/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1687

>>513697771 (Cross-thread)
>>513695697 (Cross-thread)
Theres been some talk in the thread and in some instances of reviving the NA saturday movie night the last few weeks. given this event is now at 8:30pm est, would this weekend be a good time for a 10pm est movie revival? saturdays these days are usually dead so my ideal time would be 9pm est but since we're in event hell with 3d, fbf, monster etc im tired of putting it off to not collide with events while still having absolutely shit saturdays until 2am

anyways the tldr is: is it bad taste to host a mohie 1.5 hours after the start of this or just wait another week?

>>513771810 (OP)
Thanks for the bake anon

>>513772141
Wait another week imo

>>513772316
2 more weeks...

Be ready for brutalist valentine

>>513773193
Is this a couples only thing? Poster is kinda obtuse about that.

>>513773909
t. no fent

>>513773909
Your only love in life should be fent

>>513774179
My only love is my wife P...

>>513771810 (OP)
:: FRIEND BY FRIEND - /vrg/ Shuffler Event | February 15 ::
Relax and Celebrate Friendship with /vrg/~

5 minutes at a time with another anon in a room 1 on 1 while everyone gets shuffled round robin style until everyone in the room gets matched up.
Build NEW and OLD friendships alike celebrating holidays from various places and days with people you usually don't get to talk with. Celebrate good times, come on!
Theme: HOLIDAYS
Theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUlf7rEKb-A

Question/Action CARDS are available on the table in the middle for when you don't know what to talk about.
Click the DICE to spawn a random item to play with your match.

And as always, hope everyone have fun with each other and forge great friendships after the event!
Friend by Friend - SEA - 5PM GMT+8 February 15
Friend by Friend - EU - 19:00 UTC February 15
Friend by Friend - NA - 11:00PM EST February 15

5 matches > 1 group round > 5 matches > 1 group round > 5 matches > 1 game round > RECESS
then the cycle repeats

Current Hosts and Jannies

FBF Hosts:
NA - CupcakeBomber
EU - Phyxa, 0cake
SEA - fanisk

FBF Jannies:
NA - alpha-core, Kurisusip (aka Mozz)
EU - Tsuseki, Karkeys
SEA -

Please add the hosts as friends to easily join on them! But they will also place a world link here on the thread.

Also still looking for 1 NA host and 1 SEA janny!
Thank you for your service

NA - Host (1/2 slots filled)
EU - Host (2/2 slots filled)
SEA - Host (1/1 slots filled)

NA - Janny (2/2 slots filled)
EU - Janny (2/2 slots filled)
SEA - Janny (0/1 slots filled)

>>513773909
You can always feed Maxwell to get him to like you, then you can dance with him.

tfw no maxwell vrfu

Register to the mahjong tournament!

The tourney will be "async" which means that your games will be announced in advance, and you will have 2 weeks to play them. At the end of the 2 weeks, depending on the phase, a certain amount of players will be eliminated.
Will you die first and get filtered, or will you rise to the top of the ranks and grab the winner title?

Register as a tournament player here: https://forms.gle/jTDXTjjfrwpv8xL66
Register as a reserve player here: https://forms.gle/eJXXntUvJqGD3GD39

>>513772141
I think it would be fine. There's practically an event every week these days, you can't be so gentle or you'll never end up doing it

The very first event of a new WRC championship ends tomorrow!

Poland, Latvia, Sardegna, Greece, Estonia. WRC2 class, events are spaced two weeks each.
>I have no DLC
50% off now!
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3128480/EA_SPORTS_WRC_24_Season_Expansion_Bundle/

Join!
https://racenet.com/ea_sports_wrc/clubs/19481

Hi, Monday Chess + Mahjong will be at 21:00CET/20:00UTC (2h30 from now) as usual
Start times have been pushed back by 30min compared to summer time, because of the daylight savings the usual time was too late for our russian friends
As usual we will with 1h of chess followed by mahjong at 22:00CET/21:00UTC (~3h30 from now)

>>513786080
eh, the purpose is half revival (im going to try to contact M soon to see if he can update the old drive in theater), and half filling the god awful void of Saturdays that is plaguing both EU and NA these days
clamoring on right after an event defeats one of those purposes, so im ok with waiting a week
this is not to say however that anyone else cant do it, tis merely just my intentions and id support any other anon to do it otherwise since i see a problem with cramming a movie right after a costume event
maydesu ill think more on it since im probably overthinking it anyways as i always do

Will there be fishing today?

EU Assetto Corsa: European Racing club
Race 90

19:00 UTC 20:00 CET, 17th of February 2025.

GERMAN DAY. First, Audi TT in Nurgburgring. Fast, classic, but also, front wheel drive, beware! Has a funny trick up it's sleeve - turbo button! Read the picrelated.

1 hour practice
12 minutes qualifiers
7 laps race

Afterwards, we go to explore Bavaria!

Assetto - can be played with wheel, controller, or steam-vr-wheel addon, it doesn't matter, we will all have fun driving together. If you just bought Assetto - grab Assetto Corsa Content Manager - a better launcher and mod manager: https://assettocorsa.club/content-manager.html To install mods: just drag and drop zip files from mega onto the Content Manager windows and click on the hamburger menu on top right. Highly recommend installing stable custom shader patch and 7-zip plugin in Content manager.

For communication we'll use mumble at voice.vrg.party port 64738, as it doesn't need any registrations or logins.
https://www.mumble.info/

I can't recommend enough Crew Chief
https://thecrewchief.org/
He's a helpfull AI fellow in the pits who'll provide you information about your car, your opponents, yell at you or try to encourage you. And most importantly, he will spot for you, in case you have a car in you blind spot.

UI radar are immersion breaking and basically cheating, but this guy will tell you verbally if someone is there on your right. Download, install, select Assetto Corsa in game list, press "Start application" and it should work!

MODS: https://mega.nz/folder/SzhSGa4Z#h9EvVZeuHvGpJg-H5-uuyg

LETS GET READY TO RUMBLE

>>513790941
damn nature
you scary

>>513790941
Imma be late if there is.

hows psvr2 on pc
have a quest 2 rn and want to upgrade to a dp supported headset

>>513794826
Good headset. Good price.
Completely unusable because the cable is proprietary and sony doesn't offer spares so you can't replace the cable.
(It is NOT USB-C double sided.)

Current best DP supported headset:


I recommend instead getting a quest 3 and a nice 6E router so you can get up to 300Mbs

>>513790941
Fish delayed to 20:00 GMT.

>>513795108
what about latency
how long is the proprietary cable is there a way to extend it etc

>>513796517
Good enough to top pavlov scoreboard but not good enough to play rythm games wireless.

>>513796628
All headsets are good enough for the Pavlov scoreboard since Dave fixed it.
Top of the scoreboard, thats native SteamVR territory.

>>513796809
Hehe you wish.

I'm gonna play pavlov tomorrow wireless and I swear if you niggers baited me you gonna get it

>>513771810 (OP)
>nice anime girls having a fun time
>one burning in hell getting torn to pieces
is bottom left anon okay?

>>513796517
latency depends but with a good router it's low.

>>513796628
in ms
i get around 38ms wired for quest 2 at my lowest settings

>>513798295
most of the latency comes from the encoding

>>513797898
I play at 200+ms ping so an extra 40ms input latency doesn't alter my chances.

>>513798553
the primary latency bottleneck tends to be decoding on the XR2 chip's side of things

>>513796517
Bad latency on quest is a fucking meme created by retarded niggers and later propagated by clueless redditors.
With usb cable at 120hz, the latency is better than most wired headsets. We've tested it empirically.

>>513798553
>>513798993
Wrong, stupid newfags.

>>513799745
Who you're trying to trick with your pretty trolling?

>better than most wired headsets
oh so not the index, ok

>>513800085
Lurk more, retard. Not spoonfeeding retarded gorilla nigger tourists.

>>513798132
happy amateur drawfags who want to draw a cute anime girl vs a pro who's stuck in an endless cycle of learning how to improve his drawings, being unsatisfied because he's lacking something, finally figuring it out in practice, and then learning a new way to improve his drawings only to keep hating himself for lacking something

Or at least such is my interpretation of this art piece, it's a warning. You're alright, don't come to drawfag instances on sundays.

>>513800085
don't worry about it I'll never produce evidence I'll just increasingly call you stupid and refuse to elaborate

>>513800219
Go do something productive instead of trying to fucking win some shitty internet argument.

i just noticed the latency difference desu
cant notice that with an index or beyond

Payday 2 VR time, update all your mods, were not doing big lobby today.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2607138973
Then come steam group for VC, Heisters, let's get heisting!

>>513800341
There is no argument. You are talking out of your ass, we wrote an openxr app, recorded high fps videos on camera and literally counted frames.
Basically, kill yourself, you retarded piece of shit newfag. It's 10000 years too early for you to talk.

>>513794826
The biggest issue. PCVR headset cables are consumables and sony, in their infinite wisdom, made the cable have proprietary connector on HMD side, made it non user replaceable, and don't sell replacements.

>>513799745
lmao absolutely wrong i bet you think the human eye can only see 24 fps

(preferably standalone) games with a similar feel?

>>513800645
retard even i notice the latency between running a game native and through link

>>513794826
i love mine, OLED is amazing, fantastic lenses, great comfort. BUT tracking is pretty shitty, and cable issues with no replaceable cable is frustrating

>>513800645
ah yes, the one openxr app which talks to oculus link usb openxr runtime and has no useable features has low latency, but all other realistic use cases show 80 - 100 ms latency with good bitrate, and only got down to 50 with low resolution and low bitrate.

>>513801402
...

>>513801402
forgot to post the image

>non-replaceable cable
Leashcucks can't be serious with this one can they?

>>513801172
damn peak snoyery right there is the cable at least long

>513801450
Stupid people like you can believe in anything. Go buy $2k audiophile cables.

>>513801536
We know for a fact it's not the encoder. 60ms+ results are just user error, plain and simple, which most likely came from people who shoved minion router up their ass or something. Well, you can argue that it's representative of the average vrc user, but I digress.

>>513801756
>wireless shill
fucking projection in that image right there

>>513802113
kys retard

Yknow what i'd like to do
I think we did this some time ago, or something like it. it's definitely something that pops up now and then.

I'm late for December/January, vault etc etc but i'd like to do a vintage avatar event.

Like, remake your og avatar(s) or og theme. Something like that. And then check out old vrchat maps that used to be common hangouts that no longer are. (ideally beyond just gaia night and void club)

thoughts?

>kys retard!

I just had to replace my index cable because it shat itself after 5 months. I kind of want to go wireless but I'm still waiting for a quest 4 or deckard. Worth it to change now?

>>513802708
neither quest 4 or deckard are releasing this year

>>513802708
deckard announcement is coming in approx 2 weeks

>>513802708
2 more, ah umm... yeah its just 2 umm

>>513802708
5 months is way shorter than it should last; get that RMAd

>>513802113
>user error across many setups and users
KYS

>"many setups and users!"
>sample size: 3

>>513802708
foliage will make everything blurry at any low latency bandwith, keep that in mind

If you are retarded, just get a wired headset. Wireless is for high IQ anons only.

>>513803386
5 users, and a few of them tested different setups and OSes

Day #3721 of two guys arguing about 15ms of cable latency but at least nobody talked about vrchat

>>513802769
Im trying to hold out for the rtx 6000s gen and upgrade all at once

>>513803648
You don't get 2x the latency over the optimal setup without user error. You just don't.

>>513803881
your small latency is only in one unrealistic application over a connection method novody uses, but which was worked on by Carmack.

You refuse to do the test which everyone else performed due to stupid reasons. Your custom app over oculus link demostrates the best possible theoretical capability, but it's not the reality of VR useage.

>>513803870
2 more years then, RTX 60 series in 2027
28 months between 4090 and 5090
24 months between 3090 and 4090

>>513801620
Compund, GZDoom from Team Beef (and other TB ports), Burst, Battle Sister, Lies Beneath, Death Horizon
That's it for classic Doom-likes on Quest. Starship Troopers if you want coop.

>>513804160
Virtual Desktop result was there too.
You still can't explain how the fuck their setups get 80ms on plain gray screen on extremely low bitrate and rendering res.

>>513799745

>wigig chads laughing at wifi cucks until his 20000 mah battery dies after 2 hours.

>>513798132
>>513800308
that woman drew many drawings during the instance, that's just one of them

>>513804426
>s get 80ms on plain gray screen on extremely low bitrate and rendering res.
stop talking out of your ass. The proper realistic test never had a gray screen. And 80 ms is for proper resolution and bitrates between 150-300. You are not even trying to argue in good faith.

>>513802708
Quest 4 is probably a year and a half away. Deckard who the fuck knows.
If you're not the type to sell your old headsets I'd try to hold on with the Index. No point buying a Quest, being outdated within 2 years and not selling it. Normally headsets don't exactly become obselete or outdated but if eye tracking is the next standard in VR you'll probably want it.

>>513804978
Post the graph again.
I remember clearly noiseless results having retarded latency on one of the garbage setups.

>>513798132

>>513805146

>>513805146
anyway, you can cope as you like with your user errors, until you do the realistic test like everyone else, your opinion is invalid. Yes, you've shown thoeretical best, good job, but that's not the reality.

Not arguing in good faith, my ass.
Explain this bullshit without user error, you can't.

>>513790127
chess up! https://vrch.at/qf6uvp64

>>513806068
That guy has a proper VR/WiFi setup, it's not a user error. Quest Pro is using old shitty XR2 version HEVC takes a long encode and decode both on PC and XR2. Repeat the experiment in vrchat like everyone else or perish forever.

is that terry

>>513806487
He has a dogshit setup.
You don't go 2x the latency over optimal setup (VD: 42.7ms) otherwise.
Top of the graph is straight up bullshit.

>makes inane claim
>come back to samefag later to prove his true point of view
>"hehe with my devious plan my enemies will look like fools to the general populace"
what kind of mental illness is this

>>513807097
I don't see a clear proof of anything right now.

>>513801756
where can I get nipple trackers

>>513806804
if it's him, he should just make a proper vr game, so questlets can win this argument once and for all

>>513806839
>(VD: 42.7ms)
>he believes VD latency readout at face-value
oh no no no
VD is just telling you the latency for the network stack and excludes the display stack latency on the hmd itself
ALVR/WIVRN tell you estimated MtP which include both stacks

>>513807716
The vd result is in the graph. From courting frames.
Everyone knows that gay goblin's overlay data is completely fake and gay.

>>513799745
>Wrong, stupid newfags.
bro just open up any of the debug views on streaming software and compare the latencies at each point of the network stack
its almsot always decode taking way longer than anything else
t. 4 wifislop headsets sitting on my shelf

>>513799745
>With usb cable at 120hz, the latency is better than most wired headsets
holy moly we have a live one here

>>513807878
>t. 4 wifislop headsets sitting on my shelf
You wouldn't be any less retarded even if you had 20. At least bother to read the thread even a little bit.

What is it about latency that gets fiesty autists up in arms and screaming at each other?

>>513808112
>no! 4ms is not smaller than 12ms!
this is (you)

>>513808207
This is (You) not reading the thread.

>>513808113
yeah idk, i bought quest 3, couldnt stand the latency and compression so i returned it and now i dont care.
Autists will be autistic...

Today I will learn how to play mahjong for the 4th time

It's fish'o'clock
EU Lobby : Holy carp!
Password: 8008

>>513808349
I said
>the primary latency bottleneck tends to be decoding on the XR2 chip's side of things
you said
>wrong
tell me how decoding isn't the primary contributor to wireless latency on XR2 Standalone Sloppers right now or fuck off retard

>>513808113
I've played MMOs at 300ms for decades. I don't know why anyone cares about +/-10ms.

>>513808113
zucklets need to defend their $300 shitbrick
you vill not expose ze latency

>>513808967
It was already explained multiple times, try actually reading the thread.

>>513808994
10ms in VR is very noticeable lol
300ms for an MMO? still noticeable but at least its not VR

>>513809153
except it can't have been because decoding is almost always like 3x the timespan of encode and network transit steps when you use a high bitrate
:^)

>>513807862
>>513807716
There is a VD result with a VD openxr runtime with a custom made app which only shows a single color achieving pretty low delay. It's still a completely non realistic result. Due to that unrepresentative sample Terry claims everyone else have wrong wifi setups and refuses to do the same test in real vr game.

>>513809279
Your only source of data is bullshit ingame overlays made by incompetent retards.
Read the fucking thread, monkey. Not even going to bother to reply to you anymore.

>>513809465
>Your only source of data is bullshit ingame overlays made by incompetent retards.
so the overlays that all report an exact breakout of their network stacks regarding encoding/transit/decode are all wrong
you're on another level of cope right now
sorry bud you're just wrong

>>513809445
>There is a VD result with a VD openxr runtime
No, it's full steamvr. It's says so in the graph.

>>513809623
>so the overlays that all report an exact breakout
News flash, they are straight up bullshit. Gay goblin in particular lies about pretty much everything.
You can only trust camera footage, newfag.

>>513809654
Doesn't matter, the app shows a plain screen, and the app is litterally nothing but plain color, it's not a real game engine or anything.

>>513809623
They are. VD is missing at least 40 ms of delay in it's graph.

>>513809832
>we lie and place random numbers in our encode/transit/decode numbers because we just want to!
I'm supposed to take (you) seriously?
this software knows entirely how much time is taken for the network stack because that's what its controlling and touching directly
they just estimate the display side of the HMD because that's after they hand off the data to HMD itself and that added latency gets excluded on VD's readout but estimated on ALVR/WIVRN and thrown onto the estimated total

>>513809082
literally the exact same kind of person claiming the compression isn't visible
absolute retards or unironic shills

>>513810040
>They are. VD is missing at least 40 ms of delay in it's graph.
yes which I pointed out earlier here >>513807716
this still doesn't mean that decode isn't taking longer than the encode or transit steps
simply that VD isn't displaying the estimated display stack latencies on top of their overall number
they're just displaying the network side

>>513810076
(You)
Trust the experts, bro.

>>513810207
You are plain retarded, huh.

>>513810295
bro take the VD number and subtract it from the total shown on the graph
then realize it lines up with what you'd get running standalone on the quest or pico (pico standalone is in that graph at about half of the wireless PCVR result)
tada, you did it! the missing display stack is there and is in line with normal headsets using a wire because there's no network encode/transit/decode stack adding an extra 40ms on top!

>>513810480
Missing display stack is basically the same as PCVR headsets do. Polls the controller, render game, copy it through optionally a few framebuffers, send it over DP (or eDP) to copy to the screen, and then flash the backlight. With WiFi headsets it has to be done in addition to copy to the encoder, H264 encode, transmission over wifi, decoding, copy to GPU of the HMD.

>>513810040
>and the app is litterally nothing but plain color
That's not true. Controllers are tracked and displayed in the correct position in the game world.
And it does everything what a normal game would do, just efficiently (somewhat, maybe you can do even better).
And the last version has tracked noise too, usb link has the same latency there (or maybe better? it's lower on the graph I think).

>>513810480
Wrong. You don't know what you are talking about. Just listen what people tell you here.

>>513810902
>And it does everything what a normal game would do, just efficiently (somewhat, maybe you can do even better).
yet it's not how real games played today behave.

>>513811062
Maybe the other devs are just not passionate enough and use unity dogshit.

>>513810886
yes, this is why I said it lines up with the wired hmds when you remove the network stack and compare that to their standalone results
>>513810902
bro trying to tell you how basic math works is like pushing a fucking boulder up a vertical cliff face

>>513811212
You are operating from false assumptions which have no basis in reality.
Nothing lines up. The reported numbers in gaygoblin app are just bullshit.

>>513804906
wrong

>>513811212
>>513810480
And here is a post from gaygoblin himself, further disproving everything you said.
The reported latency is supposed to be motion-to-photons. And that's bullshit, and he is straight up lying.

>>513811371
>gaygoblin app
i assume you mean the Terry App which isn't being discussed by me at all
here, I'll spoonfeed as hard as I can:
>Pico 4 Standalone latency: 49.2
our baseline
>Pico 4 Wired PCVR latency (noisy 50mbps): 64.7
wired usb streaming
>Pico 4 Wireless PCVR latency (noisy 50mbps): 69.9
wireless streaming
>69.9 - 64.7 = 5.2ms
this is roughly your transit latency, ie a router added on top of encode/decode stack for the streaming part of the pipeline
5ms isn't far off from what I've seen with a WiFi 6 router usually showing like 4ms or so in a debug view
>64.7 - 49.2 = 15.5ms
this is your encode + decode at a low bitrate being pushed to its maximum by a noisy scene
encode usually doesn't take 7.75ms (half the total here), so we can probably assume a 2/3rd split just as an estimate with
>5.16ms encode, 10.33ms decode
this isn't far from a 4ms encode and 12ms decode that I've seen, but that's usually for higher bitrates than 50mbps
>now back to that standalone number:
the baseline 49.2ms is a bit high for standalone, I would expect a number closer to 40ms for 90hz
but tests are going to have some margin of error so these numbers have a bit of wiggle room

I admit I haven't done standalone tests for my dataset, but I would expect standalone tests to line up with wired equivalents at their respective refresh rates unless something wrong is going on under the hood of the Android OS these things are built on top of

>>513812082
ok well that's just the VD dev being wrong
his number does line up with the approximate value I would assume the QPro standalone test would show though which would be 40ms or so as well at 90hz if you subtract the VD ms readout form the graph's result with camera testing

>>513812082
who's gaygoblin?

>>513800385
Great heisting, had forgotten how fun Payday 2 VR was.

>>513812660
the developer of virtual desktop

>leashcucks still trying to justify a 5 year old headset that costs 3 times as much as a quest
when will they learn?

they don't care
attacking their leash weak point enrages them
>>513801756

>>513812778
picrel being the average image quality compressioncucks get

*strangles you with the cable*
Yeah, what now bitch?

index: 999 USD
quest 3 after you purchase all the extra shit you need to make it a usable headset: 675 USD

>>513813115
yeah about that

>>513813190
Index really is the best value headset
Especially with the wireless adapter

>>513813342
>nofio

>>513813190
well i just meant an index full kit since you need base stations and if you dont already own those then you gotta buy those separately

The indeck be free when you steal it from white pepo

>>513812630
You have 0 idea what you are talking about.
You are so new, you don't even know who gaygoblin is.
You are trying to find patterns in data which is straight up noise.

>>513790127
mahjong! https://vrch.at/qd6aq84b

>>513813420
if you're on a budget you can likely find old Vive kits for real cheap and just use those base stations
controllers can hit hard if tundra isn't selling any for $95 a pop though ($279 from Valve new)

>>513813115
>quest 3: 550
>bobo strap everyone shills here: 115
>facial interface: 30
>dedicated router: 100-150
>actual grips for the controllers: 20
>starting the headset: selling your soul to zuck

>>513813839
the bobo strap is not that good

>>513800645
>openxr app
Is that app available anywhere? Greendayle's repo mentions it, but doesn't appear to link to it.
VRChat does appear to have some extra latency built into the pipeline, so you probably can't compare the result of the VRChat map to that of, well, any other benchmark.

>>513813987
yes i know it sucks ass, everyone shills it regardless

>>513813564
I don't know why you're trying so hard when I have clearly stated what VD dev is excluding and how to see that missing latency from the data we have collected here in THE GRAPH
I have no idea what you're trying to prove
the numbers from THE GRAPH for a pico device using pico connect still give numbers that line up very closely with expected values you'd see from any of these streaming methods breaking out encode/transit/decode
I literally have nothing else to say to you because its just there, right in front of you to observe

anyway my point still stands: decoding is a bottleneck in the WiFi Streaming Slop and until companies start using dedicated hardware on some specialized codec targeting low latency, it'll be hard to shave that number down
encode and network transit times are so low already that any gains there will be very negligible
4ms for encode and 4ms for transit aren't going to see much room for improvment compared to 12ms for decode
but hey if you magically make encode and decode 1ms jobs then yeah the router will matter more for once because it finally becomes the bottleneck!

>>513813839
oh right, i forgot i had gotten my quest 3 on a discount. yeah the value difference really isnt that good.

>>513814092
why are you worried about 4ms?

>>513814224
I'm worried about the 12ms decode
did you read at all?

>>513814092
If what you are saying is right, it shouldn't be physically possible to get 32 ms with Quest2 no matter what you.
And unfortunately that's physically possible. This is what I mean by "assumptions which have no basis in reality".

>>513814002
It was posted here. Maybe someone still has it and can repost. Check the exe hash though.

>>513814273
12ms of decoding for wireless play is a great deal

>>513814334
>it shouldn't be physically possible to get 32 ms with Quest2 no matter what y
it largely depends on what the Quest 2's result is with on a locally run standalone app
if 120hz mode gets close to 32ms (which is very plausible) on a standalone app then the best you could theoretically do with a network stack on top of that will still be a bit higher even if encode/decode were 1ms jobs each

>>513814439
12ms is just a large slice of the total network latency pie and why I say it should be targeted for improvement
a new router might net you 1-2ms difference on the transit step if any change at all
encode of 4ms can still be lowered but the current network latencies we're seeing from user tests in THE GRAPH are still showing total network stack latencies of ~40ms overall
which is definitely noticeable when added on top of the display latency stack because you're effectively doubling it
and this is jsut for 50mbps after all, which is borderline unusable unless you have foveated encoding

>>513814636
Are you really that fucking retarded or just pretending?
32ms is the result with 500mbps encoding/decoding stack, you absolute cretin.

>>513814002
>Is that app available anywhere?
the precompiled exe was linked in the thread in the past but no source of course ;^)
its takes a lot longer to get data per test in that app compared to the VRC map and most of my data is already in the VRC map so retesting for OpenXR alone doesn't do much for me
I sitll have my few tests with v2 (?) of that app in my graph, but they really can only be compared against each other or more of a means of trying to see if OpenXR versus OpenVR has a major difference in latency (which it likely does), but the added VRC layer with Udon complicates trying to figure that out as well
all I'd gain from getting more data from that OpenXR application would just be seeing how much latency VRC adds
the relative results from the same testing method and environment are what I'm looking for instead

>>513815354
>its takes a lot longer to get data per test
not in the last version

>>513815461
that's good
most of my data is from the same version of the VRC map though so its much easier for me to compare and contrast among that dataset
but the test I did do with v2 at least helped me confirm that Monado itself used to have a latency issue that has since been fixed in the IPC

>>513814963
>32ms is the result with 500mbps encoding/decoding stack, you absolute cretin.
oh for the Terry App?
yeah that doesn't compare against any of the data we have since no one is using that app to create datasets
you'd have to run that app locally on the Quest 2 as a standalone application and gather the numbers it gets there for MtP and compare them to the results from wired streaming on the PCVR variant of the OpenXR app
otherwise that number just means nothing

>>513815780
>otherwise that number just means nothing
How can it mean nothing when it completely disproves your "latency math" logic?
Let's just ignore the evidence which contradicts premade conclusion? Really doing the modern science huh?

>>513816006
>How can it mean nothing when it completely disproves your "latency math" logic?
it doesn't disprove my latency math when you don't know what the baseline on the quest is with that app
you'd have to collect that data in the first place so we could compare
you should go ahead and do it so that you can in theory disprove me though :^)

>>513816006
btw my guess based on known values would be about 17ms or so on a standalone version of the OpenXR app running locally on the device

>>513816290
You are not doing honest science. Talk about being disingenuous.
If what you are saying is correct, 32ms result shouldn't be physically possible.
But nah, let's just ignore it and say
>As expected, Wireless VR headset have a considerably higher motion to photon latency than wired VR headsets, at a sensible bit-rate and complex scene almost double that of the wired headsets (40 ms to 80 ms increase of latency).
>This can explain the trouble players experience in fast paced shooting games, where they feel less accurate using wireless headset compared to wired: the gun can move with almost 100 ms delay which is quite noticable. And also overall "sluggish" feel of WiFi compressed video VR headsets.

>>513816656
>If what you are saying is correct, 32ms result shouldn't be physically possible.
why not?
the app is OpenXR, its very minimal, and had lower results in my tests than VRC which makes complete sense
just run it locally on the HMD and grab the data to compare
its literally that easy

>>513816813
So turns out 500mbps encoding/decoding has no overhead?
What about the math with the same chip?
500mpbs is 0 ms, but 50mpbs is 15.5ms as said in >>513812630
Very nice logic. Makes total sense.

Do you not realize how ridiculous that sounds?

>>513817324
>So turns out 500mbps encoding/decoding has no overhead?
oh no it most certainly does
that's why I estimated an improvement here >>513816540 when run locally on the HMD itself
until someone can test the OpenXR Terry App standalone on a Quest 2 at 120hz though we won't ever know
so if you're Terry-anon go ahead and port it to the Quest 2
if not then this argument serves zero purpose because none of us have the source code to do it

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>>513817540
There is no point in more testing when you just ignore evidence which doesn't fit your premade conclusion.

>>513818127
WE DONT HAVE ANY EVIDENCE BECAUSE NO ONE HAS DATA FROM RUNNING THE TERRY APP STANDALONE ON THE QUEST
christ man
if you're Terry-anon just say so and then admit you don't want to port the exe tester to a Quest 2 apk
if not then why in the flying fuck are you so focused on a single result from a precompiled exe that no one wants to run and grab data from

"oops teehee" - grass 10/02/2025

>>513818383
You don't need that. There is no point trying to prove a retarded theory which obviously has nothing to do with reality.
All the wireless results in the graph are disqualified until they can prove that it's not just "minion router up their ass" setup to push "wireless bad" narrative.
They should run the openxr app. If you get garbage results with the most optimal software, you are going to get even worse with unity shit.

>>513818848
>All the wireless results in the graph are disqualified until they can prove that it's not just "minion router up their ass" setup to push "wireless bad" narrative.
lol, lmao

>>513818848
sorry that wireless is bad but I'm not a boogeyman spoofing my results
I would love for wireless to be good and low-latency, but WiFi streaming just isn't there yet
we need better encode/decode processes to cut it down but even then we're probably talking about like a minimum of 10ms or w/e the Vive wireless solution was getting
much more tolerable, but still a slight additional delay
I tested multiple standalone HMDs with multiple configurations using multiple bitrates across multiple OSs
my router is the ASUS RT-AX88U PRO AX6000
I'm probably the only one who would be willing to run the Terry App to grab more data, but again its only comparable to other datasets using that same program and thus provides me little value for spending more time retesting devices
I'm the kind of person that could easily tell I was getting extra latency from Monado and am very glad they fixed it so that the latency on my BSB at 90hz now matches the Index at 144hz

>>513819520
If you fail to reach sub 50ms results with openxr directly, it just means your wireless setup is highly suboptimal, aka skill issue.
And that means you have no ground to say "wireless bad".
You switched the input pooling method in the map too halfway through the tests. Did you even change or remove old results btw?

>>513819520
>we need better encode/decode processes
This shit again. XR2 is good enough. It wouldn't be able to push 500mbps at 32ms otherwise. And that's old as fuck chip.

you'll never convince an autist trying to prove that display point has higher throughput and lower latency than wifi that there are other factors that matter much more in a headset. Even quest pass-through camera has noticeable latency compared to natural eyesight. Everyone who has ever put on a quest knows this, but it also doesn't matter. Only the most autismal of simfags need such little latency.

>>513820804
any shooter games, to aim your gun, you fag

>>513820361
>If you fail to reach sub 50ms results with openxr directly, it just means your wireless setup is highly suboptimal, aka skill issue.
bro you are bringing up results that don't exist
no one used the fucking OpenXR app except for like 3 testers
of which only one did a WiFi test and got 42.7ms compared to a wired result of 31.3ms
that's all the data you have for a Quest 2
no standalone locally run data for the OpenXR app on the HMD
no WiFi data for a Quest 2 above 50ms like you keep bringing up
do you see the problem here? no one fucking used this OpenXR App to collect data so its basically irrelevant
>You switched the input pooling method in the map too halfway through the tests.
I have always used the original verison of the map and never changed that because guess what: I KEEP SAYING OVER AND OVER THAT I CARE ABOUT THE COMPARISONS BETWEEN SAME ENVIRONMENTS AND TESTS FOR THE DATA I ALREADY HAVE
>>513820780
you're retarded
standalone result is likely 10-20ms lower than that wired USB streaming result
you just can't test it because you can't run the precompiled exe on the Quest 2 locally :^)

>>513820929
I'm not popping addy before playing a round of Pavlov so 10ms on reaction time doesn't really matter, especially with how garbage Dave's netcode is. The actual only case is rhythm games where you need not only low latency, but very consistent one.

>>513820953
>standalone result is likely 10-20ms lower than that wired USB streaming result
Yeah, and chinks at pico are sandbagging. Just taking a nap for 40ms before they start processing the frame. Because why not.

>>513820953
>no one fucking used this OpenXR App to collect data so its basically irrelevant
And fucking stupid if you think about it. The standalone exe stays consistent and doesn't change. VRC can push some retarded update tomorrow which will completely invalidate all the previous results. Is it even possible to run the old version? Would someone even bother?

>>513821474
I make sure to down a few beers before pavlov to give the leashcucks a chance

>>513821547
>Yeah, and chinks at pico are sandbagging. Just taking a nap for 40ms before they start processing the frame. Because why not.
that result is on the VRC map which isn't directly comparable to the OpenXR App
totally different datasets and you keep mixing these up for some reason :^)
one day maybe you'll understand
Pico standaloine would also be low on the OpenXR App for sure, but again we can't test it because its not an apk
>And fucking stupid if you think about it.
nobody trusts it because the creator didn't provide the source code, just a precompiled binary

>>513821742
>that result is on the VRC map which isn't directly comparable to the OpenXR App
Oh, yeah, vrc is just 200% less efficient. Nice "game" you have there.
>nobody trusts it because the creator didn't provide the source code, just a precompiled binary
Nobody but your cronies did the test in the original map too. It's just that nobody but a couple of autists actually care.

>>513822212
>Oh, yeah, vrc is just 200% less efficient. Nice "game" you have there.
correct, its very badly made on top of an off-the-shelf engine running an outdated VR runtime
>It's just that nobody but a couple of autists actually care.
correct; but it definitely still rings true that a VRC map is a much lower barrier of entry for both accessibility and trust when the alternative is some random exe from a catbox link
and when a majority of the data is already from that map, it provides the best dataset to compare against other results since well... those results actually exist

>>513822212
>Oh, yeah, vrc is just 200% less efficient. Nice "game" you have there.
But only for wireless headsets for some reason. For wired headset it's just 10ms extra. How convenient.

>>513822212
>cronies
lol, lmao. the great leashcuck conspiracy who bought all these wireless headsets just to make falsified tests

I got a quest 3 and want to get into vr driving
which are the best wheels to get started? I see the thrustmaster T248 on sale for $300 but don't know if that's good

Quest 3 would be a lot more compelling of a purchase if it didn't require another $500 of shit to make it usable

Fuck zucc for designing a piece of shit meant to trap you in their shit ecosystem and make the quest 4 have a good strap

$500 for just the visor is already a bargain, retarded poorfag.
Who cares anyway, vr has no games.

>>513824732
Logitech G29/G920 (same wheel with different buttons) is the usual entry level recommendation, and occasionally goes on sale for $200. It's like $280 bundled with a shifter right now.
If you don't mind spending the extra money, the T248 FFB should be better since it's belt driven instead of gear driven, but I'm not really sure it's worth the extra money, especially if you just want something basic to mess around with.

>>513827134
is this a good deal?

>he doesn't already have a wifi 6e router
They tech has been out for 5 years now how long are you going to wait to upgrade your router ?

If you want a good deal, buy used. A lot of people fall for the meme, only to sell the kit after one or two uses.

>>513827841
wifi 7 vs 6 is a difference of about 1-2ms on the transit part of the network stack
only retards parrot the idea that router actually matters beyond something modernish and not stuck on 2.4GHz for some god forsaken reason

does anyone remember about the vrg podcast? how long ago was that?

>>513827853
the issue with used items is that you can't be sure if something is actually in good condition or if they're trying to scam you with a faulty item

>he doesn't have a wifi 7 router already
poor "people" pls
vr is not for you, f2p gacha thread is two block down

>>513824732
G29 with a G29 shifter. Can be used, it's built like a tank

>>513826606
The Kiwi strap, the meme Minions router, and a couple battery banks will get you to around $200 total. I was getting by fine on a cheaper Wifi 6 router for a while there too.
I've spent less than I did on my initial Index purchase and way less on additional stuff than I did on cable replacements and a head strap to replace the one that fell apart.
It gets more expensive if you're starting from scratch and want base stations to use Vive trackers for VRC, but outside of that, I don't know how you'd get anywhere near $500.
>Fuck zucc for designing a piece of shit meant to trap you in their shit ecosystem
Yeah, I do still wish they'd just make the same headset with an optional displayport cable so I could use that for sims.

big overdue chart update, more linux tests, new test participant with quest 3 using quest controllers and VD/SteamLink.

999 - means connection was too unstable to be useable.

>>513828913
Sorted by HMD label, OS

>>513829115
latencies, windows vs linux

>>513827841
Why would I care about wireless internet?

Steamlink good

Boing...

>>513827621
Doesn't seem like a bad price for a T248 right now, and the FFB and pedals are supposedly a bit better than a G29. Just depends on how much extra that's worth to you.
I'd still recommend going G29 for something entry level instead, but if you don't want the shifter right now and don't want to wait around for a sale, it's not really any cheaper unless you buy used/refurb.

>>513829607
yikes

>>513802550
Nostalgia event eh. I’m game for it if you set a date, I winder what others think though

>spawn in sewer
>hear gun cocking in restrooms
>peek up the ladder
>2 kills first minute
God I love metro.

>>513829607
>aislop turbocoomer

Clone Drone in the Hyperdome was released without any marketing. It makes me sad.

>>513831228
I mean, they are doing just fine?

>>513829346
Valve is doing something very right with their SteamLink. |Beats VD and Pico connect in latency, and is quite close to Vive Wireless! At 200 megabits!!!

>>513831228
It got the spotlight on Zucc store the first week it released but they also somehow botched the preorders so people that preordered with discount didn't get it and had to buy full price. Releasing during Christmas sale right after some big titles and hyped up stuff released certainly didn't help either.

>>513831474
120hz vs 90hz probably helps the Q3 versus QPro SteamLink results

>>513831415
they could be better off

>>513831474
Foveated encoding, it's that simple.

>>513831895
>fixed foveated
But yea, with proper encoder settings, foveation, fast wifi, we can eventually have good visuals and latency. The future looks less bleak.

>>513802550
Let's write a list of worlds to visit on top of Gaia and Void (Void club has no music)

Old Hub Recreation
Hotel on the beach (has that space slide)
Presentation Room
Open Mic Night
Pecant Valley
Hangout House
Suburban House
Treehouse in the Shade ( RIP 1001 )
Laser Disc
Doki Doki literature Club school
Falz Memoria
Kaine's Hut
one of the first MMD worlds including the one that used to have the molest station
wherever this was taken

>>513818127
i forgot the vpro2 at 120hz should be a decent estimate for a q2 at 120hz locally running the same app
so here's your estimated difference as a result of using USB streaming

>>513832091
On QPro it's obviously not fixed so you can go bit extreme with it, 150Mbps 768px is perfectly usable with eyetracking. Which just proves that eyetracking is definitely a must for next generation of HMDs.

>>513832306
the second hub, (the one with the funny floating apples)
rave robbi
madcat
avatar testing

>>513833603
>>513832306
and almost forgot, that GJ-bu world some anon made. And that sleepy map with the big window, the fireplace, and the sleeping bags that I forgot the name of

>>513829607
Cute. I always love the funny noises that come out of your breasts

>>513832306
Your pic is The Madcat

https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_c0182e30-c27b-4438-8d19-dc02df22dd88/info

I've had an idea for a nostalgia event too. Everyone could set up a MMD/CM3D2/gamerip model.

> Hotel on the beach (has that space slide)

fuuuuuuck anon thanks for the feels

>>513833950
you can do that?

>>513834965
Yeah their breasts go boing boing and pochi pochi when you touch it like an exaggerated ecchi anime. Very funny

NA world exploration today?

tanyao is merely the beginning

>>513837035
Yeah should be at the usual time in about 2 hours

>>513834069
the world itself is unlisted but you can take portals into it from another world the creator made

https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_113e03b4-f84f-4811-ad2c-4525b2d7e662/info

>>513840967
ty anon. you should still be able to drop a portal then via the world link if you can get it through vrcx

hey!

Tuesday's movie is Rush Hour !

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120812/

A loyal and dedicated Hong Kong Inspector teams up with a reckless and loudmouthed L.A.P.D. detective to rescue the Chinese Consul's kidnapped daughter, while trying to arrest a dangerous crime lord along the way.

starting at 20:00 UTC as usual !

>>513750779 (Cross-thread)
more godot xr gamejam progress. I figured out a stupid way to detect gpu particle system collisions back on the cpu. Essentially it draws a copy of the particle system in a separate subviewport (c.f. rendertexture in unity), but using a special shader that instead of doing actual rendering, it checks if each particle's position is in the target bounding box and if so, draws a red quad across the entire screen, otherwise draws nothing. Then you can copy the rendered texture back to the cpu (at the smallest possible 2x2 resolution). If the first pixel is red, then at least one particle is inside the target bounding box. Wa la.

There's almost certainly a better way to do this, so I'm going to post this to the godot forum and hope I bait some some other dev into implementing a proper solution after they witness my crimes against gpu pipeline synchronization.

New week of PyPy is upon us and a new update to the map was made. I am very excited come join dance and see the new features

https://vrch.at/sxxw55ej

>>513850329
I don't really get it but the lights are cool

Alright NA Exploration is up at https://vrch.at/rt0yxwsw or on ASleepySnow . Going forward I'm probably going to stop prechecking maps as much as I have historically so quality may fluctuate more should be fun. Come take some pictures and encourage me to drop more motion sickness maps.

Showing I've Always Liked You and The Moment You Fall in Love as a romance double feature tomorrow night at 10PM ET (about 24 hours from now) for NA anime movie night. I'll post details to join off of when the instance is up.

>>513850968

>>513851807

>>513850329
Does chat gpt work with godot engine coding?

>>513851807

>>513854020
/djt/ in my explo???

>>513855804

>>513855804
God I wish. I need to make Dekinai-chan proud

ze pod...

>>513852838
Yeah, it's pretty good. o3-mini-high did the implementation for my collision check hack: https://chatgpt.com/share/67aacb7b-07c8-8002-9aa2-bb54b0c5fc0e . it still missed a few small details of the api (the aabb code is wrong) but it's definitely better at shitting out code than I am. I wish it'd also do the work of sifting through the godot source code and issue tracker and d*scord for me, but I'm not rich enough to paypig for deep research. not yet anyway.

>>513857045

>>513857060
>I wish it'd also do the work of sifting through the godot source code and issue tracker and d*scord for me, but I'm not rich enough to paypig for deep research.
Yeah you hit the nail on the head on why I would think it wouldn't be able to do GoDot coding. AI needs the documentation so it can understand what the code needs to do and can do.

And GoDot documentation is sparce to all hell and back.
At least with Udonsharp it's just C# and Unity so it can do it by just assuming it's unity anyways and just patterning the limitations that udonsharp places on C# unity.

I've honestly been loving my chatGPT subscription as well and been using it for work.
I'll see if I can use it to gamedev a bit too. As long as we are detailed and autistic in telling it what we want it seems really good. I'm hopeful fellow gamedev anon

>>513857457

>>513857457
eiii the 3D scan event again?

>>513857626
no just portugal

>>513857457
show me more of the ryan gosling

>>513857747
he drove off sorry

>>513857817

>>513857572
This is a reminder that docking is strictly verboten

>>513857457
>>513857572
show more of that green hair prostitute

>>513858603
This one's a classic. Surprised it still works

>>513832306
harbl hotel
the gap
that mall world that F made a long time ago
the cupboard (the old version)

>>513850387
see you tomorrow

It's Mojito Monday time for jams and drinkies!

https://vrch.at/s63g8m8g

>>513863489
boy spotted

>>513850387
>>513863489
>https://vrch.at/sxxw55ej
https://files.catbox.moe/8bc2qw.mp4
pypy video

>installing creator companion
>1 hour of unity garbage to download and install
I think its stuck nothings been going on for 30 minutes

>>513868360
download through web not vrc

>>513866339
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zIDiHXvhOY

>>513863489
wtf is my mans wearing :skull: :skull: :skull:

>>513832306
* Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground
* Nepbar
>Both gone
It's over
* Bifröst - Endless Tower (aka the Triple Triad world)

>>513868360
Use ALCOM instead

>>513857539
>fellow gamedev anon
You both are a disgrace. AI slop is negative soul right from the get go.
More than that, if you copypaste the code, you learn absolutely nothing and become progressively more and more braindead.
To give you a videogame analogy, it's like letting a bot play the easy levels and then jump right into the late game on the hardest difficulty when the bot inevitably shits itself. You built no skill, have no 0 idea what's going on. You can't even tell if the bot's suggestion is absolutely retarded or not, and that's very likely for any non-trivial problem.

Okay so I got the unity character thing open, is there any way to change an assets color inside unity?
I want a different hair color, tie color and put high contrast colors as an accent on the clothes.

There is a color correction thing in Poiyomi apparently but it doesn't change anything if I mess with the sliders? Is there an apply button I'm missing?
As for the accents and highlights, I would need to probably edit the texture itself. Highly doubt I can do that inside Unity itself, how can I drag the texture out of the unity asset and edit it in my image editor?

>>513873887
>how can I drag the texture out of the unity asset and edit it in my image editor?
find the unity project folder in the file explorer
unpack first if needed

>>513872762
While I get what you mean about the bot doing it for us it's not quite the correct analogy here.
The bot can not concoct our ideas exactly with a single prompt.

It's a directed experience of tasking the bot for knick knacks as you need it. Treat the bot as a junior dev or codemonkey. Ofcourse we still know what the code he is typing is. But the tool of AI is so valuable and easy to use, it's a disgrace to not use it.
I will not hammer a nail with my bare hands if I can use a hammer.

>>513874032
Ah okay I found that, thanks.
Wish I could see live about the changes I make. Theres a LOT of black in this texture and it all looks the same. Faintly remember something like that when I worked with blender on a previous first time project

>>513874089
>Treat the bot as a junior dev or codemonkey.
People love to tell themselves that, but we both it's not the case in reality.
You are literally losing your ability to think.
And to solve the hardest problems you will need all the skills you can possibly get, because you will be absolutely on your own there.

LLM are close to worthless, for anything but absolutely trivial stuff, because even if you use them "correctly" and don't copypaste their slop, you can't even learn anything properly from them, because they just straight up lie to you.

But if being mediocre forever is fine with you, then I guess you do you, but you shouldn't expect anything but disdain from others.

>>513874681
>LLM are close to worthless, for anything but absolutely trivial stuff, because even if you use them "correctly" and don't copypaste their slop, you can't even learn anything properly from them, because they just straight up lie to you.
I would agree with you 6 months ago but this new o3-mini-high is another level. It literally helped me build a geo-guesser game as a room for FBF.

While I typed in most of the code. It helped me in key parts to do it muuuuch faster than me just punching away.
LLMs at it's current level is a good tool, it's a bad idea to ignore tools as humans build them.
We need to embrace the use of AI as a tool.

That Fiscer-Yates shuffle system is insane, I had no idea that existed and AI helped me with that

>>513874914
>with you 6 months ago but this new o3-mini-high is another level.
You say that every 6 months. And they are still unreliable dogshit. If to use it properly, I have to doubt everything it generates what is the fucking point?
>Fiscer-Yates shuffle system is insane
This is just embarrassing. How does it feel being worse than a random pajeet from india?

Different guy here, but similar unity questions.
(or blender but I'd have to learn that from step 1 which would mean more malding and spoonfeeding)
So I have two avatars here. Both are unitypackage prefabs.
One has separate packages for eyes and everything (the one I want to rip from), the other is just "head" (base).
I just want to rip apart the eyes from one avatar, place them onto the other and merge the bones.
Any good ways to just make the eye disappear from the base model? There's an EFBody and a normal version but for both, the head is just one big thing with no option to yoink out the eyes.
I have no idea what the hell I'm doing...

>>513875169
>This is just embarrassing. How does it feel being worse than a random pajeet from india?
I literally am not a programmer my guy. This is a hobby

>>513875169
>embarrassing
Sometimes it's embarrassing to be a creator! Many choose to criticize instead!

>>513875182
It's time to open blender

>>513868360
The CC has never worked for me in downloading unity, I' always have to use the unity hub

>>513824732
get a 5090

>>513875338
>I literally am not a programmer my guy. This is a hobby
Yet you give absolutely cancerous advice, pretending that you know what you are talking about.
"I would agree with you 6 months ago", yeah, like you fucking understand anything.
Human waste.

>>513875182
unless you can hide the eyes with the asset checkmark or color only the eyes with an invisible material, you need to use blender
>merge the bones
you need to use blender
the things you can do in unity are show/hide avatar features, change the shapekeys, animations, color/texture changes, dynamic bouncy bones
So anything that requires changing the avatar's features needs blender

>>513875913
Hobbyists are humans too! And as a hobbyist I rike AI. It has helped me as a very valuable tool from my experience.
You can scoff at that and you have the right to as an expert in the field. But for an every day guy like me? I really rike it

>>513875182
For eyes it's just a texture that you plop into the face psd. Unless it's some non-booth abomination I guess

>>513832306
old loading screen world

>>513875182
Consider looking up https://vrwiki.info/wiki/Avatar_Hypertutorial
It'll have some info that will help you.

RATATATATATA DAY!

>>513875913
Its not cancerous advise. Chatgpt can summarize all the internet discussion and documentation, answer your direct question and help you build something in minutes, where otherwise youd need hours or days of rtfm.

>loosing ability to think
You sound like a math teacher "you wont carry a calculator everywhere!!!!"

>>513883567
>Its
>advise
>loosing
Looks like it's already too late for you. Rip.

>>513884419
>minor spelling mistake

>discussing AI slop on a VR slop thread

>>513884572
VR and AI are adjacent. Both are bleeding edge tech that can and are shaping the world right now.
AI is also being used by a lot of companies including Zuckerberg for their VR stuff. And anons in this thread use it for their VRchat maps and game jam sessions

>>513884572
VR and AI are adjacent. Both are memes.

>>513884758
That's right. They're the DNA of the soul

>memearsenal.ru

>>513885898
RUSSIA MENTIONED RAAAAAAAAAGHHHH RURURURURURURURURURURURU

>>513887392
you mean
>ZZZOOOVVV CBO CBO CBO ЛИКBИДИPOBAH ГOOOOOOOOOOOЛ ГOЙДAAAA

>>513787754
woaw racing through arma 2!

what do when hands clip through gloves
do i just delete the hands from the model in unity?

>>513890458
yes
Either that or autistically spend 20 hours fine tuning the weighting and the mesh.
Another alternative is a shapekey that shrinks your hand mesh a little so it doesn't clip through the glove. This is more useful if you want to be able to take the gloves on and off and don't want an extra mesh object.

>>513890458
Yeah delete the hands. Some use a blendshape that shrinks the hands to 0 as well

>>513890458
pick it up

>>513890458
Don't listen to them. The easiest solution is to make an alpha mask and just switch out the materials so your hands become transparent.
Also your outline is way too big.

>>513891623
>The easiest solution is to make an alpha mask and just switch out the materials so your hands become transparent.
The easiest solution if you are a nigger who doesn't respect other people.

>>513891861
boohoo one material slot, stop being poor

>>513891984
You mean 40 material slots

>>513892016
one extra

>>513892084
And the other 39 people in the instance also taking the same advice? Any kind of performance impact on modifications you recommend are multiplied by the number of people who follow the advice.

>>513892016
Switching materials doesnt add more material slots or reduce performance. Transparent materials are more expensive than opaque ones though.
Another solution is to use a shader which supports discarding vertices based on the UDIMS/UV coordinates.

>>513892084
Who would you need one exta material? Just swap the whole body material with the one which has cutout mask for the hands.

>>513892150
It's not just materials. With transparent material trick, you are still doing basically all the work. You can only discard in the fragment shader.
Pipeline switch for nothing, vertex processed for nothing, fragments generated for nothing.
Basically a nigger.

>>513890458
First check if your model already has shapekeys to shrink the hands

Allowing gorilla niggers to generate content completely unrestricted was a mistake.

Avatar optimization is the smell equivalent for virtual worlds.
If you are badly optimized, you stink.

>>513890458
https://github.com/mio3io/mio3_shrink_tools
use this to make shapekeys to shrink the hands
it's what the avatar creators use to make all the shrink shapekeys

>>513893251
Its the cart theory

>>513893761

>>513893913
>gain nothing
You stink less/smell pleasant. So it's not gaining nothing.
Other people can see/feel that you care, and will judge you based on that.
Some might not care at all. And it's a fact that if too many stinkies gather, the place becomes uninhabitable.

>>513894173
not my problem

The stink of low fps.

>>513894272
Only poor people can smell it.

>J-just use stronger perfume! What are you poor?
Stinkies, get out.

Hardware literally doesn't matter. If everyone magically gets 5090, the stinkies are just going to stink proportionally stronger.

>>513894454
>>513894570
see:
>>513894251

>>513894690
see
>Avatar Hidden [x]
>User blocked [x]

Go stink somewhere else, hobo.

>the pajeet self-moderates himself out of my sight
love a problem that solves itself

>WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM BRO
>JUST BUY 5090 AND FILTER EVERYONE FURTHER THAN 20 CM AWAY FROM YOU

>>513894978
Stinkies unironically do be like that instead of just taking a shower.

Meanwhile:
>In world by myself in good rated avatar
>20fps

Thanks world creators

>>513895180
Stop visiting maps based in india.

>>513895449
Indians are actually too poor to even run VRC in desktop

>>513895539
Many are honorary indians, like >>513894251 for example.

>>513893913
brother I can't even get my avatar to work properly let alone optimize it

>>513895663
People like you should be forced into premade low poly avatars.
I would honestl hate you a lot less that way, maybe even look favorably at you.

>>513895886
Insecure whiteboy detected

>>513896002
Yosh, yosh, little baby~
Here's your pacifier.

>>513895180
Meanwhile 3D scanned event ran at 6-8 ms per frame at 6000x6000 per eye.

Fumo and 3d scanned events show how well vrc can run if we get rid of unneeded avatar and map bloat.

>>513896260
There's bloat everywhere.
The main offenders are:
All Avatar 3.0 stuff. It's not captured in performance ranking at all but its the most important.
World performance. It's not even ranked or measured at all.

>>513896260
Udon is a big offender here. Feels like every map has that stupid fucking expresso prefab

>>513896260
>>513896347
1 vertex/fragment (simple texture lookup) shader per avatar max, and literally all issues will disappear overnight.

>>513896405
That would limit creativity and freedom of expresson somewhat.

Imagine if we could use impostors as LOD and only fully draw 10 closest avatars....

>>513896750
It's the opposite. Limitation is there creativity thrives.
You can boost it even further with physics.
Simple avatar + awesome physics >>>>>>> Complex avatar which doesn't react to the environment at tall.

>>513896849
>JUST BUY $5K GPU AND HIDE EVERYONE FURTHER THAN 30 CM AWAY FROM YOU, BRO!
Silence, pajeet.

>>513897124
>too poor to afford good hardware
>calls others pajeets
I think we have a live one boys
Time to go back to your white supremacist twitter account, scamjeeta

>>513896260
I mean avatars and maps are the main content.

>>513897187
I have 4090, you virtual stinky pajeet.
You are going to stink regardless of hardware. Even 8090 would not be enough for you.

>>513897124
That's how all games work, they use progressively less detailed models the further they are. VRchat renders avatars in full fidelity despite them being a mile away. They already have the impostor system, they should give us an option to use impostors as LODs. Its only logical.

SAAARRR
DO NOT REEDEEEM OPTIMIZATION SAARR

>>513897662
please make an argument that doesn't involve indians.
Firstly it makes you look like a schizo and completely demolishes any credibility to your points. Secondly it's unhealthy to be this obsessed. VRC is the least indian'd space on the internet right now BECAUSE the system requirements are so high.
IF anything you should be anti-optimization to keep the pajeets out even more

>>513898203
I am against incompetence first and foremost. You have zero respect for anything. You don't care if your laziness causes inconvenience to other people.
You are not a human, you are a dumb animal. And you will be treated the way you deserve to be treated.

>>513898497
make consistent arguments then
You've moved an anti-indian argument into an emotional argument.
Try a logical argument.

>>513898624
You can approach this situation from multiple angles.
But it's not favorable for you, no matter what.
You are virtually indian. It's a fact.
It would be better if lazy and dumb people like you didn't exist. It's a fact.

>>513898937
>indian
There we go again, enjoy the schizophrenia.

>>513898981
You are seething because that term describes you perfectly.

SHUT THE FUCK UP

TIME FOR PAYDAY 2 VR
RECOMMENDAN:
BUILDS
GUNS
ATTACHMENTS

i am now fully invested in the game after installing R's mods and changing the turn values MYSELF so it goes from a broken port to a great VR shooter :3

at the moment i've got this puppy (picrel) and a basic ass default class

>>513899708
I bought that piece of shit on release and I'm still fucking mad.

>>513899708
Builds : Anarchist
Guns: Akimbo Glock / 5-7
Attachment: Whatever gives you the most precision, stability and damage.

>>513901371
It's a very fun VR shooter, what are you mad about? Takes some time (10-15min) tweaking it up but then it plays great.

It's Pavlove day.

>>513903340
>Takes 15 minute tweaking
He says after 2 full days of NEET debugging

>>513904127
I'm not him, I'm the chinchilla mask, after not playing for like 2 years I just DL'd latest BLT, BeardLib,VRPlus, started the game, changed bindings and I was up and running.

>>513904127
that aint me retard
>everyone who likes this game is sqquare

Payday 2 VR is back on the menu /vrg/, we heisting on friday?

>>513906075
Isn't it a 4 player game?

>>513907316
Big Lobby mod makes it a 20+ player game.

>>513904304
"Just"

>>513908081
That sounds like chaos... Im intrigued

>>513903340
It sucks ass compared to the first game. They got the balance and difficulty all wrong. There was no content on release and they ruined the tone and seriousness of it. Once they started releasing all that DLC garbage I knew it was over.
I guess that's where you fall in and picked it up after years of update and don't know any better.

>>513909272
still better then the third game

>>513909434
I've seen the reviews for that one. Incredibly funny how they even fucked it up that the masses doesn't like it.
It's always the same shit with swedish studios, they manage to make one decent game with good vision and direction and then keep fumbling the sequels forever.

its hilarious that the players of this game look at me and are like "how the fuck do your arms move like that
its vr
its what?!"

this happened 3 times today while joining public lobbies
normies are truly fucking retarded

>>513911960
Dab on them to guarantee them buying a nice VR headset of their own SOON(tm)

I witnessed two trannies fighting in a public world this morning and it was hilarious, one of them was a massive schizo named shionsonozaki who was jealous/seething at the other tranny for starting hrt so early. He gave off major jelly vibes. VRChat never ceases to amaze me.

>>513913095
did pampers kill himself btw?
didn't see him once after they implemented email req for posting.

>>513831104
Take that back, he's nice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndmoi1s0ZaY
Oh no no no.

>>513915226
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kb5YzMoVQyw
Ahahahaha.

>>513915645
the three people on earth who managed to get 5090s must be horrified

The luckster fuckster is back in the vr business it seems. Palmer Lucky's defense company, Anduril, is taking over the IVAS contract from microsoft. Not that any of us will ever get any of the hardware.

https://palmerluckey.com/turning-soldiers-into-superheroes/

>>513915645
>>513915226
Saar, chatGPT said new connector is safe. Please do one thing and learn to plug cable well and do not redeem third party cable!

>>513915918
I hate that shabbos goy backstabbing traitorous faggot so much it's unreal.

>>513915918
> https://mixed-news.com/en/palmer-luckey-vr-announcement-in-few-weeks/

>leaked it in a twitter slapfight

He's also suggested they've got their own new/upgraded device in the works, which might also be shown soon. Anduril is super hyped up right now both by the markets and the DoD so this is good news for the survival of the program. The US Army was already looking into an IVAS Next recompete (nothing issued but a Request For Proposals so far) and with this move Anduril will take over for Microsoft as the incumbent and have to defend from other bidders. MS was already moving to totally divest Hololens and they had announced a partnership with Anduril a few months back so I guess I should have figured something was coming.

>>513916361
I will add that this device will probably be a transparent glasses-type AR device, not really anything that will be of interest to consumers.

>>513915226
Gotta be a damn idiot to get cards that demand so much power.

>>513918027
?
Are you fucking retarded?
We need as much performance as we can. VR is literally like the only actually valid use case for those card.

>>513918181
Enjoy setting fire to your house by drawing 1khw into your PC you dumbfuck

>>513918410
Why are you shitting and pissing your pants?
With proper hardware, 1k is nothing.
The boilers are 10k+ and they operate just fine.

>>513916536
While a opaque passthrough MR helm for soldiers would be cool as fuck and solve a lot of the issues with the immaturity of AR displays I think there's just too much UX risk involved. Something desired by soldiers is being able to flip up the device when they want clear vision.

Palmer Lucke/ Anduril hype statement on the move out now:

https://palmerluckey.com/turning-soldiers-into-superheroes/

https://x.com/anduriltech/status/1889347525297180696

anyone else check out the sanrio worlds yet?
the mochipoly factory was really really cool, so was the harmony forest

i also REALLY like a lot of the outfits but theyre all like 3k yen each aaaaghhh

>>513914903
No.

>>513920975
mochipoly factory's concert at the end was awesome. something about how they shut out the lights into almost pure darkness made it feel extremely professional, I think most IRL concerts of the sort I've seen do the same. It's something a lot of maps can't do because of baked lighting but it was very impressive here.

>>513921218
I flubbed all the rhythm shit at the end so hard
My ass would NOT survive a day in the OSU! mines

>>513920975
Want to watch the Mashumairesh performances but I can't be arsed to hop in at those times

>>513914903
He's fucking creepy. You bet your ass I'm checkmarking him at fbf.

It's Tuesday! Time for Pavlov Search and Destroy!
At 1900 UTC
Join the community server: "Gem Server!"

Password is 2792

>>513922152
SAAAAAAAARS

>>513923884
>reduced AWP and SV98 penetration to 89% (still lethal combined with any other bullet, but not minor damage sources like gas)

>>513772141
I’m sorry about the event hell, anon, I was not intending to bump shoulders by changing times, just having some difficulty with February being super busy and realizing I’d strain it even further by hosting two separate timezones.

>>513925961
honestly while kinda mentally straining in an autisticly specific way, its not the worst thing to have periods of event drought and event monsoons at times
i meant to say event hell in a term of endearment, not to sound derogatory

>>513872762
it writes the slop code i don't want to write

>>513870448
Never mind, Hidden Forbidden Holy Ground got reuploaded yesterday

>>513915918
kekd

>>513918410
my kettle uses more

Ohh, I get it
>murican 120 V outlets
lol, lmao

>>513928305
That piece of shit together with that iribe faggot literally ruined vr.

>>513928568
There is a special place in hell for those bastards.

>>513928305
that times cover saved vr by scaring normies away

>>513918410
>>513918873
>>513928526
The issue isn't the power consumption itself, but the connector not being truly rated for the card's total draw power.

>>513929478
Wrong. The issue is on the card side. Watch the fucking linked videos.

>>513799745
>With usb cable
So you wired the wireless headset. Interesting.

>>513812778
You stomped on 3 cables like a gorilla and decided to project your own inability to take care of your purchases on this thread for the past 3 years, could you stop being a nigger and go get a job?

Alone on a Friday night? NOT ANY MORE you'll be joining the Feels Bar for this Valentines day on Friday the 14th at 10pm ET. Luckily its right on the weekend so we can catch the annual r/a/dio Valentines stream. Bring your sorrows, or leave them at the door. Either way bring alcohol. Don't over do it though! or you might get shot

>>513893913
>optimizing towards numbers designed for $150 GPUs 10 years ago
yeah I'm thinking fuck off

>>513935070
yeah the eye cant see past 30 fps anyway

>>513935202
Going 1 tri over 70k instantly makes it very poor. In an instance of 30+ models all guaranteed to be over 70k tris all right next to each other I didn't drop below 30fps but for when the MAP was generating shit. The built-in optimization guidelines are shit and need updating for hardware that's not a decade old.

>>513935705
>Going 1 tri over 70k instantly makes it very poor.
Good

>>513935889
No, 69999 is good

>>513936105
Yes

>>513935705
The current range that's considered "very poor" needs some more granularity. Because right now a lot of people just kind of shrug their shoulders and say "welp guess I'm gonna be very poor no matter what, might as well put on 53 lights and 1000 materials who cares"

hey!!

movie starting soon! in about 10 minutes!

tonight we're watching Rush Hour !
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120812/

The fastest hands in the East meet the biggest mouth in the West.

https://vrch.at/pvtsgtma or join off Lumadurin !

>>513928305
the fuck is that background
some wargame?

>>513940295
Tiaw- i mean the Chinese Island off the main lands

>>513940768
yeah I know what country it is
scene looks to be a Taiwan war scenario, but doesn't look like command modern operations

>>513923884
too many bad rounds too many bgs

It's Pavl-over

Any router pro can tell me what's the concrete difference between those two
https://www.tp-link.com/uk/home-networking/wifi-router/archer-be3600/#specifications

https://www.tp-link.com/uk/home-networking/wifi-router/archer-be550/#specifications

One is 120 and the other 220

>>513943251
one is more expensive than the other

good pavlovski

>>513943251
the cheaper one doesn't even have the 6ghz band (which is what you care about for standalone slop), i have no idea why they're calling it wifi 7

fun games

>>513943251
gee man idk

>>513944326
oh so with the more expensive one i'm already ready for the quest 4 then I guess
fug I got excited about amazon listing because it was the first time I saw a wifi 7 router under 200

>>513944326
802.11be is wifi 7.
6GHz is recommended for wireless gaming because most consumer devices use 5GHz so you'll have less interference at 6Ghz and you also don't have to worry about lower bandwidth due to DFS channels being disabled if you live near a radar.
With that said it's not a hard requirement. I have no trouble with 5Ghz because I'm in an ideal wifi environment but I'd still recommend 6E or 7 with 6GHz.

Thinking the SKS and M110 should be 1200.

All guns except the Ak47 and M4 should be deleted desu

Every revolver should come with a cowboy hat

The AK74M isn't terrible as it was made out last week, thought M was the cunny smg one but I was wrong after double checking it today(the U is still good thoughbet). Definitely think you guys need to relax on sperging out and revising the config so fervently though. AK74M is fine and pretty usable so long as you buy the grip. I lost an engagement around 10-15m on the last map because I didn't have the money left over for the grip(or I forgot maybe both). The recoil can be controllable just control it better.

come play geolocator with me, right now

>>513947832
helps if you post the instance link my brownest little n'wah

>>513947832
i hate geolocater

>>513947832
>>513948036

https://vrch.at/9w5z74j7 wrong link lol

>>513945451
M110 needs a better, balanceable replacement.

>VD shits itself above 130Mbps over cable
>for a while can't figure out what the issue is
>after some extra googling decide to try disabling traffic encryption (which I shouldn't need anyway I guess)
>easy 400Mbps
Well that was stupid.

>>513949474
Mini-14 maybe.

>>513928216
there used to be the statue of a goddess there
I wonder why she left

>>513920975
Some of the worlds are repeats of last years. But a lot of the others are timed events you have to login for at a specific time. I’m looking for the new sanrio worlds that are fresh and not timed.

And yes we played mochi factory last year ot was very good

>>513832306
jesus christ grandpa shut the hell up, it's been seven years get over 2018 already

>>513958761
Get off my lawn.

>2018 was 70 years ago

>it is closer to the year 3000 than the year 2000

>we're closer to cyberpunk 2077 than we are to 9/11

>>513962434
This is literally true because you will reach the year 3000 after a finite amount of time but not the year 2000.

Running Topanga Canyon in Assetto Corsa tomorrow night at 8PM ET (a little over 24 hours from now).
Car list is in pic related, let me know if you have anything else you want to run.
Mods are below and the server is up if you want to test anything.
server: vrg racing
pass: tfwnodriftfu
voice chat (mumble): voice.vrg.party
mods: https://mega.nz/folder/xN4EGDiC#cvLFrD3kTpS_8pU7eNVvPw
DLC: https://mega.nz/folder/hNgHTIrb#utSeSx4mqKjcMYfwiI67sg

>spin clockwise in vr
>spin counter clockwise IRL
>feel sick and have the urge to vomit
why did I do that to myself

>>513968819
lmao

>>513946196
>I lost an engagement around 10-15m on the last map because I didn't have the money left over for the grip(or I forgot maybe both).
How can you call an engagement on the difference of a gun grip in a game with loose vr controls

>>513970586
The 74M grip you can buy makes the gun usable. It actually makes the gun not spazz out with the recoil with a tighter recoil pattern. Not talking about literal physical grip which is what I think you misinterpreted there.

>>513970920
No I meant the grip in-game. The gun must be totally unusable without the grip, so why did you use that gun?

>>513971913
Because it has the fastest TTK of most of the rifles with the sole exception of the AK12. I used the AK12 a lot regularly back in the day because it also had the same issue without grip, with grip it's deadly and I practiced with it whenever I could. There were about 3 other people last week who made comments that the 74M was terrible and it was probably because they didn't think to use the grip or weren't accustomed to the recoil a la AK12. I was using the 74M whenever possible in all the games today and it never failed me in most situations I won.

>>513972769
also the galil and scar has same TTK as well. I had a lot of luck with Galil last week too but I didn't buy it at all this week. If I didn't get the 74M I was buying ump/mp5 and never cared much for trying out the scar(also same TTK).

>>513937012
thank ya'll for coming!
(god i gotta get better at framing shots)

see those who can make it next week where im undecided but may possibly continue a theme of sorts

>>513972769
a sense of mastery because you know the best part to boost the gun is nice
a gun being useless without the player knowing that one thing to use is bad
That's a pavlov vr problem

https://poal.me/gf0z1o

So I finished up my first VRchat avatar and uploading it, it gave me a shitload of errors like too many bones, too many polygon, can't be used as fallback etc etc.

Should I bother fixing up at least one low poly avatar without all the errors or is it all wasted time and effort?

>>513975654

post errors, it says that about most booth avatars with bits. Click auto-fix everywhere it shows up, use vrcfury and d4rkavataroptimizer

hey FAGGOTS

do you like to RAMBLE about your AUTISTIC HOBBY but feel it's too awkward or imposing to just start rambling in your day to day conversations?
well you definitely can at the VRG TED TALK EVENT
>Do I need to prepare anything
You probably should be prepared generally speaking
>How would we present a power point
For now Youtube video on a throwaway account that you can just pause between each slide.
>when?
March 15th

>>513975842
yeah i did clicked all the auto-fix shit already
friend said its fine as long as I play on PC

>>513976186
wheres the lights

>>513976365
I'm not sure what you're asking of me here.

>>513976186
Optimize your shit

>>513976526
he's only interested in gooning with you, that's it.

>>513976186
Use d4rk's, you dumb nigger. You don't have to be autistic about optimization like some people here would want, but do the bare minimum.

>>513976526

vrcfury -> sps

>>513976717
no need to be rude now I'm just asking because I want to do the minimum

>>513976846
uhh
later im trying to figure this out first

>>513977251

d4rk's will perform a lot of optimization automatically, read the docs for it.

>>513977574
yeah that module wasnt included in the explanation my buddy gave me
thanks for pointing it out

>>513975845
I’m not confident I have something to share specifically well

>>513978384
Do you have a hobby that you really like that you could introduce to people?

>>513978508
i just play video games all day

>>513975845

payday 2 is too much fun. also, somebody recognized it for the first time

imagine if we had broad adoption and cod and battlefield had vr modes
niggas would be like "HOW ARE YOU MOVING YOUR ARMS LIKE DAT?????" and stuff

>>513977940

In the OP: https://rentry.org/4tzqs

>>513978556
Is there a video game that you like in particular?
Also you know you don't HAVE to present if you don't feel up for it
This isn't a class project. It's an opportunity for some people to talk about fields of their interest
It can be funny or interesting or help us in our own lives, but regardless it's important that you have fun with it as well

>>513978508
I do unity and blender map making and avatar work and events. That’s my main hobby right now.

I can also ramble on about Haruhism and how everyone should be a part od SOS brigade I guess? And watch haruhi suzuimya anime and for sure the disappearance movie

>>513978794
You can even do real fucking Akimbo and shoot in two different directions with it from what I've seen.
I need to download payday2 again and give it a try. Haven't played in years. PD3 was such a fucking disappointment.

>>513979786
it just so happens the game (modded) ticks all my boxes for the BASIC vr features a shooter should have.
manual reloading - yes, although you dont need to rack the slides (this is.. fine. it would be cool if they implemented it but oh well.)
recoil (all stats affected by attachments too so it doesnt make them obsolete) - yes, there's a mod for it
2 handing weapons, especially rifles - yes
smooth locomotion and turning - yes (turning with a mod)

hell the game even has functional optics, which i did not expect at ALL.
it ticks all my "i aint playing it if it doesnt have it" boxes and the rest is just a very solid game underneath. great fun. :)

>>513851028
Anime instance is up, starting in 15 minutes or so. You can join off Silencen or try the link:
https://vrch.at/axase37d

Pypy is here come dance!
https://vrch.at/mrcu6gba

>>513979707
3d scan this figurine now!

>>513958761
questlet detected

>>513979707
I'd love to hear about it!

god damn pigs, luigi, trying to take our liqour

>>513975845
Hell yeah. I remember the back to school event we did years ago like this. Make the map in a place with pens and I'll just draw diagrams and flow charts as I go.

>>513983473
>>513979707
Also forgot to mention since you mentioned
>For now Youtube video on a throwaway account that you can just pause between each slide.
That's really hard to do without using this specific world slide thingy for UDON.

Here use this please
https://uezo.booth.pm/items/4141632
https://uezo.booth.pm/items/4141632
Hopefully it still works, you can check if it does. It's essentially just a video player that has a button that skips at specific "time" lengths of the udonsharp video player

>>513986705
woops meant to reply to >>513975845

>>513986705
see
https://note.com/uezo/n/n8626546391fc

So as long as you make your video slides into like 5 second chunks per page you can have it skip it skip every 5 seconds with an offset of 0.5 seconds to be sure that the page is "loaded"

>decimate the shit out of the model
>still 50k polygons
am i doing this wrong
the textures already showing issues
and i cant decimate the hair because of shapekeys? I don't know any of this shit reee

>>513989019
why does your hair need shape keys
just bake a base out of whatever slop edits you made out of the sliders and settle it that way

>>513989019
It's fine to ignore the poly limit. Don't decimate unless you really need to for something that's like 150k+ tris.

>>513989602
I don't know i dont even know what a shapekey is

>>513990228
you have much to learn

>>513989019
50k polygons is already pretty good though

Just played Waltz of the Wizard. Really fun game with lots of secrets to find. You can also talk to the head which is pretty rad. VR + AI is the future

>>513980647
See you thursday

>>513975845
im gonna have to pull out this banger?

>>513992671
The head skull is linked to AI like skyrim mods?

for some reason i'm getting this, my avatar isn't huge, it's not over the texture filesize limit, I have read/write checked, never seen this before. Any help?

>>513994026
It seems to be using Facebook’s voice recognition AI. You can talk to it but it’s pretty limited to the number of topics you can talk about. I’m not sure if there’s a filter on what you can ask or if it just has a lot of presets that makes it seem like you’re having a convo with it

>>513993031
second from the left is cute

people keep talking about being able to refit clothes but whenever I try I get horrible wrinkles and triangular bits sticking out so I try and smooth it and it loses detail and looks awful, is there something i'm missing?

>>513994970

lattice deformation I think? Someone told me but I haven't tried clothes yet

>>513994970
It's an art. In general you should use pose mode on the outfit to get it into roughly the right position and have the pivot points of the bones in the same spot, then use cage deform to get it into roughly the right scale for your body shape, then use fgrab in sculpt mode to get it closer to your skin, and finally use proportional edit to touch up the last little bits. After that it's weight painting hell (which shouldn't be too bad because of the first step) and you're done.
Cheating mode is to just do the first two steps and then delete your body and just use the clothing's armature.

>>513995606
I guess i'll have to figure out cage deform.

Mainly my annoyances are trying to make it fit in shape and stuff like grab sclupt and proportional editing fucking it up.

>>513850329
today's meme gamedev progress. I made a title screen of sorts, with the godot's extremely nice looking voxelGI and volumetric fog. It doesn't work quite as well in VR unfortunately; the godot XR devs are paid by meta so they only ever test shit on mobile shaders. 'zucced again.

I also made o3-mini-high improve the particle collision detection thing to detect multiple targets (you can see the debug texture in the back light up red as the particles hit the boxes). It does still take some coaxing but it, combined with claude (using it through cursor like a true modern slopdev) are still much better at shitting out gdscript without me having to go read through the docs to find out what it calls stuff.

The desk and stuff in front is prototype set dressing from the other dev I'm working with. We're still not sure what exactly the aesthetics for the final game will be yet. the game mechanics of directing particles around should be pretty flexible though.

>>513995994
nice

>>513851028
>>513980407
DEEPEST
LORE

>>513995994
Sneeeeeeed

Milltina SUCKS.

You can barely tell these two guys apart and because it's the same booth, talk about regression.

>>513996674
boobs too big

huh

>>513996674
boobs too small

>>513995606
the weight painting for outfit refits is made easy by the free Robust Weight Transfer plugin

>>513997395
this but with milltina in this >>513996674
(the male)

>>513990596
That's probably just his base, not including any outfits.

>>513980647
>>513993031
>>>>>https://vrch.at/mrcu6gba
pypy video
https://files.catbox.moe/m5kbto.mp4

I've gotten my hands on a Pico 4 a couple of weeks back and I've been spending more time (and money) trying to set it up to play PCVR properly and comfortably than actually playing much, is VD actually worth a shit or should I just stick with Pico Connect?

>>514000735
can i opt out of the video

>>514001298
not any of them but you can probably ask the recorder to block your avatar

>>513997395
>No thumbstick
I sleep

Please explain to me how pretending to be an anthro in VR is any worse than pretending to be a woman in VR

>>514002000
you're pretending to be an animal instead of a sex object
in the hierarchy an animal is below a sex object

>>514002000
You're like cockroaches. Let one in, sure, he's like your best friend during lockdown. Now, there's another, and another, another... suddenly, you hate furries like you hate blacks.

>>514002000
Here we go with the furry mental gymnastics bait again. Delusional if you think using an avatar = pretending to be. Projecting your own mental illness on everyone else. But even if it is, anthro = your disgusting fetish, woman = not a disgusting fetish
>no but girls aktually ARE a fetish because-
no, kill yourself

>>513872762
I use it to turn pseudo code into real code
i'm still doing the actual coder it's doing the intern level shit for me
programming is about logic not how well you understand some other fallible individuals api

>>513978794
Is there a way to unlock all the DLC without getting flagged?

>>514004946
You can barely speak english, monkey.

>>514001298
are you in the video

>>514006897
no asking for the future

>>513997395

>>514007027
both na and eu pypy records and there's no nametags shown
you could ask the recorder and then try to dance on the side
if you're worried about your dancing, fear not, check the video again, it's very casual

>>513997395
the only use of this is flipping the finger

>>514008436
and grabbing things
and poking things
and squeezing things
in vr

>>514008698
no i just would show everyone the middle finger every single day

>>514008853
10-4! This is my favorite vr gesture.

>>514008030
Kek. Not quite though omniman. They can finger their waifu without looking at their hands

>>513980337
You can touch the ammo UI at your belt to reload wich is faster, but you can also do manual reloads if you want. I just touch the belt instead of manual reloading, game gets super hectic at harder difficulties.

My retarded ass is just starting to figure out how to do shit in Unity.
I'm using D4rk Avatar Optimizer because I can't into Blender, and it's default behavior works pretty well.
I still need to reduce the amount of physbone components from 20 to 16 to go from Poor rating to Medium.
Is it worth the effort? Every time I try optimizing things manually, something breaks.

>>514010073
https://vrwiki.info/wiki/Avatar_Optimization
https://vrwiki.info/wiki/Booth_Optimization_example

>>514010073
without seeing your avatar, I say delete some of the jiggly hair or breast dynamic bone components. Try removing small bones on the tips that don't give much jiggle movement

>>514010073
Remove components for stuff that really doesn't need much movement like ribbons
Combine physbones components with the same values to a single physbone on the parent bone.

>>514009562
i use manual reloads because i am god's strongest larper.

>>514010147
>>514010353
>>514010505
>For hair, or a skirt, you can create a root object that all the skirt bones attach to, and then putting the component on that. The component will transform all child bones of the root bone affected.
Looks like the hair is the main offender. It has a component for each strand of hair.
I will try this. Thanks, anons.

>>514011019
Yes, if you enjoy it, enjoy it. I used to do it in the beginning until I couldnt keep up when doing it.

>>514010073
>because I can't into Blender
god that's unattractive.

>>513979786
Akimbo is very god in VR as you can aim in two directions at once, killing twice the police compared to desktop.
You can also do an objective interact with one hand and shoot with the other, carry a bag and shot etc.
It adds alot, Baby deagle or Glock are my go to akimbo pistols.

>have issues with my model after polygon decimation
>ask my JP friend
>he sends me this and tells me not to care as long as your model is under 100mb nobody gives a fuck

I find this cultural dynamic really strange.
On one hand you got 4chan who would be the epitome of "I don't give a shit you stupid nigger here have my 500mb slampig with 500k polygon and 50 materials" but are in fact "optimize your avatar pls or I get frame drops :( "
And then you have the japanese who you'd think would act like "Oh, I need to optimize my avatar so everyone can enjoy it and we promote harmony in our culture" but act more like "Fuck you, everyone plays on PC anyway whittu piggu outto"

>>514012373
The japanese know they have fast computers and internet so they use that to gatekeep foreigners

>>514012373
It's why japanese line up for the chance to buy a 5090, they'd rather do that than open blender

>>514012373
if your avatar has more than 10k triangles, one material, one 2k texture, and 4 phys bones it is because you have shit taste and are lazy and I never ever want to see your second life looking repacked frakenstein

>>514012942

>>514012942
post an avatar that fits that

>>514012373
JPs have always been like that. 2018 Booth was full of models under 20k but with a shitton of skinned meshes and materials when most people used just one mesh (even if that was only because it was the default with CATS Blender plugin).

>>514013010
several of the quest 2 compatible standard avatars do

>>514013212
can we consider people that play on the quest 2 natively even as human?

>>514013010
My fallback

>>514013010

>>514010073
>Is it worth the effort?

Unless you're only going to public club worlds then no it isn't.

>>514012373
Yeah they either have a high end computer or a dogshit laptop meant for eroge.

Hey prophet, enjoying your anti-masturbation cross?

vroom

This friday, at 18:30 UTC, we will be doing some Payday 2 VR!
Look at OP re entry for mods, have it installed, big lobby will be used, hope it works.
Difficulty will be very hard/Mayhem so I recommend you play a bit and read up on guides for weapons / classes. Lvl 60+ infamy 0 should be a good baseline.

>>514020576
>Look at OP re entry for mods

>not in OP
>manually type in rentry.co/pd2
>