/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1680

gay retard failed normalfags ruined vr

EU Assetto Corsa: European Racing club
Race 89

19:00 UTC 20:00 CET, 3rd of February 2025.

We're going back to the 90s to drive JGTC Nissan Skyline at Ebisu circuit. Short laps, plenty of speed, grip and power. Japanese perfection.

1 hour practice
12 minutes qualifiers
16 laps race

Afterwards, we go to Ebisu North, to drift some Beans86, stolen and cloned directly from Noriyaro.

Assetto - can be played with wheel, controller, or steam-vr-wheel addon, it doesn't matter, we will all have fun driving together. If you just bought Assetto - grab Assetto Corsa Content Manager - a better launcher and mod manager: https://assettocorsa.club/content-manager.html To install mods: just drag and drop zip files from mega onto the Content Manager windows and click on the hamburger menu on top right. Highly recommend installing stable custom shader patch and 7-zip plugin in Content manager.

For communication we'll use mumble at voice.vrg.party port 64738, as it doesn't need any registrations or logins.
https://www.mumble.info/

I can't recommend enough Crew Chief
https://thecrewchief.org/
He's a helpfull AI fellow in the pits who'll provide you information about your car, your opponents, yell at you or try to encourage you. And most importantly, he will spot for you, in case you have a car in you blind spot.

UI radar are immersion breaking and basically cheating, but this guy will tell you verbally if someone is there on your right. Download, install, select Assetto Corsa in game list, press "Start application" and it should work!

MODS: https://mega.nz/folder/Kvo1lRRR#rC2tH_iZRGph9Vnj6U8D5Q
(higashi fix included)

Threadly reminder that WRC club is back.

Currently running a 2 week event with H2 FWD at Monte Carlo. Event runs until the 29th, so you've got until Wednesday to get those runs in.
Usual admin got his issues with the game fixed (don't buy the DLC) and should be back to start up a championship when this event is over.

Game is here if you don't have it (wait for a sale):
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1849250/EA_SPORTS_WRC/

Club link is here if you're not already in it:
https://racenet.com/ea_sports_wrc/clubs/19481

>>511908679
unironically true
meta slurping up Oculus has basically ensured that VR will always be stunted in many ways
>visual fidelity
>compute power available
>control schemes
>etc.
we're stuck with the lowest common denominator forever now

>>511908161 (Cross-thread)
Go outside for 2 seconds and look at your lawn. You do have a lawn, right anon? The grass is still there.

>>511909536
I don't. It's all rocks.

>>511908679
And you are ruining the thread

>>511909536
All I see is snow. I tried touching it, but I don't think it worked.

>>511909364
VR is just being subsumed. XR headsets that blur the line between VR and tablets are the way forward now, and dedicated PCVR headsets are going to stay ultra niche like HOTAS and Racing Wheels.

>>511909150
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR

>>511909693
Stick your hand in the snow.

>>511909870
I just got bitten by something. Is it grass?

>>511908679

>>511910006
lets go have gay sex

>>511910113
relax coot

>>511909364
One look at flat gaming tells me we were fucked either way. Forced raytracing, assets built for temporal effects that don't work well in VR and relying on AI generation to get better framerates are becoming the norm. We'd have the same few simulators and performance heavy mods for flat games carering primarily to people with the highest end hardware while regular flat devs don't consider VR support remotely worthwhile.

>>511910797
>Forced raytracing
What if we add forced raytracing to vr?

>>511910935
10 fps, if youre lucky and have a 4090

Whoever will copypaste OP contents next time, please update boners
>Regularly Hosted
entry and change it from 18:00 UTC to 19:00 UTC

>>511911065
120hz easily actually. I experimented with it yesterday.

>>511911153
sure buddy, youre 1000 polygon room with ray tracking works well, but scale it up to an actual game ready scene at 3k or more per eye (since low res headsets are pointless, like the index or qpro)

BAIT BAIT BAIT
NONE OF YOU ARE FREE OF BAIT

>>511911424
How many polygons you want?
And 3k per eye is overkill.
It's technically feasible to do fully raytraced shadows in a fully dynamic scene (full TLAS/BLAS rebuild every frame) at 120hz 2.5k. Maybe higher if you lower the hmd refreshrate.

>>511911815
>And 3k per eye is overkill.
stop using a 5 year old headset and youll see that 3k is what a modern headset render resolution is.

>>511911996
Oh, I lied. Q2 native is 2.75k. I thought it was 2.5k for some reason.
3k definitely doable.

>>511911424
>>511911815
And polygon count is not a real issue too honestly.
Top end nvidia can push a lot.

I highly recommend crysis VR
Mod does a good enough job of delivering the crysis experience in VR. there's a lot that's not perfect but it's certainly functional

>>511911815
>And 3k per eye is overkill.
for 2.5k x 2.5k panels is just minimum needed with optical pre distortion correction profile. And that's what you nowadays get on reasonable enthusiast headsets like pimax or vive pro 2. We're gonna get mainstream headsets with 4k x 4k per eye panels this year maybe even.

>>511912715
"it's certainly functional" isn't exactly a glowing review.

Gameplay wise it's crysis
compressionlets might have trouble on the foliage but I dunno

120hz is 8.33ms
90hz is 11.11ms

Pixel perfect shadows for the full scene is definitely doable.

>>511912725
Pancake lenses don't need 1.4x compensation of fresnel.
Pimax/vive are a meme too.
Q3 "native" (1:1 pixel/display res) is what? 2.9? Sub 3k, I'm pretty sure.
I can't think of any other headset, bigmeme is 72hz, so it's easy as fuck. What else is there? Varjo which nobody cares about?

>>511912725
>mainstream headsets with 4k x 4k
4k is not doable without foveated. Even 5090 would struggle at proper refresh rate.
With foveated, it's easier than Q2.

>>511912879
What I meant is that the mod is functional at delivering the crysis experience in VR, which means that the implementation of the mod doesn't get in the way of you having fun with the game.
Crysis itself is actually pretty fun. It's beautiful too, it really aged well. I tested it out a little in flat just to make sure the game worked, and it honestly feels like I'm not allowed to look around. VR adds so much.

Deckard?

>>511913531
2 weeks away bro

>>511913146
>Q3 "native" (1:1 pixel/display res) is what? 2.9? Sub 3k, I'm pretty sure.
Airlink maxes out at 5408x2896, so 2704x2896 per eye. So most likely that's the native res.

It feels like more of a VR game than many actual vr games as the world is so interactive

>>511915252
Uohh cunny tot

Sign Language meet, we are very gaming today
https://vrch.at/vmpxd4c0

>>511913146
>Pancake lenses don't need 1.4x compensation of fresnel.
yea, they need more

>>511915327
kek good post anon

oldschool pixel perfect hard shadows vs new "more realistic" soft shadows
which do you prefer

>>511913146
>Pixel perfect shadows for the full scene is definitely doable.
Without temporal smearing which will be blurry as fuck in a headset which is always moving with head tremors?

which is better, halo straps or elite straps

>>511915713
nah, pancake distortion profile isn't as extreme

>>511915830
poorly implemented soft shadows < hard shadows < well implemented soft shadows

>>511915252
yet another VR game where you can bully crab

>>511915958
from what I've seen it's more extreme

>>511915713
>>511916083
I remember having an autistic argument about pancake not needing that high distortion compensation with an anon.
He was absolutely sure you don't need 1.4x, but he never provided source. But at the same time it kinda checks out with the official rendering res of q3 from facebook. The max res of airlink didn't increase by that much.
They were very deliberate with max res of q2, so most likely it's the same for q3.
But need real sources on that. Otherwise it's just talking out the ass.

>>511915896
native of course
temporal cancer doesn't work in vr (thank god)

>>511916020
>well implemented soft shadows
examples of well implemented soft shadows?
because I can't think of any.

>>511915830
oldschool every time

>>511915252
I with throwing wasn't to jank

>>511915923
unless you are hanging upside down, halo straps

>>511915252
I got shilled on succesfully.

>>511915830
"pixel perfect" shadows with a low resolution pre-baked lightmap. Looks "more realistic" and performs the best too.

>>511917495
no-one can resist the vr kani

>>511915830
hard shadows in a strongly illuminated world are peak aesthetic

>>511915923
Personal preference whether you want forehead or face pressure. Halo comes with some stability cost when shaking your head fast but it's negligible for the most part. Most important thing for either type of headstrap is to have a big cup at the back, the old halo designs without it were far less comfortable.

>>511917565
Limits scene to be fully static. And it can't really be that low res. It's going to be noticeable, especially in vr when it's right in your face.
You kinda only need ambient occlusion, but i think it's also doable real time, on hardware which can afford to ray trace hard shadows in the first place. And I'm talking about proper AO, not SSAO garbage.

>>511915252
>the installer doesn't work on loonix
why does it even need one just give me the files and let me drop them in

Theoretically speaking, if a vr game only supported nvidia gpu's how much seething there would be?
Or what if it performed significantly worse, aka not at the marketing midrange/midrange parity?
Would you hate it less compared to no support at all?

Golf+ in 5 minutes. Room VRGVRG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8sNoGaeeMc
look at this gem from /v/
the schizo is melting

>>511919742
>7 views
>aijeet slop
not your personal army faggot

>>511919913
?
it's just a funny

>>511918103
Gotta give the 2 click install for wintards

>>511915830
Static light sources give the artist better control over scene lighting so I'd prefer that, with the saved processing power from having the shadows baked you can do more with shadows for characters and other dynamic objects anyways
instead today we have the slop of compromise because minecraft has a day/night cycle so our game should too

>>511920235
It's a game not a movie, if stuff is not interactive what is the point?
And high-quality prebaked shadows are not cheap to store and also very annoying to produce.
And what kind of shadows are you talking about exactly, maybe you are just misunderstanding how things work.
Can you post an example?

>>511920642
alyx?

>>511915252
ui is very stereoincorrect for me.

>>511921734
Can you post a screenshot of what you think is a prebaked shadow in alyx.

>>511915592
Great signing today everyone
Some stats on favorite pokemon:
gen 1, 4 people
gen 2, 1 person
gen 3, 2 people
gen 7, 1 person
other, 1 person

>>511923296
>elon fan sighted

>>511911069
Made this ad for Bonelab for the train event so now that it's over (and I've remembered I never actually posted it) I can finally post it. Also there is a squidgame mod with their various games coming soon.

https://streamable.com/fqzioz

>>511925758
kek, nice

>>511925758
how's the experience if I know I'm going to get 150-250ms ping? never bothered with bonelab multiplayer because I uninstalled out of frustration when I finished the "campaign" and the mod barely worked back then.

How does UNO in 25 minutes sound?

>>511927365
I don't have UNO!

>>511927734
In VRC, silly

>>511927794
newfag

>>511925758
kino

>>511913652
>2704x2896 per eye
I think that's the ultra setting on virtual desktop or something close to that and godlike is 3000x3120 and you can really tell the difference in visual acuity between the two so the meta software is really playing it conservative here

>>511927365
i would but i already made other plans

in that regard however, in a few hours from this post maybe circa 7 or 8pm EST would anyone be interested in cards against humanity or catan?

>>511927734
YOU HAVE UNO, IT CAME FREE WITH YOUR VRCHAT

>>511926981
EU and US people play together and we're having tons of fun, but the outcome depends on your expectations. On one hand, this take on multiplayer sync is insane, EU can easily have a sword fight against an US person. On the other hand, the more people (and more high-ping people) join, the less stable game becomes, to the point where EUs were mostly going through boneworks port once half of the people got tired of screwing around in sandbox because taking 10+ people with high-ping guys included to a large, complicated world meant absolutely tragic performance and tons of issues.

Come over and see for yourself. It's less complicated to set it up than it seems like, and while it's love it or hate it, imo it's kind of a game that people should at very least experience once.

>>511912886
Some areas you can start seeing the foliage fuzzying but 99% of the time it's fine
My router isn't good enough for like ultra high bitrate wireless so I settle for 200mbps h265

>>511928169
Gay goblin fucks around with encoder settings too when you change presets, so it's not 100% fact.
Facebook was very deliberate with max res before.
Need further confirmations. Not sufficient right now to tell for sure.

>>511918103
Here you go bud
https://files.catbox.moe/fzmtyd.rar

>>511925758

>>511928561
Sweet, more dolphin porn!

>>511928534
Is there a way to check the encoder settings the preset uses?
I mean it's super easy to test between the resolutions anyway. I did it like 2yrs ago when playing ITR1 in the training range and the difference between the two was being able to get a sharp image of a target and the other was a soft blur with a vague red dot in the middle.

monkey fears the power glove

>>511928804
Pretty sure he doesn't expose them.

Do you have oculus shit installed right now?
Can you check what is the actual res there? Because my info is from before 120hz update, maybe they increased the max res.
But soft blur usually means sub 1:1 pixel/display ratio, so I dunno.

>>511926981
OCE play with the euros all the time. Physics calculations are done on the local machine of the last person to touch that particular object so there's no jank. It's really impressive. Webm related at 200 ping.

UNO is on now, come get 4-draw'd!

https://vrch.at/nfcbvye0

>>511929494
I put 9999 in the override encode resolution setting in occulus debug tool so that should be the highest
It's a really fucking low encode resolution. No wonder everyone goes for VD

>>511930217
Looking for one more player

>>511928169
>3000x3120
This is 1.42x display res. Maybe what anon was talking out of his ass after all. He argued about it for a long time with me though.

Anyway, which means
Q2: 15 megapixels
Q3: 19 megapixels
26% increase, which, coincidetly, is around the same as the increase in cuda cores from 4090 to 5090 (1.32).

We are going to stay under 20megapixels workload most likely, I don't think anyone will try to attempt higher res headsets without also adding eye.

>>511930889
Gay goblin is cheating a lot, in latency numbers etc.
USB link can look better than VD and have much lower latency too, you just need to set bitrate manually.
But the picture quality is not really limited by bitrate actually, but by chroma subsampling. I think q3 can push 800mbps if I remember correctly, up from q2's 500.
Though bitrate is not the bottleneck like I just said.

>>511931320
I really don't care if he cheats but godlike setting is unparalleled for visual clarity right now. I mean ALVR might be better if you can tweak everything yourself but I aint got the time for that.
Only thing I like about the meta software is the controller movement prediction, wired (duh) and able to push 800mbps in h264 and the customization of the distortion curvature to get higher pixel density in the center.

>>511931626
>and able to push 800mbps in h264
So it's actually 800mbps?
Do you see visual difference between 500 and 800? Because I wasn't really able to see anything between 400 and 500.

Okay one sec I'll get the nightmare goggles back on

>>511931854
I don't but the encoder/decoder can handle so I crank it up all the way up I can. I do have issues going up to 960 or whatever the software max is though.
I'd have to do some tests again but I honestly don't care enough. Besides I do not have a good way to capture an uncompressed lossless image in headset anyway in the first place.

>>511932123
>I don't but the encoder/decoder
Same for me. What's why I speculate that the main source of artifacts after 400 is actually chroma subsampling.
>I do have issues going up to 960 or whatever the software max is though.
What happens? Decoder starts dropping frames in the graph?

>>511931626
>>511931854
Max bitrate is 960, not 800.

>>511932754
800 is what q3 can actually handle.

>>511930217
I must have screwed up something, the link sends me to a new instance for some reason.

>>511932414
I don't remember exactly as it was a year ago but it's either encoding or decoding that takes a big hit and it's not worth it anymore. I don't know what kind of encoding profile they use in the meta software but up until 500mbps it's fucking nothing and the stats show rock solid 5/5/5 for encode/transmit/decode in the debug overlay.

>>511932817
Don't take my word for it and go try it yourself if you want to know the exact numbers. I use meta link like once every two months at best.

>>511932978
I never upgraded from q2 so I can't check myself.
W7+eye/face is the baseline for me, q3 didn't cut it.

Would someone mind reposting the Lamia prefab for the snake event? b4k looks to be down right now.

>>511902805 (Cross-thread)
Saaar we are people who live near the equator

Lamia? More like turdia.

>>511930217
BTFO

Draw instance up.
Join: https://vrch.at/9na60fr0

>>511928169
Doesn't it increase latency for encode/decode? A bit pointless if you can't see the difference in mbps.

>>511928215
if I'm awake sure

>>511937908
Sorry, meant for >>511932123

Thanks for joining! The draw 20 stack was a warcrime.

>>511932834
We had to change worlds to something more stable since the first one was bugging out. Sorry about that

>>511937908
Oh don't even start this shit, newfriend, you are going to summon the schizos again.
Short answer, no. Let's leave it at that.

>>511939825
Never post again.

>>511939825
how many milliseconds of latency is that
200+?

>>511940050
VRChat has like half a second voice, IK and udon messaging latency.

>>511940901
that's nothing to the 3 seconds of compressionlet delay

>>511941062
>leashcuck coping again

>>511937908
Yes it does

>>511941465
>source: your ass

>>511941713
Increasing resolution and/or bitrate obviously stresses the encoder/transmission/decoder pipeline more. Also it's in the experimental graph.

>>511928346
>EU can easily have a sword fight against an US person
I still have no idea how this is possible. It works even with Australians where there should be hundreds of milliseconds of delay.

>>511942021
If you even know about the graph, you are twice as retarded for saying that shit.

>>511939825
Zased

>>511942295
Play thrill of the fight 2.

>>511942295
/vrg/ fight club

>>511942438
punch nignogs in VR

>>511943447
fake out and punch niggers in vr

no excuses anymore

>>511944524
where

>>511944663
based on the lego and the shelving I'd say that's probably a toys r us if one is even still in business somewhere

>>511945106
walmart

>>511944524
Looks like it's returned, but still a good deal. Likely walmart based off of that sticker style.

>>511912715
>>511912886
>>511913517
18 years later, still kino

>>511912715
no physical reloading no download

lmao this got shared around again. Truly the meme of our time

>>511947970
thanks for your input mister non gamer

>>511939825
8k textures! Life like, vivid skin detail !

>>511945190
it was a 50/50
weird they put lego out with games there

>>511949042
2kNQ texture + 2kNQ normalmap + matcap, avatar under 90mb vram anon, not great but good enough

>>511937547
Thanks everyone for joining.
Very nice drawings, you can be proud of yourself!
And big thanks to our model.

>>511949989
It's a really well made skin. Is the secret the normalmap and matcap combo?

>>511950007
Cute activity. I love this new drawing club you anons are doing

>>511950007
Thanks for hosting, it's great fun

>>511909150
Good morning Saar a pleasant redeeem to you as well. May your wife do the needful later.

>>511950156
rimshade to make normal map more visible.
matcaps to add color and shine, rimshade without color adjactment looks too dark/pale it gives strong shadow similar to how rim light gives glow

>>511950247
Why not join us next time?

>>511950676
Glad you enjoed it.

>>511952006
peak ><

>>511952006
>Why not join us next time?
It's hosted on a time I can't go to while I am at work.
We did do some draw sessions before in the same map even. It's a good map for drawing

NA anime tonight at 10 pm est in vrchat
https://rentry.org/i3t5ozt8

Sakamoto Days 03
Sakamoto Days 04
Kunoichi NEET 03
Kunoichi NEET 04

link to instance will be dropped when it's up

>>511929385
kino

>>511929385
Are those custom player models for bonelab or is that vrc?

>>511953821
bonelabs with custom models

>>511953914
Thank you!

EURO TRUCK COUNTRY TIER LIST:

Good tier:
France
Belgium
because 90km trucking speed
too many toll tho

Nice tier:
Englando
very fast 97km speed but have to drive ont he wrong side
too much rain

Comfy tier:
Estonia
cool forest nice speed no cops

Meh tier:
Latvia and Lithuania
less speed and its just dumb

Horrible tier:
Germany
80km max speed
fucking retarded
too many cops
speedtraps everywhere

>>511955261
see you tomorrow

>>511955261
See you tomorrow.

>>511955261
You sound like the problem to be honest.
Best of luck.

>>511955261
>reddit blogpost about leaving
good riddance, I don't have much hope for this place but it's better without you in it

>>511955261
cya

>>511955261
Nice bait. You'd think anons would stop vague posting after years of this, it's become so incredibly boring and was at the start. If you were leaving, you'd actually say who you were. See you next weekend when you hit the bottle again.

>>511955261
take your (you) for the vague bait and come back tomorrow

sorry, error in judgement. You guys are correct.

>>511955438
>>511955464
This. I had a nice post typed up but somehow I glossed over the 4th line/paragraph and now I'm disgusted. Go fuck yourself vague posting retard.

>>511942438
>talking about it
kys

NTA, but it really shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that the /vrg/ events are full of cliques and dumb bullshit drama and go out of their way to be as unwelcoming as possible to new comers. If you are actually scared of quest kids joining your niche Tibetan finger painting message board meetups, you are delusional.

>>511956940
>go out of their way to be as unwelcoming as possible to new comers
slander, lies

>>511956940
How was the vault event cliquish in any way?

>>511948024
It’s all fun and games until you get 1000s of DMs from furries asking where they can purchase such a device.

>>511957549
Anon if you don't want to handle that 1000s of DM, send them my way. I'll be more than happy to supply them with the goods for a price.

>>511957340
blud sees people being friends and goes "SEE? CLICKS!"

>>511948024
the twitter engagement farm

>>511957340
vault is great since I got to see the various adventures of all the friend groups of /vrg/ I can't possibly join due to work or timezone reasons.
Everyone from /vrg/ can send pictures and that's exactly what we got. Happy memories from everyone of /vrg/ who were willing to share them

>>511956940
I never have this problem as one of the background characters. I'm surprised that I was even in some of the pictures, this means that I have failed to master the art of blending in the background without being seen.

>>511958006
Not that anon but I was surprised to see pics of me. I didn't send anything in, love you guys.

>>511958409
same. hell, somebody took a picture of me taking a picture of myself of a picture of myself and posted it here.

>>511958709
I think I missed that but it sounds incredibly based.

>>511958409
Same. Two (2) individual people posted my socially invisible ass in vault, and I cannot even put it into words how it absolutely made my week. Anons sure are a nice bunch.

Not appearing in a single picture in the first annual /vrg/ photo event was a bad experience and I haven't even looked at subsequent years as a result.

>>511959531
t.person who appeared in the second annual /vrg/ photo event

>>511959531
I made the mistake of wasting an hour of my day to go to vault and see I'm also in 0 pics. it is what it is man. not going to vault anymore

>>511959948
Guys, anyone can submit pictures. Why not send a picture of yourself? If you send pictures of others too it would make their day

imagine being so pathetic that you post pictures of yourself

>>511960251

these guys are 100% fucking im certain of it

>>511960758
They're elves, of course they are

>>511959531
>>511959948
i loved going to the vault map and then just seeing some of the anons that only show up for events or very rare occasions and realizing they arent in any of the photos as I finished up the vault
its not hard anon either take and submit photos or just show up to stuff

>>511959948
>>511959531
With that kind of attitude it's no wonder there were no pictures of you.

Speaking of the VAULT, an anon and a friend told me they'd prefer if we don't use the overlapping months system again and go back to the old one instead.

My issue with the old one was people get so spread out that you can't find anyone anymore. But it does guarantee that you are looking at the same picture without needing to bring out your menu.

As I see it it's a trade-off of socialization vs guarantee of accuracy.
What do you guys think?

>>511962631
I like the months system especially because you can change it with the menu. If we had indicators above our heads of which month we were on it would be fine.

>>511962631
Most people seemed only interested in sticking with their friends rather than switching between months on the fly. If a group was looking at a different month than you were, it's not like they were talking to you anyway. I think the old way using separate rooms is fine for that reason.

>>511962631
I personally switched months when I see a friend or group of people looking at a wall and I ask them what month they are in and I swap to then continue looking at the pics with them.

>>511962454
>i loved going to the vault map and then just seeing some of the anons that only show up for events or very rare occasions and realizing they arent in any of the photos as I finished up the vault
I figured they showed up to look at the pictures not caring.

>>511959531
Man that sucks. I know I'm in some pictures but I don't really play VRC and I didn't even join the vault event.

>>511962631
It's very hard to really share the experience with other people if all the people you mass are looking at different pictures

I wasn't in any photos but I know it's my fault for not showing up often. It's good motivation to go to meets more.

>>511963132
Form a group.

>>511939825
look look Gary, there I am

>>511963132
What I noticed is that people started forming groups that are on the same month. And then some stragglers who are alone tend to join the groups and ask what month they are in and then the group becomes bigger as they swap.

In the old system this wouldn't even happen and a straggler will almost be alone for the whole experience as they can't bump over easily to a group of people. This new system the big group loops over and bumps to each other as they go to the next month

>>511962631
i like the old system
you can always put in one of those teleporters that spawns you next to anyone you want like VKet does

>>511963198
>>511963438
yes the alternative is to form a group
then it actually is a clique thing because people who showed up are just stuck browsing alone

personally I much preferred running into whoever I ran into while browsing the images

>>511963198
I have no group, I'm part of /vrg/ but don't have a main core group of friends within it like most of yall do.

>>511963585
I meant form a group with anons you meet inside the instance.
>personally I much preferred running into whoever I ran into while browsing the images
Same.

>>511963495
>you can always put in one of those teleporters that spawns you next to anyone you want like Vket does
That's already in the map at the entrance. It's also not natural forming as you need to pick a name of someone you may not know yet or know if they are alone or with other people.

>>511963716
I wanted to but everyone was either in a group, or the other solo were moving so fast and not saying anything so it was hard to just butt in and say "hey can I look with you?"

>>511963716
>>511963585
>personally I much preferred running into whoever I ran into while browsing the images
Then the new system is better for that as the amount of "collisions" with other anon increases x15 and even more

>>511963836
I was part of the problem going a bit too fast. I did stop a lot though and also slow down. I'd especially stop if someone tried talking to me if I heard it.
>>511963857
Yes, I completely agree.

>>511963857
no because I don't want to jump ahead or go back in the middle of browsing

>>511963143
Pretty much how I felt. I was like "huh, only in a few pictures, I gotta get on more"

Just as a heads up:
Feedback for the Vault map is actually (as all Y events) performative and don't really change anything at all. Unless of course it was planned anyways. Then Y can say "See? I listen to feedback".

tl;dr
giving feedback to these events is useless

>>511964748
"Y didnt listen to my suggestion and im still mad"

>>511963857
>Then the new system is better for that as the amount of "collisions" with other anon increases x15 and even more
fake collisions that force you to leave and sync up, or remain looking at different content that just happens to someone else there

>>511964856
Feedback is often distorted to align with whatever Y intended to do from the start.

For example:

>>511963857
>I preferred running into whoever on the way.

>>511963857
>Then the new system is better.

The use of "I preferred" in the past tense clearly suggests that the previous system was favored. However, instead of acknowledging this as feedback, it gets reframed as confirmation that the new system is better.

Feedback shouldn't be filtered through a discussion-based lens. Either accept it as it is or stop asking for it. Shitpost as much as you want about it, but you know it s true and it's the biggest flaw of Y as a person.

>>511965029
>fake collisions that force you to leave and sync up
What if we do what this anon says >>511962717

https://streamable.com/1v6vka
comedy gold

Last year I was a few minutes late and ended up bumping into someone I don't usually chat with in one of the early months and we toured the whole thing together and had a nice time despite the fact that we don't usually associate.
This year I toured it with the same people I always hang out with because you had to make a deliberate effort to be on the same month as other people.

>>511965713
I laff'd

>>511965554
overcomplicating it. old way is better, that is just fucking system bloat at that point.

Sometimes I wonder how different this thread would be if names were mandatory.

>>511962631
I did not enjoy the new system. It lead to me either skipping half of the month to speed up my viewing, or me accidentally going to far with one or two anons. This lead to me not being sure where the rest of my group was, which lead to me finding them again but they were still in the last month, while I was thinking we were slower than the group.

It also has the sad side effect that the vault isn't as impressive anymore. It's just... what... 3 levels?

>>511965713
i played this last year and I dont remember this...

>>511935625
https://files.catbox.moe/yoxpor.zip

>>511966146
It's the "main story" mission with Kyle right after the second batch. Assuming you weren't actually playing JO instead.

mahjong time https://vrch.at/2x9tngs4

>>511958006
mfw the only pic of me was in the dark zone
I didnt really get truly active till October so I understand, its just hilarious to me.

My goal for this year is to get lots of group photos naturally
I have learned that I only take pictures of people solo 95% of the time. I want happy group photos and I just keep forgetting to take my camera out to capture the moment

Also when it next fumo event damnit?!

>>511966813
How do I play mahjong

Is there a better way to mount a tracker to my Q3 then velcro tape? There's a couple of 3D printed options I saw, but they look kinda jank and also cover up the slot on the headset which it uses for cooling.

>>511969173
I wonder if those double sided sticky nottape but the rubber feeling ones would work.

Anybody got a hair mega? I wanna comb it for twintails before buying one I like

>>511968424
https://youtu.be/2cr7Rn86E2s?si=BNLeJcArl0QJJXFg
9:10 to about 13:47 gives basic grasp of game

>>511966014
It would be a discord server.

>>511969316
Were you the one saying you wanted to steal my braids?

>>511966014
It owuld just devolve into discord or avatarfagging
Only time I avatarfag is the trash thread, and I must keep that behavior away from here

>>511966116
>which lead to me finding them again but they were still in the last month
Isn’t it fine to just then roll back your month to the previous and experience it again with them together?

As for impressiveness this vault actually has much more photos than last year. Last year was 12 levels for 12 months. This one had 3 levels per month

>>511969415
no that wasnt me. Im a relative newfag still. I wasnt in the vault long

>>511969684
This one was too. Hmm, okay.

>>511968023
We’re cooking it! Sometime middle of this year. FUM/o/ event that’s the anhle we’re taking for this year. Last year we did exploration and public raids. This year maybe a car/vehicle based fumo could be cool

>>511953327
>Kunoichi NEET
I watched ep1 and its fucking garbage
wtf are you guys on?

>>511969638
>Isn’t it fine to just then roll back your month to the previous and experience it again with them together?
Nah the old one felt better. You could just wander and not think about any menu shit.

>As for impressiveness this vault actually has much more photos than last year. Last year was 12 levels for 12 months. This one had 3 levels per month
So yeah. This time the vault only had 3 levels. And because of that it didn't feel as impressive as actually standing on the upper floor of the last month.
Thanks for agreeing.

>>511969782
im just a lil guy

>>511970138
Oh I haven't met you yet!

>>511965713
is he ok

>>511970231
ive been here since august, but only really started doing events in November. Its been really nice

>>511964856
once more example:

>>511966116
>did not enjoy

>>511969638
>discussion

Implying "user error" as the initial reaction when looking for feedback is a really bad habit, but can be seen every time when the performative questions for feedback pop up.

>>511970340
I'm glad that you're having fun! It really, really is.

>>511966813
2/4 new table 1 on way(tm)

>>511970138
BUBU!!
GET YOUR TWINTAILS

>>511964748
>>511970369
there's no point to engaging anon he will never change

>>511970543
Oh, maybe I did meet him for 10 seconds.

>>511970665
I know, it's just very disheartening to see that people will still suck him off

You're ready for twintail day, right?

Stop making everything into an event.

>>511967690
I've been doing this, the only thing is that im never in the group photos since positioning the camera and all of that other stuff is too flow and a lot of the times you miss the good moments like that.

>>511970120
>>511970369
>You could just wander and not think about any menu shit.
I HAVE AN IDEA
This would solve the issues of no menu shit. i’m drawing it in ms paint as soon as I can and posting it here soon

There seems to be a divide on wanting the smaller compact vault (to be able to see anons easily) vs the bigger spread out vault (exploration at your own pace)

>>511970476
What im surprised about is how much more well made and mature /vrg/ is compared to the more normie groups I was apart of before. Some people laugh when I say that but I mean it.
>>511970751
If it was yesterday, then I am sorry lol. I took a bit too much too early
>>511970543
im trying, need to find one that I wont hate texturing my gradient onto

>>511970987
yea im gonna have to be ok with just alright photos. I want to show I was there.
This isnt just an issue in vr. I climbed a mountain once and I only have a pic showing I was physically there

>>511971278
dont big maps solve this with a player list and teleport at spawn

>>511908527 (OP)
Introducing the Event Event!
An event all meet up at the same time at the same imageboard general thread and post at the same time!

It will be at 5am EST, January 30th, so dont be late!

>>511971301
The normie groups I've met don't work as well as /vrg/ either. It is kind of comical but there's still less drama here than the average normie gaming group.
>yesterday
It was actually 10 seconds I got spooked, sorry. It was the bar map. I think you or I said hi and I might have afked after.
Based gradient enjoyer, I do the same.

>>511970846
>>511970665
Please always engage. If I don’t see your opinion I won’t ever lnow to change. i’ve changed plans plenty due to anon feedback.
Some examples would be secret santa banning and the FBF cards being truncated

>>511971278
Man I really hope you are gone some day soon.

>>511971638
There I am, Gary!

>>511971650
oh okok. Im pretty talkative once I get going so anytime just say hi!

>>511971638
Can't wait for the no event event.

>>511971638
Someone make the NO EVENT EVENT AGAIN

>>511970846
I don't think anybody sucks him off. I think the most will you find are people who are generally appreciative that he's willing to put in work but I have never met anybody who is like, an ardent yuki fan who will actually defend his decision making.

Even the people who work with him on events will just say "uhh yeah he's a bit much we just kind of deal with him" if you ask.

So IMO there's not much of a point to digging in on his retardation because there is exactly one person in the target audience who really likes y, y himself, and he's pathologically incapable of changing so it's all kind of pointless.

>>511971837
I'll try! I'm nervous and quiet in any conversation at the start. It takes a bit for me to ramp up and then I'm a chatter box until I reset again.

>>511970865
Trying to decide between long and flowey, long and thin, or short and bundled. Im using a base shinano body

>>511971584
But that’s already what we did last year. I just want it to be a more social experience rather than a lonely trek. No one should feel left abandoned during the event

>>511971723
>Please always engage
I will not entertain your autistic version of a dialog that only a person with sever brain damage might hope to understand. Everything with you is a discussion about a discussion about a discussion. All while the content of the post was simply "I don't like XYZ".

Putting in reps for my wife on Saturday. Completely forgot I had this asset

>>511923296
I need to FUCK that clown

>>511923296
what does this sign mean?

>>511972906
Yeah and I want to solve you not liking the thing and modify or change it into something that you may like.

>>511970865
Always was

>>511953327
https://vrch.at/zn4namyu
anmie
>>511970000
the standards are very low this season, they're all garbage

you know what's worse than having no pictures of you in the vault? having pictures of vrg meetups but forgetting who most of the people are. all i recognize here is sava

>>511971278
BEHOLD. /vrg/ Vault 2025 idea

Central hub that people chill in and the memory rooms that you can go to but it reconnects you back into the central hub, every time you finish a wing.

This solves the desire of anon to have no menu needed and guarantees parity without going through a menu
But also solves my desire to have increased collisions and pickup groups with anon

What do you guys think?

>>511974242
the right one is zeldabro middle one is bote

>>511974242
fogwick behind the ukon

>>511974874
wtf didn't even notice him at first. He was blending in with the night

I miss seeing these two. never talked to them a lot but their avatars were fun

>>511974256
not bad

>>511975028
svenston still logs in but they're mostly pub hopping. I see them quite a lot

>>511975028
i miss nikei edits

>>511908527 (OP)
almost forgot my shill post

:: TWINTAIL DAY and groundhog day event | Saturday night Feb 1-2 at 11:11 pm ET ::

Come by on saturday night, put twintails on your avatar. There will be twins and tails, a group photograph, and an avatar judgement contest. Or you can also bring a groundhog or marmot if you choose.

Valentine's Coupler Dance doko???

>>511975035
thanks german anon. glad you like it

>>511268967 (Cross-thread)
:: CHINESE NEW YEAR - Year of the Snake - Dress up Event | February 1, 2025 ::

Celebrate Chinese new years with /vrg/ by becoming snek or just wearing a nice snake themed Chinese dress!

Ok here's the breakdown on how to get your basic Snek girl up and running:

1) DL this https://files.catbox.moe/yoxpor.zip (Lamia Tail) (Requires Modular Avatar installed)
2) DL this https://booth.pm/en/items/1633965 (Mesh Splitter)
3) Place the snek prefab insisde your avatar hierarchy (there is a scene under Sundae>Parts_Torso>-plain and it contains the prefabs) and scale it to size. DO NOT MOVE IT IN THE VERTICAL AXIS. Just scale it and use the blendshapes to surround your torso in a proper lamia way
4) Make Quad and position it on your avatar like >>508651980 (Cross-thread) cutting it just below the obvious spot to cut your avatar in twain. Place Quad in quad slot and body in body slot of Mesh splitter.
5) delete the bottom half of your avatar
6)???
7) SNEK STONKS

btw some extra note for the Chinese New Year dress up event. Not required to be LAMIA but preferrable.
You can be any creative snake you want to be or just a simple chinese dress with some snake theming on it.
Everyone of /vrg/ is welcome to witness the madmen and kings who became snek.

Time:
EU - 19:00 UTC
NA - 10:15 PM EST

https://streamable.com/hogksn

2019 VR Racing

>>511268967 (Cross-thread)
:: FRIEND BY FRIEND - /vrg/ Shuffler Event | February 15 ::
Relax and Celebrate Friendship with /vrg/~

5 minutes at a time with another anon in a room 1 on 1 while everyone gets shuffled round robin style until everyone in the room gets matched up.
Build NEW and OLD friendships alike celebrating holidays from various places and days with people you usually don't get to talk with. Celebrate good times, come on!
Theme: HOLIDAYS
Theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUlf7rEKb-A

Question/Action CARDS are available on the table in the middle for when you don't know what to talk about.
Click the DICE to spawn a random item to play with your match.

And as always, hope everyone have fun with each other and forge great friendships after the event!
Friend by Friend - SEA - 5PM GMT+8 February 15
Friend by Friend - EU - 19:00 UTC February 15
Friend by Friend - NA - 11:00PM EST February 15

5 matches > 1 group round > 5 matches > 1 group round > 5 matches > 1 game round > RECESS
then the cycle repeats

>>511976301
Oh man I remember racing with you on this one when buusta still hosted this

>>511976706
you wouldn't believe the trouble it took to get a hotas x working with this game

>>511976706
VR was taken out of the game, but you can add it back in

>>511974256
linking this to >>511970120 >>511966116 >>511970369 >>511964748
Please continue to give your thoughts so we can find the best solution where everyone is happy

>>511976517
26 straight hours of vr lets gooooo

>>511966813
2 tables still 3/4

>>511960758
who cares just let them be happy

Hi vrg what is the best place to buy lens inserts

I realized VR is so blurry because i need glasses with it since it simulates distance and i thought i didnt because it was right in front of my face

I have a Quest2 with the back battery and Anker charging system with some really good headphones with a built in mic that I've only touched twice. Should I bother doing VRChat, or should I just wait til I can afford to upgrade?

>>511978568
I heard good things from other anons using this https://vroptician.com/

>>511978771
depends, do you have a pc that it's connected to?

>>511978941
Thats the thing, im gonna be building a new PC, so I figured do i just keep what I have, or upgrade to something else after.

>>511979074
It's not as good as some others, but the q2 is perfectly serviceable as a headset especially when used with a pc instead of standalone.

>>511979237
Thank you for the honest answer. Ill stick with it for a long while after the new build til I hear about a Q4 or something. I seem to always be one behind on VR. I got the first one and 2 days later the Q2 got announced.

>>511978568
VROptician, VR Lens lab, VR-rock.
If you're on a Quest3, avoid Zenni. Their lens holders always crack.
You can also get some cheapo lenses off places like aliexpress, but they tend to be thicker and will cost you some FoV as you have to distance your face a bit to not get stabbed in the face.
That's honestly a problem with all of them.

>>511980673
>chinkshit prescriptions

>>511980673
NTA, I got Hons. Cheap and theres usually a promo code. The prescriptions accurate for the price.
They do sometimes slide out when moving headset but theres no good mounting space in quest 3.

>>511981649
> I want to pay $500 for my lenses for no reason

>>511982136
You trust chinamen far more than one should ever dare, by god

>>511982362
Again
>I want to pay $500 for my lenses for no reason
Protectionism enables grift, you're the sucker for falling for it.

explored Vket2 from way back in January 2019. seeing kizuna ai again was a real trip

>>511982362
>>511982590
niggers

>>511982590
hello chang
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>>511973607

>>511984081
yeah.would.

>>511973607
>the standards are very low this season, they're all garbage
Sentai Ranger Isekai and Ojiisan as Villainess is pretty good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPLc7a2SN6A

>>511984230
>transekai

>>511973607
thanmks for coming frens
see you on wednesday for more k-on s2, loli ice skating, and

>>511984081
is this a tiny kangaroo wtf is up with that tail it's so thicc

>>511986629
It's a bamboo dragon

>>511984039

>>511987210

>>511987210
fight me in totf2

VRchat talk, anyone remember the name of the japanese shrine where you could get a fortune about blender, unity, etc??

>>511989308
Why yes I do
World : くる年の寿ぎ-kotohogi-
Author : maro․

>>511990010
Thanks anon

>>511990010
oh shit I need to visit this world. my unity crashing luck has been shit lately and I need the kami to reset it

>>511988268
Delete this IMMEDIATELY you CRETIN

>>511991113
Kneel to your masters crab. Admit it, you lost!

Made a strawpoll for the VAULT feedback.
Please do tell what you think /vrg/
https://strawpoll.com/ajnE1AxXonW
https://strawpoll.com/ajnE1AxXonW

Any tips on physical health? I'm over 30 and all these years of playing vr are taking their tole. Long periods of standing are fucking up my knees. Swinging in boxing games is pretty rough on my triceps. Currently rumble is fucking up my right shoulder. Surely there are some good stretches or something that I can be doing to reduce fatigue and aches. I refuse to go to the coomer furfag fitness vrchat shit don't even bother suggesting that.

exfilzone?

>>511997553
Nope, you're fucked lmao.

>>511997553
work out nigga
VR works the joints and ligaments without building strength in the joints first

>>511997553
hit the gym nigga

>>511997553
>standing is fucking my knees
are you fat? unfat yourself if that's the case, easiest win of them all in terms of general well-being despite not being easy at all
>muscles and fatigue
Do any ordinary exercise of your choosing every now and then. Could be basic bitch pushups and squats every two days, could be cycling, could be jogging, could be anything that you think you can stay consistent with. It really doesn't take a whole lot to go from couch potato to a bare minimum functional being, you'll be surprised how much better you'll feel after just a couple months. No need to overthink it, nearly anything you'll choose to do will be the right choice.

>>511998973
I'm a skeleton but thanks for the advice. I'm sure I can start with like soup cans or something and just do reps.
>>511998093
Worth getting as a solo nigger?

>>511999345
>I'm a skeleton
>knees sad regardless
Aw shit, then let me correct myself: keep your knees in mind. No idea what's going on, but for a standardized 30 year old boomer, knees should not give up after standing for a while, so you might want to think twice before doing jogging and such. It's great fun to hurt your muscles, it's not so great to strain anything else in the process. Guess not 'nearly anything' will be the right choice, keep it safe

>>511925758
Nice I saw this during the vault. Love it

>>511992068
I didn't like having to ask my friends which month they were at when they were pointing to a photo

>>512000678
This, imo it's also an attempt of solving a problem that does not exist. People who want to do it socially will stay close to their guided museum tour, people who want to see photos will run around and only stop at stuff that interests them. It's not wrong to do it either way, and people enjoy it the way they prefer to enjoy it. Ordinary xbox huge world, or one with a center hall in the middle will make far more sense than constantly meeting someone and hearing "oh yeah no i can't see that"


effort remains appreciated though, dorky vault is still a good vault because it's a vault. no doubt I'll enjoy it a whole lot in a couple years.

>>511999345
>Worth getting as a solo nigger?
when it was just contractors showdown i had a blast during the beta. as soon as it launched the playercount was dead. dunno what its like now

good mahjonging mahjongers

>>511999345
>>512001060
It's still active enough to drop in, timezone dependent.
Group play is a lot of fun, especially if you can coordinate well together. But, playing solo I've never felt like there was a major disadvantage or teamed up on, could vary as I like to play very sneaky and loot goblin up. Would rec, you also get the standard BR mode which eh, free game.
Built on contractors so gunplay and physics are all robust, unique grenade throwing mechanic is cool.

>>512000678
>>512000973
Duly noted. Looks like I'll reform the vault for next year into a hub based one without the menu system

so i went to the vaultand holy crap, what a trainwreck. first off, the password written on the wall at spawn didn’t even work. I stood there like an idiot for an hour until some random finally gave me the real code. wway to make a first impression, organizers.

then i got in, it was just a giant clique fest. Everyone was in their little friend groups, and if you weren’t part of the “in-crowd,” you were basically invisible. I tried to join conversations, but it was like talking to a wall

The whole thing was a poorly organized mess that catered to the existing cliques. If you’re not already part of their little circle, don’t even bother. You’ll just end up feeling like a ghost in a virtual world. 0/10, never again.

>>512002810
sigh fine, here's one (You)

>>512002810
Please anon you know I can't resist bait. See red arrow

>>512002810
y'know I was gonna finish off my dinner just now but no, (You) can have the scraps

>>512002810
1488

>>512002916
>>512002953
>>512003335
the assumption that i'm just supposed to KNOW what thread it means is insane, unprofessional

>>512003423
rofl thanks anon

>>512003423
>>512002810
gave me a good chuckle, thanks for helping my morning start of with a smile anon. You deserve the (You)

Will be hosting world exploration focusing on Wednesday 5pmJST

Currently we have

https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_15125d95-b20a-4729-88db-5c5d0eeceed6/info

Any suggestions of game worlds are welcomed

Thanks anons

>>512004152
Hell yeahhh I'll be there!

>>512004152
Focusing on game worlds

Sorry classic retardo moment

>>511811083 (Cross-thread)
Rand Savage was in the vault?

God I hate UE5 so much it's unreal.

>>512008270
kek

Damn. I wish I knew Japanese. Most of the kino content in VRC has runes.

>>512008639

simguys are saying if you mod dlss4 into games it's looking pretty good in VR
I've only tried it in cyberpunk, flat so far but it was much more clear.
I'll have to try for myself before I believe some youtuber just saying it's crystal clear. Previous dlss in VR has been pretty bad

>>512008270
Neat that uevr works but I'll stick to the flat version. Fuck UE5.

>>512012079
Whats wrong with it with UEVR?

>>511991113
>>511988268
saved

>>512013241
I have to lower the settings so much it looks like total ass with shimmering glitter sprinkled over it. Also some of the HUD overlay stuff looks fucked up, but I could live with that.

>>512012079
Holy shit anon how do I get this to work? I'd love to try out TXR in VR

>>512013354
> it looks like total ass with shimmering glitter sprinkled over it

Ahhh, yes typical TAA pipeline. Same as WRC...

>>512015498
Temporal smearing looks bad in vr. It looks bad in flat too. Temporal smearing is just bad.

Unless they start taking tracking data onto consideration for pixel accumulation its never gonna be sharp. And even with that most likely its not gonna look good.

>>512001696
Just make it as the old ones, please.
There was no problem that needed to be fixed. Please for christ sake just use the old one.

>>512017952
>its never gonna be sharp
It's never going to be sharp period. What you are proposing is already a thing.

>>512018910
One day temporal smearing will be used in UV space or world space instead of screen space. At it will be more or less ok...

Just like all games having excessive bloom stopped having excessive bloom. Just like invention of normal maps made everything into shiny plastic for a time period. Hopefully one day overuse of time smearing will go away...

>>512019663
>One day temporal smearing will be used in UV space or world space instead of screen space.
It's better in decoupled rendering pipeline, because artifacts at least consistent but it's going hurt efficiency a lot. You would have to shade conservatively, so you can accumulate shading data even for shadels which are currently occluded or outside of the view frustum.
And switch to decoupled is also a massive engine redesign.

And even then smearing would be there, because of antialiasing.

tldr; it's not going to be ok

zuck fixed webm playback in the default quest browser, he browses the thread

>>512008639

>>512020302
I would gladly trade the tensor cores for more rasterisation cores...

>>512021243
I don't think this shit is up to scale, because obviously CU which can do fp32+int32 should be bigger than units which can only do fp32.
But right now it's kinda hard to utilize tensors with neural garbage like dlss, maybe it would be different if they also supported int16, but with only fp16 or int8, it's just, yeah.
I couldn't think of any proper work load for them right now.

But switch to what? Upgrade fp32 part into fp+int? Make the SM smaller and add more of them? VR will definitely benefit, but flatshit users are going to cry about efficiency, at low res 5090 is only 10% than 4090 already, but it has 30% more cores.

>>512021884
>with neural garbage like dlss
without*

>>511971723
>Some examples would be secret santa banning
Did that guy ever even get banned? Didn't everyone tell you to and you were still like haha no we can't do that to our fellow /vrg/ anon!

I still remember how hard you fought to get fucking Mamamad of all people included in secret santa despite everyone telling you it's a bad idea.

>>512022019
I would love the neural rendering techniques, if only they werent a part of temporal smearing, and stereoincorrect at that.

Maybe one day theyll stop being blurry...

>>512022497
>I would love the neural rendering techniques
Examples? I can't think of anything useful.
But maybe that because every time I realize the paper is about neural shit my enthusiasm to read it instantly evaporates. Literally pic related.

Anons is there a place where i can find paywalled avatars? I found an avatar i really like just got into VR, but i can't seem to find places to get the cool stuff.

https://payhip.com/b/Fktli
Any ideas?

>>512023964
If you want to use awful gumroad garbage like that at least don't pay for it. I realize that's what you're asking but it's terrible.
Anyway, if you wanna get similar content for free, try an avatar search world and search around. Try female names.

>>511931854
I saw a youtuber's comparison shot and 800 from 400 was a huge difference and bigger from 400 from 200 for some reason. Dont know how reliable that is, as that is a strange result

>>512024139
Do you remember the approximate scene complexity?
500 was more than enough for the full screen noise scene in my testing, so I'm kinda skeptical.

>payhip
What the fuck is that
>the actual model

Oh god what the fuck is that
Cease what you're doing immediately.
Search up the world "Avatar Museum" in VRC and grab an actual good looking avatar from there if you want something for free.
Then if you want to actually buy and customize an avatar go to https://booth.pm/en/browse/3D%20Characters

>>512023964
If you show up to here wearing that I will kick you.

>>512024345
it was a shot of your first spawn location in alyx, the balcony

>>512024536
where the artifacts were located?
what was the difference in 800?

>>512022775
Generating materials on the fly for dynamic game enviroments? Adding detail when you look up close. Neural texture compression...
Better AI agents and sandbox mission generation with narration, voice lines, interesting objectives, and whole locations? I dunno, anything but temporal smearing

>>512024095
I want to get them for free in no way would i pay for that shit.

>>512024880
It's not even worth it for free dude that model looks like abhorrent Second Life/IMVU trash.

>>512024679
>enerating materials on the fly for dynamic game enviroments? Adding detail when you look up close.
More hallucinating garbage which even less work from already lazy and retarded game devs? I can see this happening
>Better AI agents and sandbox mission generation with narration, voice lines, interesting objectives, and whole locations?
That's not happening.
>Neural texture compression
That's sounds kinda useful, yeah. I forgot about that. Need blackwell whitepaper so we can see the actual details, maybe it's not actually that good after all.
But then again, blackwell only, which looks like a skip gen so far.

>>512024939
I wanna see what it looks like in game. That's all.
>>512024460
Thank you for the suggestion anon. I really want to check avatars, i was wondering if there is any kemono like site for paywalled content.

Holy shit the crysis vr over wifi looks so ass.

>>512025479
Natural looking stuff like trees, rocks and sand have enough random pattern on them to make it hell for video compression.
Wouldn't be as bad if we could get headsets with wifi 7 and enough decode to handle like 2Gbit/s video

>>512025602
>2Gbit/s video
you don't need 2gbit, 500(ish)+4:4:4chroma should be more than enough.
chroma subsampling is what fucks the small details the most, it doesn't matter how much bandwidth your throw at it

>>512025817
It needs to be able to handle spikes. No way any chip doing 2Gb/s will be power efficient so keeping that sustained is just silly.

>>512025817
Chroma subsampling fucks color detail, but most of the nature detail is in luminance.

>>511999345
>I'm skeleton
I am skeleton too, but with more reason you have to workout because if you don't train your muscles NOW, they don't have enough strenght to hold your body, on the later run when you become older, bones are more propense to break or have injuries because the muscles didn't put any type of strain to them.
By workout doesn't mean start running 10k on your first day, but try slowly incorporating exercises

If there's any particular exercise you are looking for certain muscles / body parts, you can look this website: https://musclewiki.com/

>>511999345
Jogging is hard on the knees. You want to aim for putting strain on muscles and joints but not impact stress, if that makes sense.

>>512025479
whats your streaming settings with which program

>>512025902
Just set constant bitrate, then there is no spikes.
And just for the sake of the argument, q3 already does 800 easily, 2000 is not that far off, a couple of tech process shrinks or more die allocation for decode and we are there.
It's not going to help though. Need 4:4:4.

>>512026027
In theory.
In practice, no. Most visible artifacts come from chroma subsampling.
It's not about efficiency, it's about perception. Subsampling is the current bottleneck, we are not bandwidth limited.

>>512026324
100 megabits h264, pico connect. Its all blurry except of the object edges

>>512026419
People have low chroma resolution in the eyes though. Luma is perceived at way higher resolution. I dont think 4:4:4 is the panaceum

>>512026641
Actually test it. I know the theory myself, it doesn't work in practice though.
There are artifacts which are impossible to get rid of no matter the bandwidth. You just need full chrome.

Go test it yourself if you don't believe we.

>>512026808
>full chroma*

>>512024460
How do i remove the QR codes from "Avatar Museum" ones?

>>512027030
You pay money for the actual avatar on Booth.

>>512026808
But you, see these are not the annoying artifacts you get in nature scenes like crysis. Im crysis you get random, completely blured blotches of the screen. Not the minute detail, you need to pixel peep to notice.

>>512026808
Oh, and about the pic.
It's obvious that right pic looks "sharper" right?
And what I told you the right pic is 1/4 of the size of the left one, it just uses the full chroma.

>>512027481
At 100 you are obviously bandwidth limited. At 500 all artifacts come from chroma subsampling.
Why the fuck you run it at 100 in the first place, I have no idea. This is not what this discussion is about. I'm saying that you just don't need 2000 for proper quality.

>>512027747
>At 100 you are obviously bandwidth limited.

It is what it is

LETHAL COMPANY
1900 UTC
THIS WEDNESDAY

The company must profit!

Real VR Fishing, tonight, at 19:00 GMT.

>>512015498
Just plain UEVR "works" right away.

>>511975873
>german
what

Nvidia stocks just flew over my house!

>>512036975
Had this conversation yesterday. Feels good, man.

never cross vr gamers

>>512038394
I hope this jeet gets yeeted by an oncoming train.

>>512038574
why?

>>512038071
If this is the moment the AI bubble finally pops, it's going to be an absolute kino.

>>512023964
>>512024880
That shit is not even worth downloading for free, lmao.

>>512025421
>i was wondering if there is any kemono like site for paywalled content
Ok, I admit it. That was a good bait. I like kemono avatars, though.

>>512039627
"kemono" refereed to the site which hosts pirated patreon content, not the style of the avatars, dumbass
I parsed it that way first too.

>>512039858
kek, I'm fucking retarded. How did I not think about that?

Hi, Monday Chess + Mahjong will be at 21:00CET/20:00UTC (3h from now) as usual
Start times have been pushed back by 30min compared to summer time, because of the daylight savings the usual time was too late for our russian friends
As usual we will with 1h of chess followed by mahjong at 22:00CET/21:00UTC (~4h from now)

Also, register to the mahjong tournament!

The tourney will be "async" which means that your games will be announced in advance, and you will have 2 weeks to play them. At the end of the 2 weeks, depending on the phase, a certain amount of players will be eliminated.
Will you die first and get filtered, or will you rise to the top of the ranks and grab the winner title?

Register as a tournament player here: https://forms.gle/jTDXTjjfrwpv8xL66
Register as a reserve player here: https://forms.gle/eJXXntUvJqGD3GD39

>>512040710
*2h30 from now, 3h30 from now
sorry still sued to the old time when announcing

>>512039858
you guys are fucked in the head if you see a furry menace behind every post

>>512040936
>a furry menace behind every post
that's more likely than not actually
I bet there is a furry or a tranny behind 95% of the posts

>>512039259
nah, now not only giant businesses, but small ones can train and run AI using NVIDIA (tm) DIGITS(tm) supercomputer on your desk!!!

It's akin move from giant mainframes to PCs. EVERYONE WILL BUY AS MANY DIGITS AS THEY CAN. You need to be a complete idiot if you think nvidia won't profit on this.

Just think, chatgp o1 level of intelligence, but without any dataleaks, right on your desk, for a measly 6000 dollars.

>>512041481
crush it is, huh
it's about time for nvidia to get humbled again honestly, usually they release the best gpus during those moments
5000 really feels like a repeat of 2000 series.

>>512023964
if you really want ugly gum road models just go to vrmodels and pirate them
otherwise go to booth and get something that looks somewhat decent if you plan to join events and not get laughed at. hell you can find a myriad of booth stuff free too just from a small bit of searching

Ahaha, it never ends.

>>512039259
the AI bubble is going nowhere, they just had an extra $100 billion investment and a further $400 billion until the next president

>>512044404
Nah, bro. That shit works through hype, not sense, and china just killed the hype.

>>512044543
Killed? They just reinvigorated the hype.

>>512044689
>>512044543
rather see the money going to Israel go to AI instead
https://www.forbes.com/sites/garthfriesen/2025/01/23/trumps-ai-push-understanding-the-500-billion-stargate-initiative/

>>512044746
> going to Israel go to AI instead
The end recipients are the jews in both cases though.

>>512044874
right but its jews that will spend the money on US soil

>>512045124
lol
with jews, you lose

>>512045176
just remember it could be worse, jews arent the worst religion

>>512045396
no

>>512045475
yes, the worst is muslims. imagine how fucked america would be with a muslim president

>>512045396
>>512045578
No.

>>512045578
>imagine how fucked america would be with a muslim president
>homosexuals stoned
>women put in their place
Oh no, the horrors!

VR?

this isnt /pol/

nah, not VR

>>512045871
>>512045903
>>512045919
It's related to vr, because, you see, you use gpus to render vr games.
It's like picrew.

>>512046054
alright yuki lets get you to bed

AKHEM
SHALL I RAISE A TOAST
AKHEM

Me to yuki when I catch him rambling late

yuki is like the only nice one out of all you motherfuckers

>>512046874
settle down B

>>512046874
Yuki is a snake

>>512036975
Doesn't matter, you will never ever again get a reasonably priced graphics card, ever.

>>512047615
i bought a 4090 during my last dirty weekend in Thailand. for about $800. Didnt declare it at customs and they also didnt stop me.

>>512046874
Yuki is nice but it's a superficial kind of nice. He's completely unable to deal with difficult problems.

>discord drama
Can we go back to the jew discussion please.

>>512046874
i love yuki!!!!

>>511973176
"My heart goes out to you."

>>511997553
Swimming might be the best start to get fitter before going for "tougher" stuff (tougher on the joints, I mean). Track your calories (carbs, brotein, fat), chances are, your diet is fucked.

>>512050636
The final level and boss fight is bugged to shit so expect heavy frustration.
Game still holds up really well. Good VR mod and if it wasn't for the performances problems it'd be an instant recommendation.

>>512029270
Fishing cancelled due to someone peeing in the lake

>>512051331
Zucc lied, fish died.
On serious note - do not update to PTC 74.

>>512051331
This is why I don't like Mondays.

imagine updating

>>512051768
>PTC
lol

Pancakes, fresnel, or waffles?

>>512053608
waffles

>>512053608
fresnel, the psvr2 ones not anything else

armored enemies are such bullshit what the frick??

Does anyone here still play No Man's Sky in VR?

>>512053998
you're meant to buy AP ammo as soon as possible

>>512054082
noob mistakse
you only buy +P
AP is a meme if you do the math

>>512054225
Math won't save you from an armored enemy running to your face as it shrugs all of your bullets
+P isn't accessible early game

>>512054225
yeah right youre gonna get P+ round at security level two when you just start seeing those armored enemies

>>512054338
what?
I beat the game at realistic ironman, watch your tone when talking with me.
You only buy +P.

>>512054082
I ran out of money buying ammo. I have a single magazine of AP 9x18, and two reloads of 9x19 FMJ and I hope that's enough for the next mission

>>512054225
I'm not allowed to buy +P ammo or any kind of rifle until I complete more missions...

>>512053998
I really like this game, I'd like to try the new one in coop.
But the tides are a pain in the ass, clearing the same areas multiple times sucks.

>>512054515
sounds like a massive skill issue

>>512054949
that quote has ruined all gaming discussion forever

>bought inefficient damage:money ammo or weapons because damage values aren't shown in game? frankly that's a skill issue
>didn't bring multiple boxes of ammo because you didn't expect there to be fuck loads of enemies in a game based on a book with no shooting? skill issue
>didn't research in advance what kinds of enemies are in an area? skill issue
>didn't read the wiki to figure out that "armored" enemies are fully armored from head to toe and that it's % DR, and not some kind of penetration system? skill issue
>didn't watch a full playthrough with story analysis ahead of time to ensure your playthrough was optimal? skill issue
>actually playing the game yourself? skill issue

>>512054515
Catch as many shiny things as possible and sell them.

>>512040710
Chess up https://vrch.at/wkgz0g5x

>>512055795
My first playthrough was on realistic ironman and I went in completely blind.
Skill issue.

>>512055795
The game is extremely easy. There is literally no punishment for dying except time waste.

>>512054636
>clearing the same areas multiple times sucks
I've not played much of the sequel yet but one thing I wanted from the first game was more randomization on loot and enemy spawns, at least for a NG+ playthrough. The first game has a few randomizer mods and they make backtracking through old locations much more interesting because you never know exactly what you will find.

>>512058654
>zuck
not my problem

>>512058751
yeah, two more weeks, deckardsis

>>512058654
damn I knew I should have waited instead of buying a quest 3 last year

So xr2+ gen2 Q4 in october?

>>512059936
that'd be dumb since they're only now phasing out the q2 and 90% of games still look like shit

>>512056227
angel of ruina, what a gong show.

>>512059936
No, Asus is likely making the ROG HMD that will be QPro successor. Q4 probably won't come for another year at least.

>>512058871

>>512060569
3nm xr2 gen3 is realistic for october too honestly.
xr2+g2 is still at 4nm.

>>512059936
October next year. Q2 to 3 was a 3 year gap, I think we're in for another 3 year gap and Quest developers have been vocal about not wanting hardwave iterations too fast. That would also put Meta in position to steal any good features from this years AVP copycats. That leaves a nice gap for the Asus headset, which would kill third party interest if Meta immediately undercut with a Quest 4.

when are we getting xr3, maybe it will actually decode fast enough then

>>512060978
>Q2 to 3 was a 3 year gap
And Q1 to Q2 was 1.5. we can't be sure about the cycle yet.
> Quest developers have been vocal about not wanting hardwave iterations too fast.
They can shut the fuck up. I need wifi 7 and eye/face.

>>512061137
we are already decoding fast enough, dumbass
it's not the problem
and xr3 is not happening, they go with annoying names instead

>>512061314
when then when are getting the xr2+ gen 2 Elite?
qualcomm have much better Oryon cores now instead of off-the-shelf ARM shit

>>512061506
>qualcomm have much better Oryon cores now instead of off-the-shelf ARM shit
elaborate, i don't really follow arm shit

>>512061506
it's fucking nuts whats qualcomm is doing in the past few years
i don't understand how they can get some many tflops of performance out of those damn 20 watt chips

>>512061718
I mean, by having no drivers?
hardware is easy

>>512061617
basically qualcomm finally designed their own cpu cores, instead of just buying pre-designed ARM Cortex cores, and theyre much better. its pretty much the only reason they even bothered to make those windows on ARM laptops.

well, we've all been doing a lot of karaoke instances, so what if we had a talent show kind of event for that?

>>512061960
fuck off, retard, we are busy with actual vr discussion

>>512061960
already exists

>>512061960
Hello newfriend, we have idol festival every summer where people perform on stage.

>>512040710
mahjong https://vrch.at/09zz78rt

>>512054515
Yeah the first armored enemy mission intros you to armored enemies without giving you the tools to kill them. Use rifles.

>>512062485
Gay
>>512056227
Less gay

>>512062453
god forbid anybody besides Y does an event

>>512062453
>>512062046
>sorry anon, someone else already had that idea so you're not allowed to host your own
the oldfag circlejerk is too fucking strong here

>>512061960
>talent show
Okay who's judging
>>512063169
>oldfag circlejerk
ah, I see, masterfully crafted sir

PSA:

Please run all event suggestions by Yuki before going ahead with them
Any events ran without the SOS logo are NOT offical /vrg/ events!

>>512063162
>>512063169
The idol contest isn't run by YN and never was. It's one of the few regular events that isn't.

>>512063297
Roger that, anon!
Let's make Y sanctioned happy memories

>>512059936

>>512063474
2 more years

can the seamonkey/anti-seamonkey circlejerks post anything other than highschool-tier drama? I don't think so
shitting the thread up every single day

>>512063297
Yuki has never once said this. Even just looking at the next few weeks, the snake event, the twintails event, and the 3D scanned event are all not run by Yuki or by SOS.

>>512063697
Snake is SOS though

>>512063697
all 3 are endorsed and approved by Yuki

>>512063764
If it was, the SOS logo would be on the poster. No way YN would ever forget to do that.

NOT VR
O
T

V
R

GOOOOKS INCOOOMMMING

>>512063697
>Yuki has never once said this
Yuki absolutely has said this. Not out in the open, sure, but if you've been around his VRChat circles or his Discord, you'd know. He just wants everything to be polished, coordinated, and actually worth showing up to. You can act like that's some big evil scheme, but at the end of the day, it means better events for everyone. Not half-baked garbage thrown together last minute. But yeah, keep telling yourself he never said it.

vrc "events" are garbage garbage for failed normalfags
refute this

>>512064459
The basic events encourage OC even if it's just a new world and a custom themed avatar outfit.
The more complex events like secret santa or the idol contest encourage even higher levels of OC you won't find in almost any other general on this board.

>>512064094
this experience was super mega ultra kino and i want to do it again.

>>512064094
Mapmaker didn't even try lol. Just a bomb spot on a random tree in a forest. Couldn't even bother to put some ammo boxes around it.

>>512064959
You are not producing anything of real value though.
It's just high-school dress up.

>>512065152
The same applies to any other general on this board.

>>512065152
>You are not producing anything of real value though.
fun memories are of real value, at least to me.
I don't have much else to be honest

>>512064459
vrc players: create actual OC that often involves coding and creating art
you: seethes about imaginary trannies all day

>>512065137
very important tree
please understand

>>512065152
If your definition of "real value" is that strict I think you're looking for >>>/diy/ and not a virtual reality general thread.
>>512065326
Good memories are the best OC of all, and those here who don't get that are in for a rude awakening later in life.

>>512065339
you are just wasting your time on trash
and even then its 99.99% of pointless drama and + 0.01% of "OC", even quality aside

>>512065645
Why are you so desperate to convince others that the way they have fun is wrong?

Fishing postponed to Wednesday 19:00 GMT, thanks again Zucc.

>>512065083
agree, we NEED to play push regularly

VR content
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY1SS5lUi0M

>>512064094
Do NOT bomb the tree. GI, go home! Your helicopters fall from the sky like broken birds!

My first vr screenshot...

>>512065950
GI! YUOR GOVENMENT HAZ ABANDONED YOU!

>>512065832
Yakub looking fish.

>>512065560
You're responding to a failed normie here >>512065152
Anyone who only sees value in monies has completely failed as a human being and fallen completely for one of the worst and most jewish pitfalls.

>>512064094
I want to play push with vrg!

Cheat sheet to flying the heli

it bothers me how a game from 2007 is now one of the best looking vr games

>>512065950
GO HOME GI
NIXON NO RUV YOU NO MORE

>>512066318
that looks like shit

>>512065787
just hate failed normalfags like you but love vr
maybe it's for a little chance that some anons will realize their normalfaggy ways and change.

>>512066170
Who cares about money? You are supporting the platform which pushes furries and trannies in ads. Instead of building something not gay and retarded. But maybe that's just impossible for you.
also
>normie
kill yourself

>>512065787
Misery loves company

>>512065880
I want to reshoot this but with vrg
https://streamable.com/taqz42

>>512066456
Looks better in person

>>511908527 (OP)
So I wanna get back into VR with my vive headset but i don't have a headstrap and i don't wanna go into my closet to look for all the wires, what exactly do I need to get my headset up and running? Would love if someone could give me amazon links for all the stuff I need.

>>512065912
Not so different from most poster from this thread huh.

>>512066859
you'll need a replacement strap and all the wires

>>512066859
Go into your closet, dummy.

>>512066859
i would just buy a new headset but I don't feel like spending $1,000 and I hate the quest 3.
>>512066961
yes i know but i don't know what wires i need.
>>512066965
its a huge pain in the ass, i just would rather reorder the wires.

>512066559
oh did I strike a chord there faggot lmaoo
you don't even play vr games you just sit in this thread and whine about vrchat
why don't you go back to living off the money your mommy left you with and try to enjoy your waste of a life on earth you failed normie

>>512066859
you really wanna spend $300 on new lighthouses instead of just digging them out of your closet?

>>512067152
my lighthouse is still up, i don't need a new lighthouse, just need the wires.

>>512067109
>its a huge pain in the ass, i just would rather reorder the wires.
Find your linkbox. Also the cables are good, go grab them.

>>512067124
you ok, sis?

>>512067319
it really is just a huge pain in the ass. I would just much rather buy new wires and a new linkbox.

Play PUSH on Pavlov!
https://streamable.com/x27k4g

>>512067503
>new linkbox
>He doesn't know

>>512067581
yea i just seen the price, i guess i'll go into my closet, but imma wait til after i get the new headstrap.

Play MORE push!
https://streamable.com/vn1q9c

>>512067503
anon...the Vive is no more

wtf something is weird with my game

how can you fuck up your ue slop so badly

>>512024139
>>512024647
sorry had to go to work

this was the video

https://youtu.be/h8vc5Fo70B0&t=175

>>512067757
>automatic weapons

>>512067752
Do it now so you're not scrambling last minute in case you want to play a game with the thread. Or do it whenever you have some time. Back when I had a vive I had my linkbox attached to my desk with the sticky pad the linkbox came with. Maybe look into a wireless headset so you don't lose your cables next time you take a break from vr.
>>512067757
>anon...the Vive is no more
This. Also he'd have to use 3 cables coming from his headset instead of the 3-in-one vive cable.

>>512068237
He compares apples to oranges.
I don't see 500 link vs 800 link.

>>512025602
Wouldnt foveated encoding trivialize any bitrate. I've gotten to realize that unless you are looking dead on at a particular spot, it can look like shit and you wouldn't notice.

>>512068269
until i get the headstrap, which won't arrive til feb 5th, it doesn't matter. I also need another controller and i'm deciding if I should just buy 2 valve index controllers or just buy a new Vive wand. One 1 hand I hate how the index controller feels around my hand, but on the other they'd be new controllers. I don't really know what to do.

>>512068567
at that point just cope and get a quest or splurge on indecks

>>512068640
problem is if I get an index, I also need to buy lens inserts which is gonna cost another $300 on top of the index, I had a quest 3, didn't like it.

>>512068458
you can run low bitrate with foveation but the edges do have a bi tof pixelation that can be noticed in your periphery
also the center still needs enough bitrate to not look like shit and be high enough resolution anyway
also running the whole screen at high res will still hurt since you're not foveating any of the rendering but just the encoding

>>512068237
>the other thing they lie about is their latency numbers
Oh, sweet summer child, how little did he know.
Link numbers are actually much closer to reality, as proven by camera tests.

>>512068567
Do like >>512068640 said and save up for a new headset.
>>512068737
Get prescription eye contacts!

>>512068737
lenses dont cost $300
https://www.vr-wave.store/products/valve-index-prescription-lenses

>>512068267
Sorry, that was peace day where we had the healing UMP

WW2
https://streamable.com/yv49g0
https://streamable.com/n3lkq7

More WW2
https://streamable.com/fjorun

Playing dead
https://streamable.com/pfm2sk

>>512063474
Deckard will come this year then quest 4 will come out next year and demolish it just like last time