/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1942

beat saber

Are people still actually hyped for the frame? It's so underwhelming

In exactly 12 hours and 12 minutes, nothing will happen.

>>580938630

>>580938780
Valvedrones will be valvedrones. So far it just looks like a worse and more expensive version of the Quest 3 that you're paying a high premium to avoid Facebook

>>580938630
don't mind if I do

>>580938928
Quest 3 with face tracking IR floodlight, and far better comfort.
Hoping for better FOV too but have to see later.
You're also paying to NOT be in meta's ecosystem which is a plus for a lot of people.

>>580938928
>high premium to avoid Facebook
Seems like a good deal, Meta loves fucking with its quest users.

>>580938928
Exactly. Don't get one. ESPECIALLY if you live near the same warehouse I do.

*revs my car at you*
GET OUT OF THE WAY IDIOT

>>580938780
It looks like an upgrade to my index, and i refuse to ever buy zucchini so I'm rather optimistic, desu. I'm still going to wait a hot minute to see more reviews when it does eventually drop for real because the 30 year old boomer in me who was utterly fucking traumatized by wireless tech being horrid is honestly still very skeptical of any wireless in-house solutions, and also the loss of lighthouses worries me a little. But if it ends up being better than my fears then it will be an upgrade in every conceivable way in my specific case desu.

>>580939870
IM WALKIN HERE!

>>580940176
You'll have 2 days to see reviews before needing to decide. Probably. Try to get into the first batch, and ideally you really should have decided already.

>>580941302
Why is that

>>580941429
Valve will release price and reviews before opening the lotto. Demand is going to be high after that and if you want to wait a month and get one your only option will be scalpers or waiting a year.
Personally I thnk the used market might be pretty good after a while; scalpers are going to get owned by the 'I am a valve drone who bough this but I hate VR and regret it' purchases.

Ive decided that If i don't get a kipfel wife to hug and love and headpat and hang out with all the time and headpat and hug and also love soon then I'm going to KILL MYSELF

>>580944802
>kipfel wife
99% of them are guys so it is more likely you'll an hero.

>>580944802
That seems a little extreme anon

>>580944802
You're gonna be a good boy for kipfel right anon?

>>580945607
Ideal, I hate foids.

>>580938928
This post definitely makes sense if you ignore everything else about the frame and are mentally retarded

>>580947382
Valve drone spotted

>>580947176

I didn't get Kipfel hype till I went to /trash/ needless to say I was wrong go get it Anon

I wrote something up but didnt want to post it.
So here's just the image i was gonna post instead.

>>580948521
>till I went to /trash/
I don't get it. Do I need to go to one of those /trash/ instances to learn about it?

>>580948521
I still dont get the hype it's like fucking a pet

>>580948521
I don't go to trash or want a kipfel that goes to trash
Is it truly over for me?

Kipfels are like cats, if you're attracted to a one I'll assume you're on the same level as furfags

>>580948785
No I'm just a gooner
>>580948806
That's the point and its cute
>>580948882
It's only over when you give up, you don't need to go there to get one but there is a high chance they are from there

>>580949045
Yeah hi I'm a furry and have no sexual attraction to kipfels.

>>580949216
>Yeah hi I'm a furry
Go back to >>>/trash/

>>580948806
I think bro is just getting cuteness aggression (a sign of hi IQ).

REMINDER:
Casual SEA mahjong - 24 hours from now

can I run a torrent client on the frame so I don't have to transfer all my porn from my PC first?

>no wire
Oh so it's literally a downgrade from the index

it's 4 in the fucking morning, why are we getting raided at this hour

>Americans

good gaming

>>580947176
Than wish for a kipfel husband the fag in a bottle might have already granted you a future kipfel foid instead.

>>580952216
Yooo I recognize that map, man how would I like to play VR zombies with people there.

>>580952640
It's a shame that no one here will do the discord linking required to play. But you should come play with us

>>580953304
I will, I'm in the discord and I'm always hankering to play it. I just need to know what time and all.

Need SiuSiu wife.

>>580953304
I don’t even know what game this is I’m not anti discord at all

>>580954115
https://fxtwitter.com/Hpebble_/status/2013703080202907928

>>580953304
I once had a pretty decent size group for it a couple months back, haven't gone to check it out in quite some time though.

>>580954419
pack-a-punch is working now

Where is it?

>>580954756
10am PST, idiot

>>580944802
anons progression into madness has been... intense to witness

>>580954756
Gabe has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever right now.

>>580949338

>>580952408
No no no NOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THIS

>be me
>kipfel boy
>want an anon to love and to hug
>check thread
>anons only want kipfel wife
>leave and NEVER come back

volleyball when?

>>580957045
8h30 from now

So is nothing happening?

volleyball doko?

>>580957754
Lazy Monday

Volleyball waiting area I guesscome chill if anyone wants
https://vrch.at/fgyevrdf
https://vrch.at/fgyevrdf

>>580833779 (Cross-thread)
>>580957045
>>580957948

mmmh 250 MB of occlusion Data

I WANNA PLAY VOLLEYBALL

>>580958643
whens next railing?

>>580959017
It will be announced on twitter!

>>580959017
i wanted to do some testing today.
im gonna post it here
>>580959248
i have taken the feedback into consideration and will not mix instances anymore.

>>580949965
please respond
I need to know whether to get the 1tb frame or 256gb and extra SSD for my PC

Sorry for the wait
SEA Volleyball is up!
https://vrch.at/vqg3hcu3
https://vrch.at/vqg3hcu3

>>580959831
The answer is yes but the frame has an SD Card slot so you're better off using that for porn

>>580959431
Sadly i will be working late, i hope im coming home early enough for you not being passed out

Wait why does the frame have storage?

>>580960790
It's a standalone headset anon please pay attention

Fashion Club
Theme: Adventurer
Date: September 25

The Fashion Club is a newly started (hopefully recurring) meet focused on making outfits that aren't the standard casual, sexy, tactical, etc. The goal is to build a wardrobe full of great outfits that are not skimpy(without good reason), follow a theme, and that you'd want to wear anytime and anywhere, including public instances. The given themes will be very vague or broad, allowing club members to freely interpret their design based on a loose idea to prevent uniformity(like bunny suits or tactical gear). Meets are planned for possibly once a month, once every two months, or once a quarter.

The theme for this first meet is Adventurer, typically the medieval fantasy type but any interpretation is allowed as long as the first thought by anyone on seeing this outfit is without a doubt "that's an adventurer". Don't forget your weapons, your trinkets, anything you might need on a quest. Bonus points for interactive weapon gimmicks. It does not matter how you made the outfit, if you got an outfit on booth, kitbashed, the final result matters.

There is no contest(unless the people want one). Show up, show off, see what others have made, take pictures.

Anyone is free to join to show off or spectate, but there is one restriction on the final design:
- You must be mostly dressed and show no skimpy features(that means no chainmail bikinis).

EU Assetto Corsa: European Racing club
Race 127

18:00 UTC 20:00 CET, 14th of September
UNLIKE THE FRAME, THIS IS DEFINITELY TODAY!

Continuing fun cars: Mazda RX-7, WANKEL. At Oulton Park. Afterwards, we're going to AMERICA!

60 minute practice
12 minutes qualifiers
8 laps race

Assetto Corsa Content Manager - a better launcher and mod manager: https://assettocorsa.club/content-manager.html
To install mods: just drag and drop zip files from mega onto the Content Manager windows and click on the hamburger menu on top right. Install stable custom shader patch and 7-zip plugin in Content manager.

For communication we'll use mumble at voice.vrg.party port 64738, as it doesn't need any registrations or logins.
https://www.mumble.info/

MODS: https://mega.nz/folder/WiATSZKT#x4gRpXrR480P4ftj1sMw6w

>>580954501
that was the last time I did it I think, when it first got added.

>>580961210
I'm now glad the dev is doing week long play tests now instead of the weekend play test. It was so annoying since I was busy on the weekends.

>>580960825
Oh, that sounds awful.

>>580961492
week long if you are a patreon

>>580961589
Yeah don't get one, it's doa. Valve spent so long making it that it went from being mid on release to outdated on release then they did a double shot of not actually bothering to write any software for it until last minute so its all buggy garbage

>>580961669
Yea ik that, but I ain't go the money to support kek

>>580961589
It's an awful device

>>580960884
can i know who the host is?

>>580962423
It's Jim

>>580962423
Its joe

buying a frame for $600

>>580959967
new instance
https://vrch.at/df7hey6k
https://vrch.at/df7hey6k

buying a frame for $1200

It's gonna be 999 and picobros are gonna have a meltdown as to why the $2500 headset is still superior and you should wait some more

wired pcvr is all the same isnt it?
ill settle for a quest 3

>>580961898
sorry to hear that brokey

>>580962423
It's anon.

>>580962423
It's Moot

>>580962423
it's me

>>580960884
What time? NA? EU? SEA?

>>580964716
Last time I asked, it was supposed to be "NA evening hours"
What time that roughly means, I'm not 100% sure but hopefully we shall see if there's a more concrete time to plan around for the other timezones to plan around as it gets closer.

>>580962895
Going by the rumor that it's going to FEEL like Index full kit price, I don't think it's going to be $999.
Adjusting for inflation, $999 in 2019 is going to be $1300 in 2026, so my bet it's $1200 or $1249.

absurd pricing for what it is

>>580965327
it's not meta so it's okay

>>580965327
You do not hate Sam Altman enough. And choking the life out of him would not be enough.

>>580962895
ain't no way it's $999.

>>580965104
>>580965813
It's not going to be more expensive than the Steam Machine, it'll either be within that price range, or a little bit cheaper for the 256GB (cheapest) option, versus The Machines 512GB (cheapest) option. And everyone else has said the same thing, the majority of hardware and features are similar to the Quest 3, a 3 year old headset, that makes it 3 year old hardware.

>>580963054
If the steam frame isn't powerful enough as a standalone might as well use your PC to do the heavy lifting and use another headset if the steam frame costs as much as a mid tier gaming PC unless you got more money to burn.

>>580959967
good volley ballers

>>580965327
Look how much unsubsidized Quest 3 (business version), Quest Pro, Pico 4, Pico 4 Enterprise cost. Subsidized version litterally price dump, and hope to recoup on closed garden sales. That's why they are locked down consoles and not devices you fully own. Steam Frame is fully unlocked device you'll own. And the price is similar to business, unlocked versions of other headsets.

So basically the frame is a GPU and two screens that you slap on your head. 1 hour battery AT MOST lol

Begone tourist.

>>580968523
>noo stinky 4channers who want to talk about vr aren't welcome here in this 4chan vr thread

>>580968472
>1 hour battery AT MOST
How the fuck did battery time get worse?

>>580969101
He's just making shit up because he hasn't been paying attention to VR headsets since 2019 and has no idea that everything is standalone now.

Anyway; the real battery lfe we'll find out from reviews. Valve clams it's like 2-3 hours standalone, and 3-4 streaming but I will only trust real numbers.

what happens when you turn your head while charging and playing and the usb breaks?
does valve repair stuff like this or are you out of a headset?

what if they advise not to charge while using and so dont cover it

>>580969523
don't play with the leash simple as

>>580969523
Valve will RMA this. Don't get one though; it's a DOA headset that only retards buy.

>>580969609
Arf!

>>580969708
you don't have to protect your queue spot THAT hard

>>580970036
True. Literally zero people are going to pay the ridiculous price for a quest sidegrade in 2026.

>>580969523
if you're really that worried get one of those magnetic cables. i use my q3 tethered to the charger and have had 0 issues

>>580970134
I think a bigger issue is what is even coming out that would make others flood into getting a steam frame? Half-Life Alyx 2? I don't think the hype is there anymore.

>>580938557 (OP)
HELLO THREAD
GREGG TALK
SEPTEMBER 26TH
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WATCH VIDEO FOR MORE INFORMATION ON HOW THIS SHIT WORKS
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DM craiglomaniac TO SIGN UP (apolocheese again if I am slow to reply)

ALSO THIS IS THE VIDEO I MENTIONED IN THE VIDEO
https://youtu.be/Iwpi1Lm6dFo?si=jBq5kCPUIyNnES5e

>>580971646
Valve specifically promised NO new VR titles.
I think there's a steam vr sale today though, but people are going to see there's no new games and that pcvr is dead. The frame is funny; it's coming out when PCVR is just toast.

>>580969523
It just breaks and you're fucked waiting for Valve RMA. And the cable routing is kinda AWFULL for charging while playing

Real AI Fishing is coming along well

>TWO HOURS BATTERY LIFE
HAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHA

>>580973396
2 hours battery life for $700. Who'd buy this nonsense?

>>580971759
>The frame is funny; it's coming out when PCVR is just toast.

PCVR is literally goku healing right now. Vibe coded VR Mods are launching so fast I can't notice them all. Every few days its "oh heres another one of your formative childhood hobby experiences in VR, btw I'm not a programmer". It's also all genres and all camera/perspective types and even games of antiquity are prey as long as its on PC. You can play pokemon red in VR, something I wouldn't even imagine people would try to do. AI makes the process so accessible and low effort there's basically no meaningful scarcity.

>>580973612
>$700
if only

>>580971753
Please don't post your trash event in blue board

>>580973612
700 id buy it for tetherless vr gooning. As much as I hate mixed tracking that price is pretty peak

Haha wouldnt it be super funny if every single gremlin in vrg installed the lifting gimmick and became abuse goblins haha as a joke lol

>>580973953
You can do tetherless vr gooning for $400 with a quest 3

>>580973987
>Zucc'd
No thanks

The Big Walk VR mod guy is working on Titanfall 2
https://fxtwitter.com/CircuitLord/status/2099439087299989761

>>580974271
Crazy

>>580969523
>>580970198
>if you're really that worried get one of those magnetic cables. i use my q3 tethered to the charger and have had 0 issues

I would be careful with this. I spent weeks autistically researching magnetic chargers because I got tired of plugging my quest in. There's no certified magnetic charger for USB. USB is also difficult and not designed to make a magnetic connection where nothing bad can possibly happen. Found instances of people showing their fried laptops. There's both painfully stupid connector designs and ones that look fine, but I'm not an expert. Some people claiming to be experts came forward and said not to buy this shit, but I can't tell if they were axe grinding autists or not.

Anyway I just wouldn't use it on a $1000+ device myself. I wish valve gave the frame the steam controller's magnetic system or made that enthusiast headstrap with hotswappable batteries. A magnetic charger would also be great for devs that would repeatedly stand up and sit back down.

How about zucc get off his ass and make a quest 4 that's better than the frame so meta shills make sense instead of shilling a dated headset.

>>580965327
Nah it's short of absurd, even with the component crisis you are getting something generally better than the index in almost every way and the price is the same. It's also better than the quest 3 in almost every way for PCVR, valve rounded the headset instead of making the panels better. Really the shame is the headset is too good to have basic bitch panels like that now.

>>580973961
using a nemesis like an onahole...

>>580974901
sir, this is the blue board

>>580965515
AI is saving VR before it destroys the economy and the human race. VR was dying and not coming back, and now AI has made community work both powerful and abundant. I wouldn't make frame $200 or even $300 cheaper in exchange for deleting AI created VR Mods from existence. I don't even think I would take a frame for free having way less things to play on it.

>>580974943
The nemesis I want to use goes to blue board instances.

>>580965104
>>580965813
I have no doubt valve would raise the price and go back on "less than index". But I get this feeling they wouldn't save that information for order announcement day. The obvious thing to do was back during their updates about the crisis and delays they could've retracted the "less than index" claim, not saying its more expensive than index now, just say they are no longer sure enough to stick to that claim.

It's really unprofessional to go back on a aspirational promise, a date, a price, a feature, anything, and not mention the problem when you have the clear opportunity to do so. That's about as crazy as getting to release date just to announce you are postponing the release date.

>>580973953
>2 hours are enough for gooning
I hate zoomera and their fucked attentionspan.

Ayo wuz we frame?

what are u guys doing rn

Frame more like lame

>>580974271
VR MULTIPLAYER LOBBIES WHEN
MY 200HRS WITH THE EPG WILL WRECK YOUR ASSES

Frame doko?

>>580976060
eating some baked beans on toast right now, pretty cash money i say

>>580976218
2 hours 15 minutes

>>580973396
thats with a factory new battery fresh out of the box
give it a few months of use and warmth from laying down and its gonna be grim

the less I talk with my friends, the more my internal model of them devolves into a cute gremlin that needs headpats
pls help

steam frame will be <800

Steam frame will be 900 min, likely 1200

>>580931032 (Cross-thread)
Just search for coom zone

1000 Dollar for a 2 hour battery headset that probably breaks my neck i say NO THANK YOU

>>580978237
1000 Dollars for a mind blowing 2 hour experience of a technological master piece that can be recharged
>No this is bad! :(
1000 Dollar experience of sex with a std ridden single use whore from bangkok
>Ahh Yes! finally a worthwhile use of my money! :)

>>580978665
>1000 Dollar experience of sex with a std ridden single use whore from bangkok
>anons stupid analogy doesnt even align with market prices

>>580974901
>>580975378
rape all nemesis users

>so many fucking newfag/tourist/bait posts from people who have genuinely clearly never used a VR headset before
>actually talking about fucking battery life on a headset where you can purposefully infinitely swap and charge the batteries
Yup it's gotta be releasing today.

>>580979115
when's the last time you had a bangkok whore? shit's expensive now.

>>580979668
>purposefully infinitely swap and charge the batteries
You missed the news anon.. they cancelled that headstrap.
Which sucks ass because I wanted one. I think there will be third party hotswappable ones though.

>>580979621
>Find nemesis/illusion the least sexy
>it's the one literally everyone uses for their main avatar, if they choose to use a gremlin
Fuck my life

>>580979778
>You missed the news anon.. they cancelled that headstrap.
As I said, so many fucking newfag/tourist/bait posts.
If you aren't baiting then literally what the fuck are you even possibly referring to?

>>580979829
Nemesis users are starting to migrate to Melvii

>>580975378
Hint?

>>580979917
Anon, that battery doesn't come off without turning the headset off...

Nemesis posting is just femlala posting

>>580979778
>>580979991
You people are retarded newfags, please stop spreading misinformation.

>>580980050
My nemesis looks like and acts like this.

>>580979917
you cannot swap the batteries unless you swap out the entire headstrap and interface assembly which they do not sell individually
screwing the thing apart and changing the battery does not qualify as a swappable battery

>>580980269
cancelled months ago you based retard

>>580980269
That's the strap they cancelled anon. They removed backend references to it; that leak comes from FCC documents posted back in like... june or something. It was corroborated by steam api backend info also talking about the enthusiast strap, but a month or so ago they removed it.

>>580980269
>hot-swappable batteries
Why would I want to touch overheated batteries, what kind of selling point is this?

>>580980381
>>580980405
>cancelled months ago
>these leaks only came out 3 months ago
Shh.
Stop talking.
Wait a few hours to be proven wrong.

>>580980449
It came with an ejection toggle so you don't have to touch it

>>580980495
lmao sure okay, valve just deletes all references to the enthusiast strap and it hadn't turned up in any pictures, review leaks or ANYTHING. I think it might still come later but not on launch.

>>580980495

>>580980495
if it was real it would have been included in the linus unboxing leak
im sorry you had to find out this way

Realistically I'm sure Valve gave up on the battery pack idea and figured a third party solution will come out fast enough for it to not be an issue.

I think this is the final 2 weeks bros

i think its the final 2 weeks before the 2 week announcement bros

>>580980887
Yeah the thing is it was also likely to come with index speakers too

>>580980968
That will also probably be fixed soon enough, I expect the third party market to be really solid for the frame

twenty minutes until two more weeks?

>>580981109
No I believe it's an hour and 20 minutes since Machine launched at 1pm ET

>8 years later, wanting to upgrade my index
>frame is worse than the index for some inexplicable reason
t-thanks valve...

Honestly the enthusiast strap hope isn't completely dead; there's still a missing 1017 that was registered in korea. 1015 is the frame, and the controllers are 13 and 14.

TWO MORE SECONDS

>>580981341
it wasnt in the unboxing leak, it is not going to be around at launch and its so far gone that it has not been mentioned to reviewers
its not gonna happen because by that time 3rd party straps are already going to have filled up the niche

>>580981775
Theres also a shipment specifically of headset straps; but yeah I think while it probably still exists (not cancelled) it's not coming with launch.

10 MINUTES BROS!!! 10 MINUTES!!!

>>580982096
it's in an hour, nigger

>>580982096
Read you retarded ape

>>580982279
*two weeks
sorry typo

>>580979668
Sorry i rather have a cable than a battery

>>580982370
>>580982279
chillax mamasitas i meant 10 minutes until my pizza arrives

>>580982527
Did you know it come with a port that accepts a cable

>>580982527
You can still plug your leash in to your battery if you want to bait-kun

>>580982576
your pizza will be late and cold

I am a consumer. I want something that JUST WORKS. what i dont want is:
>fiddling around with pairing and resetting steam VR
>fiddling around with batteries, potentially unscrew things
>spending hours and hours researchibg problems
>running out of batteries at inopportune times

Is that so hard to understand?

I keep seeing all of this nemesis posting

Today.

>>580982890
I wish I saw kipfels posting desu

Bros...

>>580983026
>steam sabers have native controller smoothing
okay this makes it worth it

>>580983132
fake

>>580983132
Kinda doesn't work if you drop it 1 hour before it actually comes out. You have to drop it last monday at 1003

>>580982875
Nothing made since at the latest 2006 "just works"

>>580983132
lying shit

>>580979928
Are there actually nemesis users? I always see people switch into it for a second for a joke/gremlin pile

>>580983512
I have one but don't really use her anymore.

>>580983512
Join poker...

Holy FUCK i wish there were more mamehinata

>>580983512
Poker is full of them and it's so fucking sexy when they all start touching each other...

It was first revealed that Valve started working on the Frame in around January of 2021.
So if we take January 1st as the start date and September 14th as the "release date" (or whenever lottery opens a few days later as the technical release date)
Then these past two weeks have lasted roughly around 2,082 days, which is around 69 months (nice), which is close to 6 years.

>>580982769
N-no not like this anon was right, my pizza it is late and cold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG2U_V45Z_c

(Still no poemposting this week because working on idol)
Volleyball at 21:00CEST (in ~2h40), followed by Mahjong 1h later at 22:CEST (in ~3h40).
Please note that now there's a 120ms ping limit for volleyball joiners, if you are above the limit you can still join and spectate

>>580984408
zuckcucks in SHAMBLES

>>580984827
>p2w
ITS NOT FAAAIR

NOTHING. WILL. HAPPEN.

>>580985652
IT'S HAPPENING

would anyone be interested in a karaoke instance (NA) this evening?

>>580985840
He did not see a Steam Frame because it isn't there. This anon is delusional. Take him to the infirmary.

Remember this moment. You will be telling anons where you were when the steam frame came out.

>>580984408
If you're going to do a tracking comparison you should try to make the conditions identical. Seems like a glaring flaw to hold one controller and not the other.

>>580985998
>$699? Not great, not terrible.

>>580986293
Yeah I don't get this kind of jitter on Q3 and I don't use a gunstock. He's probably using Steam Link on both devices.

Nothing ever happens

Dawn of the Final Hour
24 Minutes Remaining

>>580986202
>daddy daddy, tell me the story of where were you when a perfectly ordinary mid tier headset dropped, i want to hear it again
index was big happening, frame is going to be forgotten hard unless they take advantage of builtin chip and actually build some software for it
>and stop calling me daddy anon, you're older than i am

256GB: $949
1TB: $1149

I'm still buying the Steam Frame

>>580986410
I get a ton of shaking that throws off my aim at times but I can't differentiate tracking jitter from my own natural hand trembling because Pavlov has so little motion smoothing that it picks it all up.

His comparison is backwards to shill his gunstock obviously but unless Steam Frame players are trained in telekinetics they're not going to be playing Pavlov with one controller unheld so I'd like to see a better comparison.

>>580986359
>Sir... this price tracker only records up to 699...

>>580986928
even if true, I expected worse

>>580987546
same desu
was pretty much sure it was going to be $1150 base or something
triple digit pricing for the base model is a welcome surprise

It's not up but it's power supply brick is

https://store.steampowered.com/app/4978480/Steam_Hardware_Power_Supply_Unit/

>>580960884
Does cosplay count?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/4978460/Steam_Frame_Accessory_Replacement_Kit/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4978440/Steam_Frame_Ergonomic_Accessories_Kit/

>>580987714
>fixed non-replaceable cable
Ebin.

>>580987924
Holy jews

>>580988019
Wtf the price went up since august

>>580987924
$50 for two cushions

>>580988019
extremely grim...

well shit, it's happening, price shows up in search bar now

UK PRICE 889 GBP
https://store.steampowered.com/search/?sort_by=_ASC&force_infinite=1&hwtype=0&category1=993&supportedlang=english&snr=1_7_7_230_7&page=1

>>580988074
Still $59 for America

>>580988116
THATS NOT THREE FUCKING DIGITS WHAT THE FUCK

$1059

>>580987924
>>>>>>$50.00 USD FOR TWO SMALL FOAM CUSHIONS
>>>>>>>>>>>>$SIXTY WHOLE FUCKING DOLLARS FOR SOME VELCRO STRAPS

Grim.
Three digit rumors were possibly wrong if that's base model price.

>>580988141
>1049€

Fuck this noise I'm getting a bigshit 2

it's grim

>>580987924
>>580988297
price for ergonomic accessories kit here is higher than USD conversion + VAT
jewish cunts

i fucking hate valve

>>580988372
I look forward to your post complaining about it

>1609 AUD
>99 AUD for the ergonomic accessory kit
FUCKING JEWS

>$1059

>>580988560
>they're charging you $60 for it to come with the cushion
LMAO

Ergo kit is basically a necessity so that really puts the price at $1120ish
Oof.

>>580988465
oh but the actual steam frame price isn't too bad, it's $1200 here which is less than $1059 + VAT
I can live with that

So is it still a lottery or what?

>1.5k leaf
expected
>price of a AAA title for fucking straps
fuck off

>>580988653
I'll just wait two weeks for a better chink strap to come out.

>>580988653
So everyone knows, don't try to play VR without a top strap and knuckle straps. Per dollar of cost they are the most valuable items on the headset. But get $30 ones on amazon later if you want

>they don't remember when vive used to sell audio straps for $150

ONE NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

>>580988748
>>580988707
>power supply not included
???

>>580988707
>$240 for not even 1TB of extra storage
they're joking or what
>power supply not included
that's good

>Select a model below to sign up. Eligible customers may sign up for one model only.
erm... is this different from how the machine worked? for that one you could sign up to all the models if you wanted to

>>580988826
these have no hardware in them they're $3 of plastic and fabric

If I never intend to use the built in mode and just stream PCVR, I have zero need of storage right? Seems dumb to pay an extra $250 almost

>>580988748
does 1TB come with the power supply or the ergo kit as standard? surely they're not jewing that hard?

you don't need the power supply you retards, it's usb-c, use the same cable you use to charge your phone

>>580989013
it doesnt lol

>>580989073
Ideally something like the same cable you charge your laptop with would be much better.

>two weeks have passed
was it worth the weight?

SIGNUPS ARE UP

kek

>>580989013
Nope only difference is just the storage size.

1TB for 250€ seems pointless when you can just use the SD card slot

>>580989073
>use the same cable you use to charge your phone
This.
I'll use the same charger that I use for my T480

>>580989184
good goy

>Can only choose one lotto to enter
choose wisely

>>580988886
oh this is gay, you can't increase your chances by opting for both, it's one or the other

Gonna wait for actual reviews instead of these payed shills

>use a flimsy cable to indefinitely play with your headset instead of a more proper connection
I'm going to be worried about yanking that fucking piece of shit clean in half leaving the connective metal bit in its socket

It'll be huge to have as many games as possible on the Frame itself, I'm definitely going for the 1TB model. Poorcucks please stay in your lane.

>>580989340
it wouldn't increase your chances because everyone would be doing it if that was possible

finally, two weeks have passed

scalping my 256gb for £1300 on release
signed up with 20 accounts

1TB is the early access version because you know it's gonna be available.

Does that mean selecting the 1TB model gives you better chances because you're not in the poorfag list?

one of the things i dont think ive seen anyone yap about here is the dual channel radio
having two channels one for video and one for audio seems like a no brainer in hindsight

>>580989549
depends on how many 1TBs they have available, it could be substantially lower than the 256GBs

>>580989080
>>580989221
yeah it just showed up for me too
so it's more than a price of 2TB SSD for 756GB of storage and NOTHING else? that's wild, even the Machine had some extras
what exactly is the usecase for the larger storage? I just can't think of anything that wouldn't work with an SD card instead, surely people don't play THAT many standalone VR games at a time? I know I won't

I can't believe two weeks is finally here....

>>580989417
Remember it's a phone SOC. The games it can run are really small.

Zucc is fucking laughing so hard from his chinese penthouse.

>>580989624
local porn

Color passthrough add-on featured on the store page itself. $149

>>580989553
its one radio for the VR connection, so that's video audio input and tracking. The other radio is for internet

>>580989624
>surely people don't play THAT many standalone VR games at a time?
are there even enough standalone vr games you can install to fill it up with it?

Real AI Fishing in about 30 minutes but this time with a twist - everyone is welcome! Standalone or VR, up to 8 players. More details soon.

>>580989809
oh nevermind im a retarded faggot who cant read

So, what's the point of the face deck at this price point if you already have a Quest 3?

>>580989921
there genuinely isn't one

>>580989747
yeah that was my reason for wanting to get 1TB but some anon reminded me that for porn you can just an SD card
>>580989786
>$149
that's actually pretty cheap, it has some nice hardware and people were speculating it might be $300+

>>580989921
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>mfw I came as steam frame released
you're welcome

So now that we know the price and before we get flooded with the inevitable newfags coming and asking

"Quest 3 or Steam Frame?"
Without sounding like a shilling apeflinging monkey for either headset and batting for which billion dollar company you're trying to defend, what do you say to them?

Wow, $1100 and I have to pay the import and shipping tax to my turd world
When's the Quest 4?

>>580989921
>foveated streaming
>eye tracking
and if your a schizo
>no meta

just ignore how you can have 2/3 things with a DIY solution that is totally safe.

>>580989921
Not using zucked hardware.
>>580989992
>Without sounding like a shilling apeflinging monkey
Ah fuck.

the piece of velcro costs 59£
thats 80 usd

excuse me?

>>580989786
Okay so 1050 + Headstrap and controllers for 70 + Zenni lenses for 50 + 200 for a nonshit Wifi7 router and I don't know how much for portable batteries.
FUCK!

>>580990009
>When's the Quest 4?
a few more months

So where's the swappable battery and enhanced audio kitM

>>580989921
There's improvements everywhere but the panels and haptics, but the price for a sidegraded panel hurts.

I got one for you though. Check what games you can run co-op with two headsets, either both standalone or one standalone and one PCVR

>>580989747
Unless you want that porn on the go, streaming the files from a network device with more storage is a better use of money. VR porn takes up way too much space unless you start manually trimming everything down to the good parts.

>>580990161
They canceled that anon...

>>580990161
Inexplicably missing from launch.
I didn't expect the audio thing to be there but not selling replacement batteries is ????????

>>580990247
the battery is non replaceable so why would they sell replacement batteries?

>hmm bro you've gotta spend 300 in accessories to fix your quest 3 ur an idiot lmao

>>580989992
It's literally down to how much money you have and how available these headsets will be. If you're just going to be on a waitlist having a headset is better than not having one. However quest 3 has a big list of frustrating factors

>>580990321
what do you mean non replaceable?
it's in the back of the headset and the back of the headset detach off from the front of the headset

man i don't regret my quest 3 purchase now

There's no good reason to get the 1TB?

>>580990394

>>580990492
VR games, VR porn, standalone flat2VR gaming, linux machine stuff.

>>580990492
If you want to play actual standalone stuff or if you're a stupid gooner that plays 30gb rips of JAV erryday.

Slop consumed. I am ready to play VR chat for 2 days before getting bored!

Also signed up with 10 alt steam accounts I had around.

>Half Life Alyx will not be available at launch
>A native version will "ship to customers soon"
LMAOOO
DEI valve too busy working on deadcock

gonna watch Testeds review and see if the fomo returns

yeah let me just replace my battery real q-

Good luck with the lottery

>>580990694
they should shift more resources to deadlock VR has been lost to tranny groomers on vrchat

>>580990583
>>580990623
But for a better price/storage couldn't you use an SD card later on if you really needed that extra storage?

>>580990694
>announce it a year ago
>don't release until now because software clearly wasn't ready
>software still isn't ready
what were they thinking? at this point it would've been better to release with alpha quality software, at least it would've been before altman cucked the world

>>580990694
where is that stated? FAQ says you'll get it immediately

>>580990862
For videos sure but SD Card are slow as fuck for games.

>>580990840
>implying I can even afford it

>>580990928
thats the PC version. not ARM

Anon expecting it to be under 1k btfo.
It was never going to be less than 1k post Altman.

Honestly, it's actually less than I expected. But if you buy the accessories kit, which is mandatory, and something like insert lenses, that might go up to like 1188. Maybe add in tax and shipping, let's say 1200 easy. Which kind of gets to what I expected the price to maybe be.

>>580990973
it's less than 1k in britbong money
checkmate

Wait so i cant play all games because its a PHONE PROCESSOR?

>>580989992
If they have to ask, it's probably Quest 3. I don't think the Frame specs justify nearly double the Quest 3 price for most people.
If you don't care about the cost at all though, Frame is the better headset.

>>580991053
Britbongistan is not a real place

>>580991143
You'd be surprised at what phones are capable of these days anon.

>>580991143
It has an x86 translation layer and also a Quest/Android XR compat layer.

>>580991143
phone hardware can do some crazy shit now desu
this fuckin thing can run some bigger titles, I've seen someone play GTA V on it

im sooooooooo uspet they tried competing with the quest, instead of just making a good pcvr headset

all that money going on overpriced gimmicky mobile phone gaming hardware and memory instead of just giving us a headset with a display port....

this suuucccckkkkkssssssssss

>>580991503
this

we could've dodged the RAM, storage and CPU pricing cartels and just had an Index 2 for this price and had a significantly better headset

>>580991503
being a standalone headset is what makes good wireless streaming, AKA being a good PCVR headset, possible though

Considering it's running an arch based OS and could be viewed as a micro computer strapped on your face, the 1TB does sound appealing

>>580991503
truth nuke.
me right now

>>580989436
to be honest I thought that was how you could stack the deck
I may be stupid

I can't wait for nintendo to come up with some Quest 2 spec headset for 500 and everyone is gonna praise them as being VR innovators.

>>580991503
Yeah this except completely unironically (and for real.)

Guess no more 2 weeks, good luck with the raffle

>>580991143
You can play all games.
Doesn't mean you should expect high fps on newer released titles.

But you would be shocked at how good the phone in your pocket is at emulating some titles made in the past decade with high framerates.

>>580991740
You're never going to believe this.

>>580991634
isnt there somebody you forgot to ask?
typing in VR is pain.

>>580991838
2 more weeks is dead
now it's X more weeks until your turn in the queue

>>580990116
you shouldn't need the router

GN latency comparison

>>580991906
>he can't touch type
Lmao

>>580991503
If they at least didn't drag their feet we would have had it come out in 2024 and not be fucked by memory prices. It being compressed, laggy, and with FBT drifting is lame and gay. Its really the end of VR given that they won't even release a new game to go with it.

>>580992002
Unplayable
literally fucking unplayable

>>580991984
grim

>>580991634
>micro computer strapped on your face
People keep saying this but it's like they never tried doing productivity on a quest 3, is it usable? Sure, but the resolution is too low for it to be comfortable enough.
I have used it as a screen to watch shows and anime, but if I had to choose between it and a 10" tablet, I am choosing the tablet.

Watching ltt review now and gamers nexus right after
Any other review videos worth watching?

>>580992002
Plus the battery life one

We need new slurs for people who fell for the frame scam.
>phone processor
>framelet
>framecuck

>>580992002
wireless apologist bros?...

>>580991984
>Screen door effect in 2026
I get toning down RAM and storage because of costs, but why the fuck are the panels so bad.

>>580991984
oops wrong image
unlock your color DLC for $150

>>580992343
Add more noise and make it lower res to be accurate

https://youtu.be/C9JyWAVj94E?t=484
>microphone downgrade
Yikes

>$1059

>>580992209
holy fucking shit that's unbelievably bleak.
If the battery is that bad, then they should have given it a more proper and durable dongle than fucking usb-c

ITT: poorfag cope

>>580991984
just left the waiting list fuck that

>>580992518
how is it so fucking bad

even hyped linus says it has no wow factor
>it feels last gen
oh god... oh no... this review is brutal
hahahahahahhaahha
what the fuck

So how much were you prepared to pay, and how much are you going to end up paying(or not paying if it ended up above your cut off)?
My absolute maximum was $1600 if I was getting 1TB AND it came with some extras.
But since 1TB is such insanely shit value over 256GB I'm getting that instead for $1210(with VAT included) + ergo kit for $75(unless aftermarket replacements are out when it actually goes up for order), so overall not too bad.

>>580992404
sure thing man

>>580992576
They are already working on a hot swappable battery extension. It was referenced in the FCC documents

>they're surprised that reference Goertek design with custom controllers has all the problems of reference Goertek design

>>580992754
Was prepared to pay $1200 so I guess it's ok.

>>580992754
zero, because >>580991984
and the mic is worse than a fucking q3 lol >>580992518

>>580992209
That's the battery life of my Quest 2 after thousands of hours. I rotate between 2 powerbanks just to play

So does this mean that SteamVR on linux got its big update and is usable? I want to stop using Monado.

does it run vrchat

>>580992209
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

According to the GN video:

>An enthusiast headstrap kit will be launching in a few months with Index style headphones and a hotswappable battery. This will be an add-on kit, not another Frame SKU, so the kit will only include the accessories.

>>580992913
>I want to stop using Monado.
Why?

>>580992913
Linux isn't even usable lol

>>580992754
$800

>>580992209
>80 minutes PCVR streaming
BRUH

>>580992225
Latency is fine

>>580992754
Was prepared to pay this price and I'm going to pay the price.
Get me off HorizonOS hell.

>>580992518
This guy says that he gets about 118 degrees field of view, which is pretty massive. So at least there's that

>>580992938
Yeah but it only runs the android build properly if you want standalone

>>580992879
to be honest I'm not that interested in grooming kids over vrchat so the mic is of limited interest to me.

>>580992518
>not even audio jack
Holy fucking kek.

Yea with the failure of the steam frame vr is dead

TOLD YOU GUYS IT WAS A FOMO PSYOP
I KNEW IT
NONE OF THESE REVIEWERS ARE IMPRESSED

>>580993036
No playspace boundary, screenshots, have to restart it if I forgot to turn on controllers, wayvr is fucked up and has the wrong aspect ratio on my machine, doesn't work with some games like Hitman, no community bindings, no resolution changing on the fly.

>>580992518
Wtf? How? I thought it was literally the EXACT SAME microphones as the Index?

>>580992754
I was a doomer about hardware prices so I had $2k earmarked for it.

>>580993186
but can it run the pc version at a mild potato level?

>>580992518
>>580992605
It sounds like a software issue. The devs who showed off the Frame months ago had no issue with mic quality

Is the battery life that bad?
Never had wireless VR headset before and been tethered for 8 years

I'm literally never going to fucking replace my fucking index, am I?

is this some kind of sick joke

>>580993332
Anon, it's the exact same microphones every standalone headset uses because they come as part of the design from Chinese factory.

>>580993389
It does seem slightly lower than Q3 which already isnt great.
If you want you can either plug in and theoretically that should have no issues charging the battery and let you playing forever, or get a battery you put in your pocket and run up to batteries headset and hotswap those.

>>580992518
I don't see how this is a problem.

You can buy a third party wireless mic and velcro it on.
For color passthrough they sell an official accessory
Speakers+hot swappable battery are coming with the enthusiast headstrap
They sell knuckle style straps for the controllers
You can get another tracker and attach that for syncing FBT

If you aren't poor you can afford all of that and attach it to the Frame with no problem.

So when's the swan coming out again...?

>>580993389
if you were planning on using it standalone at all, the battery life is completely unuseable yes

>>580986761
I didn't say buy, I said release. Of course you don't buy this trash

>>580992754
i was willing to pay $1200, but there is just not enough value there for me to jump at the gun as an early adopter of it
just to get the same features my Q3 has with color pass though i need to pay 2x the price of a Q3 NEW.
and thats also ignoring the other things like ergos and controller grips for sweat etc etc

all so i am forced to use steamvr which is... kinda shitty compared to VDs link interface

>>580993551
You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>580992991
>An enthusiast headstrap kit will be launching in a few months with Index style headphones and a hotswappable battery. This will be an add-on kit, not another Frame SKU, so the kit will only include the accessories.

that will be another $200 + tip, thanks gaben.
wtf is valve doing, this headset should've released 2024.

>>580993625
>unuseable
just like any standalone headset then

What hardware faults can we expect this time? Index had notorious controller problems so we can't trust Valve QA. Quests have had their charging port meltdown so we know standalone isn't safe.

>>580993598
when you aren't poor you buy bsb2 or dream air and get much better quality than this shit

Did anybody confirm wired play like a link cable

>doesnt actually have anything going for it besides head comfort
god damn it, i cant even buy the controllers and use them on another system

>>580993910
>bsb2
lmaooooooooooooooo

And to think I was finally going to replace my index...

god i wish i had lighthouses and controllers to buy a bsb2 over this

>>580994191
IF YOU ARENT POOR YOU COULD BUY ALL OF IT

https://roadtovr.com/bigscreen-beyond-2-price-drop-halo-mount/

>>580994191
you'd be complaining about all the shit garbage you'd have to deal with with that device instead and then lament about how you spent all that money on outdated technology.

>>580993910
Dream air requires : New face gasket, New microphone, and a new headstrap. I put probably close to 200 extra into the $2000 price tag to make it as good as it is for me.
You can half that to get the SE (lol) if you want to compare that, but I imagine it'd feel worse cause the screens aren't peak like they are on the non-SE

I'm on waitlist for steam frame, money really ain't an issue for me but is Quest 3 better in any way? I'm not planning on running anything directly on the VR headset itself (was gonna stream PC to do modded Skyrim VR etc.) should I just get a quest 3 instead?

>>580991993
For casual shit the dongle will be enough but not for high throughput streaming.

My index controller and cable are starting to die so it doesn't sound that bad to get the frame considering it's about the same price as an index

that's it, i'm taking the picopill

>>580994282
well i am kinda poor and it's all discontinued tech now and this is apparently the future of vr..

*looks at my Rift S*
(In robovoice) Fuck you, we are going to suffer together a few more years

>>580994371
yes.
realistically you are not losing out on anything important (besides ERP immersion) from not having eye tracking

>>580994581
who the fuck still has a rift S ?

>>580994480
>years old 30mb indie games on front page for the headset
yeah vr is dead end tech lol
pico4 shall serve me until it explodes and takes my head with it because i said something bad about china

>>580994709
Me

>>580994371
>is Quest 3 better in any way?
No not really, only in the sense of being a way better deal/much more bang for your buck.
Frame is technically the better headset in just about every way though. If money isn't an issue for you then you should go for Frame.

>>580992209
>Literally wouldn't get through an NA anime night without the headset dying
>Can't even hotswap the battery
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Fuck it I'm gonna use my CV1 again instead

>>580994624
>>580994770
Thanks, does foveated rendering just werk? Or is it something that has to be designed for each game to actually use it? Thought it would be a game changer for running crazy looking games and preserving high refresh rates

>mfw I shitpost the frame to discourage other buyers and increase my chances of winning

>>580994772
Use a pocket battery and hotswap that.
Or just take one of those stupid Bobo VR adapter things and velcro it on to the back of the Frame battery (although then you deal with the extra weight)

>>580994480
this bundle would have been 20 bucks a month ago through humble bundle or something
no one is buying these games for 30 percent off

>>580994848
Each game needs it. I imagine that it'll become more common though, No Man's Sky got it.

>>580994848
Foveated rendering has to be designed for each game to use.
Steam Frame uses foveated streaming. This doesn't necessarily help with preserving high refresh rates but helps for preserving high bitrate to where you're looking so streaming artifacts and such should be minimal.

>>580994848
on Q3 it doesnt have eye tracking so no foveated
on frame it (should) just werk
Q pro, which does have eye tracking, it just werks if you turn it on in VD

its really not a game changer in the grand scheme of things

>>580994872
You're not going to win. You haven't even gotten a Tenhou in mahjong.

>>580994480
there is a parallel universe out there somewhere where all the devs that killed vr by putting hardware over software were dragged out behind a barn and had their heads blown off and vr is prospering

>>580994848
Foveated streaming does, but foveated rendering requires the game to implement it and many don't.

>>580994982
...?

>more expensive than quest
>worse than quest
HAHAHAHAHA
LOOOOOOL
LMFAOOOOO
GOD
FUCK
LOOGLOGLOFLGOLOHGLOHJDFKG

>>580995035
I recently bought a new headset. I cannot lose.

Just bought another quest pro, next meta headset will be some XR glass with no controllers.

>>580995081
$150 goy

>>580995081
guessing this is passthrough quality on the add-on camera module. You can see frame controllers in the background.

Fuck you, I'll make my own headset.

>>580995171
>>580995216
Oh okay.
I thought you just wanted to show us a freezed screencap of his kid on his watch for some weird reason.

Damn that's pretty good.

>>580995081
He's using the $150 add-on for most of the video.

Assetto Corsa Server starting up!

server name:VRG EU Racing Club
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For communication we'll use mumble at voice.vrg.party port 64738, as it doesn't need any registrations or logins.
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linus is even bashing the controllers
this is seriously a disaster

>>580994894
>It's gonna be another "you need $300 in accessories to make it work" scenario like the q3
AUGHHHH

wait so the Frame runs on LINUX?????
>using linux infront of vrfu
>vrfu says "alright qt, lets toggle on sps~"
>start furiously trying to type with steam vr keyboard in terminal to install wine
>Errors out of the ass
>the bull is already ready and preparing to fuck my vrfu
>start to sweat, lenses become foggy
>install DPS
>"uhm... what the fuck is THAT anon?" the vrfu asks me
>I tell her its DPS and can do everything that SPS does and its FREE!
>"okay qt... now use the penetrator to put it into my socket" the vrfu says
>I fucking break down and cry and leave the instance
>getting blocked on discord after that

but but I thought the frame was supposed to save VR

why didnt they just make a version that doesnt have being a linux computer as a gimmick, so it could be purely for pcvr. imagine the price difference

what the fuck is the point

cant believe i started falling for the hype im such a fucking retard

>>580994894
You can't just velcro it on the back because the Frame is balanced front and back

I'm glad it's over. We can move on now.

alright with the frame dissapointment i just went to tundralabs and bought a bunch of parts for the index. gonna create the index of theseus

>pay premium price
>still have to be tangled up in cables for audio and power banks like youre using some diy slop

>>580995689
Because the processor needs to be there for video decoding anyway so might as well

My face right now

Finally

Why would you ever buy anything besides a Quest 3?

>>580995689
This was designed in 2021 and basically finished in 2023. They were competing with the Quest 3 and eventually decided to shelve it because the market was dead once Meta stopped pumping billions into VR.

Steam Frame more like Steam Fucked!
Index the best headset of all time!
Looks like I'm holding onto my Quest 3 until the Pico Swan comes out.

Looks like quest 3 + paper trackers is still peak VR.

can we go back to gremlinposting now?

>>580996137
Waiting for frame 2 so I can finally replace my index then.
No I will not fucking buy zuccshit.

>>580995689
because trannies are obsessed with muh STANDALONE for reasons i cannot understand
they want to turn the headset into a self contained console with known hardware specs for devs to develop standalone games on.
they want the steam machine to be the PC gaming and general browsing side, while the frame is to be the console gaming side where you put it on and just hit play.

Now that the dust has settled. Did something happen?

does valve hardware ever go on sale? ever?

>>580995874
Move on to what? There are no big VR hardware releases on the horizon now.
Even Meta is moving away from headsets in favor of AR with their Project Phoenix bullshit

>>580995689
You need a computer to stream 4k. Try streaming your PC with moonlight on a shitty phone.

2 more weeks...

>>580996294
no

>>580996327
Death.

>>580996327
>Move on to what?
To the grave anon.

ALMOST A FUCKING DECADE
YOU WOULD FUCKING THINK
IT WOULD BE BETTER THAN THE INDEX
BUT
ITS
A
FUCKING
DOWNGRADE A LITERAL FUCKING DOWNGRADE IS A LITERAL FUCKING DOWNGRADE OF ANCIENT TECH HOW DOES VALVE FUCKING MANAGE THIS FUCKING NIGGERY

>>580996492
Which part is the downgrade?

>>580996551
Microphone
Speakers
Tracking
Price

>>580996327
No, the pico space pro is the next big one.
Then it's nothing, basically. Maybe a quest 4? but after that that's it.
These are the very last headsets that will be made.

>>580996583
$250 cheaper than a base steam frame.

>>580996693
I'd like to think we had a good run

>>580996327
They still intend to launch a new Quest late next year. I would expect to see a preview of that at the Connect event Sep 23-24.

>>580996492
Over a thousand dollars and you don't even get base stations with it...

>>580996234
Why did you stop?

I don't understand the hate towards lcd panels
I had a CV1 (oled) and an Index (lcd) and found then index to have less issues related to the panel technology like the mura effect that made blacks garbage on CV1

GAY GOBLIN GOT FUCKED KEKMAO

>>580991503
Same. This is really underwhelming for the price. It's not entirely their fault, but that doesn't change that it's not what anyone wanted. Normies will always go for the quest because it's cheaper. The index was the enthusiast option. Yet they've released a quest competitor, at the enthusiast price point. The fuck were they thinking.

Guess I'll get a bigmeme instead once my index starts dying.

>>580996897
because we thought something happened before we realized nothing happened

>>580996864
It’s not a new quest, it’s going to be a slimmed down quest pro with 90 degrees field of view designed for watching movies and sports

So? Whatever happened to these things?

>>580996583
Missing arguably the most important part, the wifi 6e router.
Sadly you'll want half of that stuff for a Frame too. Remember people buying painters poles for mounting lighthouse tracking or USB cards just to get the CV1 to stop shitting itself? VR has always had hidden extra costs.

>>580996294
no

>>580996987
I mean yeah but we knew all this in november

>>580996672
I unironically don't care about any of that.

>>580997150
yeah it's just a meme anyway. The frame will need a power bank at least.
Although it does seem like the hotswappable battery index style strap is coming but just down the road.

>>580996137
Zucced pahjeet software

>>580997234
Then what do you care about?

>>580997116
>fell for another vr accessory vaporware award

>>580996137
Because the modding scene with Frame will be leagues ahead of Q3

>>580996693
>These are the very last headsets that will be made
The market for flight sim and gear and direct drive wheels is far smaller than VR. At worst headsets will just be slower to come out and more expensive. Most of your VR gaming will be mods of flat games. VR is here forever

>>580996327
>>580996431
>>580996440
>>580996693
This but unironically. If the Frame doesn't sell well and revitalize the VR game industry, then I think that's the end for us.
/vrg/ lobbies are
VR will still probably be kept alive as a shambling corpse for VRChat gooners to fuck each other with, but the era of actual VR games will be over if the Frame fails.

>>580997116
this stuff takes so long to release, sloptubers are already doing retrospectives on them months before they even begin to ship hahaha

>>580997116

I guess I'll keep on pypying with an index forever.

>>580997234
price was honestly never a concern. If price was ever a concern for you, you're in the wrong hobby. It's perfectly acceptable to spend a lot of money on a GOOD HEADSET.

has there ever been an updated version of this almost 9 years old comparison pic?
Since we always compare headset for their base price but not if you want to fix their quirks or use fullbody/face/eyes tracking

>>580997490
>Still the same SteamVR interface.
Holy shit will it be tough to use, imagine being stuck on that as the base experience.

>>580997490
Imagine the radiation exposure

how many millions do i need to donate and what company do i need to donate it to if i want to bankroll a vrchat-focused social headset

>>580997403
The Frame will not do well.

It is extremely telling they delayed it 6+ months then released it quietly with no fanfare with 4 year old obsolete technology in it.

Everyone will see the Frame flop and it's already regarded as a weird niche coomer toy and not any actual medium for games. This will be the final bullet in the head.

>>580997403
The frame will sell out but the market will continue to stagnate anyways. 98% of the headset purchases are for vrchat and that isn't going to change.

>>580997352
Screen.
Wireless.
Controllers.
Standalone computer.

>>580997662
big meme beyond

>>580997651
what

>>580997759
So you want a Macbook Pro with a Steam Controller?

>>580997272
I'm hoping bobo makes a strap that works with their existing batteries.

so uh is the eye tracking mod even worth it for the quest 3? FBT is considerably cheaper over that thing.

>>580997902
Router + Dongle + Fluxpose magnetic beacon

inb4 hotswappable index style strap brings the overall weight to be around the same as index

>>580997065
They have more than one project. They were very clear early this year that they were prioritizing making a Vision Pro competitor AND a new VR gaming headsets as two distinct projects while backing away from investing in 1st party game development.

>>580996234

>>580997605
its called vrcompare dot com

>>580997472
This isn't a retrospective it's just a look at long-term usage to see where the pain points are. Honestly having this before you buy something is one of the best things you can ask for with reviews. First impressions are always more rosy than the reality.

HL2VR creator comment on the frame

>>580997985
Been thinking about getting this since it's pretty cheap and doubt I'll have the patience to do save eye modding myself
https://www.papertrackershop.com/en/products/paper_tracker-face-eye-tracking-kit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1kNSviBE2k

>>580997996
It's awesome
I'm going to get superpowers

So Deckard when?

>>580997403
You're being too grim. The asian market is still growing; I think we'll see a lot more chinese headsets, and maybe even a few jap/korean ones. The west however, has fallen.

>>580997903
No, because they would be MacOS and unable to play VR games.

>>580997150
Why do you still need a dedicated router? I thought the dongle would eliminate the need for one

>>580998154
It does compare headset specs, but not the end price when you add trackers, base stations on headsets that don't ship with them, wifi to run pcvr, etc

>>580997528
when are you stepping on me

>>580998229
>it is my daily driver
That's basically saying it's the best headset.

>>580998553
You don't need it, but it has the ability to use it as a backup route to the computer.

>>580998553
It does. You can optionally use a router as well for a dual-link setup but not at all necessary.

>>580998553
dedicated for the quest not the frame.
I'll get a 6E router probably just so there's one less thing to plug into my computer

>>580998276
it looks nice, but its too much for me imo for just face/eye tracking. IMU trackers are an huge change in comparison, but the facial expression is also important.

>>580998718
you forgot the "again"

>>580998802
kek you guys don't know shit if you think a 5W usb dongle is gonna be enough to feed a high bandwidth stream

>>580998959
what makes you think it's 5W?

>>580998959
it's USB3 anon it can use more than 5W

>>580999027
check your mobo specs
i'm fairly certain it caps out at 5V 2A on most

your crown, my liege.

>>580998959
Yeah, there's literally no known way to put video through a USB port in the current decade.

>>580999221
call me when they make a wireless addon

>>580999221
What were they thinking? You have a really nice streamlined VR headset and you ruin it with all that junk.

>>580998746
no its not you fucking retard

>>580999189
Anon that's 10 watts..
Anyway it doesn't need to have much signal strength like a proper home router does, bandwidth is fine over usb 3.1, so 5W of RF emissions (plus losses) is fine to reach... like 2-5 metres away. Its the "My family's router is downstairs and is wifi 5 and is behind concrete" option.

Visible chromatic aberration is already a no-go for me. I refunded games instantly for not letting me turn that off, I sure as fuck wont put on a VR headset with that.

Meta Connect please save me from Valve!

>>580999364
Then why isn't he using the better headset

>>580999603
>why is the HL2VR, a volvo fanboy, using a non volvo headset
wow you know when you lay it out i feel silly.
go spend your money.

anyone else miss the days when all we had were the cv1/htc vive and we were content? and then when the index finally came out it was the most exciting thing ever?

we are never going to experience that again. everything is a sidegrade if not straight up worse than the index (no wireless doesnt count it will always be a meme)

Real AI Fishing NOW! Unironically. Grab the 0.1.2 for your platform from
https://github.com/jebot-git/raifslop/releases/tag/v0.1.2
and point it to server
45.147.228.101 at port 24567
And import your VRM avatar if you want. Has all the tracking support you want, 8 player limit.

>>580999931
nigga what, do you have any screenshots of this

>>580999801
oh you're retarded, fair enough. Makes sense now.

>>580999931
Oh fuck forgot about this still have some work to finish up.

>>580999317
bsb3e slammer with compute puck cause lighthoude is dead

>>581000016

>>580999827
Essentially every Rift owner considered the Index controllers a downgrade.

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/vr-hardware/valve-had-next-gen-vr-headsets-ready-three-four-years-ago-and-they-were-big-bulky-devices-but-went-back-to-the-drawing-board-after-actually-putting-them-on/

FUCK YOU VALVE
GIVE US THE REAL DECKARD

>>580998276
>cables sticking out in front of the face pad

You're kidding me right?

>>580998857
>I'll get a 6E router probably just so there's one less thing to plug into my computer
Measured wireless latency is worse than the Quest 3 unless you're using the adapter >>580992002.

As someone with an index, how will fbt work with a steam frame?
I already have vive trackers and 3 2.0 base stations

>>581001010
It seems highly likely that you could mod a comfier place for the cables to rest with a dremel.

>>581001118
One more tracker attached to the frame itself and use continuous calibration and it'll just work. Probably I dunno how many frames do you think I have

>>581001118
For now, same way it does on Quest, with Playspace Calibrator. However see >>580997490
we will have native soon-ish predicted early next year thanks to component shortages.

>>581001118
you'll be a unicorn until fluxpose, then a unicorn with fluxpose

sad again

>>580984725
Volleyball https://vrch.at/drbvhd92

oh no. oh no no no no no no

>>581001934
People don't play vr for more than 30 minutes anyway because they get motion sick

>>581001802
lol owned again

>>581001802

>>581001934
Not an issue if you have rechargeable batteries to hot swap with and a fast charger

>>581001934
>your vrfu dumps you because you only last 1 hour and 15 minutes

>>581002171
Where?

>>581002171
>pay for an expensive wireless headset
>still mandatory to be leashed up at all times
>now I have to pay for my own leash as well

>>581001934
the human eye cant see longer than 1 hour anyway

>>581002297
>>581002808
Nvm I thought it was controller batteries life

it's not even usb3

>>581000336
Shimakaze my wife

>>581003163
you will be plugged into power 24/7 so you wont be able to use it for data anyways kek

>>581002909
Yeah the Frame has very poor battery life. Two wifi connections has to be a factor. Also that Snapdragon chip just must not be as efficient as the Quest 3 one.

>>581003163
have fun spending hours transferring over your movies

So when are the bobovr headstraps coming out for the frame with hotswap batteries and an extra 300g to add to the weight?

i feel scammed for even getting excited

>wireless headset with bluetooth 5.3 and wifi 7
>using usb to transfer files
???

>>580996107
I'm so used to the right>left format of the original image that this just looks fucked

Easy, just plug the microSD card into your microSD->SD adapter, and then plug that into your SD->USB adapter and plug that into your computer, surely they make some that are USB3.2 compatible nowadays.

>>581003345
>transferring movies

Nobody has space for all that, just stream it

>>581003345
put that shit on a MicroSD and just plug it in bro

>>581003538
Yeah literally just transfer them over the network, stream them or download them directly on the Frame, it's a fucking linux machine man, your options are endless

>>581003538
Literally this
I really don't understand some people. What the fuck is even going into their brain

>>581000773
Very curious about why

>>580996234
mrow

>>581003714
behold

So since the steam frame is complete shit, what should I buy that is meta, samsung, apple, or google?

>>581004990
pico swan

>>581004990
All the other headsets are worse.
I wish I was joking.

>>580996234
sure thing anon

>>580993175
Frame has the most fov since index in a usable headset and no one cares typical vrg

>>581005194
sexing you

>>581005314
the guy testing that had a flat asian face. not even valve advertises a fov that high because it's not a representative result

>>581001010
get a third party gasket with removeable cushions and stick them underneath

Fuck it, I'll make my own headset using Raspberry Pi

>>580949045
Objectively wrong but I think you already know that on some level

>>581005776
Use the Interstellar C61 and hook it up to a smartphone chip. A Pi strong enough to run the screen would run you like $500. You have NOT checked the price of the higher end Pis recently and I can tell.

Still debating on whether I should sign for the 256GB or 1TB list...

>the steam frame is a quest 3 at 2x the price with a worse microphone and battery
>the bsb2e has garbage build quality and is as likely to be nonfunctional and explode in your face as it is to be a mediocre, overpriced headset that "works"
>the quest 3's software is constantly fighting you from actually using the headset for the things you want to use
>the quest pro is a bloated, old version of the quest 3 that only stays in the running by virtue of being the only real headset with face tracking
very grim lineup

>>581006074
The money difference is 2 months of drinking

>>581000016
It's broken on many levels but for single afternoon slop project it's already a working game with somewhat working multiplayer and RVRF mechanics. With week of sloppan it will be ready by next monday.

>it also takes longer to charge because fuck you

>>581003538
>>581004096
source on being able to transfer files wirelessly to it?
tested complained about it in the end of their review stating it being a hassle to transfer files over and there being a lack of media apps to watch things with
>>581004070
its not an open source fully fledged pc, its a proprietary and locked down mobile power vr headset that happens to be based upon linux
everything you want to do needs to be permitted and exposed by valve

>>581006183
It really should not be taking 10-15W from the wall; that's not usb power delivery. If that's what the device is doing; either the PD chip they're using is not doing its job or there's a bottleneck somewhere else in the charging system they just goofed on in a "Just add PD and it'll work bro" and then never tested it. Or it worked but it made the battery too hot or something

>>581006159
more like 2 years for non-alcoholics

>>581001828
Oh. My. Fucking. God. I did not even know I needed this. Imagine licking and sniffing those delicious succulent pits right as Kipfel goes to set the ball

>release a $1100 headset
>white admitting you are never developing another VR game
truly amazing

>>581006317
>source on being able to transfer files wirelessly to it?
OH MY FUCKING GOD IT'S A COMPUTER WITH WIFI
REVIEWERS ARE DOGSHIT RETARDED

VR IS DEAD. EMBRACE DESKTOP

>>581006317
>source on being able to transfer files wirelessly to it?
If you watched the reviews that show steamOS you can see dolphin being used as a file explorer since it's using KDE and in the end it's literally an arm computer running linux that happens to be strapped to your face

>>581006457
its a locked down vr headset, not a computer
tested wouldnt have complained about it in their official review if it was that simple

>>581006627
>its a locked down vr headset
BRRR
INCORRECT
REVIEWERS ARE DOGSHIT RETARDED

>>581004518
Comfort and battery life are the reasons I remember hearing.

>>581006317
>source on being able to transfer files wirelessly to it?
the absolute state of techlets

>>581006183
charging being capped at 10w would imply that it's literally impossible to keep the frame powered while on wire, there's something wrong with this test

>>581006690
we've been over this, if a vr headset with a mobile cpu is a fully fledged computer than any smart phone qualifies as one as well
you cant even get access to the cameras for proper eye tracking on this proprietary headset

>>581006864
BRRR INCORRECT YOU ARE SHOWING SIGNS OF BEING A VIDEO GAME JOURNALIST CEASE USING OXYGEN IMMEDIATELY

IGN reporting the original price was going to be $750.

Doubled the price to try to grab normies (standalone)
Normies will never spend that much on a headset (see apple vision)
Fuck you Gaben

>can connect a keyboard
>can open terminal
>locked
Is this anon's view off portable devices limited to android/iphone?

>>581007026

>>581006864
>muh mobile cpu
stop talking about things you don't understand lol
it being an "mobile cpu" just means software needs to be compiled for arm or run through emulation
it's a linux computer with a terminal
linux has literally all hardware available as files you can read directly from

>>581005991
Can you, as a mortal, even get a development board for the newest Snapdragon?

>>581006317
>source on being able to transfer files wirelessly to it?
How can you be this tech-illiterate?
Even on my super locked-down Quest I can just use wget, or scp, or an http/ftp server to transfer files. Put it into developer mode and it works via adb as well.

>>581007216
Eh don't use the latest; just start a company and get an older one. You put in a request as a hardware dev company for an older one and so long as you pay like $10k for a kit they'll ship you one.

fellow index sissies with duct-taped together headsets... what are we going to do now....

>>581007295
anon id like to remind you that KDE connect exists
i too need to sideload it still.

My vrfu is depressed and doesn't want to get on vr anymore because of the frame fiasco...

>>581007676
The frameasco

This is one of the big differences between quest and frame
Quest is a closed android while frame is open arch
Just look at ukraine is using steam decks for its war

>Where do you think VR?

>>581007991
hearty kek

GABE WE LITERALLY HOUSE YOUR SUPERYACHT AND GAVE YOU A SECRET BUNKER (probably)
Why do you hate NZ?

>>581008056
He moved to Florida sorry.

>You have joined the list for Steam Frame 1TB Kit
how long do i have to wait?

>>581007516
Buy a second roll of duct tape.

>>581008185
two weeks

>>581008185
They tell you in the email, Marzipan

I will get a frame in a few months off some retarded boomer or normalfag that used it once or twice for half the price off or more, just like my Index and Qpro

face-tracking module when

>>581006864
It's not a PC because it doesn't have an IBM-compatible BIOS or a UEFI-compliant ROM.

The real distinction is, does the device belong to you, or did you just pay to use a device that is really owned by some company?

This mostly depends on if you have root access to the device or not.
If you root a Meta Quest and Meta detects it, they will lock your account's access to the device, which effectively bricks you headset because you need a meta account to do anything with it.

If you can root the Frame and read raw data from the hardware etc. without the manufacturer putting up artificial hurdles or fucking you over like Meta, then I'd classify it as a user-owned device.

marzipan like.. marzitan? or no relation

>>581008056

>>581008450
It's rootable. I thnk you can even just load stuff into the bootloader.