Anonymous No.285251514
First for my vrfu
Thread 285250949 · 03/25/20(Wed)18:39:42 UTC · 795 posts, 169 images. Archived from 4chan /vrg/; deleted posts are not shown.
"Virtual Reality, Real Suffering™"
VR swing edition
Introduction: https://pastebin.com/dv65mt8d
Game Recommendations: https://pastebin.com/q7f37tnv
Streamables: https://vrg.party/streamables.html
>Game Resources
VRChat: https://pastebin.com/8S37Vtmi
Guides for Avatars and World Dev: https://pastebin.com/wWD1QMw1
Pavlov: https://pastebin.com/iZJuMXVT
Beat Saber Mods and MP: https://pastebin.com/Vs7JWkyv
Assetto Corsa: https://pastebin.com/2DLfGm98
>Multiplayer Servers
Vivecraft: https://vrgcraft.space/
EU Pavlov: https://sparkleyserver.top/ <-- headpat to whitelist "Gem Server!"
NA Pavlov: https://letmein.pablub.club/ <-- click through to whitelist "Shitposting Addiction Therapy Center"
>Events
Throughout March: Cyberpunk March
1st week of April!: Madness Combat Event
Virtual Reality Lewd General: >>>/trash/vrlg/
Previous thread: >>285124274 (Cross-thread)
First for my vrfu
First for vr grooming cult!
First for I wish I was lovable
First for I miss Faith and Stalkerposting
>>285250949 (OP)
>shitpost OP again
Completed Alyx 8 hours on hard.. I did not even rush the game, looked for alternative routes, scavenged plenty of resin and ammo. How did it take people 13+ hours?!
>>285253535
Yeah, at this point I want the updated pastebins. I do have concerns about discord being used ever but if the guides are fucking eight months old for shit that's actually relevant to my interest, it gets annoying. Not like me bitching openly is gonna stop others from joining, but I just don't wanna join it myself.
OP please be less of a fag. If possible. You're a fag by default for being OP but please stop being a fucking failure.
>>285253535
Are you actually mad about the names
>>285253557
>>285254446 (Cross-thread)
Reminder
>>285254112
>>285253535
the pastebins are updated though
>>285254667
Are they? Naming things like that "nigger" really make it sound like it's updated when the last versions did as well. Fix the goddamn versioning so I can tell what I'm looking at instead of having to read through someone facerolling their keyboard.
>>285254627
Have Valve finally decided 'Valve time' is unacceptable and they must release on schedule, even if it's incomplete? Index was also released on the first date announced and had problems too.
>valve index order began as 2-4 weeks out
>then 3-5 weeks
>then 5-8 weeks
>HL:Alyx comes out
>play with my Oculus CV1 instead and it was just fine
>2 days later suddenly the Index is ready for shipment
Thinkin of cancelling it bros, what do you think? Should I get it anyway or get a nice 4K 120hz monitor instead?
>>285256376
If you have one in hand you could probably flip it for some extra cash given the wait people will have to go through if the Index+Alyx FOMO is too strong for them.
>>285247693 (Cross-thread)
25 minute reminder
>>285256376
i didnt find the upgrade to be worth the 1000 dollars personally, but it gave me easier access to fullbody tracking if you care about that in the future.
It is definitely clearer though, with better audio and microphone, just wish the controllers were better.
>>285256376
Give it to me.
The fucking Lavender developer put his name behind sticking up for Dal, conforming he wasn’t fat and that it’s just a shitpost because the local retard has nothing else on him. What’s funny is no one at all is willing to stick up for the local retard. They were willing to leak that he tried to wrist himself with scissors though, confirming that he is in fact mentally retarded and slow.
>>285256376
Tight is best.
>>285256376
>>285257990
loose with a cropped top is even better
>>285257664
Dal lied about lavender being good, of course June would lie about Dal not being fat.
Also, the fact you guys will go out of your way to defend an actual bully over and over again is pretty pathetic.
You guys gonna keep talking shit about Jelly? When will enough be enough, pyschos.
Manipulative cunt.
>>285257664
>>285257664
>The fucking Lavender developer
lol, now that's some strong credentials. Dal made a positive review for Lavender
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198026428107/recommended/886710/
And anyone can confirm it's trash. The only positive reviews are from June's/vrg's circlejerk.
>>285258143
Agreed. Underboob is best.
>>285258901
I want to get knotted by this dog
>>285259045
This dog is female.
>>285259206
Female(futa)
>>285258532
don't forget that Lavender devs use the VRG discord server and the thread sometimes as an advertisement platform
they are mods in both servers so nobody bats an eye if they make advertisements about the game releasing, going on sale or @everyone when having a stress test
>>285259429
Dal probably wore baggly clothes so it was hard to see the extra 150 lbs
>>285259429
I wouldn't know, I'm not using the shitty fucking botnet with you cringelords.
>>285259334
No. Boat(female(dog))
>>285259669
Boat(female(dog(futa)))
/vrg/er(discorder(nigger(tranny(shitposter(bully(sociopath(jellyposter))))))
>>285259982
Ok schizo
You know what's fucking cringe? Wearing that /vrg/ badge, labelling your clothes with /vrg/ shit, and circlejerking discorders with maps labelled /vrg/.
weird game. half of it makes you wonder why people are so hyped about it, another half makes you uncontrollably giggle from excitement. god, this ending was great, it just promises so much
goddd
I wanna post selfies with "leaderfags" to trigger the local shitposter.
>>285260131
>Why yes, I'm /vrg/, did my badge give it away?
I wanna post selfies with Jelly to trigger the discord shitposters.
>>285260131
>real life /vrg/ flag
Trigger me daddy
>>285260131
This one?
I want to play EU pavlov and jigglepeak to trigger the fragile yuro sweaties.
>>285261208
>>285261378
Americans complain when it's done to them, too.
>>285261518
Left: ugly
Right: cute
When the fuck can I upload my custom avatar to vrchat? I guess because I'm too new it doesn't let me yet? I've just been screwing around with the public avatars but this sucks, I want to use my own
>>285261659
>>285261715
You're still a Visitor, gotta ascend to User, doesn't take long
>>285261984
Any clue how long or if I have to do anything specific? I've made a friend and been visiting a few worlds though I have only like 2 hours into it. but I just feel gross in these freebie avatars when i've modeled my own. Already imported them to unity and everything just doesn't let me progress yet
>>285262332
Rude
This is /vrg/.
>>285262178
You just keep making friends. AS soon as you hit new user, it'll make a little ! at the bottom and tell you "hey you unlocked the ability to do shit"
Make sure you're registered on VRchat itself or else you'll never get the ability to upload shit.
>>285262178
It's a combo of making friends and visiting worlds, not sure it's something you can brute force, though, just make sure you're using the website and not steam.
>>285262578
Too active for /vrg/.
>>285262727
>>285262850
Will it not unlock unless I specifically add friends? don't get me wrong I chat with others but I don't just randomly add everyone to my list, only really added 1 dude since he showed me around a lot. Does it unlock if I just keep playing and not adding anyone? I'll probably be playing the rest of the day on and off but won't be friending people
>>285263190
Nah just keep visiting worlds, either or gains "trust"
>>285263190
You haven't confirmed this, do you play using vchat.com account, not the steam one?would you be my fren
>>285263503
Cool, hope to see ya'll around when i get set up
>>285263549
I made a vrchat account on the site and signed in with it in the game yeah, I'm on steam but not using steam's log in.yes absolutely, though only when i get my own custom avvie set up, this freebie shit is EMBARASSING
>>285263682
Everyone starts off new to places. Although back in the day even new people could upload whatever they wanted.
>>285250949 (OP)
Oops it would appear that....you are a real anon and goofed the OP because of the recent vandalism, no harm no foul.
Introduction: https://pastebin.com/SvQCfk7r
Game Recommendations: https://pastebin.com/fTeGcNWy
>Game Resources
VRChat: https://pastebin.com/fSyGJXxK
Those are the proper pastebins, no telling what the vandal snuck into the modified ones.
>>285262578
wait, it's an app?
>>285263682
>Cool, hope to see ya'll around when i get set up
You can just join us now, you don't have to set up anything. A lot of people started playing after the trust system was introduced, so they figure you're just using a public avatar because you can't upload your own yet.
Some public avatars are also nice, even if most are badly optimized.
>>285264056
Fuck off Yuru
>>285264078
Yes, eastern women are as disgusting as western ones. Glad you stuck to anime?
>>285263682
real talk: you probably won't want to hang out with anyone here unless you like monotone autistics shouting over each other to make the same joke.
>>285264396
And dramatic sociopathic trannies
>>285264501
And 300lbs niggers.
>>285264363
>women
nah I've jacked it to chinese xdresser videos wondering why their faces were so much lighter than the rest of their bodies. I thought it was just make up, but they are actually ugly. That won't stand.
Imagine being such a spergy social fuckup you can't even make it in a 4chan community.
Am I autistic if I go up to every male avatar and attempt to jerk them off?hoping that they take it further
>>285264769
>I thought it was just make up, but they are actually ugly.
just like /vrg/.
>>285264056
the only thing different in these pastebins is that you're trying to shill your faggot discord server to everyone
I fail to see how that doesn't count as advertising/begging
game resources pastebin is the exact same text
>>285264796
I don't have to imagine that feel.
>>285264796
oh so now you're a 4chan community? Damn, could have me fooled.
>>285264796
its almost as if its hard to be as much of a sociopath as you
>>285264396
Why not try to have fun instead of sitting in the corner judging everyone
>>285265060
You still took an anon's hard work and replaced it with your own spergy coping. Stop using this thread like your blog asshole, its ours, not just yours.
>>285250949 (OP)
>>285250949 (OP)
>>285254112
>>285264056
The following links will always have the most up to date information and will be consistently updated with feedback from the thread. Please use these so we can easily update things in the future. These autistic op wars only started because we were working on updating the pastes and it shouldn't be this much of a fight to update links.
https://pastebin.com/usKarzHg
"Virtual Reality, Real Suffering™"
[Lorem Ipsum Edition]
Introduction: https://pastebin.com/SvQCfk7r
Game Recommendations: https://pastebin.com/jDXja2AX
Streamables: https://vrg.party/streamables.html
>Game Resources
VRChat: https://pastebin.com/fSyGJXxK
Guides for Avatars and World Dev: https://pastebin.com/juw6E0pK
Pavlov: https://pastebin.com/rmq9knK3
Beat Saber Mods and MP: https://pastebin.com/4mjtjXYX
Assetto Corsa: https://pastebin.com/GfMAA3GV
>Multiplayer Servers
Vivecraft: https://vrgcraft.space/
EU Pavlov: https://sparkleyserver.top/ <-- headpat to whitelist "Gem Server!"
NA Pavlov: https://letmein.pablub.club/ <-- click through to whitelist "Shitposting Addiction Therapy Center"
>Events
[DATE]: [EVENT TITLE]
Virtual Reality Lewd General: >>>/trash/vrlg/
Previous thread: [THREADLINK]
fixing to try out VRChat so I can get involved in this so called autism. Any tips and things to keep in mind before I join? It just looks like second life in VR
>>285265363
>t. faggot who tries to make it his and his only by making pastebins he can edit later on so he can sneak in discord links
>>285265605
Sure asshole, it couldn't be that some of us are trying to use this thread as a thread, and hold the OP as a resource, not some political statement that takes out resources and inserting personal grudges into it. I would fucking hate to be this egotistical fuck.
>>285265605
The links have been there and accepted for the past two years now. You made no attempt to gather consensus or feedback before changing things. If the thread want's those links gone then that's fine we can remove them. However, it's clearly just one autist raging about them.
>>285266156
>legendary no u card
I hate that this site lets neanderthals in.
>>285266286
Thanks Dal. You narrowed that pretty easily.
>>285266543
Huh, I guess the koolaid ran out.
>let me shove in more personal grudges that will prove them wrong
Thanks for proving the point further?
No really you were scraping the absolute bottom of the barrel and you still failed out. That's embarrassing.
>>285266727
All you are is a walking grudge.
>>285266156
I'm none of those people. I'm not in discord nor do I care for it but considering most of the community is in there anyway it's dumb to remove at this point. It could have been worth fighting at one point but some autist has made that completely pointless by raging over absolutely everything in this general. Literally no point in debating the finer points of 4chan culture and thread ettiquette when someone is smearing shit on all the walls.
This happens every fucking time any update to the OP is attempted. You don't care about any of this you just want to be a shitty troll and make this place generally awful for the people that try to use the general in good faith.
This quarantine got you guys acting a fool. Don't it?
Yeah and I'm Michael jackson and the earth is flat
>>285266904
Sorry you have to deal with this, we have had to try and use this thread with a control freak smearing shit on the walls for years. It's nothing new and asshole who hold no respect for how the site works will always be around.
https://pastebin.com/fTeGcNWy
Another anon was updating the game recs, don't know if he is still around but he was doing a good job.
>>285267225
Dal fuck off to discord
>>285267340
Not in the discord either asshole, and I am not your "snowball" as you recently learned, and spammed that term as you always have.
>>285267225
We were merging updates back into these.
>>285265539
But he wasn't done either. We still needed more feedback on what to remove and what other games to add. That anon stopped working on it though until the OP stops getting fucked with.
You guys sure care about Discord despite none of you being in it.
>>285267759
forgot avatarfagging and signing his posts in the thread
>>285267640
that's only because you niggers aggressively try to drag conversation away from an anonymous platform onto a pseudonymous one
stick to discord and don't post the link in the thread and we don't have a problem
do we have a discord?
>>285267993
Sure thing buddy. I don't use Discord and neither do you.
dal hasn't played his final card yet, the HAHA SCISSORS LOCAL RETARD TRY AGAIN card, we have to prepare ourselves men, how do we fend off his ultimate attack?i suggest a rock to his nigger skull, rock does beat scissors after all
>>285268452
>allow me to prove this anon wrong by venting my personal hatred even more demonstrating this isn't all grudge and butthurt
You got me, darn, I am the man you hate :c
>>285268776
Rock beats scissors dumb nigger bet you jerk off to all the bullying you and your circle jerk do, well guess what people are fucking sick of it, sick of you, sick of the status quo and discord. Doesn't help we're all stir crazy from quarantine stuck here being forced to read your shit.
so in VR chat is there a way to know who is using actual VR headsets with motion controls and who is just some mouse/keyboard pleb? I don't want to associate with keyboardies
>>285269073
>so in VR chat is there a way to know who is using actual VR headsets with motion controls and who is just some mouse/keyboard pleb?
Look at their fucking hands moving?
>>285269472
You can do hand movements with key/mouse it doesn't mean anything
>>285269472
People with desktop mode have their hands firmly glued to their sides. They won't ever move.
>>285269073
I guess hands/head. Havent touched vrchat in months
>>285269073
What a stupid question.
>many people agree with me trust me not just me complaining
>[deleted]
lol
>>285269761
t. keyboard shitter
>>285269573
If you can't tell the difference between hand movements with motion controllers and a mouse and keyboard then you genuinely might have issues with your brain. They're completely night and day.
>>285269834
>Person A has body position tracking that translates all their real life movement to their character
>Person B is using mouse and keyboard and is standing there like a stiff retard
Ok retard your question was stupid try thinking or watching a video about VR first moron dumbass butthole
give vrchat its own general so the discord trannies fuck off
>>285270798
Both threads would die
>>285270798
>split up an already small group even further
You're not very bright
>>285271040
>small
>500
Shut the fuck up, you bring up DURR 500 IN DISCORD JOIN when convenient then ignore it when it's not
Stupid fucking sociopathic fuck
your lies can fool yourself but not us
>>285267225
>>285267569
I'm still here, and I'll get back to work on updating stuff when this all blows over.
>>285270946
this
imagine reporting everyone who disagrees with you and then claiming you're in the right
>>285270946
Imagine throwing an embarrassing temper tantrum like this when Half Life:Alyx is out. One of the best VR games ever is right in front of you and you're still hung up on your own drama.
>>285271120
>implying all 500 are on vr 24/7
Maybe it's hard for an autistic NEET to grasp but people actually do things beyond play games all day.
To follow up on the "numbers station" mentioned at >>285242443 (Cross-thread) :
Looking through the game files, the sound files for the numbers and letters are stored in individual sound clips, see pic related - There is no individual sound clip for the either sequence. The encryption key and any resulting ciphertext are dynamically generated, maybe even unique for each new game. I don't have time to do another playthrough yet, but will take a look come the weekend. If anyone is keen to crack this themselves, record yourself near the (correctly tuned) radio at the start and in the lobby ofthe northern staron the same playthrough. I imagine this should be a trivial transposition cipher so it should be easy to crack.
>>285271364
you know that really is exactly how dal types and argues, it really was him wasnt it
>ships in 2 to 4 weeks
IT'S FINALLY GONE UP A WEEK, AFTER 3 WEEKS.
It's happening!!
>>285271591
This is actual psychosis.
>>285271913
No it isn't, you're just deflecting again, as usual. All you do is lie and deflect, maybe you should be a lawyer like our other local sociopath. Maybe a politician? You could be the second black president, local nigger.
Here's a rock.
Since we're all getting trumpbux I just when ahead and ordered an Index. It says "Ships after 8 weeks" but how accurate is that? I have a feeling they're getting swamped with orders right about now.
photoshop me in
>>285273223
>Lives under a rock
>Doesn't understand how a global pandemic and lock-downs can affect shipping speed and logistics
>>285273223
I've been on that in process order waitlist for 2 months now.
>>285273586
Cool maybe I can play Alyx by Christmas
You fools what have you done. You are going to create an angry schizo sub group. Just imagine them with unlimited IP's and clients. You brought this on yourselves.
>>285273223
>Since we're all getting trumpbux I just when ahead and ordered an Index
don't be retarded anon, we have no idea when we might even get it
fellow vrchads, how do you deal with the HMD cable and the fear of tripping on it thus limiting your movements?
>>285274149
That's actually ideal. There's been plenty of these already. They're always too busy fighting with each other to do anything else. It works out pretty well for us.
>>285265561
>fixing to try out VRChat so I can get involved in this so called autism.
What are you fixing?
>Any tips and things to keep in mind before I join?
When you join us, make sure to tell people you are a newfag from the thread, so they don't mistake you for a rando.
Most /vrg/ things happen in friends+ instances, so you have to know someone of us to join. You can try adding Yuru, make a public instance and post its ID and hope for someone to come get you, namedrop yourself, or hope for people namedropping themselves in the thread for you to add.
People are super welcoming and friendly in VR, don't hesitate to join. You are not required to speak - or do anything, really - but actually interacting with people will make it easier to friend each other.
The different time zones (SEA, EU, US) all have a bit of a different flair to them. The former tend to have smaller groups and are quieter, so it's easy to get noticed. If that's too overwhleming for you, maybe you want to go to the big NA meetups instead, but that can also be overwhelming due to the sheer loudness. But, you'd also get to know a lot of people. SEA watches anime a lot.
You can most easily meet people by going to and participating in events.
Report, hide and, most importantly, ignore shitposting in the thread.
Turn off Safe Space or whatever it's called in the settings. It removes meshes directly in front of you, so people can't headpat you.
Consider turning off all safety settings. Maybe leave in hiding custom animations for non-friends, if you are a pussy.
Having a custom avatar is not required, but almost everyone of us eventually gets one. Don't worry about it at the start, you aren't allowed to upload one the first few days of playing anyways (you'll get a notification when you can).
Public worlds are very different from oher worlds.
>It just looks like second life in VR
Well, we have some SL players that switched over from it, but I don't think it's a fitting comparison.
>>285263682
>>285275906
I just ignore it but I often end up stepping on it and almost yanking the cable out so I should probably look into some kind of solution
>>285275906
I use standing only and wrap it around well off to the side
>>285273223
I'm 90% sure somewhere down the line the government is going to ask for it back.
>>285276308
>>285276359
I've looking this:
https://techblog.steelseries.com/2016/05/11/ikeasavedmefromdyinginvr.html
I'm almost sold out
Let's try this again with updated info. https://www.strawpoll.me/19618490
>>285265269
i was torrenting alyx and i wanted to get max speed and not overload my usbs playing vr shit. Also, GTA is full of cheaters
>>285276243
>Most /vrg/ things happen in friends+ instances, so you have to know someone of us to join. You can try adding Yuru, make a public instance and post its ID and hope for someone to come get you, namedrop yourself, or hope for people namedropping themselves in the thread for you to add.
Oh, yeah, also you can just join the Discord and ask people there. The link should be in the introduction pastebin, if it hasn't been fucked with. If it's not, go back a few threads and use that introduction pastebin.
Also, you can get a public avatar by going to avatar worlds or by cloning someone's avatar that has been set to be cloneable.
And weekends are much more busy than weekdays, and Monday tends to be the most dead day.
>>285277714
Where's the option for "I don't care and just want to talk about video games?"
>>285278120
The official /vrg/ discord is at https://discord.gg/yubucord
Fun little world where 2 team have a time to build their forts before having a snowball fight where you capture the other team's prezzie. "SnowFrot Battle" is the name. The building was silly and fun but the battle was a bit lame
>>285275906
It doesn't take long to get used to it.
This one's a Minecraft world where you can actually mine, gather materials, craft and build things. There's also a creative mode where you can just build whatever.
>>285275906
Install Turn Signal
the main problem isn't it tripping or stepping on it you get used to it and becomes kind of like apart of you like a tail.
The real problem is it twisting up on itself.
Also TNT
World is "VRCM: Build & mine blocks"
>>285277194
i've been looking at buying some badge reels and hanging them on my ceiling, but i already have some fibreglass rod i can try this with
>>285279691
I was surprised that the TNT was fully functional and didn't really effect the performance much
Doing Assetto Corsa in about an hour at 8PM EDT. We'll be doing the Mountain Route track with cars from the base game and Japanese pack. The track mod is in the link below, and the server is up if you want to test mods or get some practice in. Let me know if you've got any last minute car requests before we start and I'll try to get them added.
server: vrg racing
pass: tfwnodriftfu
mods: https://mega.nz/#F!IgMnDK7Y!16gzEjZRZsea9QE3NDQg6Q
>>285279107
Yep that world is good. Closest thing we have to fornite VR.
#Build_bridges_not_walls
>>285280572
I actually remember a VR battle royale world over a year ago. I wonder if it still exists and works, was fun for a little mess around.
The Rec Room battle royale mode is actually decent too.
>>285280572
I played this early NA a few months ago. Shame I didn't take any pictures.
In HL and HL2 the headcrab zombies moans were actual people saying things but it was all distorted.
Does Alyx do anything interesting like that or is the soul actually gone?
>>285282350
I don't know for sure, but it sounds like it to me.
>>285282350
It's the same as HL2. In HL2 the speak backwards, same as Alyx.
>>285282350
It still sounds like cries for help, but I can't be too sure, love the idle animations though.
>>285281115
Recroom BR is actually really solid. It's just a bitch there's no spectator camera or anything.
That feel when drawfag draws a (pure) doujin of your model.
>>285283330
Also, what the fuck is this.
Sounds very intriguing.
Alright anons, it is that time of the week, just like last week, everyone is burned out as fuck. Official lockdowns, businesses closing up, everything is fucked! What anons have done with their free time isn't, Alyx was a blast for everyone, and the models for it should be ripped and available soon. Combines are cool again and everyone has made a ton of models.
http://poal.me/yidr16
Going with a smooth and easy three games, unless somebody would like more. Onward was bugged last week, so if it wins again hopefully we can nail the cause. Not much else to say besides survive everyone, and hang in there, this isn't the first time the world survived a pandemic.
Dm Dal if you want to look to the future, understand the present, and struggle to make emends with the past. Game suggestions would be nice too, we could fit in a fourth game like The Forest on Friday if there is interest.
>>285264902
you'll definitely make some "friends"
>Half-Life Alyx meant to entice people to VR
>Releases
>/vrg/ still full of VrChat trannies and faggots
well that was a colossal failure
>>285283330
>He doesn't know about the doujin(not pure) of kon-chan
Ufufufufu
>>285283827
The normalfags liked it, its flagshipping VR as we speak, it did its job, this thread is still the thread, try to improve it with discussion and you will attract people looking for discussion. Complain and you will scare away posters and get fags.
>>285284040
Lies! LIES!
Kon-chan is pure!
>>285283330
>>285283827
Expecting one game to change the nature of the thread is going full-on retard
>>285278120
Sundays are usually the deadest since people are recovering from the weekend
>>285283827
Isn't that kind of preaching to the choir? Since most have VR here anyway.
Personally I was never big on the HL series anyway. When they release a ep2 sequel I'll check it out though. I can't exactly ply vr games too long anyway because my CV1 cable is constantly blacking out and requires a restart of oculus every ~30min-1hr of use anyway. Last night I had to restart at least 8 times in like a 3hr period. They're getting expensive on ebay (almost nearing 200$) and I want to wait on my tax returns first.
>>285283330
>>285284236
page 2
>>285283827
>Half-Life Alyx meant to entice people to VR
>literally nobody will be able to enter VR for another 6 months because valve is out of indexes
it was a nice thought at least
>>285284114
From the looks of it, looks like everyone else already did all the complaining. Because there's a loooooot of fags here.
>>285284236
>>285284457
Cute, cute, cute! I love how she grabs the dominoes with the sweater.
And thank you for the translation!
>>285284630
>>literally nobody will be able to enter VR for another 6 months because valve is out of indexes
>6 months
I ordered it 17 seconds after they unlocked ordering, I only have to wait 3 to 5 weeks.
>>285285262
Index is a noobtrap.
What you want is Oculus Rift-S or Oculus Quest.
Poorfag option is Odyssey+
>>285285262
make sure to check it, mine kept updating and getting longer and longer for me, then out of nowhere it was ready to go, I'm >>285256376
>Kotaku
>playing VR literally gave me hallucinations for days
>the chaperone bounds were always visible
I think it more likely that he just forgot to take his fucking meds for days. Quality journalism though. 10/10. Not fearmongering at all.
>>285285506
What if VR MADE him forget his meds?
>>285280224
Assetto Corsa is starting now. Server details are in the previous post, voice chat is on Mumble at voice.vrg.party.
Is Creed any good? Just got my Rift S and im looking for some good boxing
Hey so I don't know much about video game history, but can someone explain what's the deal with Carmack? Why does he take so much credit for "inventing" ATW and ASW and why do these pretty simple solutions that any engineer working on the problem would come up with need to have these buzzword terms? He seems like a smart guy but I don't get this vanity
>>285288072
Yep we got a couple of anons that has that game. Single player campaign is short and sweet.
But for any online multiplayer gaming you will have to coordinate with another anon as it's impossible to pick up a match online as it usually hovers at 0 concurrent players.
>>285288072
Yes! I play as often as I have someone to play with. Campaign is a lot different to multiplayer. Much more like a rhythm game than a boxing game. It's good fun though not the only good boxing vr game. Thrill of the fight has much better AI but you can't beat creed for mutliplayer.
>>285285506
Sometimes I "see" the little mic icon in the bottom left of my vision for a brief moment
>>285288408
Because he can turn it into a working product.
Any engineer indeed can make the theoretical for it but they are in no position to use time on solving a problem they can't earn a living wage from.
Carmack is in a unique position of delivering cutting edge products in turn due to his smarts and the resources he has access to and the determination and dedication he can bring to get an actual market viable product.
>>285288693
As an afterimage when you've recently taken off the headset, or just a random thing? I've had cognitive dissonance, but never hallucinations. That said, everyone is different, but kotaku is retarded.
>>285288689
>I play as often as I have someone to play with
Reeeee anon post it here too, wanna punch (you)!
I'm lonely and no one cares about me
>>285288963
Gimme a couple of hours to get through a bit more of Alyx and charge my controllers then we can spar.
>>285288931
It's only ever happened after particularly long sessions, hard to explain, as if for the next few hours my brain just expects it to be there
>>285288828
Ok that's fair, thanks.
>>285288991
have you tried being more likable?
>>285289238
At work at the moment. Need 9 more hours before I can be home. Weekends are easier for sure. Maybe the other anon is ready and wanting though.
I honestly have such lucid IRL and VR dreams that I am now having trouble discerning real memories from dreams.
This didn't happen to me until I bought VR. I've had lucid dreams but VR has done something to my brain. It honestly cured my depression and low confidence I feel like a new person.
>>285290145
I know someone with psychosis and hallucinations but ever since he bought VR he doesn't see the hallucinations and psychosis while using VR.
VR cures some weird stuff.
So it's officially confirmed that /vrg/ don't actually care about VR in general and only about vrchat and lewding.
I looked at the player states of vrchat at the release of HL:Alyx and it didn't affect the players online AT ALL. This just goes to prove that vrchat faggets either are desktoppers or people that don't give a shit about VR but just lewding and social interaction.
Also at launch a bunch of /vrg/ discord drones just watched their leaderfags play minecraft and vrchat in the voicechat.
I'm 100% sure that 75% of /vrg/ actually doesn't own a VR headset and the discord should take measures buy asking for a picture of your headset before you can join.
However seeing as the discord is just feminizing cult that don't care about VR, I don't think they'll change anything.
Reminder to brush your teeth
>>285290443
There were 60 people on my friends list alone playing HL:A yesterday fuck off faggot.
>>285290443
I was too busy playing Animal Crossing
>>285290443
>Using the whole VRchat population and acting as if those represent the /vrg/ VR enthusiast demographic.
I think you have some lost braincells.
There's also the point of new people getting VR will be trying VRchat as well. So the influx of new headsets and VR goers will bring some new blood in VRchat to check it on other times too.
290 lbs fat nigger
>>285290908
I’m sure if you asked everyone in the discord only half or less could prove they have a VRheadset. With the amount of people in meetups and Pavlov there is probably even less.
>>285291548
>my evidence is just trust me bro
How retarded are you, do you really think people join a discord called virtual reality general and the majority aren't there for virtual reality? What the fuck is wrong your brain dude.
>>285291984
You don't need VR to play Virtual Reality
Is he virtually retarded?
>iS hE vIrTuAlLY ReTaRdEd?
I think he's just locally retarded
FUTURES
MADE OF
LOCALLY RETARDED
>>285291984
>do you really think people join a discord called virtual reality general and the majority aren't there for virtual reality?
Yes.
>>285291984
Not in the discord myself, but I kind of get what he's saying. Being there for VR and having VR are two separate things, a lot of the people who join because they're interested might end up losing interest in buying one but stay anyway since they can still play VRChat with everyone.
>lOcAlLY rEtArDeD
Look at me I am a bully! I bully people on the internet! Bleh BLEH BLEH!!!!!!
fat seated mode 290 lbs leaderfag nigger samefags and falseflags the thread once again as the local retard scapegoat, jesus of the thread and antichrist of the VRG hrt desktopper shill suicide cyberbully irl sex feminization cult server
>>285290443
You can create your own avatar in vrchat and have a full body avatar instead of just 2 hands flying in the air. Of course it’s gonna be more popular.
>>285293387
Could you please keep it to 2-3 buzzwords max per post? It helps with readability. Thanks.
>>285293207
Alright then, lets break this down.
-Timezones
-Work Schedule
-Interest
I show up to EU, NA, and late NA times, and SEA infrequently. Almost every name in the botnet, I have either played Pavlov, VRC, or another game with. How can I verify this? Screencaps, videos of pavlov, and personal experience. If you want to invade everyone's privacy, I could compile a list of all of the anons I know to have VR, I won't because fuck you, you are believing some piss baby anyway whats the point. They are spread across many timezones with conflicting schedules, but we have a %95 VR ownership rate. Saying otherwise shows up hilariously out of touch this fag is, and if anything, if they even play VR.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/671403/global-virtual-reality-device-shipments-by-vendor/
If you want a website, doubting VR headset ownership is almost a joke, if they have a computer, hang around other virtual reality owners, they statistically own VR.
>>285293956
shut the fuck up dal290 fat nigger
go back to trying to sign yourself as the leader of VRG on that gay ass vrchat faction roleplay group
>>285293956
seething
>>285293956
What is this incompetent autist even spewing?
Are you the same retard that argued about statistics like a sperg?
>play half life alyx
>have a black 1911
>"neat they must have changed it"
>watch other people play
>they have a grey 1911
is it just random
HL:Alyx story questions and potential heavy spoilers, please only check if you've finished the game.So, the ending, where G-Man tells Alyx that they need to replace Gordon because he's "Unable" or "Unwilling" to work for them... What's what about? Did he not do everything they wanted?The ending, with Eli handing you the crowbar and having "Work to do", presumably that's Get back Alyx from G-man, right? Which sets up G-man and his employers as the adversaries of the game, which is unusually front-and-centre for them from what we know.I just can't shake the feeling that, as much as I enjoyed HL:Alyx, they're going to commit fucking lore murder in whatever HL3 is.
What are your thoughts?
>>285295502
No one cares about you HLfags go back to V unless you came here for Vrchat drama and lewding.
>>285294256
You did that gay shit too, scissorsboy.
If I have a base avatar that already comes with a unity package file good to go, can I add clothes, edit the avatar, etc etc in unity itself? or do I have to take it to blender then import it back to unity with the changes?
>>285295502First part; he's talking about Freeman being freed from his control by the vortigaunts in episode 1.
I wish the game had MORE clutter without crashing or physics going crazy. I love when environments have all manner of random shit in it, because that's how life is. The moments where you brush a bunch items past to get to ammo or resin is super immersive, but there aren't enough of those moments, and most compartments like drawers and cabinets have little in them.
>>285297258
Yes you can add clothes in unity as long as they have their own weight paints.
Japanese booth models have a lot of these wherein the clothes are made so that you can slap them on unity and even have their own unity add-on that is a cloth changer.
>>285298017
t.packrat
Oops, i forgot it was Wednesday; School Rumble hapen in Vrchat in one hour (11 est , 8 pst) , will post link to join off of
>>285298528
I keep my spaces clean. That doesn't mean others are. Especially in crisis situations, I would not expect the people to prioritize organization.
>>285300272
Fuck off and die
>>285298017
I feel you. The clutter is a ton better than boneworks, but it wears a little thin after a while. Same with the environments in general, you start seeing the same kitchen props and hallways and stuff, though again it's far better than any other game I've played so far.
It's been interesting going to the maps in vrchat where anons have scanned in their rooms; Even though it's all blobby and low-res, the sheer density of clutter even for "clean" rooms really makes it apparent how much further you'd have to go than alyx for realistic levels of clutter. Probably need some level of procedural generation as well.
>>285300830
No, no, no. You should've posted that "I was merely pretending to be retarded" image, because that way you are punishing him for both doing something retarded and/or merely pretending to be retarded, while right now you are not considering the latter option.
>>285301206
>>285301362
Too weak, just too weak.
>>285301127
From my memory, I'd say Deus Ex Mankind Divided, out of the games I have played, beats HL:A in clutter and unique items in the environment, however I don't remember how much of it had physics, so HL:A might be better in that regard.
i rigged something out of a fibreglass pole and electrical tape like >>285277194 , it worked great although the pole is a little rigid compared to the reference. 8/10, would recommend
Reloaded my game to fix a bug and this happened.This game is too scary for me
It's over! I enjoyed it. Like others have said, the grabby hands are the best part of the entire game. Everything else is basically 2017-tier mechanics with all the rough edges polished off as much as possible. It's not the absolute best in immersion, but it all serves the story well enough. Smooth turning in the new update is an improvement. Teleporting around is still necessary for the firefights unfortunately, and is probably my least favorite part. Jeff level was great, though it was just at the edge of 3spooky5me. The rest of the game was spooky, but not as horror or jumpy.
Spoiler impressions:Zoo level was really kino. I would've liked to see an antlion guard fight like nova prospekt in there. At least on normal difficulty, the regular antlions were pushovers, I remember them being faster in hl2.Annoying puzzles: that door with 4 locks after the antlion open fight. the 3 cranes with the pipe; somehow I fell off one of the hanging pallets and was in the pit, totally dark, but I didn't die so I had to restart.The green energy bolt attack level wasn't as satisfying as the super gravity gun level hl2. The motion you make didn't feel right, and tossing grenades down the hallway was kinda meh too. The walking (teleporting) simulator with the spooky flipped hallways and ghosts was kinda meh too somehow. I was expecting a puzzle at least. The "boss" fight with the big gun and the strider was merely okay as well. I feel like the first half of the game was a lot better than the second overall.Felt bad getting to the last upgrade station and not having enough resin to upgrade anything.
>https://www.linkedin.com/posts/alex-cho-52324513_vr-activity-6648019232455999488-m-xW
Interesting, so it looks like the prototype name is Rhodium while the product name will be the Reverb G2. The original Reverb's prototype name was Copper. I wonder if there's any significance to these names being those elements.
>>285302324
>headcrab jumpscares in vr
maybe I don't want to play this after all...
>>285290620
I see that toilet paper in there! GIVE!
>>285303401
Not him, but I was pretty worried about being able to make it through too since I'm really bad with horror stuff. I feel like it doesn't really hit you with a lot of jumpscares though, and it builds up the horror gradually enough that it's never really overwhelming.
>>285298895
School Rumble starting! ep 14-16
clic link to join:
https://vrchat.com/i/cough-clamphannah-73ab5
>>285303787
>>285303401
It's actually just a survival horror gameThe worst parts are the dark parts where you have a light attached to your hand and when you grabby hands something you can't see the headcrab sprinting at you at 200 mph
I feel like I should be more scared but I didn't end up being scared at all. I something wrong with me? I played Dreadhalls, and for me that was legitimately scary. Somehow HL:A never actually scared me. HL and HL2 was never scary to me either.
>>285304057
I already found your stash. Be a shame is it got wet. you really should hide it better
>>285304057
oops
>>285304552
Soggy... Wet wipes...
Why did we get armored headcrabs/armored zombies instead of fast headcrabs?
I like how they went full on with the image ofGordon being a glasses badass that does the adjust glasses move.
>>285305136
It's a slower game than the others, so it makes sense.
i am locally retarddeeeddd~please be my vr friend
But can these weapons be ported back into VR?
>>285308673
dm me
>>285308923
who is you?
>>285308730
why would you want to? they all had awful cone bullet spread that made the original HL2 VR gunplay unpleasant, they won't be any better today. Alyx guns are at least modern vr guns in how they handle.
>>285309271
HLA guns have pretty godawful spread, it says something that the only really "ranged" weapon is the pistol and even that is not all that accurate.
>tea cup grip again
Why do they keep doing this? Surely people would have learned by now, or are the old guys gone now and it's zoomers doing the animations?
This is your vrfu for tonight, say something nice about her.
>>285312273
This isn't my vrfu. Mine is cuter.
>>285271557
https://www.reddit.com/r/ARG/comments/fou9fq/possible_arg_hidden_in_halflife_alyx/
dunno if youre the same dude i've already replied to that told me a similar thing
but if you're not, here's the shit going on for now
ive posted recordings
and also the discord link posted in the thread is very interested in it, but seems like theyve gone to bed since i posted the recordings
yes im a redditor, you all called me a valve shill for posting originally so i moved on
>>285312423
oh, also someone did a high pass of the intro radio recording that i can share, its easier to hear the numbers in it
>>285312273
Jesus, what an ugly cunt, fix your fucking face
>>285312273
Stop being a shitty TDA edit
>>285312273
Ugly bitch ain't Monika
>>285312273
lol flat bitch i hope her dad starves her some more
>>285313901
There is nothing wrong with being flat.
>>285312273
Me and your vrfu:
>>285314478
Flat=Failed female. Just like how a small dick is a failed male. Both lost the genetic lottery.
>>285315283
False.
>>285315283
Uncultured swine.
sometimes i think about using a cute anime girl avatar but then i masturbate and feel better
>>285315283
flat is justice
I made a meme. Are the types of enemies still considered spoilers or should I post?
>>285316547
post a spoiler image
>>285316547
Just be sure to place a spoiler tag on the image I guess. But I personally won't be opening it till after a few days of finishing Alyx.
Only having 2 hrs a day of freetime sucks.
>>285316645
>>285316660
OK.
Well I guess you're getting the HD version in streamable form instead.
https://streamable.com/i5qvo
>>285304051
thanks for coming frens, ep 17-19 on sunday
http://archive.is/RglO9
coronavirus bill passed unanimously in the house and senate boys. time to buy your index or FBT if you dont have it
>>285278120
>>285278932
Discord is NOT VR games, fuck off
>>285250949 (OP)
god that looks fun
>>285289401
I'm perfectly likeable, it's hard to be liked though when a sociopath is jealous you're too likeable and ruins your reputation because they can't stop spreading rumors, it's called bullying.
>>285289401
have you? you sound like the type of asshole that thinks he's popular but everyone talks shit about you behind your back.
>>285290443
>Finish HL:Alyx in like 7 hours small game
>Wow small game
>Get on VRChat when done
OMFG HOW COULD THAT HAPPEN
>>285290620
isnt it funny how you're making a shitpost at jelly and it turns out you were memed on hardcore
>>285320494
yes tiuku told us how he finally convinced you to start brushing your teeth
>>285295068
I don't really know.
>>285293387
you know whats funny? this is actually true
>>285319970
I've seen it happen. I hope you find a way.
>>285320067
I wouldn't be too surprised if true. I haven't figured out why people seem to like me.
Anyway I always feel flattered when people invite me or ask to be invited, if you're lonely you should reach out to people you like and speak your heart to see if they're really there for you. How else to find a way out?
>>285320590
they havent dated for like a year you retard
>>285319970
You sound like an upright bitchy bitch boi.
People will form their opinions of you from their own interactions with you and a bit from friends they trust.
There is no way that a single person can turn your whole reputation and ability to make friends to dust. Own up to the things you've done and actually try to apologize and seek forgiveness and then maybe people will like you again.
>>285323406
bully
>>285320590
stop namedrops and lies
>>285324437
dont bother, they wont stop
>>285324437
Who the fuck even are you
>>285325008
tiuku
>>285325063
Sorry i don't associate with faggots
>added at least 4 or 5 friends
>have a vr chat account
>played like 8 hours of vrchat today alone
>still visitor status and can't upload my own shit
This is fucking balls
>>285325432
who are you?
>>285283827
The game introduces 10-20 hours tops of enjoyment to your VR purchase. If Valve is serious about it they're gonna start dropping info about SDK. They probably aren't.
Welcome to City 17, why don't you get a job?
VOX MACHINAE ADDED BUDDY SYSTEM AND PERSONALIZED ICONS
VR IS SAVED, IT'S SAVED.
>shuten douji avatar
>calls me pedo
you kidding?
>>285327365
What's a buddy system?
>>285328142
You can add friends in-game and icons on the radar are personalized.
That's it
>>285327627
i mean she is very cute and funny tier
>>285328602
But there's no one to add...
>>285328769
I still get in my mech sometimes, I can add you.
>>285328630
they called me pedo for calling her loli
>>285329127
I mean technically *adjusts glasses* Lolicon is just Japanese for Pedophile. Prove me wrong.
>>285329216
back 2 english 4 likes anime loli
I FINALLY BEAT BEAT SABER AND LIFELIGHT ON EXPERT+ IN BEAT SABER
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
vrchat is still on 2017 lts
you have been reminded...
Would a 970 + 16 gb of ram be sufficient to run most VR games? I feel like I need to upgrade before I make the jump
>>285330527
Run a VR benchmark test, bro.
>>285330527
consider that your cpu will be used heavily as well
>>285330527
It runs Alyx fine on low, and honestly it doesn't look bad at all, believe it or not. It may be because I'm blind and can't fit my glasses into the headset. Whatever.
>>285330812
>I'm blind and can't fit my glasses into the headset.
I know this feeling all too well
I have an rx 580 4gb and odyssey plus with the pirated goldberg version of alyx. Alyx can have really low fps in the menus or when you try to switch tools and guns and the hologram pops up. Also is it ok i add the pirated alyx to my steam and launch it from there?
>>285332469
What kind of enormous frame your glasses must have to not fit?
What HMD do you have? Mine fit fine under Rift S but I couldn't stand discomfort and ordered vr lenses, -3.75 instead of -4 which I have on glasses because it was cheaper (61 euro total), thanks to close focus distance things are still sharp, at least until I lose even more eyesight.
>>285330278
The 2018 on the beta branch has updated to the release version, vrchat will update the public branch to 2018 very soon. Make sure all your worlds/avatars have been migrated.
Also the new network IK is great.
>>285332872
They fit, it's just really uncomfortable and I'm too cheap too bother with those lenses because I can see good enough for VR Chat
>>285319261
The House did not vote on it yet.
when do I get my VR legs guys
I can't play with my vive for any longer than an hour tops without having to stop before I puke
help
>>285333634
My apologies. If the Senate passed it 96-0, then the House sure as hell will and are expected to this morning in the US.
>>285334138
Keep doing what you're doing. Stop when you feel bad, don't try to push through or you'll turn yourself off vr for years.
>>285334138
Just take it chill and enjoy yourself, like all things it comes with time. Get acclimitised to VR using games like beat saber, space pirate trainer, etc where you're mostly stationary, and then slowly move into games where there's movement. The other anon is right though, don't force yourself.
>>285334138
I've heard ginger can help with motion sickness but generally just play as much as you can and stop when you feel sick
>>285334653
oh yeah, ginger and drugs work too. Alcohol or otc motion sickness medication.
>>285334140
No. Pelosi probably wants to make it better. The senate gutted that shit.
>>285295502
>pocket dimension theory
>>285335901
The Democratic leaders in the House want to pass it. Get ready for more people to buy VR
>>285335901
>pelosi
>improve anything
Yes, 500m to my lobbyist slush fund, another 100m to this museum my cousin owns, 200m to to demikin immigrants
What do you mean, emergency aid bill? These are emergencies!
>>285330527
Yes. That's exactly what's on mine
>>285334138
is it og vive?
>>285336349
It’ll get revised and have to go back to the senate
>>285338558
Republican leaders are also recommending a Yes vote. Just let me have this anon. I want to believe I want FBT.Allow me to be disappointed when I wake up
HL:A is very nice looking and a manages to be HL in vr. That said there are several narrative games better including Boneworks, Lone Echo and Stormland. In HL:A you never really feel like you are outdoors, it's a series of tunnels and small rooms, The open areas have a definite matte painting feel. The limited interactivity is made worse with the item hunting making sure you look under every box for resin. Despite there being pipes and shovels lying around, there's no melee. For some reason, npcs run and hide behind counters to talk to you.
>>285339098
>boneworks
ehh, not as a narrative, nor a game
a better toybox, though
>>285339098
Graphicsfags already want to stone me in the streets but it feels kind of flat. Like the envoirments are laminated. Characters and enemies look good, but they're also stiff and weightless. There are very little decals and envoirmental damage, it's the least replayable Half-Life game in my opinion.
God I wish they made a multiplayer shooter, Left 4 Dead, Counter-Strike, anything.
>>285339817
Agreed, I'd be more excited to get a Boneworks SDK than HL:A's. It feels like there's much more potential in Boneworks, even though the game is lame as fuck.
HL:A feels like a PSVR game.
Okay I don't want to be a downer, but if you can't afford fbt, is it really sensible to buy fbt with this money?
You're in the middle of a worldwide pandemic and economic meltdown and you're so close to the line you can't afford a ~$500 luxury, so maybe if you suddenly get that much money you should hang onto it tight or put it into something essential to survival.
>>285339817
>a toybox is a game
Half-Life is a much better original sci-fi story and compelling to play through but it isn't really more than follow the path to the next area. That's all Half-Life ever was I guess and it stays true to it. It's amazing they were able to pull this off in a year but it's not the best anything.
>June tries to get more pitybux by telling everyone his mom got corona
Yikes Lavender yikes
>>285339932
Boneworks is just a barely strung together unity project; I'm way more excited for HL:A's SDK because it'll actually give people assets to make things that look and play good.
>>285340003
Fuck man, do what you want, it's a 500$ VRChat DLC. If you don't feel disgusted by the idea of buying such a thing, it's probably your last chance to be truly happy before society collapses and you're forced to live in a real world.
>>285340091
Evidence?
If so, that pathetic and people already know it's a scam only Dal and other people June has sucked dick on supports it.
>>285340610
Search “mom” in discord to see for yourself. He’s even trying to say he might have it too.
>>285340779
>He’s even trying to say he might have it too.
Perfect time for a IRL meeting then.
>>285319261
>http://archive.is/RglO9
All these happy lovey-dovey quotes from Mitch Turtle McConnell means this article is definitely biased and not to be trusted until a more independent source can be found.
Did the proviso that prevented Trump from teabagging the slush fund money into all his properties and businesses stay in? How much is the check? A one-time $3.50 check from the federales when the US is gonna be shut down for *at least* two months isn't gonna do it and is just spitting in our face, which is exactly what I expect from McConnell and the Senate, especially given that it passed unanimously.
>>285340601
We should find another way besides strawpoll and poal.me to conduct polls. Even if they weren't riggable at all, the poll type isn't conducive to useful results.
Those polls aren't hammers to nails, but... fruit loops.
>>285324437
Oh, are we cool with just doing bodyswaps for Cyberpunk March? I thought we were going to actually put effort in
>>285341079
Pretty sure that's been his avatar for months, and barely anyone has a cyberpunk march avatar anyway.
>>285341079
I still want to see outfit swap day, where you pair up and try to recreate that person's outfit
>>285341148
Yeah it's a bit of a dead event. I wonder if that's due to the game being delayed, killing a bit of the hype, or if it's more due to the difficulty of making a high-quality cyberpunk avatar? can't just throw a few deviantart items onto your model from unity and such
>>285341435
that sounds like it'd hurt a lot of people's feelings and make them feel like a loser
let's do it
>>285341435
That'd be interesting maybe, but I think Elemental Waifu event has more potential if people put literally any effort in with shaders beyond autistic anime/toon shaders
>>285341507
since it would be pairing up it wouldn't be a popularity contest with everyone trying to do Yuru or whatever.
durrr let me add you
wait
did you say HL alyx sucks??
IM UN ADDING YOU
newfags are tard
>>285341649
okay, how do you suppose we pair people up?
something with the botnet? not everyone's in there and even if people have to sign up many won't follow through
people choosing their best friends? a lot of people here are autists who wouldn't be able to ask and would silently seethe when the person they like is chosen even though they didn't do anything, plus if more than one person asks they'll have to pick favorites
>>285341864
Maybe they unadded you because they didn't like your shit personality. If they brought it up you should be able to say "nah I haven't played it and I'm not really interested" instead of going off on a tangent about how it sucks.
>>285341479
I just completely forgot about it. Not enough promotion.
>>285342048
retarded liar
Manipulative cunt.
>>285341872
Gonna pre emptively ask someone if we could do outfit swap event, if it happens.
Don't want him being taken by anyone else...
>>285343105
you could just do it without an event
>>285342934
thanks decimated
Beat Saber has just been updated with a new music pack, and all mods are broken again.... I just want to play some of my favourite songs bros...
>>285343849
>Timbaland
Literally who
>>285344114
Imagine Dal but as a rapper and music producer.
>>285345706
Based?
>>285275906
Cable-winder in the ceiling.
>>285275906
Suspend it high enough that it doesn't touch the floor.
>>285345706
lmfao imagine dal as anything but 90lbs and a niggger is funnyy
>>285350797
>90lbs
Wow he's lost a lot of weight.
Good on him.
>>285350956
damn sorry i typed 290bs i didnt mean to make you excited
>>285350956
I would be incredibly concerned if he weighed that much. That's extremely underweight. Probably be like the prisoners during the holocaust.
>>285351664
There is at least one /vrg/sie who weighs approximately that much.
>>285351717
Unless that person is small (<150cm or 5ft~) they are probably skin and bones
>>285350956
Just like my nigga Timbaland.
>>285351987
they are that small
they're male too
>>285351717
>/vrg/sie
stfu k3rnn u schizofuck
>>285351987
>>285351717
>>285351664
290lbs nigger
>>285352081
>a manlet
My condolences to this /vrg/er
I am proud to be 5'5 and male
/vrg/sissies
>>285352847
literally me
Please stop height shaming me
little drama bitch
>>285353290
you people heard this just now? who said that? i can't see anyone
>>285353290
I'm not. You can adjust your height in vr so no one notices. However, society will whether consciously or unconsciously.
>>285353724
joe
In VR, being tall is a absolute disadvantage and the shorter you are the larger your playspace effectively is. Imagine not being able to swing your arms above your head or step around that corner because you might hit your ceiling fan or kick in a wall.
/vrg/ enjoys a presentation on how to take over the world
>>285354832
does this count as a double dose
So how exactly do people switch to crawling/laying down positions in VR chat? It's like a snap motion but I don't have that in my emotes
if your position in your playspace gets low enough you enter the prone position, which is that weird "you should be holding a gun while crawling" position.
people simply replace that animation with a laying down animation and move their playspace to trigger it
>>285355797
whoops, meant to quote
>>285355594
>>285354823
>see some tall af pavlov character
>think to myself "that hitbox doe"
>>285355797
>people simply replace that animation with a laying down animation and move their playspace to trigger it
How do I do these things? sorry, kinda new
>>285356062
it's the slot in the avatar controller called "proneidle"
vrchat has one it uses by default, but if you stick your own in there, it will use that instead. it's the same as with gestures. just drag and drop your animation into the slot.
>>285355594
Are you asking as a desktop user?
>>285356290
Oh, cool thanks. If only I knew how to get new animations though
>>285356779
Not them but I'd like to know as a desktop user, just for giggles
>>285356831
try mixamo for animations. or try making your own. Again it works just like a gesture because it's an idle animation iirc so you can make it static.
or maybe someone has some lying down animation they can share. ask around if anything
>>285357129
cool, thanks!
>>285355594
For desktop users, it's C to toggle crouch, and Z is to toggle prone on a typical QWERTY setup. I was one until a bit ago and as a result I remember the gesture keys as well.
A lot of these are actually outlined on VRchat's site for how to play with KB+M.
>>285360898
sick art bro
>>285360898
awoooooooooo
Don't forget to pack up your Miku after you have finished using it
>he has an avatar
bro just be doghead suitman
>>285362056
no
>>285352847
make me~
>>285361907
Back into the closet with the rest of the onaholes it goes
It's either Thursday or Sunday!
EU Pavlov Shootymans in 28 Minutes! (1900 UTC)
Join the community server: "Gem Server!"
The server has an IP whitelist, whitelist yourself by going to sparkleyserver.top
Don't let yourself get rusty by playing easymode valve games!Headpat people when you join anyway
Tonight.... (you)
>>285250949 (OP)
>>285368569
*SNIIIIIIIF*
>>285367428
FUCK completely forgot. Joining now.
>>285371794
remember to record streamables tranny
>>285372091
Post OC, goblin.
>mfw finally starting to understand Blender and Unity somewhat
>>285372750
fuck off newfag, nobody cares about your 2018-tier adventures.
>>285372750
Good shit my dude. Whatcha making?
>>285372750
Ganbatte. I remember doubting I'd ever manage to get a custom avatar in game. It's easier than you think.
>>285372750
After you get it, you gotta work on workflow and then optimizing it
>>285372750
Just wait until you get FBT for your waifu, you'll be a mirrorfag in no time
>>285372750
I love seeing people have it finally "click" into place, once you understand the fundamentals you get to have a lot of fun playing around with stuff and making cool shit
>>285373118
based
>>285373302
>>285373303
>>285373315
>>285373418
>>285373532
cringe
>285373710
Fuck off local retard
>>285373752
Never global menace
>>285373418
whats a mirrorfag
>mfw vrtards are getting btfo'd by flatscreen modding community
But you guys probably don't care. You only care about Vrchat drama and grooming.
>>285373118
it's not 2018
>>285374251
retard who spends his free time staring at his own avatar in a mirror.
Majority of VRChatters. They're inviting you to become a VRTranny.
>>285374251
Someone that stands in front of a mirror all day looking for issues in their avatar
>>285374318
Oh shit, the coombrain has spoken. It's sentient!!!
>>285374290
why in the world would i be against flatshit anons having their share of fun? i'm not a sociopath or anything, i want everyone to be happy
>>285354823
I've shoved my hand (and index controllers) into my fan at least 5 times now, and turning off my fan results in my small room filled with electronics getting very hot
fbm
Is feminizing young anons in VRchat with sissy hypnosis considered as grooming?
>>285374950
Only fags fall for the VRTranny jew. Real men just put their shit back in the drawer/eBay because nogames.
>>285374950
I don’t know.
Is inviting a mentally unstable person to a discord filled with pedos and psychos that push you to put on stockings and post leaks your own cock, balls and personal address on the Internet considers grooming?
>>285374757
buy a floor fan
Will we ever get a good multiplayer VRFPS?
>>285375458
I don't know, I've never doxxed my pets, even though I know where they live to send them VRpills
>>285374290
>mmm me play game in inferior way me win
fuck off back to /v/
>>285374950
yes.
there can be very serious legal repurcussions if you do anything even remotely sexual with an underage person anon, and internet communication is federal grounds so its 18 no matter what state law says.
>>285376538
They are all 18+
>>285376685
that sounds boring
>>285376685
then why would you ever wonder if its grooming? grooming is entirely a term for taking underage people and prepping them to hop your bones
>>285376753
So I don't have to worry about feminizing them and making them take VRpills?
Nice
>>285375913
Maybe Medal of Honor in June~Summer. Not holding out hope for it and don't particularly care.
>>285374950
>>285377006
>>285375916
You know you guys a shitposting but deep down in the vr rabbit hole all of this shit is happening and you to an extent wants to be part of it.
>>285377006
there might be problems if coercion is involved, also dubious legality of vrpills
@285374290
>a donut
Hmm, I wonder who could be behind this post. I'm sure a compelling discussion is to be had by replying to them.
>>285377651
The donut is baby's first Blender Guru tutorial. You would know that if you were here to create things for use in VR and not shitpost.
>>285377651
I’m sad that it didn’t become a trend and we only have 2 donut pics
>>285378046
I could have made more, but lockdown prevents me from doing so
>>285377527
>to an extent wants to be part of it.
I'd rather be part of the donut circle
The world would be a much better place if Jelly and all of his friends got cancer and died.
>>285377527
>being part of a cult
>not just beeing yourself
>>285378890
>not being the cult leader
>>285377167
>Oculus exclusive
that alone kills any chance of it having a healthy playerbase.
Half Life Alyx is taking me fucking forever I just want to enjoy the story and get back to Dota
>>285378778
Funny, I think the same thing but about VRG instead.
>>285379505
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NOT LIKE THIS BROS IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR TIME, IT HASN'T EVEN BEEN A WEEK, OH NO NO NO PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CUM IN MY ASS
>>285379586
And then jelly and his friends will screech into a dead general for eternity until they die. The end.
>>285379843
kino finale not gonna lie
How did you fuckers finish Alyx in like one day? I can’t play VR for more than an hour in a row without feeling exhausted.
>>285380386
Practice.
>>285380386
Apart from one user that weighs 290lbs, we're all pretty fit.
>>285380386
Lockdown means people have about 16 hours to do whatever now. HL:A can be finished in <10h? It's possible but seems exhausting.
>>285380386
fitness and endurance
if you're fit and are used to extended VR sessions then it's not too difficult to stay in for 9+ hours when you're immersed
>>285380386
>not living in vr
>>285380386
It's so good they just couldn't put it down
I just realised that pavlov splits team based on how long it takes for each person to load in so teams will always be balanced for ping.
>>285380663
>>285380685
I don't mean the physical fitness aspect, my eyes/head hurt. I feel worn out like I've just spent the day at work.
>>285381514
Load in time is determined by hardware though, so you absolutely can have the highest ping players stacked on one team, it just doesn't happen often due to chance.
>>285380386
get fit anon, i can't believe you can't handle standing and waving your arms for 8 hours. just how out of shape are you?i've been sitting on the side of the bed through half of the game, it also took me two days to finish it
liar
>>285381519
what headset? that doesnt seem normal. maybe your ipd is off or your framerate is too low and its hamstringing your brain
>>285381514
Disk speed determines load time, not ping. But yes, that is the determining factor that makes teams similar for the entire session.
pants on fire
>>285381514
Nah, balanced for SSDs. Then you've got faggots like Yuru that just teamswitch to be with his buttbuddies or because he doesn't feel like losing today. No autobalance so you won't even know.
>>285379586
Then fucking leave.
>>285382475
I left.
>>285379740
The only thing exclusive to us is getting fucked by our vrfu in the ass while we beg for more.
>>285382624
Ahh.. don't.. hit my hemorroid~~
>>285380386
If I didn't still have work, I'd have done it too. I've done plenty of 10 hour VR sessions even back when I had a less comfortable headset.
>>285382326
>oh no Im not on the same team as vrfu who happens to be good
Pathetic
You know, now that I think about it, OLED (if not some other technology like microLED) might be the way to go for the next upcoming headsets. Sure, the resolution wouldn't be as high as LCDs, but this generation's LCD panels in the Index and Rift S are honestly high enough to not produce a distracting SDE anymore in most games. With next gen OLEDs, the pixel density and fill may reach this level, and I'd be satisfied with that. The contrast ratio and colors of OLED are missed and do in fact greatly impact games like Alyx where there are a lot of dark scenes.
>>285379505
>turning Alyx into just another Half-Life game
The whole game was designed around VR, and the slow pace and having to reload by hand are a big part of it. Alyx is borderline survival horror, and that clip looks like HL2 with a new coat of paint. At least keeping the slower pace would've kept from completely breaking the game.
It's at least nice to see that modding is already started though, and mods using those weapons should be pretty nice if someone can manage to get them to actually work in VR.
8350-kun here
My rig is alive and beefed at
I’m ready to put Alyx into my body :)
>>285384667
The problem with OLED isn't pixel density, it's subpixel density. The Rift S is clearer than a Quest despite having a lower resolution display.
staying safe from corona in VR with my bros
>>285385321
you're gonna die niggy
my 8350 served me well for 6 years, but I dumped that shit when I got VR
>>285385348
I know, but if you increase the pixel density (pixels per degree) then sub-pixel density (sub-pixels per degree) increases at the same time. You also have to keep in mind pixel fill since pixel density can increase while pixel fill increases, giving you still the same amount of SDE. However in practice, pixel fill does generally seem to increase with increasing resolution, but it doesn't have to necessarily.
In practice, the current best OLEDs in a consumer VR headset are noticeably less sharp and have significantly more SDE than the current best LCDs in a consumer VR headset, but it's not too hard to imagine that the next "generation" of OLEDs may catch up to current LCDs in terms of SDE of sharpness.
>>285386052
>You also have to keep in mind pixel fill since pixel density can increase while pixel fill increases
Sorry I actually meant "while pixel fill decreases" here.
>>285385745
No no. Me Ryzen now.
Almost ruined my new rig putting it together the other day but I managed to fix it.
late pics from the HL:A launch countdown
>>285386052
>>285386212
Yeah, the issue would be pushing decent frame rates at those higher resolutions. With better graphics cards and foveated rendering though, I guess that wouldn't be as much of a problem.
>>285384831
I hope people can really mod melee into the game somehow.
>>285386705
It's fine, we don't need to render at those resolutions. We already don't usually render at the native resolution of our headsets. The goal here is to mainly reduce SDE to the point where it's not distracting anymore like in Index/Rift S.
Del Mar...
Rhodium...
Half Life Alyx has no spirit! No father Grigoris or Laszlos or Winstons. Why am I even doing all of this shit again? For some"super weapon"?
>>285387410
b-b-but there's Larry!!!
guys, please help.
I feel trapped. Is there a platform other than steam? How do i escape the matrix?
>>285386946
Not sure what you mean, I'm rendering at native resolution and I know people who are supersampling way higher.
>>285384831
The VRTranny... it's afraid.
IT'S AFRAID!
good night /vrg/
>>285387687
41%
>>285387780
The point is that most people are not running things at the native resolution (and theoretically cannot because pixels are not mapped 1:1 between the rendered scene and the display, because of the distortion correction filters). Therefore, if we increase the resolution of the display, it doesn't force us to render at a higher resolution. We can choose to do so if we have the PC that can run it, but we don't have to.
>>285387982
oh god please don't tell me i'm being filtered right now
please what do i do? have mercy
>>285387687
the fuck are you on about?
I guess there's Oculus software, WMR software, and SteamVR, but most games will have to go through SteamVR.
>>285382592
the thread you fucking faggot, /vrg/ is not the discord or the vrchat tranny group.
>>285389780
which discord? https://discord.gg/yubucord? I think that's the official /vrg/ discord though, it has 500+ people from /vrg/ in it
>>285389940
It doesn't matter how many people are in it. It's not /vrg/. /vrg/ is a general in 4chan. That's it.
>>285389940
discord trannies rise up
Good evening my dear anons. Due to a game update the Beastaber lobby is once again postponed until a new version of the multiplayer mod is released.
This update will break all of your current mods but it's not to hard to get them working again and you can play custom beatmaps at least. I would refer you to the op but looks like it's still vandalized.
What you will need to do is run the game once to update then download the new mod assistant version from here:
https://github.com/Assistant/ModAssistant/releases
And then just install mods as normal. Fairly straightforward but there's a lot currently missing. I would rerun it over the next week as more mods will update to the newer version and will appear in the list.
There's no telling how long it will be before an update. It's been several months and the original mod dev has still not released an official update, so the patch will likely come from some other fork. I'll post an update when I know more.
>>285390485
>Beastaber
Were you thinking about Beastars?
Don't lie. You were thinking about Beastars weren't you?
They just keep winning...
>>285391626
Didn't vive have this built in since day one?
>>285391719
No that was a button. The Quest is the only one so far that lets you get passthrough just by tapping the headset itself and inducing a acceleration on that that it can differentiate between head movement.
>Want to get into full body tracking
>150 each for each tracker, minimum would need 2 one for each leg, ideally 3 one for the hip
>plus an extra 50 for a set of 3 straps
>500 fucking dollary doos
good fucking lord
>>285391889
>>285391719
>>285391626
I'm guessing they did this mainly for when users are playing in markerless hand tracking mode.
>>285391889
How is that any better than just tapping a button to turn it on and off?
>>285391990
i don't understand why this section of the market is taken up solely by vive trackers
>>285392118
I mean why not? It's an alternative and can free up the need to have a button to do the same thing.
>>285391990
why not get one of those VR treadmills while you're at it
>>285391990
>150 each for each tracker
Just wait for them to come back in stock from HTC and save yourself $50 a tracker.
>an extra 50 for a set of 3 straps
You can get knockoffs for half that or just make your own.
HL2 >>>>> HLA
I would STILL rather play 2 today despite the graphical and technical advances of Alyx
>>285392816
Same. HLA was such a step back it's almost insulting, and the worst thing is that most of our fellow VR users weren't even bothered by how limiting the game is.
anyone have any success with the 360 kinect tracker? I have an old kinect in storage. Does it replace the Vive lighthouses or it only tracks full body? I'd still want to use my regular vive wands and lighthouses for upper tracking, just need it to do my legs
Just finished HLA, I can finally visit this place again without fear of spoilers.
Change this setting for a much better smooth locomotion experience: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2034658445
I really like Half-Life Alyx. Despite it's flaws, I found it to be better than Boneworks. Best VR game so far unless you count things like Second Life or VRChat as a "game"
What's the easiest way to view 360 degree YouTube videos on WMR? The best I could find is a legacy Edge extension, and downloading site I saw recommended wouldn't let me download. On another note, what's a good site with actual VR support to find 180/360 videos?
>>285394180
PornHub.
>>285394004
As much as I complain about the game, I do agree. I'm just sad that it's not what it could have been, and also sad that there aren't many people who are more critical about the game (in a non-shitpost/meme way). I suspect that future Valve games will "fix" these issues as VR game development in general just continues to get better naturally over time, but I really wish we could have had something better today, not tomorrow, since Valve could have done it if they really wanted to.
>>285394748
Yeah it could've been much much better. It felt somewhere in the middle between a tech demo and an actually polished game. I appreciate that it has a fleshed out story with a strong narrative, good voice acting, humor, personality, etc. It felt like an actual video game, not just some jank that barely works thrown together and greenlit on steam. But I think Valve made a mistake by trying to make it too 'safe' by disabling a lot of features that should've just been made available on release. Smooth turning was a big mistake, not because it was forced, but because you had no option for continuous movement. That should've been in the game on launch imo.
https://streamable.com/so43w
Just what exactly is wrong with SteamVR? I'd always treated it like a frame-pacing issue, but now I'm thinking it's some issue with tracking data. As you can see from the hands in the Oculus Dash overlay, it is tracking my hand completely smoothly, but if you look at the controller from the SteamVR overlay, it's juddery and even jumps at one point, while Oculus is tracking it perfectly. What the fuck is this?
>>285392816
HL:A doesn't really feel like a Half-Life game. I really like it, but it's a different kind of game than the others. I won't argue it's better than HL2 in every way, but I'm definitely enjoying it more than HL2. Large parts of 2 felt like a slog for me, and I haven't felt that way about anything in Alyx yet.
>>285393628
>HLA was such a step back it's almost insulting
In some ways, yeah, but it's certainly not worse in every way.
>>285395637
Not even sure what I'm seeing here. What exactly is going on? I'm on OG Vive with an i7-9700k/RTX 2070 and I don't ever have this issue.
>>285395804
Look at the controller relative to the hand model. Look at the buttons. They're juddering constantly.
>>285395923
I have the Index controllers myself, just tested it and I don't have the same issue. I know it's not helpful but, not really sure what is causing it. Can't be SteamVR or the controllers because I'm using SteamVR and the same controllers you are and I don't have the issue. Must be something else.
>>285394004
Boneworks feels more like an interesting tech demo. It's fun, but it's pretty lacking as a game.
>>285396217
I believe the issue is that Steam VR is running on top of Oculus
>>285394245
I actually need it for videos my wife wants to watch, which don't include low production POV porn.
>>285397040
Cuck.
>>285396217
>>285396964
Have you tried adding more light to the room?
>>285392816
HL2 fucking sucks ass and aged like milk. Take off the nostalgia goggles.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
>>285394004
you bought an index at announcement and haven't played anything before 2019
You can build your way out of the "Map"
>>285398686
>building your platform
>with tnt
>>285373998
based
>>285398805
Bad Idea yeah...
>>285374950
Yes you retard, that's exactly what grooming is
>>285376753
Grooming can mean a lot of things you moron. If you groom someone to be feminine, you're grooming them to be a femboy.
You can also groom them to be your tranny, as well, you grooming tranny fucker.
>>285378046
There's 3
>>285378256
You better make more after corona, or I'll be disappointed.
>>285379843
jelly doesnt have friends.
JEsus christ stop spamming vrchat screenshots I'd rather read the shitposting, it's at least funny
>>285399206
I could do more tributes but the pictures aren't saved in the archive
>>285398493
I like seeing whats going on in the VRC meets, don't stop posting them.
>>285399754
>my autism is just as valid a definition
wrong
>>285399714
You can't do that anymore. Try reposting your tributes in /trash/, the mods say it's CP even though he's over 20.
>>285399756
i dont give a single shit about what goes on in tranny groomer land, post your 1 fucking screenshot then fuck off stop flooding the thread with what is essentially big bang radiation noise
>>285399756
Yeah, it's nice right. Sadly, I'm out of screenshots.
>>285392816
I do miss the wider spaces of HL2. Alyx had only 3 fights I remember that weren't in tiny corridors. I was at least expecting something like the antlion fight in hl2 ep2 with the turrets and mines; that sort of base fight would've worked well in VR IMO. I really wish there were vehicles in HLA too.
I have some hope that now they've done all the source 2 engine and polishing work, they can pump out a few more episodes worth of HL story and content and add in more variety.
>>285398686
what map is that?
>>285400626
see
>>285279921
>>285400089
Kill yourself VR tranny you're so god damn self absorbed and narcissistic, gonna mirror stare for some more epic screencaps of the same 4 poses and 3 base models?
>actually got the corona
>wanted to buy a switch for animal crossing or oculus for VR
>both are fucking sold out in a 5 state radius
Half Life 3 is going to have two separate flatscreen and VR campaigns,one for Alyx and one for Gordon.
Post Kino.
>>285400906
>VRCM: Build & mine blocks
Found it, thanks
https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_27db3aca-3e49-4c91-b88a-94c09891984a
>>285400969
its almost as if you can buy stuff online on amazon.com or something
Like... Are there actually going to be fights in this game that last longer than 20 secpnds? Jesus Christ I'm at chapter 6 or 7
Maybe we'll have to wait for mods
>>285401678
The game lasts like 20 minutes, so no.
>>285401678
If the one you got leaving the North Star wasn't long enough, I want to ask where you found the HEV suit and armor to not die in 2 seconds out of cover allowing you to run around spraying down the huge dudes.
DDDDUUUUUUURRR AVOCADO
DDDUUURR VRGSIE
Is RX 480 too ass for HLA? Probably going with the Quest (which I also want for other stuff, HLA is probably the only PC VR game for now) as well. It seems a bit cheap for such a game but I won't really be in position to upgrade for a while.
>>285402436
He’s prolly playing on easy
Does there exist a satanist cult in Vrchat and if, how do I join it?
Maybe there is a world I can go to?
>>285403334
It'll work on a 480, but you're probably going to be playing on low.
>>285403334
I played it with a 480 8gb on Ultra settings fine enough. The game recommended High settings to me at first. I experimented with dropping it to Low settings - it felt a little smoother but it was hard for me to tell the difference personally. Of course your cpu does matter - I also have a Ryzen 3800x.
>tfw afraid of going to the doctor because they'll see my vrscars
>>285404791
Satanism is literally just hipster leftist atheism
>>285404791
there's an authentic satanic church in vrchat, very well designed and accurate. Do some searching.
>>285407260
>vrscars
Like in vrchat you made your avatar with a bunch of scars or as in you being the stupid local tard that tries to kill himself with scissors?
>>285407618
>>285407636
stop bullying jelly
>>285407683
It’s called justice. Being a literal retard doesn’t make you immune.
>>285407821
what'd he even do? i think you're just psychotic
>>285407618
>>285407636
>>285407683
>>285407821
>>285407870
Jannie, you need to delete this fucking shit. You get a 4chan pass for free, you are literally paid to delete this shit, do your job.
>>285401461
its almost like you can't, since only 3rd party sellers have it for marked up prices.
>>285408025
Jannie don't care
>>285407431
except they have a deity, so its not atheism and has existed since before DURR LEFT
>>285408145
Maybe if the jannie wasn't a pyschopathic shitposter this place wouldn't suck so much
>>285408025
I like how jelly only quotes the shitposting against him and not the shitposting he did against others. Consider sharper scissors you literal tard.
>>285408878
You're a pyschotic freak.
>>285408967
Being a psychotic freak is better than being a schizo
>>285409074
He's not even schizo you're just a bully
>>285409226
why do you keep on referring to yourself in the third person? telltale signs of a schizo
>>285409528
Why do you think everyone is him? Telltale signs of a schizo
>>285329840
Nice work anon. Which version of Lifelight did you play?
>>285409605
Says the literal retard who thinks everyone is Dal
>>285411421
Thanks for your input, Dal.
http://poal.me/yidr16 VOTE ON THE FRIDDAY GAME OR I WILL ASOOM YOU ARE GAY
>>285412149
Look it really was Dal lmao, all you did was come here to say JELLY SCISSORS ALSO LET ME NAMEDROP MYSELF then post this garbage poll.
>>285412501
I have never, nor will I ever make that joke about scissors, teasing suicidal people isn't cool, anybody you asoom is saying that as me, isn't me.
>>285412664
Funny how that posting stopped after you revealed yourself, huh?
why does he always go :^) when hes lying
>>285413047
I know you might not believe this, but some of us still have boundaries on whats alright to do, you let these fuckers live in your head too much, let it go.
>>285413401
Funny, just ctrl+f jelly from fatty290lbs in discord and laugh
>>285413485
Why do you care what others think of you so much and why do you believe this place needs to be a hugbox where everyone treats people who treated them wrong reasonable for any human.
ignore the shitposters, psychos, cybertrannies and hypnosissies
just remember no matter what be what you wanna be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUQvBuWL3jk
>>285413812
I just don't understand your logic, you sit here shitposting Jelly in VRChat, in discord, and in the thread. You're not the only one, I'm just saying you do it.
All of you guys do it, and yet you claim you're rent-free in his head?
From my unbiased opinion, Jelly's rent-free in dozens of your heads.
>>285414048
Bro, we are not having an argument about that here, lord knows its happened too many times. Just understand how much you are letting these others shitposters who will happily shitpost me, you, and anybody for (you)'s fuck with you. For thread peace's sake, don't engage, be above that shit, post some content, enjoy your VR games and have fun.
>>285414183
Make sure you use sharper scissors if that’s all you’re able to get your dirty retarded hands on.
Fat 290 lbs nigger
>>285413485
June, the Lavender dev, has met up with Dal irl and confirmed that he is not fat at all.
>>285414618
I bet there’s not a single person willing to put their name behind defending the retard. They just leak that he was retarded enough to use scissors and laugh at him. Dal in the other hand has the Lavender dev and others.
dal290 yuru yuki nagato aerthas veras / dankmemes distoibed ram bote pineapples k3rndesu kylian toppest ramen arrowslash pietka reminess jazkaz pyopyo chad warden
>>285415587
What about them?
>>285415587
oh oh do me
>>285415587
Now give a list of all the people you shitpost
>>285415587
Me next!
>>285414298
Thanks for your input, Dal, I just find it funny how scissors posting stops immediately after you namedrop yourself post your shitty poal crap and start arguing in your normal typing style.
Coincidence or not? Just really makes me think is all I'm saying...
You have the motivation and ban evade all the time, so yeah.
>>285408025
>none of the scissors posting deleted
Yet,
>>285412698
Stays
It's almost as if the Jannie has a biased opinion and deletes anything bad about our glorious leaderfaggot dal, actual truths as well, while letting psychotic bullying remain.
Really makes me think, also Dal proving himself by reporting stuff when he gets out smarted and out argued, for the billionth time.
Reporting doesn't mean you win.
>>285414806
>Why do you hate me?
Because the cool kids in the discord do so now I do
>>285415161
Both people are insuferable sociopaths who lie behind peoples backs and shit talk, and both already confirmed lie for eachother with Dal going WOOOOOW LAVENDER AMAZING in reviews and in discord when it's a pile of unfinished shit that doesn't deserve to be shilled yet. you're 290lbs of Nigger, dal.
>>285415325
>people cum on donuts and cum tribute jelly
>nobody likes him
Amazing the cope you go through, go on meet up with your pyschopathic Lavender butt buddy irl so you guys can bring Jelly posting outside of the thread, discord, VRChat to real life.
>>285415587
Pretty good list of Jelly's stalkers, although I don't know why jazkaz and reminess would be there, redpill me
The worst part is those people never get banned this cringe scissors posting but if you call any of them a fat nigger with proof you get banned, what kind of bullshit thread is this?
>>285416198
anyone who namedrops themselves in the thread or attention whores
can anybody help me my oculus quest isn't working with steamvr anymore, haven't used it in months and didn't change anything. getting 1114 error or headset not detected
i've tried everthing people said on the steamcommunity forum. Any Help? Pls
>>285415325
except they put their cum to it.
>/vrg/ turns into angry bullies during a quarantine
>>285416653
We only have retarded /vg/ jannies here conspiracy tard. If we didn't none of us would have to suffer through all the off topic garbage you spew out and attacks on every person that hosts something. The only posts in this general that get deleted are what people bother to report. Everyone here is sick of your shitposting and it should come at no fucking surprise that it then get's more reports and is deleted.
>>285413812
Jelly did nothing wrong, go on, explain what he did to the class besides call you a fat nigger.
Why do you think any insult to you is an affront to all of /vrg/? You're pretty narcissistic.
>>285417185
>turns into
>during
They've always been this way
>>285417289
Maybe if the /vg/ jannies did their job people like you would be range banned and scissors posting would be gone
Hosting a game for 20 minutes every weekend doesn't give you a shitpost for free pass, and namedropping yourself is breaking anonymity to begin with. Literally nothing wrong with shitposting people who namedrop themselves.
You seem to think it's fine to attack people with information that was personally told to you in private in VRChat so what's wrong with attacking you anyway?
>>285408134
RIP anon. At that point, I would just resort to other games.
>>285417731
based
>>285417496
Haha you really don’t like the scissors leak do you? Is it because it proves that you really are as stupid and retarded as everyone thought you were?
>>285417185
Believe it or not but things has actually slowed down on this general when it comes to absolute shitposting, dramaposting, namedropping, schizoposting, cult conspiracy posting, lewd posting, stalkerposting, mentalbreakdown posting, mahjongposting and actual VR posting.
The only thing that hasn't slowed down is discord hate posting, leaderfag event posting, dalposting, reply chain posting, avatar posting and metaposting.
>>285417908
>leaderfag event posting
God forbid people actually trying to play VIDEOGAMES interrupts your blog.
>>285417908
>Dalposting
You mean dal posting about jelly, and doing these stupid blog tirades against him, right?
>>285417908
>discord hate
Isnt it jelly that's hating on the vrg discord?
Didnt jelly make oort cloud?
Didnt he try for a power grab as well but that failed? As a result, vrg discord happened?
My RMA'd Index controllers arrived, but I still experience lost tracking. Thought maybe wi-fi interference was the source, yet even playing with an ethernet connection showed no improvement. My computer is high end. I guess I'm just screwed, I have no idea how it could work perfectly for months and suddenly stop, despite no clear change to my playing environment
>>285418990
vrg discord existed when oort cloud was made, you're just dal trying to deflect from the ULF shit and steam group
>>285419351
try using just one base station
Don't forget, madness combat avatar event is the first week of april. Here's the base model: https://files.catbox.moe/wrg25f.blend
If it doesn't have the texture atlas please post and I'll post it in the thread.
>>285420427
Madness Combat Avatar Event?
>>285420837
Yeah, just get common accessories of your normal avatar and stitch them on to the base. Effects and props encouraged.
>>285419756
Already tried, no difference
>>285421551
Oh! I get it now. That's pretty neat.
>>285422375
its kinda cringe and cultish
Holy shit I just finished HLA and... what the fuck!!!
>>285424958
science team: after dark
>>285424958
so this is really what the science team does...
H3VR's Containment level is pretty fun.
>Bring your favourite gun along for a spy mission
>Take & Hold are hold-outs instead of trying not to get shot in a corridor in normal Take & Hold Mode
>Random enemy types that make you fight differently
>Random weapon caches
>Reloading your gun one-handed on a ladder
drink more water lad
>>285425798
>[File deleted]
Afraid of getting banned?
>>285426035
yes
>>285419351
Rotate base station positions, like swap their location or try new locations
>>285426150
I just moan like a normal human, thanks
https://github.com/alicevision/meshroom/releases
Meshroom - It's a free program that can used to 3d scan rooms and objects using just a normal camera.
It runs on your nvidia gpu, takes a few hundred similar photographs from different angles and turns it into a 3d mesh. No time of flight lidar or stereo cameras, it just figures it all out using machine vision black magic to generate a depthmap and texture off it. The meshroom software itself is basically automatic, but the result you get at the end is hundreds of thousands of tris and several 8k textures so you'd want to do some basic Blender cleanup (just decimation and texture atlasing) before bringing it all into Unity.
Example: This coffee table was meshed from 120 photos and most of the holes are from light-glare off the varnish. With 200-300 pics the result would probably be perfect. Other anons have used this to scan their entire vr playspaces. It's pretty easy so if there's something irl you want to bring into vrchat, give it a go.
>>285427429
I like that it sounds like mushroom :o)
new thread
>>>/trash/29220997
>>285428230
Actual new /vrlg/ thread
>>>/trash/29221158
>>285428885
Please stop spamming the board you kill threads like that asshole, keep your grudges to yourself
>>285425610
The map is too big.
>>285430008
Jannie will delete this post, but not the ones here >>285419938
>>285431054
It's basically confirmed the jannie/mod is a regular in /trash/ and a huge fucking faggot, which is why he's okay with the absolute state of /vrg/. His identity is very, very narrowed down I'm 60% sure of who it is right now I'm just looking for more dirt so I can blackmail the fucker
>>285427429
For larger scans like entire rooms/houses, I've had good results with display.land , and it's extremely easy for the quality you get. You need a high-end phone to use it, but if it's supported, you just walk around your room for 5-10 minutes getting enough angles in video, they do the processing, then you can download the mesh and import into unity. Lumpy but impressive results.
i like how he seethes about jelly constantly and copes 24/7
>>285431530
I'm never going to admit to anything, but I'm excited for you to find me out so you'll be faced with how little anyone cares when nothing happens.
>>285432753
I'm taking matters into my own hands, you know what I mean?
>>285415587
Updating list
dal290, yuru, yuki nagato, aerthas veras / dankmemes, distoibed, ram, bote, pineapples, k3rndesu, kylian, toppest ramen, arrowslash, pietka, reminess?, jazkaz?, pyopyo, chad warden, lamby
>>285433087
is this an extermination list?
>>285433087
Seethe
>>285433215
No of course not
>>285427357
Again, makes no difference. Unless my base stations are somehow faulty, it's an unknown signal interference
>>285433734
Not the other anon but those controllers use IR? I guess make sure no reflective surfaces and/or other things in the household that can disrupt/overload the IR spectrum.
>>285433087
do i even want to know why I'm a question mark
>>285435147
its not confirmed if you';re a jelly poster or not, i dont know why the other anon put you there, but theres probably truth there so ???
>>285435147
Because you havent done enough to piss off the local autist yet
>>285435241
its the other way around those guys are pissed at jelly and shitpost about him, one of them admitted to be a stalker of 6 years even, you guys are pathetic
>>285334138
I've heard that jogging in place while you move in VR helps as it tricks your brain into thinking you are actually walking when you move around in the game.
Some games like Stand Out and War Dust have a feature where the game detects when the headset is bobbing up and down and moves the player around in proportion to the frequency that the headset bobs.
There is also a program called Natural Locomotion that you can use with two Vive trackers strapped to your ankles to translate the up and down movement of the trackers as you jog in place into forward movement and is compatible with an ever expanding list of VR games.
Alternatively, you can get an omni-directional treadmill like the ones they use in Ready Player One though sadly they are either expensive as fuck or only available for purchase by VRcades.
Personally, I've never gotten motion sickness that easily. In fact, I used to take naps on the tilt-a-whirl at my local amusement park because it felt so relaxing. I do get disoriented enough to lose my balance sometimes, though.
>>285435328
It looks more like his grudge list. Some of those people don't do anything to Jelly and just try to avoid him.
>>285435831
oh right i forgot a ? on pietka as well
dal290, yuru, yuki nagato, aerthas veras / dankmemes, distoibed, ram, bote, pineapples, k3rndesu, kylian, toppest ramen, arrowslash, pyopyo, chad warden, lamby
ill just remove the ones i have no clue are there, the rest of these jelly post all the fucking time in discord, probably the thread ,and shit talk in game. they're horrible humans and you should avoid them and be wary, lest they crash you for daring to be positive about jelly
>>285435946
It still had a few innocent people on it.
>>285435946
Pietka only made the mistake of having a crush on Tiuku (Jelly's ex) and still being friend with him.
As well as being VRfu with Arrow.
>>285435946
Hilariously they're all ex friends of jelly, except for chad who is a self proclaimed pot stirrer.
>>285436076
It literally has 0 innocent people on the list right now, want me to explain why? I've seen everything unfold before my own eyes. To anyone who read the threads or anything.
>>285436317
I removed pietka I don't think anyone cares about that, dude, stop being stupid.
>>285435946
I don't think jelly was ever friends with pineapples bote distoibed or yuru, its almost as if the rest pretended to be his friend to find dirt and shitpost about it
It's almost as if thats where scissors posting came from or something, i dunno
>>285436412
Literally this, people betrayed his trust so much he axed his own friendships out of paranoia and retreated within himself and just chills on his own a lot. I wish people gave him a break and stopped reopening old wounds and just let him chill and heal, maybe re-learn trust. Too many idiots who either don't know better or go out of their way to hurt him more end up in his circle of trust and abusing it, then making everything worse.
After it's done, they run around screaming about what an arsehole jelly is.
>it's their fault if I backstabbed them
dal290, yuru, yuki nagato, aerthas veras / dankmemes, distoibed, ram, bote, pineapples, k3rndesu, kylian, toppest ramen, arrowslash, pyopyo, chad warden, lamby, birbmang, tunz
Updated list~
>>285436613
Considering no personal information about these people are floating around, but jelly's entire personal life is heavily discussed by these people, it's almost as if these are the knife holders, and try to frame it as if he stabbed them instead.
>>285420427
Thats not gonna happen.
>>285436412
Not namedropping anyone in the thread.
I will have a conversation with Jelly about it next time I see him in game.
>he still thinks that anyone cares about being namedropped
>>285436942
You don't talk about Jelly.
>Dal290
One of the biggest shit stirrers, you can see for yourself this thread
>Yuru
Bullies practically anyone with a loli avatar, kept shitting on him in discord constantly he saw Jelly as a threat to his leaderfaggotry, he also did this to FCE
>Yuki
That's been plastered over the thread already, he was autistically mad over years old VRFU shit nobody cares about
>Dank memes
Jelly's own personal gang stalker from /dsg/ who posts about how he's been following him around for 6 hours, genuine pyschopath for that
>Distoibed
He sits in discord being a retard, not even the discord fags like him
>ram
Another sits in voice chat with people like dal guy who lies and is 2 faced, can't shut his mouth about stuff he knows about other people
>bote
Ok maybe this one doesnt belong I cant think of anything here
>pineapples
Literally shits on jelly in the discord constantly, unironically thought the fake jelly was real just to have more reasons to hate him
>k3rn
Reiko tranny from the HRT grooming cult, eternally butthurt jelly exposed him about that. if he finds out you're friends with jelly he tries to "jellypill you" until you either go along with it, or get crashed and put on his shit list
>Kylian
Leaked his suicide stuff, haha scissors am i right??? haha, surprised the supposed pics he sent weret leaked
>toppest ramen
Turned on jelly when he dared to show evidence one of his friends shitposted him, also a discord mod, none of the discord mods seemto like him
>Arrowslash
Actual stalker, once faith went away he turned to stalk jelly and meddle in any affair he could get his hands on
>pyopyo
they were never friends, but deagle > (You) *dabdabdab*
>Chad warden
Actual sociopath who faps to blades and sorcery
>lamby
Kid went with the crowd is straight from VRCA and just decided to shitpost jelly for no real reason
>birbmang
haha im a pyscho look at me im cool im fat
>tunz
one of these guy's mute alt that lewds in vrlg
Theres your knife
>be an outsider mostly lurking for over a few year
>see all the crazy shit spewed about this individual
>initial thoughts were "typical 4chan faggotry"
>continues for several months
>start thinking "is this guy the local goblin or something?"
>start wondering why the individual hasnt left the community yet
>sees this list >>285436707
>just end up assuming hes one of those nutcases that think "THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH ME! IT IS THE WORLD THAT IS SICK!!"
>because theres no way a sane person would stick around a place where they are unwanted especially if there are other groups/friends that are supportive/beneficial to their life
>>285437713
were you home schooled? people are petty, anon, they will scapegoat one person to hide their faults. its classic high school mentality, you talk about how you're a lurker, but i bet you're on that list damage controlling
people wanna sit here shitting on someone and then cry when they shit back, its pathetic, you're pathetic. leave jelly alone.
>>285437713
>>because theres no way a sane person would stick around a place where they are unwanted especially if there are other groups/friends that are supportive/beneficial to their life
It's almost as if people sit here talking about him, even when he's not in the discord or at meets. It's almost as if you're inserting your own lore in, to satisfy your own fucked up world view.
>>285437901
I used to not believe this, but then I joined the discord voice call, and the absolute state of /vrlg/ cumming on his pics and eating it, even donuts, holy shit what is this timeline?
>>285434747
There are no reflective services in view of the base stations, and there's no bright fluorescent light. I'll try turning off my monitor tomorrow, but I don't see how that'll fix anything as it was on when I had perfect tracking.
>>285438509
This is a 4chan community, remember? Millennials are damaged and Zoomers are outright insane.
>>285438875
I could've sworn we were a discord vrchat community, because if you don't wanna be there they scream if you use the thread
>>285437329
>you can see for yourself this thread
Fat proofs you got me, "hey lets play a VR game together" "FUCK OFF I AM DRAMAPOSTING"
>>285439491
Thanks for your input, Dal.
>>285439035
The only one who screams is Dal, who has literally stated outright "the only thing that keeps me from snapping is people joining my lobbies and discord calls and validating me" without realizing how much of a fucking nutjob sociopath that makes him sound like.
How am I supposed to keep up with all this, who am I supposed to be mad at, who even are these people,
>>285439554
I mean, look at the picture above you. He's probably seething right now because he got called out in his poal voting and people memed and voted everything to be 4 except for DEEze NUTEs
>>285439591
Just don't be mad at anyone honestly, just tell people to knock their shit off if they ever try to make you mad at someone else. I'm guilty of the HE SAID AND ID THAT game and sometimes we need a firm slap and told to stfu retard occasionally (I mean in vrchat its fine to do in the thread, everyone does it in the thread)
>>285439726 (Cross-thread)
>>285439726 (Cross-thread)
>>285439726 (Cross-thread)
NEW
>>285439540
>>285439693
I really like this logic, you point to an anonymous user and claim its me. I on the other hand now have a poal with somebody proving they have a VPN that hates me. Thanks for the solid proofs mate :^)
>>285439554
lol isnt this the exact shit he screams jelly does? sounds like a victim card attention whore to me
>>285439895
why do you go :^) whenever you're lying are you retarded
>>285439743
>nearly 20 posts early
>>285439931
>let me gaslight him that will make this better
I got proofs of an evading/VPN fag stalking me, you have jack shit.
>>285439991
keep doing this shit and people will stop joining your calls you pyschopath, gonna snap huh?
also i was the guy who said "oh look vpns work" some dude literally said test and i shitposted in reply because its funny and i knew you'd be like
LET ME SCREENCAP because you're so predictable and funny to watch sperg out, fucking lolcow tier hilarity
>>285439994
>>285440084
It is permanent proof I have, and the best you got is speculation and "this anonymous user is him because he was mean"
>>285440146
I also have permanent proof, you're the only one who types that way and refers to yourself as black man. Look, you're doing that quoting style RIGHT NOW
I even circled it for you, why do you keep making mistakes?
Now do you guys see? That was literally, without a shred of doubt, dal290.
>>285439591
Honestly, dont bother. Not worth the time nor energy.
>>285440126
>>285440210
absolutely destroyed holy shit
>>285440220
literally this, its just people damage controlling bullying and fighting back, dont fucking bother keep to yourself and avoid everyone involved for your own sanity
>>285440210
>this anonymous user is him because he was mean
>he a nig
>XD
>lowercase i
Holy fuck are you retarded or what.
>>285440126
>>285439994
>A lot of these apply to me
Well fuck
>>285440260
>>285439726 (Cross-thread)
>>285439726 (Cross-thread)
>>285439726 (Cross-thread)
NEW NEW
>>285440375
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizoid_personality_disorder
>>285440372
How fucking retarded are you? Nobody else does that weird thing where you're sarcastic and type in quotes feeling like you epically owned someone, and they refered to dal as "the black man" instead of "the angry nigger'
All the evidence is there, and with your post just now doing the quote thing, even though I blatantly circle it for you, you still did it.
>>285440529
>>285440126
>>285439994
id be schizoid but im seeking love and affection im all of this but fail at life basically, that said i am diagnosed a schizo type disorder
>>285440661
>>285439591
What makes more sense, that a dozen people are crazy assholes that somehow play games with people for years without an issue, or crazy schitzoposter is crazy.
>>285440602
>they didn't refer to him in a derogatory manner
>they don't hate him like I do clearly they are him
i can't believe you XD!!!!
>>285440779
Yes, crazy assholes tend to flock together, especially on 4chan. You fucking moron. Especially when, with their names attached, in discord, do this shit. And in game make use of crashers and more rumors.
So yes, that makes perfect sense. Especially with one of the more prominent ones literally outted as a fucking psycho about to snap.
Who the fuck wrote this comic? A lot of this is also autism spectrum disorder
>>285440776
>>285440867
Why yes mental illness overlap, it's almost as if being weird or different causes the same social consequences of the comic.
>>285440840
Yes we understand anon, the whole world is crazy, and your precious friend (not him btw) is innocent :c
>>285440916
Don't self diagnose or attempt to diagnose people over the internet.
>>285440882
>>285440942
You are not the whole world you egotistical cunt.
Your entire argument right now is you are the whole world, therefor since you're the whole world, you can never do wrong and your lies are truth.
Truly, you are the feeble minded one here. Get new material, local nigger.
Stay in discord, don't come back.
>>285440882
edit with namedrops and "wow you're /vrg/?"
>>285441004
>>285440776
i am a sufferer of this holy shit literally me
>>285441016
Name one single situation where this anon has not entered a community, and hasn't been kicked out, or labeled everyone who dared challenge them as cringe. Need I remind you of the /ss13/ event of less then a months worth of visiting having spurs of shitposting about how everyone else was crazy assholes and that their friend (not them btw) was innocent and all of the mods were powercrazy ect ect. It hasn't returned since that time period, how odd.
>>285441105
>>285441132
Now your entire argument is boiling down to
"Ignore me being a bad boy! Look! Jelly bad!'
Truly a pyschopath, always deflecting and bullying.
You ever gonna take responsibility for your own life and mistakes, or you gonna continue shifting blame, manipulative cunt?
>>285441210
Own up to your shit and people will respect you, deny it forever and people will continue to hate you.
>>285441209
What prompted your interest in SPD, anon?
>>285441132
this post read like a monologue of the guy from american pyschopath but with a fat albert voice
>>285441267
lots of projecting, eh nigger? why you so mad you got ousted by an actual retard
>>285441324
>>285441451
>>285441267
You sure do love projecting, actual pyscho. Gonna snap because I called you a fat nigger? You seem to like saying local retard a lot, or thread goblin, what's the difference?
>>285441582
>>285441705
>>285441210
This is funny to watch but life must go on. Now shoo. Go on. Disappear. Maybe catch covid-19, have a near-death experience, and be reborn into someone new. Anything really. Certainly isnt doing you much good sitting here being a keyboard warrior then turning around going O WOE IS ME
>>285441829
That was all of it. Thank you for reading.
>>285441942
No idea what you were trying to convey.
>>285441858
Hopefully you catch corona and die, you fat nigger. That would be a god send. Don't come back, stay in discord mr. keyboard warrior.
We're sick of your fat ass in the thread.
>>285441991
i think he's telling me ive become schizoid
>>285442065
That's stupid and furthermore why is this place so full of armchair psychologists?
>>285442208
well ive been acting that way and was actually within the past 2 years diagnosed a schizo disorder, so hes not wrong.