Do we have any upcoming events?
Thread 348812440 · 08/24/21(Tue)03:00:34 UTC · 773 posts, 130 images. Archived from 4chan /vrg/; deleted posts are not shown.
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Previous thread: >>348671264 (Cross-thread)
Do we have any upcoming events?
Good shootan' guys. Let's play more Serious Sam same time next week.
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>>348812609
SRS
This game has no right to be as good as it is in VR.
>>348812597
Vrgrammys, sept 25th. Speaking of.
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>>348813009
I think that most shooters benefit from VR. Being able to decouple both hands and your head on top of the game's target prioritization horde shooter gameplay really works well. Going back to the desktop version just feels limited in comparison. My main gripe about the VR version is that mods for the desktop version aren't all compatible.
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>>348813105
Good trailer
Looking forward to it!
>>348813328
>snap turning
you're a psychopath
>>348813105
There is no "Best newfag" section with me in it so i'm not voting or attending.
>>348813328
why are there so many wojacks running around
>>348813540
i haven't turned it off, nor have i checked to see if i can. just got used to it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>348812435 (Cross-thread)
That's fine with me. I'd want at least one more than just 2 though.
Any other takers for Payday 2?
>>348813176
>All those furries
>>348813874
Pls help
They're multiplying
>>348813105
So who exactly decided upon these nominees?
>>348813874
is that the girl from sanoba witch
>>348814262
Like 20 random ppl I messaged
>>348813594
Ok
>>348813105
I mean real events.
>>348813874
a furry exercised today. did you? be ready.
>>348814519
It just doesn't seem very well rounded to me. Lots of others that could have been considered but it was decided by some unknown council?
>>348814716
It's a dumb shitcord event why do you care? It's about as relevant to the thread as the picrew nonsense.
Go complain about it there instead of here.
>>348815139
Could have been a good, relevant event in my opinion, if an open vote was held or something, or at least had better representation, but instead it seems like they just selected from their discord friends for the nominees and went to town
>>348813105
Yikes. Cringe discord event.
gotta love the amount of literally whos in this meme grammy event, some of these guys literally don't go to meetups lmao
>>348816049
aww, you'll be included next time sweetheart
Sorry if you didn't make it
>>348813105
Good trailer
Looking forward to it!
BUT
Rude I don't do melties in the thread
Mind telling if someone is spreading rumors about that?
A good reminder is to never shit on where you eat and to never bite on bait.
>>348816248
you appear to be new
>>348816324
What do you mean? I've been here all summer.
>>348813105
please kill youself krial.
>>348813105
Anything else going on that day so I can skip this?
>>348816275
Gunning for that number 1 spot already Yuki? Love to see the competitive spirit.
>>348816674
out of pure spite, ill host something.
>>348816736
Based.
>>348816523
Kill me first you faggot coward
>>348816674
Technically if one acts fast enough we can create a strawpoll voted on thing on the thread right now for shits and giggles. That's pretty reactionary though.
I personally think it will be fun and looking forward to what they cooked up, just need to push this grammy thing to utilize the thread more for more fun times. The organizer is quite new. In due time maybe they'll become a valuable member of the community.
>>348816980
give me your #'s and i will
does any one want to cuddle & watch movies until tomorrow morning...?
>>348816674
>>348816736
should do an actual vrg grammy event instead of discord grammy event
>>348817034
My what? What would having my phone number do
>>348816049
I mean if you're not in it you're more of a literal who than anyone that is.
>>348816719
Replying is not melty behavior.
Mind explaining what the segment actually entails?
I'm guessing it's the perception of melty rather than actually being a source of one.
>>348817212
Nah, that list is very heavily just from the discord clique. Not being a discord attention whore doesn't mean you are nobody
>>348817169
why would i want your fucking phone number. just stop making these shitty events at the wrong time of the year and stop making this stupid fucking event where you target harass people for no fucking reason. sure i dont like some of the people there. theres not reason to do this at other peoples expenses.
>>348813105
If this is real and there is a hosted event for it I'm unfriending any one of you fucks that attends this circle-jerk.
>348816218
>348817212
thanks for the free (You)s lmaoooo
>>348817215
clever guy, he's trying to cinch the vote early ;)
>>348817364
U asked for my #’s. If u meant discord or whatever it’s Krial#1234
Also are. U ok anon. It’s a for fun event meant to be humorous. :)
>>348817451Number 1 is number 1. Let's goooooooooo
Enough joking around. When is the next real event?
>>348813105
Cringe popularity contest, keep your circlejerk shit in the trannycord where it belongs
>348817425
He can't keep getting away with this
>>348817662
so is this one of those events just made to piss people off again? Based, just like the choob event
>>348817113
>>348816736
That'll be reactionary but it's scheduled quite far and can probably contribute a bit on that. Quick I'm bad with memes, someone make a good strawpoll
>>348817813
could just try being more likeable so your exclusion from these events doesn't sting so bad
>>348817215
I'm just busting your balls. I have nothing to do with the event. But if I had to guess their intent, it's a joke, it would have fallen flat if you didn't respond but here we are.
>>348816736
I don't know if you're serious or not anon, but I'll definitely host something too. Even as a shitpost it's a terrible event and Krial needs to step back a little bit, he's overstepping his bounds cause this is most likely his first /vg/ community and doesn't know any better.
I can assure you this now and feel free to screencap this post that I will do something else and more fun on that day. I think an event like he wanted isn't a bad idea, but not letting us nominate while also shitting on others is just bad practice. I don't wanna vote on this, don't wanna attend and don't want anything to do with it.
>>348818354
Why do you act like I want to be part of your normalfag group or attend your shitty event?
Is literally all jokes and for fun event, if ppl melty though then all the better
>>348818442
Just fun posting on the idea as well. Quite benign really. All good, thanks for explaining though, that helps me understand it much better now.
>>348818513
not saying you should be, but having fun with things is generally better than seething about them
>it's all for jokes guys haha its totally not a discord circlejerk event ;) ;)
>doesn't even try to make it funny or original, literally just a popularity contest
yeah nah fuck yourself discordfags
Anyone got any recommendations for something to walk around in and explore? Preferably urban. I've done google earth a lot already.
>>348818520
I don't think people are having a melty exactly. More of a little bit disappointed I guess? It seems to still be a good looking event, they even have a trailer.
The origin of the community is the thread yet no attempt at gathering the nominee phase seems to have been posted here.
Would be really fun to have some sort of nominee stuff with only "positive" fun/banter affirmations.
I love NMS in VR. I have spent everyone of those hours in VR over many long play sessions, I can't think of many VR games that can hold my attention like that. I never see this come up in recommendations and it really should.
>>348819085
VRchat has a lot of worlds like that.
For URBAN, driving in the night city is a good map
>>348819162
Cat u need to take a chill pill bro it’s rly not that big a deal
>>348819418
you're actually worse than jelly. go back to the frathouse.
>>348819162
someone is doing their best to get late added to the 'most likely to have a melty' category I see
I've de-trannyfied this event. Introducing the OFFICIAL /vrg/ Grammys!
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>>348819528
im not clicking all this shit man
>>348819528
thank you anon, this is great lmfao
>>348819672
clicked every single one btw
>>348819484
Just start banning him from your DJ events king.
>>348819191
We've played a ton of No Man's Sky VR when it just got a VR port.
It is quite good for what it is.
Sort of like Valheim VR but IN SPACE
>>348819781
good idea anon, thank you
>>348820123
Make sure to also have him be banned from any event you're invited to perform in.
>>348820208
i'd love to but im not gonna drag my rules everywhere i go.
>>348819162
>Says he Pick ppl that can handle the bantz
>Actually have a category of who is most likely to have a melty
Jesus Christ, and how long has Krial been around? Dude just showed up one day and just encourages everybody to fucking drink and turns the meetups into a drunken frat party every weekend.
>>348820283
Consider it a a payment fee that the event host has to pay for the VIP dj.
Krial? You mean that guy with no personality outside of his job, wife and throwing money around?
its super obvious when you samefag fyi
>Choobie, Valentines and Prom done specifically to stir shit
>But it's a problem when K does it
>>348819528
Thanks anon
Well if this needs steam
We'll need to discuss now on what would be good to nominate in there, people are hesitant on placing people or events right now
Listing all the events here that I remember by month
/vrg/ vault 2020
Speed Dating
/vrlg/ Speed Mating
/vrg/ Lenticular Lense Play
Canada Day
Sonic Saturdays
PyPy Dance
Virtame
somestupidguy Concerts
Blue Portal Concert
Idol event
Sports Festival
on the top of my head
>>348821175
It's bad no matter who does it
>>348819839
it's had a few expansions since then
>>348820631
I think he is an absolute pos for putting D in that category. But sorry bro he a big time normie who has more personality than half /vrg/ combined
>>348821175
those events are shitty yes. they dont have their fun/stir shit at the other people's expenses though.
>>348821391
>choobie event
>don't stir shit
>>348821607
Choobie event was pure.
>>348821607
wow, it's like you ignored the part of your sentence that didn't support your argument!
so the part that you chose to not read said
>they dont have their fun/stir shit at the other people's expenses though.
Friendly reminder M's Kon event was everything the choobie event wanted to be without stirring shit
>>348820631
I mean the newfag who thinks trying VR in 2018 and dropping it for 3 years suddenly makes him an oldfag
Wait a second, this general is just a circlejerk. You guys don't talk about games at all
>>348821790
YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY IT OUT LOUD
>>348821790
What do you want to talk about?
>>348813105
So there's no chance of you changing this up last minute to make it more fun and just want to "haha I love the seething" posts (you)'re getting, right?
This could be fun but you chose not to.
>>348821789
I’m not oldfag tho lol
>>348821705
the only "shit stirring" which occurred from the choobie event was an unintended consequence, but the people who seethed over it and still do don't matter anyway so lol
>>348821705
Oh yeah was the Kon event this year or the last?
I can't remember exactly. VR time works weirdly
>>348821175
>Choobie
S wanted to do a cute booth edit event which was ahead of its time and even got a vrchat celebrity take part.
>Valentines
S wanted to put on a cute dance event for his friends.
>Prom
B also wanted to put on a cute dance event for his friends.
None of those events stirred any shit.
>>348821961
explain which parts aren’t cool and I could look at it. I’m not opposed to changes at all but I also am not cool with bending over to ppl who melty and leak DM’s
>>348821921
why are most VR games either shooters or porn, anon?
Using vrchat. Have giantess and growth fetish. I recall seeing som vrchat world with a giant senran kara character standing or on her knees in the middle of a pier. Anyone know of that worlds name, and similar places you cant find by just searching for the giantess keyword on world search? VR is great for this fetish, and I need more resources. Please share your wisdom with me, wizards.
>>348822152
They may have started with pure intentions, but they did not end up that way
The choob event was absolutely made into a shit stirring event. The whole point of it was watching people in the thread / discord seethe about it, they also didn't have to make it about sucking off some youtuber attention whore
>>348822174
>have someone call you out for your shittery then the whole thread calls you a piece of shit
>"haha yeah guys im not opposed to changing it, just don't have a melty at me haha"
go ahead and tell your discord tranny friends that you think i samefag too.
>>348822216
Porn makes money, and VR porn sounds like a beautiful idea. However, all VR porn and VR porn games are garbage. (Except VRC)
Shooters are fucking easy since they barely need anything more than movement and point-and-shoot. They're the type of game that people THINK they want in VR (and they are wrong), but this means that they are situated at the very economically rewarding intersection of "in demand" and "easy to do." This intersection is dozens of blocks over from "worth doing" and "valuable," of course.
>>348822502
I love you, Catdog.
>>348822152
>Prom and Valentines
>Not stirring shit
Pretty sure those things stirred a bunch of shit specially with the pairing being mandatory.
It's all well and good to do so and within the rights of the event maker. But let's not deny it stirred shit with people who didn't like double standards.
>>348822395
>a giant senran kara character standing or on her knees in the middle of a pier
One of the vket worlds, the venice looking one.
>>348822174
Not him but you could make it more open and let the community have input rather than just your discord clique
>>348822395
I can't help you with worlds but I can assure you that there are people who are more than willing to indulge you personally if you can find em
>>348822562
There has never been a mandatory pairing event. Take your meds.
>>348822216
GAL GUN VR
>Be me
>Shoot babes and have them moan on a hair's trigger
>See cute favorite kouhai girl
>Can't shoot
>Let her get close
>Push me down
>And kiss me all over
>Game over
Worth it
>>348822502
>>348822562
those ones stirred a lot of shit but I don't think it was as much on purpose, The pairing part was just a meme and not mandatory, and they didn't really convey that well enough
Which two people in VRG are the biggest ideological rivals?
>>348822803
me and (you)
>>348822803
(you) and anon
>>348822561
love you too anon.
>>348822395
That world's name is Vket Core
It will only be available for 5 more days
ACT FAST ANON
>>348822216
Shooters are just something that transitions the easiest out of just anything else ever to VR. It's like paintball or airsoft except it's one 1-2 payments and you don't have to buy any additional gear or waste gas money to go to one. But as the other anon says, they're as abundant as they are suffering from incompetent developers who suffer from acute autism in some form or another. Most simply don't have the gameplay loop there to justify putting your headset on. Most have been played to death in this community and most would rather just hang out and relax with friends in VRChat as anime girls.
>>348822502
I’m gonna miss ur dance events :^(
I’ll send u a streamable of event whenever u unblock me though
>>348823129
no you won't, last time you went to one you came up to me and shouted at me that i was playing shitty music. fwiw i was playing meme song to transition to something more clubby but you decided to be a fucking loud and annoying fratboy. please don't try to pull the pity card. exact songs were dancing in the show tonight by ween going into fangs by ALRT.
>>348822174
First of all, why did you not let the community nominate in a community based event like this?
Second, what are those terrible categories? I can understand wanting to at least let the thread participate but your categories are horrible, I'm not even talking about the personally attacking people "haha melty" but just the inner circle cords voting. Then as aforementioned you may think that these people can "handle the bantz" but you don't realize that most likely you're going to have to let the winner stand up there at your "event" for winning it. Did you really discuss this with them and think about what happens next?
So with that being said, you're telling me I'm supposed to vote on something I had nothing to do with cause I wasn't allowed to nominate and shit on others cause the categories are very circlejerky and are just there to shit on others?
C'mon Krial, it's not samefagging your event wasn't thought through at all and if this isn't your wake up call your next one will be much worse cause it'll be face to face in front of everyone. We can still change this up and make it more fun but a lot needs to change.
>>348822152
S doesn't do anything without the hope of stirring shit, which is fine, it's funny, but no one buys this "uwu just a dance for fwiends" schtick
>>348822174
I can see how this could be a fun little thing for a smaller group of friends, but the categories are calling out individual people, and they only have four slots each, and the nomination process was opaque.
The vast majority of /vrg/ is going to feel left out and disengaged, because the way you've organized this is from asking your friends. It's a small subset of the whole group being represented, because it's entirely dependent on your own social circle, and thus isn't representative or relevant to the group as a whole.
This would have been the kind of event that worked fine in January when /vrg/ was 20 people across all time zones, but now you're running something that's relevant to 20 people and calling it something for a group of hundreds.
I'm not sure how to fix it, but a start might be by listing every event/map instead of just four, and not doing personal user categories at all.
>>348824171
>worked fine in January
January 2018 I mean
What even is time
Where has it all gone
>>348823327
Although this post is autistic as fuck it does make points. Typically there’s a discussion of events thrown around inthread to set it up and take feedback. (Dates, events at the event, etc)
This one has repeat nominees and had no “suggest people for this catagory” voting session. Most award shows give places to nominees because they’re /nominated/ not just chosen because “it fits”
It’s a good concept, gimmicky and circle jerky no doubt, but it had potential and instead it got extra circlejerky when handed a menu to pick from rather than having actual input.
>>348824171
>The vast majority of /vrg/ is going to feel left out and disengaged, because the way you've organized this is from asking your friends.
This. A lot of people may not even go because they don’t care about these people because they’re already feeling left out of the creative and fun parts of events- being included. Things like setting up or giving input to an event makes lurkers and nobodies a desire to go even if they usually avoid meetups like this.
>>348823287
I apologize for shouting at u to turn off nursery rhymes snd was memeing tho
>>348824802
>barely know someone
>come up to them yelling about x thing
>it's just a joke bro
aren't you a normie? you should know this.
>>348816275
duki niggertoes has passive aggressive melties
>>348824949
catdog unblock me I’m crying
Yep voting duki niggertoes for most likely to have a melty for the highschool year book~
>>348824539
>>348824171
Agreed. We should probably help anon here >>348819528
and make the real VRGrammys with chucks and sneeds
I'm more than willing to help out as long as there's actual ground movement to wanting to make it come true.
>>348815670
at least it's better than the usual 4 or 5 random retards that get picked to judge
>>348825740
That's sort of different.
You can't have more than 5-ish judges for costume events.
Technically we can do an audience vote, I've been meaning to develop something akin to that.
Just need some UDON coding to finish it.
Definitely in my backburner of things to do
>>348813328
Be careful about going full ape mode in VR I broke many things this way and they all started with the funny monke noises. It's a dangerous thing your tapping into deep primal energies and monkey brain forget real world sometimes.
Just replying to this post in particular because is quite chaotic at the moment >>348824171 :
Doing an event of any kind, in my experience, has a lot of things that you have to think about, specially for a community this wide that is also sub-divided in smaller groups.
One of the issues when holding or doing an event of any kind, specially when it comes to voting for people or choosing someone for X thing, is trying to be transparent with everyone.
If you put your ideas in the thread, people will say: " Ah, this was posted on the thread it can be easily rigged ". But if you post it or organize it in any of the 20 discords that /vrg/ has, people is gonna complain and say: " Ah, this is a discord tranny event, ree discord trannies you don't belong here! ".
This is my point of view, but I don't see there's any kind of malicious intentions with the vrgramies or wathever is called, is easy to complain to Krial but remember that he didn't organize everything alone, and also he was the one (along with other people), to actually grab people and say " hey guys, you know this idea? ok let's do this idea ". Is easy to complain to someone but no one comes up with ideas to make things better, or well, at least SLIGHTY less worse.
is NOT easy to find a balance that can satisfy all the parties involved
>>348825740
Ultimately the problem is that this amplifies the pre-existing problems we have.
Events pick the same 5 retards to judge everything because no one can coordinate on anyone else. They have name recognition because they're mods in the Discord or have been in the past, or they've run past events, or they've been shitposted in the thread a lot.
No one is going to pick someone else to judge events because why would they? It's all about name recognition and fame. If you're not a /vrg/ micro-celebrity your role in a /vrg/ event is to sit in the audience and validate the legitimacy of the famous people.
>>348822567
>>348822681
>>348823062
Thank you all. With that out of the way, where can you find people, avatars and worlds? I refuse to believe how empty vrchat is of size content when VR chat is probably the best medium for this shit. Share your /size/ anecdotes, tips, and places to get started for resources, please.
>>348826087
it's still the fact that hes using people who didn't ask for this, as his comedy/event
You niggers bullied mommy out, so now we have to embrace this poorly planned circlejerk clown fiesta.
>>348826087
Then just run it in a Discord call with the 20 friends he polled. Scale it to the size that it's appropriate to and don't call it /vrg/ and try to get us all to FOMO into it.
>>348826087
>is NOT easy to find a balance that can satisfy all the parties involved
While I do agree with that sentiment. We have a lot of people who made other events pretty ok before.
He is quite new though that's why I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.
If he can maneuver this properly then it'll be great.
Else, I might help out on the other VRGrammies that will take in consideration more of the thread's input for fun. Or direct input even within the UDON map mechanics.
>newfag makes event based on circlejerk opinions from his friends
Yeah... no...
>>348826254
To get to the sizefag community you must show that you are a sizefag first.Make a sizefag avatar
>>348826450
t. Mommy
>>348826450
speaking of mommy... what happened to the may flower event?
>>348813105
THERE I AM GARY THERE I AM
>>348826850
The May Flower event has been her best event yet IMO.
>>348826850
After the way you all mistreated and backstabbed me I decided you weren’t worth making things for.
Hey, anyone here use Nvidia VRSS? I tried using it but it isn't working. The image is the same. I even pushed my headset against my face so I could see the edges of the lenses clearly, and the aliasing remains the same across the whole image. In fact, the aliasing might (still) be worse in the center, not better. I tried on all MSAA settings, and in both VRChat and Pavlov which should be supported.
>>348819528
To expand on this what other category's should we add for the OFFICIAL /vrg/ Grammys!
I'm dumb and have no idea for other potential grammy spots for nominations but it required me to place in two initial ones. Help
http://poal.me/5qaue3
Instead of a billion poal links it might be better to decide on all the categories in advance and then do a google poll with user submitted answers open.
>>348827536
Makes sense. Mind doing it for us anon? Not too good with handling the googles
>>348826850
Still working on it....last few months have been a bit of a rollercoaster
but I'm still working on it and hope to have it soon
I won't do any other events before I have the flower event done which means I intend to have it cleared awhile before halloween so I can start work on that.
>>348826450
>>348826737
i don't use the gamer word
>>348827536
>>348827608
The poal links are already gaining steam though.
We can easily just compile them later once all poals say has been circulated for 1 week re-bumped on the threads to come.
Then make the final google sheet after that 1 week is up.
>>348827681
>before halloween so I can start work on that
Yeah that's coming soon too. Are you still going to be collabing for it like the first two ones? It has grown pretty healthy so that's nice to see. People really enjoy the cosplaying.
The recent second one we did expand to the EU area.
>>348826254
I actually have no idea how to find people into it other than sheer luck and maybe browsing specific discords
>>348827851
I'm still in planning stages on Halloween.
Traditionally I've done a costume contest but last year's summer costume contest and mona's anime costume contest have me thinking about alternative events.
The problem with the costume contest is the scale of the community now makes actually running them and getting everyone in the same world and the spectators too and getting done with the costume contest in a reasonable time is hard.
I was thinking about an alternative event for Halloween that was simulated door to door trick or treating, That would require a map and I need to think out the concept a bit more though
and i need to finish the flower stuff first
*reads thread*
Ah yes, NA hours
Sorted for readability. The OFFICIAL /vrg/ Grammys (Non-Discord Tranny version)
Cheers kippis kanpai! - Most insufferable drunk
http://poal.me/kor3a0
Sleepy time! Most likely to sleep during this event
http://poal.me/6xk9x
Best of times - Best event of the year
http://poal.me/lqra6x
On the Carlton - Best event outfit of the year
http://poal.me/r8al5k
You made this? We made this - Best inhouse map of the year
http://poal.me/lqzm2x
Just 5 more minutes... - Worst sleep schedule
http://poal.me/28kw70
Social butterfly - Life of the party
http://poal.me/5afxfh
Chris Chan Progenitor - Most likely to be on the spectrum
http://poal.me/694tuz
I have no Mouth and I must Scream - Best mute
http://poal.me/41ldkz
#melty-zone - Most likely to have a melty because of this event
http://poal.me/a32h5n
Pypy plug helps, really! - Best pypy dancer
http://poal.me/3c22i
Donut steal - Most unique avatar
http://poal.me/qpdecj
"I just came on my crocs" - Most degenerate
http://poal.me/hvdqfj
GOAT - Most based of all time
http://poal.me/y53ltx
>>348826695
Not sure how to make avatars. I have an extensive porn collection, though.
>>348827969
Damn. Wish me luck, but if anyone can help, help is welcome.
>>348828193
please do a trick or treating event, it would space the people out across the map and it would be WAY more fun. costume "contests" are too focused on the judging and contest part, rather than just having fun and making something. more people will participate in a halloween costume event where everyone can go door to door around a fun map and find places to hang out besides spawn or one crowded room people crash/lag inseriously please i want to trick or treat so badly
Since tierlists seem to be quite popular I wanted to pick up an idea from the previous thread:
Tierlists, but all the icons need to be self-drawn. No comissions or Request. Either that or only from other anons if we want to be less strict. Of course it would be a few months from now since we just had a run of tierlist posts.
Thoughts?
>>348827707
>>348828215
In a week I'll make a google doc with the top 4 people in each category and then another week from then we'll have the final results
>>348828321
lol fuck off
>>348827681
I understand that you are human and not perfect in any sense and I respect what you done for the community during these years but I dislike how you handle things lately. I thought you were mature enough to not have certain behaviours
>>348828193
Well do keep us in the loop. Makes sense there have been a lot of costume contest. Try not to scope it too big that not even collaboration can help it come to fruition.
If you got some ideas, the whole team is still there willing to help.
I'll see if I can think of a way for it to work as a door to door trick or treating.
That would require teaching everyone how to make a home world possibly.
Sounds like major scope creep though.
Test of Courage would be much more doable
>>348828193
>i need to finish the flower stuff first
at this point putting the flowers in the halloween map might be a good option unless you're close to finishing it anyway
>>348828495
this, just wilt the flowers and put it in a dead flowerbed
>>348828215
For branding reasons it's best not to include the (non-discord) part of the title.
We already have the properly named /vrg/ in the title and the word OFFICIAL.
And not sure if you missed it but here's for us brainstorming potential other nomination spots
>>348827309
http://poal.me/5qaue3
>>348828539
no just have a really nice flower garden or something
you can always reuse them on another mommy's flower garden map at some other point
this is assuming mommy has been lawyer procrastinating and hasn't started
if it's close to being finished then just finish it
>>348828712
WILT THE FLOWERS
WILT THE FLOWERS
>>348828321
Going to be better to contain all tierlists to /trash/ when possible.
We do have that "unfinished" shooting map I've tried to make last year...
Sadly it's so god damned laggy I need optimization passes on it before it's actually ready for release.
>>348828629
Alright I'll drop that bit in the future. I'll add categories that get at least 10 votes on that poal.
>Events
August 31 - Official /vrg/ Grammys Final Vote
September 7th - Official /vrg/ Grammys Official Results Announcement
I don't think there's been this poor of a reception to an event in a while. Most events get shit on but people still go, but this one it sounds like people won't even go
>>348828810
I wouldn't mind having it in /trash/, but I'd rather have it as a separate thread from /vrlg/.
All my homies hate discord niggers
>>348828435
The half-thought out concept I have for Halloween so far is like 8ish houses with staff in them for trick or treating.
I don't have a concept yet for if the person gets anything or does a puzzle or what but probably need something like that
the helpers would also take pictures
If I go this route I'll probably have to recruit some help for map creation
which leads into this
>>348828428
One of the issues I've had recently is that I feel the bar for events has risen substantially. This is great because it means we get better events, but the organization stuff is hard.
In the early days, you just have to come up with a concept and get people on board and that was pretty easy.
These days it's a lot harder.
The D&D event we had last year was great but the map was very scuffy in the end and we barely got through it by the skin of our teeth. The event went well but it really gave me a lot of respect for how hard these things are. And it was only as good as it was because people who are a lot more talented than me worked very hard and I couldn't have done it without them.
There are some groups doing events right now that are really talented and doing great maps and I think I've made the mistake of biting off more than I can chew with events in the past.
It's hard to know what behavior you're talking about specifically but I do feel that I need to step up things with the event organizing.
>>348826348
any proof of this? has there been a complaint from any of the nominees? has anyone asked them if they gave permission to be nominees? maybe they aren't okay with it in which case something should be changed, but this all sort of feels like another stampede of headless chickens trying to be mad at anything. get some data before you get all worked up.
>>348828428
shut the fuck up ESL, mommy is trying her hardest and you better appreciate it
>>348829201
>It's hard to know what behavior you're talking about specifically but I do feel that I need to step up things with the event organizing.
Behavior is simple. I'll be as honest as I can here since we're anonymous.
You've never given thanks to those who helped you. Treating them as recruits not as collaborators. Trying to gain all the glory without properly thanking and giving credit to those who actually make the big events happen when they help.
Hope this helps some clarity. At the end of the day we're all just autists wanting to have fun. So chin up and start introspecting. Maybe you have a few DMs or people in VRchat you want to talk to and thank personally.
>>348829326
if they complained about it wouldn't they be the ones being called party poopers? "aww man x, ill take you out but we really wanted you in there,,,,"
>>348828316
what would the houses hand out? would the houses be automated, or would there be people at each of them actually handing things out?
would there be anything at each house other than just candy, or could/would some people do haunted houses, or small games, or halloween parties in them?
>>348829482
in that circumstance there'd be an obligation for the people running the thing to make it perfectly clear that not accepting a nomination is totally fine and not a problem at all. but do we even have that situation?
>>348829201
I'm talking about that little performance you did related to voting and still trying to be the one in charge in the discord.
>>348829738
You're not allowed to talk about that.
>>348829027
i'm still going
the valentines and prom events get shitposted 1000x more and people make alternate events and lobbies and shill for people to go to those instead
it's just those events were made by actual thread shitposters like myself so we shill and gaslight people to go to the events even more than they got shitposted
>>348826254
There are size worlds where you can shrink and grow yourself, also a world where you're in some kind of a machine and when you exit it, you become big enough that the people inside are toy sized got rock hard from it but nobody knew
>>348829709
not one single nominee has messaged me anything other than laughing about it and or wanting to plan a victory speech lol. The only meltdown message I received so far was posted earlier in the thread
Sounds like a boring event made only to create drama
>>348828949
>>348828215
In the spirit of the event is it possible for most everything picked to be nice fren?
>>348830026
The previous drama events had soul. This is just a discord circlejerk thing.
>>348830247
Does this work on Nvidia cards?
>>348829452
Oh I see. I try to give people thanks but I can see what you're saying, I probably have done that.in the past
but generally i'm untalented and need people to help me with things and that's why i've been struggling
>>348829738
oh the discord drama
I didn't handle it well but it probably was time for things to change
I'm glad I'm not in charge of all that anymore
>>348830132
A good drama event needs subtlety of putting people in an undesireable spot, this is just a glorified "who's more (category)"
>>348813105
I'll attend anything else that is hosted that evening. Even if it is a trash eventnot even a lewder
>>348829584
i would think it'd be fun to stand at a house and hand out candy (a hand prop, not a pickup, so people don't steal the whole thing). i think the main focus should be atmosphere since some people will probably rush through to find their friends if they're late to join. i would like to see anything that at least encourages people to not be stuck in one room or at spawn, though. one map that i saw people hang out at the end of was that halloween map with the tf2 ghost models floating through and it was just a bunch of copy pasted houses and walkways.
>>348830354
Yes I'm using it right now and it's great.
>>348822174
Seriously?
I thought the whole grammy thing was ironic, and you were just shilling a terribly made event on purpose for whatever shitposty reason
are you actually serious? a whole nomination event, with 4 choices each category, where literlaly noone but you and/or your personal friend circle came up with categories and nominations? And yet you shill it across the thread and discord(s) as if it were a communitywide event?
>>348830650
Nice. I'll give it a read and try it out. Hope it doesn't fuck up Link compression.
>>348830580
yeah atmosphere is more important
the problem with handing out items is that the spawning system needs to be fairly well thought out
if you spawn items and don't destroy them someone will spawn 1 million and crash the map
i'm not sure how important handing items out is to the actual mechanics of the event
on the other hand, trick or treating and not actually getting things is weird too
one way to deal with this i was playing around with was that instead of giving treats, each of the trick or treat stations played a trick
>>348830681
You genuinely hate to see it.
>>348822693
valentines day dance required you to have a partner to get in. In fact it was a whole thing where people who wanted to participate got paired up randomly, and then to get into the dance proper, you needed someone with you (granted it was pretty lenient) or you weren't let in
>>348830686
>Link
Alright to be fair I have no idea if that's going to work well or not, as I use a headset with a normal wire connection.
>>348830826
t. Didn't go
>>348830905
It was advertised like that though. That people had to pair up
>>348830905
I did, in fact go. And really only went because someone else who wanted to go asked me to be their +1
you had Jr and orb running around as security, with sticks that sent you to a jail cell if they bopped you with it.
they were really lenient about it, you could literally say the person standing next to you no matter who they were, were your date and it was fine, but it was still definitely advertised and handled, initially, as if it was going to be way more unironically serious
I hate the americans so fucking much
god I wish we had flags on this board so I could filter them all out
>>348830026
>Sounds like a boring event
One of my big gripes with the event is that I don't see how people not involved with the organization are actually involved during the event itself besides either being a passive nominee or a passive observer.
The only active part for the vast majority of people, the voting, happens a week beforehand and is done within a minute probably. And then, what? We just sit there and patiently wait for anouncers to orate who won what, and someone occasionally goes up and says a silly line?
Have they forgotten that award ceremonies are insanely boring to be at, unless (and sometimes even if) you get a price?
I guess you also get the opportunity to make a dress. Modelling is always nice, but we've had better events for dresses, like the Valentine's and Prom dances.
That they are being secretive with the event to the point that people in the thread hadn't even known about it for the longest time doesn't help me seeing anything good in it.
>>348820631
At least I have money to throw around ;)
So catdog if you're still here are you going to host a dance night on september 25? I'll come join if you are.
>>348831158
unfortunately vrg is a community that doesn't deserve interactive events. whether it's the thread or the discord or in game, literally anything that requires popular participation turns directly into sewage within 3.5 nanoseconds. I genuinely think that a lot of the drama around events like this, and the others, is from people who just have much higher hopes for this community than anyone can reasonably have, and who simply haven't had those hopes properly dashed against the rocks. yet.
what the fuck can be done about that?
i'm really asking. what the fuck can be done? what sort of event would you do that wouldn't just be an ice cream machine filled with piss and shit?
>>348830681
>>348831158
Exactly what these guys said. It's one thing to have a dumb event and shill it, but to make it such that only a small subset of discordfags have influence on who gets nominated and then advertise it here is just retarded. K should have just left it as a discord-only event to begin with.
>>348831308
i could yeah. ive been signing on to play for some clubs and stuff. have something im doing this sat but its uh, TDAs. so take as you will, feel free to join on me at any time. i have another super secret thing planned that hopefully goes well but im open to dj that day :)
>>348831013
holy shit man how new do you have to be to see this nigger advertising an event saying "no singles" and think that it is anything other than a meme?
>>348831602
>I was only pretending to be retarded
>>348813105
Oh nice a literal bait event made for the purpose of spreading drama. Any and all the people attending this event are literally not /vrg/ and just a bunch of trannycorders. Please delete and leave the thread.
>tfw I’m going to be on vacation during this event
based timing, glad I’m not going.
>>348831367
we've had pretty decent events before.
people expect too much out of an event. vrg events started just as excuses for making avatars or outfits. people seem to have forgotten this. Anything else is just bonus. "events" were just a group photo to memorialize all the outfits or avatars people made for an occasion, like haloween, or easter, christmas, etc etc, and then people started making their own occasions. it's why the choobie and kon thing felt so organic. it was people hating on the choobie meme hard enough to spawn a counter avatar meme.
or the cowboys vs cyberpunk one. there was no need for a fancy setup or anything, it was just make a themed avatar, and take part on a laggy group photo
>>348831158
Voting events are cringe
Making avatar events are based
>>348831846
Both have value.
Organic event and Structured event.
One is more chill while the other aims for a more unique experience.
There's no need to fight when we can have both types of events
>>348831264
not me btw
>>348831846
Choobie really was rent-free for a while.
>>348831367
>i'm really asking. what the fuck can be done? what sort of event would you do that wouldn't just be an ice cream machine filled with piss and shit?
>"hey I like this for an avatar theme, let me shill it as an avatar event"
>"hey everyone, x event coming up y week of z month! get those avatars ready!!"
and then shill it. And see who goes for it.
it's that simple
>>348831981
what i'm saying is that even a structured event doesnt need to be too overcomplicated. because then you get event feature creep. Like yuru's contests. where it went from just "ok this person won the contest" to "we need MORE to the point where ok the winner wins a steam gift card. or the event falls behind because yuru (or whoever else) can't decide how to make it more interesting, etc
Sometimes less is more, even for a structured event.
We have the secret santa thing every year, and that is probably the most structured event. but it's still relatively simple, the only thing that gets more sophisticated, is how the map is handled for it, but mainly in terms of "how can we make this work better" not just 'how can we cram more features"
>>348820339
Didn't see that I nominated you, yet you seem to have the biggest melty of them all.
Drop your name so I can add you.
>>348832338
that's the other thing, the choices are garbage, man.
half the time, what might be a fun question, i look at the choices and scratch my head
>>348831367
Speed dating, Sports festival, Secret Santa, Easter Egg Hunt and /vrg/ vault all went well without as much drama. Might be a good idea to analyze what has been done well on those events from shilling, production to implementation that made them a little bit more unique while creating as little drama as possible.
Advertised exclusively in the thread.
>>348832470
Well, drop your name and we have one more choice :)
>mfw when the bait event is working better than intended
You guys are literally falling for the most obvious bait made to rustle the community's Jimmies. Report and ignore it. We aren't a popularity contest
>>348832265
>"how can we make this work better" not just 'how can we cram more features"
Really resonating with you on that point.
Polish is something that needs improvement now more than ever rather than just adding more features.
>>348831846
those sorts of events are the non-interactive type. "just show up. wear a costume. full stop". vrg can do that.
vrg definitely cannot do anything that requires participants to make specific actions, good faith participation, voting, organization, or anything like these.
why are people complaining about this event? two reasons: nominations weren't open, and people nominated in some categories might have their feelings hurt.
to begin with those two complaints are completely irreconcilable, since open nominations would be completely free to nominate anyone for anything, and saying "oh well we won't let them be an official nominee if they don't want to be" won't change anything about the fact that the whole thread/community/whatever already fucking voted and spat in their face that "everybody thinks you're a fucking annoying autist"
but beyond that, what kind of fucking event do you think it would/will actually be with everyone free to vote on shit? i don't give a shit if it's anonymous or not, or if you can reliably limit people to one vote per person, or if you can gatekeep only people who have been around for however long is long enough. it's gonna be a fucking shitpost memefest. just like every poal in the thread and just like the orb vote. if you really think the community at large, undifferentiated, can come together to do good things with any reliability, then welcome to what must be your first fucking day on 4chan.
as far as hurting people's feelings, this is a complaint that nobody has actually proven is substantive. or even claimed it's substantive. or even implied it's substantive. where are the angry, upset people? even just the idea, like a shitpost about "oh well they're too shy to say it but someone dmed me saying they were really upset" (inb4 exactly that in the next post). maybe i wouldn't have made categories like this, since they're bant-y, and i'm not much for bants. but they're hardly as bad as 4chan is known for. what would you use?
>Trannies lose the OP
>Trannies get their events dabbed in
Threadchads keep on winning.
Can we talk about VR now? NA go to bed
>>348832683
didn't read lmao, learn to make your shit more concise my dude
>>348832683
>vrg definitely cannot do anything that requires participants to make specific actions, good faith participation, voting, organization, or anything like these.
Sports Festival was pretty intense in participation necessary from atlethes and staff.
The Lenticular lense play was pretty on point to for those who participated at least.
But both do have a section who are just watching from the sidelines and cheering. How to solve this? Does it even need to be solved?
>>348832853
yeah, these events were a limited group of people doing an event where the community just had to show up. that's what we have now with this grammy thing.
>>348832784
But...b-but...mixed drinks monday...
>>348832784
VR events are pretty on-topic.
Isn't it interesting how events in real life are recreated in their weird versions in Virtual Reality? Exciting, thrilling
>showing up to the event
>crash the map
>problem?
>>348833024
Really wish he'd pluralize cats there, the ambiguity bothers meThere are two of us you know
>>348832990
>Popularity contest
>On topic
Ok drama fag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_5vdYj2iI0
Can we get a /vrg/ cover of this?
>>348832934
The thing is I shilled for 2.5 months for the sports festival and got the maximum amount of players willing to participate. I don't think we can change that. There will always be people willing to go the distance while some prefer to just chill and cheer for their friends.
And that's alright.
Forcing participation sounds anal too in a way.
>>348833024
>haha more seething
>muh money
damn you weren't kidding, for someone who's clearly a normalfag and has a wife or w/e he sure acts like a 14 year old
>>348833104
I only know one Cat(Dog)
>>348832934
>>348833357
Quick help find a way for audience to be able to participate in a way as well for big events. Something interactive, even something silly
I dont understand. I really dont fucking understand. how can people put up with this shit?
When are people going to wake the fuck up and realize that all these super planned "big events" are just another way of controlling the community? oh, are you going to the big event? you ARE going right?? well yeah of course you need a partner to go, youre not some kind of LOSER are you?
events are just a way for the normies with their brain virus that compels them to take over any social order they can find and pressure anyone they dont like to conform or leave like this is highschool all over again. look at how vrg has been (deliberately) culture shifted to turn into a fucking frathouse filled with normies running their circlejerk popularity contests (sorry, "events") while ostracising the people that VR is supposed to be for.
Seriously, you fucking assholes have a whole real world to ruin, why do you have to invade the one fucking place that was supposed to be safe from you?
Kill yourselves.
>>348832853
It's good not to involve everyone in every event. If we do, we'll all get burnt out. Sometimes it's nice just to be the audience who shows up and enjoys the show.
>>348833490
Breath anon. Breath. It's all voluntary.
Why you hef to be mad.
>>348833490
based
>>348831846
>people expect too much out of an event. vrg events started just as excuses for making avatars or outfits. people seem to have forgotten this.
For the record, I am >>348831158 and I actually initially thought it was just an avatar event with a themed map, which I like a lot. But it doesn't seem to be focused on avatars or the map.
>>348833490
Not all events like that, some of the organizers do try in good faith to create something that everyone can enjoy.
I do agree that some of the events have not been in good faith and it's not a good thing when you see organizers gloating about people seething about their event.
>>348833490
take your meds
>>348833490
>oh, are you going to the big event? you ARE going right??
just tell them no, lol nigga how hard is that
>>348833490
what should we do instead? drink and make small talk in public worlds forever? What does your ideal /vrg/ do?
When's the next real event?
The *make a custom avatar in this theme* even
Are we doing nothing for 9/11? Seriously?
people got too lazy with the rise of pre-made booth avatars, and newfags just never even learned to customize a model to begin with because of them. this is what caused the death of costume events.
>>348833759
This community is too big to do events all together, it's a battleship that can't turn.
Groups of friends here can work together on maps and host a debut night for them, with whoever wants to show up. That's the interactive type of "event."
For the other kind, we just decide in the thread we want to do a themed avatar thing, and then people show up that weekend in the themed avatar and take some photos. Easy.
>>348833802
See pic related
Teaser reveal dun dun dunnnnnnn
Okay I finished up the handmade Spaceman Model I was working on for the past few days.
Let me know what you think!
t. k
https://streamable.com/r9deox
Showing Teekyuu 9 and On Your Mark instead of a movie tonight, and it'll be starting a bit late at 10:30PM EDT instead of 10PM. I'll post details to join off of when the instance is up.
>>348834506
>teekyuu
lets GOOOOOOOOO
>>348834110
Finally a real event
>>348834383
Jesus christ what is that head
>>348834506
wait anon when are we watching the teekyuu spinoff season?
https://anilist.co/anime/21079/Takamiya-Nasuno-Desu-Teekyuu-Spinoff
>>348834907
It's a square.
>>348829868
Know the names?
>>348836060
The crane one is called friendly crane game, or something similar
i love my freinds so much dude
>>348836171
>>348836060
https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_a5e9a5a0-1d46-487b-b377-5b90fbf1d046
hadn't thought that people might find this world arousing when we were there. neat.
>>348833986
But that's exactly what's happening already?
>>348821790
We play VR games for like 10 hours then never talk about them again
>>348836894
because they're garbage
PLEASE PLAY PAYDAY 2 WITH ME TOMORROW PLEASE, I'M NA SO LET'S DO IT.
Play Outer Wilds in VR.
>>348837005
I'll play with you again tomorrow.
>>348837124
Unironically do this, it's great.
>>348837165
Okay cool.
>>348826087
>If you put your ideas in the thread, people will say: " Ah, this was posted on the thread it can be easily rigged ".
uw0tm8
How exactly would an event idea "be rigged" by merely being presented in the thread? Either way, even if true, it'd still be preferrable to decision processes being opaque.
People tend to be more understanding and lenient when they are actually given reasons as to why X or Y was done, even if they disagree with it.
Anyone got any input on the painting apps/sim games that exist, like Vermillion, PaintingVR, Kingspray Graffiti? I'm no good at art but these look really relaxing and a nice way to just toy about.
please make another picrew tierlist and PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE INCLUDE ME IN IT
>>348839052
Haven't tried any of those, but I've seen one VRC graffiti map that people had a lot of fun with.
>>348839148
This, but unironically
>>348839148
>>348839331
also download all the images I'm pretty sure 10 or even more are missing
>>348837124
Sounds unironically terrifying beyond belief.
>Make an Avatar I like
>Get it all customized
>start working on another one
>never use the old one again
>get the new one all set up
>Start working on another one
I'm never going to have a recognizably "this is me" avatar for use in images and picrew tierlists and such.
>>348839541
Exactly it's great.
It's pretty funny that I see the randomly generated ones I made in the tier lists
>>348839435
people are leaving out people they don't recognize
it's a shit picrew there's better ones out there with more options
>dot comes to me and says hi
>headpats me
>talks to me and calls me cute
>gets off vr
>join off him while hes in desktop
>calls me names and says im a nigger
>get off and cry in my sleep
how do i make him talk to me again?
>>348839541
yespost yfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5vG4Be1Ci8[/spoiler]
>>348839901
Wait until he's in VR again. In desktop he's in gay denial mode.
>>348839642
>>348840047
>get to brittle hollow and cant look down or I piss myself
>get flung into space via giants deep tornadoes and have heart attack while the pilot reclining there on a hammock is just chilling
>get flung into the sea on giants deep, stare at the core for hours and develop thalassophobia
>crushed by rising sand, hear watermelon.mp4, develop claustrophobia
>fly into the sun and have to close my eyes until it's over
>heart rate through the roof navigating the deadly slip and slide world of the interloper
>dark bramble
Unironically you're asking for unbridled terror. I cant imagine the fucking eye segment in vr. Is the new dlc out yet?
Play project wingman
>>348840154
Yes, play it. Also no the DLC isn't out yet and I'm 100% playing it in VR.
>>348839901
fuck off dot
When can we have a separate VRChat general and VR gaming general? Cringe anime weeb LARPing is not a game.
>>348840338
Make one
See what happens
>>348840531
It will get flooded with VRChat idiots. The differentiation needs to start with the LARPers.
>>348840338
This gets suggested over and over again.
There is not enough VR content to sustain a VR thread without VRC, so it fails, again and again and again and people never learn. VRC is the monkey's paw of "I wish people played VR". It keeps people with headsets, it keeps people in the thread, and it keeps a base of people who CAN play VR games.
>>348840653
I'd rather a slow creeping chat about actual games than a delusional waifu shitfest that I've got to pick proper content out of in between cringe stories about grown men getting head pats.
>>348840758
Try and make it
>>348840758
Make one.
See what happens.
Be the chance that you want to see. Don't wait for others to do it.
>>348840531
>>348840824
>>348840839
I already know what'll happen. You petulant not-discord-promise-rs will come in and flood it with "kawaii ugu no I AM the little anime girl here are my pantsus pat pat pat" shitposts
>>348841135
Maybe it'll work this time, anon.
Maybe you are the chosen one.
>>348840653
Actually we've grown so much that I think this isn't true anymore. We can move out to a /vrcg/ and leave /vrg/ to see if it can be sustained on other games alone.
Also I don't care about who inherits the soccer team anymore.
>>348841315
I mean, you'd need to get the people here to rename it to vrcg. Apart from that, I agree
>>348829738
that only happened because a certain someone had a melty first because mom wouldnt bend over for them. The fact theyre still in any position of power after they pulled that shit astounds me.
>spend more time on making avatars = miss out on hanging out with friends
>hang out with friends = no work on avatar
I can't balance it out, help
I can't take this out since yesterday https://youtu.be/YPN0qhSyWy8
Thanks to that world
>>348841790
Just come hang out with your friends at our comunity event:
Vrgrammys, sept 25th. Speaking of.
Voting for VRGrammys ends next Sunday FYI. Make sure to cast your ballots. Promise I’m counting them. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1qnrt3w4sO17ITH4UN-IvkmonyuGC2Y0Uh-wOTkbjWM8/edit
>>348841872
GET OUT OF MY HEAD TODD, I DON'T WANT TO BUY SKYRIM AGAIN
>>348842048
this is so incredibly cringe that it's bordering unmockable, just sad.
>>348842048
Do it again
If I notice I'll give a little show
>>348822174
Having actual thread nominated nominees would be nice instead of you DMing some friends in the Discord. Your way is making it very Discord circlejerky and timezone circlejerky and this is /vrg/, not Discord.
so what exactly is substance painter even used for since I've read that it has FBX support for whole models?
good morning frens
>>348842725
good morning fren
>>348837124
I will continue it soon...
>>348841924
Nah fuck your popularity event
>>348842832
you better, tomorrow
>>348840590
>>348841135
I mean, it's been attempted before and this didn't happen. It simply couldn't keep off the ground since other games haven't got much to talk about. Seriously though feel free to try and see how it goes instead of crying about it.
>>348840338
It's been done before, just because you get rid of the VRC drama posts doesn't magically increase the number of VR game posts so it usually dies out pretty fast.
>>348842715
painting
it's basically just a photoshop like made entirely just for painting 3d models
>>348843306
sounds perfect, do you reckon it'd be a decent way to just add stuff onto the texture, considering it would let you have a 3d preview of it? I can't be bothered with photoshop most of the time
>>348842715
Baking, reference texturing, procedural textures, applying decals that realistically deform with curvature, etc
>>348842875
is not me chief I stopped replying a while ago lol
>>348842725
>>348842827
gm FRENS
>>348843448
I'm not going to any popularity event
Cope.
>>348844569
KIRK RAID TO MAHJOOM
https://streamable.com/1uy6m9
>>348817858
Oh is it time to spit roast that one bloke?
>>348813105
EU-bros...Probably for the best to keep it all NA focused since only NA will be voted for anyway
>>348846162
i couldn't care less
>>348846162
I'd be surprised if most of EU even cared about that event.
>>348846162
If the event is locked to 1 timezone, the results are not canon
>>348822502
pls accept my fr onegai
>>348846162
This is the one time I'm happy for an event to be NA only
>>348846162 >>348846254
>>348846316 >>348846315
There's another counter one happening that is fully voted on the thread.
>>348828215
Still sort of a popularity thing though.
I wonder how one can make the categories be uplifting rather than just popularity.
>>348846519
>There's another counter one happening that is fully voted on the thread.
I still couldn't care less, but that's just me, do what you want
I got thrown into a popularity contest one time and I can't say I enjoyed it that much
Still thankful for all my friends who voted
Would you?
>>348847714
votekick? yes
>>348847714
i would invite you to private instance, thenwait for avatar to load, exit the game, and rip it, because this loose top looks pretty great and i love it
>>348846315
EU here. Keep this drama stuff in the NA timezone. kthx
>>348847714
Hard to tell looking at just this picture but I would probably cuddle and enjoy it. No lewd. Looks sofft and big.
Reminder that an open "relationship" isn't a relationship and you're both disgusting people and everyone is judging you, even those who you fuck.
Re-posting
VR Book Club
STRAW POLL!
Please do vote for all the books you want to read for this new season.
Top 3 books will be winners in order.
Googling the choices should net easy results to know the summary of what kind of book we're going into
https://www.strawpoll.me/45598103
https://www.strawpoll.me/45598103
Thanks for taking the time anon~
>>348847714
Absolutely haram.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07x_k7oHr_U
Finally managed to rope a mate into playing this and it's honestly one of the best games on the platform.
>>348849157
How does it compare to the VRchat prefab for table tennis?
>>348849157
I really want this game but only have $7 in my steam wallet for the foreseeable future
>>348849286
I haven't played it in VRC, I would assume the delay would make it pretty hard to play right? We only had 10ms so it was super snappy. Eleven seems to get all the physics down really well too. The spin on the ball through the air and off the table and paddles feels really nice, you can do all kinds of serves and trick shots and they all seems to work as you expect.
>>348848447
it's so awkward when you finish fucking someone and then they start talking about their boyfriend
>>348849943
Honestly I'd find that cute, fucking someone and then cuddling while talking about someone they care alot about. Then you can fuck their boyfriend too and tease them with all the nice things that was said about them
>>348850132
>>348849943
What you ever thought about tired not using your cock to think?
Go back to >>>/trash/
>>348847714
Burn alive with extreme prejudice? Yes I would.
>>348850483
>What you ever thought about tired not using your cock to think?
Are you ok anon?
>>348849943
It's awkward as fuck seeing someone constantly talk about being fucked by someone else each fucking day and then they act all "cutesy" around their """"bf"""". You people are sick in the head.
>>348850483
based stroke poster still brings the message across
Do any of the lewd mods work with Fallout 4 VR?
>>348850617
>>348850769
I really should read what I type before pressing post
Explain the Krial Situation please
>>348851392
catdog had a bad first impression of someone again and sperged out in the thread posting discord dms
>>348851392
Read the thread(s)
>>348851516
Catdog has a very negative view of him due to what he did since krial rejoined vrg
>/v/ is full of salty poorfags
>/vrg/ is literally nothing but VR chat tranny attention whoring and circlejerking
>nowhere to discuss VR games
I guess I can always wait 20 years and hope /vr/ is better.
Haha yeah thts cool.
What about VR games though, or VR stuff?
Anybody saw that video about the patents Valve registered? Wild shit huh?
>>348852036
Yeah I mean I literally know none of you and yet the kind of people who sperg out that hard paint themselves a certain shade and it isn't a good one
how fast of internet do you need for vr chat. Is it always constantly downloading worlds and character skins and such. I have extremely shit internet so i dont know if its even worth the time
>>348852138
>>348852107
Sorry too busy jizzing myself on the potential of cheap FBT that works UNDER SHEETS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqxIOS-0nWk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqxIOS-0nWk
>>348852138
Any vr games coming out soon or came out recently worth getting excited for?
>>348851563
thread long and words numerous and brain small
>>348852370
Hey, what are you doing? Please don't interrupt the conversation about Literally Who's feud with Who Gives a Shit.
>>348852246
yeah im thinking ill buy these when they get better
>>348852440
Just read it and make your own opinion.
>>348847714
surprisingly good looking furry avatar, probably would as long as it is not piloted by a girl
>>348852246
Cool shit, but what kills it for me is the sliding/drifting.
I don't want to see that at a 3 digit price range
>>348852724
It does have a bit of slide but the way my hybrid setup is working right now anyways my hips are shooting off in all direction this would be an improvement I think.
>>348852370
Nope, there's not really much to do.
>>348852370
Myst Remake on PC tomorrow. It looks groovy from all footage of it so far.
>>348853094
Oh shit, I forgot that was a thing, I might pick it up
>>348852575
mate, i need clear black and white situation and holy fuck has krial gone cringe what is this circlejerk "event"?
>>348852578
idk it looks like a boy to me, anon.
>>348852370
Everslaught is recent and has people with 10-20 hours in the positive reviews, as opposed to most tech demos' 0.7 hour reviews. I'll probably pick it up soon.
>>348853205
the face is rather feminine but you could be right
>>348834383
i like it!
i think the helmet could be improved slightly its just an orange orb it seems.
maybe you can make the sides and top the same white texture as your body like in pic
t.spaceman
>>348852370
carrier command 2 is still on the radar after they got a devastating feedback on their vr implementation they said they gonna improve it.
still refunded and bought humankind because i do not trust companies anymore
>>348853296
Yeah face may be feminine but thats just how those furry femboys like it to be especially when they come from second life and such
>>348853226
Looks interesting, let us know how it is if you buy it
>>348852370
Vertigo 2 and Lone Echo 2 are coming out eventually. Hopefully.
Business idea: 2D VR game
>>348853498
How would that work? Lowploy mite be better, check out games like compound
>>348853396
probably, the second life avatars were pretty atrocious but there are some good looking femboy furries in vrchat
>>348853180
It's a popularity contest entirely advertised at every discord, and then advertised on this thread, in this event with the nominees localized entirely and voted by his innercircle.
Then brings and advertises it as a community event with what some anon says as mean categories meant to "bantz" people in a mean way ala frat boy.
That's the best I can summarize it but I am impartial. I think it can be done better but he can do what he wants to do. And he is quite new to the community and can improve from the feed back he is receiving now hopefully.
>>348852991
BUN!
Kind anon, can you tell me where you got those?
And if those are not yours, can you tell me where you found the image?
>>348853498
Like a pop up book?
Or projected onto a flat surface?
>>348854173
Bunny pins from etsy
>>348854315
>>348853674
I admit this post was intended as a shitpost, but after a bit of mental gymnastics i have come up with something that could be plausible altho pretty unviable.
When you look at a sphere, you can see the part that is on your side. so you can play on that, but the rest is not revealed, only if you move the sphere or yourself. so you have 3 Dimensions. when you now move the point of view inside the sphere, you can observe theoretically the entire survace of that from your point.
in a theoretical 2D vrgame, the action would have to happen on that planewhie you are stationary in the center
>>348852905
Let us know how it works out though!
>>348841979
You know you want to. You will pay for the fishing minigame.
>>348854707
You should check out Pixel Ripped 1989
I has a lot of similarities of what you are proposing (even though it is a bit shit)
>>348854737
I'm pre-ordering the basic set the moment it's up
>>348854962
You didn't need to cut me up
>>348855371
aaaaaaAAAAAHHH
One of you faggots answer my question from earlier. I'll give you a hint as to which post it was: it's the one that isn't an attentionwhoring circlejerk about your VRChat tranny friends.
>>348855371
>>348855680
Agnus Dei, qui tollis peccata mundi, dona nobis pacem.
>>348830461
>>348841442
>wouldn't bend
>I didn't handle it well
that's the thing, is not about handling it or bending to someone, is was about having a little bit of retrospective, step back and say: "ok maybe my way isn't the only way to do things around"
>>348822695
based gal gun chadyou're not playing gal gun 1 though, are you?
>>348857127
Gal gun 2 is a pretty good rail shooter
What games would you give a VR remake?
>>348857404
FTL
>>348849286
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
The VRC prefab is boiled donkey anuses.
Eleven is GOOD.
>>348857404
SS13, honk honk.
>>348853226
I have purchased and played everslaught.
It's okay. Gets repetitive but it has enough of a gameplay loop to actually want to play... but it's lacking variety. And the challenge takes a long time to kick in; it feels way too easy for the first couple hours.
>>348830247
This is basically like AMD's open source version of DLSS, right?
>>348857404
I think it would make the transition pretty easily
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjJyIdObjkE
>>348857404
I was wondering if a game like G Police should be good in VR with updated graphics
>>348847714
Wouldcuddlewith extreme prejudice
>>348857826
What I wouldn't give for G police or soviet strike.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyQ5Jf7cpLY
>>348857404
Zeno Clash.
>>348857743
I have this game but for some reason I could never wrap my head around the controls, like papa the rapper, I make the right button presses but says I'm doing bad
>>348857404
Black and White in VR... One day we might get a decent VR god-game, maybe...
I hope I expect you to die 2 is still a good game but when I see this on the store page
>Rub shoulders with John Juniper, celebrity extraordinaire, voiced by famed actor Wil Wheaton
I get a bad feeling that it might suck.
>>348858662
>papa the rapper
That aside, in parappa the timing is fucked and is actually secretly judging how good your freestyle is. Gitaroo doesn't have anything like that though so you might just have shit rhythm.
>>348859157
>secretly judging how good your freestyle is
explain
>>348813105
uh, escuse me? B Club is not a vrg map and never was designed to be.
Please remove this from the selection.
Thank you, subscribe to my patreaon.
>>348859250
When they give you the verse to rap, if you simply repeat it back you'll be rappin' good at best, instead you should be inserting extra button presses and mixing up the timing. It's why you can get away with spamming buttons and still get to cool if most of the inputs end up being in rhythm.
>>348859847
It's for maps made by vrg not for vrg.
Unless B B doesn't consider himself vrg
>>348859971
Ok so wheres the sonic map by duznot? That map was pretty fucking good.
>>348859157
>Got the name wrong
My bad it's been a while since I looked at the game
But honestly I didn't even realise that was the case, maybe I should check it out again
>Shit rhythm
Maybe for this game? Could also be a effect of slight lag with a upscaler
>>348860531
The nominees were made by a discord tranny, hence all the discord tranny complaints in the thread.
Anyway games I would like to see in VR...
I wonder if something like "It came from the desert" would work
>>348857404
bruh, that game was the shit.
I wish we had interesting titles these days.
At least some of the stuff Microprose has been publishing captures from of the old school game vibes.
>>348860531
It's an ez indicator that it's an N/A discord tranny event when our revered canadian artistic wonder isnt mentioned as a vrg creator
>>348861235
D is pretty based and cool and maps and even helped one person with their OC recently
>>348860621
>Maybe for this game?
If I remember, the defense sections needed you to hit the button earlier than it looked so even more lag would probably mess you up there pretty bad, but surely a failure or two would help you get the timing down.
>>348861235
this lol
>makes maps for all sorts of events and for fun
>doesn't get included over a literal prefab filled with more prefabs
I get that he's already in another category but come on
>>348861235
It's obvious its a discord event for the fact that there are two literallywho randos included as nominees.
or, you know, the fact that the nominees weren't chosen in the thread at all and instead but a tiny select circle of people.
god I fucking hate nu-vrg
>>348857404
Valkyria chronicles. Throws you into first person mode when you're controlling your units and performing interception fire from them and then maybe something interactive like physically interacting with a map to switch between units or issue command order buffs, and the story parts would be nice in vr format kinda like the spice and wolf game
>>348861947
Fuck you cunt i brush 3 times
>>348862180
Okay BV take your meds
>>348861947
Bro i use mouthwash, all you had to do was ask did you just assume for all of this??
>>348863965
Did you think all the other lists were well researched and factual?
>>348861627
god i want dots cock so bad
>>348830826
I went solo because I couldn't handle it. It's how I made a really good friend.Who turned out to be a really gross liar.
>>348856158
Samuel barber's agnus dei man of culture.
>been making a high effort world for quite a while
>weeks of writing stuff
>pretty much finished all of the functionality
>works when tested locally
>playing with people, works
>but sooooometimes, rarely, udon game gets stuck
>except for certain people, when they're playing, it gets stuck a whole lot
>turned out i fucked up the way game synchronizes between players, if someone has bad internet, player can take action before updating info from another player who runs the game
>the way i wrote this shit code, it'll take ages to fix it and make it work correctly with fixes, and not sure if even that's gonna be any good
>mfw working on my perfectly playable, fully functional high effort world and knowing it's useless unless it's singleplayer, fix will take ages, and i'm not even sure if my idea for the fix is any good
can't remember last time i felt this bad about fun shit going southanyone got any tested and foolproof idea to know 100% sure that serialization/deserialization between two players happened? the only thing i can think of is generating some random value as "game master" that changes on every important state change, and then if other player requested serialization from their side, he returns the value and master checks if it's the same. i lowkey hope i'm missing some basic bitch "force serialization" button here
>>348832683
christmas secret santa event says hello.
We've had it several times now and it always goes off without a hitch. And nobody ever complained they didnt get to participate. because signups are open for a good while beforehand, so people know what they are getting into, and those who didnt participate are usually fine with not having participated.
Hell the last time we even had it streamed from the gift giving instance to another instance where those who didnt participate could watch it if they wanted. (normally it all wouldve all been the same instance but muh frames)
>>348859847
drive in theater wasnt even made this year, it's 2 fucking years old
>>348865086
Having a sequence number in your packets a la TCP is a common technique detect and and reject out of order updates. It's hard to say whether it'll work for your design though without you posting the code. Distributed systems in general are tricky to implement. Welcome to computer science.
>>348867196
It's just what we decided to put in there.
Don't worry about it. It's just for the meme.
>>348865086
do your daijobuest anon. the satisfaction when it's done will be all the sweeter
>>348868332
it's a real shit meme my guy
this kind of thing doesn't carry well over the internet. Like sarcasm
>>348861947
Actually correct
>>348857689
Kinda. This also doesn't use AI, and it's more of a sharpening shader, not an anti-aliasing method.
>>348868332
>i like to stir shit and start arguements in the community for memes
pls kys
>>348868332
how about you put 4 randoms in there it'd be the same as it is now.
>>348861947
make a tier for jelly please called "you don't have to brush your teeth, actually"
>>348861947
This is hilarious, I was actually brushing my teeth when I saw I was put in the second to last tier
>>348868573
>>348872171
>>348872295
lol you are not even replying to me
Don't go to the event if it bothers you that much
Why are you people so full of hate? I understand I'm going to get a lot of stupid responses to this and - im a 4chan user, I dislike trannies and monkeys as much as the next 4chan user
But why do Discord users and thread users cause so much conflict with one another? I've been around /vrg/ for a while now and I always notice people being... so angry, where does this anger come from? Genuine question, who hurt you?
>>348874030
>im a 4chan user, I dislike trannies and monkeys as much as the next 4chan user
2016 fag at best, you might be lost actually
>>348865086
>force serialization
Have you tried RequestSerialization()?
There's also OnPostSerialization(VRC.Udon.Common.SerializationResult result)
which should tell you if serialization succeeded or not
>>348874431
I was looking for a response to my question, thank you
>>348874030
>WHO HURT YOU?
>>348874030
found the redditor
>>348874030
Did you mean to type r/4chan user?
>>348874431
>>348874667
>>348874752
>>348874902
> I understand I'm going to get a lot of stupid responses to this
None of these answer my question
>>348875034
You need to go back
>Discord circlejerk event
Literally not /vrg/. Worst event so far, not even any drama, just discord shit and inner circles.
>>348874030
It sounds like you don’t belong here
>>348874030
>unironically "who hurt you"
funny post
>>348875508
https://youtu.be/bRwulXTGhKU
>>348874030
Congrats.
You are the one that people will unite over to tell you to fuck off.
Looking for scapegoats to hate is normal thread goblin behaviour.
Nobody acts like that in person.
>>348876435
how do i know if i'm a goblin or just a goblinoid
Don't care, still love this general and its people.
Have a good day anons.
>>348876556
thanks sweaty
index 2 when
>>348876521
If you keep schizo rambling in the thread about people or keep finding someone to hate then you are a goblin
>>348874030
>who hurt you?
Throughout the years I have tasted most people in here and with my sheer excessive knowledge on cute boy butts I have ranked every one of you
>>348874494
RequestSerialization() and ownership changes are my entire communication, since calling network events is not really solving this problem in any meaningful way. Both of those things are not happening instantly, so i cannot be sure if it happened whenever i'm doing anything on either side unless i'm in OnDeserialization() method (and even then, who knows how long ago it was executed, maybe there's a huge lag?). It's not that serialization is not happening, the problem is something like:
>i have "server" base with its owner and "clients"
>every now and then, base owner makes changes in base, requests serialization, later users receive it and perform actions based on whatever they see in base object that just got updated for them
>base owner is also sometimes making changes in player's terminals: he takes ownership over them, makes changes that have to be done by game master, and then players take them back on deserialization
>i cannot be sure about order of deserializations, maybe player will deserialize base before his terminal, maybe after, but that's the minor issue though it's also one i'll be solving while taking on main one hopefully
>anyway, now user can perform action, but this is a client-sided check, and if he has old info on what happens in game base, he'll be able to perform operation anyway, possibly wrong operation based on wrong data because he didn't got all serializations yet, you wouldn't know
>for example, if some laggy user performs two operations very fast, he could send two requests and one of them would overwrite whatever master has in "client object", with old info
>could of course add a client-side delay here, but it's kind of a shit workaround since you never really know if someone has 500ms ping or just had a 5s lag, but now he's back and ready for action, not addding 5s delays here
example incoming
>>348867513
>welcome to computer science
i'm a software dev with years of experience;_;;__;
>>348878279
protip: udon sucks dick
>>348878279
An example, because explaining it makes it easier for me to understand it. Thank you for listening:
>game is turn-based
>turn moves from player to player
>on player action, player sends serialization request, base owner deserializes it, checks if player was in the middle of his turn to validate that his request is allowed, and then takes away "turn" from player who just took action and moves turn to next player
>next player gets his turn, moves, so on
>all good
>players gets laggy, and it's his turn
>moves
>deserialization happens on base side, base owner moves turn to next player
>but laggy player didn't receive deserialization that takes turn away from him
>he takes action again
>master receives deserialization request with old info, updates their version of laggy player terminal with old info where he still had a turn
>now there are two players who are allowed to take a turn on master's side
>player just either skipped other player's turn, or game shat itself spectacularly in some other way because this wasn't really an expected situation
And moving info on player's turn to base (which is very reasonable and i already changed it) only helps slightly with the problem, because it could happen that base object deserialization lagged instead of terminal deserialization. At this point i more or less know what i have to do, i have to add variable with some server time info (or any random value) to both base and terminals, and then have user perform some known and reproducable operation on it to check if it was performed on base/server side and reject request if it's not equal to whatever happened in latest change (base owner always knows it cause he generated it).
>>348878624
Eeh, i love to think this way but i think this one's on me. I can see the solution, plus prefab pretty much worked as long as players had fast internet, too, so i think basic validation is going to solve it. It's just that my code wasn't written with that in mind.
EU RACING CLUB IS BACK FOR SEASON 2!
This time we will definitely find out who is the most racerest racer!
18:00 UTC, Monday 30th of August (every second monday, alternative to Vox Machinae)
Something balanced, something nice: Catherham Academy event!
After that we'll are going back in time, NEED FOR SPEED UNDERGROUND 2 BABY!
You'll need to upgrade Custom Shader Patch in Content Manager to at least version 0.1.75, otherwise it will CRASH!
Mandatory exploration music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPRU8jbZemk
Download mods here:
https://mega.nz/folder/nz5gWSAQ#ljN5OlULFc_x-HMBHrmD9Q
Plans:
Practice - race in pack, together, as close as possible, no crashing!
After a good time of crashing, bantering and spinning out: qualifiers and 8 laps race.
Assetto - can be played with wheel, controller, or steam-vr-wheel addon, it doesn't matter, we will all have fun driving together. If you just bought grab Assetto Corsa Content Manager - a better launcher: https://assettocorsa.club/content-manager.html and a mod installer (just drag and drop zip files from mega).
For communication we'll use mumble at voice.vrg.party port 64738.
You don't have to download the client, you can use webclient at https://voice.vrg.party/?address=voice.vrg.party/demo&port=443
Push to talk works globally only using desktop client, desktop client is more configurable, highly recomend to get it, no need for any accounts, just join server and talk
https://www.mumble.info/
DLC stuff:
############
https://mega.nz/folder/nz5gWSAQ#ljN5OlULFc_x-HMBHrmD9Q
https://mega.nz/folder/BBwxhS6D#4jJIfs6omnJUaJfsnqPqGQ
>>348835281
Wasn't thinking, I'll toss that in too since everything is so short anyways.
>always bottom tier in this lists
This is what I get for not having FBT, I guess.
>>348883484
I am indeed a rocket launcher chad, how did you know?
>>348883736
it's what you get for not partaking in popularity contests
>>348884025
Yeah, I guess that too. I can't hang out with people unless there's some specific focus for everyone that doesn't revolve around avatar creation or circlejerking.
>>348852107
There's always /r/vive or various VR development Discords, or befriend content creators in VRChat and hang around them.
Some things are just shitty to discuss on 4chan if you want anything substantive.
>>348883484
Pistol start chads ww@?
Also reminds me, I need to try some WADs in VR sometime.
>>348874030
I don't think even they know. It's a refusal to grow up, and they get encouraged to do it, so why stop? It's become a culture here. I don't know what you expected from 4chan.
>>348883484
>Pistol
Rude
https://streamable.com/7t845f
Speaking of events how about a blue hair space elf event.
Which Swords of Gurrah weapon is the most fun? And when's the next lobby?
>>348886182
the glaive is interesting because its essentially a more powerful spear. if you get a good hit on the head, you'll do 50% damage max. fuck the guard points on it though and if someone gets close you are forced to run away
>>348883484
I hate plasma weapons and energy weapons in general
Some work making my own cargo pants today.
Need to add more detail, but pretty close to complete.
>>348886182
i just spam the basic 2h sword, dunno if it's the best but i enjoy being ungabunga grug and 2 hitting people with good hits
losers of /vrg/ its time for tuesday drinking tonight
>>348886810
It's 11am...
Moub, is that you?
>>348886768
From Behind
>>348886919
I said tonight, do you know how to read?
>>348886768
>>348886979
ass too flat
>>348886182
Speaking of, would Eu's be interested if i hold a swords of gurrah lobby today, 2 or 3 hours from this post?
>>348886810
But I'm all out of alcohol...maybe I'll see if I can get more by tonight.
>>348887238
You'll be cutting into EU movie night.
>>348887516
aye then, another day my friends
I hate being depressed and bipolar. The moment something goes tiny bit wrong or someone hurts me, I contemplate suicide for days and go on a melty and delete all my friends or ignore them. I just can't fucking build relationships caused I'm so fucked in the head please why can't people understand that I'm sick in the fucking head......but on the other hand who th buck wants to be with a mentally unstable retard that in the end only will hurt other from their absence. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck meds aren't working, Zoloft, valdoxan, citrlopam, non of this shit works help help help!!! Fuck might as well fucking end it no one cares anyways it's a me problem not a community problem fuck fuck we did i write this post nonononodndjnddjidjdjekskfjrieokd
>>348887658
i get that feeling a lot anon, you have to try to not spiral out of control. all i can say is to try not to uh delete all your friends
>>348887516
But that's everynight
>>348887971
no, that's only Tuesdays, anon
>>348887971
Just tuesdays anon
all along on a tuesday...
>>348888195
You don't have to be!
>>348888195
wanna fuck?
>>348888195
wanna fuck?
>>348888195
wanna fuck?
>>348886159
>hes still harassing other people
>>348888195
wannakiss?
>>348886182
1h sword. everything else is fluff.
>>348879112
that sounds like it should work. An authoritative server model is probably easiest to reason about, where the actions by individual players are only pending until confirmed by the master authoritative behavior.
If it helps, my lightly documented poker implementation works in this fashion, where individual players own a 'Seat' behavior. a player can change their bet and click a commit button, which updates the Seat's state to represent a 'pending bet'. The master behavior that controls the rest of the game waits (with timeout) to see that the active player has a pending bet, checking that the 'lastSeenEpoch' of the pending bet matches the master's current round epoch (i.e. a monotonically increasing number). code at: https://github.com/hiinaspace/vrchat-holdem
It also has an example of running unit tests through unity's framework, using conditional compilation so you can actually step through udonsharp code in the debugger. It's pretty autistic, but may be worth it for tricky networking situations like this.
>>348886182
the spear is interesting because its essentially just a better glaive. two handed it may take three hits and four one handed but if someone gets close you can just continue to fuck them up without worrying about running away
>>348886182
Katana is the thinking man's weapon
>>348890104
this, katana is genuinely fun as fuck as long as someone doesn't know how to consistently blade break you with a second weapon or hardening
>>348890049
oh, worth mentioning that this code predates array synchronization and being able to explicitly request serialization, so it all works on Update() loops and string packing. that's irrelevant to know now, thankfully.
I just found out people use sippy cups for vr
wtf bros
>>348890776
isn't that dangerous? something to do with the pressure or oxidation or something. it sounded like a good idea until i heard that
>>348890776
If you trip over it, your drink won't spill and your surface will remain clean.
>>348890776
I was chugging a drink last night when the ice cube in it made it hard to finish. A bunch went down my chest. Wouldn't have happened with a sippy lid.
>>348891061
ok
>>348891061
ok
>>348890954
>>348890991
>>348891056
ok help me find one that doesn't make me feel like a child when I look at it
>>348887516
Which movie is it tonight?
>>348890954
Anti-sipper conspiracy theories
>>348891424
If you're defensive about your maturity, then you can try a sports bottle. Same concept.
I tried out manual redirected walking this weekend and the only problem so far is how cautiously I walk.
I see there's settings in OVR Advanced for saccade turning and auto redirected, but neither seems to be effective enough; auto only seems to turn me 90 degrees.
Any advice for tuning besides "get used to it"? I'd like to be able to keep my thumbs off the sticks for games if I can manage to. I've got about 3mx4m of space to use, plus a margin around there besides.
>>348887658
Literally me except I'm not stupid enough to take zoloft or some other garbage, currently mid/post melty and freinds deleted, nobody will miss me or wanted me around anyway haha maybe time to cry and sleep
>>348887658
It's called growing up. Some people take longer than others. Don't worry, you'll get there.
>>348891908
post rotation settings. have you tried space turn in OVR?
>tfw want to keep pushing expert+ on Beat Saber but my arms are too tired
This sucks man, I feel like my skills will regress if I take a break for a couple days.
>>348892809
I do use space move and turn with the thumb pads; manual redirected seems to be the most effective because of how much control I have. If I could get an automatic option to be as responsive that would be tops.
>>348891474
The Fifth Element.
>>348893172
I've been spending so much time in vrc lately I haven't done much beat saber, need to get back into it
>>348893253
When someone turned into a TV avatar that played the entire Shrek movie, and we all just sat there and watched it the whole way through, is when I knew I needed to take a break from VRChat for a bit.
>>348893316
>two shields
Nani sore?
>>348893316
no way would I be two handed axe. I shouldn't feel insulted by this but I do
>>348893316
I only use the katana
>>348893316
I would have chosen katana, but I guess I can come across as a 2-handed axe user
>>348893196
I see. I got used to space turn after about a month of using it. And then the joystick turn only a few weeks after that. I know a few anons have the automatic turn setup but im not one of them. I prefer to use the full manual.
!!NOTICE!!
All /vrg/ drama will now be settled by the blade in Swords of Gurrah.
Thank you.
buy swords of gurrah on gee two ayy for the low price of buck fitty
hey!!
movie starting in roughly 10 mins!
tonight we're watching The Fifth Element
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119116/
https://vrchat.com/i/roll-seraphbrandalytics-8add4 or join off Lumadurin
>>348893316
>2H Sword
Close! I've always felt like more of an Axe boy.
>>348846162
EU are not vrg, just rando orbiters, litteral whos
I bought Swords of Gurra thinking it was Swords of Gargantia oops.
>>348895185
NA are not vrg, just drunk coomer failed normies, literally don't even know what 4chan is
any interest in a dead hours gurrah lobby?
>>348893316
Spot on, the glaive is my favorite melee weapon. Good guess.
Swords of Gargantua > Swords of Gurrah
Pavlov?
>>348895971
What are the pros/cons of either anyways?
>>348896119
no pavlov, only swords of gurrah
>>348893316
why ofcourse i will snipe you all from out of bounds, how could you tell?
putt putt
- S
>>348897276
butt butt more like
>>348853297
Noted, it wasn't perfectly cut-down-the-middle-able but I came up with a solution.
>>348897276
play putt putt with me please
>>348896119
I'm sorry anon, Pavlov is kill.
heheh
butt butt
>>348893316
>Spear
wew
All my opinions about (you) are based on random anons tier charts on a basket weaving forum
Anyone wanna play some Payday 2?
>>348886997
Moub, stop drinking
>>348900713
more like gayday 2 lmao
>>348900834
Ok but do you wanna play
>>348900921
not right now sorry anon
>>348901050
ok maybe later
Doing some racing in Assetto Corsa tomorrow night at 8PM EDT.
Since the 24 Hours of Le Mans was last weekend, going to try doing a 24 minute 60x version in GT3 cars.
We'll start out in practice mode, and move to qualifying/race mode when enough people join.
The Sol mod is highly recommended so you can actually see the day/night cycle.
A download and guide for the latest version of the Sol mod, the track we're using, and the DLC that's needed for a few of the cars are in the links if you need those.
Server is running in practice mode now, so you can get some practice laps in and figure out which car to run. Let me know if you run into any issues.
server: vrg racing
pass: tfwnodriftfu
voice chat (mumble): voice.vrg.party
mods: https://mega.nz/#F!IgMnDK7Y!16gzEjZRZsea9QE3NDQg6Q
DLC: https://mega.nz/folder/BBwxhS6D#4jJIfs6omnJUaJfsnqPqGQ
Sol guide: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hjm0woo5yuy6xtp/Sol%202.1%20install%20guide.pdf?dl=0
>>348903249
Also, the time trial server is still running Mugello with the 570S and the MX-5 Cup if you want to run a few laps. Leaving this config up a little longer since a few anons said they still want to set times, but I'll switch it soon.
server: vrg time trial
pass: tfwnodriftfu
leaderboard: http://198.23.223.127:50041/lapstat
DLC: https://mega.nz/folder/BBwxhS6D#4jJIfs6omnJUaJfsnqPqGQ
>>348848484
I voted for snow crash but it didn't count my vote towards it... Not that it'll win
>>348903467
LOL
>>348903467
You should read through his nsfw message thats where the real cringe are.
>>348903467
Mods might disagree but you aren't wrong
>>348903467
jesus christ, I don't even make that many posts in a year, what a psycho
>>348904302
doesn't he have a wife? lol
didn't know he needed to use a gay dating discord.
>>348904432
What weirds me out from this thread is that there’s many people a decade or so older than some of the people here and yet they still act like 22 year old frat boys. Aren’t you guys supposed to be at work and coming home to your wife and kids and doing taxes? Why the fuck are you forcing yourselves into 4chan communities so hard and trying to relive glory highschool days
>>348904757
Not defending the guy but who says that everyone in their 30s or 40s is supposed to have a wife, kids, and be doing taxes? I'd say as long as someone's free of such responsibilities they're free to pick whatever outlets they fucking want, be it 4chan communities or gay Discord dating.
>>348904757
>why aren't the people im calling normies actually normies
>>348904336
I don't disagree with it
>>348903467
>check personal my IRL friends discord messages
>23k over 5 years
god fucking damn get a life outside of the discord
>>348903467
this has to be a shop, right? theres no way this is real
I don't dislike the guy but since day 1 he has been desperately trying hard to be a popular leaderfag.
It's rather annoying
tfw insanely curious about wtf it was
>>348906678
a screenshot of Krial having 26,152 messages in discord
I got drunk last night and had lots of fun in vrchat, you should do the same anon!
>>348906992
I don't drink
>>348906792
>in 2 months
>>348905876
>>348906294
Stop replying to a post that I can't see
REEEEEE
>>348904757
>>348905097
as a mid thirties guy with wife kids taxes and also a vrchat regular i ask myself this question basically nightly and it's a real struggle let me tell you
it's a different sort of escapism i guess but there's a real danger of some boundaries getting hazy and i don't want to ever cross that line, though i've gotten close a few times
that high school was not precisely my glory days is probably related to so much
at any rate stay away from alcohol kids
>>348907148
I thought it was an old one from the previous discord.
holy shit lol
>>348907158
here you go nonny
How did that guy even get in vrg?
BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO CUT ME OFF
MAKE OUT LIKE IT NEVER HAPPENED AND THAT WE WERE NOTHING
AND I DON'T EVEN NEED YOUR LOVE
BUT YOU TREAT ME LIKE A STRANGER AND THAT FEELS SO ROUGH
>>348907472
thanks!
>>348907701
Is that a project wingman reference?
>all of this targeted shitposting from one obvious samefag
This is what happens when you tell Catdog to his face that his music sucks. You’re a petty little child. Your music does suck. There’s a reason why you’re the least popular DJ. No one listens to all that garbage anime shit anymore.
>>348907525
he joined early 2018 late 2017 and quitted for 2 years
>>348907917
are you nuts? this is multiple people baffled you can spew 25k+ words in two months
Gossiping hours again? Please go back to making tierlists, those are at least funny to read.
>>348907903
It's lyrics. After all this time it still baffles me when people post lyrics.
>>348907917
im playing league, why do you think i would spend all my time being this petty. i did what i wanted to do and all of this happened because of it, i haven't posted anything of sustenance since last night. rent free
https://youtu.be/HKybDdGHZHE
>>348907917
t. Krial
Such a shame you're not allowed into dance nights anymore :^)
>>348908329
>it’s not me I’m playing league I swear!
Lol can you be any more obvious. Stop being a whiny little child
And then I came all over my dog.
>>348908563
hi im catdog and every single post in this thread is mine. i also came on my dog
>>348908143
Not 25k words but messages. So it's most likely at least 30k words.
>>348908563
get a life
>>348908776
christ, don't forget about how much he probably spoke in the last one
>>348908739
That sounds like catdog so it must be true
>>348908563
There's no need to whine when I've already gotten you banned from most dance events.
>>348903249
Thinking about calling off work for this, I miss racing bros
>>348813105
why would i ever go to a circle jerk where i'm not the one getting jerked
fuck off faggots
>>348908876
I can 100% guarantee you that no one is going to ban him from their event because he hurt your feelings by saying the truth about your music
>>348908876
Lmao what a fucking baby
>>348909259
not me, why would i use a fucking madoka image?
>>348909259
genuine question; if you're not krial why are you dicksuck-defending him? let the married man fight his own battles. you're just fueling a back and forth about this.
>>348908329
please unblock me :)
>>348909668
no ;-)
>>348909521
Quick question, if you’re not catdog then why are you dicksucking him? Let the emotional faggot with thin skin fight his own battles
>>348909771
catdog is replying right next to my posts, retard. even the post times are separate
NOBODY FUCKING CAREEEEEEEEEEEEEES
YOU'RE BOTH FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGS
SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>348909757
It's been such a long time, you can forgive me by now right :)
>>348910032
if you're british? no
if you're euro? no
i block people i don't want to see anymore. simple as
>>348909521
Because it’s literally just Catdog having another melty trying to ruin someone over something incredibly minor because he’s an entitled little baby. It’s not the first time he’s done this and won’t be the last.
>>348910138
sounds like krial is in the wrong here
>>348910117
we used to be such good friends :)
>>348910138
im throwing a tiny little tantrum grrrrrrr i hate everything!!!! no fun allowed!!!!
>>348910323
you know why i won't unblock you
Letting the days go by, let the water hold me down
Letting the days go by, water flowing underground
Into the blue again after the money's gone
Once in a lifetime, water flowing underground
>>348910238
All he did was tell the little baby that his music sucked and he even apologized for hurting his feelings. He doesn’t deserve all the schizo samefag shitposting. Fuck off Catdog you do this dramatic shit every time someone looks at you the wrong way. Grow up, get thicker skin.
>>348910386
yeah....
At least you've stopped leaving instantly if I happen to land in the same instance as you. I think.
Maybe one day....
>>348910595
Krial it's time to log off
>>348910238
So what if some whiny baby cries that their name is in the grammy, you shouldn't be on 4chan anyways if that is all it takes to hurt your feelings. This just sounds more and more like a bunch of losers wanting their feelings to be validated.
Every breath you take and every move you make
Every bond you break, every step you take, I'll be watching you
Every single day, every word you say
Every game you play, every night you stay, I'll be watching you
Oh can't you see, you belong to me
How my poor heart aches with every step you take
Every move you make and every vow you break
Every smile you fake, every claim you stake, I'll be watching you
Since you've gone I've been lost without a trace
I dream at night I can only see your face
I look around, but it's you I can't replace
I feel so cold and I long for your embrace
I keep crying baby, baby, please
Oh can't you see, you belong to me
How my poor heart aches with every step you take
Every move you make and every vow you break
Every smile you fake, every claim you stake, I'll be watching you
Every move you make, every step you take, I'll be watching you,T.
>someone says something slightly mean to one of the discord mods
>they get mindlessy attacked by all their orbiters and try to ostracize them
I hate seeing this. this is what actual abuse of power is
>>348909863
Yea so you’re dicksucking him lol bad taste
>>348910595
Are you already trying to rewrite 24hr old history? The whole shitstorm is over krial's shit event, nothing to do with catdog, it's just he's the only one who has actually put his name behind calling out the shitty discord event so he's an easy target foryry08 you faggot
>>348910880
Fuck off faggot it's so obvious that it's catdog samefagging inorder to harass Krial.
>>348910880
>>348911031
>actual samefag
Guys enough already
>>348911031
there are many of us who really don't like what he is doing with this event. I don't even dislike him personally or anything
I want to fuck the chinchilla?
>>348911120
>>348911031
>>348910880
all me btw
>>348911120
>>348911179
>>348911563
all me btw
>>348911179
>>348911378
>>348911563
all me btw
>>348911563
>>348911663
>>348911801
all me btw
>>348911563
actually no because >>348910880 was me, I'm fairly certain at least, I think i've taken my meds
I'm not a fan of puppeteers, but I've a nagging fear
Someone else is pulling at the strings
Something terrible is going down through the entire town
Wreaking anarchy, and all it brings
I can't sit idly, no, I can't move at all
I curse the name, the one behind it all
Discord, I'm howlin' at the moon
And sleepin' in the middle of a summer afternoon
Discord, whatever did we do
To make you take our world away?
Discord, are we your prey alone
Or are we just a stepping stone for taking back the throne?
Discord, we won't take it anymore
So take your tyranny away!
I'm fine with changing status quo, but not in letting go
Now the world is being torn apart
A terrible catastrophe played by your symphony
What a terrifying work of art
I can't sit idly, no, I can't move at all
I curse the name, the one behind it all
Discord, I'm howlin' at the moon
And sleepin' in the middle of a summer afternoon
Discord, whatever did we do
To make you take our world away?
Discord, are we your prey alone
Or are we just a stepping stone for taking back the throne?
Discord, we won't take it anymore
So take your tyranny away!
Discord, I'm howlin' at the moon
And sleepin' in the middle of a summer afternoon
Discord, whatever did we do
To make you take our world away?
Discord, are we your prey alone
Or are we just a stepping stone for taking back the throne?
Discord, we won't take it anymore
So take your tyranny away!
>>348912029
I've got no strings
So I have fun
I'm not tied up to anyone
They've got strings
But you can see
There are no strings on me
>>348911947
Uh anon... I think >>348911947 was mine...
literally every post in this thread was made by me, no doubt about it.
>>348912232
pog this is the dialogue from Age of Ultron!!!
Lewis likes feet. Especially Ammy's
>>348912331
nice try, every single post is mine.
>>348912331
>>348912425
no, they were from me
>>348904757
i started using 4chan in 2006
i'm here forever
>>348912516
cringe grow up boomer
>>348912516
damn bro thats cool, im not reading all of that though.
Damn imagine getting a melty over someone not liking your taste in music. Wow he has an opinion?! b-but h'es not allowed to have that....yee
>>348912336
It's from pinocchio you fucking philistine.
>>348912331
>>348912425
>>348912465
all me btw
>>348904757
I'm not a normalfag.
Damn imagine getting a melty over someone not liking your event. Wow he has an opinion?! b-but h'es not allowed to have that....yee
>>348912845
>yee
That's enough krial.
Hypocritical schizo vs Pay2win leaderfag who will win
Jesus christ, get a fucking room and hatefuck each other to death already
bring back mommy yuru
Please stop shitting up the thread with your Discord drama.
>>348912241
Prove it, what was I thinking when you wrote my post?
>>348913748
this desu it was a simpler time
>>348913748
unironically the better times
>>348913668
Hell in a cell match
vrgmania
Nyasuka!
>>348913748
Not untilshe finishes the flower map. I didn't stay up until 5am making a flower for nothing.
There's no need for this silly drama. Good night friends
I heard Ammy likes farts. You know what to do ladies (guys)
>>348913748
did a better job than k but still not the right person to put in a position of responsibility
>>348914146
She can suka my nya
noopies
>>348914418
kike on a bike
QRD on what happened to Y? I haven't been in Discord or gone to meetups in 2021.
>>348914616
put me in charge, i dont give a shit about any of you and will ban you as soon as you ask me to do anything
>>348913748
Yuru is cringe and tism hidden behind a veneer of inaction and silence
>>348914146
I don't actually like this new booth model. Not sure why, maybe it's the hair?
>>348912756
wait is this a parody of the image or the original image for that meme i don't know how i haven't seen this yet
>>348915373
That's the original.
I want to FUCK Jebot's furry a s s
>>348915451
ah i see thanks friend
>>348890049
>>348890246
That's some considerably based code anon, thank youi didn't bother checking your code when you've posted it here once before because semi autism, semi desire to pull it off on my own and learn on my own mistakes. i'm not enjoying learning on the mistake i've just made though, so now i think i'm gonna diligently copy your entire packet validation and check through rest of the stuff to make sure i'm not missing on any possible problems anymore. my code is a bit less clean in terms of how objects communicate with each other, but same general ideas should apply
GAY ASS FAGGOT WORLD CRASHED EVERYONE JUST LIKE WE THOUGHT
GOD DAMN IT
>it fucking crashed
>>348916653
excuse you i am too ignorant to know, please put me in >doesn't know
>>348916653
I like living in ignorance
>>348908314
LOVE ME LOVE ME SAY THAT YOU LOVE ME.
>>348914926
T. Dal
Would anyone be up for some mahjong right now?
New fag here to this gen, I installed VR chat for the first time. Where do I get non default avatars? It looks like the search function in game does not exist.
>>348917530
search the worlds for the names of avatars you want.
>>348917530
Avatar worlds, once you get upgraded from Visitor then you can upload your own
>>348917530
can't do searching.
you could join the meet thats happening right now for some
https://vrchat.com/i/e-honda-montrealmark-a617a
>>348914926
Mommy is legitimately kind and has an inhuman amount of patience. He's also a wimp who can't handle pressure and hesitates every time he has needed to put his foot down.
He was a good leaderfag during the times when the community was better off with a leader that was loved but now that the community has grown larger and more unruly, a leader that is feared is needed more.
>>348914926
mommy is really cute and gentle and kind and and pure and wholesome and caring
>>348918645
>>348918423
>>348913748
this mommy shit sounds like a cult
>>348918916
idc
>>348916653
>>348916653
I have two pictures and they are on diffirent sides
>>348918916
>>348918423
mommy y is nice and caring unless you get on their bad side. If you get on his bad side he will turn his orbiters against you, maybe or maybe not on purpose. (like making an announcement to shame you and then pretending it was ironic)
Tetris is fun. The zone mechanic is a pretty neat addition to the age old formula. Like with all new things it does take some time getting used to and I always forget to use it.
https://streamable.com/kavmn4
>>348918423
>he was a good leaderfag
going to need to back this up
>a leader that is feared is needed more
?? why should someone have that kind of power? Nobody is supposed to be in a higher social position here for being an admin or mod, outside of their functional purpose
>>348919078
>maybe he knows
>>348918423
>a leader that is feared is needed more
yuru's time on the throne should have showed you idiots that you don't need a ruler if the ruler does nothing, this place was a anarchist utopia before people started leaderfagging and power grabbing yuru was a necessary evil to discourage others from grabbing power and it worked except some idiots didn't know well enough to leave alone and kept at it long before the demonstration was complete
anyone who elevates leaderfags is a moron who needs to be wrangled
>wanting any kind of leaderags
you guys are pathetic
>>348919725
why do you pretend he did "nothing? and didn't do the same kind of leaderfagging? Only difference is he constantly said he didn't do anything and that he didn't want power. His actions never reflected that
How do I conquer /vrg/?
>>348919965
Be friendly and good at one or two things.
>>348920089 (Cross-thread)
>>348920089 (Cross-thread)
>>348920089 (Cross-thread)
NEW
>>348916730
>>348916738
part of the plan
>>348919928
he was a lesser evil necessary to block the other power grabbers, we have some people who have been trying to get into power ever since the fucking botched "collaboration" attempt where they posited themself as a leader of /vrg/ showing just how desperately they wanted that power and they kept at it ever since finally getting it pretty recently
>>348920242
Idk what any of the second half of your post means but I kind of agree that he was better to have around than the current lineup of mods, by a lot, if that's what you mean
>>348920242
Do you mean the ULF and by certain people you mean me, get fucked lmoa
>>348920391
yes i indeed meant that he was way better than the other power grabbers, the others have been scheming since before corona to get into power and the lengths they are willing to go to get and keep that power are fucking ridiculous, it's like this person never had any real power in his entire life so he threw all his being into being a mod
>>348920632
why do you want to be a mod so bad, you don't get paid for it and no one but your lackies cares about your self appointed "power"
>>348865086
>>348878279
>>348879112
this is why it took 4 months to reliably sync up some scores in udon after I moved from sdk2
networking is hard
>>348920773
Simple, actually resolving problems instead of bitching on an anonymous forum for literally years accomplishing a total sum of nothing.
>>348920124
>a discord in the OP
smells like Krial made this thread
>>348920894
>resolving problems
power corrupts, eventually you will become the problem to be solved by others
>>348911378
Imeris Chinchilla...
>>348919472
What is this tetris for stoners
>>348920773
>>348920391
>>348920242
It's impossible to fix now, once power grabbers get into power they never let go. We're stuck with this regime for awhile.
>>348922194
that's where you're wrong, the only thing elevating them is the shadow on the wall that is their "power", let them hangout with their lackies and do their own dumb shit and do stuff with your own friends, it's like the treehouse thing if they want to keep people out let them hangout there until they get bored of hanging out with their lackies, go play football or play in the swings or something so to say
>>348886768
Very clean!
>>348910787
this song sucks tbqhwy
>>348903708
Is strawpoll fucked right now? Why wouldn’t it count it? Wth
>>348916653
Cool!
Wait, what do I know?
>>348945650
>he doesn't know
>>348812609
should I get this? love shooters
>>348913748
How about we not have any positions to fill at all? Have you thought of that. The person you are so fond of did so much wrong in bringing this community to ruins. And is one of the more power hungry people in this place.
>>348946146
Yeah. It's a really fun horde shooter with co-op and a decent amount of mods. It goes on sale for cheap in the bundle and CD keys are fairly affordable too. We'll play again this coming Monday at the same time.