/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1707

Ancient Dungeon VR multiplayer lobby will be hosted today at 19:00 UTC.
April 1st update added new, gorilla tag style, locomotion option.

>>520375384 (OP)
Thread maker-kun, I appreciate your service but for fucks sake, order the multiplayer events by day of the week.

>>520375860
I spent a minute scripting it kek

EU Assetto Corsa: Every other Monday at 19:00 UTC/20:00 CET
EU Pavlov: Tuesday 19:00 UTC (20:00 CET)
NA Assetto Corsa: Wednesday at 8PM ET
NA Walkabout Minigolf: Thursday at 10PM ET
NA Pavlov: Every other Friday night, watch the thread for exact times
EU VRFPS: Friday at 19:00 GMT (game varies so watch the thread)
SEA/EU Walkabout Minigolf: Saturday at 13:00 UTC/11:00PM AEST
EU Bonelab: Saturday at 19:00 UTC

I miss my VR friends.

>>520372218 (Cross-thread)
But you can't use your hands to do anything else like press buttons

>>520377558
>can't press buttons if you're wearing a thin glove
obviously the little rubber nipple-globule-things go in reverse, facing your skin.
it's not a ribbed for her pleasure setup

>>520376556
virtual friends aren't real friends, touch grass.

Sounds kinda shallow of you

>>520335958 (Cross-thread)
>>520349091 (Cross-thread)
>>https://vrch.at/hcjstbh2
https://streamable.com/d3tfmv
na pypy video

>>520378140
WRONG!

>>520378948
if im not at pypy on monday, consider me dead.

Is this better?


Monday:
19:00 UTC / 20:00 CET; EU Assetto Corsa; Every other Monday

Tuesday:
19:00 UTC / 20:00 CET; EU Pavlov

Wednesday:
20:00 ET; NA Assetto Corsa

Thursday:
22:00 ET; NA Walkabout Minigolf

Friday:
Varies; NA Pavlov; Every other Friday night, watch the thread for exact times
19:00 GMT; EU VRFPS; Game varies, watch the thread

Saturday:
13:00 UTC / 23:00 AEST; SEA/EU Walkabout Minigolf
19:00 UTC; EU Bonelab

>>520387000
TOO LATE NIGGER

>>520376316

>>520387064
literally the same issue with the weekday not being visible enough
my way would give a clear indicator on the weekday, as ell as making it easier for future events to be sorted in

>>520387000
I like this one better. Easier to read at a glance for potential newfags.

>>520387194
It adds a LOAD of lines though. Even without the gaps.

>>520387246
>LOAD of lines
yeaaaah fine, you're right...
Can we at least do this for the "regular event" rentry?
I'll even format it

>>520387325
Up to you dude you're the one doing it. Take feedback if you want.

>>520387000
>>520387246

Monday: 19:00 UTC / 20:00 CET; EU Assetto Corsa; Every other Monday
Tuesday: 19:00 UTC / 20:00 CET; EU Pavlov
Wednesday: 20:00 ET; NA Assetto Corsa
Thursday: 22:00 ET; NA Walkabout Minigolf
Friday: Varies; NA Pavlov; Every other Friday night, watch the thread for exact times
Friday: 19:00 GMT; EU VRFPS; Game varies, watch the thread
Saturday: 13:00 UTC / 23:00 AEST; SEA/EU Walkabout Minigolf
Saturday: 19:00 UTC; EU Bonelab

You dont need to add extra lines, just put the day of the week first in each line

>>520387767
I'd do
DAY, GAME, TIME, NOTES

>>520387839
Then do it
I just edited the one with too many lines back down to show its not necessary

Contractors lobby today at 18:00 UTC/ 20:00 CET

Mod list:
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/q-bo1-nuketown
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/bazaar
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/hothtrenches
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/swrc-hangar
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/q-bo2-standoff
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/q-mw19-scrapyard
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/q-bo2-raid
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/q-mw2-salvage
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/q-mw2-bailout

https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/gsac-classic
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/clonewars
https://mod.io/g/contractors/m/ninjaclassic1

>>520387398
My proposal for the rentry:
https://rentry.org/eyqpa79p

>>520387839
Monday - EU Assetto Corsa; 19:00 UTC / 20:00 CET; every other Monday
Tuesday - EU Pavlov; 19:00 UTC / 20:00 CET
Wednesday - NA Assetto Corsa: 20:00 ET
Thursday - NA Walkabout Minigolf; 22:00 ET
Friday - NA Pavlov; Time varies; every other Friday night,
Friday - EU VRFPS; 19:00 GMT; Game varies, watch the thread
Saturday - SEA/EU Walkabout Minigolf; 13:00 UTC / 23:00 AEST
Saturday - EU Bonelab; 19:00 UTC

I think some of these times are incorrect now that daylight savings time is in effect. EU Pavlov is usually at 19:00 UK time, which always seems to cause some confusion and should be 18:00 UTC/ 20:00 CET until October. Seems EU VRFS is the same >>520388118 but maybe not always?

>>520389149
you should put the NA times in 12hr format desu

>>520389149
you should put the NA times relative to when mcdonalds stops serving the breakfast menu

>>520389149
My Friday lobbies have always been at 20:00 my time, so they are at 18:00 UTC after the EU switched to Summer time.

>>520389149
This is so much better.

>>520389576
Wednesday - NA Assetto Corsa: 9.5 hours after breakfast cutoff
Thursday - NA Walkabout Minigolf; 11.5 hours after breakfast cutoff
Friday - NA Pavlov; Time varies; every other Friday night, ~10+ hours after breakfast cutoff

>>520389149
>>520387767
>>520387000
Add SEA Tuesday Game Night 6PM JST! Pleasu

>>520390574
Hi Yuki!
is it correctly placed in here?
https://rentry.org/eyqpa79p

>>520390818
Nope! It's 06:00 pm JST = 09:00 am UTC

>>520390990
welllllll fuck
corrected it!

>>520391151
Sankyu~

Stop using anything but UTC on the internet ffs.
Use it with your grandma.

>>520391265
This is an american site. The only universal time is one that all americans know, and that's when mcdonalds starts serving burgers

>>520391398
McDonalds is 24/7 in first world countries, retard.

Every hour is burger time in America.

>>520391587
>he doesn't have this shitty mcd breakfast menu in morning hours where they replace chicken nugget wraps with nasty egg wraps and refuse to serve anything but mcmuffins

lucky

>>520387000
You all forgot the summer time switch

>>520392064
I really wish I had a burger now.

>>520391587
my local one closes at 2 am

>>520391587
You would know if you actually lived in said first world country and had access to said mcdonalds that mcdonalds starts serving burgers at burger time, after they close the breakfast menu. Once they come to india you'll find out too.

Use only CET for eu timezone thats over 80% of people who participate

VRChat turned my brain into a 2000 cylinder diesel engine what the heck. . . just kidding im braindead, I just took ai and fed it my content from vrc hehehe
https://youtu.be/Oct3hdu4O7w

>>520394416

>>520394715
cool i like it

>>520394839
lol

Hi, anon!
Reminder than UNFF will be hosted in roughly four hours at 21:00 CEST.
As always I hope to see you there!

>>520390105
please do this please please please please PLEASE DO THIS for at least one thread but then the next baker will forget to replace it to normal and we'll be 'stuck' with it permanently all according to keikaku (keikaku means plan btw)[/spoiler]

>>520396142
Hi anon!

>>520390105
you could measure hours in equivalent of minimum wage divided by a price of one big mac. big mac index is a scientific measure, after all, no one should mind until they're stupid or something

>>520398731
>until they are stupid or something

>>520398959
hey, never said i'm particularly smart

>>520399056
guess we cant do that index then because you're already until stupid...it was fun while it lasted anon but thanks for RUINING IT FOR US

>>520399296
only proper until stupids would evalutate the proposed solution to a problem through their perception of a person who came up with it. this is getting dangerous though, so if you want to bully me any further, we have to move to trash

>>520399685
pretend i posted this image again >>520398959
as a way to go "wat the DUCk did i just read
this is a me thing this time though i am wakarimasen as fuck right now to your post

>>520401354
>corrupted peasant
wtf thats me

>>520401354
that game is dogshit

>>520401896
It's fun. Asset and story wise it's uninspired and bland (Except the boss fights) but the RPG elements are all there.

>>520401896
>the RPG elements are all there.
nah, it's dogshit
retarded level locks on items, irrelevant stats, mindless grind
oh, you are going to the higher level area because the game is piss easy? that's too bad I guess you are not using any drops

dogshit

>>520402404
to >>520402053 of course.

hehe don't hit on me silly boys~

so real shrimpfie

>>520403836
*hits u*

>>520404029
*moans*

>EU hours

>>520404584
americans woke up

Alright, I did another search but based on the image dimensions and found the vr edit. Here you go >>520307531 (Cross-thread)

>>520405079
too soon bro.

>>520405079
>golf not mentioned once
I think golf bros are immune to the slippery slope.

>>520405948
OH NO NO NO BROS

>>520406109
This looks shooped, I can tell by the pixels.

EU Assetto Corsa: European Racing club
Race 94

18:00 UTC 20:00 CEST, 14th of April.

We are going back to the past. To France of 1967, Albi. For one of a kind, two class race, Shelby Cobras and Lotus Type 49s! Both are great cars, but one is lighter than the other. Both are total death mobiles. What will you choose?

1 hour practice
12 minutes qualifiers
14 laps race

Afterwards, I'd love to explore a new freeroam map: Santa Monica Mountains. It's a pretty big photogrammetrized map, with multiple spawn points. We're gonna do a little series, exploring areas of different spawn points. This week: Point F: The Snake Carspot. We have 5 spawn points in total.

Assetto - can be played with wheel, controller, or steam-vr-wheel addon, it doesn't matter, we will all have fun driving together. If you just bought Assetto - grab Assetto Corsa Content Manager - a better launcher and mod manager: https://assettocorsa.club/content-manager.html To install mods: just drag and drop zip files from mega onto the Content Manager windows and click on the hamburger menu on top right. Highly recommend installing stable custom shader patch and 7-zip plugin in Content manager.

For communication we'll use mumble at voice.vrg.party port 64738, as it doesn't need any registrations or logins.
https://www.mumble.info/

I can't recommend enough Crew Chief
https://thecrewchief.org/
He's a helpfull AI fellow in the pits who'll provide you information about your car, your opponents, yell at you or try to encourage you. And most importantly, he will spot for you, in case you have a car in you blind spot.

UI radar are immersion breaking and basically cheating, but this guy will tell you verbally if someone is there on your right. Download, install, select Assetto Corsa in game list, press "Start application" and it should work!

MODS: https://mega.nz/folder/jroAxYiI#nqZcKohBeiI5xLWGoeiJgA

>>520402404
it's the same as diablo but with a bit more action.
>level locks on items
D'uh it's an RPG, you need to level up (it's piss easy)

>>520406351
WITH EVERY POST YOU MAKE I GROW STRONGER ANON

>>520406109
immediately after mahjong..

>>520406754
I yield, time to get a new golphsona as a girl and start descending the slope.

>>520407178
WHY CANT I LOOK LIKE THIS IN WALKABOUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>520405705
How many people actual got banned then an hero'd though?

>>520388118
This is happening in one hour

>>520406692
it's not an rpg, it's dogshit, you human cattle
mindless trash looter gameplay with drops you can't even use

>>520408097
fitered

>>520408219
tfw too high iq too enjoy dogshit games

>>520408432
I WANT TO USE TOP LEVEL GEAR ON LEVEL ONE RIGHT NOW!!!!

>>520398684
>Goofy Swedish man
>filename is goofy mexican man
How do you fuck up a filename this bad?

>>520408713
THATS PART OF THE JOKE YOU RETARD BRAINDEAD BUMBLEFUCK STILTSKIN
I BET YOURE FINNISH TOO

>>520408597
NOOOO, I DON'T WANT TO USE GEAR DROPPED BY THE ENEMIES I KILL!!!

souls nigga vs diablo nigga

>>520388118
I hate the contractors mod installation process so much.

>>520409821
preach it sis

>>520409821
and then on top of that the game doesn't even work half of the time for me when modded

>>520402404
>retarded level locks on items, irrelevant stats, mindless grind
Yep that's RPG elements for you

>>520409821
It works flawlessly for me when I anchor a virtual window with the thread open, boot up the game early and select each mod using the ingame workshop. Avoid interrupting large loadout mods or quitting while they're downloading or it will be more likely to corrupt.

>>520388118
Awesome, see you there

>>520388118
Lobby is up
Join Omega
Password is 1874

>>520414669
>spawn killed one the first frame repeatedly
Yeah, gonna skip this one.

>>520402053
The boss fights in legendary tales are the worst part

>>520420371
boss fights are great and creative. unless youre shit at it

>>520420931
Name one great and creative boss.

I remember stupid shit like "lol goblins and one has a lot of hp" and "parry me 20 times also i spawn a buddy"

I thought the general exploring was okayish, but the boss fights felt like a different, much shittier game. Especially in multiplayer.

>>520375715
Lobby up.

>>520396142
Instance is up!
https://vrch.at/82z4ujuq

>>520388175
Made some changes and threw it into the existing rentry here: https://rentry.org/mxotqvmh
It's mostly formatting differences, I think grouping by region and putting event name before the time still makes more sense. Used different headers to remove a little empty space and try to keep each region visible without scrolling.
Left irregular stuff in the normal list since most of them were duplicated in yours, but I do think it could make sense for monthly events.
No idea if the EU times are accurate, I used what you had except for a couple things that got posted this thread with different times. I'll try to update as I see stuff posted.

>>520414669
Good Contracting Contractors

>>520388175
>>520424597
Dug through the past weeks worth of threads for times, so the EU times should be accurate now too except for book club

good contracting in spirit contractors (I was not there)

epic contracting

I hate sticky walls when I try to get my contracting work done.

Why are your walls sticky?

ez win

>>520426452
Don't know, it's that one map where I get stuck in the walls all the time.

>>520422081
We changed instances due to some people having FPS issues.
https://vrch.at/hhc5yd53

>>520407178
what game is this?

I realised my true self was a floating head with one floating hand so I have been removing as much of my body as possible to transition to who I am

>>520427206
why is that teto communist

WHERES THE SOCKNESS MONSTER POST

>>520389149
Monday - EU Assetto Corsa: 18:00 UTC / 20:00 CEST (every other week)
Tuesday - EU Pavlov: 18:00 UTC / 20:00 CEST
Wednesday - NA Assetto Corsa: 8PM ET
Thursday - NA Walkabout Minigolf: 10PM ET
Friday - NA Pavlov: 11PM ET (every other week)
Friday - EU VRFPS: 18:00 UTC / 20:00 CEST (Game varies, watch the thread)
Saturday - SEA/EU Walkabout Minigolf: 12:00 UTC / 23:00 AEDT
Saturday - EU Bonelab: 18:00 UTC

I think these should all be correct, but SEA/EU Golf and Bonelab are guesses since those haven't been posted yet.

>>520428178
Was in the last thread >>520339491 (Cross-thread)

>>520428406
t-thanks

>>520428228
Sea/EU Golf looks about right.

>>520427790
Mobile slop, Birdie Crush

>>520428228
As a general rule, boners don't move with daylight savings. It's always 19:00 UTC for ease of use. It might change at some point, but as it is for now, feel free to just write static 19:00 and call it a day.

>>520428052
But how do you do the floating?

>>520429284
I am floating and if you say otherwise and point out that I am not then I get sad and you're a bigot

>>520428754
>>520429058
Monday - EU Assetto Corsa: 18:00 UTC / 20:00 CEST (every other week)
Tuesday - EU Pavlov: 18:00 UTC / 20:00 CEST
Wednesday - NA Assetto Corsa: 8PM ET
Thursday - NA Walkabout Minigolf: 10PM ET
Friday - NA Pavlov: 11PM ET (every other week)
Friday - EU VRFPS: 18:00 UTC / 20:00 CEST (Game varies, watch the thread)
Saturday - SEA/EU Walkabout Minigolf: 12:00 UTC / 23:00 AEDT
Saturday - EU Bonelab: 19:00 UTC

With the Bonelab time corrected and SEA/EU Golf time confirmed, I think this should be good.

>>520429852
i feel like we made the op better

ITR2 update!
Loads of fixes, complete weapon and gear rebalance as well as progression, one new zone, forest made easier.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2307350/view/541101973283275456?l=english

>>520430847
worth buying now?

>>520430387
Good effort. One could debate whether it makes more sense to list games and days, or days and games, as first one could make more sense if a new person wants to learn what we're playing, but I think it's an improvement given the amount of lobbies happening through week.

WIP PSVR2 eyetracking on PC

found this in old folder

>>520437713
Eeyup those were the days

>>520421859
gg and thanks for hosting!
Sadly I was dumb and didn't take any screenshots because I was too mesmerized being a monke and flying through the air.
Really happy and glad that we got lucky with the invincibility potion on the last phase on the boss when we all were low hp, truly a perfect run of good items and lucky potions.

>>520439675
I got hard filtered by the monkey movement.
Got sick after 50 minutes of jumping around and then had to play seated for the rest of the lobby.

Is there gonna be drunk pavlov tonight?

>>520442769
Host was asking about something for it in the last thread >>520316646 (Cross-thread), so I'm assuming it's still on.
It'd be nice to see some kind of actual announcement/reminder post though.

>>520394839
what if we kissed in vr at chuck's

Drunk Pavlov at 11ET or in 4 hours!!!

can we have a mystery science theater event where anons submit a 5-10 minute long piece of media and 3 random anons become the gang talking over it

it would be incredibly cringe at certain points and some anons would not mesh with others well or be too talkative or too quiet but theres potential desu

maybe submit preset group of 3s to randomly select a group per video with the intention that the video you myster science theater over isn't the one you submitted

>>520452972
https://youtu.be/LGpLQEVj4Fo
for any anon who is uninitiated to the kino of olde
intended format template starts around 6:15

>>520452972
Just host a movie instance instead. That's essentially what this is. This just can't work with short video clips.

>>520453314
i mean sure technically speaking but the intent is to listen to anons creative nature and commentary at silly things, giving them a spotlight to do so if they choose
people talk over regular movies all the time to varying degrees of social acceptedness but this is literally built for it

>>520453502
>>520453314
to counter the video clips being too short maybe do a full olde movie but swap anons out every so often depending on how many are queued to participate...?

>>520453860
Maybe a tap-in/tap-out system like some improv groups do? You can give up your commentator seat to let another anon join, or the audience can kick you off if you're cringe/hogging the spotlight.

>>520455494
i like that idea
imagine the shitposting when people get boo'd offstage it'll be glorious

>>520432227
No

>>520455494
do it rumble royale style, longest lasting funnyman wins

>>520455494
nta but it seems like this would have the potential to get mean, we've got a lot of autists and I wouldn't want anyone's feelings hurt so much that they ragequit, even if cringe.

Im back with another vrchat anime music video!
https://youtu.be/oLtRLP5bJ9I
I hope some of you can relate to this.

>>520460898
Beautiful stuff anon, keep up the good work.

>>520460898
concept and art is good but the lyrics are way too abstract

workout up
join/add ElfMom
or join https://vrch.at/wjaj877n

>>520405079
thanks.

>>520460898
>aislop
damn we at the bottom of the barrel lately

>>520465086
and demand that they draw full anime animations by hand

>EU

>>520467421
what is the YIIK guy doing with a furry?

>it’s ok guys he says nigger

>>520471272
z post an invite link

>>520471554
https://vrch.at/a629z333

just for you faggot

>>520472782
hey can you tell that miku that i like her glasses ty

Drunk Pavlov is starting NOW. Heres how to get in: Server name is Shitposting therapy addiction center. click this to get in https://letmein.vrg.party/

>>520473124
he sai
>No way!

>>520473643
Yes way!!

>>520473124
thanks i grew them myself

>>520302626 (Cross-thread)
who's this?

>>520473694
>>520473938

>>520473938
>>520474245
very cool keep it up

any karaoke after paavlov?

>>520477760
yeah its on same group as usual

>>520477760
he doesn't know about the post lobby bouncing and moan very silly style instance OH NO NO NO!!1

>>520472782
i really like this screenshot from a composition and artistry perspective

i sing da protomen

>>520422081
first game still going. West 3 honba 2

manual mahjong 3/4 come join.
https://vrch.at/88mdvvrz

>>520483804
bump

>>520479554

>>520483804
whats different between manual mahjong and normal mahjong

>>520473304
>another episode of C laying on the ground with a gay automatic rifle camping a point

>>520485570
normal is basically auto: think mjs. manual is you do everything yourself. After round table shuffles. that's about it.

>>520485528

>>520487018

>>520465086
That specific one has been referenced from anon’s own VR avatars and worlds he created himself. There’s a lot more effort and self expression there than just prompting from text.

>>520487343

>>520487343

>>520487924

>>520488357
same same, but different...

>>520488436

>>520488796

>>520488796
It's him! It's Anonymous!

>>520489198
No! I'm Anonymous!

>>520478536

>>520489198

Does anyone else keep getting disconnected from the instance they're in?

>>520489174
Wait, Snacks is here? Holy shit.

>>520490221
kinoe

>>520460898
Is this touhou? Has Linkin park Music Video energy. I like it

>>520490526
yeah da real one!

>>520491110

>>520491793

>>520492145

>>520375384 (OP)
>>519960295 (Cross-thread)
https://files.catbox.moe/2bfyo5.rar
Here you go vro, have an eggplant

>>520492307

3080 vs the 3080ti? is there a big different in performance here

>>520493258

>>520493425
yeah

what happened to the days when people were connecting two video cards together

>>520493430

>>520494306

aaaaaaa im missing kinooke

>>520495538
>>520495696
sad...

>>520493425
Get the best you can afford. You should be looking at higher tier cards.

>>520493425
3090 is the only ampere card still worth getting
dont waste money on 3080

>>520493425
Get the best you can afford as one anon said
But also as another anon said, 3090 is way more worth it cause extra VRAM which is very important for VR especially VRC

Walkabout Mini Golf!
In 2hr 45 minutes! (1300 UTC +1)

>>520460898
Kino

>>520496206
Gyatt damn, you’re such a little sigma, I’d fanum tax you straight up, no cap! I'll be bombardiro crocodiro and you'll be a bambino de palestina

BONELAB MODPACKS

https://gofile.io/d/TroKjP
>new
core + worlds and avatars
>been there some weeks ago
worlds and avatars
>been there last week
just update package

APPDATA-MODS goes to C:\Users\<USER>\AppData\LocalLow\Stress Level Zero\BONELAB\Mods
MAIN GAME MODS goes to <your game installation folder>\Mods


See you at 19:00 UTC!

>>520499567
>>520500089
>>520496040
what about AMD equivalents

>>520504636
don't buy AMD for vr. The driver support isn't there. Best case is that it kinds of works. Some people report it works fine but they gloss over the hours of troubleshooting they do.

How fucked is it trying to convert Quest 3 into full body? I cannot justify buying a completely different set but I want to have it.

>>520505329
SlimeVR trackers

>>520505329
You have a few options

Best in slot: 2x 2.0 Lighthouses + 3x HTC 3.0 Trackers + probably another tracker for the headset but technically optional. Software support is good and stuff works reasonably well.
Cheapest: Homemade slimes. https://docs.slimevr.dev/diy/imu-comparison.html

Honorable mentions: uh, Haritora X?

Overall, if you like FBT you will be getting the HTC trackers eventually anyway because the slimes will drive you fucking insane

eye/face > fbt
prove me wrong
protip: you can't

im not a huge fan of face tracking because it often looks kinda weird and everyone seems to use the same prefab so there's lots of sameface

>>520505801
but then how will you have sex with other dudes with anime avatars

>>520505801
>t. fat

Did Trump do some fucking tariffs on VRChat's servers? Why the fuck have I been disconnecting nonstop tonight?

>vision pro's are selling for $1.5k on used market
hmmm
tempting

>>520507025
I still don't know what they're even useful for

>>520507025
not worth until it's under $1k imo
and even then it's like, the third-party support for steamVR and face/eye tracking better be worth it

>>520507093
best eye/face on the market by far
psvr2 controller support is coming in vision os 3.0
if only it had wifi7

>>520507485
Face/ eye tracking for what exactly?

>>520507485
>best eye/face on the market
...for Apple Facetime*

>>520507701
>>520508060
I don't know much about VP, but I saw some tutorials on how to route face tracking information to VRC from this headset. Been heavily considering it, but ended up choosing BSB2.

>>520508060
you know that it has ALVR and can be used for PCVR, right? With face/eye tracking forwarding and all that?

>>520507485
https://www.surreal-interactive.com/
There are SLAM tracked controllers for AVP already.

>>520509318
I know about that, but they are not very good.
PSVR2 controllers are the best vr controllers feature-wise.

>>520509125
I've already spoken to someone that bought an Apple Vision Pro under the illusion about ALVR's compatibility with it to turn it into a PCVR headset.
Their Apple Vision Pro has been collecting dust on a shelf for months now and they have nothing but bad things to say about ALVR.

>>520509716
>filtered by ALVR settings
Understandable actually

Walkabout Mini Golf!
Now! (1300 UTC+1)
Join Lobby 'vrg'

Try 'vrg1' if it's full!

>>520510318
Only setting I ever changed was the bit rate.

>>520510318
Honestly, knowing the person I heard it from you might be 100% correct.
The problem is I haven't heard from any other Apple Vision Pro owners...

As VDXR has shown it's not that hard to write an OpenXR PCVR streaming program.
If you don't have to support all the garbage systems and just hard focus on top of the line nvidia cards and one headset, you can make a streaming app which shits on everything else, aka best quality, lowest latency, feature support etc.

Basically, once again, the problem is 100% software.

>>520510529
IS THAT YOU TERRY

>>520504351
god i love bonering with the bros

>>520511229
if only every vr dev was like terry

>>520504636
>>520504694
Eh my old 6800xt felt pretty much the same as my current 3090. 7900xt had some VR-specific issues on launch that have supposedly long since been fixed.
Honestly if I weren't such a sucker for the various CUDA-powered toys on Nvidia's side I would have no qualms about going AMD.
Intel is the only one you really need to avoid.

>>520510346
Two crazy clutch shots

>>520515000
I'm messing around with Intel Arc A770 now - it works mostly fine for VR now, both VD and ALVR handle Intel encoders just fine, if only encoding is in question it even beats AMD. Your only problem is the actual performance of the cards, for VRC expect silky smooth 40FPS at most in any populated instance and don't even dream about showing all avatars.
Just keep in mind that only wireless, HTC and WMR headsets will work with Intel.

>>520516475
Crazy!

>>520504694
i bet you felt really smart typing this. youve seen 10 posts saying the same thing so of course you gotta CORRECT this UNIFORMED poster with your FACTS.

completely unrelated but im really happy with my honda, and ive heard lots of bad things about subarus having head gasket issues. i think it's time to give my valuable input on /o/ that you shouldn't ever buy any subaru because theyre known for that issue. another CORRECTION posted. god i love FACTS.

what? it hasn't been an issue for 2 decades? that cant possibly be true as my friend who has a volvo said its still a problem. another great day of being smarter than everyone.

>>520517117
>amd is fine for VR

>redditspacing
didn't read

>>520517117
okay go buy AMD for VR but don't say you weren't warned

works on my machine

>>520510346
Thanks for the host! We are all so good now

>>520516913
>jewtel arc
>for vr
if your golden standard is standalone slop or youre third worlder im sure arc is fine for pcvr

>>520517301
>>520517443
incomprehensible right? us nvidia sisters know AMD is terrible. haven't you seen the babeltech article??
surely there are no 6000/7000 series owners in this thread who play VR. even if there were, we cant trust their objective statements as we know much more about the state of AMD VR just from reading the thread.

>>520518121
>some HTC hmds don't work on 9070xt in full capacity due to yet again something being brokecn with DSC compression
>7900xtx still has wrong time to photon offsets in steamvr

yeaaaaaaa, that's just the tip of the iceberg
>inb4 it's htc and valves fault
but nvidias all work

all Nvidia drivers from this year have been terrible
and AMD drivers dont work well for VR, especially the new 9070 xt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBs9zFsmUmg

>>520516475

>>520504694
This message saved my life.

As an AMD GPU owner, I have no memories of any issues or troubleshooting in VR caused by my GPU. As I read this post I realized that just couldn't be the case, I must be glossing over hours of troubleshooting. Something must be wrong.

Learning of this I immediately went to the hospital, where they found that I hadn't received my required lobotomy issued to all consumers. We rushed to correct this and the procedure went great. Now I can recall all of the issues and troubleshooting. I've just trashed my AMD GPU and will drive to the nearest retailer where I will live in a tent until they have 5090 stock.

Thanks a bunch anon!

>boot steamvr
>get 1 weeks worth of steam messages notification blasting in my ear for 10 minutes straight

PORT YOUR SHIT TO OPENXR NOW YOU LAZY CUNTS
I'M SICK OF HAVING TO USE THAT BLOATWARE

I have a 5090/9800x3D and it works really good for streaming to my Q3 wirelessly

>>520519265
we're glad it worked on your machine, you can stop being obnoxious about it

>>520510529
ok but have they made the latency lower by a factor of 66% yet?

>>520518402
>but nvidias all work
Valve had to fix this exact issue in steamvr with 40 series GPUs in a patch years ago
they're just negligent about most issues, don't ever look at their issue trackers

>>520519289
time to start using monado, anon

>>520519984
compared to what?
cooked dogshit setups with mcdonalds wifi?

>>520509125
>$1.5k-3k hmd
>stuck with WiFi slop
man...

>>520520348
i'll take that as a no
tune in next year, folks!

>>520519984
Best case scenario with worst codec right now I'm getting 20ms. Normal usage with h265 10bits 200mbps 28-40~ depending on decode load (sweet spot is slightly below 150)
It's getting really fucking good now with a dedicated 6GHz network.

>>520487808
it just doesn't look very good is all

>>520520472
>I'm getting 20ms.
i doubt that
show me a high fps video

>>520520472
>10bit
>200mbps
oh no no no...
I assume that's with foveated encoding so you're at least not getting blotchy artifacts everywhere, surely?
>>520520610
>i doubt that
they probably just mean the network stack on its own and aren't including the display stack since VD doesn't display those estimates

>>520520732
he probably meant just the encoder.

>>520520841
encoder at 20ms would be unusable

>>520520732
even vd graph stats shouldn't be able to go as low as 20ms

>>520520841
28ms is definitely possible, motion-to-photon
but I never seen anyone going lower than that

>>520520919
some niggas here are allegedly playing at 80ms+ total

>>520519941
wow! you speak for the thread, i didn't realize. im so sorry. looks like they didn't forget your lobotomy at least.

>>520520732
encoding artifact are bad if i'm doing 100mbps h264 but for h265 at high bitrate you've really gotta look for them
as for the network it's 5/5/5 for low load h264 and 6/5/12 for h265

>>520521087
>but I never seen anyone going lower than that
vdxr, 120fps and no video buffering helps a ton
if I use steamvr + 90fps + buffering on it goes easily in the mid 40s

>>520521245
Just don't look up the benchmarks and you'll be fine

>>520521373
vd lies about latency in the graph
and no video buffering is also unusable, it jitters
and even then the lowest i got was 21ms (fake vd graph)

to get the real latency you need to record the screen with high speed camera, modern iphones support 240fps, and count the frames, there is no other way.

>>520521450
of course, the babeltech article must be preached to for all of time as it's impossible for anything to change ever. this is unfortunate for us nvidia sisters and the 5000 series, for which PCVR was broken on launch drivers. i will be sure to bring this up for more than 2 years.

>>520521797
Okay... Just continue to be mad and not have any kind of benchmarks or compatibility charts or anything.

>>520521641
yeah last time I checked the goblin says he queries some quest API to get the latency number on screen but at least
as for videobuffering I used to think the same when I was on my cheap wifi6 router but I upgraded recently and it's finally useable
like I used to get black bars following the edge of the screen as well as massive framedrops but not anymore

>the sky is green
>here read this link - it says the sky was green
>how do i know the sky is green? everyone just does ok
>no i haven't ever been outside to check
>if you went outside and the sky was blue it's just not ok

>>520522116
gay goblin is a faggot who lies all the time
he is not like that for nothing

it was empirically proven that he and, to the lesser extent, oculus link both lie about the latency

>>520522263
If you literally cannot find any sources that the sky is blue then it is not. Beliefs and biases are for the weak.

>>520522293
he is not called*

>latency
deckard solves this problem in 2 weeks

>>520522394
>if you are literally looking at the sky and it's blue, it's just not ok. you must be biased. please publish an article for me, someone who will never look at the sky and continue to tell people it's green either way

>>520522663
>latency is 2 weeks
man things are looking dire...

>>520522740
Then you just wrote down that the sky is blue and it's a source. Why are you so mad that your 'reality' cannot be documented?

>>520522845
cannot and are not are different retard-kun

Anyway on that note; if anyone has any ideas to benchmark VR on a expected/got kind of approach I think that'd be cool.
Best I got is a resolution-comparison where you take a game that has both flat and VR rendering modes, and render the same amount of pixels in each.
Or maybe some kind of curve where each available resolution is rendered (or a selection of them) for both modes, and plot the curves and see the difference that way.
I think it'd be good to actually have some data on this instead of relying on people that get mad when the product they own is disrespected.

>>520523893
Usually, when the game performs poorly, it's just a fault of braindead devs.
I don't see a reason for flat mode, but it's easily doable.
I was thinking about making something similar to gpuinfo.org but for openxr.

Anyway, you need a game. Then you can make a benchmark.
But we don't have games. Unity trash is kinda worthless.

Workout in 2 hours. We finally arrived in DST here in europe so times are back to normal for NAs.
Get your stuff charged and your water ready, we will be squatting lots.

>>520523893
what info would this really give you though? VR vs flat overhead?

the constant AMD shitflinging is largely the result of the current state of AMD VR driver and application support being a lot better than the "cultural" knowledge of general VR users. this is not super unreasonable as things were really really bad 3 years ago (driver stuttering issue, VRC video players, etc) which has stuck in most people's minds.
this contrasts with people who own AMD cards who really have had no major issues for almost 2 years, but there hasn't really been any widely known benchmarks or media reflecting this.
so in the thread people who have been on Nvidia for 3+ years see people using AMD as coping because there's no big public resource "proving" this isnt the case, then you have newer AMD users seeing objectively things work from a user perspective seeing the general consensus not reflect this.

more benchmarks are always good to inform buying decisions related to perf/price but im not sure that'll solve above

AMD are always a poornigger choice. The one gen amd could actually compete on the top-end, they decided to only release midrange cards.
Complete retards.

Benchmarks are also trash, because AMD driver pajeets just going to focus on them, while ignoring everything else, so benchmarks run well while the user experience is trash.

Basically fuck AMD. And fuck nvidia too if they repeat the blackwell fiasco for the next gen.
But overall, nvidia tax is still worth it.

>>520527273
>reddit spacing
>reddit opinions
go back

>>520527469
Where is the redditspacing, retard.
"Complete retards" and "But overall" have only one "/n".
Those are called paragraphs. Don't you dare call me a redditspacer.

>>520527704
one to three small sentences does not a paragraph make
overuse of commas as well by a large margin so its just niggerlicious to read your posts to begin with even without spacing your thoughts out for no reason

>>520528023
have anything else to say, amdpoor?

>>520516475
The spinning around shot gets 10/10 style points.

>>520528197
i feel sorry for you or hope that you scored a recent product from team green for MSRP
i'd suck their cock too if they actually sold products to consumers rather than paperlaunching vaporware for three generations straight

>>520528491
>i'd suck their cock too
yeah, you sure sound like a cocksucker
anyway, bought 4090 two years ago for msrp, sucks to be you (no pun intended), go get a job instead of seething here

amd sisters really quiet after being asked to get a job

>>520528793
>go get a job instead of seething here
oh don't worry I make plenty, don't need a new job
I'm just not gonna fork over $2-6k for a GPU that is prone to melting itself
for me, its buying GPUs that are actually in stock for MSRP :^)
>>520530254
see above, though you're likely just samefagging for some reason to bump this dead general I guess?

>>520530579
sounds like poor cope

>>520530681
it does indeed

>>520530681 >>520530732
I mean you genuinely don't have any arguments to provide besides assuming some anonymous person doesn't have a job (it's the weekend, by the way)
so in classic fashion: I accept your concession

>>520526567
VRC video players are still bad, they just switched for completely software decoding and rendering for AMD gpus.

>>520530823
bot response
people with money just buy the best gpu on the market, which also happened to be only gpu worth buy in that gen

>>520531041
>people with money just buy the best gpu on the market
I mean that would be a very accurate statement if stock ever existed
last I checked, there are literally zero available from proper retailers and Nvidia has yet to actually give the golden ticket from their priority program to any actual consumers
buying from an ebay scalper is literally single digit IQ behaviour so I'll happily avoid that

I can understand buying AMD if you play fodder for normlfags like csgo and fornight etc, but for buying AMD for vr is just retarded.

>>520531212
If price is the issue, you are just poor.

One thing that a lot of people overlook when talking about latency is the importance of getting the prediction amount correct.
With Native PCVR you already have so little latency that disabling prediction is hardly noticeable, but with streaming it becomes very, very important.
I was doing a thing that required these numbers to be relatively accurate, and by introduce extra latency by nuking my frametimes, discovered that nobody is really doing a proper job.

Steamlink will adjust prediction accordingly, but fumbles unless changes are gradual, so it will often get stuck either under or over-predicting.
Airlink makes no adjustments.
VD actually removes prediction, giving you the worst result of them all.

This doesn't necessarily mean each solution would respond the same to changes in encoding, decoding, and transfer latency, but extra latency is extra latency, and they should all be taking it into account regardless of the source.

VD notably does not adjust its prediction when enabling spacewarp or video buffering, both of which absolutely do introduce a bunch of latency and need to be compensated for.

I recorded a bunch of data and wrote up a thing to submit a bug report so they could at least fix Steamlink, but the only avenue to report bugs is Steam discussions where shit just gets buried.

https://gist.github.com/Nordskog/e169f52064db8fc0ce1235be9186c738

All data is pulled from SteamVR frametimings by hooking the drivers.
Pictured: SteamLink with gradual frametime increase

>>520531212
stock exists for 5090. At 3500 euros, but exists, and a lot of it. Nobody wants to buy it at that price.

>>520531318
I see you've once again given up because you can't argue against vaporware launches
please point to the in-stock for $1999 5090 and I'll happily give you the win, madam
>>520531424
price isn't the issue
the cards just don't exist in stock for the silly price Nvidia says they're worth
I'm not paying a cent over what Nvidia puts out as "MSRP"
>>520531443
see above lol

>>520531553
the MSRP only applies to FE. The other board manufacturers officially increased it by a lot.

>>520531431
Is that assuming you are going over budget and missing frametime?
But that already means your experience is dogshit, so who cares?
Did I get that right?

>>520531849
>the MSRP only applies to FE
which makes it the only one worth buying if it ever existed
there are a few AIBs that also got priced the same but those similarly don't exist and are much larger
performance differences between the cards are negligible even when looking at ASUS' retarded Astral line that is prices at $3.4k

>>520531553
You are just poorfaggot coping.
Very funny how you stopped talking "melting". Just proves that you have no principles and just too poor.

>>520532063
>You are just poorfaggot coping.
go ahead and post your payslip, I'm very confident that the chances you'll be above my paygrade are quite slim
>Very funny how you stopped talking "melting". Just proves that you have no principles and just too poor.
ESL or just unfinished thout vomit?

>>520532201
I'm posting in another thread right now, 20% of my attention is already more than you deserve.
Anyway, being poor means not being able to afford things you want. And you are definitely poor.

>>520531431
Very interesting. Gay goblin as always sucks...
Try ALVR stuff, they apparently have timings more under control. Their motion-to-photon even more or less agrees with measured empirically by high framerate video (and due to being opensource, you could even produce a patch fixing your issues)

Thanks for posting.

>>520532485
there's a difference between being able to afford $6k scalper cards and being willing to give scalpers $6k
if you don't understand the principle behind that and still suck Nvidia's cock this hard then you're too far gone and there's very little reason to imagine you're an individual capable of reason

>>520532201
>Frame #1: Compute and render image
>Frame #2: Send image to display, flash backlight for a few milliseconds at the end of the frame.
I believe, that when talking about latency, you should talk about input polling explicitly.
That shit is very important. Otherwise could make people build wrong mental models.

>>520532615
Yeah, more poorfag cope. You would have had 4090 already if you weren't a poorfag, so it's a moot point.

>>520532615
stores have AIB stock at 3500 euro. No scalper is selling at 6k

>>520533085
>You would have had 4090 already if you weren't a poorfag
you're 2 years behind the times retard
I was going to get a 4090 but they didn't exist at launch for MSRP (the FE was the only one worth buying just like 50 series)
50 series repeated the exact same pattern, would have bought one of those if they existed but they simply don't
still, I implore you to post your payslip at any point mr. richfag who totally has a decent paying job

>>520533250
ah sorry they've dropped prices because as I mentioned literally no one was willing to pay $6k scalper prices for these melting shitbricks
>3500 euros
yeah that's nowhere close to $1999 USD so fuck off with your AIB 4 slot gigabricks

>>520533283
100% poorfag. Case closed.
Go to the gacha thread, vr is not for poors.

>>520533459
>vr is not for poors.
post VR headset next to your payslip!
I have 11 of em next to me right now

>>520533406
We have some idiots selling their 5090 FE for MSRP and one submsrp (in person sale only)

>>520533558
yet can't afford even 4090
poor and retarded lmao
typical amd gpu user

>>520533561
on what planet is this happening?

>>520533661
>yet can't afford even 4090
why would I buy a 2 year old GPU that isn't even in stock still?
please go on and post that payslip any day now!

>>520533668
https://www.olx.pl/d/oferta/karta-graficzna-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-fe-founders-edition-CID99-ID15h2nR.html

>>520533861
that's not $1999 USD

>>520533661
4090 doesn't exist, hello. No new stock since like last year. And people are not selling theirs because 5090 is so fucking overpriced and isn't even that faster.

>>520531431
>Encoding and decoding will eat up most of this, with an expected 30-60ms of total additional latency.
Sounds like numbers pulled from ass to me.

>If the current frame ends up spending the full 11.11ms rendering, then you'd expect an additional frame of extra prediction to compensate.
I'm not sure it works like this. It should matter how long it takes if you are not over the budget, the headset's display has fixed refresh rate.

Logic behind missing frametimes might be sound, but you are extrapolating too much I think.

>>520533948
you forgot sales tax murican. It was 10500 PLN MSRP here, including VAT. Now they reduced price "officially" but new price FE didn't ever exist.

>>520534045
>>520533749
You should have had it already. You had 2 years.
>I-i just started doing vr!
Don't care. Poorfag newfag.

>>520521087
>even vd graph stats shouldn't be able to go as low as 20ms
Yeah it's the absolute BEST case scenario and I need the game to have super low game render time and use the fastest h264 preset

>>520520610
I've got no way to record anything meaningful through the lenses but I've got some footage of what the stats look like when playing but please keep in mind that the onboard encoder is shitting itself and dropping massive amount of frames when streaming + recording

Preset I use most of the time for generic gamen, if I can't hold 120 I obviously drop it to 90 but codec and bitrate stays around the same because h265 craps itself sometimes at 200
https://streamable.com/g1t3mg
Here's some pavlov, base h264 200 is what I use when we play. I change to h265 and drop the bitrate a bit later because the recording shits itself at 200 and the latency is still pretty good at 145-150.
https://streamable.com/48n0q9
Here's the same pavlov but with SteamVR, 90fps and video buffering on which is what I used to play at when using my previous router (RT-AX55) and I was pretty much always at 48ms~
https://streamable.com/qo9dne

Overall I think it's getting pretty good now. I wish I had a Pico 4 Ultra to try with since it has proper Wifi7 and can handle 320mhz so 500mbps h264+ stable (I can only do 400 on the Q3) but if they can shove in better decoding chips, better antennas and higher wifi throughtput in the next gen headsets then at some point most people won't be able to tell the difference.
Also can anyone with a minion router and a q3 do a quest test with pavlov and see if they can get somewhat stable results? I'm using a TP-Link BE550 right now but it's a bit more pricey than the meme one.

>>520534238
we don't pay a silly 20-40% VAT tax like euros do

>>520534251
>>I-i just started doing vr!
I've been using this silly VR meme hardware since 2013
please go back

>>520534265
When I said
>even vd graph stats shouldn't be able to go as low as 20ms
I lied actually. You can go lower for a screenshot, it's completely unrealistic in real word scenarios though.

>>520534494
Should have had 4090 then.
Poorfag newfag.

>>520534669
>Should have had 4090 then.
what, from a scalper?
Nvidia surely wasn't selling enough of them
I see your brain is just on repeat though so perhaps you should go take a rest and come back with new material

I'd be really interested in income / net worth numbers for the poorfag spammers.

>>520534776
You could easily buy 4090 in 2023 for msrp, poorfag newfag.
That's what I and many other anons did.

>>520534946
the 4090 FE was out of stock a minute after release and was never directly purchaseable from the singular retailer (BestBuy) that was supposed to stock them ever since then
nice try at trying to revise history in an attempt to protect Nvidia for some reason though, props to you for doing it for free too!
Nvidia nonexistant stock is a very well known constant of the last three release cycles and there's plenty of recorded evidence on just how bad the market has been as a result, but do feel free to show us the alternative timeline where this didn't happen

>>520534265
Those are bullshit numbers. When people ask for video they mean latency test with high speed camera.

>GPU poorfag arguments
Is /g/ down?

AMD's new gen sold pretty well so we might get some good benchmarks and VR testing!

>>520535190
Getting tired of reading your poorfag cope honestly.
4090 was easy as fuck to get in 2023.
>b-but i need founders edition!
poorfag cope

>>520535407
VR is the only reason to buy anything better than 3060ti.

>>520535501
>4090 was easy as fuck to get in 2023.
I mean I was there on the frontlines as a hungry consumer willing to cough up $1500 for the FE
they simply didn't exist, and never existed afterwards thanks to the tiny supply Nvidia shat out
again, you fail to provide any real arguments despite wanting to protect Nvidia this badly, but I can see why you don't have much material to work with considering reality is what it is and what actually happened historically cannot be changed even if you keep repeating your same drivel

>>520535715
>>b-but i need founders edition!
>poorfag cope

>>520535834
you have potentially the smoothest brain of all of the anons I've had the privilege of attempting discussion with lately, congrats

>>520535982
you are posting retarded poorfag cope
you could easily buy a thirdparty card for msrp
yes it's not founders edition, but founders edition is fucking bullshit for reviewers
continue your poorfag cope

>msrp is 1500? i'm happy to pay 1500, but no cent more!
sits without gpu for 2 years
>msrp is 1999? i'm happy to pay 1999, but no cent more!
sits without a gpu for 2 years

amd fans are built different

>>520536231
>you could easily buy a thirdparty card for msrp
>yes it's not founders edition, but founders edition is fucking bullshit for reviewers
have you considered that form factor is part of the decision-making factor here?
the AIB cards are all gigantic shitbricks, whereas the FE has the particular dimensions that would make it actually fit in certain cases that the AIBs simply wouldn't fit in
>inb4 POORFAG COPE JUST BUY A NEW CASE AND REBUILD PC
but do keep going on and trying to protect Nvidia from a would-be customer who DID want to very much buy both 40 and 50 series flagships, yet couldn't because stock LITERALLY DID AND STILL DOES NOT EXIST
surely you are providing a service to Jensen right this very moment by looking like the perfect little cocksucker they love to have as their online defense force

>>520531967
Lacking the means the introduce latency elsewhere, yes. Results do suggest that VD and Airlink do not compensate at all regardless of the source.
A responsive 45fps is preferable to a sluggish 45fps.

>>520534130
>Sounds like numbers pulled from ass to me.
ballpark numbers pulled from ass, yes.

>I'm not sure it works like this. It should matter how long it takes if you are not over the budget, the headset's display has fixed refresh rate.
That wasn't worded very well. s/spend the full budget/exceed the budget. If you miss the vsync window you are boned until the next one, and if that's happening every single frame then you need to start baking that into your prediction.

In Steamlink's performance thing you can actually see it jump in 1-frame increments as it switches to target the next or previous vsync depending fluctuations in framtimes.

>>520536508
if they won't sell em to me, I can't buy em
simple as

ah yes, noon, time to drink!

Anything else to add?

I made sure the OP has all the relevant information for gameplay

>>520535407
/g/ power levels would disintegrate any /vrg/ anon baiting for a poorfag argument, /hsg/ and /lmg/ come to mind.

This is the kiddie pool.

>>520536543
okay, it's time to stop coping, bro
yeah, stock didn't exist only for you only, everyone else had no trouble buying 4090 in 2023
it doesn't matter than even the shitiest midtower case can accommodate even the biggest 4090 easily, but you live in a carboard box so every centimeter matters. we understand

>>520537152
>yeah, stock didn't exist only for you only, everyone else had no trouble buying 4090 in 2023
you literally live in another dimension if you honestly believe this to be true
>it doesn't matter than even the shitiest midtower case can accommodate even the biggest 4090 easily
and this seals the deal, you just make shit up on the fly and believe it to be true

>>520537402
yes anon, you are replying to someone baiting you in bad faith. please stop responding to them.

>>520537279
>>520537402
I have 4090, countless other anons have it too, you don't.
And I also have literally the cheapest midtower case with 4090 in the server room because fuck paying jews for things that only make the airflow worse, i thought I would need to switch it too, but it fit easily.
Keep coping and seething, poorfag.

>>520538078
whatever you say, retard

>>520538202
>steam survey
lmao
half of this thread has 4090+, newfag

>>520538376
yep, surely

>>520538454
unironical poorfag lmao

>>520537402
Skill issue

Half is a gross overexaggeration but I was very surprised by how many here actually do have a 4090

>>520534553
Oh yeah that's true. I'm never going potato mode and 10mbps to test latency stuff though lol. I never touched the resolution from godlike since I got the headset. The loss in visual acuity is too much.

>>520538521
>1700
>PNY
holy moly what a scam

>>520538520
post payslip :^)

>>520538724
nobody cares about your photoshopped "payslip", pajeet.
you can't afford anything

>>520538909
yeah i'll just keep waiting for you to post it at this point
surely you get paid well or have some sick investments giving some sweet dividends!

>>520538998
says someone who lives in a cardboard box and uses RX580
saving it for your next life, i understand, bro.

are we really shitting up the thread over gpus again

>>520539197
yeah you nailed it bro
its not that hard to even attempt a photoshopped or just oneline text salary to try and guess something that might be above mine if you're so confident
go ahead and make an attempt!

>>520539238
what do you expect people to do with their 4090s? play VR video games?

>>520539238
gotta wait until June for new VR toys...

>>520539305
it doesn't matter how much money you allegedly make if you live like a poorfag

>>520539528
i mean you seem to be ignoring that I stated I'd gladly buy and purchase Nvidia's flagships and suck their cock too if they'd only just let me do it
sadly, they don't want to actually produce the products they promised that they'd launch so here we are repeating the cycle of your mindless repetition

>>520539528
holy consoomer cope. just buy one more thing! then youll be happy!

>>520539528
this is why I finance my GPU purchases over 36 months at 12% APR to own the poorfags

>>520539683
words are cheap, just like you actually
you are a poorfag, it's a fact
if you weren't a poorfag you wouldn't know where to spend your money, just like me and other people here

>>520539713
buying a top-end gpu which I use daily every 2-4 year is not consoom bullshit, poorfag
what are you spending your money on? prostitutes and cigars or some other bullshit tiktok influencers thought you?

holy shit who the fuck cares? talk about VR

>>520540137
>if you weren't a poorfag you wouldn't know where to spend your money, just like me and other people here
i'd like to spend it on Nvidia.com or their participating FE retailers but they sadly won't let me
at any rate, I'm still waiting on you to at least guess a salary that'd be above mine as a joke, surely it'll be easy for my cardboard-dwelling self
>buying a top-end gpu which I use daily every 2-4 year is not consoom bullshit, poorfag
where's your 5090?

>>520540137
>what are you spending your money on? prostitutes and cigars or some other bullshit tiktok influencers thought you?
the idea of anything other than consooming is that foreign to you? are you brown or something?
besides pablo, you can shitpost on the thread like you do on any gpu anyways. not like you actually play VR games.

>sfw thread gpu schizos
>nsfw thread shader schizos
J man has been keeping this at bay the whole time...

>>520540831
>>nsfw thread shader schizos
what is /trash/ suddenly caring about optimized shaders or is it just the new coomer hotness gimmicks?

J-man was the man to hate without him society started infighting and collapsing

>>520540831
could we have the shader discussion here instead. at least its technical.

>>520540592
nobody gives a fuck about your imaginary salary
>where's your 5090?
I don't upgrade if performance difference is less than 2x.
Plus blackwell has issues. I could buy it tomorrow if I wanted.

>>520540605
Give examples. Brown people like you are usually the ones who waste money in the first place.
Or are you going to post the usual low iq
>mom, i'm investoooor, that's why i live in a cardboard box!
cope now?

>>520541146
>nobody gives a fuck about your imaginary salary
you seem to care quite deeply, which is why I implore you to attempt at beating it with yours or a guess just for fun!
>Plus blackwell has issues. I could buy it tomorrow if I wanted.
but nvidia has no problems
where can I buy it right now?

>>520541146
(you)

>>520541267
That's why I wouldn't have said anything if you kept pushing "melting" as the reason for not buying it, should have had 4090/3090 in that case either way.
But you are a stupid poorfag, so you started hard focusing on the price instead.

>>520541595
what VR games do you play anon?

>>520541595
I mean melting is just one problem the 40 and 50 series have both had
would really hate for my brand new 5090 to melt itself and take my PSU out alongside it requiring me to basically rebuild my PC
there's been driver woes as well that had to get cleared up on 50 series just for my HMDs to even work on it
>should have had 4090/3090 in that case either way
I did have a 3090, but I upgraded years ago
it would've been replaced with a 4090 as mentioned, but the product I was looking to purchase did not and still does not exist just like the 5090 I wanted did not and still does not exist

>>520542009
and now you started focusing on melting lmao
just 15 minutes ago you were happy to pay $2k for it
funny how that works

done talking with you, poorfag

>>520542261
I mean its not my fault nvidia's latest products have problems
I still would've bought it because those problems weren't demonstrated or in the news until after it launched, but since I couldn't find stock of the product I wanted I saw that news afterwards without owning it yet and getting that buyer's remorse
but since its SUCH a good product anyways, sure I'd buy it if they let me, just waiting for that to happen any day now!

The later half of Behemoth has been pretty buggy on PC
frequently enemies don't trigger either the spawn of more enemies after their death, or doors don't open after a combat. So I gotta reload last checkpoint and do the fight again.
Now I'm on the King dude and after the intro to the fight, the little symbol that means you can't sprint/run/dodge stays lit and doesn't go away.
After I beat the guy, without sprint, or dodge, you stab him in the chest and I have an out of body experience teleport across the room, screen goes black and white and nothing happens.
reload save, beat fight again. 5 times. Whatever is supposed to trigger ain't happening.
Oh well I'm done with it for a bit.
At least the Bat and the Elk were cool

>>520543157
It was pretty buggy on launch I'm surprised it's still that buggy

>>520536562
>ballpark numbers pulled from ass, yes.
Why you do that when you have hard numbers from pic related?

>>520543679
>>520536562
And 10ms for foveated encode seems a bit high to me.
Which gpu? Not the dual encode chips, right?

>>520543280
I don't remember encountering any bugs before the bat. maybe a missed trigger or something but not a big deal.
It's been frequent enough in the latter portion that I think I'm starting to figure out how to cause them. Like each combat room has little offshoots the enemies spawn from. If I sprint/boost into one and kill an enemy right as they spawn it usually breaks it and doors etc won't open.
so now I just RP and stand in the middle of arena and wait for enemies to come to me. I taunt them, point my sword at them menacingly, stuff like that.

so what games should i benchmark to show amd is a-ok

>>520544506
uh sir you're not allowed to do that

>>520544506
Just any set of VR games will do. Ideally they should have benchmark modes.
You could do VRC as well, but you'd need to use a public avatar and join an empty world that we can also join and test.

>>520544506
any game at 120hz with 3k^2 per eye rendering res

I want to make another thing for the chorkletown event but I can't decide what

>>520544506
Oh yeah make sure you keep render resolution the same for each; aim for 3kx3k per eye at the highest Hz your headset supports.

>>520544506
VRChat public Just H Party lobby with all avatars shown

I checked the /trash/ thread because people said there was an autistic shader discussion, but all I see are discussions about ntr, blacked and recordings of low-quality virtual porn.

>>520546167
All me.

>>520546167
Autistic shader discussion is friendlier in-game usually. The past few trash threads have had arguments between liltoon and poiyomi that are basically 99% buzzwords. The shader arguments have at least cut down the schizobabble but the threads are still not worth going to in any case. If you have genuine questions, you'd be better off getting an answer here depending on what shader you're looking to use.

>>520546639
>depending on what shader you're looking to use.
I prefer glsl/spir-v ! Thank you very much!

Oh fugg the bonelabs lobby is an hour later now.

I also checked the other thread just in case
>>>/trash/74322794
Yeah, those "people" needs to be killed.

>>520547046
Yep. Boners in 45min!

>>520547415
Please don't even link that here. That is beyond disgusting.
>>520547005
When it comes to the mostly VRC-centric autism which is entirely HLSL, you might be out of luck... That said, I know of one NA off the top of my head who would know about that, but he's at work. Trash also wouldn't be any better.

>>520544168
Ah, that statement was not intended to refer to encoding/decoding latency alone, but the total additional latency introduced by streaming.

I think I had it running at 120fps for that particular graph, so at 40-48ms total that's an additional 20-28ms of prediction ontop of encoding/decoding and whatnot.

The 30-60ms number does match up pretty well with the reported time-to-display value, which is the time between when the frame was submitted and when it is predicted to be displayed. Actual latency aside, that's how much latency it thinks there will be, after the frame has already been rendered and submitted.

I'm not set up to peer into the frame timings of PCVR native drivers, but in theory their time-to-display values should be in the single-frame range, or two at most, which is basically margin of error compared to streaming.

>>520549156
oh and am using a 3090

t.jelly

>>520549156
>but the total additional latency introduced by streaming.
hmm, i dunno about that
what else is there? transfer? i don't think anything else is notable there
>When you stream VR, you also have to contend with the latency introduced by video encoding, decoding, and data transfer, and other bits and pieces of overhead. Encoding and decoding will eat up most of this, with an expected 30-60ms of total additional latency.
even from your graph we know that encoding/decoding is sub 20ms
which is definitely not as low as you can go too
with foveated encoding the transfer should be pretty fast too.

>>520549330
>3090
Single engine then, not optimal.
4090 has 2x, pic related, right most column.

>>520550098
fyi, 5090 is 3x.

>wake up
>oh hey 200+ posts overnight during dead hours?
>
>its a rerun episode

BONELAB UP

AKWH28NE

Now that got me thinking. Currently OpenXR expects the framebuffer to be fully rendered, before it starts processing it.
But with quad view + foveated encoding you could theoretically render the low res background first, instantly submit it to the API and start its encoding and transfer, while at the same time start rendering the high res foveated area.
This way you should be able to pipeline a lot of work and cut the latency by a lot.
If that works, what we are doing right now is caveman shit.

captcha: vgvrj

>>520552902
lmao
i was literally just typing up something similar
>wake up
>see 170 posts overnight
>"wow what's gotten everyone so active aga-"
>its another episode of /g/ technobabble slop shit
zzz...

>>520553746
You can even use extremely cheap and fast encoders for periphery and expensive high bitrate for fovea.
Yeah, fovea might need to be rendered first then.
I wonder what happens if you reuse the periphery from the previous frame by reprojecting it.

Anyone knows the absolute latency of qpro eyetracking?

>>520554983
23 seconds

>>520554307
>I wonder what happens if you reuse the periphery from the previous frame by reprojecting it.
i bet only focus would be trippy as fuck

>>520554983
24 seconds

I would bring the J man back to life it would make these latency autists fuck off

>>520556980
total leashcuck death

>>520556980
Latency autism is cool when it's not hijacked by angry polacks

>>520556980
let's not get carried away now
the latency autists are bad
but no one wants a zombie j-man around

i will take latency discussion over "i'm autistic and piss myself when talking with people in vrc" any day of the weak

>>520557156
>no one wants a zombie j-man around
you won't stop me

day of the weak
is that sunday or monday?

>>520557709
monday (all the fags who cant hold their liquor on a sunday and get hungover)

>>520557429
K...
N...
E...
E...
L...

>>520557709
Sunday, not much to do if you're not into cooming.

deep philosophical things or something like that

>>520560612
There was a version of this world released in like 2022

karaoke?

https://vrch.at/me7202at

>>520559413
sign language bros...

>>520559413
drawing bros...

>>520559413
gtfo bros...

>>520563365
>WOAH LOOK AT ME IM HAVING SEKRET GAYMIN LOBBY IM SO COOL

>>520559413
mahjong bros...

>>520559413
movie bros...

>>520559413
house bros...

>>520553015
Bonelabs Deathmatch is some of the least fun I have had in VR. Am glad I can finally play again though.

>>520563698
this, but unironically

PAVLOV PUSH HIGH SERVER 19/40
GET THE FUCK ON

>>520523893
The solution is really simple. Years ago we used to have a latency tester for monitors and TVs, Leo Bodnar was producing a little instrument. It was a usb joystick coupled with a sensor, all linked by an app. You press the button in the joystick and it measures how much it takes for the screen to change color. It's a very simple concept and very accurate. All other talking is nonsense.

>>520556980
shut up yuru

>>520569723
it doesnt work, we need to move the controller. flicking and filming with high-speed camera is fine

>8 friends are on
>in 5 different instances
can't believe I opened ||or rather wasted|| a perfectly good monster for this

>>520571235
nice spoiler tourist

>>520571235
you have to go back

>>520571235

hate shitcord niggas so much it's unreal

>>520571235
and then I do fucking discord formatting as well
the pain has no end
at least I know nobody pays attention right now anyways

>>520571235
Everybody point and laugh at friendless discord fag

>>520571338
>>520571362
>>520571375
>>520571381
>>520571557

this would never happen if you were in VRChat.
actually mad at the fact that so many are here and nobody is online.

>>520571703
I shitpost from my overlay

>>520571235
>>520571413

Since the Meta Quest 3 is based on android and you can sideload apps...
Why isn't piracy for it popular?

anyone wanna gold i got the ITCH

FUCK I MEANT GOLF

>>520571703
I posted that from a secret walkabout lobby, I'm going to vrchat in like 15 minutes

>>520571929
good morning, retarded newfag

>>520571990
>>520572081
imagine paying to post on 4chan

>>520571929
>Why isn't piracy for it popular?
It is popular

>>520571929
the main audience are zoomers that have never heard of a torrent in their lives, and have never even considered the possibility of piracy
besides that there is straight up nothing worth pirating

>>520572196
i did it so i didn't have to nurse a capcha while image dumping for 6 hours

>>520571929
lol

>>520571990
>>520572081
When?

>>520572795
now, kashira

>>520572863
Be there in a couple.

>>520572292
I mean, it exists.
Definitely not as popular as pc gaming though, and that's the point. If anything it should have even more piracy.

>>520573456
they got a whole pirate loader, where you just click to download any official APK. There is nothing to discuss, it just works, and every poorfag is using it.

Boners were had. Good games, thanks for coming!

>>520572863
Wait, Golf+ or WMG?

>>520571703
I'm actually in pavlov push rn, map switch

>>520573947
wmg

>>520573928

IMPROMPTU WALKABOUT GOLFING CUZ IM BORED
lobby is the usual VRG

good bonering

lol

>>520575094
doing another! still up!!

>>520577812
>>520579486
>>520579964
please reply to the main post so people who like it can follow the links in one post and people who dislike it can hide it in one click
thank you

>>520580453
they are niggers, they are not going to listen

>Noooo stop posting vr content argue about gpus instead!!!

>>520582525
it's not about posting content for them, it's about being annoying niggers
if they post in good faith, literally everyone benefits if they quote the main event post

>>520582792
Definitely spam/flooding. They don't post in good faith. It's about shitting up the thread and trolling.
That's why they don't react to people asking nicely and just continue to spam.

They're just trying to incite FOMO for people who don't go.
Its the same 10 faggots in the instance every week anyway.

>>520583816
The only reason not to quote the main post is malicious.
They want to be obnoxious, it's plain trolling.

>>520560612
is this based off the movie the platform?

>>520584052
>The only reason not to quote the main post is malicious.
thats stupid
everyone knows you can just scroll up or ctlf f and if posts about an instance you dont enjoy upsets you literally grow up

>>520583650
>>520583816
>>520584052
at least the NA friday karaoke image posters are polite enough to post as replies.

he fell asleep.

>>520585021
>just jump through all those hoops so I can continue being a nigger!
next you are going to suggest to filter all vrc pics
you are nigger faggots who ignore people who ask nicely for you to not be animals who shit up the thread, plain and simple

lmao stay mad

he back!

>>520585445
Just because you yourself dont like it that doesnt make it a moral failing. You are not the standard. Noone is obligated to listen to you.

>>520586153
it's an objective fact that you are egoistic nigger who shits up the thread
people ask you nicely to reply to the main post, you ignore it and just continue shitting on the floor
a virtual pajeet, that's who you are

>>520586952
You're wasting your breath. They are eu trashnigs.

>>520586952
Im not even him, youre just a retard with main character syndrome.

ONE GAME
I DON'T KNOW WHY
I BOUGHT AN INDEX WITH NO GAMES TO BUY
KEEP THAT IN MIND THEY DESIGNED THIS HARDWARE
WITH TOUCH CONTROLS
AND THAT'S ALL I KNOW
IN HEADSET WARS, EXCLUSIVES ARE KEY
WATCH IT FLY BY AS IT PORTS TO QUESTIES
LOSE MY EXCLUSIVES AT THE END OF THE GEN
I HAVE NO GAMES TO PLAY

ITS SO UNFAIR
DIDNT LOOK OUT BELOW
THROW MY TRACKERS RIGHT OUT THE WINDOW
TRY TO HOLD ON BUT I DIDNT EVEN KNOW
WASTED IT ALL JUST WATCH MOVIES
I SPENT ALL MY TIME IN POPCORN PALACE
OF MY OLD GAME I'M TIRED, ALL I GOT IS QUEST PORTS
JUST LIKE THE WII, ITS REMINDING ME, OF A MEMORY, OF A TIME WHEN
I CRIED SO HARD FOR VR TITLES
BUT IN THE END, ITS JUST GOT NO GAMES
I PAIS SO MUCH, FOR VIVE TRACKERS
BUT IN THE END, IM JUST GOONING WITH GAY MEN

>>520587626
eh 6 out of time im having trouble following some of the syllable work id have to hear it to make it make sense

>>520587429
>he's not the main character of his own life

>>520580069
>>520575094
Good golfing golfers, thanks for stopping by!

>multiple anons ask you nicely to be polite, not even stop the spam, but just to quote the post
>nigger responds with "you have main character syndrome"
eu trashnigs, not even once

>>520587913
actual subhumans, no joke

>>520587913
>multiple anons
Nah it's just one samefag like always.

>>520587887
also idk how to take screenshots in steamVR with the Qpro gomen

>>520588161
subhuman cope

>>520588161
Wrong.

>>520588189
You pick the left controller, press the menu button and left trigger at the same time

>>520588508
it wasn't working with either controller like that (i have the quest/steam menu swapped so i tried both)
ill just live to suffer in ignorance

>>520587913
al ilready said im not him dumbass im just calling you out

>>520589308
nobody cares nor believe you
if you are not the nigger himself, you are his gay erp buttbuddy (which also make you are a nigger)
either way, kill yourself

>>520589550
Noone here is at your beck and call nor do they care about what you want. Everyone will carry on as they please and you will seethe about it.

i dont know what those guys are talking about

>>520589550
continue shitting up the thread, subhuman

>>520589550
>>if you are not the nigger himself, you are his gay erp buttbuddy (which also make you are a nigger)
>everyone who disagrees with me either is or is associated with my personal nemesis
this is what main character syndrome means

>>520590042
eu trashnigs are spamming the thread with garbage pics nobody cares about
people asked them to quote the main post nicely, but they are acting like faggots instead

Even a single click is too much for europeans to provide the bare minimum of goodwill towards their fellow man and that's too much for them.

he says as he shits up the thread even more

>>520590542
>aww but i was so nice, they HAVE to listen to me
you have to go back

>>520590419
it's not the first time you're chimping out and refusing to quote
everyone knows it's you

>>520590553
why not?
let's all act like niggers

>>520590716
but he did quote

>>520590716
Does your lack of control disturb you? Keep crying over screenshots.

seriously i understand if the demand was to stop posting, or to post in another thread, but quoting the rest of the karaoke pics literally takes a single click. Absolutely pathetic.

we hate screenshots of vr games in the vr thread
where are the discussions about furries and trannies

>>520590961
requests go on /r/

>>520591331
Nice goalpost changing

>Want to get in VR
>Slime tracker dies
>Will probably have to resolder/replace Wemos D1 again
i started considering getting 3 pack VUTs but i dunno how good they work with a quest
I also heard you can somehow merge them into Slime, where i could use VUTs for legs and hip + slimes for chest and upper legs

>>520591331
Nobody asks to stop posting, just not to be a subhuman and quote the main post.
It even helps people who care about that shit too.
The point is being obnoxious. It's literally
>NOOOOOOO DON'T YOU DARE HIDE MY GARBAGE, I WANT ATTENTION
pissy fit.

>>520591510
so in retrospect was slime a meme?

>>520591374
>requests go on /r/
Red Herring Fallacy

>>520591510
fuck off, toilet chan
you only come here when you have technical issues
you are not my friend anymore

>>520591746
For building them yourself? they're as good as 80$ i paid for materials goes.
but i would like something with auto-calibration.
>>520591794
new phone who dis

>>520591784
Ah, autistic. My apologies. I'll translate:
Stop asking people to do shit noone cares

>>520591794

another control freak mad people dont carry themselves how he thinks is right

>>520592051
Ad Hominem, Appeal to Popularity.

>>520592051
another control freaks calling everyone a control freak
guess what? nobody asked!

>>520592189
>>guess what? nobody asked!
Ah but your main point was how nicely you asked, wasnt it?

>>520591794
The last time i posted pics you told me to fuck off to trash.
damned if you do damned if you dont

>>520592314
when?

>>520592314
False Framing, Strawman Fallacy.

>>520592381
nta but aren't you kind of a trashfag anyways?

>>520592484
dunno, am i?

>>520592389
just scroll up :^)

Just give up and quote next time miti, lmao

>>520592553
dunno, are you?

>>520592484
yes, he looks like this

>>520592559
what for? that was my first post

>>520592559
Oh, you're making the mistake of thinking i'm some other poster! Whoops!

>>520592756
arent you doing the same thing? I dont even go to kareoke :^)

>>520592838
Tu Quoque ("You Too") Fallacy, Smug Dismissiveness

>>520592838
lies
you said the same thing last time too, but then outed yourself as a samefag by attaching a new event pic by mistake

>>520592926
'fallacy fallacy'
focuses too much on identifying fallacies rather than engaging with the actual content or substance of the argument

>>520592992
its be nice to think that was a true and someone else hasnt been wasting your time because they have nothing better to do, wouldnt it