I swear aahhh
>>515800891
Amiga 1200...
>>515803897
>windows update
the fuck you doin?
>>515801108
>any example
>Stuff like FBF or vault always gets tons of thread posts
Read again what I wrote.
>the majority of stuff that is done here is first planned in discord servers and secondly communicated here
All the planning, map building, decision making is done in discord. Can't blame them, but ignoring that I have never ever seen any planning here on the threads beyond "Hey anon! event is here at XX PM join on XX" is dishonest.
It's just how it is.
it's time for the annual amount of copium
Maaaaaaan.... Nothing fits the Nyasuka vibe.
What did the residant booba-cat use to replace their Nyasuka?
>>515807756
>valve sells hmd at a loss
>no reason to overproduce since it's at a loss
>nvidia has mindbroken gaymers into fomo buying shit at retarded prices
>all deckards sell out permanently and have to be purchased from scalpers for $2600
>lack of headsets in peoples hands causes VR to further recline
>>515808190
pick velle pick velle . be part of the vellegang!
>>515807756
>1200USD
>sold at a loss
Facetracking bros...
>>515808974
>>515808190
woops forgot my image
>>515808190
he uses shinano currently
>>515809123
it wont have face tracking, just eye tracking
>>515807756
its neat theyll be doing x86 to ARM translation for games, on top of the DX to VK translation. Since there is no chance this wont be using the xr2, which is a shame since its so shitty and underpowered.
Its also a shame that the headset will be yet another standalone headset with pancake lenses and a shitty screen.
>>515807756
I know everyone already pointed out how much of a loss the lack of finger tracking is but I can't believe they've also ditched the knuckle straps too
>>515800891
https://vrch.at/je3n78q3
we need more players!
>>515811273
I miss my NEET days when I could join this
>>515809976
I can see why... this might just work...
>>515800891
>>515811273
unfortunaly we dont have enough people for another match
See everyone next week tuesday at the same time
>>515811842
thnks for hosting! I'll be there next week
>>515811785
Body tris only
>Nyasuka
>~16k
>Ohkami Laran
>~19k
>Velle 2.0
>~34k
>Shinano
>~27k
holy fucking shit, are you fucking serious?
What is so important that you can not stay under 20k with your body mesh alone? Am I missing something?
>vert density at boob and feet area
yeah okay, makes sense I guess
>>515811068
>knuckle straps
was more or less one of the first things I got for my quest pro
I just can not play without knuckle straps anymore. That shit is just so comfy.
>>515811842
was very cool
>>515807756
i believe it
but it's retarded and will be another flop, quest is only successful because it makes for a good christmas present for little shits, even if this thing is powerful enough to run HL3 at max settings (medium at best) and they launch it with it, no one will buy
>>515807756
If it's not SteamVR native, it will be a massive loss. Or maybe it will be bought by flat gamers since now they can just make the screen as big as they want?
>>515816537
The Index is not a flop, but alot of promises like Source 2:SDK etc was not upheld. Should have focused on games more.
>>515817214
>Or maybe it will be bought by flat gamers since now they can just make the screen as big as they want?
You can already do that through VD and whatnot. For running games standalone the resolution (= pixel density) would be total dogshit, and if you want portability you'd just get the deck or switch 2 and maybe AR glasses instead of carrying a fucking headset around. There's no point.
>>515817482
To clarify, I obviously don't mean physical pixels, but just like 1080p content on a 40" 4k monitor it won't look good.
Quick and dirty test: I don't hate it... I think...
The face seems somewhat "softer" or "rounder" (for lack of better words) than what I am used from Nyasuka. Don't know if I want that yet. Shinano seems to have way more options when it comes to outfits though.
To anybody using it:
the armature does have several bones with "support" in them. Like
>Lower_arm_support
are those twist bones? That would be really cool!
>>515819491
yeah, those are often twist bones
>>515819491
All modern booths have blendshapes for adjusting the face shape. Usually the jaw/cheek shape will dictate how soft/sharp the face looks.
>>515819491
Keep head and just replace body with shinano for outfit access.
>>515819846
>bodyswap
I am also kind of looking for a (more) modern base that has a somewhat professionally made facial tracking. As much as I like my selfmade one, I see the flaws that I simply can not fix.
And so far none of the people who usually do all the facial tracking for booths messaged me back. So I have given up on that way.
>>515820369
>face tracking
Well, then choices are fewer, F.
Is facetracking worth it?
>>515820607
it seems like one of those features that you dont want to lose after you get it, like FBT.
but it requires so much extra setup and considerations for avatars that its annoying.
it also doesnt help that only 2 headsets come with it and neither are great, qpro is low res and vive focus vision has dogshit fresnels and shitty LCDs
>>515820823
It's really garbage how the feature is eternally stuck on a modified quest 2.
Neurallink is gonna fix it.
Just one USB-C slot in the back of the head and all body tracking and facial tracking is done via thinking.
>>515820456
It takes time, but making the blendshapes with Hai's tool isn't that hard
>>515820456
>>515821219
but Shinano does have face tracking support
>>515821712
he means using his old head and just swapping to Shinano body. He wants to use one of the face tracking prefabs instead of his own setup
>>515821906
ohhhh
sorry, brain still not fully functional
>>515807756
That pricetag is gonna kill them
>>515822174
lmao, retards are still buying index'es for 1k, 8 years after the release.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4mimPtLPrg
Did they announce eye tracking for this headset before?
Its so retarded the meganex doesnt have eye tracking.
>>515822174
>kill them
>make 8.5 BILLION $ from skin gambling per year
>take another 2 billion from transaction fees inside the steam system
Sorry but Valve is putting items like the steam deck and Index on the market not because they think its the future of gaming, its so all the gambling websites can cash out of the their steam wallets and sell them "used" on the 2nd hand market.
>>515822585
>its so all the gambling websites can cash out of the their steam wallets and sell them "used" on the 2nd hand market.
Didn't they require a manual steam-support review to spend wallet money on index?
Did they change it with deck? Speaking of, deck is a much better money laundering device.
Has anyone tried out the VR mod for Single Player Tarkov?
I can't imagine anything but a two PC setup to actually run it.
>>515822581
Is there any other company that sells eyetracking solution except for Tobii?
>>515750295
Will booth of the month get updated to Milltina?
>>515823526
looks like AVP, Varjo and Quest Pro dont use Tobii
Pico 3 Neo Pro Eye used tobii but i cant find much about Pico 4 Pro using them.
So doesnt really seem like it, its either make it yourself or use Tobii
>>515819846
nice negative biceps, bottom
>>515819846
oh god... this is so sad...
>>515824168
Those are use their in-house solution (even Pico 4) but at least Varjo is still using some Tobii software. Pimax is also using custom solution with Tobii software. There's pretty high chance that it's some reference design by Goertek like most standalone shit.
>>515752265
works on my machine with the bigscreen beyond
>>515799951
>discord markdown
its just markdown
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markdown
>>515827293
Is it visible in Unity with shaders etc? Alot of Booths have really bad body/head matching so nobody really cares about it anymore.
>>515820823
>but it requires so much extra setup and considerations for avatars that its annoying.
I have multiple fortms of facetracking availab le and basically never use it because of this
vrchat went the gay as fuck route and if you want to set it up with booths its a fucking hodgepodge of shittily made patchers and addons for existing unoptimized booths only
VRC PLEASE JUST LET ME PICK AND ASSIGN FROM A DROPDOWN TO SET THE VALUES TO ACTIVATE CERTAIN SHAPES LIKE IN NEOS/RESONITE, CVR, AND LAVENDER AAAA
>>515828404
it would be, because there are big ass holes on the side.
>Alot of Booths have really bad body/head matching
oh wow really? that would be one of the first things I'd bring up nowadays. It's not like booth models get cheaper or something.
>oh wow you're using [insert base body name here] such a good choice I love it its so cute
>me who has no idea and just picked it from a random avatar world
>>515828801
>LAVENDER
...wait a second
>>515827293
people learned what the data transfer tool does in blender and now they feel like the dont have to connect stuff anymore because it plus toon shading makes it impossible to see without wireframe or in a 3d program like blender
>>515822581
>split DP cable
uh...
>>515829401
this isn't a base btw, this is me trying to do a bodyswap and failing because it is way, waaaay out of my comfort zone
>>515829570
oh i misunderstood you messege, carry on anon. you'll get there eventually
>>515829505
whats the issue with this? seems fine for the reason they claimed
>>515829827
strap replacements from third parties will be less probable, mods for other hmd straps will require some exctra routing considerations depending on how these cables are placed coming out of the hmd
more cable connectors could mean more points of potential failure
>>515829401
Honestly I've done half a dozen body swaps and never gone to the effort of connecting the mesh because it's literally invisible 99% of the time with solid color matching. I don't do any datatransfers generally on the vast majority of body swaps it's just slapping the head on the body after manually positioning it. On a handful of bases there have been small issues with the neck not bending how I'd like but that's usually fixed with neck length shapekeys or by adjusting the height of the head relative to the neck or by moving some bones around a bit. These days the color matching and unity setup would generally take much longer than the blender portion ever would, I'm surprised nobody has done a tutorial on it considering it really only takes a few minutes of not complicated work.
Anyone here played Ghost of Tabor AND Contractor's Showdown's Exfilzone before? I've only played the latter since I heard it was just better in everyway
>>515830597
I have played both, as have many others.
>>515830890
Is it worth getting into Tabor at all, I saw it got a recent update. Not sure if it was anything worthwhile..
>>515830586
>I'm surprised nobody has done a tutorial
I'm the anon wanting to do the body/headwap and I am surprised about this too.
Would you walk me through a normal bodyswap? I've read about people just filling the "head hole" or selecting the vertices and push them further in to prevent visible holes. I wonder how to deal with either the new faces that have been generated, or with how to color match that portion of the neck properly.
I think connecting the mesh really only works if I somehow force neck and/or head to have the same amount of vertices, which I guess could also fuck with the UV or with potential blendshapes?
>>515831134
Probably not. The devs are extremely incompetent. I don't think they've ever had an update that doesn't completely break some major aspect of the game and need another three patches to fix it.
>>515831704
Yeah! I've heard a buncha criticisms towards the devs, I thought they were just exaggerated lawl. Thanks!!
>>515753078
you can still get a 4090
buy them at a discount from the tards buying the 5090s
>>515786772
the pool WILL be closed
>>515832705
>you can still get a 4090
Go actually check the prices.
>>515827293
>>515831436
I see a Nyasuka user trying to do a body swap and it's like I see myself from 3 years ago. Back then I did stitch the verts and I think the results were ok but I can't tell you if it's worth the effort, honestly, especially since the base of her neck has a non-standard shape. I have since decided to just use the hair and recreate the general look instead of doing swaps. Shinano especially can be customised a lot with just provided Blendshapes, I would fiddle with them first. If you want less soft look try those near the bottom of the list "face otona" or something like that gives her a bit more "adult" look.
sloppa tonight?
>>515833367
see the second half of the post
second hand or bust, you are correct in that buying new is a complete and total write off because novideo are jews of the highest caliber
>>515831436
This will be a bit shorthand but basically in blender:
1.) Import both fbx
2.) Delete all the mesh that won't be used from both
3.) Keep all the bones from head and lower (including hair/eye bones and all that) for the head (I assume there is a better way but I just delete that shit in edit mode personally)
4.) Keep all bones except the head and lower for the body
5.) Move the head into position on the body then do object > apply > all transforms
6.) Ctrl + j the armatures together and put the head and related bones under where they should be by going into edit mode again and Ctrl + p selecting the newly moved head onto the new body neck
7.) Go into the head/hair meshes make sure you select the new body in the armature modifier
8.) Move some shit around and make sure everything works. Sometimes if the neck is weighted weirdly you'll have issues with it bending strangely so test that, if you have issues you can just go back to the step where you're adjusting the head fit and try a few different orientations. Very rarely will you need to ever care about the hole in the head/neck. I will keep another model for ref in blender just to compare usually.
9.) Once you've got everything fine in blender export and import to unity. Usually for new models I will create an extra folder so I can use a duplicate of my fx controllers/params/all that kind of stuff without fucking with my other models. Can just ctrl + d and copy them to another folder. Use the stuff from the head version of the model as that's where the facial expressions are that you care about. You can pumpkin tools over the descriptor and all that fun stuff.
10.) Set the viewball because it is now fucked and make sure you detach the pipleline ID in the descriptor if you had previously uploaded whatever you copied off.
11.) You are largely done all that's left is to color match with one of the guides around and clean up params/menus/shader as desired.
Blender + unity shouldn't take more than an hour.
>>515835771
go actually check the prices, retard
even used is 2.3k+
>>515835871
I don't live near your shithole so I don't know your prices :^)
>>515836296
show me normal prices in *any* shithole, you fucking retard
it's a global issue
sub 2k listings for 4090 are scams
2.3k used, 2.9k new.
those are the current prices for actually working cards
>>515827293
A way to do it which will take a while: create a duplicate of the head, join the meshes, merge nearest vertices manually from the neck to the head. If the topology doesn't match up use the knife tool to create more edges/vertices to merge to the duplicated face, separate by material so they're no longer joined but the vertices are in the same place, delete the duplicate. The end vertices of the neck now match up. Then you just need to make the texture's color between the two make sense.
>>515836393
should have bought last year :^)
>>515835821
I forgot to mention it but you may need to do some actual weight painting or sculpting if the hair specifically is designed to conform to the neck. My neck is a good example of this as it is partially weighted to the neck. Sometimes it looks fine sometimes I need to go in and weight paint it a bit. This is pretty hair/base specific though kokoa has a fat ass head. Any neck seam will generally disappear almost entirely if not completely once your colors/shaders are correclty matched which I find to be the easiest part however I usually ask S to do it for me because I am lazy and they do it much faster than me.
>>515837276
I did. Back in early 2023.
>>515832432
This is the level of broken the game can be.
>>515837721
call ghostbusters
>>515837721
what the fuck is this
did you fuckin knobhead install a fuckin grip on the fuckin sightrail
>>515837920
virgin acog vs chad grip
>>515837374
This seam I'd consider to be imperfect and it's still more or less completely invisible under nearly all lighting circumstances. You can stitch if you're feeling autistic but it is almost completely for fun and not for aesthetic. If you'll see it at all it's usually going to be on real time lighting maps and that's niche fuckery edge case so I don't worry about it though I'm sure someone better at blender/unity would know what the issue is and how to fix it (and even then it's really not that noticeable to the average person unless they're looking directly at it).
>>515837721
This is actually so fucking funny LOL. From you trying to grab a hold of it, to it just outright leaving you
>>515837920
Thatgot stuck on there by mistake and wouldn't come off
>>515838098
looks pretty good what a perfect neck for nuzzling
>>515837920
>when you're out of backpack slots but still want to carry more loot
>>515839965
ah yes the tarkov approach
>oh gee billy how come you have 3 range fingers and two sights on your AK-74u
>>515840326
>not bringing quad tac lights so you could have a portable sun in the tunnels
>>515834978
Man... I was so happy with Nyasuka, but the more I use it the more it irks me. Especially the lack of "third party support" for everything. All outfits I would want to consider need reshaping and refitting. No exception.
It doesn't help that I tried to contact the creator 3 times and it never worked out for me. This never happened with verious outfit creators or with the Hakka/Sue creator.
So... maybe it's finally time to say good bye to Nyasuka.
>>515835821
>>515837020
>>515837374
>>515838098
Thanks for the insight! I guess if I read this 2-3 years ago, I most likely would have instantly jumped on blender to try it out, but man I've gotten so lazy. Thank you for more brain fodder though!
>>515840417
If all fails and you run out of ammo, this works as a brick.
>>515835712
Iron Rebellion perhaps.
>>515840435
She's an old model and the author who made her has since released I think 3 or more newer ones so I don't think it's surprising the support has basically stopped. She'll live on in my heart (and hair, probably) though.
>>515840956
>offset red dot
>piggybacked red dot
>another offset red dot
>on a hpvo for an mp5
>not one or two IRs but three lasers
>no stock
>>515841170
The support request I was talking about was about Ohkami Lyuca (back when it was released and I bought it) and for Ohkami Laran (when it was released last year and I bought it).
:')
I want more arcade shooter and less of this realism slop
I want more realism shooter and less of this arcade slop
>>515832432
For last two months their patchnotes were mix of "fixed X causing crash" or "fixed game not launching on Y" or "fixed Z causing collision issues".
Their latest announcement is that bag collision bug (that same bug here >>515837721 that keeps returning every few patches) will be fixed in a week or two.
They're working on two other, even more broken VR games at the same time and allocate devs to the one that has most streamers at the time. Do the maths.
I think realism and arcade both have their appeal.
>>515842120
So Tabo-ver..
>>515750295
/xivg/ (Final Fantasy 14 General) has challenged /vrg/ to a rematch since people from their general have expressed interest in facing us again and the sentiment seems to be shared here.
Thus, the "Grown Ass Fucking Men Bowl" has been scheduled for March 21st, 19:00 UTC/3:00pm EST (should be converted correctly keeping in mind the upcoming daylight savings change happening in a week... I think)
There are still two other teams we can go against for friendlies for a total of three matches. So far it looks like the other suggestions have been /vgt/, /uma/, /mjg/, /lcg/, /fgog/, /psg/, & /2hug/.
Any other teams before I start asking some of those generals' managers?
Maybe we can also add on a VRFps or a Pavlov player to the team? But I would need suggestions on a good player name and model.
>>515823568
Poor Shinano only saw a single tournament. But yeah we can probably switch her out for Milltina since she's more actual FOTM right now.
>>515661421 (OP)
LOOK MA IM IN THE OP IMAGE
>>515843517
The dave deerass Jared
starting pypy noooow!
join here:
https://vrch.at/26ejra6a
>>515843517
>Grown Ass Fucking Men Bowl
>>515843517
Excellent lets fucking gooooooooooooooooo
>>515811068
>but I can't believe they've also ditched the knuckle straps too
but everyone said the straps are included and just optional if you attach them or not? is this not the case?
>>515807756
announcement in 2mw
>>515843918
Thought I got skibidi ohio rizzler zoomerspeaked at for a second with that sentence.
After looking it up, i'm not sure if a taxidermed deer ass would be the best model representative for pavlov, and I'm not even sure what the player name on something like that could be.
A totally undeserving kill I got in Exfil..
>>515846906
Pretty sure the planks in the window can be wallbanged anyway.
>>515759240
Noice.
Todd game enjoyers, is the MageVR mod dead? Seems like FUS doesn't have it included, and the mod itself hasn't been updated in 5 years. I don't think I care about the spell gesture system that much, but being able to loot containers/bodies without a pause menu seems really nice. It really makes me miss exfil zone's backpack, even as jank as it is sometimes.
>>515831134
No.
Last minute check, what sloppa do anons feel like eating tonight. Menu is
Iron Rebellion
Orion Drift
Real VR Fishing
Pick your poison within next 30 minutes.
>>515848452
Thrill of the Fight 2
>>515762934
oh yea?
What's better than forward modelling with MSAA and shader techniques described in that video for good looking, clear and sharp VR gameplay?
>>515848452
Just started making food so I probably won't make it.
>Orion Drift
Might be better to have more advanced notice on this so we can get a bigger group together.
>>515848616
Read all the posts, monkey.
>>515848509
Did they actually do anything with the game since release or is it still confined to shoebox sized playspace and allowing literal spin2win?
>>515848881
>>515831134
NO
Play Exfillzone, it's Tabor if it was made by competent devs and was a good game.
>>515845025
Sure looks like fun, can't wait to join in next week.
>>515843517
Mega, can host for EU live if you want. /mjg/ could be a shout as there have been some crossover with our mahjong players.
>>515849302
Sounds good, thanks for offering to host.
>>515848881
I did, you haven't proposed anything better than that
>>515849504
I can't help dumdums.
Go back to the dumdum factory.
>>515849302
aren't you supposed to be busy killing russians or something?
KUU!
>>515849608
the only thing you said which was remotely on topic "Decoupled ", whatever that means. I don't think that's a therm anyone uses for rendering pipeline, so explain yourself or perish.
>>515849827
I can't believe Dyadya vova looks like this now.
But where is your tzak?
>>515848843
We can probably try on Saturday. Preliminary Orion Drift chimp out on Saturday, 19:00 GMT.
>>515848991
Shoebox? It constrains to the smallest roomscale playspace (there's a required amount of space for roomscale) and you can determine the minimum playspace you want to play against. If you're going against control stick movement vs control stick movement you can use all of the virtual arena.
Recent updates have improved the punch/damage system but it is still firmly in early access
>>515849827
>>515848452
I vote fish because brain is full of mush
>>515849939
Now you are asking the correct question, monkey. Should have started with that. Because that's what you should do when you're a retarded gorilla nigger who is unable to comprehend something, nor search for it properly without requiring spoonfeeding.
And now I'm not really in the mood to spoonfeed.
So search harder for it, read the papers, watch the videos. After you do at least the minimum amount of work, I will finish the spoonfeed.
See you later.
>>515850742
fuck off useless shmuck.
>>515850884
>F-fuck off! Spoonfeed me!
>>515850403
OK, fish it is. Join EU lobby
Gone fishing
pass 1488
>>515851096
you holier than though attitude and unwillingness to say anything useful is just annoying. If you want to share some info then do it. If you just want to gloat fuck off.
>>515847116
Can trees be wallbanged? They're like a meter thick so I figured they wouldn't be but I can't tell if it was latency that got me killed or if they can just shoot straight through them.
>>515851406
I'm not against teaching, but I limited patience for retards.
You've spent all your "retard tolerance" credits by posting bullshit instead of asking the correct questions.
Now you will have to do at least a little bit of work yourself.
alright goys, somebody post a good walkthrough for quest 3 pirating cause im about to buy the 512 gb version soon....
>>515851834
standalone slop isnt even worth pirating
>>515851834
this >>515851894
>>515851768
it's you who is a retard who baselessly criticizes one of the most useful vr dev tech presentations without providing any info in his own defence. It's you who is being tolerated.
>>515849939
NTA but I think "decoupled" refers to what's also called "Texture space shading" in https://developer.nvidia.com/blog/texture-space-shading/ or "object space shading" in https://www.oxidegames.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Generalized-Decoupled-and-Object-Space-Shading-System.pdf . Essentially, instead of doing all the shading for each visible screenspace pixel (forward and deferred), you do some of the shading in unique texel space and then sample those textures back in screenspace for the final render. Rationale for VR being you can reuse a lot of the view-independent-but-expensive shading calculations (GI/AO, shadows) between each eye. It's sort of like the how to enlighten realtimeGI in unity uses a low resolution lightmap texture that's updated by the CPU slowly. Object-space is subtly different, but same sort of advantage for stereo rendering.
Seems cool, though I'm not finding much evidence of anyone using it for VR games outside of research.
>>515852179
Whatever you say, monkey.
>>515851834
vrpirates.wiki
>>515845025
my vrfu looks so cute
>>515852265
that's not much better though, it's basically what baking does. It won't help with jaggies or clarity, but might just a tiny bit help to make stuff stereocorrect.
It's still basically forward...
As usually terry kun is all high and might about nothing
>try and have a discussion
>instead of talking about something just tell people to fuck off
why even post
>>515853009
don't loose hope
try again
>>515852265
>Seems cool, though I'm not finding much evidence of anyone using it for VR games outside of research.
Because it's very advanced and most game devs are retards who use unity.
Also not that useful for flatshit, ara, the game made by the author of the paper doesn't run that well.
So not many try.
The advantage is not only in obvious performance gains, you shade only once instead of twice for each view, but you can also reuse the shading data from previous frames which is very valuable for high fps vr, not so much for flatshit. Also the quality of shading is better, because there is no eye disparity in shading, so there are fewer (lack of?) stereo artifacts.
>>515852737
>it's basically what baking does
Baking assumes a completely static scene, monkey.
>It won't help with jaggies or clarity
Wrong. Performance saved from not running the expensive fragment shaders twice can be spend on the vertex shader instead, which will "help with the jaggies".
not this shit again
Are Blood Trail and Gun Club VR any good?
With all the talk about Shinano, do we have a archive of shinano outfits?
>>515853313
>Baking assumes a completely static scene, monkey.
oh, no, i rebake ever frame using the same shaders as usual but in texture space, potentially oversampling everything way too much, what an advanced concept.
Terry's a bitch
>>515853781
>potentially oversampling everything way too much
Yeah, we went from "oversampling for sure for two 3k^2 views" to "oversampling potentially for some triangles".
Of course it's worthless.
as usual schizo terry kun... Doesn’t look into practicalities, most likely is wrong, but will act high and mighty.
If you are so concerned about good of VR, why don't you implement a few texture space PBR shaders, including reuse of previous frame results and just publish them for everyone to use huh in HLSL, Unity and Unreal formats? That kind of shader could do the calculations in texture space, and then render them into albedo texture of the object so that final render just uses that texture?
Oh wait it will be extremely oversampling every object or undersampling them, or you'll have to dynamically change sizes of render targets depending on object size in the world, and will require massive amount of VRAM to run all fragment shaders per texture space of visible objects instead of the screen space.
2 days remaining to participate in WRC Latvia championship race!
https://racenet.com/ea_sports_wrc/clubs/19481
>>515773227
>>515784520
>>https://vrch.at/ns7bd33c
na pypy video
https://files.catbox.moe/ull7tq.mp4
>>515854316
>why don't you implement a few texture space PBR shaders, including reuse of previous frame results and just publish them for everyone to use huh in HLSL, Unity and Unreal formats?
It's a lot more involved. It's not an easy task, you need to build your whole engine around that.
>you'll have to dynamically change sizes of render targets depending on object size in the world
It's 2025, it's a real problem for like what, 5 years?
>will require massive amount of VRAM to run all fragment shaders per texture space of visible objects instead of the screen space
Or you just do a cheap "depth-like" prepass and only render what's actually visible.
Of course the naive approach of shading literally everything doesn't work. You actually have to think.
You are not putting any thought in that. You are just upset because I was "mean" to you.
>>515854889
>it's a real problem
not a real problem*
>>515854889
>all this thought about VR
>doesn't play VR
Terry the fairy, biggest fag in /vrg/
>>515853437
They're just sandboxes.
>>515852498
basado
>>515855110
You're acting like a woman. Stop being so emotional.
>>515855238
>stating the truth is acting like a woman
cmon now
>>515854889
>you need to build your whole engine around that.
wrong
>You are not putting any thought in that. You are just upset because I was "mean" to you.
you are being defensive and spout trivialities. Of course a great programmer like you will have nothing to show for, and that’s why you are an object of ridicule, all talk, but act as of you achieved anything. I bet you couldn’t even make a well running vr minigame or vrchat world
>>515855582
always shit on terry the jeet streetshitter
>>515855582
>I bet you couldn’t even make a well running vr minigame
Okay, what are we betting?
>>515851345
Sad, I missed the fishan.
>>515855730
>avoidance talk with delusions of grandeur
>>515855936
What avoidance? You want to make a bet, let's make a bet.
please make the bet, I want new games
>>515856030
>vr enthusiast
>only trid vr in co pressed video form
>has the cheapest shittiest hmd
>claims to know best
>has delusions of grandeur
>hasnt shown anything of substance
>talks back
i bet your ass
Anyone here play VAIL? That game is so goated
>>515856440
Anything else other than ad hominem attacks?
>>515856616
anything of substance to show? you know, most people in this thread d create vr content, in form of avatrs of worlds. you are afraid to show yours, and never published source code to your tool, which is rubbish anyway.
>>515856616
Graphs are shit, unusable autism is still unusable. try to do something productive terry
>>515845025N
>>515856616
>starts by an hominem and calling everyone monkeys
>is surprised to get ad hominemned back
>>515856808
So no bet? I thought you wanted it, too bad.
>>515856810
Physics engines take a lot of work, what can I do.
It takes time.
>>515856952
Calling someone a monkey is justified when they can't read.
>>515857232
only in your deluded mind throwing a random buzzword and calling people monkeys for ignoring it is justified. this is why you are an object of ridicule.If you had any knowledge o share to things to show, youd have done it. BUt right now you are just a delusional clown
>>515856928
Can confirm
>>515856928
it'sy pypover
>>515856928
Oh nyo, they found out
>>515851345
Found it
You were right it's ww1
>>515858346
Called it.
>>515857878
But they weren't random buzzwords. The other anon managed to find everything, it's just you who had problems.
I even googled "decoupled rendering" myself back then and the relevant paper was on the front page.
If you want to have a proper discussion, you have to be willing to put an equal amount of effort in. If you expect to get things an easy way, you shouldn't expect to be treated as equal.
>>515858571
I was going to make a reply but you could have just googled it
I don't think it's him. Terry never insulted anyone
>>515858346
>>515858527
>memorial
>towards WW2 soldiers
>in germany
lol
lmao
>>515859249
Really?
>>515858571
This constant talking down on anons doesnt help your case of being a complete nutjob
>>515859364
>WW2
today I learned that WW2 was during 1911-1919
>>515858571
>you have to be willing to put an equal amount of effort in. I
one side provided a helpful, informative valve gdc talk. you dismissed it without giving any sensible reason, flashed a rarely used buzzword, for technology which doesnt invalidate anything valve presented. ypu cant even hold yourself up to your standard.
this constant information withholding and holier than though attitude have bitten you in th ass multiple times, especially on topics you were wrong about. You are a useless shmuk. Talk sense or fuck off
>>515859364
#notallnazis
I want to make a VR game but I don't think I can justify the cost of the quark–gluon plasma hadronization step of forming elemental silicon to be honest.
>>515860220
>flashed a rarely used buzzword,
Just because you are unfamiliar with it, doesn't make it a buzzword.
>especially on topics you were wrong about
Examples?
>one side provided a helpful, informative valve gdc talk
I posted that link btw. Just so you know.
>>515860487
>arguing in bad faith
Reminder
https://streamable.com/kq2d4e
>>515866505
The one place is real
amd encoders are bad for wireless streaming right?
>>515856928
just saw the video, insane there was an insider all this time just for this
still very stupid video, must be one of the haters from VRD academy
>>515867439
you don't get the fancy nvidea streaming codecs. and the amd ones break sometimes. I think all the VR that work with amd actually work. But forsome reason, twitch links in vrc break because of amd
t. 6700xt
>>515869289
i'm seeing used 7900 xtx for 650 eurobucks in my areas but i don't know if it's gonna work well with the quest...
all vr reviewers are on fucking 4090 it's crazy
PLAY THE MOUSE GAMES
NOOOOOOOOW
>>515869858
Moss*
>>515854418
>2 days remaining
Thought I had more time
>>515807613
As an event maker, planning and detailing how your event is supposed to go on the thread publicly makes people get tired of it before the event even occurs.
So you want to actually only release the info on collaborators within a DM group first to assemble and create it. We announce the info on the thread and how they can contribute but never the actual final thing.
The community is the thread. the DM group is for like the 6 anons from the thread who said they'd be willing to contribute and create it together with.
Unless you can help us figure out how to not make people tired of the event before the event actually gets run, then I am afraid your fear of using any private discussion platform will sadly be still used.
I propose instead to differentiate between
discords that are used for planning and hosting for the thread communitythese are dead and closed outside of the planning phase and is also
vs
discords that are created to replace the thread's function as the community town square where everyone is and visits to interact with everyone in the communitythis takes away from the thread and even creates a disincentive to look at the thread
>>515867439
They're worse than the Nvidia equivalents, especially for H264, although how much of a difference there is depends on the card. HEVC and AV1 (for cards that support them) are a bit closer in performance, but those aren't ideal in situations where you're more concerned about latency.
i am using rift s and only play vrchat. Can someone put into words how much am i missing out on with not having something more modern like quest 3 or pico 4? Was planning on getting pico 4 ultra because it has the easy and cheap FBT, but now i also feel like maybe i should wait for something else to come out
>>515872804
Incredible how many words are needed to say "Yeah we do need discord".
Also shut up Yuki.
>>515875459
Details are important. It's always sad to see people either be totally for or totally against a tool.
It's the same with guns.
It's how it is used that makes all the difference.
>>515875620
Yet you seem to be the one with fixed definitions on how someone is /vrg/ or not by how often they use the thread withing 12 month.
Man, it's almost like you have your head up your own arse. Wao.
>>515875819
I have my own opinions on the matter yes. Everyone has opinions on a lot of matters.
You can decide if you agree with it or not but that is my sincere opinion on it.
How can you be /vrg/ if you don't even view the /vrg/ thread within the last 6 months? This is already a very lax view.
If you have used /vrg/ before but stopped coming here, you simply become a /vrg/ alumni. That's it. That's my opinion (pic related)
You can refresh your vrgness by using the thread again ez
chatgpt is doing overtime today
>>515876282
It seems if I don't post for 5.85 month, my vrgness will go up again.
Your graph is flawed, therefore your opinion is invalid.
How you can openly voice opinions like that I do not know. You can not even make a graph to communicate those simple ideas. I would be embarrassed if I was you.
NA anime tonight at 10 pm est in vrchat
https://rentry.org/i3t5ozt8
K-on s2 - 14
K-on s2 - 15
Medalist - 08
House - 08
Will post instance link when it is up. You can wait until 11 to join for just the seasonals.
>>515876282
Graph is a generous definition to be desu. /vrg/ is the thread. That's the literal definition of it. If you don't visit it enough to be generally up to date with it then you are visiting
>>515876282
f5 or die
>>515876282
I either use threads daily or not at all. I don't know how someone can use it once every 3 months and still be considered a thread user in any meaningful sense.
>>515875442
You'll get a better displays/lenses and the ability to run wireless with either of those.
Both have hand tracking, but in my experience, it's just a gimmick you'll rarely ever use in game.
Pico 4 Pro has face/eye tracking, so that might be the way to go for if you mainly care about VRC.
If any of that seems worth it to you, I don't see a problem with getting something now.
>>515876716
reeeee anonnnnn it was made in mspaint. we talked about this before
>>515877094
>what did anon change huh?
>minutes since last thread use
lmao. Nigga be thirsting after the thread. I do have it always on during office hrs, at home and even while driving on my phone. We may have a thread addiction here
>>515878243
Seems like that argument wasn't important enough, otherwise you'd have fixed it.
I'm right, you are wrong.
Stop your assumption and stop setting things in writing for all.
This is your last warning.
>>515878435
fineeeee here fixed
>>515878775
Glad you fixed it and kept the feedback from the thread intact.
the yuki graph
>>515878925
>even after 6 month your vrg-ness never reaches 0
Embarrassing.
>>515879206
reeee here's v1.2
>>515879480
>the months are not distributed equally
Yuki... I can only explain this basic shit to you. I can not understand it for you.
>>515879480
Months? More like days. Normies.
>>515878413made it as a half-joke, but thinking about it, I do check through it pretty much all the time. Would unironically stay 100% vrg in every active moment of my life if we'd consider hours instead of minutes. Maybe it's less of addiction, and more of idle behavior, you gotta refresh something all the time in your life, and I can't think of anything better to refresh than your fellow VRbros
>>515881136
you refresh? I just got the tab on the most left side of my browser and if there's a new reply I check it out
>>515881356
Yea, that's what I mean. Of course there's no need for replacement f5 caps in 2025, it's more of figurative refresh
>>515879813
Fuck (You) anon. I took that as a challenge
Pic related should solve all your issues now
>>515881831
>resorting to jupyter notebook
>>515881831
change months to days and it would actually be somewhat accurate
>>515881831
>blue line start is not on the line that indicates 100%
>that means you start above 100%
>blue line end is always above 0%
>apparently you can never not be vrg once you posted
You know... somewhere out there is a tree whose single purpose on earth is to replace the oxygen you waste.
Go find it and apologize.
Just checking in to not be a rando, keep up the good work, or drama, I don't read this shit, see you in July and please post instance links and event announcements in discord to!
>>515882465
>>515882593
If you're not 100% /vrg/ don't even talk to me
Pavlov Shack is happening. Plenty people playing TTT, Team Deathmatch, customs like extraction games, and Push. I hardly ever see more than a couple SnD lobbies. Questies really enjoy, "Resurgence" and TTT.
>>515882993
Maybe Pavlov shack will re ignite actual vr games? Trashnigs in vrlg are still playing kiddie shit like Minrcraft, fortnite, Monster Hunter and such, maybe hosting what the squakers are playing will bring in the players?
>>515882993
I find enough SND lobbies during EU hours and it's mostly NA tourists. Not as much as on PC but I'll take what I can.
>>515882593
you will be mere 10% vrg if you'll do that, please post again in april for optimal vrg performance
>>515856462
Pretty fucking good game.
>>515883242
Right now that is VAIL, but only because the Free-To-Play zone is enough fun until mom says game time is over. I'm not quite sure how much more time the, "free to play" arena matchmaking is available, but plenty squeakers every time I queue that matchmaking playlist.
>>515759240
Assetto Corsa starting now, server details are in the previous post if you're interested.
>>515875442
If your graphics card can handle it, moving from a Rift S to either one of this is like moving from 480p monitor to a 1080p
>>515889707
>tfw kunos decides not to connect now of all times
might be a few minutes
>>515662447
>pic related
a-anon, you're scaring me...
>>515848452
>Orion Drift
Sounds fun!
>questslop
Zuckcucks can you port the games that aren't mobileslop to pc? Thanks.
I had ChatGPT write me this desaturation shader because im too lazy to do it myself. I tried this several times in the past but it never worked. The prompt in the end was to add "do this but for vrchat" and it worked. Though i'll probably tune down the white flashing a bit.
>>515899157
>how much you want your players to suffer and hate you?
>yes.
>>515882593
You really only need to stick your head in here every 6 months. It’s the same 5 conventions on repeat
Furries vs trannies
ERPer vs pure fags
Cablecucks vs wififags
Latest drama surrounding recent event
[insert name] did [thing] at irl meet
>>515901162
*conversations. Well there’s two posts in 6 months see you in 12 I guess.
>>515899157
cool stuff
>>515876729
https://vrch.at/yfpuut50
anmie
>actually starts on time for once
nothimg personnel
>>515901162
>>515901347
If you are not participating in austic schizo arguments, you are not /vrg/. Simple as.
>>515901162
>Furries vs trannies
Furries can die.
>ERP vs purity fags
Don't really care.
>Cable-cucks vs wifi-fags
Cable is more consistent?
>>515901690
>>515901162
if you're so proud of not wanting to have anything to do with the thread, why don't you go back and stay there? What's here for you
>>515901928
What do you mean, there is literally 0 autistic arguments here without my participation.
>>515759240
>>515889707
Small race, but it worked out. Thanks for coming.Still not sure who actually requested it though.
>>515902073
It was good fun indeed
>remember kids, keep your eyes on the road, not on your rearview
>>515901861
>>Furries vs trannies
>Furries can die.
>not both
>>515899157
in other news i got the tourniquet to sync across the network.
>>515900058(I like the way this sucks!)
>>515903262
>>515900058
>>515902406
>not both
I mean I've heard lots of shit about trannies, but frankly most of the ones I've meet seem like they're not too bad.
Furries on the other hand, have in my experience always been terrible.
>>515903974
>I mean I've heard lots of shit about trannies, but frankly most of the ones I've meet seem like they're not too bad.
>>515903974
Trannies amongst memers will revert to their old training of being an incel shitposter but the second the scale tips and there's enough trannies in power the new training kicks in
Sleeper cell agents
>>515904817
the same is true of furries but they don't self-terminate at a rate of 41%
>>515899157
>do this but for vrchat
lmao. I love how it works
>>515905184
anon you can't have it both ways, either furries are annoying because they are constantly shoving their fetish in your face and refuse to change, or they are sleeper agents who will wait until they are in power to take over
All I know is trannies try to invade both and i dont like em
>>515905553
honestly this is day #7000 of furry whataboutism
i'm not going to discuss this with you and i'm going to continue kicking furries, please go away
From now on, screenshot every furry and their name. I will make a list for everyone to know who to kick on sight.
>>515908120
*kiss on sight
>>515907860
To be clear this started about killing both and you deflecting that off trannies onto furries
Walk away anon, walk away.
vr games?
>trannies are getting attacked
>suddenly anon wants to talk about vr games
I think we should attack trannies constantly, maybe the thread will on topic.
>>515901162
We have weekly events and meets so to know when they occur and if new impromptu one pops up imo every day checking the thread is the optimal /vrg/ performance.
If you i ky care about the bigger events then once every two weeks should be enough for you to know if a bigger event is up and coming
>>515876282
someone add this to the flowchart, I can't keep up with all the data
>>515882760
For all the bitching in this thread, I've never, ever seen anyone call someone else in an instance out for not reading the thread more than just saying "you should read it more haha, anyway CHEERS"
>>515914532
That’s the way to do it really. In-game I just encourage people to read our thread more. And I even shill our thread to other channers that don’t know our thread yet.
The don’t talk to me but here in the thread just a meme. Let’s continue having fun times in virtual reality /vrg/
>>515914532
Any anon who would actually yell at people for not reading the thread would be socially ostracized and they know it, so nobody does it. The randos won.
>>515914532
>>515914765
>>515914997
a person can be a 4channer without browsing the thread
being a /vg/ regular does not make you cool, it makes you lame
>>515914997
>The randos won.
There's nothing to lose imo
As long as we sre here on the thread chatting and our fellow anons post from time to time not just words but also their nice avatars and images, everyone will be happy, both anons in the meets and randos outside the meets.
>>515915142
>a person can be a 4channer without browsing the thread
>being a /vg/ regular does not make you cool, it makes you lame
And then there's this motherfucker who wants to destroy our home. News flash anon, we're not aiming for any "coolness' or "basedness" you so try to seek validation of.
I personally just want anons I can call friends who want the best for the survival and continuation of this little niche hobby thread we have here on this board floating on this godforsaken basket weaving forum
>>515915415
The randos do not belong. The randos will report you for saying nigger. You do not want this. We've already had this happen.
>>515915415
>And then there's this motherfucker who wants to destroy our home. News flash anon, we're not aiming for any "coolness' or "basedness" you so try to seek validation of.
>I personally just want anons I can call friends who want the best for the survival and continuation of this little niche hobby thread we have here on this board floating on this godforsaken basket weaving forum
Ironically, your viewpoint is warped and doesn't represent the majority of the website or the community. I'm glad you enjoy your timezone though.
>>515916306
Thanks anon. I'm sure you underestimate how many of our friends in other timezones feel the same way. We have allies in all of the timezones who will be here with us to MAKE /vrg/ GREAT ALWAYS!
>>515901928
I’m not proud of what the thread has become. I wish it was still fun. I only check in every now and again to see if things have improved.
>>515908602
>To be clear this started about killing both and you deflecting that off trannies onto furries
You know it wasn't.
If anything it was the exact opposite you disgusting furry apologist.
>>515916882
We can make it fun together! What's fun for you anon?
>>515917601
Force fun isn’t fun.
>>515917695
Trying to find what is fun... isn't fun?
That doesn't make any sense. I think we should try anyways and fun will surely come as it always does. Fun happens during the process
>>515916882
I just miss the innocence of discovery. That's something that can't come back though. Maybe the newfags can feel it but what newfags we get aren't as keen on learning as they are on cooming.
>>515917601
>>515917814
for me fun is taking a double barrel shotgun and putting holes into retarded annoying niggers whose names start with the letter y
>>515918394
discovery... Have you tried joining the world exploration meets we have here?
>>515899157
yeah chatgpt has been good for writing unity shaders for a year or two
>>515917559
Well i'm from Buenos Aires and I say kill 'em all
>>515914997
Just don't interact with randos. It's literally your fault.
I don't care if someone is /vrg/ or not, just that they're fine to hang out with
>>515925789
>I don't care if someone is /vrg/ or not, just that they put out
Fixed that for you.
>>515925789
Yes and that's fine.
Now let me ask you, are you also fine of the existence of /vrg/ onliy instances?
If you say yes to that then we can co-exist.
I both like /vrg/ and my non-/vrg/ friends.
But if there is no place, no home for /vrg/ only to exist in then we will dissolve into the ether and not exist. VRchat normies outnumber us 1:10000
>>515901162
You see what you want to see. I often see lots of tiny little posts with interesting anons posting interesting stuff, and I don't really mind if my occasional fun little discussion with two other anons is buried between twenty angry shitposters. I'm not even noticing angry schizo posts, it's just noise, it's souring the mood in the same way a bit of mold on the wall would sour up a house party.if you don't want to browse because all you see is "us vs them" shitposting, you've lost to a bunch of schizos who are working very hard to provoke this kind of discussions in order to make this place look worse than it is. It's often very obvious, you can often see people straight out lying about what's happening in some vrc/game instance at the moment, and then getting (You)s regardless
>>515926486
Invite only instances posted in the thread and oblivious randos will just not show up. The lasts time it worked wonders and those who got filtered kinda don't belong here.
>>515930174
>last time it worked wonders
I can't say I've noticed a major difference in the overall mood, same anons I always see were there, same kind of general talk was going on. But I did notice one pleasant difference, I've met a newfriend and it was nice to be able to come over and hit him up with "oh hey didn't see you before, are you new?" without feeling like it's a dumb question to ask. Turned out he was indeed kinda new, and it was a nice talk. I think I'm happy about this thread-only invite idea overall, it's a good balance between trying to make it more of 'our thing' and reckless cringe-looking rando hunting with angry screeches and kick votes
>>515925789
even if I did care if someone is /vrg/ or not, I can count on one hand the people who I've had join me when I'm hanging out with people not from here. everybody just sticks to the big instances
Who else here hyped for deckard? Read some rumour about it having both LH and inside out tracking.
Release end of 2025 with possibly a new Half Life game. The half lufe game will be both VR and flat playable given how good HL2 VR mod played.
>>515931334
2 more weeks
but yeah if I can hook a cable too it too and it's essentially a much improved index with standalone capability I'll be happy
>>515930789
>>515931434
I am so ready to be massively underwhelmed.
Nothing I have read so far makes me hyped about that thing and the leaks made sure that it stays that way.
>>515931334
If the Beyond and others can survive in the marketspace of ~$1000 targeting enthusiasts I think it'll do just fine. I'm interested in if they're looking at having it be able to do PC things as a standalone with AR displays and whatnot- that's an untapped market, as all other standalones are on closed software. With the one compact-ish headset you've got both a laptop and a huge multiscreen display.
>>515931334
>Read some rumour about it having both LH and inside out tracking.
I wouldn't count on that considering Valve no longer manufactures their own base stations.
>>515931434
>>515931785
Wireless but you cam connect it to a PC, probably wireless but maybe with a cable. While being a VR headset, it also seems to be some form of quasi steam deck where instesd if a handheld with a screen, it's a hesdset where you project a large display and play the steamdeck titles flat in VR.
>>515931889
This is a fear, but Valve still have a very large base of installed users with LH, and those people love it. Bigscreen beyond and MeganeX also don't produce their own Lighthouses but still release headsets with LH tracking.
LH tracking / SteamVR native tracking is a dealbreaker for me.
>>515931334
Don't worry anon, it will come out soon because I just bought a new headset.
>>515933241
thank you for your service, anon
What VR resolution to render at would give me the performance equivalent to a 1080p monitor?
>>515934310
1000x1000, 1 million pixels per eye 2 million pixels total. This is basically what the first new wave headsets had, Oculus DK2 was 960x1080 per eye. This is ignoring whatever overhead there is for composition and whatnot.
>>515934978
for comparison the bigscreen beyond has 2560x2560, 6.5 million per eye 13 million total, and I can see this 1.8 ish meter hotdog man from ~1.4 km away with the unaided eye, and he's a total of 4 pixels tall
>>515845734
all of the renders I've seen didn't include it, or have mounting points for them
It's gonna suck to still have to use my Index controllers when I get a Deckard to give fingertracked headpats.
>>515936650
I'm excited for the EOZ glove controllers coming out.
>>515931334
>both LH and inside out
Never.
It will never have both. LH adds a extra $100 or so to the cost of a headset when you have perfectly good set of cameras.
Without eyetracking it's dead. That's the main feature to look for. Eyetracking, good screens, good audio and it's a winner. Plus no fucking dealbreakers like non replaceable cable or something stupid. if you can get a bracket to screw a tracker to that's honestly plenty for LH tracking requirements.
>>515936845
All of this just to imitate the index controller
>>515937676
>He thinks deckard xr2 slop will have display port in...
>thread derailed with us vs them bullshit
Sheklestein is laughing in his bunker, I'm sure of it
>>515938052
>>He thinks deckard xr2 slop will have display port in...
I mean LIKE. Not LITERALLY.
Jesus christ anon
>>515937980
This will far surpass the index in finger tracking performance while also having the feeling of a free hand vs gripping a controller stick, which is a big jump in immersion (imo)
(This is a reference to the PS2VR which is basically the ideal headset EXCEPT THE CABLE IS NON REPLACEABLE SO THE ENTIRE HEADSET BECOMES A FUCKING PAPERWEIGHT AFTER 6 MONTHS)
>>515938251
is this all just clever reading of IMU sensors, plus lighthouse tracking from whatever tracker you use?
>>515938343
Yup, IMUs on each knuckle and a basis point of the Tundra (they've said just Tundra tracker support for the first version). There's also something about the IMUs being so close that they can be corrected to not drift.
>>515938273
Fucking Sony
>>515938251
>skin tight latex glove
this is less of a free hand feeling than the index controller
>>515938668
It's a thin fabric glove anon
>>515938516
Oh thats cool, they are close to each other, so magnetometer rigidly attached to the tracker can serve as a global referencce of magnetic background for all the finger IMUs
>>515938770
Cleaning will be a major pain
>>515938251
>No thumbstick or buttons
Unless you can use a controller and a tracking glove at the same time in VRChat (doubtful), it's useless.
>>515938929
They are integrating with the Diver-X Magnetra2 controller for that.
>>515939128
even if not, a regular old xbox controller will do as well
>>515938103
>>515901162
>>515938770
>>515938889
Pass the controllers little bro
>>515916642
This should be Make /vrg/ Always Great or M'VAG for short
>>515942665
MVAG is that like MPREG?
>>515915142
Wasn't the rule for the instances basically: read the thread (not just be 4chan in general) and have VR. Both seem somewhat flexible.
>>515931334
are you ready for all the shitposts that claim VR is just strapping a steamdeck to your face?
>>515943564
I honestly don't know if those people will even notice or care enough to shit on it
>>515901582
forgot picture again. Thanks for coming, see you on sunday for more tonegawa, sakamoto, and kunoichi wagie
>>515915142
>being a /vg/ regular does not make you cool, it makes you lame
this is why I want to avoid you people. If you look down on this thread so much, why are you here? I don't care about being "cool" but I want to avoid people who actively hate people who use the thread regularly for some reason
>>515943479
Rule 1, there are know rules.
Rule 2, it's better to actually use the site man, get the culture in ya, become the newfag you were meant to be
>>515772967
I missed it because I'm a sleepy EUnuch. Hope you guys had fun watching. (watch dirty pair next!!!)
Spring is blooming over the... office. I hate waging so much it's unreal, at least I can see my LOCO frens later
Starts at 19:30 UTC, look for the link here or join onbig gaz
>>515947723
ESL moment stay away from me you filthy pajeet.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/866570/System_Shock_2_25th_Anniversary_Remaster/
>No mention of the promised VR mode
Owari da
>>515945572
You feel this way because you have a newfag mindset. This isn't a special social club, it's an imageboard where you post things.
Before you go hurr durr, please take a moment that you are supposed to divorce identity from content on this site. When you start acting like a card-carrying member of a social club, you are missing the point. I want to hang out with people from 4chan but I do not want to be a card carrying member of the SOS club.
>>515943479
No, the rule was be a 4channer
>>515938929
Doesn't take a lot of SteamVR driver hooking fuckery to inject handtracking into whatever existing controllers you have. VD driver does this for the Touch controllers for instance, since it emulates an Oculus device, rather than implementing its own native driver.
>>515956253
Proprietary cable + sony does not sell replacements = dead headset
>>515854418
>Chicane left entry
>Chicane right entry
>Chicane left entry
>Chicane right entry
>Chicane left entry
>Chicane right entry
good event though, looking forward for the next one
>>515956591
uhm actually it's a sequence of 3 rights or 3 lefts
Haven't been to an electronics store in years but today I went for reasons. I was surprised they had a small VR section with quest, pico4 and some accessories. Always thought VR is so dead it's an internet only thing.
Thanks for reading my blog.
>>515939128
This looks perfect for everything except shooters. That's the one case where I do still feel like I'm holding something.
>>515957657
One thing I am a bit negative about is the apparent lack of a grip button, which I sorely miss moving from vive wands. A hand tracking only grip detection system will probably be even more funky than the Index.
>>515958158
>>515957657
Triggering accidental VRC face gestures will happen even more than the Index controllers with these too.
TWO
MORE
WEEKS
https://www.roadtovr.com/valve-deckard-report-release-date-price-leak/
>>515959821
Face tracking is the best solution, it's great seeing it in action when chatting with people.
>>515960194
Steam OS based headset sounds neat. I know the Quest OS is already android based but variety is nice.
>>515954581
Not poohjeet just french
>>515960649
>choosing the QoS OS instead of based Steam OS
>>515960201
I want curated, exaggerated anime faces, not a mishmash of blendshapes trying to turn a 3d expression into a half-baked 2D one.
Plus, unless you want to spend 20 hours setting up shapes in blender yourself, you're limited to only the faces that already are set up for it.My autism also likes that in VR I don't have to maintain real eye contact with people.
>>515960194
>$1200
That will be 1600€ + tip
>>515962152
I know one anon who really, really makes face tracking work. Glancing around instead of looking at you only adds to his expression because it's part of his personality, and then he somewhat made his avatar work really well with face trackingmost likely by making slightly different faces than what he makes IRL, but can't promise you that. He uses very wide-open eyes in resting face, and then when he half-closes them, it makes for a meaningful expression, and his mouth is also somehow working really well. Also had a fun moment when one face-tracked anon was trying to be serious and kinda pretend to be offended, but then he couldn't contain a little smile that slipped through his face-tracked avatar. I dunno, I feel where you're coming from (half of the time, face tracking results in very mild expressions that don't fit anime faces at all) but I also saw very, very impressive exceptions, nearly impressive enough to make me buy a face tracked headset myself. I hope it'll get more popular, and get better implementations of technology through time, both in tracking and in avatars.
>>515963454
hintdrop them? I have a face tracker but was never satisfied with how it looked on my model so I stopped using it, I wonder if they would have any advice.
>>515964068
L, EU guy who used to be a spaceman before he decided to conform to society.
>>515963454
sounds to me you got a crush on them
>>515966131
Not at all, he's a great person and a good bro, but that's about it. Would adopt him as a little brother, nothing more. He's just the best example of face tracking user I can think of.of course, it's still relatively mild compared to proper exaggerated anime expressions, and if someone prefers those, I completely understand. But I think he proves it can be used in a meaningful way to improve your overall expression, and that it can look less uncanny than your average FT user
>>515965583
Seeing him go anime, Y finally start ERPing, and NA 9S opting for the cuter cat-eared model are further proof to me that everyone in VRC gets proteus'd eventually, some people just take longer than others.
>>515966838
ok nigga thanks for keeping score lol
>>515967587
I just hate seeing my friends fall into faggotry
>>515969081
let's be really frank for a second.
>I just hate seeing my friends fall into faggotry
you're in the wrong community then.
>>515969081
>wah my friends aren't conforming to my expectations
>gets hint or namedropped in the thread
>within 5 minutes get message from anon asking if everything is okay
>"they are talking about you in the thread"
>turns out the anon was posting it
name them.
>>515966838
Posts like this are always strange to me. You're on 4chan but you're surprised when other people do weird things or aren't beacons of purity?
>>515902073
Sorry I couldn't join the race (EU).
>>515970376
This community is also full of creeps shaming others in an attempt to make them their personal fucktoy.
Pay it no mind.
>>515970376
It is kinda funny how some people here are like, bible-thumping puritans
Then you go to the other 90% of the generals on this board and everyone's just posting softcore porn.
>>515971446
"Everyone is a creep" and "everyone is a groomer" is woman brained thinking
bro you aren't a victim
if you don't want to do something just say no
>>515969081
On one hand, it's your fault for having such expectations, on the other, it's not your fault if they get fucked over for doing this. If nothing else, people want to be able to believe in themselves and their dumb decisions so you do kind of need to just let them do it.
>>515972579
You'd be surprised at how unironic some of that is.
>>515972696
>>515972764
We do have the rather clear distinction between /vrg/ and /vrlg/, so I can udnerstand why people do not want to have degen stuff sickering into more or less normal discussions about VR.
For me it's whatever, as I can't force anybody to adhere to my own principles. I do choose who to play games or who to hang out with according to this though.
It is what it is, I guess.
>>515973213
>sorry chud, I don't associate with non-vegans
>>515973213
I'm in the same boat anon, though I do get a little loud about it. In the end I'm just a sucker for true love stuff and I'm well tied over by the wonderful long lasting relationships that have been formed.
>>515970376
>>515972579
NTA but despite being here since 2018, I still get nervous and uncomfortable around very lewd avatars as a result of a very sheltered upbringing.
I admit it's my own issue though and not the fault of the folks with those models. A few times someone has gotten upset with me cause dropping my spaghetti got misinterpreted as judgement.
personally i just fucking hate everyone
>>515973213
"Oh gosh I'm so angry and horrified about degeneracy on 4chan" was a sentiment that did not exist until after the election
>>515973698
My guess is the other anon is like you, he just doesn't want to admit it
>>515973947
Gatekeeping was always a thing in this website
>>515974291
the same website with shitting dick nipples?
>>515974340
Nobody was jerking off to that you nigger, just trying to fuck with people
>>515974291
spoken just like an electionfag
the guiding principle used to be OC
>>515974410
>Nobody was jerking off to that you nigger
a bold statement on the same site that has /d/
When doing a world for vrc, how do the "camera spheres" work? Where you put in the camera to take a clear picture of something?
>>515972579
I just don't want everything to be about porn and sex 24/7. I am by no means a 'beacon of purity' in other settings but if I'm just trying to chill out, have a conversation or play a game we don't need our dicks and tits out like this is just the pre-game for another ERP session.
>>515974340
Same website that will ban you for posting that in a blue board
Segregation always happen here, we literally have containment boards like /mlp/, all topics are not tolerated everywhere
>>515974645
Screenspace shader with a render texture pointing to the camera you want to use.
>>515974678
We are not anywhere near that. Currently we have people who are so rabidly anti-lewd that they start seething if you even mention vrchat or anime girls.
This thread's problem is militant puritanism.
>>515974645
what? reflection probe?
>>515974840
And putting it on just a sphere or something will not cause it to render for everyone everywhere?
Recommendations for screen space shaders?
>>515974992
For example some worlds taking in game pictures. Then you can hold your camera to it and it only shows the picture instead of the normal world view
>>515975447
oh, right. I think cancer space has one for that.
>>515975447
https://github.com/AkaiMage/VRC-Cancerspace
It has an option to only render the screenspace effect within whatever mesh you apply it to, so putting it on a sphere will only show the effect in that sphere.
>>515973947
>I'm angry and horrified
dishonest and disingenuous.
Not what I said, not what I meant.
>>515973621
Stop being a soccer mom, I guess?
It's up to the people to do whatever they want. If you don't like it, don't associate with people like that. It really is that easy.
You don't need to be "loud" about anything.
>>515974964
In the current thread I'm seeing the opposite, people got defensive over a single mention of someone becoming an ERPer
2/3s of the examples >>515966838 gave were about proteus changing long term behaviour and avatars homogenizing into to ERP-ready booths.
>>515955369
For fbf maybe but thread instances are thread instances for a reason.
>>515974645
https://booth.pm/en/items/4848817 has the prefab for the camera sphere itself if you want it. It has a few nice options over the naive screenspace UV shader, like fixing aspect ratio.
>>515976394
This is some strange historical revisionism. Whenever I get people (and I have been vetting since 2018) I have always asked if they are from 4chan. Not if they are from the thread.
Is anyone else here too much of a wimp for horror games? I can't bear to be more than 15 minutes in a VR horror on my own.
>>515954423
psych rock and chill edish
https://vrch.at/dhvwa7v4
>>515982935
Have fun big miku. I'm gonna have a nap and come on when I feel better.
>>515982935
>>515966838
>Y
You mean this one?
>>515955369
>When you start acting like a card-carrying member of a social club
Where does this misunderstanding come from? I don't do this, nobody does this. But I like this thread, and I don't want to spend time around people who hate this thread and look down on me for using it, and come here just once every 6 months to shit it up for entertainment. God forbid. No issue otherwise with visitors who use 4chan but generally not this thread, they're technically not /vrg/ though
>>515972764
>they get fucked over for doing this
How?
>>515985482
they become impure in the eyes of their 'friend' and exiled from their life, of course
i just hate fags
>>515985047
Yeah. He posts in /trash/ now and thinks /vrg/ is too boring.
>>515986387
>>515986493
Is he wrong?
>>515986493
He's actually a chaos enjoyer
>>515986856
/vrlg/ avatars are disgusting.
>>515987283
Just close your eyes
>>515987336
But then I can just hear men?
>>515986856
no, but i think with him it's more of an ego thing
he gets a lot more positive attention on his avatarfagging posts in trash than here
>>515987441
would you rather hear women?
>>515988087
I want to see cute anime girls.
>>515988087
there's just no winning is there
>>515966838
don't you try to make gay my niggi spaceman.
He ain't the straighest or the sharpest but I swear for my momma he will not bend unlike you faggots, and if he does, that's his problem.
stop projecting
>>515986994
shh don't tell them
Several of the purist are also /d/ tier coomers who fling bibles saying they don't erp while they jerk it to some fucked up shit outside of VR.
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