/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1794

I am NOT buying a $900 quest 3

Repostan from last thread

Hello, today at 19:00CET (2h30 from now) I will host a "YosaVR" dancing session.
>What is YosaVR to begin with?
"YosaVR" is the combination of "Yosakoi" and VR. Yosakoi is a (modern) japanese folk dance style, which often relies on using accessories.
With "YosaVR", we aim to actively learn dance routines; first we'll learn some actual yosakoi routines, but I'm planning to eventually mix it with other types of dances/songs later on.
>What does it looks like?
Here are some videos from when I was training it back in May:
- Easy song: https://streamable.com/0wxl7i
- Mid song: https://streamable.com/91lp9t
- Difficult one (no video editing): https://streamable.com/4b02tr
>What to know? How will we train?
When I tried to host it earlier this year, I made this document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m6DHeP7rt538M18IdRz6fAGeD_hIQvGJgBc7CtrWpTo/edit?usp=sharing
Even if some infos might be outdated now, if you are interested in the project I recommend you to read it still.
This time I'll try to also host it regularly on Thursdays while keeping the "dojo format". In my opinion it is much harder than both PyPy or ParaPara, so if you want to become good at it, you will most likely need to train outside of the regular Thursday instances.
>What to expect for today?
This time we'll keep on seeing the moves of "Street of the Soran": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBND5Ftn2bA
And we will keep on doing full song training on the beginner dance "Agara": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FweefSy68Y
Please note that dancing is an intense physical activity, so there will be a bit of warmup/stretching before we start, if you join late I strongly advise you take a few minutes warming up before starting to dance.
Sessions are open to everyone, pro and beginner alike! If you are curious to either watch or dance just join

What's a reasonable price for a used Quest 3 with controllers? 400€?

>>546385469
>used quest 3

I AM buying $900 quest 3.

>>546385572
he obviously wants to sell it before the frame comes along anon...

>>546385572
>>546385829
I can't afford 900 euros + tip for a Steam Frame anons...

>>546385192
Least annoying metaslop consumer

>>546385641
Least based steam frame enjoyer

Christmas Carol 2025
Rick Astley - Love This Christmas
Music Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYCUNULp868
Lyric Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucg3wvgk_Ac
Lyrics: https://genius.com/Rick-astley-love-this-christmas-lyrics
This year we're producing an alternative Christmas song for the thread, this time a rendition of Love This Christmas with no changes to the lyrics.
Recording starts now and ends on the 19th of November to give the video editor time to work his magic.
Contact the recorders in game or by other means to join in, either singing the chorus, a verse or the whole thing.

Recorders:
SEA - Noxsea
EU - Karkeys, Uzugu
NA - Azuth

The more recorders the merrier, if you don't feel like you or your friends are covered by the names above, contact Karkeys to join the list of recorders.
If you want to get a feel for what the finished product will be like, here's the song from last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLWV08ftkBE

>>546385907
you have like half a year to save up $500-$899

EU Assetto Corsa: European Racing club
Race 109

19:00 UTC 20:00 CET, 17th of November

Welcome to the mini-pre-Christmas season! We're back at sensibly priced sporty cars. This time: 200HP, FWD Honda Civics. At Kicevo, it's gonna be bumpy.

60 minute practice
12 minutes qualifiers
14 laps race

Afterwards some more Japanese kino TOUGE part 3.


If you just bought Assetto - grab Assetto Corsa Content Manager - a better launcher and mod manager: https://assettocorsa.club/content-manager.html To install mods: just drag and drop zip files from mega onto the Content Manager windows and click on the hamburger menu on top right. Highly recommend installing stable custom shader patch and 7-zip plugin in Content manager.

For communication we'll use mumble at voice.vrg.party port 64738, as it doesn't need any registrations or logins.
https://www.mumble.info/

MODS: https://mega.nz/folder/r2wwQKLA#eNgKP9Chm5Hr-M9aLQYWgw

>>546385469
Can't wait for the Quest 3 market to crash when steam frames start coming out (I will be part of the cause).

Untitled Thursday tonight at 19:30 UTC (20:30 CET, 3 hours 30 minutes from now), come hang out after a long day of doing nothing at work
Instance link will be posted here

Is this for real? The deckard will not have a jack for earphones?

>>546387448
Enjoy your $900 quest -3.5mm jack. Hope it was worth the wait

>>546387448
No, expandability is meant to be done with different head straps.

>>546385572
I see a local listing for $250, almost new. Should I go for it or what would be my best option as an upgrade?
t. Index user that has only ever used an index for the past 5yrs

>>546388116
you'll hate delay, compression and hybrid fbt

>>546388116
Why not? It's next to no money, and worst comes to worst, you'll still receive a nice little standalone gimmick headset to play through this one-two quest exclusives you might want to check out.

>>546388116
That's way too cheap, it's good deal if it's working and not covered in layers of cum but I would be warry.

>>546388116
you're upgrading from your $1k kit ($500 hmd) to a $250 used zuccbrick?

Might buy the 'eckard just so I don't have to deal with Cuckbook's locked down OS and spyware anymore.

>>546388459
Isn't technological progress amazing?

All I wanted from deckard was double PPD, a significant percentage increase to the FOV, a less breakable design, and maybe a smaller form factor.

Why have they done what they did?

>>546388590
it sounds more like anon doesn't have a job

>>546388116
>what would be my best option as an upgrade?
Depends on how much you hate Facebook and whether you're willing to put in some extra effort and money getting a decent wireless PCVR setup working.
As far as specs go, Quest 3 isn't a bad option and it felt like a pretty big upgrade over my Index in most ways.

>>546387685
Headstrap with a 3.5mm jack.

I wonder if it will be possible to swap the LCD with OLED.

>>546387448
the default audio module is the speakers

Anyone up for some walkabout in ~3 hours?

using the bolt action in forefront is a hell of a lot easier with the buff

>>546388776
yeah they solder on the CPU but they let you swap out the displays and the lenses that make sense

>>546388621
They got the smaller form factor down though. Extra fov was unlikely to happen since you're already pushing the limits with the index.
As for double PPD... expect double the price.

>>546361469 (Cross-thread)
Munchkin in about 4 hours.

The year is 2043. The steam frame 2 just released. 115 FOV is typical. LCD is the standard. VR has no games.

>>546385572
I have a used quest 3. a used mouse, used herman millo

>>546389125
>Extra fov
I guess for that you either need a larger form factor, or new optics technology.

my quest headset is disintegrated it leaves black flakes in my face when i wear it

>>546388621
Because Gabe decided he wants the casual audience and decided he can compete with a 500 dollar headset by offering a likely 800 dollar headset, with only marginally better specs. And at the same time try and make a game "ecosystem" with the steambox. It's clear that's where the real effort is.

Speculation time. What do you think the price of Frame is going to be?

They've somewhat firmly said less than Index, but Index came with lighthouses at $1000. I don't know if tarriffs are going to influence price in some way.

>>546389051
The lobbies fill so quick.

>>546389746
$900. Easy next question.

>>546389727
they will sell a steam game that you can play on virtual reality steam os and it will be better to develop for than the Facebook question 3

Helibros, did we get too cocky?

>>546389746
Quest is only so cheap because zucc sells at a loss to undercut competition.

There's no way it will be anywhere cheaper than 700 best case scenario.

More likely to be 800. If it's anywhere near 900 for a full kit then Gabe has truly lost the plot

>>546388664
I do but why bother spending twice as much when you can always save money. And in that case, what would you say is an actual upgrade from the Index then?

>>546389929
haha i've heard so many people in vc (they don't realize it's open mic) rage about helicopters

>>546389746
the tattifs will eat all of their profit and it will go directly to the donald trump foundation

>>546389909
They've already said they have no game in the works.
The target market for this is the elusive casual vr gamer who just wants to strap a tv to his face to play a flat game with a bisected controller

>>546389960
i will pay the $900 + tax

>>546389983
there are many choices that are all very easily seen mentioned in many of these threads
there's literally an entire world of choice available to you

>>546389960
Steamdeck was sold at a loss too

did you get a golden gun yet on any of the classes?

>>546389983
just buy a used quest 3 and then wack off on it and buy the stream frame later

>inb4 preorders go up for a standard frame for 500 and a suprise frame pro with OLED for 800

>>546388621
Valve releases things they think are genuinely interesting. They don't think about the market, they don't think about whether people want it or not. They create something they think is good, and then throw it at the people and see if they also think it is good. They see VR as good and they are trying to solve the chicken and egg problem with VR hardware and VR games. No games, no hardware. No hardware, no games.
The OG vive was a collab with valve. They saw VR as genuinely interesting and so got lighthouse tracking off the ground and into people's homes. The index was an extension; take the vive, polish it and create a solid, enjoyable VR experience and combine it with a new HALF LIFE game of all things in VR, and then sit back and watch the new industry blossom.
Meta then came in and shit on everything by killing PCVR and then creating an absolutely abysmal walled garden full of slop. PCVR titles simply cannot make money. People don't care.
They still think VR is cool so they design the frame. Lighthouses are too expensive, meta showed that camera tracking is good enough, and this whole PCVR wireless hack that people put together on the INTENDED TO BE STANDALONE headsets was almost good enough to work. So they polish that concept, and throw in something important: Games. It plays flat games. There is no longer any concept of 'no games', because it plays flat games. Standalone titles. PCVR titles if you can find any. People buy and use the headsets for flat games, and then there's a market for PCVR to actually exist.

There we go. My dad works at valve and asked gaben all this and after talking about yachts for 20 minutes he mumbled something about chickens and eggs and VR.

Has anyone done this?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DmSXppkkssE

I'm thinking a $350 refurbished Quest 3 plus this would be half the price of whatever the Frame will cost.

>>546390302
Yep. On recon no less.

>>546390295
No its not actually. They sell it at cost, which is why im worried about the frame because the also said they plan on treating the steam machine pricing as if it was a comparable PC rather than a console which means valve has actually lost the plot for why consoles sell the way they do.

>>546390302
Medic...

>>546389929
>>546390003
I've been using the heli a lot, getting 60+ kills 0 deaths per match with it, I laugh my ass when I fly over someone I just killed and hear them complain or request someone to deal with the heli.
It really needed a nerf tho, hopefully it is not too extreme.

>>546389960
>Quest is only so cheap because zucc sells at a loss to undercut competition
Probably technically is if you factor in R&D costs, but they're definitely not selling the hardware at a loss.

>>546390682
>valve has actually lost the plot for why consoles sell the way they do.
They don't care. If you want it you'll buy it. If you don't then they'll stop making it. They're selling the concept of it more than the actual hardware, they just provide a polished version of the concept.

>>546390454
valve didnt really have a choice because of the Meta/Microsoft partnership bringing gamepass to the quest.

>>546390682
How do you know? Gabe was saying it was "painful" to sell it at the price it was at.

>>546390454
>Meta then came in and shit on everything by killing PCVR and then creating an absolutely abysmal walled garden full of slop. PCVR titles simply cannot make money.
Valve killed the pcvr market themselves by not releasing anything at all, was it that hard to port their SP games to VR? They should have used steam home as the new garrys mod replacement and create their own vrchat instead of the unity crap we got. Imagine releasing source 2 with a UE like license and access to all valve assets (from the vr ports they should have done) to develop vr chat like worlds for steam home.
But sure blame the zuck, at least he has been shown wearing the damn lenses

>>546391305
>Valve killed the pcvr market themselves by not releasing anything at all,
They can't do all the work anon. If they're the only people making VR content then VR is still dead. They definitely could have done more, but they did A LOT. They showed off the potential and expected others to take it from there, and if they didn't, it means there was no realizable potential.

>lcd

>>546391305
I would have loved that. Truth is Valve is too lazy to do something like a real social VR platform, and even if they did, they would just lose interest and stop supporting it anyway.

110 FOV is the 1366x768 of VR headsets

>>546389828
Why should anyone care about it at that price? It's fucking double a Meta 3

>>546391590
>They definitely could have done more, but they did A LOT. They showed off the potential and expected others to take it from there
What a lot? A single game that was too scared to try anything fun, teleport movement, no melee and 3 weapons, coming out a year after boneworks has already released.
And then they gave up and never touched it again, not even now as they already stated there is no new VR content.
If they didn't want to work in VR they could have contracted a studio, like they did for csgo with hidden path, a bad game is better than no game, hell finance the development of the VR ports by the community itself, they could have sold VR passes in csgo/cs2 to let you play the vr port, even better if cross play with flat and vr was enabled in community servers, showing the plebs what they are missing.

>>546392064
Do I really need to talk to you about what the 'steam' part of 'steamvr' implies or can you figure that one out yourself

>>546390454
>>546390783
They have to care. The headset still has to compete with others.

When the index came out, it was positioned as a premium product, but it was still competing in a sphere where the vive and og oculus were still around on their last legs, and the only next step was the rift s, and quest 1. With the expectation that the rift s was the next step.

So it was expensive, but it was a premium product that actually gave you something for that in terms of its specs vs it's aging contemporaries.

But here, it's launching 3 years late to the party, with the quest 3 having launched in 23. It has to compete with it. It's the only real competitor. And it's specs are not a huge leap to warrant what will surely not be anywhere near the 3's cost.

Pcvr died because there was barely any incentive for make games for it as opposed to for the quest. The quest was vastly more popular than pcvr. Why even bother with a platform that guarantees lower sales?
Valve had the opportunity to fix this but they fucked it up by making the frame a more expensive quest 3

>>546392563
It doesn't have to compete with anything except people's own desires. Quest 3 users aren't playing PCVR* **. They're not playing flat games on their headsets either.

*Except VRChat
** I can tell because NO-ONE is playing PCVR

>>546392125
Boy I can't wait to play flat games on my headset! This is truly what vr is for! Not like I already have a monitor or tv screen hookup!
Literally who is sitting there actually interested in that? You need to actually sell the vr aspect too you know

>>546392825
It's not a VR headset. It's a flat game headset that also plays VR games.

>>546392125
The thing that bugs out after 10 min if you want to keep a desktop screen in your arm forcing you to minimize the vr game to get it to refresh?
The thing that has no way to record vr footage and was explicitly ignored when they added the steam recording feature?
The thing that every quest use is told to avoid using if possible and to use vdxr with virtual desktop instead?
The thing that doesn't even support passthrough to have a floating screen to play flat game instead of a stupid black void?

The virtual desktop dev has done more for pcvr than that thing

>>546392898
>>546392825
it's pretty clever that they would do this because they'll sneak a VR headset into the hands of people who were the type of people who are going to buy a steam deck and then now they'll buy this and now they'll buy half-life 7 or whatever

>>546392956
Are you confusing it with steamlink? (Which is also a steam related product by the way)

i wish there was more 180 vr porn

chatgpt can't tl;dr 4chan threads anymore because of hate speech. it's over.
Apparently this is last thread as a comic

>>546388776
you wouldn't want to because OLED isn't bright enough for pancake lenses

>>546392125
Also openVR and it's successor OpenXR form the foundation of VR gaming as we know it. Well all non-zuccucked garbage anyway.

>>546393393
Based natural anti-ai defense mechanisms.

>>546393393
Waiter waiter more slop please

>>546392898
it's a PC which is also a headset, with proper linux on it. It's Simula One if it was good.

>>546393139
No I am explicitly talking about steam vr, you would know about its issues if you weren't stuck in vr chat.
Your next erp session, set your browser to play a video and stick it in your arm using steam vr, watch how long it lasts before the video freezes, making the feature useless.

linux vr shit is fucking awesome. you guys are absolutely nuts out of your damn minds. keep your facebook vrchat

>>546393603
Windows stops updating minimized windows.

>>546393602
Yep. I think it's really cool to have an arch-linux headset. But VR games are not the primary function.

oh no! they made a Linux native software translation miracle and it's slightly better than the literally Facebook thing

>>546393791
they definitely are, I don't know what you're smoking

buy another Facebook headset and then put your Facebook on it and then use Facebook OS to make that weird sound when it starts up and you want to smash it

>>546392563
It's going to be worth the cost to some people just to have an option around that price that isn't Meta. Gonna be funny watching opinions flip on wireless because of that.
I think being designed to work out of the box for wireless PCVR is a plus, and eye tracking is nice. If the cost is similar to a Quest 3, dedicated router, and upgraded strap, then it'll be pretty good depending on what headset you're coming from. It's just not a super attractive option for anyone that already has a decent Quest 3 setup.

>>546393773
The window is not minimized and obs/discord have no issues streaming non focused windows.

You are legally obligated not to hold a grudge towards Facebook because they already paid out settlements for their class action lawsuit.

I want the data privacy abyss company to have more sensors pointed directly on my eyeballs

>>546394083
I've only had it get stuck when minimized when I put some youtube videos on my hand when playing vr...
Yes, steamvr standard stuff

>>546394134
i collected my $38 and will spend it on a steam frame as soon as possible

>>546394037
Well the thing with the frame's wireless is that it is as good as you can possibly make it with 2023 tech instead of being a hack side loaded onto standalone headsets that were designed to feed people into horizon worlds.

>>546394212
You should raise these as bug reports. I don't get these problems because I don't use the steamvr overlay as a browser because I'm not retarded.

>>546394212
If it is that bad, stop using steamvr. Just close it when it comes up after booting your headset up. Easy.

>>546393393
Remember to up the slurs/post ratio to keep the clankers out, faggots.

>>546393393
that's pretty good

When are we forefrotting today?

>>546393393
more proof that AI is anti-soul

>>546394538
>because I'm not retarded
You can't imagine a scenario where a person may want to keep track of a second window when in VR?

>>546394746
He means the overlay you can set to float in vr using steam vr, not steam vr itself, what is with both of you retards replying the wrong person?

Also try setting up a second virtual desktop using windows, and try to pin that screen using steam vr, see what happens

>>546385026 (OP)
in vrchat's full body tracking calibration, do I have to align my limbs to the t pose even if i look fucked up irl or the other way around and just do a t pose irl without caring about the indicators

>>546387448
you'll need to use an usb to 3.5mm dongle or bluetooth

>>546393393
/trash/ only needs one panel

>>546395431
just do your best
if your avatar has fucked up arms the tpose will be fucked

>>546393393
stop posting retard, there are generals for your slop on every board

>>546393393
>skill issue. I tripped on my cable again
I chuckled

>>546396168
Hey, it’s all good, gomen if it came off as spam! I just got a bit excited to share something I really like. You’re totally right, there’s a place for everything and I’ll keep it in the proper general next time. Dajobu, no hard feelings, right?

awwwwww

1. Valve “Steam Frame” / Deckard Speculation

No official headphone jack people joke about needing adapters or modular straps.

Debate over likely price: most anons predict $800–$900.

Mixed reactions: excitement for a Meta-free headset vs frustration at high price and LCD panels.

Some think Valve’s trying to reach “flat gamers” by supporting both desktop and VR play.

2. Meta Quest 3 vs Index vs Frame

Some refuse to pay $900 for Quest 3; others find $250 used deals.

Index users discuss whether Quest 3 is an upgrade or downgrade.

Concerns about compression, hybrid FBT, and Meta’s privacy issues.

3. Meta vs Valve and PCVR’s Future

Long debate on who “killed” PCVR:

Meta accused of fragmenting the market with standalone systems.

Valve accused of doing too little after Half-Life: Alyx.

Discussion about the chicken-and-egg problem of VR content vs userbase.

4. Technical & Game Chatter

Racing events in Assetto Corsa (EU racing club).

Forefront and VTOL VR balance talk.

FBT calibration and avatar setup questions.

Linux and SteamVR overlay quirks.

Meta Thread Stuff

Some posters joke about AI (“ChatGPT can’t TL;DR 4chan threads anymore”).

Others reply with memes mocking or defending that idea.

Usual banter, tech humor, and slang-filled back-and-forths typical of /vg/ generals.

>>546394430
Probably should've been more clear that I do think the Frame wireless support will be better. And if it's significantly better, I'll go Quest 3 to Frame.
I don't expect a lot of the people who end up changing their minds on wireless will actually have tried both though.

>>546396558
At least use a cute robot avatar if you're going to be using AI

>>546396558
Did you just AI generate a response to him being angry at you for spamming the thread with AI generated replies

>>546397135

$499 Steam Frame

>>546393393
have you done this for the previous threads?

What do i need to get the maximum vrchat furfag experience of moving my fingers and tracking my facial expression

>>546397842
Samsung Galaxy XR or Quest Pro (not made anymore)

>>546398026
Who is paying you to shill the Samsung headset?

Ready or Not VRO mode releases TOMORROW. Ready or Not already had some UEVR injector based stuff but this is a proper port with motion controls for weapons, gadgets, opening doors etc.

https://youtu.be/0rsle5hjhOQ

>>546389051
A round of walkabout in one hour.

>>546393393
You're so fucking insufferable with your 24/7 usage of Ai shit

>>546398101
what other in production, supported, sensible headset exists with eye tracking, face tracking and handtracking? HTC Focus Vision? Lol

Only alternatives are Pico 4 Pro (out of production, doesn't exist) and Quest Pro (out of production, barely on life support dies at first sight of sweat)

>>546398194
Multiplayer apparently works but has issues and no remote IK so you look silly. If they ever clean that up this is going to kick ass

>>546398380
Do you know anyone with the headset?

I find it funny that 11PPD indexfags with shitty fresnel cry about the frame
Nigga you'll get 4x the clarity from the lenses alone

>>546398194
HORYYY SHEEEEEEET

>>546398194
Bit will it fix the shit that UE5 is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxJ7FQO_Cog
>gameplay trailer
>still no look at the beat 'em up combat in a fucking TMNT game

>>546399174
april sexo

>>546385445
yosavr dancing up! https://vrch.at/06zx65mf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb5kPJddoC4
The Jap devs of RuinsMagus are making a new game, doesn't look that much better

>>546399379
>furnigs everywhere

I'm tired boss

>>546398194
https://youtu.be/uHYr8ICPzRo
More gaemplay

Oh yeah I'm planning on another coordinated forefronting sessions tomorrow at 1900 UTC.
Same kind of plan as last time:
BE READY to jump into a server at 1900 UTC. We'll stare at the sever list for a bit until we get impatient and jump into the first 0/32 EU ALL MAPS that appears. This could be at 1901. these servers fill up in like 3-4 minutes.

Hey, anon!
Volleyball in one and a half hours at 21:00 CET!

>>546393393
Garbage, slop, no soul, terrible.

Let me show you what a real /vrg/ thread comic looks like

>>546401715
Every day is a fronting day.

>>546402407
Feel free to do more forefronting but I like doing it on the fridayslop slot as a big coordinated effort

>>546401873
hey FAGGOT thanks for doing it on THURSDAY
i hope the brits steal more of your potatoes and you STARVE

>>546402349
jelly did nothing wrong

>>546397556
instant buy

>>546402670
Nani da fug

>>546403329
YOU TOOK ADVANTAGE OF GAZ NEW JOB TO HIJACK THURSDAY AND KEEP TWO HALF DEAD INSTANCES
THIS IS THE SAME BULLSHIT AS SATURDAYS BEING DEAD BECAUSE ITS ONLY KARAOKE

DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE POTATONIGGER

least mentally ill vrc troon

>>546403660
I've seen worse.

>>546403660

>>546403601
Meets are dying because PCVR is dead, don't take it personally

damn psvr2 controllers feel flimsy and cheap as fuck

>>546403601
We've been doing volleyball on Thursdays for months, anon.

>>546403973
go die pedonigger

>>546402349
In retrospect, it's hilarious that we actually had a poll asking "Are your photos wearing thigh high socks with VR gear thread relevant?". Early /vrg/ sure was something.

>>546389051
>>546398356
Time for minigolf. Join VRG.

Who hosts volleyball?

>>546397032
runa is so overused

>>546405221
Join and find out!

godot chads rise up

>>546405221
lmao you're such a tool

>>546405302
Need a name to join off of.

>>546405374
Instance will get posted don't worry anon

>>546405374
Certainly! Kindly join off Yuki Nagato to have a good time with the rest of /VRG/ at this event.

>>546406143
You're trying way too hard, anon

(You) did buy it while it was on sale right?

>>546407046
dont care for the same friendslop game repackaged under a different name 10 times

Vampire Survivors just got Quest port.

>>546403601
Maybe you should check out the other events aswell. Y'all have a big hangout instance tomorrow anyways

MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY GETTING A JOB

>>546401873
I want to rape P

>>546408517
okay, where?

>>546387141
Untitled Thursday instance is up! Come hang out
https://vrch.at/rzg8vmbw
Or join on Rokk

Had some technical issues with the steamvr update, enable hdcp legacy compatibility mode if your headset is a black screen

>>546408517
Are you hiring?

>>546408954

>>546408760
I am not for rape!

What hoodie is this?

https://x.com/PyuShiratsuyu/status/1988732033473110393

>>546409578
that's the spirit!

>>546410132
sir this is a imageboard

>>546408517
That's terror

>>546401873
https://vrch.at/y0gfr99d
Volleyball instance is up!

Munchkin is up: https://vrch.at/gjv0e87a
Here are the rules: https://munchkin.game/site-munchkin/assets/files/1138/munchkin_rules-1.pdf
In game flowchart available too, first few expansions including steeds.

>>546408517
In today's economy? Good luck.

so should i take a break from VR sell my quest 3 and buy a steam, frame when it comes out all so i can expediter my move to linux away from windows 11? and yes i know ALVR exists but it has noticeable lag even at optimal settings and over a wire and im just tired of everything i own serving me ads right from the main interface

>>546408760
Get in line

>>546411336
>move to linux away from windows 11?
Sure, go to linux, what could go wrong
https://www.protondb.com/app/546560

>>546412616
most of those complaints relate to ALVR which the steam frame will not need

>>546412896
Enjoy your tinkering anon, it builds character

>>546413283
>tinkering
there is no tinkering unless you explicitly install arch
im going to install cachyOS i have been using linux for a long time but VR has always been that lynchpin that keeps me from staying now that the steam frame will work on Linux natively i dont need to worry about that anymore

Can't wait to get my Bsb2 back so I can refund that shit and wait for steam frame. I just hope it's possible to charge while wearing so I'm not limited by battery life

>>546408954
>enable hdcp legacy compatibility mode if your headset is a black screen
What does that mean and how do I do that?
t. newfag

>>546413642
>now that the steam frame will work on Linux natively i dont need to worry about that anymore
bold of you to make such assumptions of Valve

>>546413665
>I just hope it's possible to charge while wearing so I'm not limited by battery life
I don't see why it wouldn't be possible.
45W charging should make it pretty fast too.

>>546413843
bro it runs steam os and so does the gabecube

>>546413642
https://www.protondb.com/app/8930
Of course, no tinkering or issues at all.

>>546414041
meanwhile, in reality
ive been using VR on linux only for years now, my man

>>546413843
its literally made to be used plug and play with the steam machine that runs linux

>>546414362
take note how they didn't emphasize what kind of content the Steam Machine was meant to stream to the Frame?
Steam Link has worked for a long time and that is what they meant since it was pointing at both Frame and Deck
Steam VR Link has barely just now started functioning as of the last major release of SteamVR 2.12, and it wasn't even touted in patchnotes as being something that was supposed to work
it barely functions, as is, but it used to not do anything at all so hey that's a bonus!

>>546414165
>>546414165
>ive been using VR on linux only for years now, my man
We're discussing nativity here. Obviously overall vanilla steamvr is shit and anyone with half a brain uses monado.

>>546414523
you clearly have not paid attention to the launch they are literally shipping it with a wifi dongle that will only connect to the steam frame there will absolutely be native linux connectivity

>>546414701
>We're discussing nativity here.
natively running VR on the Frame? good luck, its weaker than the Deck
its streaming-first and meant to use Steam VR Link, which like I said barely functions as-is on Linux and wasn't even advertised as being updated, see >>546414523

>>546414863
all of the demos with the dongle were done on regular PCs, not the Steam Machine
there was no direct mention of the dongle working on Linux, as no one bothered to ask
it uses Steam VR Link, which barely functions currently
maybe they'll fix it in the next few months leading up to preorders, maybe they won't
they certainly haven't fixed up SteamVR for the last several years, that's for sure

>>546415061
they literallysa5y in the hardware announcement that it will have the dongle built into the steam machine and for all its warts steamVR is still miles better than the even more dated meta link software

>>546415334
you mean the dedicated steam controller dongle?
the box itself has 6E sure, but that still doesn't mean Steam VR Link works well right now
maybe they'll fix it, but they certainly haven't yet and it would be a broken mess if you tried it right now almost gauranteed

>>546415565
it dosnt work well cause its mostly piggybacking off off a router rooms away this will be a direct connection so it will have all the bandwidth it could ever need
i just want to dump shitty windows 11 every second using it is like a nail through my foot most recently there is a delay between me hitting shut down and the machine actually shutting down for no good reason

>>546415850
>it dosnt work well cause..,
no you're literally ignoring me as the linux VR user
It.
Doesn't.
Fucking.
Work.
Yet.
I'm not even talking about latency, just it working AT ALL
just take one look at LVRA community and you'll get a quick snapshot of complaints about SteamVR/Steam VR Link in general at any given time
there's a reason they all say to use WiVRn/Monado instead of Valve's offerings

>>546416078
ok then i will sell my quest 3 and later get a steam frame when it will work none if this changes the fact windows 11 is crashing and fucking burning and any week now we will get an update that renders millions of PCs unbootable without a reinstall
they fucking broke task manager they are breaking shut down every week is a game of "what did MS break with their shit vibe coded updates this week" im getting so fucking sick of it and the literal only reason i use it is for this quest 3

>>546416390
you could just try things out now with WiVRn on a portable or spare SSD with your Quest 3

>>546416078
As another linux troon I can confirm what this anon says. Steam VR Link doesn't work, Steam VR barely works, most of the time, until an update breaks it again.

Any other NEET NA losers wanna hang out in an hours or two?
I'm a drunk neet on a thursday and have nothing better to do.

>>546416526
i have tried it with ALVR and games have a noticeable lag even over a wire so its either i keep using fucking windows or i sell this thing CAUSE IM NOT GOIGN STAND ALONE LIKE SOME LOSER
stand alone VR is for fucking losers you NEED a PC

>>546407046
Time to host a lobby this weekend!

>>546416772
ALVR uses SteamVR which isa subpar experience on Linux
you'd want to try WiVRn
all wifi streaming is going to have latency anyway, regardless of OS or streamer software used

>>546416772
WiVRn works better than ALVR in my experience, but for some games it doesn't work at all.

No tinkering tho

https://store.steampowered.com/app/244210/Assetto_Corsa/ Is this the Assetto anons play?

>>546416948
>>546416954
when i tried WiVRn nothing wanted to start or if it did it would not send video to the headset so i gave up on it

>>546417152
that doesn't tell me enough to hazard a guess besides maybe avahi-daemon.service wasn't running

>>546417140
Yes wait or a sale of the ultimate edition.

>>546417242
is there a text based guide for it? i dont have the time or patience to watch patrickmcfuckwit69 spend 11 minutes explaining how to set it up

>>546417704
https://lvra.gitlab.io/docs/fossvr/wivrn/
should have everything

>>546417817
thank you i will save that for when i migrate this weekend and see how it works

>>546418039
if you've got a spare ssd or a portable one use that as a testbed
I did that for years before fully wiping wangblows and moving my main install over to my nvmes

>>546418164
like i said i have been using linux its self forever im fully confident in everything but VR but if i can get VR to work ill be cool
now if only valve convinces the HDMI forum to stop acting like retards about HDMI 2.1

>>546418492
>HDMI

>>546418630
thats what my main monitor uses the displayport starts giving black screens if i set the hertz over 120 unless i use HDMI

Is Assetto Corsa Rally the way to go if I want to do VR rally? People seem to like regular Assetto. I thought about EA WRC but with Windows 10 support ending I need to move to Linux and apparently it doesn't work there?

>>546418759
It's unreal 5. It doesn't have VR support yet because they can't get the performance right (just like EA WRC)

>>546418740
hey that sounds like my main monitor when it shit itself on its displayport
im using it on a displayport->hdmi connection now!

>>546418759
Play Dirt Rally 2 if you haven't played it yet.

>2.2 million views
I wonder how many people are gonna buy the frame as their first headset because of that video.

>>546418759
Assetto rally doesn't even have rally yet. Play EA WRC while you still can, then dirt rally 2 on linux

So Forefont is fun
https://files.catbox.moe/w98t5i.mp4

>>546419642
2. Not 2 million, 2.

>>546419841
are you just denying reality now?

>>546419903
Where do you think we are?
I was exaggerating, I don't think it will be many when they see the price.

>>546418759
It has no VR yet, I bought it but didn't got time to give it a shot so far, hoping to inject UEVR and make it run in VR as it is, did it for WRC before it got official VR support and it was working alright

>Have friend request in forefront
>No clue who these people are
Fronting friends, I'm sorry I don't know all the shooty anons from vrg. Maybe if I'll see you tomorrow I'll add you.
Also the friendlist feature is useless.

>>546419683
I haven't bought EA WRC or Assetto Rally yet. I'll try Dirt Rally 2 though. Shame that WRC just doesn't work with Steam hardware.

>>546420052
I'll try the same. I want to see how well UEVR works on Linux.

>>546420192
The friendlist... doesn't do anything yet. It's planned though. Just turn up to vr game lobbies more and you'll see the regulars.

>>546420192
>Also the friendlist feature is useless.
No, I can join off my friends easily.

>>546419841
both me

>>546420360
Wrong, I had a random Questie who was a chill older dude probably black from his voice add me and I've been able to join his games from the friends menu. It has a couple of seconds of being broken before it loads when you boot the game, but having crossplatform friending is neat since I'm PCVR.

is forefront worth the 20 bucks right now or should wait for more content

>>546420491
How? If I click a friend it doesn't give me an option to join.

>>546420669
It's well worth it.

>>546420669
it's 20 bucks, not 70

how poor are you

>>546420669
there's a good amount of hours to be spent playing it for $20

>>546420751
Doesn't let you if the server is full.

>>546420751
Server is full then or they're not in a server.

>>546420789
does it have a single player campaign? i dont cope well with shit talkers

>>546420669
Would you like to play BF in VR? There's no major bugs nor major VR jank outside of bolties sucking dick, the only thing it's lacking is some balance passes and more maps.

>>546419697
Where are you finding the lemmings, when I play I find the guys sniping me with a deagle, it is fun though.

>>546420936
It's also in early access so it'll get more content

>>546420789
>>546420936
alright. Ill pick it up then
>>546420875
faggot

>>546420983
no single player campaign but you can mute all voices in the settings

>>546420983
Grow some skin lol. You can always turn off voice chat anyway if you want. No, it doesn't have singleplayer.

>Steam frame no base stations

Tracking with base stations was practically perfect though. I hope whatever tech they're using is somehow an improvement.

>>546421157
>improvement
No it's just cheaper and 'good enough'

>>546420983
Nobody shit talks, they just seethe when you kill them. Understandable sometimes because their teammates can be braindead.

>>546421020
It was my 2nd match

>>546421268
Well at least the casuals will enjoy it and put more money into the market probably. Time to feed Gaben.

>>546421295
Play in the afternoons or late at night if you want to avoid squeakers but I have found the community to be mostly chill and just happy to be playing a battlefield vr

>>546421295
>Nobody shit talks

Wrong, like a solid half the lobbies I join have a classic Xbox Live feel to them with a 12 year old screaming about random shit the other team is doing while a highschooler is calling everyone who kills them a camper while calling everyone who they kill dogwater. It's fucking hilarious

if i am an experienced boneworks/bonelabs player should portal 2 VR be a problem for me?

>>546421715
Depends how much you're used to getting moved without your consent

>>546421715
no, it's great fun

>>546421593
But it is mostly good natured, nothing like a deadlock match

>>546421715
Give it a try, it's great, there is a tweak you can do to make the portals transitions behave like in the original game, with a delay while it adjust the view instead of doing instantly, you can find it in the closed issues of the github page

>>546421781
there is a reason i mentioned being an experienced boneworks/bonelab player

https://fixvx.com/honzackcz/status/1988445370330870225

fluxpose seems promising

Please I NEED a collider on this sofa :(

TOMORROW WE RESONITE
yes as you heard let's keep the exploration going! at 20:00 UTC
NO MORE CRASHES
we fixed that

here you have a compressive guide for avatars:

There is a tool to import your VRChat avatar quickly to resonite, even with facetracking settings, the tool in question is a subtool from MA (Modular avatar, and instructions are here:

https://modular-avatar.nadena.dev/docs/experimental-features/resonite-support

For modern facetra from hai support you may need this:

https://docs.hai-vr.dev/docs/products/facetra-shape-creator/modular-avatar-for-resonite-patch

It may have some issues, but we can troubleshoot them tomorrow, before

If you don't have an account still go and make them we shall teach the basics to anyone that needs it

Also add the host as a friend uzugu

>>546411146
Congratulations C for joining 20 minutes late and winning the game!

>>546416390
It's not the solution you want, but in the meantime you could swap from win11 to win11 IOT-E LTSC, or whatever it's called. Enterprise version
I don't even have microsoft store or copilot
If it's updating it does it in the background and nothing has broke that I care about
it's funny, you launch a game and MS gamebar tries to come up but it doesn't exist so you just get a warning message to download it, and you click download and it says you don't have MS store
you can just close the prompts without issue thoughever.

>>546422115
what model is that?

>>546410880
Good balling, ballers

I’m putting the tracker from my quest 3 on my SteamFrame and will be using my index controllers.

>>546425021
i might give the new controllers a go, but this was also my plan

Forefront helicopters should windshields that break when shot at, would make this clip cooler.

>>546425021
you're gonna do hybrid for an objectively worse controller? lmao
inb4 but muhh tracking behind the head

>>546423086
Thanks for hosting, king. Was fun!

hope the finger tracking works properly this time instead of ghosting all the time

>>546413750
In the video settings in SteamVR (advanced options must be enabled) you may find the HDCP Legacy 1.4 Compatibility setting or something, turn it on if you use Displayport for your headset and experience black screens. I think steamVR will prompt you to do this.

early 2026 means january and not march right
I need a new headset to replace my half falling apart vive

>>546428820
I'd guess April.

WERE SO FUCKING BACK

>>546428820
most of the world gets it January 2026
US gets it whenever the tariffs end

https://youtu.be/IcntFRYrxlU?si=OsTNRV1jDnYaMp5L
I cant wait till this gets vr support

i tested repo in vr because it was mentioned in a previous thread. it was funny as fuck for a first attempt in singleplayer. (You) should play whenever it gets hosted, or ill chop (You)r head off

>>546030090 (Cross-thread)
Christmas Carol! Big G Version
see attached for instructions
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oHQBZ0K5z9cEeACnomK-4qFCpfZ-hxu2u3q8JH53FQo/edit?gid=0#gid=0

reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsHVR6t3tYI
pic related a good idea by anon

If you need help recording we have videotakers per timezone just send them a ping in and they'll take the video for you
They will also roam from time to time but it's best if you could contact them first (spoilered are their discord account names)
NA - tothbrush flanflanjp
EU - juzuvjebot comfypillow
SEA - illexan

We will start going through meetups this week and the next to start gathering video clips :3 Thank you for your patronage

Cycling Time STINKY EDITION

https://vrch.at/bjp9m24w

:: /vrg/ Christmas Party - Secrets of Santa 2025 | December 13 ::
What is this?
Come enjoy a comfy christmas party with your fellow /vrg/ anons.
Chat, chill and warm yourselves with the other anon's as everyone gathers round to see all the gifts Santa Anons made for one another.

Beverages, snacks and orderves will be served from our tourism sensitive hosts. In a fully custom map designed for /vrg/.

TWO (2) NEW Christmas Carols created by /vrg/ for /vrg/ is also gonna be shown, lovingly crafted by everyone.
To usher in the start of the event and see all the soulful christmas cards created by anon for anon.

A special christmas tree decoration section will be held just before the climax for everyone to participate in, lead by the wonderful DRAWING CLUB group of /vrg/.

At it's climax everyone comes in and welcome's santa on the chair to receive gifts specially made for them. (??? or will we? dun dun dun)

Fully recorded by our expert Recording Crew.
Non-secret santa participants will be able to have a little token as well.

For this year the santa chair will also be open for everyone to use for roleplay purposes if they so wish.

This year's theme is: Comfy Christmas Village - You will (Not) be GRINCHED

When?
EU - 19:00 UTC
NA - 10:30 PM EST


EVERYONE in /vrg/ is Invited to come enjoy this merriest of VR tradition 8 years long coming and that includes (You)

>>546431704
Same. With EA spiraling down the drain I'm glad that other devs are bothering with rally.

>>546431704
How is VR in Evo?
I know it's not the same team making this game
I boughted evo when it launched in earlyaccess but I still haven't tried it yet because I know it'll take me a couple hours to get it set up

>>546425674
>forefront footage
wait this looks fun

>>546432958
I have not played Evo so I'm not sure honestly

>>546432958
It runs like trash, but it shows promise given how much of an early version it is. I'm pretty sure it's less muddy and blurry than Competizione. Evo is really, really early access.

>>546422145
>https://modular-avatar.nadena.dev/docs/experimental-features/resonite-support
credit where its due, i did not expect a click-to-convert solution but it just werks

>>546433531
Buy it and play it. Join on USW#119 right now!

Just busted out my Rift S after around 5 years. 2 years of disinterest and 3 years of living in a small place after my house burned down. Did I miss anything?

>>546435135
>right now
Exhausted from touching grass all day but I will give it a pickup after my paycheck tomorrow.

>>546434357
The visual issues with Competizione I had were all because of the settings required to make it run well. As far as I know, it's possible to make it look clear if you actually have a strong enough GPU to brute force through it.
It does run way worse than it should for how it looks though, and there's really no excuse for that.

Friendly reminder that there's Walkabout Mini Golf at 10PM ET (in just 2.5h). Hope to see you there.

>>546422145
>>546434552
I might try importing my vrc avatar if it's this easy

I look like this and say this

>>546435139
yeah
you missed everything

>>546439238
Great wetness in the fairy world is so real

>>546439238
So you're Asian, and your English sucks?

>>546439461
Damn. I'll go ahead and kill myself then.

>>546435139
How did it burn down?

>>546435139
There's still no games

Some more experimental VR interaction design. This is ostensibly for a system to play card games in VR(chat) reasonably. See https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/545117157/#q545209762 for some past webums and info my autism project.

I now have notecards, which while holding one in one hand, you can draw stuff on them on the other hand by pressing trigger. And the strokes stay fixed on the surface the card itself, so you can use the card as a token or notes or whatever. Also, if you hold the notecard with both grip buttons, you can resize it, including all the strokes on it. So if you sneed more detail you can make it big and draw stuff, then size it back down to a reasonable card size. You spawn new notecards from a.. bag (cube) like in Tabletop Simulator.

The drawing is still a little bit janky (no erasing yet, kind of tricky to keep on the surface of the card), but the fact they're attached to a notecard makes them a lot more useful than basic QvPen world-space drawings. I think it'll be potentially useful for playing some of the meme GMless games like microscope/kingdom, where you use notecards to keep track of main story and stuff but still need to be able to move them around separately.

Syncing theoretically works (they're linerenderers like QvPen) but I still haven't actually implemented it yet.

>>546439742
>>546439750
Wildfire. We have since rebuilt better. Still no games, huh? Hows Bonelab? I hear its kinda like VR Gmod. I still havent played Blade and Sorcery either.

>>546440385
Does your card system incorporate the other mtg anon’s card image loading system?

>>546440385
I also made some dice, which you can quasi-physically throw. Basically, after you release them, they do actually simulate in for a second in unity physics, but with a trajectory that auto-aims them towards somewhere on the surface of the playmat plus a spring joint that pulls all the dice towards it. And after another few mililiseconds, it gives up and just lerps the dice towards a final target position.

So as a result, you get something that mostly feels like throwing dice, but you don't have to actually deal with them rolling under the table or whatever. Keeping hopefully the satisfying bits of the interaction without the annoying parts. Like how Alyx gravity gloves make you feel like you're a god at catching stuff in midair, but it also fudges all the physics.

This is of course pretty useless for actual MTG (dice only come up when choosing first player and some grey-border unset meme cards), but was fun figuring out how to implement. And also opens up the system to many other board games. The way I'm loading cards in is pretty generic. Udon Stringloader loads a big binary of card image atlasses and json data (which happens to be MTG at the moment). So theoretically you can load pieces from other board games, and even custom 3d models for like meeples and stuff. So autism willing, I think I have a decent implementation of most of tabletop sim's functionality too.

>>546441120
Inspired by, but rather than loading individual card images through udon imageloader, it loads full atlas + metadata from a custom format.

>>546441006
Ahh that sucks, yeah bonelab is kind of like that, it has a mp mod that some people played for a while here, but the sp is supposedly lacking, I only ever played boneworks though, which I still recommend.
The recently released forefront is the hot and shiny current thing if you want a shooter.
Blade and sorcery finally released but it is kind of a dissapointment, good to play with every few months though but the AI is the dumbest I have seen in any game which takes the fun out of it.

>>546441731
what is this custom format you load from? Is there a specific database you pull all this data from?

>>546442672
I have a slop python script that parses an MTGO decklist, downloads all the card faces from scryfall, atlasses them into a DXT1/BC1 4k texture, and saves that plus some json about the decklist in a dumb length-prefixed binary form. Then udon stringloader can download the entire thing over http (contrary to its name it'll do bytes fine without base64 for anything), use Texture2D.LoadRawTextureData, and use the json to make all the decks and assign the atlas coordinates and stuff. I was inspired by https://github.com/vr-voyage/vrchat-glb-loader which does the same thing but for GLTF/GLB format; it also loads meshes, so I know that's possible too.

The next dumb thing I think I'm going to work on is customizing the card backs and playmat surface, then try to load wixoss decklists/cards in. That game has a couple different distinct card backs and more zones on the playmat itself you. But the system should generalize pretty well to that. Other TCGs would work too of course.

>>546443251
Holy fuck that is so smart. Please bear my children.

i’ve been trying to use glbloader for world room generation but I was getting stuck on the weird requirement of being a discord link that limits access. Perhaps it’s fine with other links like google drive as well. I wanted to check that

>>546443586
you should be able to load the glb from any url if user has "allow untrusted" enabled. Or if you need it to work in like publics, https://creators.vrchat.com/worlds/udon/string-loading/#trusted-urls could use a github pages/gist.

Lumina has the most bewildering psd I've ever seen, all the booth texture items for her are in the unitypackages, bleh.

>>546440385
i sneed this for kneeboard notes in flight sims.

The Frame looks appealing enough I'm probably gonna get one, but I refuse to do the mixed setup bullshit with vive trackers where you get another glued onto the headset. Has anyone here made the switch from a base station FBT setup to a standalone one? Any suggestions or what to expect? Pros/Cons?

>>546444258
Well if you don't get the one glued to your head, you lose calibration a lot and have to do the stupid figure 8 thing constantly

>>546444258
I know someone with VUTs and they work fine enough but have the occasional freak out pretty akin to if you occluded a base station tracker. Slimes are going to be noticeably worse and you'll hate it, but you're not paying 600 bucks for a set.

>>546443251
How exactly is this python script setup and accessed with udon? Newbie c# and python programmer here trying to learn

>>546425656
My main income is through requests for services I offer. My tracking needs to be the best it can be.

>>546444258
>I refuse to do the mixed setup bullshit with vive trackers where you get another glued onto the headset.
Then enjoy constantly drifting and constantly recalibrating retard

>>546444258
Post more Ubel pits.

>>546444258
>but I refuse to do the mixed setup bullshit with vive trackers where you get another glued onto the headset
So you're going to buy one and not use it, understood

>>546444697
>>>/e/

>>546444014
Thanks I’ll give that a try.
I want FBF to be a world containing all the worlds eventually. Where we can get lost in forever

should i get ready or not?

This might be a really dumb question, but... Is there a way to play VRchat "locally"?

I've never uploaded anything. Does Unity let you zone into a vrc world solo and explore it just like you would normally, except offline? assuming you've downloaded the world or found a rip of it.

>>546445365
who knows?

>>546445443
No. It's live service sloppa.

>>546445582
>>546445365

retarded ass 4chin
i hate that shit when you add a url to your post and post it but it posts before it loads the picture

>>546445443
I thought loading into VRC creator companion and doing "Build & test" would work but even that requires internet for some bullshit reason. I suspect the best you can do is loading the world into unity and just entering play mode, but then you can't use VR

>>546444106
buy the things
don't make the things yourself

>>546446274
i bought a few clothes for her because they weren't on ripperstore, but not sure i want to go all in when I don't even know if the model will click with me yet

>>546435135
Good forefronting.
https://streamable.com/mgvjt9
How long has it been since frag music videos stopped being a thing? I swear I haven't seen any since 2010. People still make them, right?

>>546437970
As long as there isn't an update today I'll be there (:

>>546408954

scars, light or dark against the skin?

Walkabout Mini Golf lobby is up, room code is VRG
If we're full like last week, use VRG1 for an overflow and make a post here so we can split the lobby

it is time for pypy! please join now
https://vrch.at/y6skn3s9

>>546451291
those scars look drawn on with a sharpie

>try VR chat
>it's full of zoomer normies talking about inane bullshit
I'm going to need to get extremely drunk to enjoy this.

>elite strap with battery on back
>make arms fabric so people with big head /hair can adjust
Why did it take so long for someone to come up with this?

>>546451909
don't worry unc we've got plenty of 50+ year olds around here for you to talk with

>>546452554
Where

>>546451891
I gues that's another thing, how to draw cool loking scars in pjotoshop?

50 year old daddies..

how will i lay down and watch movies on the ceiling when there is a battery pack behind my head?

>>546453001
You don't, then you just switch the strap and plug it in.

>>546453335
i think the battery connector for the steam frame is proprietary. maybe with an alibaba strap that has no battery the headset would be pretty light

does the cord get in the way when you lay down on your back with bsb cloth strap?

>>546452627
https://booth.pm/en/items/5618665
Observe and copy. Ragged edges, darker edges with lighter core, tapered ends, multiple shades of colour.
This one also has a diy textures only so you can put it into substance painter and stamp it on your model. That'll be better than using photoshop because it won't need to be manually stretched to follow the UVs like you'll have to do it in photoshop.

>>546454436
You just need to lay it down flat on the side

>>546452627
line weights, colors, more details
normal maps are a really good way to add some subtle texture to a scar
a fresh scar will have red inflammation to the areas around it and maybe nasty purple scab coloring in the center

>>546452554
I think there is like one EU over 50. NA uncs are 40 Y, B, and one of the OG gumi's

>>546457005
So how does the controller get tracked? What if I place my hand in the back?

>>546457404
Inside out tracking so it won't track if it doesn't have line of sight to the headset. It has gyros so it can estimate for a while but I imagine it'll be pretty similar to the quest tracking limitations. Index remains the best vrtranny headset out there.

>>546458092
I’m using a Quest Pro right now and I think Quest Pro is the best VRtranny headset atm

>>546458196
GXR is basically its sequel and better in every way

It's kinda crazy how the moment the quest 4 comes out, the frame will be completely dead in the water.
You could've made the argument for the index when the quest 2 came out, but unless Meta royally fucks up, the quest 4 in 1-2 years is going to be an easily better headset than the frame and cheaper

>>546458602
I've been looking at GXR and I'm worried the controllers are not as good as quest pro's controller.

Can I use qpro controller on GXR?
https://vr-compare.com/compare?h1=-MpSqv-rB&h2=Odlfnpa2w&h3=w8xCM-oPA

death to the lighthouses
https://dl.acm.org/doi/fullHtml/10.1145/3463914.3463921

>>546458602
Choose your destiny:
Quest Pro -> Galaxy XR
Quest 2 -> Quest 3 or Pico 4 or Steam Frame
Index -> BSB2

>>546458916
>Can I use qpro controller on GXR?
no

>>546458979
>mfw own 5 of the headsets mentioned
WHERE IS THE ONE RING TO RULE THEM ALL AAAAA

>>546459389
It's over... Guess I'm waiting for Quest Pro 2
Maybe I should buy Steam Frame just as a stop gap

>>546458867
yea i'm looking forward to VR hardware in 2027 as well

>>546454910
thanks ill look into it

>>546455685
Fascinating!

>>546458979
I'm going to be going from a Quest Pro to a Steam Frame solely for software. The best tranny goggles can only be built on arch troonix. I've had enough of HorizonOS, and you couldn't pay me to strap Samsung OneUI to my face. I'm tired of curry shit stinking software.

I can't wait until camera based face tracking is as good as the quest pro, especially for headsets with eye tracking cameras. Then there will be 0 point for the quest pro to exist anymore.

>>546452892
Headpats from an alcoholic eastern european middle aged man in a commie block in a cute skinny avatar...

>>546460460
Until then I'll keep enjoying my quest pro

>>546451440
Good golfing golfers
I like this one more than I remembered, but that might just be because I actually did well this time.

i wish i could foveate my rendering in real life

>>546460680
For me, I was never going to get an expensive modified quest 2 just because it had face tracking for VRChat. Such a downgrade over every other headset.

>>546460747
You actually do, you just don't notice. Just like how everything behind you is culled until you turn around.

I wish I could ogle my girl thighs and make cute poses in the mirror in real life

Can anyone explain to me why Nyx is around again? why the fuck aren't we kicking him on sight?

>>546460714
>felt like I did terrible because of a few bad tee putts
>scored well under par
I think disconnecting on the first hole got in my head

I think I recognize that name. That british faggot with the Israel-chan avatar?

State your case

>>546460714
yeah it was a fun course
thx for hosting

>>546460714
I just keep getting the high score every time, I must be a fucking genious or something

>>546453001
works fine with a pillow

>>546444429
the python script turns a decklist into a binary file that is then hostable on a file webserver (I use python -m http.server when testing but nginx or caddy would work fine too). So I only run the script whenever I want to change the decklist. Then udon stringloader reads that file through http://localhost:8000/somefile and does stuff with it.

I'll post the source to the whole mtg project eventually, once it's more complete.

>>546451674
c u next week

https://streamable.com/9ouxd8
shotguns and deagle are all you need

wtf those bananas are PEELED
get out of my chrtistian minecraft server

>>546456140

>>546463307
all within rape parameters.

>>546463307
lewd pypy confirmed

>>546463307
>>546465473
pypy cleavage required

>>546460613
I feel called out.
Am I really that stereotypical???

OK so as an Index user, why should I upgrade to the Frame?
>cable
I ERP, dance and goof around with the cable, it is not an issue for me and not a reason to upgrade.

>>546465794
snap
>cackle
pop
>rice crispeys!
>earrape from cable intensifies
oops, all the index cables are out of production! ya dun your last goof kiddo.

>>546445756
I can feel the 20-30 actual in-game FPS on this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NSjvJDe6Ic

>>546460747
fullscreen https://www.shadertoy.com/view/4dsXzM and see how much detail your eyes just ignore outside your fovea.

>>546465794
If you are content with your index, there's no reason to upgrade. Pancake lenses are a huge difference, but honestly if you don't mind the fresnel lenses, you won't even know you're missing out. but there's also this >>546465876. No one knows how long valve will continue to manufacture cable replacements for the index.

I got into VR to try and help with my crippling social anxiety, among other things, and it hasn't helped at all honestly... with each passing year I've grown more isolated and lonely. I hate alcohol and don't want to drink but I see a future where I'm able to socialize fearlessly without assistance.

>>546465983
Holy shit at most I can see 2cm radius of flowers moving.
Am I fucking blind??

>>546402349
these comics were pure soul
has someone collected them all for all /vg/ threads that had a series of these made?
i want to find as many as i can

>>546465794
You will notice the optical difference and be unable to go back to the Index's optic and panels after you stick your face in a Quest 3, and this is a Quest 3 + eyetracking and with a dedicated router dongle.

>>546466486
I haven't tried any other VR headset except Index in my life, so I guess it is for the best.
Not gonna lie, I can see the flaws of the LCD screen and godrays but they are really not a bother.
If anything, I might move to Bigscreen in a year or two.

does frame eyetracking mog bsb2 eyetracking?

>>546465586
To be totally honest with you I have never even met someone like this on VRC, sometimes I just type things for the sake of typing things. Glad to know you exist though, let's grab each other's faces some day.

>>546466673
bsb2 eyetracking still has no blinking lol
>erm just use this third party softw-
cope

>>546466778
>bsb2 eyetracking still has no blinking lol
they pushed blink publicly on their own software a while ago already
baballonia has had blink since its beta/public launch and is adding more soon in their next release
you keep parroting this shit every time like a dumbass lmao

>>546466624
If you're happy, it's whatever, but the pixel density on the Q3 and modern headsets is a massive step up from my Index to the point you can't see darkspaces between them, and I say this as someone who's still deep enough into the lighthouse ecosystem that I just bought a third one for my hybrid setup.

did anyone go thru the archive and find the most accurate
>2 more weeks
post yet?

Okay but when will the Quest 4 be released? I don't want to buy the Frame and then having a better headset released just half a year later

>>546466991
2027+

>>546466310
Why do you feel soxial anxiety with VRChat?
There are basically no consequences and your real life will not be affected if you fuck up a conversation.
VRChat is literally the perfect ground to kill your social anxiety as negative results do not have any consequences like real life.

And don't be scared of "ruining" your reputation because you sperged out - I have been playing for 4 years and I barely see the same people in public instances unless friends join me or I join friends.

>t. ex-socially anxious anon who realised I am a great conversations but I am held back irl because I have an ugly chud mouthbreathing face (people can not know that in vrchat)

>>546466406
the original comic maker who made these still lurks

>>546466862
>they pushed blink publicly on their own software a while ago already
how long is awhile ago because literally 3 weeks ago people with it still didn't have blinking
>baballonia has had
third party cope

imagine paying $1200 for an eyetracking headset from a company promising you they're gonna be working on foveated rendering in the future and they can't even figure out how to make blinking work first party lmao

>>546466972
>pixel density
My PC struggles maintaining VRC 45FPS on Index native resultion why would I want more :(

>>546467072
Ya I'm still here

>>546467119
>how long is awhile ago because literally 3 weeks ago people with it still didn't have blinking
literally a month ago, Oct 17
>third party cope
if it works, it works, and its usable cross-platform so its superior in my eyes

>foveated rendering
you're actually retarded, it requires game devs to implement this, not Bigscreen

>>546467035
Ok but what about joining /vrg/? It's all the same people forever

>>546467178
>it requires game devs to implement this, not Bigscreen
then they shouldn't have advertised that they were looking into getting it working
just more bigmeme lies

>>546467132
You can run at a lower then native resolution on the Q3 but without any screen door effect.

>>546467241
>then they shouldn't have advertised that they were looking into getting it working
they said they were looking to work with some unnamed developers to get them to implement it, as well as talking with Valve and GPU teams where possible
they would love to sell the feature, but the feature relies on external forces so all they can provide is gaze data
it has always been this way
it always will be this way

>>546467338
bigmeme lied, people died

>>546467178
Real talk, though, why isn't Bigscreen working on a foveated encoding for HDMI? They admit they can't push full resolution at 90Hz and want people to run at 72Hz for native resolution, but if they could foveated it, it wouldn't be a problem.

>>546467375
you're just retarded, man
idk what else to tell you

>>546466310
>with each passing year
You've been here for years and you're still at the "terrified of people" phase? That's pretty rough, sorry anon.
> I hate alcohol and don't want to drink
Damn that's crazy maybe you should try smashing some beers though, the percentage is low so it's fine. Wish I knew who the people complaining about this were so I could hug them. I'm also pretty autistic but I feel I've been improving a lot.

>>546465473
the woman taking the photo was twerking today

Love space.

>>546467402
they already use DSC on DP 1.4a, there's no point in looking at HDMI
their display controller for the current stack they have just can't do it with their particular panel setup, all of that shit is tightly integrated together and would basically take a redesign to replace
I don't think there's been any example of a headset foveating its actual displays themselves (rather than the game or the stream, for example) to reduce bandwidth needs; it would require very low level driver support integrated with the device and would require basically 0 latency for tracking, analyzing, and reacting for something like that to work

>>546425674
wait the pilot can shoot out of that helicopter?!

Gap moe with a deep voice/confident and friendly demeanor, with a cute/dainty/smaller avatar is exquisite.

>>546467617
Whatever, DP not HDMI then, I didn't remember what type of port they were using. I feel like it can't be that hard to take the final image and apply a foveation layer, especially since all the foveated encoding solutions are trying to do that in real time with additional latency of wireless data transmission, but I'm also not enough of a computer scientist to know how much bullshit I'm spouting.

>>546467238
tbf /vrg/ is turbo autistic about using booth avatars and they do not allow anything furry related, so they are quite limiting from the get-go. It is a very tight clique so it is a bad starting point if you ahve anxiety.
I guarantee you will have much more fun in public instances and if you feel surrounded by kids, just join 18+ ones.
>inb4 reddit accusations

>>546467867
Addendum, I mean applying the foveation before it's transmitted down the cable, essentially doing foveated encoding but sending the final product through a wire instead of wireless.

>>546467913
>they do not allow anything furry related, so they are quite limiting from the get-go.
lmao
>inb4 reddit accusations
looks like you already know where you need to go back to then, creature

>>546467913
I'd prefer to be with turbo autistic booth avatars than publics desu

>>546467913
> It is a very tight clique
It really isn't, this has been one of the most welcoming group of people I've met in a while. Maybe you're joining the wrong instances or maybe you just refuse to take your furry avatar off?

>>546468005
I don't use furry avatars myself but even hate-speech allowed group instances let furries come in so idk what is the deal with you guys

It is fine tho, different groups exists for different reasons, one day I will join you guys with my booth avatar and you will never know

>>546467035
Looking at the world through the lens of consequences and punishment isn't great I think. It's just really difficult to overcome anxiety and it's hard to even describe. I panic when there is a join notification on instances I'm in, but there is something very sad about doing things in invite instances (with no one to invite).

what do people think when they see a low-rank user with a years old account?

>>546468304
There are a fuckton of people here that don't use booths, what are you talking about?

>>546467913
I dont go to vrg anymore BECAUSE of the furryshit apologizers

>>546468558
>Look at that strong independent chad that braves the digital wastes alone

>>546468558
>what do people think when they see a low-rank user
"Must... molest..."

>>546468558
>panic when there is a join notification on instances I'm in
why?
>what do people think when they see a low-rank user with a years old account?
nothing, nobody cares.
turbo trannies usually set shield settings to auto-mute visitor or new user ranks but it is nothing personal, just a way to weed out mostly kids and "le epic trolle xD" retards

>>546468558
>what do people think when they see a low-rank user with a years old account?
That's me...

>>546468706
>low rank user
>PCVR
>feminine voice
when you ERP with them for the first time it is always peak cinematic erotica kino I just love it. Nothing feels better than this.

>>546468940
>always
Slut

>>546469338
I am only a slut because nobody wants an actual loving relationship in vrchat. Even new users move on because there is always someone better, someone who is online more often (I work fulltime).
Better to get freaky with someone than depressed and cheated on (again)

>>546469627
I fucking hate it that vrchat dating pipeline is basically the same as irl but like 5 times as fast.
Can we blame normies for this?

>>546469627
I mean, it's all just playing pretend anyway, but just lying down and accepting extreme promiscuity even in our virtual homo fantasy world seems a little dark to me.

>>546470438
and just like in real life i cannot pull anybody

>>546467238
Imo join the activity instances hosted on the thread. They are the most welcoming of new comers as they have an activity they like doing together.
Like explo, drawing, pypy etc

>>546470585
>just lying down and accepting extreme promiscuity even in our virtual homo fantasy world seems a little dark to me.
What are the alternatives? I am an ugly male irl.
It is either becoming an ultimate beta provider cuck for a woman just so I can have kids or enjoy a quiet life with some fun in VRChat.

>>546470712
have you tried being cute?

>>546470780
-get rich/fuck mad sluts irl, impregnate many surrogates to spread the chuddiness genes
-hold off on getting too romantical with anyone in VR for as long as it takes and find your fellow incel manwife that will be your emotional soul mate.

Maybe not many people actually act like this, but someone has to get it started.

>>546470712
Have you tried getting more jims

>>546444258
>but I refuse to do the mixed setup bullshit
You either do mixed setup or you get a pico and pico trackers.There is no other option. Yet, anyway, the frame is an open platform and camera-anchored IMUs are a distinct possibility. Someone could literally hack in pico trackers to work.

>>546466310
Some people never get over it anon. Best you can do is just force it with some alcohol until you get comfortable with a small group of people then lay off the drinking.

>>546466486
>You will notice the optical difference
Did and didn't like it. Pancakes feel shit.

>>546472615
(You)

One thing I found out from the valve interview is that meta fucked up ther lensds possibly on purpose to make them slightly blurry to hide screen door. lmao

>>546466486
I went from Index to Bsb2, and back to index while waiting for my RMA. I can notice the visual clarity but 'unable to go back' is bullshit. The refresh rate is so much better, comfort is better, and most of all I've learned larger FOV goes a long way. I noticed the quality in the first day, now I'm back to not noticing or caring much.

>>546473125
It's weird that refresh rate isn't as important to me in VR
I've been a hz-snob since like 2012 and I feel visible disgust at anything below 120hz flat.
but I spend 90% of my time in VR at 90hz and it's fine. I go up to 120 if it's a quest port but it isn't THAT much smoother. maybe I'm just getting old

>>546470996
I'm so cute that I get childzoned.

>>546474212
it's over

>>546473773
Something I’ve noticed is low frame rate in VR is way more tolerable than flatscreen, I sure can feel it chug but not as hard as when I’m playing flatscreen games. I don’t think it’s an age related issue unc so don’t feel bad about it

>>546474212
As long as you are verified 18+ and your avatar is not a literal child, lets freak together :)

>>546474212
Good. Quit making a bad name for us childbros. No erping until we grow up

>>546475403
>verified
>paying money to dox yourself

>>546475952
b-but muh phone sex with obese women

>>546475131
Hmd and hand controllers predict where they are gonna be at frame presentation time, so they are not behind, they are were they are supposed to be even with low fps.

>>546475952
If you are not doing anything illegal in VRChat, why are you scared?

>>546476080
Notto disso shitto again
How about because I don't want my ID documents to be in another breach of a jeet tech support company and used to take out loans in my name

>>546476080
because the third party provider sells data to literally anyone who pays them enough. Advertisers, law enforcement, quasi-law enforcement, debt collection agencies, political organizations, other data brokers...

>>546469627
STOP USING VRCHAT AS A DATING SERVICE
ITS JSUT A VIDEO GAME
you guys will give xivtrannies a run for their money on being cringe

>>546476080
what is the justification as to why they can't use payment providers for age verification?

>but what if a parent pays for their child's VRC subscription??
clearly it's everyone's fault but the parent's that the parents are buying subscription services for their children without understanding what they are purchasing
>and also in this hypothetical scenario, a child might simply use their parent's VRC account that's been age verified
>and I am sure there aren't already people trying to sell verified VRC accounts!

>>546476928
>expecting people to not ERP and e-date in online chatroom
First day on the Internet?

Isn't infrared bad for your eyes? I feel like it wouldn't be a good idea to have infrared lights aiming directly at your eyes on a VR headset

>>546467171
we need a new one, in honor of gabe's new headset and half life 3

>>546477898
Please, do not tell this guy about natural sunlight reflecting off surfaces.
He will never leave his house again.

>>546477982
Look directly at the sun and tell me how that goes

>>546477898
Yes and no. There are safe limits. Turns out the SUN is actually quite a strong emitted of IR radiation and if your LEDs are WAY below that then it's actually fine.

The technical version of the above is below. The safe limits for prolonged exposure are 200W/m^2. IR LEDs are usually below this.

>>546478046
What the fuck how do I block infrared out of my windows then

>>546477898
There are standards defined for the amount of infrared light you can shine on your eye. It's a concern, but VR follows them, so hopefully it's fine.

>>546477982
My one problem with it is that in real life, sun blasts infrared in your eyes, but your pupils are very small due to overall brightness. in VR, it's possible you're playing a dim/dark game where you get next to no "normal" light, so your pupil is open all the way out, and then infrared is still illuminating your wide open eye pupil, so eye is gathering more of it. I feel like current standards might not have been taking this scenario into account, though I don't know for sure.

>>546478046
Sorry, 100W/m^2

https://otmm.lumileds.com/adaptivemedia/17897dc0449b31dfd49e3f49b465795f6d58285e

for more details.

help i looked into my TV remote's emitter when i pressed a button and now i cant see anything

>>546478182
>I feel like current standards might not have been taking this scenario into account, though I don't know for sure.
I think they do since the standards are for lamps used indoors. It's a set of directives for indoor lighting and other devices. It's also used to compare things like foundry workers who work indoors but get exposed to a LOT of IR from the molten metal, so their pupils will be wide open because it's kinda dark but receiving IR.

>>546477898
Bro do not google snow blindness bro

>>546478272
That makes sense, I hope you're right. To be honest, risk doesn't feel all that huge logically speaking, I didn't hear of any VR-related IR eye damage yet and I assume it'd be huge on the news if anyone would end up getting it.

The risk is very low, it's just that if I'd kill my eyes because I wanted to move them in VRChat, I'd feel really, really, really fucking stupid about myself. That's the reason i had a potentiometer in eyetrack to always adjust for absolute bare minimum of infrared light that still allows it to work, that's also the reason why I ended up not using it in the long run. It's not that it's a serious danger, it's just that it'd feel horrendously fucking stupid if it'd ever happen

>>546477898
open flame like candles also emits a lot of infrared

>>546478140
polarizing filters. Infrared also doesn't bounce equally well off all surfaces, but I don't know the details. I know ultra violet doesn't bounce off most surfaces at all, unless it's a really shiny or white surface. As the other anon hinted, snow is both, and is very dangerous, both for eye damage and sunburns in weird places.

>>546478990
Imagine becoming blind due to excessive gooning in VRChat :(

>>546478990
One thing you should pay attention to is that BECAUSE things like the steam frame do have IR in them, they need to actually comply with IEC 62471 and in European Directive 2006/25/EC and so they will need to have stats on the emission of IR they have. They're legally required to provide that information to anyone who asks + it might just be available from the licensing and certification process they had to go through. If you're worried you can actually look it up.

>quest 2 faggot
>waiting on deckard/frame rumors for years
>skipped quest 3 because the streaming tech still kinda mid
>Frame's streaming will be heaps better with dongle and eyetracking
>more controller buttons, comfy lookin'
>getting excited for decent midrange shit upgrade
>still 2018 screen door effect.
>STILL FUCKING SCREEN DOOR
Guess I'll just let zuck watch me jack off in colour on a Q3 like I should have 2 years ago since it's just a side grade anyway

>>546478182
>There are standards defined for the amount of infrared light you can shine on your eye. It's a concern, but VR follows them, so hopefully it's fine.

Can we see health and safety report and measured IR irradiance documentation for Quest Pro?

>>546479790
Just wait for Pico 5 or the real Deckard in 2 weeks.

>>546479790
The reason the Q3 has less screen door is because they messed up the optics to add blur so you can't tell. Valve made clarity a focus above all else, and it will make things clearer even if there's some slight SDR. On my INDEX I have to focus to see it at all, so a 25% density boost is like uuuuhh okay.

>>546479809
Doesn't mean I know where they are. I think you'd actually have to contact Meta and get them to share the compliance.
https://connect.tobii.com/s/article/Do-Tobii-Pro-products-follow-the-IEC-62471-standard-for-light-emission-Is-there-any-safety-issue-with-eye-tracking?language=en_US
I found one for Tobii though.

>>546480649
Wait, Index is supposed to have SDR?
fuck I might be blind

>t. 4000 hours in vrchat with index

>>546480789
Yeah it's pretty easy to see dude. I mean I don't notice it when using it like normal but if I go somewhere with a flat color and focus it's easily there.

>>546466406
Hehe im mentioned in this pic

>>546480789
Didn't notice it until I put in lens inserts. It's there but it's so small you just mentally filter it away. You'll only notice it if you concentrate on it.

Looks like another 6 years of index for me

Hey DCS world.
What the fuck?
I just wanted to try a flight sim in vr, would i be downloading the chemical makeup of every section of armour down to the percent of black paint vs green paint on a single jet?

>>546481312
Same. I just hope I can buy another tether in 2-3 years because mine will break anyway just from regular use like it did the last 4 years.

>>546481329
try vtolvr
flight sim worlds exist in vrc too but they are really shit

>>546481329
welcome to autism

Over my entire index lifespan I've bought enough controllers and cables to make up a frame of value. I'm switching because I'm not retarded.

>>546481508
everyone who says they're not switching will switch 1 month after the shilltubers and their friends convince them they're missing out

>>546481460
>flight sim worlds exist in vrc too but they are really shit
Yeah they're not great. Floating point values really messed them up.
>vtolvr
Wishlisted, i'll check again next steam sale. VR flight isnt a priority now and i have plenty other games to play.

>>546481508
Over my ~5 years I needed to buy (cause no more RMA)
>2 cables
>2 replacement controllers (my fault hitting them into the walls so much desu)
>1 replacement basestation
>1 refurbished HMD since my original died
Not too bad I'd say. Even better considering I got the full kit for half off cause I bought it from a racing sim autism boomer and his wife wouldn't let him get another VR headset until he sold his Index.

>>546481708
There is nothing you are missing out with your Index as far as actual VR is concerned.

>>546481901
except resolution
and pancake
and no wire
and a potential plethora of steamvr updates targeted at the new product
and being able to leave your room to take a piss
and third party headstraps
I do wish it was higher resolution/oled though

>>546481708
I have a quest and will probably not switch to the frame, but I will feel really bitter about it because I do want eye tracking, a non-android OS, and the other features.

>>546481508
>4 years
>3 controller replacements
>2 base station replacements
>2 tether replacements (1 out of warranty, had to buy)
>headset itself, surprisingly, not a single issue after all this time

I fear the day one of the controllers or base stations shit themselves because it is going to be expensive outside warranty.

>>546465983
his videos are good but i can't stand his voice

>>546482038
if you already have quest I think there's less of a reason to swap
I do really like the dual antennas and the controllers though

>>546482030
None of these features justify abandoning 1000$+ setup I already have with the Index.
>sunk cost fallacy
Perhaps, but most importantly we need to see the cost of the Frame first.

>>546481901
Except the frame can run APKs. And the 60 other things the frame has over the index.

>>546465983
Alt-tabbing back here makes the whole 4chan future dark thing fucked.
YOU DESTROYED MY EYES ANON!

valve will release linux optimized steam game in 2 weeks

>>546482187
if there was an off-the-shelf eye tracking upgrade for the quest, and if it was possible to replace the shitty meta os, then I could be happy with the quest for a long while I think. Dual antennas is a nice feature too but I don't think it's as necessary for people who already have a dedicated wifi setup.

>>546482030
>no wire
All quest niggas in VR needs to hook themselves up after 2 hours. And speaking of, did they say how long the frame will last before needing to plug?

>>546481329
Full install of MSFS is close to 400GB, just FYI.

>>546482610
>did they say how long the frame will last before needing to plug?
Not directly. The battery is 21.6W/h and the TDP target for the frame is 7W. It HEAVILY depends on what you're doing on the headset but expect 3hours if standalone and more if just PCVR streaming.

GTA 6 will have SteamBR support

>>546482268
>>546482610
I think wireless is pretty neat
it takes me a long time for anything to come in the mail, so my first 2 months of VR were tethered so I could charge the Q3
once my hotswap batteries came in it was like a baptism for "vr-magic"
I started bumping into everything in the room again like it was my first 2 weeks
It's subtle, but the wire down your back does kill some level of immersion
more than the latency of being wireless? probably not but maybe debatable
Frame had low latencythan quest in tech-jesus' video though

>>546482817
Big if true

>>546482610
>>546482741
>>546482868
how do people have these marathon vr sessions
after about 90 minutes my feet hurt

>>546482957
By not being fat. Also having a chair. gym flooring and bed nearby is good

>>546482957
>he hasn't ERPed for 5 hours straight powered by nothing but lust for another person's avatar
low testosterone moment

valve will publish linux drivers and fix AMD PCVR

>>546482957
i wear running shoes when I VR
and i also used to hydrofoil for 3hrs every day after manual labor job
I used to be able to do a backflip unprompted.
vr actually detrimental to my health because it's not intense enough
I do think it's fucking up my neck/knees though, but not because of like, the weight or strain of it. I have really bad posture in VR. something about turning with sticks and I just lock my knees for like 4 hours, probably slouch too

>>546482957
Have you tried not being a fatass

steam cube thing market share will nudge developers to start making games that are optimized for linux and affordable hardware

>>546483248
Deck already did that.

>>546478990
that's not even a human eye

>>546483459
yea but they will do it some more now

I don't think you guys realize how fucked valve is if meta decides to just put the battery in the back of the quest 4

>>546483008
>>546483197
I'm trying... I lost about a lot of weight this year but then my diet fell apart and it sucked being tired all the time. I'm struggling to get back on the 900 calorie deficit I was doing.

>>546483508
that's why valve will release linux steam game

>>546483508
I don't think you get that the quest 4 isn't coming

>>546483587
Don't do a 900 calorie deficit for long term weight loss. That's hard cutting and you should only be doing that for short bursts at a time. Go down to 300-400 calorie deficit.

>>546483706
The quest 4 will be here in September/October and it will have a higher resolution, pov, and better lenses than the frame will being cheaper

>>546483827
It's getting delayed until it gets cancelled, anon.

>>546477898
wait til you find out the lighthouses scanning your room constantly are infrared laser diodes

Some redditor literally repaired their 1.0 VIVE Basestation with an old laser from a cd burner.

>>546483827
the quest 4 will be ai enabled and more social

>>546483931
Sounds like cope

>>546483984
See you in september, no wait, october. Early 2027! Early-mid 2027! It's okay they cancelled the pro 2, the quest 4 is coming before christmas 2027! Frame killer on the way.

>>546483808
I'm not sure if the calculators were accurate and it was really a 900 calorie deficit because I wasn't losing weight at a rate consistent with that much of a cut. From the rate of weight loss, an average of 650 calorie deficit was more likely, more some days, less others

>>546484308
Weight loss is never a consistent burn, it's always the week long averages that matter.

>>546483984
https://www.uctoday.com/immersive-workplace-xr-tech/meta-quest-4-release-date-price-and-what-it-means-for-businesses-in-2026/
You have been breathing cope for so long you can't even taste it any more.

>>546484358
yeah that's what I read, and due to work scheduling my diet would vary some days too. I kept it up for 6 months. Just needed to do it another 12-18 months at that rate...

>>546484419
Wow a retarded liberal arts degree holder is speculating based on nothing surely this means meta will quit VR

it's not just fat its being generally unfit and having weak support muscles that are involved in standing and bad posture where your weight isn't sitting on top of your spine as it should be and also fat

>>546484919
It means the quest 4 is transforming into XR first, VR as a distant second, and its transformations are purely at the whims of what the top brass want out of their XR projects, which will be packing as much AI garbage into a AVP-lite headset as they can.

>>546481870
>3 years
>no replacements
>just a bunch of additional accessories for the quest 2

it just werks

meta will train the humanoid ai military based on your face and body movements

>>546485108
jokes on them I suck

>>546485170
tesla housemaid robots randomly try to suck your dick nobody knows why but this is why

>>546485108
>zuck's murderbots keep staring down at their chest

>>546482957
Have you tried not being a limp wristed sissy?
I'm fat and have hard floors, but I can stand for around 6 hours before I need to sit down.

>>546485108
Ironically enough you can tell VRChat is completely ignoring their MILLIONS of hours of real human mocap data because they're still desperate for money by selling marketplace junk and items.
They are sitting on the world's largest supply of high quality natural, real human mocap data and they aren't monetizing it. They are actually blitheringly retarded.

>>546485247
I'm not paying 20g's for a robot if it isn't going to do that at least a little bit
I think a robot will be my next big purchase though, maybe 2-4 years from now
I'm sticking to my 2014 frontier until it dies, new car seems like shit now, (unless I can get a BYD for 8 grand or something)

>>546485568
i'd like to thank vrchat for not monetizing every little bit of me

>>546485482
We love our sissies here, don't make fun of them.

Given enough time, could you jailbreak the AVP M5 and make Steam OS run on it?

>>546485958
I'm assuming the 'within enough time' is limited to within like 10 years or so. The answer is no.

>>546485108
>2030, ww3
>combat robot charges at you, slams you against the ground, and sits on top of you
>it wraps its robo hands around your neck and starts choking you
>as your consciousness fades, the last thing you feel is repeated hip slams against your dick because it was trained on xXCutesyFemboy69Xx erp data and the closest association to choking was riding erp
the future looks abstract

>>546485568
thats probably why facebook tried to make a vrchat and a meta quest 3

>>546485638
>20g's for a robot
a guatemalan woman once a week doesn't cost this much

>>546486218
No they're not smart either, remember how hard they resisted legs?

>>546485958
No, and given how you are even asking that question you don't know what jailbreaking is or how computers work.

>>546486156
yea plus it talks in reddit posts and sounds like its 12

>>546486441
There is likely an exploit you can find to jailbreak it to root the system, but then it's running Apple's processor with yet another special snowflake instruction set, which linux could be adapted to, but adapting steamOS specifically and not 'generic linux' would be the hard part. It's possible but not within a reasonable timeframe.

>>546486361
yea but the robot comes without the feeling of anxiety or guilt that the femoid does
okay, maybe 20g robot not a good choice for doing the dishes.
I do have this idea to get one of those lazer rust removers for 40k and open a business at the shipyard with a couple of 20k robots to do the lazer rust removing
then i can just sit in the truck forever and 20k robot is definitely cheaper than real employees long term

>>546486391
people bullied mike zuckerberg into putting legs on the little weeble people in his app that nobody wants to use

>>546486573
>feeling of anxiety or guilt that the femoid does
what? my guatemalan cleaning lady does not have feelings

>>546486762
i have a russian cleaning lady and she looks at me all sad and disgusted every other week
i just hide in my room

>>546486859
have you tried having sex with her?

non-vrfaganon here. (that's too many qualifiers on anon) So what's the consensus on the valve frame? Seems like a good entry level thing to pick up?

>>546486859
thats sounds fucking awesome i love being rich

>>546487106
no
will that fix it?

>>546487127
i have a quest 2 and i will buy it ASAP and i hope valve continues to fix linux gaming forever

>>546487127
Entry level, no. Good, yes.

That's about it.

>>546486859
I would also be sad if I were born a slav

>>546487127
As don't own any VR device yet then yes, it's good entry level. Think of it as a better Quest 3.
It's not a product for people with 3 other headsets gooning 24/7 in VRC, but it's perfectly serviceable for normies.

>>546487127
It seems like a solid choice, but it's underwhelming for most of us because it's not high-end. Unless price goes too high, I'd assume it's going to become the replacement for a Quest 3, which is currently the "grab it for your first headset" recommendation. Still, all we know now is general specifications, so let's see how it goes once it's out.

>>546487167
it will either fix it or it will make it worse

>>546487421
gambler's mindset

People think the frame isn't high end but they look at the screen resolution and go PFFFT THAT'S NOT HIGH END and forget about the 900 other things on the headset that make it high end, as well as how good that screen actually is.

>>546487492
he could always get a different one

>>546487127
Just get the quest 3 nigga

in 2 weeks valve will announce the pro versions of the frame and the weird cube thing, the pricing, and tease a trailer for half life bob saget

>>546487127
It will be an EXCELLENT 2023 headset at $800 minimum. It will be the best standalone headset for like 6 years or more, but it is NOT entry level.

>>546487298
Neat.
>>546487310
What makes it not entry level? it seems like pretty much: "just plop it on your head and go, nothing else needed"? And they did say it was gonna be cheaper than index.
>>546487390
>>546487417
I guess I'll have to wait for the price anyway. I keep thinking about VR, but I'm trapped in an endless cycle of: "just wait for the next headset release", then that headset is out for a bit and it's: "No don't buy that! Buy the next gen of this other one that's coming out soon!" repeat forever. I've liked the steam controller, and how valve supported that for a long time, going with a valve product seems to make sense to me because they're not gonna dick me over in some unforseen way.

>>546487732
>It will be the best standalone headset for like 6 years or more
Lmao

>>546487747
>entry level
that's a made up term specifically for this website and it has no meaning. don't listen to him he's fat

>>546487747
>What makes it not entry level?
The price. The actual device itself is going to be a great 'just works' headset and it will be highly recommended to people who want to get into VR who have the money to do so.
When most people say 'entry level' they mean affordable and reasonably polished, and that's the quest line.

you don't actually have a decision to make you just want to come in here and type and read about the headset that you can't buy right now

>>546485108
>Robots in the future will think that laying down in big cuddlepiles for hours is normal human behavior

>>546487747
I was in the same position as you anon
I followed VR from the first occulus and said
>I won't get it until it's at least 1440p
when index came out i was living in hotels and too mobile and felt like the lighthouses weren't the right fit
I got Q3 on release and i literally shit my pants when the virtual screen popped up in passthrough
people can tell you all day that
>it's 3D
and you think you get it. Then you try it and it fucking blew my socks off. I instantly regret not getting an index. I guess the advantage waiting this long is i had a backlog of cool VR shit to try
point is, I don't think you'll be disappointed with Frame. At all.
You'd probably think a Q2 or Q3 is the bee's knees

>>546488094
>people come to a forum for discussion.
Fucking brilliant insight, socrates.

>>546488148
instantly regret not getting an index ON RELEASE**
i wouldn't want one now over Q3

i would like to buy your quest 3 from you including cum

>>546488859
what assurance do I have that you're not trying to clone me?

>>546488859
cum comes free of charge as the headset was only used to goon in vrchat

>>546488993
Sperm doesn't have enough DNA to clone you. It's enough to fingerprint you though.

>>546488859
This but also can the seller include 2 years of frozen semen for me to thaw and enjoy

Does the Frame exclusively use it's inbuilt hardware or does it make use of my PC's hardware when leashed? If it's the former it'd be a straight downgrade for me.

>>546489145
but if you put sperm in bagina it makes a 50% clone?
somethings not adding up

>>546489307
It's literally built from the ground up to do both, anon. Also it can't be leashed, there's no cabled option. Wireless only.

>>546489217
Would you accept a Q2 with 2 years of fresh semen?

>>546489431
will I need a separate router like a questcuck or is the dongle enough to make it run smoothly?

>>546489534
You cannot possibly produce 2 years of fresh semen because it would cease being fresh after your second hour of producing it. It's why you freeze it, so it remains reasonably close to how it was when fresh.

>>546487127
>Seems like a good entry level thing to pick up?
Depends on what you look for, but yes.
It's the only standalone headset built with "streaming first" philosophy, so probably would be the best wireless pcvr experience out of the box.
Lot of us are disappointed at it because we are a very specific niche, and even then the headset is still somewhat appealing.
However, if you are very interested getting into VR *right now*, there's not many reasons to wait for it to release, just get a quest3 or a pico, or a used quest2/psvr2

>>546489680
The dongle is enough for it to run flawlessly. Although if you have a wifi network it can connect to that instead.

>>546481329
Yes

>>546407046
yes because someone said it has a vr mod

vr made me gay

>>546492582

>what should we charge for these poducts?
>why not just announce them and then ask an AI scraper chatbot in 2 weeks?

>>546492959
strong desire to rape on sight

https://youtu.be/h7RDqmfZUwo

>>546494576
can you mod whores into the game

>>546495310

>>546495398
unbelievably based

>>546494576
would be kino if we could shoot through thin wooden walls at the start of the video

What's on the EUVRFPS menu tonight? Forefront?

>>546496729
ERP

>>546496958
How do you ERP in an VRFPS? Does the worst player in a round of Instagib have to suck off everyone else?

>>546497130
Yes, get on your knees and make your head movements work

>>546465946
USB connector in the back that passes data + power so you can add battery packs in your pockets or stay leashed if you so choose

>>546498203
The speakers are inside the facial interface behind the plastic which is novel compared to all the other quest clones that put the speakers in the bands over your ears

will the Frame save VR gaming and soothe the thread schizo?

>>546498203
it only has 1 hour of battery at max load (ie playing any video game) so a battery pack is going to be absolutely mandatory
retarded how they didnt include an official one but I guess its a way to offload the price to the consumer while making it look cheaper for the clueless

>>546498523
>will the Quest 3.1 save VR gaming
no

>>546498641
That's at max clocks running native shit. Everyone here will be using it for PCVR except maybe for native walkabout minigolf.
You can draw 5-7Whr for streaming and be just fine and last 3+ hrs

I wonder if Bigscreen is going to be forced to sell their own base stations and controllers to stay alive. We could finally get a refresh on the index controllers that don't have drift......

>>546499006
I'd assume Vive will keep going for the time being, pucks are probably their #1 money maker, kek

>>546498641
1 hour for absolute worst case max load, 4 hours for low-load like streaming.

Oh yeah I'm planning on another coordinated forefronting sessions TODAY at 1900 UTC.
Same kind of plan as last time:
BE READY to jump into a server at 1900 UTC. We'll stare at the sever list for a bit until we get impatient and jump into the first 0/32 EU ALL MAPS that appears. This could be at 1901. these servers fill up in like 3-4 minutes.

Few notes: Switch team got changed so you can't force it any more, so.. keep checking until it works. It's in the area where you change your squad.

>>546496729
Forefront. Someone already said they were doing a lobby today.
>>546499358
And here it is.

more like forefrotting lmao

am I trippin, or did I rear somewhere that apparently Valve said the Frame would be priced around their "competitors"?

I think I heard someone say that. Wouldn't that be prices around the Meta 3?

>>546500149
nigga you bought like 5 vive trackers, you order 1 pair of index controllers every few months and you own 3+ lovense devices you will be able to afford the frame.

If it's $500 it's a day 1 buy for me

>>546499006
Basestations, no. Controllers, yes. The next bigscreen will almost certainly have a SLAM version. And Vive will still continue to sell basations for a prosumer audience and VR arcades.

>>546499358
I'm game, haven't touched it since last week though so I'm going to be on my noob weapons still.

>>546499006
Shitfall made their knuckle-shaped Touch controllers. It's not great but the few people that bought them say they're built like old CV1 Touch controllers (basically Nintendium).