/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1401

Since we have the feels bar this week we might have to move Drunk Pavlov around this week. Please vote for the best time for you. And reply with any maps you may want to see or even ones we should take out because they suck like vertigo.
https://poal.me/qc3hgp

Biiiiiig boooooooobs!

any one here tried cluster?

Dal is a pillar of the community

>>418695816 (OP)
>how to make the Quest Pro and Vive XR Elite obsolete in one easy step

Will /vrg/ be buying the new Beyond headset?

https://strawpoll.vote/polls/enth98he/vote?s=0

>>418696309
It's not even trying for the same market

Running the Tail of the Dragon and doing some drag racing afterwards in Assetto Corsa tonight at 8PM EST (about an hour from now).
Car list is pic related, let me know if you have any last minute additions you want to run.
Mods and DLC are below and the server is up if you want to test anything.
server: vrg racing
pass: tfwnodriftfu
voice chat (mumble): voice.vrg.party
mods: https://mega.nz/folder/xN4EGDiC#cvLFrD3kTpS_8pU7eNVvPw
DLC: https://mega.nz/folder/hNgHTIrb#utSeSx4mqKjcMYfwiI67sg

another successful birthday

>>418696353
I'll wait untill first round of pre-orders ship. Get the non-shillseeker review(that faggot should refund my money for Vail and anyone who fell for bonelabs)

Going to host Walkabout Minigolf lobby at 8:30 EST tomorrow

>>418696720
she's literally me

>>418696436
>pancake lenses
>small form-factor
>expensive
just because it doesn't use its own store, account, and shit camera tracking doesn't mean people looking for a small headset don't want it
(((business))) people want a headset that won't mess up their fancy haircut, and this delivers
I bet it'd render that fancy car model on a PC a billion times better than a shitty XR2 chip with a slight upgrade and a fan blowing at it
and considering Vive already had a large business-facing market with their "Pro" headsets and "Office" overpriced versions, this is an easy swap-in for anyone who bought into that shit

>>418696353
I might be interested as an index upgrade (though I already have the qpro) but I'm real concerned about the ghosting issue

>>418696307
Some of the worst people and trouble makers are actually the main pillers of VRG ironic enough.

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>>418696543
You could have refunded them yourself dumbass.

>>418696353
It's tempting, but I don't want one unless it turns out the FOV is actually higher than they're claiming right now for some reason.

>>418696105
Holy boobers

>>418696872
the pro weighs more than a q2, it's not even remotely small form factor

I'll leave this here

>>418697116
strap style means it doesn't mess up the business man's hair though!
I honestly don't see who in their right mind would ever get a q2 pro considering it really doesn't do anything better than the q2 besides costing way more

>>418697051
>I don't want one unless it turns out the FOV is actually higher than they're claiming right now for some reason.
That does seem to be intentional, for whatever reason. Every reviewer has said it's about the same FoV as Quest 2, including shill who apparently measured it in his video

>>418696872
>shit camera tracking
this is pure lighthouse ERPer cope
camera tracking gets the job done and is more convenient for pretty much every other use case

こんばんは、/vrg/

>>418697291
the foam should make it so that you get the optimal viewing experience regardless of face shape, as opposed to a generic hmd like q2
that said, I would expect the numbers given to be pretty close to what you'd expect to get out of it
tiny 1inch screens will only give you so much FOV

>>418697356
>this is pure lighthouse ERPer cope
nice projection
let me know when those cameras track your body, especially the legs
and no, prerendering them doesn't count Zucc

>>418697390
こんばんは、おじさん。

>>418697390
bonsoir

frens

Bonsoir, /vrg/.

>>418692316 (Cross-thread)
don't be rude

>>418697562
>let me know when those cameras track your body, especially the legs
that's literally what I
anon seriously what do
really now did you even
Okay I'm defeated.

>>418696353
I preordered one. I feel like the design tradeoffs they made are overall worth it for me. Coming from the (relatively) svelte rift CV1 and the fat index, it'll be nice to have a really lightweight headset with oled again, even if I also have to go back to 2017-era FOV and refresh rate. I think what I will miss most will be the index off-ear headphones. Hopefully their stereo microphone is up to snuff. I actually like they're doing the custom face gasket too, even if having to go borrow an applel product is kind of gay. If you're paying that much for niche hardware that goes on your body, getting it actually tailored instead of generic (or having fiddly adjustable bits) sounds good to me.

>>418697756

>>418697776
now give it tits

>>418697291
>That does seem to be intentional, for whatever reason
With variance in the headset size and foam size, I guess they just wanted to play it overly safe. Q2 FoV would be a slight downgrade, but if nothing else good comes out before this, it'll be tempting. Definitely not pre-ordering one though.

>>418696397 (Cross-thread)
I added true game journo mode now, path by the walls, takes longer thou.
Need to add more shit around the walls to jump on, the rice lamps are a bit of a cancer.

If you are trans then you aren’t VRG filthy faggot.

>>418698461
Anon im just a headpat whore, i cant help myself but go on other people's laps and ask for headpats

>>418698461
You will never be a woman

>>418695506 (Cross-thread)
No but I'm strongly considering it for my next PC/VR purchase.

>>418695545 (Cross-thread)
What kind of video compression?

If you aren't trans then you aren’t VRG filthy faggot.

I'm not VRG.
I'm /vrg/.

Get the fuck out of here.

>>418698674
just the normal kind, h264 or HEVC
bitrate over a cable is pretty good, though sometimes it looks slightly... foggy? to me (not the same thing as blurry)
bitrate over wifi depends on how good a connection you can get

>>418698461
>>418698708
You both sound like idiots

Fuck trannies and fuck discord

>>418699401
why do you want to have sex with discord and trannies?

>>418679154 (Cross-thread)
Might be the battery, battery cable, or your wireless cable( the short one).
>>418690584 (Cross-thread)
Seems that my wireless adapter is a rare one that works. I've replaced the battery cable and hmd cable. I do get grey outs maybe once per session (5h). I even have 4 monitor setup with little issues. The only things that bother me is the greyouts (ofc), and compression in dark environments and the weight of the hmd(1200g). Once after a firmware update, something happened to the compression and the image was extremely clear. After restarting it went back to the compression. It can handle no or better compression but resets. Is there away to adjust that? I see "SetwirelessBitRate.exe" in the ConnectionUtility but I cant seem to do anything with it.

What is better, inside-out tracking or base station tracking?

Why do you think Facebook is so far behind the competition?

>>418700292
each has their pros, overall basestation will give a beter experience 90% of the times however metashit's move to have controllers tracking themselves removes most of the occlusion issues

>>418700316
There's no money in VR right now and the little consumer base that wants VR are enthusiasts that have no interest in Facebook/Meta products.

>>418700292
base stations are inside-out; the devices that use their lasers calculate their positions based on the lasers that the device's diodes receive (at least three hits iirc)
but yes, lasers are better than cameras

>>418700578
>the little consumer base that wants VR are enthusiasts that have no interest in Facebook/Meta products.

>>418700845
>cheap thing is cheap

>>418700845
I'm too stupid to understand this graph

>>418700996
the little consumer base that wants vr are enthusiasts and have interest in Facebook/Meta cheap products.
>>418701123
the grey says 44.26% for quest 2 and is the current base on steam, the x axis is time

>>418701529
>the cheap headset is cheap
>but the software and performance they actually want is on pc/steam
oops

>>418701646
yes, and? it's still a headset that vr consumers are purchasing and using

>>418702110
consumers are not necessarily vr enthusiasts
a lot of quest 2s are sitting on shelves collecting dust

>>418700316
behind?

>>418702284
aren't steam statistics gathered from connected devices only?
plus it wouldn't even include people that use standalone

>>418702507
if you have/use multiple, it only captures that last one you used
this gets stored and submitted each time you get surveyed

>>418696353
perhaps if i had the money to blow
as it stands the weight downside of the index is superior to blowing the same money on this, more to actually use it if you're not already a lighthouse/controller owner. Ideal setup would be this + the setup i have but it's pretty hard to justify two month's rent on a lighter/more comfortable version of the thing i already own, it'd be like buying a new version of my car with a higher trim

>>418700316
Why is the rest of the market so far behind Facebook?

>>418703148
normies eat up cheap shit as a christmas gift and then forget about it

*yoink*

>>418700845
niggas really be using windows mixed reality? the fuck?

>>418696447
Assetto Corsa starting now, server details are in the previous post if you're interested.

>>418703737
Is it a race or just fucking about?

>>418703312
no
>>418703384
i used to, my old pc didnt have a display port or usb C

>>418703148
META bought outa fuckton of companies and judging by the content and hardware released shelved them.

>>418704140
I don't think this track even supports race modes, but we'll still do a few races with everyone starting at the same time.

>>418704518
thanks zucc

Gentlemen, Valentines HAS PASSED. The Feels Bar will be open on Friday(17th) at 10pm EST for those who do not have plans. We will have live music from Anon, Anonymous and special guest(s). Join link will be in the thread. Oh and this is in VRChat.
I hope I dont see you because you have romatic plans erping is not romantic plans
NO MORE SONG SUGGETIONS

>>418706317
If for some reason the feels bar lasts 5 hrs after it starts I will be there after work.

>>418706317
>4AM in my country
Being EU is suffering

You should watch some quality anime anon.

>>418706934
And ingest happy little girl pills?

How many people here go into VRchat for the hangouts but don't actually use a headset? Wondering if I should feel guilty for doing it on occasion.

>>418707531
Yes, you should feel guilty.

>>418707531
thats fine but you should feel guilty and ashamed of yourself in general for ending up here

>>418696353
no, it's only "good" because its the first to use the technology we've been hearing and waiting for to come.
I will wait for a better product that utilizes the same tech.
>requires an iphone

>>418707948
>he doesn’t have an iPhone or have a friend that has an iPhone
Yikes frfr

It's time to start talking about furry rights.

>>418708247
I have no friends irl and own a superior android smartphone

>>418708336
Furries will continue to have no rights.
This hereby concludes the meeting on furry rights.

>>418708530
ask randos on the street if u can borrow their phone

>>418703252
Because Facebook/Meta realized that standalone was needed for mass market appeal and developers would willingly go with them. The consequences are clear to see as PCVR gaming growth slows as soon as the Quest 2 released in late 2020 and was completely stagnant for 2022.

>>418696353
somnium vr1 for me please

>>418709403
god i nearly forgot about that

>>418708530
>superior
Why can’t your android scan faces like an iPhone?

It's a piece of cake to bake a pretty cake

>>418709578
They literally can, many flagship and high end android phones have the same face scan features that enable face unlock.

>>418708628
anon you didn't even make a motion to adjourn. have you even read roberts rules of order?
This place really is a shambles. The vrg furry council will hear of this.

>>418707531
Rarely. The only desktoppers is see from time to time are people with a headset being lazy every now and then

>>418703312
Special mouth tracking and still has the same exact dopey expression in every photo

>>418714696
can only do so much with vrc limitations

>>418714696
Older pic but I think that is a face tracking pic.
That's my neutral expression.

>>418696720
what kind of schizo hosts events on half past the hour?

>>418706934
the anime no one votes to watch, but secretly enjoys alone.

>>418715738
gives me time to get home. I could host at 9 instead

>>418691164 (Cross-thread)
anime starting
join on pgpweasel or hiina

>>418716690
is hippo ur favorite animal

>>418718270
yea

>>418718619
Did you like the anime girl hii-na because her name is close to hii-po?

>>418718894
different anon, im P

>>418691164 (Cross-thread)
>>418716690
>anime starting joi-ACK

What is it about unrealistically huge cow tits that turns you fucking trooner coomers on that you feel the need to put them on every single fucking avatar? Why does huge cow tits turn you on in the first place? Does that fat bitch next door to you turn you on because “le heckin’ huge boobies!1!1!1!1”? Are you that low and pathetic?

>>418719318
uuuh who are you talking about? I only get turned on if the avatar is flat as a board thank you very much

>>418719318
We need more love for our anons with more modest sizes!

>>418719452
source?

>>418719318
Based.
Fuck these crazy huge tittied beasts!
Learn some moderation!

ah. i missed assetto.

>>418720007
Warui Ko Haru-chin

>>418719318
men with high testosterone are attracted to women with large breasts.

>>418719318
It's a consequence of their homosexuality. Absurd chest sizes are NOT attractive. Modestly sized breasts are far superior by all objective metrics.

>>418719318
lol kys pedo

Real men love one thing.

>>418720560

>>418720560
i fucking HATE lolis

>>418720560
OUUUUUUUUUUUH GENDERBENDER LOLI

>>418720808
Faggot.

>>418719318
>>418719452
>>418719679
>>418720101
>>418720380
flatties SEETHING

>>418721056
i want to kill lolis, and i hate faggots

>>418721397
>i hate faggots
Then stop acting like one.

>>418708336
There are rights related to them. Rights to engage in the use of a flamethrower in their presence.

Workout is starting shortly!
Pls join https://vrch.at/50v56rd3
or Definitely Not A Cat

>>418723413
FURSISTERS WE'RE BACK

>>418721513
You're the one posting lolis

>>418727298
Everyday until you like it.

>>418727664
Why would I like it

>>418728636
People can change.
You might grow some patrician taste

i have discovered quite by accident some kind of phantom warmth sensation when burying my face in a big fuzzy chest

>>418728824
It's a kid, I'm not a pedo

>>418728975
Great, another furry, just what we need

Anyways I'm gonna stop talking to the pedo now

faggot

Any good Zany avatars?

>>418731593
Any avatar can be zany if the man behind it is silly enough.

>>418733483
ill do it

would you buy a psvr if it got vrchat?

let me guess you need "more"?

>>418734776
I don't have a PS4 or PS5 or whatever the most recent playstation is, so the added cost of buying a gaming console for a headset means it's better to stay on PC VR

how do I stop going to vr karaoke I need to let my vocal cords rest but its too fun

>>418734931
I literally don't need more, got a NIB CV1 four months ago for about US$150 and replaced pic related. Why upgrade when there's nothing new with the same features?

The day has come, do you know what day it is?
IT'S FUCKING GOLFING DAY
Sleepy walkabout minigolf is happening this Thursday at the usual time (which is midnight EST. (which is 22 hours from now on.))
To the pleasure of seeing you there, golfers.

>>418706934
Yeah, YOU SHOULD ALL watch some quality anime

>>418735178
Embrace vocal cord calluses

>>418734776
VRChat works just fine on the headset I already have, so I don't really care about that. I'd be more tempted to buy it if there were a ton of good exclusives.

Anyone else getting a Cyberpunk Avatar ready?

>>418736136
All my avatars of late have been cyberpunk. Might make something new if there was an event coming up.

>>418736463
march steampunk month

>>418735749
cute Skadi

>>418696105
take out cache it sucks COCK

>>418734776
No, it would be limited and janky like the quest version

>>418736136
I have one ready but need to fix the weight painting and bone issues on it + add some animations and function on the goggles

>>418740316
damn, this bitch got no legs

>>418740316
>>418740727
Amputee erotic!

>>418735638
I mean we can tell that you're poor just by your blanket aswell so i don't get why you're coping so hard

I hate my 3070 and its shitty 8GB VRAM. What's the best way to deal with this shit? Block all avatars? Lower upscaling? Bitrate? Using cable link with a Quest 2.

>>418734931
I need a headset that has base stations instead of cameras

>>418742740
8GB of VRAM with a Quest 2 is pretty low because the encoding/streaming takes a little more VRAM.
Don't upscale as much and limit your download size to 25-30MB. Occasionally check people's avatars and hide those above 150MB VRAM usage.

>>418742848
Fuuck. I wish I knew before I bought this thing.

>>418742740
Limiting avatar download size in your performance settings stops most of the niggas that use up like 200+ megabytes of VRAM
If you see an avatar with a grabpass (so if you see glasses with refraction on them for example), hide it. That shit takes a bunch of VRAM too which doesn't show up in the performance stats.

>>418734931
Yes. The tracking, SDE, resolution, and build quality is bad, while having absurd CPU and USB demands.

>>418734931
The CV1 was amazing. Good tracking. Not as good as lighthouses, but still more than sufficient and better than inside-out. Cheap as fuck.
Good overlay that was ahead of its time. The SteamVR overlay and the input bindings menus look like a sad incompetent joke compared to it. Cheap controllers and replacements too, you could get two controllers AND a third sensor for $110. Decent specs like resolution. Adjustable IPD. No facebook requirement. Access to Oculus exclusives (even though exclusives are super gay). Rudimentary finger tracking, years before the Index existed. Control sticks and two top buttons, instead of touchpads. SWAPPABLE AA BATTERIES so you never had to go offline or cope with powerbanks if your controllers ran out. Comfortable controllers. Good customer service. Decent headphones that were easy to remove if you desired. Only issue is the mic going bad after a bit and the headphones dying rather quick.

And all that for like $350 instead of the expensive dogshit we have now. Of course they just had to kill it for an inferior alternative like the Rift S.

gm /vrg/

>>418748315
>old thing good, new thing bad
You're ignoring or downplaying all the issues that were just as bad as current headsets, if not worse. You probably don't even know that through 2016 and half of 2017 there was a huge problem with the screen turning permanently red and the tracking was so bad that you were essentially forced to use both sensors 90 degrees apart and never turn around.

>>418748315
>coping with powerbanks
what the fuck does this even mean?

>>418749363
He means having to plug the controllers in instead of being able to swap the battery. That in itself was a problem because AA batteries aren't actually a standard size, so you'd either get brownouts when swinging the controller, and/or find the battery difficult to remove without damaging it. It was common to 'cope' by jamming foil and other things in the spring or compartment. The covers would partially slide off a lot in actual games because they were only magnetic.

If the Rift were released now, it would be shit on relentlessly, but it is remembered fondly because it was the first headset of many and allowed easy gestures in VRchat.

>>418749658
only quest controllers have brownout problems and it's not a battery size issue, its the choice of cheaper weaker springs that compress too much under motion.

>>418749971
It was also a Rift issue. Here' a Redditnigger thread about some of the solutions:

https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/comments/a2h7o4/psa_adding_an_additional_spring_to_the_battery/

@418749103
stop attentionwhoring and kys

>>418749103
good morning anon
I am replying to you to make the other person mad

>>418750761
>@

You have to go back

Should I build more on the parlour, having 1 lowlife carsboard table and 4 parlour tables?
I'm also gonna make the map higher, making it easier to get to the parlour, with increasing difficulty to get higher, to more secret areas.
What do you think vrg?

How are you supposed to learn udon

>>418751546
Youtube starter tutorial, look at prefabs and such.
Given you know how to code, or mean Udon and not U#

>>418749285
I'm not saying new thing bad, I'm saying the CV1 was an upgrade over the Rift S and especially 4-5 years ago, it was worth the money more so than the Index is today.
I never had issues with the tracking and I had my sensors literally just both on my desk facing my play area.
In comparison, setting up the 1.0 base stations back then was a massive pain and it took weeks for me to figure out a setup that didn't make me lose tracking all the time.
My CV1 controllers still worked after 3 years, I'm currently on my third set of Index controllers.

>>418751964
>My CV1 controllers still worked after 3 years, I'm currently on my third set of Index controllers.
And what is the headset held together with? Unless you never use it, it's going to need string, tape, cable ties, etc. like: >>418735638 after a few months.

>>418752406
After 3 years I think the most I needed was a small clip to keep the cable in place. I used my headset almost daily, but basically never for more than 3 hours a day.

>>418752494
I doubt you haven't had to fix the right side of the strap disconnecting the headphone wires in that time.

>>418751159
Parlor should be easy accesible, secrets - good. Cardboard and proper tables could be 50:50 imho. Add big "no lewding" sign in front of the parlor (implying that degens can go fuck themselves on the dirty alley floor)

>>418752643
Oh right, the headphones broke pretty quickly and I had to fix that a few times over the years. I think they first broke after like 3 months of using them.
In the end I got moved into a very loud neighbors situation (couple moved in next-door and they were mutually domestically violent), so I ditched the attached headphones and started wearing noise canceling headphones over them instead. The mic also degraded into near-incoherency over the years when compared to a modmic or the Index mic.
That's one of the main reasons why I got an Index, but I will forever miss the swappable AA batteries.

>>418750813
funny

>>418752650
I mean, you are not supposed to lewd when someone hosts mahjong to begin with...

Are there any lightweight power banks that you'd recommend for wireless headsets ? Something that doesn't get in the way even for physical games like boxing or Beat Saber. At the moment I can play 2 hours with my headset on a full charge, it'd be great if I could extend that by 1h30 or more.

>>418752406
My CV1 controllers won't stop drifting to the point where I have to blow into my joysticks nearly every two minutes so I don't float off. Also, my gestures no longer work so I have to keep them off or else my hands not doing anything will show a finger-point expression, or a peace sign.

Does anyone have a fix for the hand gestures freaking the fuck out? It's getting on my nerves.

>>418752975
I think it's time for new controllers or a different headset. It sounds like the finger tracking is busted and the sticks are drifting. The CV1's are even harder to DIY repair than the Index controllers since it's all glued together so don't even bother.

>>418752943
https://rebuffreality.com/collections/oculus-meta-quest/products/vr-power-2

>>418753050
Yeah, it's about time I get a new one, my controllers are getting pretty crusty and shit anyway. I do have another set of controllers but the battery inside has been run completely flat on the left controller. I've tried nearly every fix to pretty much no avail.

I gotta get a new headset when I rake some money together, a temporary fix would do for now if there is anything I can even do.

>>418752975
One of the capacitors is short circuited so it thinks you're always touching something with your thumb. You could try WD-40 around all the buttons and joystick.

>>418753359
I'll get to that now actually, I'll give it a shot and test it in VR to see if there's any (if much) change. Thanks anon.

CV1 is nice and all until your cable is busted. I am still on my first set of Index knuckles btw

>>418753062
Thoughts on something like this ? Would be easily reuseable if I changed headsets too. Obviously won't provide a lot of extended playtime but 3h total is fine by me.

Gonna host Gurren Lagann eps 1-4 at 18:00 UTC tomorrow (Friday)

VR is dead

>>418754103
Pretty good choice anon, one question though.
Is it gonna be dubbed or subbed? no reason just wanna know.

>>418752406
I see you have changed from the poorfag bedsheets to a nicer set, let me reiterate. The fact that you even have blankets at all on your bed indicates that you're poor.

Don't click youtube links from here, it'll alter your preferences..

>>418754748
Not the same person. That's an old picture. My Rift is completely destroyed now. I took it out of the box after 2 years and the strap immediately came off. The plastic is really weak and seems to degrade badly.

>>418754748
Also:
>The fact that you even have blankets at all on your bed indicates that you're poor
What am I meant to have? I haven't used a duvet since childhood because it's too hot.

>>418755314
And you don't seem to understand...
https://youtu.be/Uoox9fpmDP0

>>418757723
No. I think you need to take your meds.

>>418757980
ok
https://youtu.be/l9Mp0iOFVuc

>>418554741 (Cross-thread)
EU anime tonight 7PM UTC we're watching .hack//sign, the original VRMMO anime, episodes 1-4

PSVR2 reviews are coming out.

I don't understand what people are expecting from the PSVR2? It's still just a console-tethered headset. To me it is LESS useful than a fucking quest while being significantly more expensive.

Seriously, what incredible breakthrough or technology are you expecting from it? A locked down headset on a locked down system that has a handful of titles?

>>418759848
It's VR-related so some enthusiasts are interested in it.
Personally I don't give a rat's ass about anything PSVR or Quest related, it's just more chance for these piece of shit companies to jew PC users out of games by making them exclusives.

>>418759065
tsukasa is a woman in a wheelchair

>>418752650
>Add big "no lewding" sign in front of the parlor
truly dystopian to fit the theme

>>418759848
It's the first option that isn't either severely limited in some way or requires significant investment in a high end PC. $500 for an existing PS5 owner is a significantly lesser barrier to entry compared to the $1500 or more they'd have to spend to try PCVR. It will also increase developer willingness to make VR games. If it is successful, then the effects won't be isolated to the Playstation ecosystem forever. VR needs to break out of the:
>lack of players because lack of games because lack of players
problem somehow, and this may help.

>>418761429
>This walled garden may help with the lack of players

Absolutely blind.

>>418761890
Did the success of the NES in the late 80s revitalise the video games industry or create a Nintendo monopoly?

>>418762009
Probably both tbqh, overall I think we got good games out of it but that must have been a dark time for gamers having Sega's stuff so far in the background.

>>418762009
You are actually fucking retarded. Enjoy your PSVR2.

>>418762009
The Genesis and Dreamcast are definitely consoles that existed at some point. Not very popular and games were sparse, with most of the good titles being made by the people that made the hardware to begin with.
Wait a sec this is starting to sound familiar.
I think the main difference is that Nintendo wasn't going around snatching up promising titles or budding developers and reel them into exclusivity like what Facebook and Sony have been doing.
At least the PC releases of Sony titles over the past years give me a glimmer of hope that primarily PSVR-oriented games will come to PCVR too. And if the PSVR2 is any good then they might actually be real games and not gimped lazy ports like the pieces of shit behind Hitman 3 or Skyrim/Fallout.

>>418762123
>>418762158
>>418762550
What is your alternative? Another PCVR headset that changes nothing?

>>418762896
We need good PCVR games
The hardware is chugging along slowly but what we really need is games
These AAA developer cunts need to stop shitting out bad ports of existing games and then blaming the lack of interest in VR as to why their shitty port failed. If Hitman 3 VR was any good and not instantly abandoned, if Skyrim VR was good out of the box, if Borderlands 2 VR was good, if PAYDAY 2 VR was good and if Serious Sam VR wasn't $90 for all the games I feel like we would be a lot further along. And maybe if more smaller developers jumped on the VR train. Full native VR support for Deep Rock Galactic (and not some janky vaporware mod) and stuff like that.
The only good big name VR game is Half-Life Alyx and even that is babby's first VR game with how slow-paced and scripted it is. Arguably most people who own PC headsets are just playing VRChat nowadays.

The hardware is hardly the issue here, it's the games. And a PSVR2 will not help get more games on PC. The PSVR2 library will just be shitty 2-hour gimmick games like the crap you find on the Oculus store, or cut-down "VR" versions of big names like what happened with Prey Typhon Hunter or Doom VFR.

VR boomers like Anton aren't helping either, constantly shitting on every VR experiment like No Man's Sky, claiming that PC's and players "can't handle" anything more substantial than a laggy unoptimized shooting range simulator.

>>418763503
Payday 2 VR is good.
GTFO VR is good
Skyrim VR(modded to hell and back) is good
Dead Effect 2 VR port is good.
They are not native games with muh charge handle pull good. But is on par or better then earlier VR games like Raw Data.

>>418763503
It's both. As I said, it costs $1500 to play VRchat, Pavlov, and Beat Saber ad nauseam. No-one outside of enthusiasts will pay that. Developers haven't been able to take any kind of risk in over a decade and making games for such a niche platform is a huge risk that won't pay off when they can just make the same shit as last year again. Short of hundreds of mommy's basement devs appearing out of nowhere and making a ton of games, it won't change.

>>418754649
Subbed

>>418763503
>These AAA developer cunts need to stop shitting out bad ports of existing games and then blaming the lack of interest in VR as to why their shitty port failed.
Let's not forget the absolute travesty that was MoH specifically made bottom up for VR that completely fucking poisoned the well of perspective big investment from companies into vr games. I am still mad

Did you delete me???

anyone checked out this new voice changer? koe.ai

>>418766671
Yeah, you were too gay to have on my friends list

>>418768027
Sounds awful and everyone who uses it sounds the same.
BUT, it's still miles better than R's voice changer and I can actually kinda understand this one which I can't say for most other voice changer programs.

>>418768027
>not realtime
don't care

>>418768152
Fuck

>>418768180
Pretty sure it is realtime, the samples on the website just aren't
I have heard people use it yesterday, they were talking about koe. Maybe I misunderstood and they're actually using something else?

>>418768180
The program can output in realtime to an output like VB Cable and you can use it that way for VRChat

>>418768027
sounds like shit

>>418768027
Even the demo outputs on the website don't sound too great. They have that noise in them that most AI voice changers have, like 15.ai did

>>418768027
I'd rather hear your real voice

>>418768027
yuru was using it a few days ago. i hope he doesn't stick with it cuz it sounds like ass

Voice changers are cringe and you will always sound like a robotranny.

>I'm not a tranny
>I just use exclusively female avatars
>And talk about girl shit
>And use voice changers to sound female
>And order diy HRT online

>I'm not a furry
>I just have ears and tails and paws on all my avatars
>And am overly sexualised
>And love headpats and tummy rubs owo uwu nuzzles and snuggles stroke my tail and i'll bark for you daddy

Trannyfurs, all of you. Every single fucking one of you. You're all trannyfurs. Holy fucking shit.

robotrannys are the biggest cope ever. if you want to sound like a girl just do voice training already.

>>418769726
imagine waiting years to sound like a fucking robo tranny instead of just spending that time to practice a bit

Just embrace your real voice. It's less grating than AI and it's not like you can hear it anyway.

>>418769726
Anyone who interacts with actual females will be able to tell

>>418769726
>>418769916
Imagine crazy people making irrational decisions lol lmao rofl

just be gifted with a naturally softer voice, its quite shrimple really.

>>418770194
you just haven't heard a good one yet

>>418770196
robotranny cope

>>418763503
VR doesn't need some hit game. It doesn't AAA corporate committees. It doesn't need a horde of poor, crayon-eating normies. All we'll get is content for the lowest common denominator. All games will only have a head and pair of hands because the poors can't afford trackers. All games will be designed for teleportation because half of everyone gets VR sick.
The normies must be purged. VR needs enthusiasts. VR needs creators, modders, hackers building on previous work, standing on shoulders of giants to create something larger. Making a VR game should be as easy as downloading a prefab and then editing stuff. That way we can have games that take full advantage of VR. Because it'll be just that easy. VRChat provides a taste of this. It's the hit product. In VRC, you can buy trackers for your limbs, torso, and even for your mouth, buy the beefiest computer and best headset and see what it's like to game with 4000€. The users are building the content, hacking together worlds and avatars. Every other VR game fails to excite me. I want my legs. I want to see my friends in their avatars.
But I have an issue with VRChat. It's shit for actual gameplay. You can't even make a good Among Us gamemode in VRC. Udon is a lame duck. VRC is too walled-off. You can't really program much. We need a better virtual environment. For now, I'd be happy to just play board games in my avatar and to see my friends in theirs, but all the games in VRC are janky as hell, limited with what you can do, and you need to go to a dedicated world to play them. There's no reason I shouldn't be able to just download a chess set to my world. There's no reason to have to fumble around trying to hit a button or grab an object where the selection latches on to something completely random. Like, Jesus, just playing Mahjong, it's like pulling teeth!

>>418769726
>voice training
You will never sound like a woman, you will just train your voice to sound like a retard.

>>418773402
I think you may need to re-read what I wrote my friend, I'm calling them the crazy robo trannies and saying we shouldn't expect them to be reasonable because they're already crazy to begin with or they wouldn't be robotrannies would they?

>>418773773
spitting facts mom, but i feel like a decent foothold into the normie thing is a good way to also attract more of the autists that make the good stuff
if more open platforms become popular or if a game with the same freedom as neos becomes actually usable and playable we might be well on our way.
shame the VRC devs don't realize the gem they're holding in their hands and are squandering it.

>>418773773
>VRC is too walled-off
Yet, it has the most user freedom of any game ever released.

>>418697390
hoe gaat het?

>>418773773
>You can't even make a good Among Us gamemode in VRC
???
>Udon is a lame duck. VRC is too walled-off. You can't really program much.
udon 2 literally ditches the node shit

>>418774525
>most user freedom of any game ever released
Yeah, maybe. I'm sure someone could think of a trivial counter-example, but that's not the point. They just rolled out EAC. Everything's ultimately hosted on their servers. There's still so far we could go.

>>418774525
Not really, it just happens to be the most popular and most polished/usable VR game of its kind right now. That sort of structure that makes it easy to get into and just play.
Neos has MUCH more freedom but the game sucks to play and sucks to develop with.
Lavender is
CVR at least has props so you can just drop a chess table anywhere, but CVR lacks players, lacks polish and lacks world scripting.

Why do I keep falling in love with mentally ill boys wearing cute girl avatars?

>>418774969
dude same
i wish they would love me back

>>418774769
Amogus in VRC exists but it's very easily broken and was apparently really hard to develop within the constraints of Udon, particularly getting the networking to play nicely. As it stands, the VRChat networking still has massive delays and it makes realtime games nearly nonviable. You may notice that the most popular and most fun Udon games or minigames are all either turn-based, or games where a whole second of delay doesn't matter. Enter a Pvp world and you will find yourself rounding a corner and then dropping dead from a bullet that was fired over a second ago.
>udon 2 literally ditches the node shit
Cool, does that mean in 2-3 years' time we will finally be able to use basic C# concepts like Lists? Will networking be less obtuse? Will the performance impact of simple calculations be less awful?
Udon puts VRC ahead of the competition but it's a buggy and awful mess with almost no documentation on how anything works.
"Lame duck" sounds about right.

>>418768027
>>418768165
>>418768959
I did try it out. It's okay. It sounds a bit robotic still but as another anon said, it's very very clear compared to other voice changers. It actually does change some of the qualities of your voice beyond pitching up and down.
It also is pretty much real time, there's a 100-150ms delay. It may actually be a little faster than my old voice changer. I was in the pre-alpha for this and the previous version sounded a lot worse and was too much of a resource hog to use with VR. This version I was able to use in a crowded and unoptimized map and it worked pretty well.

I think that it needs a few more voices and more options but that it has a pretty good chance of being pretty decent on future releases.

>>418773773
>Making a VR game should be as easy as downloading a prefab and then editing stuff.
Not going to be the case anytime soon. We just don't have enough processing power yet.
Basically, right now vr has two major problems (or one because they are closely related),
1. proper vr development requires insane amount of competence.
2. people with that much competence expect to be compensated (aka they dont want to starve). There are not enough people who are willing to pay, and even then, the devs with such set of skills can earn 10x amount of money for half the effort doing non-vr stuff, which leaves us with enthusiast who are driven by passion. And there are just not enough of them.

>>418774969
You are the mentally ill boy

>>418775258
>2-3 years
next couple months
>basic C# concepts like Lists?
yes
> Will networking be less obtuse?
yes
> no documentation
????

>>418775340
why not both

>>418775025
I wish they wouldn't start another relationship while in a relationship with me and then come sending me $300 on paypal as an apology everytime.

I wish they weren't such a degenerate porn addict 30 years old neet and actually help themselves find a good job and goals in their life without such a destructive lifestyle.

>>418774769
>You can't even make a good Among Us gamemode in VRC
>???
VRC Among Us is shite and must have been a massive pain to put together as the other anon said. Anyone still playing Among Us plays it modded with advanced roles but just imagine developing that shit in VRC.

>>418775480
pic rel

>>418699401
Based. Faggots should burn in hell.

>>418773773
this
I swear im going to start my vr game this summer.

>dogfuckers in thread

>>418775480
>next couple months
Just like physbones and contacts, right? Or the UI update that would allow world creators to put their own menus in your quick menu? how long has it been since they promised that? how long has the UI rework been out?
>no documentation
Half the shit in Udon isn't documented, especially when it comes to networking or the way interactions actually work. Everything is hidden away inside inner circle discords where a few autists figure this shit out and share it with the rest of the inner circle.
There is 1 article in the official docs that gives a basic overview of how networking works, but it does not talk about any of the newer features or which specific methods/noodles to use.
then you try to make something clever and get the big fat error "Not exposed in Udon".
You can't even make a simple UdonSharp script that allows you to toggle a list of arbitrary components on/off because that shit isn't exposed. It only works if you specify the component type manually.
So if you want to toggle 5 mesh renderer and 6 collider components on interaction with a button, you have to make a separate array for mesh renderers and then separate ones for each of the specific collider types you intend to toggle.
the amount of times i have had to use animations to control a specific property on an object because "hurr this property isn't exposed" is astounding too.

>>418765961
gotchu

>>418776157
>physbones
anon, I-

>>418776792
In case you didn't understand, we were told that we were going to get physbones and/or contacts (i forgot which one, or both) in a short amount of time and that ended up being hilariously late

>>418775258
>basic C# concepts like Lists?
Just use an array lol

>>418775324
I put in a bunch of samples of different voices and the output sounds exactly the same. It looks like it converts your speech to TTS then outputs it again.

>>418777238
That's not a list
Also have you tried sorting an array in Udon before, it's downright painful (and also ultra slow)
I had to defer the sorting to only run every minute because it literally causes a lagspike trying to sort 60 integers

>>418777569
I heard it yesterday and it does seem to copy speech mannerisms so I doubt it's TTS, it's just hyper aggressive in changing the voice.

>>418777698
A list would be even slower then.

It's crap, it sounds like trash. Please don't use it, don't use any voice changers, none of them sound good, you do not sound like a girl and you especially don't sound like your latest anime crush.

>>418777863
The point is that it's only slow because we have to manually implement quicksort in an incredibly slow VM that makes even basic operations super slow. Any kind of LINQ sort methods are not exposed and coupled with the slowness of Udon it becomes downright painful.
If we had to manually implement LINQ it would be slow too, the point is that we don't really have access to C# or anything that's super useful.

>>418775338
>We just don't have enough processing power yet
This isn't a processing power issue. It's an issue of closed source and having to reinvent the wheel every time.
>proper vr development requires insane amount of competence
Because you have to start from scratch every time, down to implementing the VR. A game dev shouldn't have to worry about avatars, trackers, or IK or any low-level stuff. They should be freed to work on game objects where the controls and colliders on the player's side are already figured out. If I want to make a game about shooting ducks, I would only have to develop the gun shooting when triggered and then the ducks being shot. I shouldn't have to program anything VR related.

>>418777569
I don't think it does exactly that because you can still hear accents, inflection, cadence through it. I don't think it's TTS because it preserves some of the qualities of the original voice.
If you want to hear it, just track me down at pypy or this weekend and I'll say some stuff using it for you.

>>418770590
No

Please don't use a voice changer.
Please get help, you are good and worth more than this, do not throw your life away the surgery cannot be undone.

>>418778071
There is a lot of prefabs for unity and unreal which deal with low level VR stuff like grabbing throwing. Even the official SteamVR plugin is fine for this.

Avatars, trackers Ik - not really...

Best bet to just make a game you could show to friends is unironically, despite all, to make VRChat world.

>>418778071
> It's an issue of closed source and having to reinvent the wheel every time.
Retarded take. If you don't understand the code (aka cannot write it on your own easily), you are not going to get good performance. Period.
>Because you have to start from scratch every time, down to implementing the VR.
It's not how it works. YOU CANNOT THROW AWAY THE CYCLES, YOU IDIOT. This is the whole point. If it's like black magic for you, it's not going to work properly. There is nothing you can do about.

>>418778168
lmao obviously its yuru whos using it already

>>418778390
yes it's me, yuru
If you want to hear what it sounds like just track me down.

>>418778771
Please stop, it is not too late, even you can be saved.

>If you want to hear what it sounds like
But I know what old dog barking sounds like already.

>>418697185
Das my buddy, he a cool dude

>>418776996
late compared to what exactly?

>>418779096

I love how his name is a Jerma985 reference, my favorite influencer

>>418779096
your buddy uses ripped avatars.

>>418778816
Saved from what?

>>418779171
Compared to the timeframe they originally gave
>>418779341
His avatars are public you troglodyte

>>418778307
>Best bet to just make a game you could show to friends is unironically, despite all, to make VRChat world
Yeah, hence the problem. VRChat is the best we've got, but it's still shit.
>>418778350
>If you don't understand the code (aka cannot write it on your own easily), you are not going to get good performance
What on earth are you saying? You can mod things without having to write the whole things from scratch. The performance can be plenty good.
>If it's like black magic for you, it's not going to work properly. There is nothing you can do about.
But people are already doing it. They're making games in VRC. It's just they're shit because VRC limits what you can do. You're unbelievably narrow-minded to the point I think you're trolling.

>>418779385
Transgenderism

>>418778771
I'm not the person who asked originally but I want to hear that

It's so nice to know that /vrg/ is unironically an LGTBQAA+ and furry lifestyle safe space in 2023, it's been a long time coming but the change in discourse here in the side-thread and all the happy new queer faces in the main discord are really filling me with love and acceptance.

>>418779392
That one isn't, rhy confirmed this last night

>>418779715
oh well then lol xd. will never understand why people just rip avatars
only reason i ever ripped an avatar is because it was an MMD model that was locked on some chinese website that needed a chinese phone number, chinks are disgustingly stingy with their models when it comes to foreigners

>>418779409
>You're unbelievably narrow-minded to the point I think you're trolling.
Because I actually know what I'm talking about, contrary to you.
"I'm just going to slap shit together and it will just work" it's just wrong. The two things you will get for sure are bad performance and a lot of bugs. You are just naïve.

Why rip any models ever? Just make your own avatar? Even if it's shit at least its yours

>>418780107
skids are gonna skid. had to listen to some faggot last night drone on and on about how his computer got fried because he ripped some avatar that had a virus embedded in it. literally just making shit up for skid cred

>>418780302
>had to listen to some faggot last night drone on and on

No you didn't. You didn't HAVE to listen and you should have done something. I want these fucking faggot zoomers gone.

>>418778071
This is the main problem. Want to do finger tracking? Enjoy writing 1000 lines.

>>418780468
no i had to listen because i was laughing my ass off the whole time

>>418773773
neos is right there anon

>>418780547
>he thinks that's hard
Try actually writing a renderer and you will shit and piss your pants.

>>418779459
Oh, don't worry in that case. I'm happy with who I am.

>>418779468
It's very easy to turn on and off so just hit me up when you see me.

>>418780660
Oh right then I misunderstood. My bad.

>>418780789
>I'm happy with who I am.

You clearly aren't though. You are suffering from an illness of the mind brought on by no sense of social cohesion and weak parenting.
All of it can be fixed, you just need to take it a step at a time. It's okay to be who you were born as, there's nothing wrong with that, you don't need to be "special" by taking hormones and crossdressing.
You are loved and your illness is making you hurt your loved ones and yourself.

>>418780747
That hasn't been a required part of making a game in decades. Even engine devs use libraries for that.

>>418780547
So basically we need more and better libraries. I think some might already exist but it's definitely not easy, and you also have to cope with different controller types.
This is basically the same shit we had to deal with back in the day before DInput and XInput, and even then we had to support both of those so that was more boilerplate. Unity just doesn't provide a lot of standardized shit out of the box yet.
The problem is that controllers are weird and different and not everything has a main button, like the shitty vive wands

>>418781095
Coincidently games weren't good in decades.
>Even engine devs use libraries for that.
lol

If you're not writing your game in ASM you're a loser.

>Hurr durr coding is copy-pasting shit from stackoverflow and importing gigabytes of libraries to make Hello World work :DDDDD I AM VERY SMART

>>418778771
guess it's time to lower your volume again

>>418780789
Alright, I'll do that when I can

>>418781287
You are strawmaning, but you don't need to write everything in asm. Compilers are decent enough for 95% of the code. Only using non-retarded parts of c++ and inline asm when necessary is all you need.

>>418781616
>You are strawmaning

Correct. I do this because I find it funny to do so. But it doesn't mean I'm entirely wrong.

India and StackOverflow have been disasterous for the software industry. People are writing code they do not fucking understand and being paid to do so, entirely off the backs of other people's work.

You know what I learned in? Locomotive BASIC. If I didn't know how to do something I had to figure it the fuck out, not go ask someone else for their solution and just hammer it into my code until it barely worked. So yeah, when I see the state of modern software people saying "Oh we just need more, bigger, libraries" I cringe fucking hard. Can't help it.

>>418781149
>we need more and better libraries
XR Interaction Toolkit is attempting to become that, but it isn't lightweight or extensible at all. Maybe it will get there eventually.
>The problem is that controllers are weird and different and not everything has a main button, like the shitty vive wands
OpenXR already solved that. Every controller has at least: two buttons, a trigger, a grip, and an analog stick. You don't need to make control sets for every controller imaginable.

>>418782012
>two buttons
vivewand moment (can still manage with positional analog stick click)

>>418781978
I don't think the UnityEngine.Input.GetKeyDown() method is comparable to copying other people's code desu.

>>418782416
NTA, but what a way to miss the point completely.

>>418782312
In the words of the Boneworks devs: get a real controller, you're missing AT LEAST an entire top-face button, and compared to the Index also a stick or a touchpad.
Not saying that the index touchpad is at all comfortable to use (especially if games try to use left/right on it or if you have to click it), but it's there.

>>418782312
Vive wand is the exception and it only lacks the primary button. I don't think there's any other controller that won't simply work as intended.

>>418782012
>OpenXR already solved that. Every controller has at least: two buttons
Both of which are stolen by system UI 100% of the time.

>>418782510
I don't think it's unreasonable to expect VR development to get to the point where we can have the same bool for a VR button press rather than having to write all this: >>418780547

>>418782967
It will get there, it's just the early days and there are libraries but they're all young.

>>418782967
You can write all basic input code in a weekend easily. EASILY.
Stop being intimidated by lines of code, you monkey. It's doing very simple stuff, it's just explicit.
You retards are so fucking entitled, you don't even need to write your own renderer or physics engine. "ewwwww, is that 100 lines of code to process input???!!! SAVE ME NIGGER MAN!"
Pathetic.

>>418783273

>Why yes, I want to be a literal god, but I don't want to study. How can you tell?

>>418783273
> I thought using loops was cheating so I programmed my own samples. Then I thought using samples was cheating so I recorded real drums. I then thought that programming it was cheating so I learnt to play drums for real. I then thought using bought drums was cheating so I learnt to make my own. I then thought that using pre-made skins was cheating so I killed a goat and skinned it. I then thought that that was cheating too, so I grew my own goat from a baby goat. I also think that is cheating but I'm not sure where to go from here. I haven't made any music lately, what with the goat farming and all.

>>418780060
>"I'm just going to slap shit together and it will just work" it's just wrong.
People are already doing it. Expert-chama. It just works. But it's easy to see the limitations.
>>418780547
Exactly. All the boilerplate and having to code device level shit should be eliminated.
>>418780694
>neos is right there anon
Neos is just a meme. If there were anything interesting you could do in Neos I'd have heard of it. The game itself is "we would like to open source it at some point in the future"TM. I don't believe you can even host your own server.
>>418781978
>India and StackOverflow have been disasterous for the software industry
Pointless contrarian

>>418783650
And here comes the brainlet cope strawman. Where is the "premature optimization" misquote btw?

>>418783710
>It just works. But it's easy to see the limitations.
Yeah, I see exactly how it "just works", retard.

>>418783710
Poojeet stackoverflower detected

>>418783832
>when you spend 13 years to make this

Ideally coding should just be drag n drop, no actual knowledge of anything behind that system required.

You want the ball to bounce? You drag the BOUNCE box onto the BALL box, now the ball bounces.

That's the end-game of coding right there.

It sucks having to write your own stuff for basic functionality, but if you're a decent programmer you should be able to just eat the time loss and write a small wrapper for it yourself. Just write that button handling, get it working well and then make it so you never have to touch that part of the code again. Do that a few times and you'll be able to get to the meat of your funny little game.
Bonus points for finding an example implementation of said boilerplate in either Valve's SDK's or online in a documentation/unity forum/stack overflow. Not everything needs to be a spoonfed NuGet package when you're making a small hobby project. No investors or clients riding your ass about getting it done within a short time.

>>418784248
Don't even need to know how to program to tell that's a terrible idea. Stuff like that is how you end up with absolute shit performance

>>418784248
You can basically do that in Unreal Engine.

Has anyone here 3d printed and painted their avatar? Tempted to do it

>>418784373
>>418784401
Hi, I'd like to introduce you two posts to eachother.

Now step back and realise that anon above has been right all along and UE games look good but run and play like shit for that very reason.

Writing code using libraries you don't understand is how society works; you use stuff you don't understand every day. Homes, roads, electronic devices, sewage, logistics, finance, etc. When you ue your credit card you don't expect to know the details of every single piece of infrastructure that goes into making that transaction, plus all the financial operations and laws that underpin it, you just use the functionality.

>>418784159
You know there is a middle ground between soldering transistors yourself and pressing "create game now, do it fast, and dont ask me anything" in unity, right?
Why are so insistent on refusing to learn? You life is worthless, you cannot spend time in a better way anyway.

>>418784248
Impossible until you have unlimited amount of processing power. Just like you cannot go faster than speed of light, you just have to deal with it.

>>418784270
>It sucks having to write your own stuff for basic functionality
You only have to do it once. After that you just reuse your own code. It doesn't go stale, you know. It doesn't really suck. Every competent programmer should have a library of his own code which he can just reuse.
The difference is, you understand every single line of it, because you wrote it yourself.

>Why does everything crash all the fucking time, why is nothing easy, why does basic software run like absolute ass even compared to my computer two decades ago this makes no sense
Takes a breath
>Anyway, you don't need to understand what's IN the libraries to use them :^)

>>418784724
Otherwise, you get TempleOS.

>>418773773
I wish people would share more stuff, particularly for VRC. Made a minigolf game? Release the fucking prefab so we can all make more courses.
That's what makes Unity so great, there's a ton of assets to integrate or learn from. Gmod was the same, I learned Lua by modifying and expanding on other people's work until I could create my own more complex stuff from scratch.

>>418784724
>How to Bring the Collapse of Civilization 101.

>>418784902
TempleOS doesn't need a networking stack because the only thing you need to network with is god

>>418784902
We need more TempleOS though. God we desperately need more TempleOS.

>>418784976
You mean how to build a civilization, idiot. Go on, tell me the intricate details of how farming and agriculture works.
Assuming of course you eat food that other people made for you.

>>418784829
>You know there is a middle ground
Your placement of this is arbitrary. For you, C++ is fine but anything anyone has created beyond that is unacceptable. Terry A Davis would consider you a nigger for using C++, but you can't explain objectively why he is wrong any more than you can explain why creating your own rendering is absolutely essential.

>>418784829
>The difference is, you understand every single line of it, because you wrote it yourself.
You did understand it at some point in time, but generally that'll be hard 10 years later, unless you are meticulous with your documentation.
I imagine reading complex old code is almost like reading someone else's code. Because the you of the past is basically that.

>>418785143
If I were doing farming and agriculture I would know everything about it.
It's just not my area of expertise.
You are suggesting that fundamental knowledge is not needed even for your own area of expertise. And that bring the collapse of civilization exactly when stuff built by people who actually knew what they were doing stops working and new people are too incompetent to fix it.
If you don't even see the problem, you are the real idiot here.

IBM 486 from 98 running windows 95 on 16mb of SDRAM and a PATA 250mb HDD:
>Click on notepad shortcut
>Notepad opens immediately

Latest 5800X3D running windows 10 running on 64gb of DDR5 in quad channel and an M.2 NVMe raid array of 2TB
>Click on notepad shortcut
>Noticeable delay before notepad opens


This issue is going to get worse as tech schools pump out more people like you and if you're sitting there thinking "Oh man that's not important, that doesn't matter" then you're already fucked.

>>418785554
>windows 95 as an example of stable software

>>418783890
>stackoverflower
That's adorable anon! ^.^
>>418784248
>Ideally coding should just be drag n drop, no actual knowledge of anything behind that system required
Ideally, yeah. But that's maybe a bit optimistic.
>>418784373
>Stuff like that is how you end up with absolute shit performance
I just want to recreate Monopoly or Among Us in VR and download it to my room at will. The performance doesn't need to be peachy.
>>418784938
>I wish people would share more stuff, particularly for VRC. Made a minigolf game? Release the fucking prefab so we can all make more courses.
This is the dream!

>>418782967
it is there, it's just written the worst way possible

>>418785773
No amount of flowers can overpower the stink of your shitting streets

>>418785685
Do you have any sort of concept or frame of reference for just how indescribable the difference in performance is between those two computers? Can you even fucking conceive the difference in any useful or realistic way?

And yet the "faster" computer is taking longer to perform a very basic action.

>>418785481
The intricacies of the windows and linux kernel are not my expertise but I rely on their syscalls to do even basic operations. Then people build libraries on that to perform more advanced operations, like networking. Then that is built on to drive HTTP, and so on and so forth.
Petrochemicals, metallurgy, engineering, bioscience, genetic manipulation, etc etc all go into a simple bit of agriculture, and I just build on that by buying bread. (Sometimes I buy flour)

>>418786074
Windows 95 also crashes 1000 times more often so it's not the best example of 'old thing good'.

>>418786074
It performs more actions to launch Notepad than win95. And even Notepad is more capable.

>>418786345
*runs third party drivers in kernel*

>>418785220
>You did understand it at some point in time, but generally that'll be hard 10 years later, unless you are meticulous with your documentation.
>I imagine reading complex old code is almost like reading someone else's code. Because the you of the past is basically that.
Programming is all about processing data. If you just explain the main insight briefly, you can reverse engineer your own code.
And if you don't use the code for 10 years, is it really useful?

>>418785186
Code is just a tool to access the processing power of your computer.
Everything built upon it is a tradeoff between performance and ease of use.
I'm not a fetishist, I don't jerk-off to C++ or asm, I just used to them after using them extensively.
>more than you can explain why creating your own rendering is absolutely essential.
But I can. The gist is "if you don't understand how things work, you are going to get bad performance, bugs and an unexceptional result overall".

>>418786202
What is your expertise then? You don't even know that your CPU is doing 80% of the time. Are you not embarrassed of yourself?
Windows kernel is not that complicated, and actually a well written part of windows btw. Just so you know.

>>418786202
YOU aren't the problem here anon. You buy bread to make your sandwiches, some people only buy gas station sandwiches. Those are the problem.

>>418786345
You are being wilfully ignorant, I am not saying old is good. I am giving a direct example in my own experience for how shit is going fucking nuts.
>>418786403
How much more capable is it anon? Is it "No delay on a single threaded 60mhz processor vs notable delay on a 3.8ghz 8 core 16 thread processor"? Do you really think notepad is that much more complex? Or do you think there could be an issue somewhere.

>>418786584
>You don't even know that your CPU is doing 80% of the time
In VRC? Context swapping

>>418786584
>arbitrarily trusts the compiler to never introduce any unexpected problems

What does your look like again, I forgot

>>418787029
This is such a stupid thing to worry about. And you can inspect the asm output anyway.

>>418786656
I don't think buying bread is equivalent to writing your own engine from scratch desu.

>Arbitrarily trusts the chemicals in his brain to never aeifcweaiopmdfwpadmpfeaf

>>418787107
Mother fucker I hate auto correct, Yuru* not your

>>418787262
I fucking hate you cunt and I wouldn't stop to piss on you if you were on fire.

>>418787107
another kikyo recolor

>>418785186
n-word used

>>418787107
>>418787352
>What does Yuru look like again
Here he is

>>418787107

>>418785554
"The achievements of the software industry over the last thirty years are astonishing. They've managed to entirely negate several orders of magnitude of performance improvements provided by the hardware industry"

>>418787470
It's a direct quote.

>>418787505
Ok, why does the leg collar glow whateverthefuckitis thing say moub tho

>>418787580
A fucking beautiful quote from a beautiful mind.

>>418787702
Naturally, a collar has the name of the pet's owner

>hmm, yes, I think I'll spend 1000 hours reinventing the wheel
>never creates even a minimum viable product
At least there's no bugs.

>>418783710
just being in neos is interesting
you can create anything you want while also being in vr with friends
all servers are technically self hosted, its the assets that are streamed to people from the neos servers. I think you might be able to host those but am unsure. There's even a headless version for running servers but you need to pay for that.

>>418787876
Why would I invent the wheel when I have the triangle? Sure the ride isn't as smooth but it JUST WERKS

>>418787901
NTA, neos is cool as shit but I could totally see it being a super abuseable nightmare. That aside I don't think the current gen of hardware is really prepared for it, it runs like dogshit when you have more than a few people in it. Really fucking wild to see all the nutty things people have produced tho.

>>418787972
because my boss wants it to just werk and round wheels aren't in the budget
If you want to make something that performs well nowadays in an established land like 3D games, you will have to spend extraordinary amounts of time and effort and channel a lot of autism to get things working. Then x3 that if you want something that actually works or performs better than the current popular premade game engines. Make that x4 to account for security issues people find in your code.

>>418787972
>I don't like some modern car features but instead of just not including them I need to redesign the car from first principles despite 95% of it already working fine

>Buy brand new Vive Pro Eye
>Randomly stops outputting signal 4 months later
>No warranty because it was secondhand from some tech company who bought it but never used it
Never buying anything secondhand again. Shit feels hollow without my face tracking.

>>418788149
it's more like the game just not being optimized well. i get 45fps in an empty homeworld

>>418787853

>>418788335
Maybe you should have made your own HMD from scratch you fucking scrub?

>>418787876
>why yes I use the same wheels on bicycles and mining trucks, i'm not stupid enough to waste time reinventing it, you know?

>>418788335
If you understood the hardware, it wouldn't have broken. This is the whole point. If it's like black magic for you, it's not going to work properly.

>>418788516
>just 25 more years until I finally complete one of the worst cars ever manufactured but at least I didn't rely on any existing knowledge

I love you guys.

>>418788516
>reinventing the wheel means make wheels in different sizes
I wish I was as dumb as you. Existence must be bliss.

>>418788335
time to buy mine

>>418788813
>I didn't rely on any existing knowledge
Nobody fucking does it. You are actually free to use all existing knowledge, not just the shit pajet bothered to implement in off-the-shelf shit engine.

Hi, in ~1h30 at 21:00CET I will host an instance of AIMusic.
It's a rhythm game within vrc that seems inspired by music gungun, you have a gun and you shoot at circles

>>418788976
Be honest, have you ever actually made anything?

>>418789048
Does this run on GPT3?

>>418788892
>he thinks only size is different
You are much dumber, bro. Your wish came true.

>>418787107
>>418787352
my avatar looks like this

>>418787505
2/10 you didn't even recolor the hair or change the name on his leg
And my hairstyle is different.

>>418787853
those are fighting words

>>418789112
No, because I waste time arguing with retards on the internet, instead of finishing my game.

>>418789234
gm sis

>>418787505

>>418788901
I'll just save up for a Deckard over the next 10,000 years then buy a used XR Elite on my death bed when it's worth 2 pennies and a roll of toilet paper.

>>418789384
are you that poor?

>>418789234
did you switch hair styles and start using a voice changer to make yourself more interesting than moub?

>>418789374
lmao did he shit his pants again?

>>418789664
a rock is more interesting than moub

>>418789786

>>418789234
Alright, we share similar eye colors lmao

>>418789920

>>418770590
why post random twitter gooks especially one of MY sluts?

>>418789234
Looks like you are wearing a wig.

>>418789370
hello good morning

>>418789664
Nah. I changed hair caught I thought this hairstyle looked cute. I change hair every once in awhile but booth hair is really hit and miss.
The voice changer I've been playing around with but I don't see myself using it full time or anything like that. A voice changer would need to be really great for me to go full time voice changer again.

>>418790041
purple is good

>>418790090
not even him but get a better bit, this ones kind've bland and it got old quickly you can do way better

>>418775693
>>418775025
>>418774969
dude same a few of my ex's bought me FBT but kept cucking me so i broke it off with them and sold my FBT and refuse to re-buy it i need a wholesome partner to buy me FBT again but this time NOT cheat or break me

I WANT TO BE WHOLESOME GROOMED NOT EVIL TRANNY GROOMED OKAY
>>418775796
udon but we hired merlin 6 months ago and he finally did a single thing edition
udon but we let one of the third part tool guys work directly on the code!

>>418790273
stop shitting yourself first

>>418790307
good morning jelly

>>418790548
i fucking hate your nepotism hiring process and i know all your secrets rectify you sin or ill be your downfall you have 5 years time from a year ago, and let's minus an 2 years because I said so. You have 2 years (3 including this one thats already started and has a 1.5 months off it) you're so fucking dumb for thinking a few million dollars makes you invincible keep going and see what waits for you, EVERYONE in vrc knows

>>418790250
Have you considered voice training?

Is there a way to get banned by saying nigger even if nobody reports you or hears you?

>>418790250
good cuz it sounds like shit

>>418791074
basically if you anti cheat doesn't register you saying 'black lives matter' at least once a month you get banned for racism

>>418784829
>Why are so insistent on refusing to learn?
Because if I can't figure it out myself in a reasonable time frame or find a tutorial I don't know how I'm even meant to learn it.

>>418791074
No. VRC does not use any kind of automated detection or moderation system, as far as anyone is aware.

>A THREAD IS ACTUALLY HAVING A DISCUSSION AND DOESN'T TALK ABOUT ME FOR 30 MINUTES?????
>Let's derail it by posting /soc/shit and samefagging!

>>418791214
yes you do thats exactly what EAC is not to mention you guys created hornet to nuke client users who bypass EAC (who think theyre SO smart for bypassing EAC but didnt figure out hornet and never will becasue i endlessly taunt skiddies about hornet and never reveal how it obviously works)

>>418791357
It's moot because the local schizo has just woken up. See in you 12 hours when the thread is usable again.

>>418790250
One eye is blind though

>>418791521
you are the fucking schizo

>>418790932
No. not really. I'm not interested in doing it for various reasons.

>>418791156
It sounds significantly better than most of the others before it and it's pretty understandable. I think it's the best so far but it does still have a very robotic sound to it. It's something I'll keep an eye on and see how it develops.

i know who you are you code for 4chanX i can smell a stinky power tripping PoS anywhere

do you feel immune? anonymous? unknown? keep going lets see what happens next piss me off so i find out more about you i need the motivation

>>418759065
Starting soon https://vrch.at/hup6ffdn or join on Pengwyn

>>418787505
>moub in the bathroom
foreign concept

>>418789614
I'm being hyperbolic but I can't buy a new headset every year. Need to save up for a house for my mother.

Refusing to use an existing game engine in the current year is just as retarded as copying unknown 'do-everything' functions from github, desu. Advancement is predicated on being able to use tools that already exist, rather than starting over every time and redoing already solved problems.

>>418791537
Let me phrase that better, one eye is purple, and the other one is gray to look blind. I even added a little scar on the blind eye.

>>418791795
>I'm not interested in doing it for various reasons.
Mind saying why?

>Heterochromia, also known as homosexual eyes

>>418793120
Ew gross I hate homos

>>418793212
But anon, self hate isn't healthy.

>>418792806
> Advancement is predicated on being able to use tools that already exist
Fundamental misconception. Advancement is predicated on being able to use knowledge that already exists, not tools.
>Refusing to use an existing game engine
The 3rd party engine paradox is that they require more knowledge to use properly (fundamentals + engine specific knowledge), not less.
Existing language are basically useless for everyone who actually needs them. Developers who can make good games with unity/unreal, can easily write their own engine even better.
Only useful for insanely big studios who want to be able to hire random shmecks from the street and don't waste time teaching them about the inhouse engine.

>>418793317
Who said it was self hate. Anyways I might've said too much about myself, it'd be bad if someone I knew checked the thread at saw me typing

>>418793120
>homochromia
>not homo

>>418793686
Anon it was a joke, I was calling you a fag but also it works on the fact that Homo means you know what don't worry about it.

>>418792975
Well first and foremost, I really have zero desire to change the way that I speak.
I don't think it sounds all that great is another reason. I can only think of one or two people who actually sound female, most people just sound like dudes making a weird voice.
And even if I wanted to, I really just don't have a lot of vocal range and speak the way I speak.

Voice training is a lot of trouble for something I have very little interest in.

>>418792975
>>418793848
>>>/soc/
>>>/discord/
>>>/fuckoff/

Homohomia

>>418760240
Wrong character, Subaru is in the wheelchair

>>418793848
Just stop pretending to be a girl will you? It's uncomfortable for absolutely everyone else around you

>>418793829
Yeah I realized lmao, I was too focused on saying that I said too much about myself to actually realize

>>418794184
???
There's no pretending. I don't really get why so many people have weird hang ups about voice changers while also using female avatars.
The statement that they sound bad is reasonable and something I basically agree with. It's just that it's odd to me when you see people using very girly or slutty avatars act like voice changers are weird it's something that makes me raise my eyebrow a bit. It's really not that different from using an avatar and on top of that AI and how quickly it's advancing is an interesting topic.

>>418793848
Did you think your old voice changer made you sound female? Do you think future voice changers will make you sound female?

>>418794575
You have to be willing to take the first step to getting help bro.

>>418794610
My old voice changer definitely sounded like a voice changer and I preferred it that way.
I do think that AI will eventually get to the point where it's indistinguishable. I mean, it's really already there with all the deepfake stuff, it's just not realtime yet. As AI develops, I think it's really going to change the internet as we know it.

In the future you'll be able to use AI as a middleware layer between your actual actions and your avatar's motions to enable more realistic feminine motions and stances, combined with AI powered voice changers and custom defined AI made avatars we're in for a real treat my sisters.

Everyone wants to use voice changers to sound like girls, but I just want to sound like Satan from that Mark Twain claymation film.

I have a thing for men using voice changers to sound female, but damn they are all fucking crazy and even more mental than 99% of women jesus christ, guaranteed to get burnt out if you try to get with one of them

>>418795325
>but damn they are all fucking crazy

Wow anon, couldn't have predicted that damn, who'd have thought a brain full of microplastics makes you fucking crazy

>>418794956
>I mean, it's really already there
https://files.catbox.moe/v1eq7n.mp4

>>418795959
I wasn't talking about that voice changer specifically. It's still pretty rough. I was talking about AI in general.

>>418795234
>everyone
theres like not even a handful of people that use them. most people recognize how cringe vc are

>>418796256
I mean among the people interested in voice changers, pretty much all of them are men wishing to emulate a female voice.

>>418752975
I had drift and cap problems in my cv1 controller (left one that did all the movement) around the 4000 hour mark. Take the little rubber gasket loose and run some proper compressed air in there instead of just blowing on it. This fixed BOTH problems. Give it a real clean.

im he underdog(cat) of this under-ground virtual world yeah gone under virtual man

>>418796114
Pretty sure it's trained on japanese voice samples too.

Sporks are pointy

>>418795959
holy shit this is ass

>>418789048
instance up https://vrch.at/bu79vdhf

>>418789370
Did you cut yourself shaving the chest hair off your boobs again? You need to be more careful hun

>>418788335
unlucky
t.two used vives that are tanks

>>418793585
>The 3rd party engine paradox is that they require more knowledge to use properly (fundamentals + engine specific knowledge), not less.
I know enough to make a game in Unity, but not a single thing about engine dev, so I don't see how that can be true.

>>418799284
READ A BOOK NIGGA

>>418794956
lol

>>418799583
What book?

>>418799583
not him but readable books in vr where please fucking respond

>>418800013
There's that cool library thing with all the project gutenberg books, I had a blast hanging out in there, can't remember the name though it was years ago

>>418799284
>I know enough to make a game in Unity
You know enough to make a poop in Unity.

>>418695816 (OP)
Bought a Quest 2
All games, except HL:Alyx (Warthunder, DCS, Raceroom) run at terrible framerate (20-30 fps)
on my 7600x / 2060S setup
i seriously doubt computer is THAT garbage that it would get such framerates even on medium settings

Anyone feel like helping a newfriend out?

I've been looking into VR performance tools, OpenXR toolkits and i can't seem to get it to work.m00rxk

>>418800120
if you find it please post literally all i want to do is read a book in vr

>>418800171
Yeah something is wrong, I don't know the solution though someone will help you.

>>418800171

Are you using oculus airlink? Try virtual desktop from the oculus store, its far better, far more settings to change and customize for performance, and you can check what is your actual bottleneck in the graphs (network, gpu, cpu)

I've got a lower powered CPU and GPU than that anon and i'm not seeing issues using my Q2 with airlink, I'm not disputing that it's not the best but I don't think it's the cause of his problem

>>418800513
>Try virtual desktop from the oculus store,
Fuck off, shill.

>>418800171
If anything, pirate that shit. Don't give your money to the canadian faggot.

>>418800793
try ALVR
its free and open sauce

>>418800513
I was, and since i have a pretty beefy router from ASUS, its actually pretty good.

But i purchased a 5 meter USB-C to C, it claimed to be 3.1 gen 2 (which is 10gbps) but it performs more in line with gen 1 at 5gbps (2.6gbps measured)

i'll check out virtual desktop from oculus store.
which api or whatever should i use for VR?
SteamVR?
Oculus's OpenXR?
OpenComposite's OpenXR?

>>418800138
But better than no game at all.

>>418801705
Not really. We have more than enough poop already.

you know, people who put a "!" in front of their name on Discord are attention seeking trannies

>>418802241

>>418802241
Yes, and?

>>418802241
Wow how did you figure that out? That's incredible

Can someone explain to me why I seem to attract actual females in vrchat but I can't for the live of me get a femboy bf?

>>418802691
>actual females in vrchat

Anon, you're surrounded by bussy

>>418802241
>using Discord at all
Does a "!" even matter at that point?

>>418800513
if you don't want to spend 20$ right away get ALVR from their github page, it's free
ok nvm >>418800856 got to say it first, nice

>>418802401
Change your name to just a single exclamation mark to fuck with them.

>>418800171
DCS has really bad VR performance. Not sure about War Thunder, but I wouldn't be surprised to find Raceroom does too since I've had issues with some other sims.
Tried anything else besides those and Alyx? It could just be the games you're playing not performing well in VR.

>>418802691
God hates fags and tries to steer you unto the right path.

>>418802978
No, sorry. I have not.
Which games would you suggest i try?
And is there anything I can do to recover performance, at least in DCS?
There isn't really that many alternatives, I'd have to go back to Falcon 4.0 and its derivative mods

I guess i'll pay Billy Gates that one cent for three months of Gamepass, try out MS2020?

>>418802912
I wish I knew this before I spent $20 about a year ago

>>418803751
>And is there anything I can do to recover performance, at least in DCS?
Faster GPU, faster (single thread) CPU, decrease MSAA mask size in settings.

>>418802691
because the actual girls on vrchat are attention seekers that just want to use you
t. used by an actual girl on vrchat

>>418804614
this. femboys just want cock

>>418803751
If you're just looking for free stuff to make sure it's not an issue with your setup, you could try The Lab or the VR mod for Half-Life 2.
The original Assetto Corsa runs better in VR than most other sims I've tried (iRacing, RF2, ACC). Dirt Rally 2 also works pretty well too if you're fine with running rally.
Not sure you really have any options other than VTOL VR for flight stuff, and that's probably simplified more than you'd like.
Only option besides getting a better card for DCS is turning settings way down. MSFS has even worse VR performance from what I've heard, so I doubt it'd be any better.

>>418804997
please shut the fuck up

>>418805153
I'm sorry boy I don't want to get to know you.

virtual reality games? do you prefer long or short trips in ETS2? there's this one available that's like 100k but it goes from south of France to norway. Norway is gorgeous in-game but its infrastructure gives me ptsd man.

>>418804997
Only the armchair and Magnum P.I. parts.

>>418804409
surely a 7600x is plenty fast
there is only a handful of CPUs in the world that outperform it in single core

as for the GPU, sure, that would be great, if it wasnt because 4060 is going to be a 8gb 128 bit bus 800$ card

gpu choices are absolutely terrible right now
and besides, a 2060 super from EVGA surely should be able to power most of this crap considering it gets sub 8ms frametimes in Alyx on ultra settings.

it just doesnt make sense to me why im getting 30 fps in war thunder and 20 in DCS?
And while i get 20-30 in raceroom, it feels even worse than that

I saw that apparently OpenXR and OpenComposite are highly recommended apps, but i can't seem to get them to work.
I can't tell if OpenComposite is actually working. I'm enabling OpenXR in it like im supposed to, and launching through steam, but i dont see any difference.

I have yet to be able to make the OpenXR toolkit work, to enable foveated rendering and all that, yet.

For whatever reason, the keybinds just doesn't bring up the menu.

Man, this shit is a real headache...
Help a brother out, pretty please

>>418803751
>>418804980
>Not sure you really have any options other than VTOL VR
Forgot IL2 also has VR support, but I'm not sure how well it runs.

>>418803930
i ended up just supporting the vd dev and was pretty happy with it but yea, ALVR could have been a better temporary chioce then vd straight away

Christ I forgot how repulsive NA hours are. Full of coomers, schizos, neets, trannies, furries, and Rando enablers.

>>418805539
How could you ever forget something like this?

>>418805539
>Full of coomers, schizos, neets, trannies, furries

I have never been to any /vrg/ event/meet that didn't check all of these boxes.

>and Rando enablers.
And recently this box too.

>>418805347
>considering it gets sub 8ms frametimes in Alyx on ultra settings
Alyx is pretty well optimized and also does dynamic resolution scaling to help with performance. It's not really a good indicator of how well anything else will run on your system.

>>418798759
we moved here, come fite https://vrch.at/tgms3yrt

>>418802241
>>418802401
>>418802439
>>418802551
What does that actually do? I'm too afraid to try it with my own account.

>>418805329
Long trips are nice when I'm in the mood for trucking. I'd rather just play racing sims and go fast most of the time though.

>>418805938
It's a symbol they've chosen to show that they are "MAP"s.

>>418805938
It forces you to the top of server lists, Discord sorts names Alphanumerically, Symbols come first.

>>418805938
It shows high importance, like in e-mails. Have you never used Outlook?

>>418804614
same anon and it's the actual opposite for me, femboys want to use me for mental games and actual girls are more straightforward and easier to deal with

>>418805329

I was about to run the sim rally masters 280km rally event from RSF but it's just too much, it's almost 4 hours of rally with only one possible break in between

>>418805282
i wouldnt want to know you either

>>418806665
the only straightforward and chill grills i've met in vrc are already in relationship

>>418806665
I'll take all your femboys off your hands no problem, free of charge. I have a professional closed environment for them to live in they'll be fine.

>>418792365
Thanks for coming, same time next week for episodes 5-8

>>418806351
Yeah, and you press the button to mark an email high importance. Adding ! in front doesn't do anything but make you look mexican.
>>418806148
most plausible explanation

>>418807079
hopefully I'll be able to make it next time, got caught up with a last minute call

>>418807017
Everybody needs to stop using VRC as a dating app, goddammit.

>>418807017
From what I've seen, the majority of actual females are in drama-causing relationships that last maybe a few weeks and even going as far as dating multiple people at once.

>>418784520
Saw some printed but not painted. DO IT

>>418808019

Pavlov-Bros... next update pls hurry up

>we will create a legacy branch so you can switch to an older version of Pavlov and access the content currently in Workshop.
In case they fuck the update up

>Does PSVR2 have features the PC version does not?

>Adaptive trigger features unique behavior on a per gun level
>Eye tracking for the character's eyes
>HMD haptics on head damage

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/555160/view/3664276657369662313

>>418801926
If you have a VRchat avatar, did you make it yourself?

>>418808550
lol at the PSVR curated mods.

>>418808652
I don't use VRchat, but I know how to sculpt, do retopology, texture, rig and animate. So if I wanted I could have.

>>418807079
nice anime so far, very autistic but funny at that; I hope they'll explain what is even going on at some point

>>418754103
>EU time
rip. have fun tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5XP_J5oOMI
Like the HL2 games, Black Mesa will also get a VR mod

>>418809891
based necklace

>>418810152
THEY BROUGHT THE MOD BACK LET'S GOOOOO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgcbMWoGpU

>>418810152
anon thank you so much for telling me this, you've legit made my day I'm so happy right now

>>418810490
>10 years ago
I suddenly don't feel so good

>>418809891
I want to charge his JO crystal

>>418802691
I attract the French and Chinese

>>418811012
A fate worse than death.

>>418811012
That is really fucking horrifying, I would rather have fucking leprosy

being friendly doesn't mean I want to fuck you

Why are japanese like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwr2y1M3eSo

On the other hand, If I'M being friendly then yes I do want to fuck you.

>>418812094
Looking at people like this makes me delude myself into thinking that maybe I'm pretty decent looking.

>>418812094
Why the fuck do they always shout/scream? Just talk at a normal fucking volume dude

>>418812094
welp, definitely not worth the price right now

>>418735749
Quick reminder that sleepy golfing is happening at Midnight EST, (approximately 7 hours from now.)
Come hit some LOTTERY shots!

>>418812750
How big ya dick?

>>418812750
This looks like if someone took one of Dem's avatars and gave it to a tranny to "redesign". Awful.

>>418812750
overdesigned tranny aesthetic

>>418812750
It's one of those hippo-from-the-waist-down avatars, isn't it

>>418813690
i'm reminded of blue's femboy avatar now, thanks i hate it

>>418812750
gross

Anyone take Ashwagandha? Just heard of it today and looking to get some.

>>418814686

>>418812782
I don't think I'll be here, I've been too busy figuring a mystery. I think I'm reaching near the conclusion. I'm sure it won't be a problem once I'm gone, I always have to let you guys win from time to time.

>>418815025
Don't, it's not going to make you a Chad.
It lowers cortisol in the body giving the illusion of higher test levels while the side effects include making you a sociopath

gn /vrg/
headin off for the night

>>418816304
Goodnight babe, sleep well and have sweet dreams! See you tomorrow!

>>418794184
you don't attend meetups crinkly, you wouldn't know.

>>418808246
Might do something like this, with a diorama

I wasn't expecting them to go in this direction so soon. I don't mind it if anon goes with Yubu tho

>>418820275
>What do you think about love, anon?

>>418820567
>Definition of "Gay" is cheerful or carefree
Very nice non yes all marriages are and should be cheerful and carefree!

>>418821136
>all marriages are and should be cheerful and carefree
damn someone really should have told my parents that

>>418820275
original 1999 line for comparison

I have no idea what you're talking about.

>>418820275
>>418822529
Wow, these are good. What prompts did you use to get it to deviate from the standard AI style?

>>418822529
lmao typical moub line

>>418809891
Damn I thought of you and was wondering if you'd be able to make it. That's a shame

Toes

>>418806913
dios mio...
what is wrong with that face

Knees and

>>418820275
Love? This is love.

this thread is indistinguishable from the trash thread

>>418829486
this one says /vrg/ at the top retard

>>418829517
XD

>>418829629
Don't ever say "XD" again

I asked about the development of VR hardware over the last year or two in a previous thread and got some funny replies. Am I on the right track considering these headsets? Seems like I can get them for $400-$600 used on eBay. I don't think I can justify blowing a grand on VR.

https://vr-compare.com/compare?h1=0dLRrbMbHgL&h2=0jLuwg808-j&h3=mLbW9G7f4&h4=HdfjN_0UlPY

>>418823645
anime screencap
no 'high quality'

>>418826023
Let me know when you boys make it past Season 1 and I can try and come host the first recap movie in the custom map I made for it a few years back

>>418830230
don't get an OG Vive
avoid HTC
WMR is abandonware
get an Index

>>418830230
>I don't think I can justify blowing a grand on VR.
WMR and Quest 2 are the budget options. Index is ultimately the best choice but an HP Reverb G2 will be a nice taste of VR
By the time that headset is worn out and broken, you'll have already upgraded to an index if you stick around.

>>418830516
Oh I meant to remove the Vive, I had borrowed one from a friend in like 2019 so it's the only thing I can compare the others to.

I had an HTC phone in like 2008 and it was AIDs so I'm not a fan of the brand.

Leaning toward Index, but I don't have any interest in WMR, is the Index still better than the HP in terms of hardware?

Train map was fun boys
Shame the ride back didn't work out for some reason, fuckin moonrunes didn't help either

>>418831538

>>418831423
overall yes
it not being abandonware is a big positive
Microsoft is basically out of the VR game and won't be supporting WMR at all afaik
reverb g2 has better res/display than the Index but the Index can go upt o 144hz instead of having the higher res
audio on index is also great, as is the mic; reverb g2 piggy-backed off of the Index's audio for a reason
investing in an index now means you can upgrade down the road to a newer steamvr hmd as they come out and not have to replace the controllers/base stations you bought initially

>>418830123
okay :3

>>418831337
>>418831741
On eBay the Index and HP seem like roughly the same price, so I'll get the Index then. I generally prefer fps to resolution, and I don't think my poopy PC hardware would be able to power the HP resolution anyway.

>>418831993
the g2 has been on some crazy sales for like $300 before but that comes and goes

>>418830123
uwu yes daddy

>>418831993
And plus, it sounds like anything will be a huge step up from the HTC Vive I was used to.

>>418831993
you need the full kit

>>418832180
Ah yeah, Index is closer to $600 for the full kit, HP is like $400, but that's not a huge difference considering I can probably resell it for just as much if I get bored.

>>418831970
Stop

UwU

Let's go

>>418832962
>Quest's POOR is PC's EXCELLENT

roflmfao

>>418832962
wow finally lmao

>>418832962
it's been a long time coming

>>418832962
Thank you finally, when will this go live?

>>418832962
People cheer on these changes but the problem is that this just makes it harder to attach stuff like VRCLens to your avatar. Even though it's local-only and never loaded for other people, it still counts for 60MB in your VRAM stats
>Why don't we see people do interesting avatar things anymore??!?!?!
Well this is why.

>>418830230
Vive Pro 1 with wireless (and possibly Gear lens mod) is right up there IMO. Dunno about customer service as I never had a problem with mine.

>>418832962
w..... what the FUCK?????? this is fucking bullshit. fuck you i spent so much time on my avatar and now people arent even gonna see it???? 150mb is literally nothing, its fucking 2023 for christs sake. I bought a fucking 4080 because unlike the stupid poorfag optimization demanders I actually care about this game, and now I'm being told that I have LESS value than a bunch of poorfags who can't be bothered to invest in hardware for something they supposedly care about????

Fuck you. Fuck you tupper and your shitty fucking game. Keep catering to questies and "PC players" who are basically questies with their 5 year old GPUs. No wonder your game is dying.

>>418832962
I need an option to hide avatars purely based on vram usage. I don't care about just this because everyone is already very poor. I want a button that hides all avatars above 150mb of vram usage regardless of anything else.

At first I thought the limits were too low and then I read >>418833381 and I think they should be lowered further for the sake of everyone's performance :)

>>418833381

>>418696720
reminder that golf is happening in about 40 minutes! Moving it closer to 9 because 8:30 is a weird time and I'm running a little later

>>418833314
>Why don't we see people do interesting avatar things anymore??!?!?!

Because /vrg/ is nothing but uninspired, untalented hacks and people who already used up all their creative energy years ago

this change hasn't even happened yet and it's not like people are making interesting avatar things NOW.

Retard.

>>418833446
If we had the ability to customize our own rank limits I feel like this would be ideal.
Hide those 180MB niggas, but I'm not gonna cry and seethe because someone is 90k polygons.
>>418833693
Because performance ranks, the safety caste system and avatar hider already happened. I've felt less inclined to add interesting props to my avatar because I'm always up against that 16 material slot limit even if only 1 thing is active at a time.

>>418833693
So then show us what interesting things you made anon, or do you prefer calling people talentless from the sidelines instead

>>418833879
>I'm always up against that 16 material slot limit even if only 1 thing is active at a time.
death