/vrgg/ - Virtual Reality Gaming General #25

Found out that being near sighted also affects VR. Figured it didn't. Need to get some lenses.

>>395559617 (OP)
I don't think this webm counts as virtual reality gaming.

>>395561139
I remember anons saying that the lenses are focused at 2 meters, so if you are near sighted below that threshold you will need lenses.

>>395561169
What it is then?
Looks like gaming in virtual reality for me.

>>395561282
>are focused at 2 meters
Aren't they focused on infinity?

>>395561139
consider contacts before insert lenses since you'll need custom lenses for every headset each time you upgrade

>>395561680
>>395561282
>Aren't they focused on infinity?
They are. 2 meters claim is bullshit.
https://youtu.be/YWA4gVibKJE?t=313

WoW was revolution in mmorpgs for flat gaming, still around today and popular.
I hope we will see some mmorpg like that for VR soon
the ones that exist now just aren't there yet. It will be pretty challenging designing combat and rpg mechanics around physical movement of the player without making it too complicated or too boring after a week

>>395561769
Yes but also you don't have to put the lenses in your eyes, and you're never upgrading from an index anyway let's be real.

>>395559617 (OP)
Is that Onago Touch? I could never figure out how to control it properly.
>>395561769
I considered get a load of one day contact lenses but in the end it seemed like it would be cheaper and easier just to get the custom vr lenses.

>>395563803
>I hope we will see some mmorpg like that for VR soon
It will come. We're kind of getting close to the Everquest stage with games like Zenith, although Zenith is not that good. It takes a few stabs from a few developers before that one game or application comes along and everything clicks. EQfags don't @ me

>>395564169
>Is that Onago Touch?
It's koi-koi vr, which released last month.

>>395564327
>It will come.
It will not. Big game devs forgot how to make games properly and indies wouldn't be able to support the infrastructure required for a good MMO.

>>395564504
>It will not. Big game devs forgot how to make games properly and indies wouldn't be able to support the infrastructure required for a good MMO.
Zenith is an independent developer not backed by any huge publisher as far as I know, maybe just VC money. VR operates more on word of mouth, you're not going to have a WoW-like game launch out of the gate to a million players. If the game is good, the players will come and the devs will scale up accordingly. You have to be especially risky operating service games in this economy now.

>>395564676
Zenith is also trash.

>>395564729
Neither is everquest. That's why I made the suggestion. It's new and novel and it sucked in a few people, but it wasn't quite as groundbreaking as WoW. Zenith adds some interesting things to the genre such as gesture mechanics that you can only really do in VR, but overall it's not a very good game or even a good MMO. I stayed clear of the Zenith hype because it just seemed like a lot of sqeakers and anime degenerates getting suckered into the whole
>BRO BRO IT'S SWORD ART ONLINE NOW HOLY SHIT BUY IT BRO I DON'T WANNA BE ALONE

>>395564327
I still remember when they announced that the new Everquest would support VR, so much for that

>>395564371
Is it any good? It looks like a crappy vn with no english translation.

>>395565146
>I still remember when they announced that the new Everquest would support VR, so much for that
Are you talking about Everquest Next? Holy shit that feels like 10 years ago at this point.

Happy 9th anniversary, payday bro's

>>395565205
It's not. If you don't know japanese, there is no point playing.
I wrote about it in the last thread. >>395458686 (Cross-thread)

>>395565408
Oh yeah i remember that now, shame.

>>395559617 (OP)
what game is this

>Captcha
4AR SX

>>395567943
Koi-Koi VR.

Tried to play with video stabilization, works surprisingly well.
>>395559617 (OP)

>Into the Radius
>Sneak up on top of a hill overlooking objective zone
>Oh. I found a monocular!
>Shove shit around in my backpack and find it
>Look through it
>Just like real life, its jittery and unsteady and damn near impossible to see out of
Oh yeah. I'm ridiculously unsteady. There's no smoothing toggle in Into the Radius, is there?

>>395573692
Not that I'm aware of, no.
Have fun trying to use scopes :^)

I do not understand H3VR. I tried bros, but these controls suck ass.

>>395577449
It's only really playable on Index controllers because they have enough inputs. Ironically the dev still uses Vive wands.

>>395577449
There is nothing to understand. It's shit and dev is a fat retard.

>>395577449
What's wrong with them? I'm using the Quest 2 and everything works pretty good. Just takes a little time to learn the slide release stuff. But I also use arm swinger, the other smooth motion one that you have to swap between control schemes is dildoes.

>>395577804
Most people aren't armswingpilled.

>>395578346
Is that really it? Weird. I kinda want to hear more though.

If you don't like the controls for H3VR, why? Legit curious. I recommend it to a fair amount of people, I feel kind of bad if there's a lot of people that fall out with it because of controls.

>>395578891
A lot of people are retarded and just copy the opinions of others, so I wouldn't care too much.

>>395577449
I use the smooth motion controls. They're kind of fucked up if you want to use both sticks for movement at the same time. What I usually do is have my left controller enabled for walking then physically move my body in the real world. This leaves my right hand with the ability to use the gun specific controls and to telekinesis shit to my hands. It's a weird fucking control scheme that isnt great and soured me on the quest controllers. I want more buttons don't care where you put them.

>people cry about buttons because a fat retard dev made a trash control scheme
many such cases

>>395580314
Why do you object so much to more buttons?

>>395580727
>*whips out machete and pistol*
>nothing personnel, kid

>>395580727
pspspspsps

>>395580914
Because I thought that we need more buttons too, but then realized that we just need better control schemes.

>>395581078
Your 'better control schemes' include removing basic gun functions because they don't fit on buttons.

>>395580727
>Attacks you on sight all game
>Suddenly wants to be friends
I ain't falling it

>>395581463
Everything that is easily available on a gun (without moving your hand from the handle) is already available.
Even if you ignore fingertracking, with just 2 digital buttons you have 4 combinations, so even if you go full-retard you can still bind everything.

>>395581971
Bolt release is usually paired with magazine release which is a terrible way to do it, indicative of the fact there's at least one button missing from the controller.

>>395581051
>>395581840
Weird. I put my knife/melee weapon on my left chest pocket. I keep my probes and detector on my arms. Maybe my equipment hitboxes are just weird, but I have to reach around to the far side of my arm to grab whatever is there. Hard to do in the heat of the moment but yanking my melee weapon off the left side of my chest is so much quicker.

>>395582538
One of those webms if from version 1 where you couldn't change what was in each slot.

>>395582668
Oh. Maybe that's it. I did only recently get into Into the Radius.

>>395581051
>tfw had a black cat and this is pretty accurate in low light

>>395581051
old spawns were cuter

>>395582538
I struggled to grab stuff off my arms too until I went into the settings and made my arms shorter. Suddenly felt much better.

>>395580052
Huh. I do that with pretty much all VR games and haven't really thought about it.

>>395589667
In h3vr there's a button that enables/disables the stick controlling moving/turning. When it's disabled you can click in the stick to do certain things. This is poorly explained and anyone hoping to use the stick is shit out of luck. I usually rely on the sticks for most movement but honestly I don't mind it.

>>395590601
I see, I'm guessing that's what they've mapped the touchpad controls to. Yeah that sounds awful. The controls work fantastic on Index.

>>395590956
The controls work great on the old wmr controllers too, which is why when I was looking to upgrade I was tempted to get a G2 and keep use the old controllers with it.

>>395564327
I don't see VR MMOs taking off until we get to the point we can use natural language to talk to NPCs, and they'll respond in fashion with dialog that is generated based on our response with some fancy TTS voice, rather than canned message.

VR as a medium is still in its infancy stage.

>>395593809
Agreed.

>>395593809
Am I the only one that would cringe if I had to talk out loud to a game?

>>395594582
A reminder that EQ1, one of the most popular earlier MMOs, had you RP typing to every NPC.

>>395594582
In the Kinect era we had people shouting FUSRODAH at their tv's 3-4 times because it would barely register.

>>395594662
It was the talking out loud aspect rather than rp'ing that I was future cringing at.

>>395594939
I honestly feel it'll be the new standard for VR games interaction once it's feasible to do with extremely little room for interpretation error. No one likes game menus in VR, but we're probably stuck with them for accessibility reasons even if the former statement becomes true one day.

You people have the most retarded takes sometimes.

>>395595592
They're visionaries anon, misunderstood in our time but in the future people will look back and wonder why noone listened to that random anon on 4chan's /vrgg/ board.

>>395563803
MMOs are dead
If you want to play party content, play games that are designed around coop and with good core mechanics.

>>395594582
What's the cringe part? Being heard in real life or in the game?
Maybe you could try getting used to schizo talking to yourself without a headset on first.

N

>>395604548
I

>>395594582
I remember playing some random itch game where you had to scream to generate power to use special attacks and it was a lot of fun.

>>395608591
>finally dragon ball vr
>you have to scream like your life depends on it in order to transform
kino

fucking hell
i got vr so i wouldn't be a fat lazy pig sitting in a chair growing fatter playing flat games
and then i played vr games standing for an hour and had fucking enough and now i just sit down again and move just my arms.
when i sit during VR i have lots of fun playing the games. when i stand it feels like a huge chore playing
i just can't win. i will never get that hot bod vr bod girls coom over ;_;

>>395610769
Eat less.

>>395610769
just eat less, piggy
just close the fridge

>>395610831
i'm not american, i don't just shove donuts into my face. i have shit genetics so i get fat from just drinking water

>>395611036
> i have shit genetics so i get fat from just drinking water
this is just cope and you know it

bows and throwing knives are always me favorite weapons in flat games, i even use them over fire guns
but holy shit in vr it's so frustrating. aiming that shit is so hard, because it's literally as hard as doing it for real. they can't expect players to master IRL archery to have fun in the game with bows

>>395611694
skill issue, literally.

>>395611694
>they can't expect players to master IRL archery to have fun in the game with bows
Why not?

>>395611694
throwing knives i can understand because there still isn't a standard implementation of throwing in games and it can be janky but bows?

>>395611694
Get a real VR dumbass

>>395611036
>Fat "people" actually believe that their bodies can defy the laws of thermodynamics
Maybe you need a gym membership instead of a VR headset.

>>395611694
What game? Most games with either of those exaggerate physics to make things easier. Look at The Walking Dead S&S where the heads of zombies will conveniently have much larger hitboxes when using a bow, or Blade & Sorcery where a thrown weapon somehow has way more momentum than it should.

>>395611694
Knives in VR simply don't work without a lot of guidance, simply because we can't feel the weight balance of the object being thrown.

Reminds me of the wonky grenade throwing in Pavlov you have to get used to, where your throwing strength is probably 5x of that of what you'd expect from your RL motion.

>>395613551
Blacktop Hoops has a pretty nice throw auto-assist. It's very difficult to successfully make shots without it on the hardest difficulty but turn it down a level and the assist effect is subtle.

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>>395616059
they just need to add auto aim for that shit, where if you throw or shoot arrow within certain angle of the target it will just magically adjust the projectile path to hit correctly
the worst part is that learning to shoot bow without auto aim in VR is as hard as in real life and the skill doesn't even translate, so if you learn it in VR you still can't shoot bow irl anyway

maybe it's okay if VR games are harder to master

>>395572770
record in stereo next time

>>395611036
>i don't just shove donuts into my face
>but i can't even be bothered to stand for vr
citation fucking needed

>>395627482
You expecting people to go cross eyed or something?

>>395636256
why not

NA VTOL in just over an hour.

https://youtu.be/q-08KCheaGg

question, is VORPX actually VR conversion for flatscreen games (minus motion controllers) and not a 3D screen with a crappy VR effect. I'm getting confused what VORPX actually does

>>395641893
VORPX is old as fuck shit that was made to add a stereo effect to flat games for monitors with stereo glasses

>>395641712
you can already play the entire HL2 in gmod VR

>>395643154
It's buggy as fuck.

>>395641712
Hope it supports the co-op mod at some point.

>>395639721
NA VTOL
hotdog

Babe, new ITR patch just dropped

>>395651386
And the devs continue to make me sit and wait until this not-early-access game is out of early-access.

>>395604548
>>395607826
G

>>395639721
It's okay to crash into the water bros

Play Iron Wolf

>>395639721
>>395663067
Congrats on landing in that mission. Its not easy.

what's a good game for exercise that isn't beatsaber?

>>395672942
Master Bladesmith.

>>395672942
Thrill of the Fight is pretty tiring.

>>395674313
i've got that one.. it was kind of sick, but i saw the developer dropped it. was a bit buggy with oculus link too

does the text color on the quake 3 server list screen mean anything significant? i cant tell if the "people" im playing with are bots or not. also is it possible to create a game with custom weapon swaps/rules?

>>395675474
also the free version i got from sideloader says it only comes with 5 or so maps but ive played on much more than that, so whats the deal

NA folks what happened to your Valheim sessions?
Are you winning and did you win?

>>395682746
People lost interest. It's over.

>>395686891
RIP. Up to what boss did you finish?

>>395664320
this looks exactly like something i'd want
any good tank VR simulators?

>>395641712
5 years too late and it's a still gonna be janky vr mod for a game you've replayed multiple times.

>>395665793
>landing on giant flat plane
hard

Do you even hover bro?

it's up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfJnJmwqNCk

>>395616059
This, I can throw knives in real life pretty well but in VR it's fucking impossible because they don't behave realistically half the time.
>>395652143
Yeah that's one of the reasons why I still haven't bought itr too.

>Oculus Home has one of the best bow-tensioning haptic feedback feel on CV1/Quest controllers
>No other game comes close to replicating it
Wish more games took special note of this shit instead of using generic rumble.

>>395697509
There is a bow in quest home?

>>395696364
he's so cute

>>395697509
Most devs don't care or have the time/skill to care about the details like those. We'll get there eventually when devs are more experienced, but it's going to take a long time.

>>395699679
I blame Valve for not putting the same level of haptics into Index since it's the second most-owned headset that's not Oculus-based.

We already got Switch & PS5 with controllers of a similar level of haptic feedback, but hardly any games make use of it there either outside of the 1st-party support, and it'd be far more beneficial in the VR space.

>>395700004
>We already got Switch & PS5 with controllers of a similar level of haptic feedback
Wait, quest controllers have voice coil actuator based hd rumble too?

>>395700004
>I blame Valve for not putting the same level of haptics into Index
What? Index has LRAs just like all the others. Or are you talking about software? I thought the Longbow demo did pretty well, although I'm not sure how it compares to the Oculus Home one.

>>395700442
CV1/Quest 2 controllers do, but not Rift-S/Quest1.

>>395581051
so cute

>>395672942
Come to PyPy!

>>395663067
Why does that cockpit look so unfamiliar? Guess I haven't been gunning as much as I'd like.
One of these days I'm going to have to get on the NA VTOL... eventually...
>>395664320
Ironwolf is mega based. Wish there were more games similar to it.
>>395693272
>any good tank VR simulators?
I had the same question a few months ago and the answer is: they're all dead. The only good one left is the one in Pavlov. The rest were demos that died in production.

>>395693272
>any good tank VR simulators?
I picture a world where this came out a decade after the fact as a VR exclusive, rather than a broken mess.

>>395682746
fizzled out. I wanna finish it tho. maybe after the next update...

>>395695346
its NA they need more training

>>395705296
it this got a VR remake it would have been amazing.
hell, any vr game that lets you interact with the game world by messing around a cockpit would be awesome. something like vox or vtol.

>>395682746
The month passed and the flavor got stale.

>>395611036
>i have shit genetics so i get fat from just drinking water
Please shut the fuck up

>>395711785
>not having genetics so strong that they defy laws of physics
NGMI

>>395711243
A cockpit game with Echo VR's grab setup to let you maneuver around the cockpit by grabbing and pulling against surfaces.

>>395716447
Ziggy's Cosmic Adventures is similar to what you describe, shame it looks like a glorified rail shooter.

>>395717740
have you played the demo? From it it seemed more like energy/system management than rail shooter

>>395718212
no i haven't, i judged it based on the trailer

I'm curious if those wrist bracelets Facebook's poured millions of R&D into (and buying the company that made it) are sensitive enough to do full on arm tracking on their own rather than just wrist+fingers.

It would allow for the thing I've wanted for awhile where we can have arm+hand tracking in an FPS, plus a physical gun controller to hold as a third tracked object, without the clunkyness of trying to take two existing controllers and attaching it to a stock.

>>395719279
>are sensitive enough
That does that even mean?

>>395719804
pretty sure it reads the shit inside of your arm to know what movements you're making, retard-kun

>>395719279
my problem with shit like this and the quests's hand tracking is that without a controller there's no in-game movement without rl movement which limits it to roomscale garbage only

>>395720462
And that has to do with sensitivity if it tracks the muscles of the fingers, cretin?
That's exactly why I'm asking. The sentence doesn't make sense.

You either add position tracking to it or not.

>>395720786
if you can't even figure out what he meant with that, how the fuck do you manage to not shit your pants on the daily you absolute fucking retard

>>395720704
Armswinger is the future.

>>395721114
>can't move and use arms at the same time
no

>>395720880
If I don't understand something, I don't just assume that the opposite party is a drooling retard and instead leave the possibility that maybe I'm just missing something, because I'm not an uncultured braindead midwit like you.
Die.

>roomscale lets you interact naturally with your environment but forces you to use controllers for anything bigger than your room
>treadmills let you move naturally with your legs but forces you to an awkward range of motion and precision
bros...

>>395721659
The answer surely is VR wheelchairs. Match the awkwardness of RL and VR together.

>>395711785
you shut the fuck up i will never play pavlov with you ever again fag

Bro fuck off. I'm fat too and it's hard enough without retards like you trying to cope and making fat people look dumb.
>dude i don't even eat that much
You think that, also move your fuckint ass you slob, i'm fat but i'm not a lazy piece of shit like you

>>395722590
Wear wrist weights. I have a few pairs. I grew out of one of them. 2.5 pounds, and 10 pounds, and 20 pounds.

>>395718741
quick summary of demo then:
>green things you see in screenshot can be 3d printed
>put them in machine to fill up batteries
>batteries used for the different systems
>after sacrificing them youneed to do some clean up or air becomes to toxic
>systems quickly run out of juice so lots of battery handling
>if you get shot some systems might break which you have to repair

>>395723763
gj on killing your joints
>b-but my joints are fine
you'll see in few years after your get your early onset arthritis diagnosis

>>395719279
just build the lucidvr glove

Cunnytractors today?

>>395738651
see >>395735324 (Cross-thread)

i dont know how to play mahjong bros...

>>395739767
same, and ill never learn (free tibet)

Contractors lobby going up in a couple minutes, EU region, Videgames, pass 8921

>>395739767
Nobody does, everyone just pretends to know how to play.

on one hand im bored with playing pancake and on the other i barely have time for vr

>>395748641
GG Sweatractors

Contractors map makers sure do love terrible lighting.

>>395627482
What's this from?

>>395693272

battlezone gold/2016
wait for a steam sale though (80% off)

>>395739767
>>395748967

i do and have many times in VR. Problem is, that's VRChat general, not here. Also VRChat is also dead

>>395771101
I think it's from one of those vrchat events where nips scam virgins into paying hundreds of dollars for edited 3d models.

>>395686891
>>395711635
>>395706759
Here I'll give you some motivation.
Woooowww I can't believe you guys haven't finished it.
Americans? More like AmeriCAN'Ts

Your ancestors built civilizations out of rebar and concrete away from the British on a new land yet you cannot even dominate the new land of Valheim. Talk about weaksauce. lololololol
Here's some videos of our tribe celebrating a full new world conquering
https://streamable.com/e8s9d9
https://streamable.com/povskq

Ok hope that helped.

>>395774531
Host's VRfu lost interest early on and dragged him off to other things

>>395774831
Maybe next update...

>>395682746
>Valheim in VR
Does everyone have to play on the lowest settings for this shit? Because even in a mid-tier built camp my PC struggles to maintain 60fps in desktop mode on a mix of medium/high. Nevermind the 90+ you want for VR.

>>395775426
Medium settings worked for me.
Draw distance is the most important one

>>395775426
I get ~40fps with a 3080. Lowering settings does surprisingly little. It's just not that well optimized.

>>395594582
There's a skyrim VR mod that lets you bind shouts to voice commands
Not that I've ever used it because I live with people but the idea is neat

>>395616059
I'm a fucking hazard with grenades and half the time I end up hitting a wall and flashing myself

>>395780682
the best feeling is rushing a corner into a bunch of footsteps with a sawed-off and a grenade with the pin pulled.

What's the best option for a co-op shooter for 3 people on Quest 2 / zombie co-op shooter?

It looks like After the Fall is good, but not a ton of content for the price. I've also heard Contractors has added a zombie mode. Are there any other good co-op (preferably vs AI) shooters?

I hate vr
IHATEVR
I HATE VR
I HATE IT
I HATE
VR
AND I WANT TO DESTROY IT

is there ANY VR games to look forward to? I've got nothing!

Alright...I'm starting to get H3VR now.

>ITR
>take a mission in an early area, decide to take a shitty gun that i've got piles of ammo for
>get close to the objective
>hear 2 sliders blinking around
>360 and walk out the door
nope

I could use a game that is basically The Warriors (the R* game) but in VR. Mugging people, looting stores, beating up hobos, commanding a small gang about.

Basically Payday 2 with more open environments and no guns.

>>395791970
loking forward to that new hl2 vr mod. and the deep rock galactic mod being better eventually.

>>395791970
Firmament for me.

>>395791970
I'm still holding hope for a PC release of the Puzzle Bobble game, but that's growing dim after it's been a year after the initial Quest release and subsequent PS4/PS5 version. VR really lacks some casual puzzle-type games to go back to once in awhile.

LIVE`

>>395798368
I really hope they show san andreas gameplay whenever the next facebook event is.

>>395817781
Maybe this is asking too much but I want gang wars to play like an arcade shooter

>>395817781
I'd rather they have that studio fucking finish LA Noire VR because that shit was great despite only having 1/4 of the cases of the flat game.

>>395791970
On PC Bonelab and S&box, mainly so modders can make stuff for them.

I'm honestly more interested in PSVR2 when it comes to actual games. RE4make having VR sounds great. I passed up on RE4VR because of the censorship, which seems to be the right choice as my 4th playthrough of the game will be genuinely novel the time around. The Horizon VR game could be good too, but I'll have to see how much content it has.

>>395780236
Skyvoice VR, I use it all the time. It's way more handy to use than having to open a menu to switch shouts. There is a delay of about a second, but it works fine otherwise. One thing I like is how you have to actually get good at pronouncing the dragon language. In The Way Of The Voice I kept getting shittalked as I couldn't figure out how to pronounce whirlwind sprint correctly, until I looked it up and realized that 'wuld' needs to be pronounced like 'would'. Voice recognition for shouts is nothing new of course given that the 360 version had it via the Kinect.

There's also Dragonborn Speaks Naturally which does the same thing for normal dialog, but I don't really use it as it doesn't add much. It does have an option for activating other actions up to and including console commands if you really want to access those without a VRIK gesture or using your keyboard.

Have a 30% discount code for oculus. If I only buy 1 game from these what should I get?

>>395829168
RE4 if you dont mind replaying the game, if you have even played it to begin with over the years.

>>395829168
Don't give money to zucc.

>>395829168
>RE4
Even if a full remake is coming to PSVR (and potentially after to pc)?

>>395830781
The impression I got is REmake 4's VR support will be some sub-mode, otherwise Capcom would have outright said "full VR support" for it.

>>395831551
Oh interesting. Was under the impression it would be full VR.
Then RE it probably is.

>>395831780
This was the specific wording for it, which just screams not-the-full-game. Maybe something they'll add after the fact though, like they're doing with RE8 (ffs port the VR modes from this and 7 to PC also).

>>395792027
Take and Hold?

>>395834282
idk if 7 vr is ever gonna get a pc port since it never had motion controls.

>>395834282
>>395835416
There is a mod that is better than psvr version.
It has hand tracking.

>>395835416
>7 vr
its dead
capcom said they gonna release re 7 vr on pc after a year and they 'forgot' about it

what the fuck
i got code for beatsaber for free
based zuck i guess lmao
and i know they are giving it for free now, but i bought my quest 2 in january kek

Has anyone here tried playing Subnautica in VR? How was it?

>>395850594
i hate crafting/5

>>395847436
How did you get it? I only bought my quest 2 a few months ago.
>>395850594
I tried it for about 5 minutes, it's kinda cool but is very tacked on so it's doesn't really work that well.

>>395853429
I see, think I'll stick with playing it on my pc then. Thanks.

>>395853429
i just got mail from them with 'here is your present for buying META quest 2' and link to 'buy' it for free
lmao

>>395853759
Lucky fucker.

>>395854229
it doesnt matter much, i pirated this shit on quest and on pc
still cool to get for free for 'no reason'

N

anyone has good program for downscaling 8k to 4k?
my cpu and quest 2 cant handle 8k

>>395863124
wrong general pal

>>395863602
No-one saw it, it's okay

>>395791970
H3VR and B&S to be a proper game.

>>395864236
i saw it

>>395791970
New DLC for VTOL VR with hopefully a cool two seater plane or some shit like that.

>>395791970
Tarkov modded game mode for H3VR.

>>395862739
You mean video files? Just use ffmpeg.

>>395835092
Haven't played that yet. Still figuring out controls and movement

>>395867849
>command line tool
yeah fuck that shit

>>395868524
Brainlet filtered.

>>395791970
amogus vr

>>395850594
It's the most obvious fucking example of dev hitting the "Allow VR mode" button in Unity and then doing fucking nothing about actual VR support/optimization. Menus are all a literal two inches from your face, no comfort options, no snap turn, XInput-controller support only.

>>395871437
That's truly unfortunate. With a proper VR mode it'd have so much potential of being one of the best VR horror games.
The base game is interactive enough to feel like playing it in VR should be worth it.

>>395871714
I believe there was a community mod that unfucked a lot of the no-support VR mode, but can't recall if that ever got fixed up when the game was receiving updates leading up to that stand-alone expansion.

>>395871869
Can confirm that mod still works fine
https://www.nexusmods.com/subnautica/mods/173
I'll add that it's not a total rework or anything, just bugfixes and QoL. The port itself is still shit, but it's worth a try if you have the game already. One notable feature is that you can turn your head in the seamoth and cyclops, that's it lmao, your tools are always in front of your camera so you feel like a submarine robot with arms

>get the urge to play star wars squadrons again
>remember that my old ass logitech G940 is a fucking bitch to set up to work properly
>don't want to use a regular controller
>repeat again 3 months later
Did /vrgg/ play squadrons when it came out? It wasn't amazing but it was fun, especially in vr.

>>395879720
I played it a bit but once the coolest factor of flying x-wings in vr wore off the missions got boring incredible fast.

>>395879720
>>395880007
Plus the controls never really felt right to me, I have a good hotas but it felt like I was fighting the game rather than playing it.

>>395835736
I wonder how the official port of re8 turns out. Dual wielding + proper menus and inventory + manual reloads + better visuals and performance(hopefully). re4 exemplified the need for an official port.

>>395886112
quest port of re4 was outsourced.
it would be very funny if we just get camera controls again
"that's it, here's your VR content"

do i have below average reaction time?
it took me 3 hours to beat this song in beatsaber on expert:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXh4F006w0o
My hands are fast enough, but my eyes and my brain aren't fast enough. My eyes feel completely overwhelmed by the speed of the boxes.

>>395890672 (me)
this video is obviously not me

>>395890672
Just play more.

>>395890991
the thing is,
after 3 hours my reaction time didn't improve, but I had memorized the whole song
This means that if I want to beat Expert+ songs, I always have to memorize the song first

>>395891402
No it doesn't. Your brain reconfigures itself if you play more. 3 hours is nothing and one long session is much worse than playing shorter sessions regularly. If you play most days for 20 minutes that song will be easy within a few weeks.

>>395891637
Oh, does this mean it's normal that i can't beat expert+ songs yet?

>>395892081
Yes. I couldn't even do expert when I started.

>>395892580
oops, looks like i got a warped reality on this one
thank you for clarifying this for me

>>395891637
once you play enough to start seeing the tetris effect of blocks flying at you when you close your eyes, or in your dreams, that's your brain essentially training itself to recognize the patterns by playing them back. So sleep on it and come back and you'll notice your reaction time continue to improve day by day.

>>395886460
its still a great port

>>395893226
that's the point. the port was great because it wasn't done by capcom

>>395893371
Ahhh. RE7 was very early on in the vr market tho. I think Capcom can make a proper port.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6kgFBKAfIk

This looks pretty promising. There's dual wielding at around 1:00. What's weird about the whole thing is that there's full body in the cutscenes and floating hands in the actual gameplay.

>>395880378
Squadrons was in an awkward middle ground on the controls. It wasn't autistic enough for the hardcore simulation audience who likes the mere experience of flying in something to be as hardcore as possible with 6 billion buttons, but it was just a little too hardcore for the casual audience and to be something you slip on for some fun now and again without much thought, like say Project Wingman. I put down Squadrons for 6 months, felt like trying it again but said fuck it when trying to remember and remap all my buttons.

I have discovered armswinger

>>395906352
The thinking man's locomotion method.

I had a really nice day.
Can't wait to play some VR.

>>395914686
we're all gonna make it lads

>>395914771
except f*rries, they are ngmi

>>395914171
Holy shit, did you not learn from being embarrassed in the Blue Archive thread a while back? You're such a retard.

>>395865630
>two seater plane
Pretty sure the multicrew mod is working on making the F/A-26B have multicrew. I'm definitely all up for official stuff, though. Just kinda wish modders and the devs wouldn't step over each others toes so much, but I don't know if the devs actually use community contributions or not.

>>395559617 (OP)
Why are the hands always white in these games? Is there an option to make them dark brown?

Do NOT post those webms. You know what i'm talking about.

>>395893371
RE4 on Quest is better than it had any right being given Armature's prior Quest entries were phone-tier games that kept it simple. Wish that dev would be given a budget to make something original though. Last big game they worked on was Batman: Blackgate on 3ds/Vita which I quite liked, and that game is 9 years old already.
I just came to realize my Vita is already a decade old. Fuck that gen passed quick, and fuck Sony for their mishandling of the best handheld hardware.

The only complain one would have at that release was a lack of Mercernaries mode for replayability, but that was patched in after the fact at no cost.

Is there any VR roguelite with actual item synergy and decent randomization? Most VR "rougelites" I've seen and played barely have the right to be called one since the randomization is barely significant to gameplay and there's too much focus around doing consecutive runs (and meta progression) just to "get stronger" (via some grind that boost player stats) rather than unlock more variables/tools.

>>395927752
Does it have the Ada Wong campaign yet?

>>395943998
Unfortunately not yet, if it's even happening. I can't recall if any release of RE4 with that content even had it all running in-engine. The versions I all played with that content (Wii/PS3/PS4) maintained the FMVs the PS2 version had. It'd require Armature to either recreate the cutscenes themselves, or pray Capcom had the scenes all archived for them in a usable format to port into UE4.

for me it's the neosvr metaverse

>>395954409
>have terrible VR interface
>dev introduces a desktop mode
>it's the same fucking clunky interface but somehow even worse to manage

It looked like something that would have been ideal to setup avatars/maps with in desktop mode if it functioned well, and then be social in VR, but it fails on both counts unless you want to spend forever doing any simple task. Will it get there one day? Probably, if the core contributors don't lose access. Still has a long ways to go, especially on the performance end.

>>395958935
lucky that some friend jumped in to help me install my avatar lol

Motherfucking Pavlov VR is causing my PC to restart on launch. Doesn't happen with any other game. Temperatures, CPU, and memories are fine after stress tests. Developers are ignoring me on d*scord. Steam won't refund because 54 hours on record. Absolute fuckshit.

>>395922678
what webms do you mean, anon?

>>395965095
holy...

I'm in the last level of budget cuts VR.
Is there a way to save my progress? I don't want to do everything from scratch every time I die.

>>395965780
Maybe you're doing the level wrong, you're not trying to travel through the corridors, right?

>>395971263
Of course I'm doing something wrong. I will need multiple attempts to figure out what exactly I'm doing wrong.
But I want to figure this out myself. I was asking about saving progress because it would make this process a bit less tiresome.

>vrchat has EAC now
what does this mean for all those moddable clients, are those banned? I tried booting up recently and it wouldn't let me with that one melon loader thing

>>395938442
No Man's Sky kimd of fills that find better randomized loot niche. Tbh I've found that most games that were not rigidity designed for VR like Bethesda games, Hitman, Etc. all offer the best experience, probably because they were designed to be actual games instead of revolving around a gimmick

>>395962676
Try clearing the Steam download cache.

>>395962676
Asus/Asrock motherboard?
Could be EAC.

>>395972052
basically, yeah
i'm certain there's still ways around it but all existing mods got effectively nuked

devs are taking the time to add some QoL features previously only available as mods that ended up as collateral damage, so that's nice at least

>>395980885
kinda lame, I barely caught on to the whole new client experience. short experience for me though I only went on for desktop mode for friday night talent shows so

So when the fuck do you guys think the PSVR 2 will release?

october/november

>>395986124
yeah right, they didnt even show it yet

>>395986275
They have, but I don't see it launching this year

Next summer i'll pick up an AC unit, fuck it.

>>395999185
>live with parents and they complain about using a normal fan because of their delusional understanding of electricity costs
I am doomed.

Vrg bust talking about cooming so I repost this here.

>>396001968
I live with my grandparents but fuck them, i'll do what i want. I'm paying almost everything in this house, i can do whatever the fuck i want.
I still love them tho

>>396001968
>live with parents
>they refuse to buy AC
>mfw I live in the attic

I wish I could interacted more with some people last night

>touch usb cable
>quest 2 disconnect from my pc
fug :DD
any recommendation? Usb-A to C

>>395980323
Pavlov finally implemented an anti-cheat? Not touched it in awhile. Used to be so many fucking scriptkiddies abusing infinite-ammo cheats.

>>395990842
by showing i meant real thing, not render

>>396005132
With how limited those VR Space events are and how those games are basically 15-minute demos commissioned by the companies that run those spaces, I don't know how they can make it profitable. Ubisoft's done a few games for them and that one other company at this point though.

>>396006374
Wireless with Virtual Desktop, otherwise just look up the cables on amazon with good reviews

>>396008514
>with Virtual Desktop
Good evening, sir. How's weather in india today?

>>396008514
>otherwise just look up the cables on amazon with good reviews
Ah yes, those very reliable Amazon reviews that totally aren't game'd.

After experimenting with Quest 2 for 8 months, I've determined that there's just only so much can you get out of that usb3 cable.
>3080, oculus slider to max, steam slider to 1.0
>some games manage to hit locked 120hz like most pavlov maps, other games simply can't handle it despite performance metrics telling me otherwise
>lower oculus slider to 1.0, keep steam at 1.0. SURELY this would provide plenty of headroom instead of pegging the card at 80%+ and 8-9gb vram
>looks how you would expect, runs worse. Games have more frame compensation shit going on, through oculus runtimes or steamvr.
I can't deal with this shit anymore. Buying a link cable was the whole fucking reason to get away with constantly fiddling with VD, Airlink, and even ALVR. I have done everything correctly and I cannot trust any setup because the results differ widly. Valve need to hurry the fuck up and release a native headset with proper DP connectivity and not cop out like meta and try to pump too much bandwidth through a usbc cable.

I just got home. Any VR news? New headset? New leak? New VR game? New GPU that's good for VR? New VR software update that makes VR not a laggy mess? New cheap third party tracking option? New anything?

>>395962676
I've done that and every step in their FAQ.
>>395980323
MSI mobo.

>>396010720
I was under the impression the slider being set to max meant less compression due to higher bitrate, thus faster to decompress on the headset.

>>396005132
The Far Cry VR thing was already a thing, nothing new, I assume the other ones were as well but I can't be bothered to search.

>>396010720
>I have done everything correctly and I cannot trust any setup because the results differ widly.
Only if the users are retarded. Properly set up systems have similar performance.
Learn how to use Oculus Debug tool.

>>396012875
>Learn how to use Oculus Debug tool.
Way ahead of you before you jump to the
>you just don't know how to set up your pc properly!

>>396013103
"Wildly different results" have no other explanation besides "incompetent users".
Prove me wrong.

No Pavlov today due to weather that is boiling me alive.
Next sunday we do Pistol and Bolt action again!

>>396012323
There's too many variables. You would think dropping the oculus slider down to it's base and not supersampling as much would just give you net performance improvements in any scenario. Not the case. There's too many variables.
>Is it the oculus runtime?
>is it the steam runtime?
>is the game just plainly unopimised?
>is the engine running openvr/xr and it inherently runs worse under either runtime?
>is steamvr acting up again because it's general very buggy on windows regardless?
>is your OS optimised and not constantly turning on settings that kill vr performance behind your back?
>did your Nvidia drivers get reset?
When troubleshooting you have to poke at all of these possibilities. It's like a house of cards.
>>396013396
>YOU MUST NOT KNOW HOW TO SET UP A PC OR TROUBLESHOOT, WERE YOU USING THIS <program>?
>Yes.
>WELL THEN YOU MUST NOT KNOW HOW TO USE COMPUTERS OR TROUBLESHOOT
Whatever. Not going to sit here and listen you claim that there experience is highly reproducible with these USB headsets when it depends entirely on the chipset of your motherboard being up for that. If you had used any prior Oculus headsets you would know how much of a nightmare that issue has been and why it's contributed to them making standalone SOC headsets.

>>396013928
I want to pump SPAS-12 in manual mode!!

>>396014673
Have you tried not being retarded?
Just test remove as many variables as you can and measure the performance in best case scenario.

>is the engine running openvr/xr and it inherently runs worse under either runtime?
>Is it the oculus runtime?
>is it the steam runtime?
>is steamvr acting up again because it's general very buggy on windows regardless?
Those 4 are the same issue.

>USB headsets when it depends entirely on the chipset of your motherboard
Just don't use the chipset usb ports, just don't used 2.4gz wifi. With just 2 steps you have eliminated 99% of usb problems.

You are like children who have never debugged anything complicated in their lives. You have 0 problem solving skills. "It's black magic, I give up."

>>396015620
>Just test remove as many variables as you can and measure the performance in best case scenario.
That's literally what troubleshooting is. That's exactly what I explained in the OP. Good to see that you still lack reading comprehension
>Those 4 are the same issue.
And they can all be independent issues influencing your decision making depending on what software you're running. There is no point to this. It's just a general comment on the state of PCVR after all these years and how it's no different to troubleshooting a flat game that isn't working correctly.
>Just don't use the chipset usb ports.
Plugging the link cable into a different usb port? FUCK! WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT? WHY DID THAT NEVER OCCUR TO ME? I THOUGHT IT WOULD ONLY WORK ON THE FIRST USB PORT I PLUGGED IT INTO! SHIT!
> just don't used 2.4gz wifi. With just 2 steps you have eliminated 99% of usb problems.
Good idea! let me check th- Oh. It seems that I have been running an isolated 5ghz network just for VR already. With no other devices or rf polution. Shoot.
Do you have anything actually noteworthy to say other than indulging yourself in being a condescending prick?

post webms

>>396017459
You realize that you are making quite a big assumption with no evidence by saying "I have a usb problem"?
You are not acting rationally. You talk about it, but I don't see you doing any real troubleshooting and all I see is useless crying in a manner of "thingy not worky, me sad".

Let me spoonfeed you the steps.
1. Close everything on your PC, besides steamvr, oculus service, oculus debug menu.
2. Set the resolution to the minium and refresh rate to 120hz
3. Get a well written game which uses OpenXR (Ancient Dungeon fits well here)
4. In Oculus Debug Tool, set Visible HUD to Performance.
5. Start the link and open the game.
6. Move around in the main menu, move your hands and check your latency numbers.
7. Switch Performance HUD from Performance Summary to Oculus Link Detail, check stability of the transfer graphs and write the numbers down.
8. Close the game and start increasing the resolution, test and write the numbers down.
9. Go to step one, but now use air link through the dedicated wifi6 asus router
10. Compare the numbers of air vs cable

Stop making assumptions based on nothing and trying to "fix" the issues you don't even know exist for sure. That is just stupid and if you do so, you deserve to be talked to in the condescending manner.
That's all.

>>396018761
Here you go sir.

>>396020671
>Let me spoonfeed you the steps.
Holy shit you still don't get it do you? You're only course of action is to keep insisting that it's user error and claiming that I've never used OTT, any of the debug overlays, or that I lack the mental capacity to generic troubleshoot any of this an effective manner. After literally saying in my OP post in the first sentence that I've been experimenting with everything for 7 months. Please take a hike.

>>396021581
Yeah, you've jerked off for 7 months straight instead of doing real troubleshooting, I've figured it out already.
It was obvious right after this retarded nonsensical post >>396010720

>>396020671
>calls me a retard out of the gate
>treats me with normie kid gloves and says that I'm not running OTT or have my pc setup correctly
>tell him that I've been doing both, in addition to all of the Wifi recommendations because I actually have the technical expertise to troubleshoot pc problems and not bash two rocks together
>takes the high road and generlises my entire OP post down to "usb issues" and still treats me with kid gloves.
>NAH YOU'RE STILL RETARDED HERE'S HOW TO DO A BASIC BENCHMARK WHICH YOU SURELY HAVEN'T DONE BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO STUPID TO DO ANYTHING
>>396022147
>Yeah, you've jerked off for 7 months straight instead of doing real troubleshooting, I've figured it out already.
So know you're shifting goalposts? Excellent stuff, totally didn't expect that coming from you. More black and white logical fallacies and condescension.
>it either works or it doesn't.
>any setup is entirely repoducable on ANY pc with ANY motherboard with ANY graphics card running ANY OS.
Normally if someone green came into the thread talking about VR performance issues the first thing you would look at is the way they've setup their pc, I get that. But you jumped at the chance to label me that and called me a retard out of the fucking gate. When you were told that I wasn't green, and that I've been through the entire process many times over the past 7/8 months, you doubled down on your fantasy and the chance to induldge on ripping someone apart based on a sense of smug self superiority. I've been doing this since my DK1, Please take a fucking hike.

>>396023240
>any setup is entirely repoducable on ANY pc with ANY motherboard with ANY graphics card running ANY OS.
Weak attempt at strawman.
My point was that results from correctly working systems should be nearly identical.
>More black and white logical fallacies and condescension.
>logical fallacies
The irony.
But anyway, I openly question your competence. So far didn't show any evidence for me to suspect that you actually know what you are doing, quite the opposite.
>When you were told that I wasn't green, and that I've been through the entire process many times over the past 7/8 months
How you didn't narrow down the issue still? Where are the graphs with collected evidence? All I see are assumptions based on either nothing or your misunderstanding of how things suppose to work.

You can run around in circlers and jerk off your whole life, it wouldn't add you any credibility.

>>396024624
>now turning into a "debate me" bro
Nope. Not gonna do it. And here's where you tell yourself that you claim a "victory" over a internet argument on a taiwanese basket weaving forum ignoring the fact that you literally jumped at me calling me a retard and questioning my entire competence out of the gate, repeatedly explaining to me how how to do even the most basic troubleshooting after being told that the whole process was not foreign to me. You got caught out on your abrasive script and decided to go along with it anyway. Now you're the one that wants to act like a debate bro and demand proof that I somehow don't know what I'm looking at when I benchmark any game and troubleshoot?

I can only hope other people look at this comment chain and laugh at you at how this entire thing could have been avoided if you just didn't leap at me with an entirely abrasive accusation on my competence, continuing to do so when you were repeatedly told the contrary.

>>396025893
>>396024624
shut the fuck up you two have done this shit before in this thread

>>396025893
I will be honest with you, I'm not really interested in antagonizing you.
But you have to admit that your posts were kinda useless. Old man yells at clouds style.
You can write down your observations supported by data and share it with others, so people who know more can point out the mistakes, and people who know less learn from it.
That way we can collectively grow and eventually reach the truth. "Thingy bad, thingy not worky" is just useless.

I can apologize for saying "stop being retarded", but that post kinda deserved it.

>to retards have meltdown at the same time
wowzeee
at least thread wont die heh

>>396026928
>But you have to admit that your posts were kinda useless. Old man yells at clouds style.
If you want to generalize it down to that, whatever. Can't really throw stones when you call me a retard and accuse me of not knowing the basic VR things like using a program I've been using for years or even knowing how to isolate these devices to a 5ghz network. The entire argument behind the USBC thing is that there are fundamental limits to pushing all the headset data down a cable that wasn't designed for video transmission foremost. Yes, I realise that video encoding on the Quest-side and GPU side helps with this. Anybody who has pushed the quest 2 with high end cards will tell you, you can get most of the way to maxed out 120hz with a 3090, but you're going to run into issues depending on the game. In the case of the link, you are going to hit hitches and bottlenecks in performance and tracking at 120hz if you start super sampling so you can actually fucking see things in the distance. The bandwidth overhead for video encoding if you're maxing out the oculus slider puts even more of a strain on system resources more than running a native headset over a proper standard like display port. Hardware encoding is worse on AMD cards, and it's an undeniable fact that Airlink just straight up does not work for a lot of people regardless of how well their setup is. It's almost like pc setups and vr methods are highly variable and reproducing results isn't entirely simple?

There's undeniable overhead there. These things weren't meant to pushed this hard over usbc and there are fundamental limits to the video encoding on the headset. It seems more performant to keep both Oculus and SteamVR sliders at base and let the game do SS itself or FSR/DLSS. You get nearly identical visual results with objectively better frametimes and lower VRAM usage. Problem is, not every game has a built in internal rendering slider, and most don't go as high as you need them to.

I have learned who to GPS cruise missile

>>396034259
Again, depending on the game you're going to have to troubleshoot around a bit and make sacrifice just like with flat pc games. Some things will just run like shit regardless. But I think that anyone will agree with me is that it makes things simpler for PCVR if you are only relying on a native headset that separates data and display into respective connections and you only have to rely on one VR runtime. I hope Deckard does it this way if it does turn out to be a hybrid headset.

>>396034259
You wrote a lot of words but said nothing.
Everything computer does is quantifiable.
CPU can perform certain amount of work in x time.
GPU can perform certain amount of work in x time.
You do things faster by performing less work, that's it.

>It's almost like pc setups and vr methods are highly variable and reproducing results isn't entirely simple?
All you have to do is share your personal experience. So we can compare the numbers and figure out how to optimize our own personal systems properly.
Do you even know what is the lowest latency number that is possible through link/airlink? I don't.
The lowest I could get is 42ms with airlink, is that good or not, impossible to tell, because every ape is just saying "works well/works poorly". What can be considered "well"? How can they even judge without numbers? I have no idea and that honestly pisses me off.

What I'm trying to say that it's impossible to judge without hard data. All that arguing without it is simply masturbation.

>>396014673
>>Is it the oculus runtime?
>>is it the steam runtime?
Which makes me hate how slow the OpenXR adoption rate is, despite both Unity and UE4 supporting it. Would be one less thing to troubleshoot.

>>396009298
>>396009431
The fuck is your problem ? One retard can't look up shit himself, and the other retard is mad about the superior way to use his Quest 2 on PC. Rope yourselves my niggers

>>396043692
DO NOT REEDEEM THE AIRLINK, MY BASTARD

>>396044187
Airlink is fucking garbage and don't work right for most people without a clear reason. Virtual Desktop actually provides better image quality in most games over the fucking cable, too.
But anyway you faggots can do whatever you want, it's not my problem

Had enough

The AV-42C is a capable APC

Has anyone tried out Tracery of Fate? Would you rec it?

Anything good with flashlights in it? Walking Dead S&S2 won't be out for some time and it's one of the few things I find VR does real well relative to flat games.

>>396063978
this is an incredibly autistic ask
not really about comparing flashlight tech, but if you want a good game attached to it.. into the radius

>>396065076
>this is an incredibly autistic ask
Not sure how it's an autistic ask to want to play other games with a similar gameplay feature.

I'll give Into the Radius a look, thanks. Only other VR title I'm aware of with them is Phasmo, but that game has a bad flashlight feel, plus other problems of its own.

>>396065076
Now that you mention it, I wonder how Quest 2 handles the number of real time lights that can be active in ItR? Does it just chug if you activate too many or do they automatically deactive older sources?

>>396065580
Going by their dev teaser of it, the only real time light is simply your own, lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaS1W3IdEVw

Game looks so fucking bad despite having to downgrade the scale of the PC version to make the game more viable to port to Quest.

>>396065290
oh, sorry. i read it as 'with good flashlights', lol. like we'd be comparing the flashlight tech. between games
>>396065580
im curious how it'd even handle the hideout. it really sounds too good to be true

>>395920704
The dev said something about adding new mechanics to justify any new multicrew aircraft which makes a lot of sense to me. The Heli is harder to fly so splitting tasks with a second person feels like a fair trade but there might not be enough for both players to do to justify a 2 seater F/A-26B outside of training situations.
I'd like to see a multicrew aircraft with ECM/EWAR capability be added, something that can carry missiles too like the EA-18G. Actively managing the ECM would be a decent task for the second seat and I think it would serve a complimentary role alongside what we already have. The F-45A or other future additions could also have access to an ECM pod so the mechanic gets some extra milage.

>>396066361
Mobile VR will always be vastly inferior to PC because of the size of everything involved, but damn it's rough seeing how downgraded ports get even vs the PCVR version's low settings.

With a few exceptions, Q2 games feel like they're sitting somewhere between PS1 and PS2 tier graphics. I wonder how much longer we'll have to go till we start seeing games that consistently look like PS3 to early PS4 levels

>>396066361
The problem is that you can activate as many lights as you want.
>>396067031
Even the best PC hardware can't handle a large stash. Quest dropping frames with 10 items in that room isn't going to be acceptable. They'll probably end up with some kind of extreme simplifications of how objects are handled.

>>396069124
It's a game industry problem in general. Those with the techincal/artistical know-how to milk mobile hardware are generally not given the time/budgets to make it so, unless they got a publisher they can convince that them would make them more sales (eg. All the reviewers who raved about how Red Matter 1 & 2 look on Quest).

Quest 2 is definitely capable of 360-tier textures and polygon counts (not so much realtime environment lighting which that console gen also struggled heavily with @ 30fps), but it won't be worth the effort with how small the playerbase is on it relative to other platforms.

>>396066361
>PC Version gets downgraded
>Still needs more downgrading
Why not just release, I don't know, two versions of the same game? They did it with mobile releases of flat games.

>>396070275
>Quest 2 is definitely capable of 360-tier textures and polygon counts (not so much realtime environment lighting
This is the big problem. The Quest 2 sucks absolute ass when it comes to anything beyond the most basic and flat lighting. You can have everything else the exact same, but changing the lighting and shadows alone can be a ridiculous change to how good or bad something appears. Look at how different some ripped game models can appear because they don't have the lighting of their source or compare a good implementation of Ray Tracing(Such as Dying Light 2 or Metro Exodus: Enhanced Edition) to non ray tracing.
>>396070935
Most of these people are actually small indie developers and trying to code for two vastly different versions can be time and resource consuming. It's no wonder why a lot of games end up with the Quest 2 as the base version and then build off that.

>>395791970
Bonelab and Saints and Sinners 2
Both had awesome games, so their Sequel cant possibly fuck up, right?

>>396071141
I'm expecting a Quest 3 to not be that much of a performance spec boost, but it'll have enough shared memory in it that games can opt for shadow maps or baked lighting at not-garbage resolutions, although it'll start taking a hit to storage size in its place.

Devs at this point could probably rely on oldschool tricks, like vertex lighting. Could add more colour to the scene with it also.

>>396072486
Given both sequels are made in Quest limitations in mind, I'm expecting them both to have scaled-back implementations, which in turn affects the PC release.

Just like the I Expect You To Die sequel which looked like shit on PC compared to the original. Flat lighting, lower poly count in the scene, less objects to interact with.
I don't blame the devs for it due to where the money is at present, but it does suck for fans of the original.

>>396073014
>Quest limitations in mind
Is this confirmed? I know Bonelab is but I can't see them gimping the PC version, they'd lose their existing audience. The games are going to be released around next-gen hardware, so I don't see why they can't take advantage of that.

>>396073014
Games getting quest'd always breaks my heart. One of the main appeals of vr in the first place was being able to see a massive amount of detail and being able to just lean in or pick up and inspect things. Quest downgrades just remove all of that detail for the sake of money. I'll never forgive the Onward dev for what he did to that game.

>>396072763
I'm hoping that once integrated eye tracking becomes standard for dynamic foveated rendering, it'll lead to a nice performance bump that'll allow mobile processors to punch a bit above their weight class, even if the raw power of the chip isn't that big of a jump. Even just right now, consider a generational jump of around 30-50% performance from an upgraded chip and then another 30%+ from foveated rendering and that's a lot of extra power to play with.

>>396074312
fuck off tranny

Does OBS have either a shadowplay esque feature or at least some way to stop/start recordings without dicking around in my Q2's airlink dash which currently won't bother interacting with the monitor? Not unwilling to try shadowplay again but I had some issue with it whether it was not focusing correctly or potato audio quality (I'm recording 1080p/60fps and also stream at that though I just use xsplit for streaming, or directly in discord if only a couple people are going to show up)

Also I can get custom songs into beat saber (only via ingame and like 50 search menus (god these need to be consolidated; probably a mod for it)) but how I find new avatars and stage replacements? And no I don't want to have an anime avatar

>>396073807
>they'd lose their existing audience
The devs of S&S already mentioned week-1 sales of their Quest port destroyed the current total PC sales up to that point.

>>396080120
We see this happen time and time again. The dev for Ultrawings 2 even expressed similar sentiment of how insanely lopsided the Q2 sales were vs PCVR.

Even if I hate it because of how downgraded it has resulted in games becoming or even the PCVR side abandoned entirely for the Quest version, I can't say I don't understand why devs do it. The Q2 audience is just massive in comparison.

>>396063978
Doom 3 Fully Possessed. The Quest Doom 3 mod lacks the stencil shadows sadly.

>>396078216
I use this
https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/how-to-setup-instant-replay-in-obs-studio.613/
With this
https://github.com/rajetic/auto_oculus_touch
for binding it to Oculus controllers
As a bonus
https://gitlab.com/gima/obsnotification
To hear that it did indeed save

>>396082957
Oh shit, I forgot I can try that now since I was given a free copy of D3:BFG earlier this week.

>>396089510 (me)
>for binding it to Oculus controllers
Define a hotkey in OBS for "Save Instant Replay" or "Start/Stop Recording" or whatever else you need, create a autohotkey script that binds oculus button combination to that hotkey, start the script (maybe set it to autostart)

>flat games held back by needing to be able to run on consoles
>vr games held back by needing to be able to run on quest
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
LET ME OUT

>>396093308
Yeah, but VR > flat games nowadays

live

>>396099905
>mfw playing any shooter after vrfps
>there are people that unironically think CS is better than Pavlov and that Pavlov should be more like CS
>scary flat game is now an oxymoron
>immersive flat game is now an oxymoron
I didn't notice until I took a break from vr for a while but damn it's really something else.

>>396106836
When we have trained ourselves to look around and notice our periphery due to VR, flat games just can’t give as much immersion any longer.

>>396074343
Dynamic foveated rendering really doesn't help much unless you have a big fov, and the industry trend right now is less fov in exchange for less bulky and lighter form factor.

>>396106836
I can't even be bothered to open any flight-sims these days unless it has VR support either officially or not.

>>396108038
It depends on genre for me. The ski goggle effect is still very real on most headsets, and having to do regular checks to your sides that require head movement gets tiring after awhile. Pistol Whip is really bad for this.

>>396108038
It's just the simpleness of the interactions and how emergent everything is. Flat games your only interaction with the world is with button presses. Physically pulling things back is just too nice. Even simple things like chamber checking.

>>396108856
If foveated rendering wasn't a big deal with present FoV, Sony wouldn't have wasted R&D adding eye tracking to PSVR2.

>>396010720
you sound retarded desu

>>396113805 (Cross-thread)
I'll ask this here too then

>>396106836
vr games, outside of being vr-interactive, etc. are usually severely lacking in depth or scope....... and yet your comment is still mostly true for me too.
im praying psvr2?? and whatever else brings big dev money in.
i hope shit is fully realized before im toast (or society imploads). i need to witness

>>396116420
>im praying psvr2?? and whatever else brings big dev money in.
I don't. I don't want another generation of console games that have a VR component that's glorified DLC that's PSVR-exclusive again.

>>396116420
Honestly I want to say I hope for there to be a competitor to the quest that breaks down the walled garden zucc is trying to build but I just know it's going to have the same demographic if it did - kids. Most realistic hope is for VRC worlds to get some continuity, saved stats or gear, and progression. Turn that game into an actual vr MMO that exists adjacent to the current content. Either that or Townshit stale actually getting content and stability.

>>396117752
>Most realistic hope is for VRC worlds to get some continuity, saved stats or gear, and progression
If they let you do text crap ingame so you can select&copy ascii from a dialog box, game worlds in theory could just use ye olde password input systems to resume a state on a following visit (or have the client be able to store these strings locally on a per-world basis).

>>396116697
>i don't want a generation of console games..
yea, don't care. i'll take the precedent/exposure to vr over shortsighted tears

>>396117989
I just hope PSV2 is actually good hardware this time around. PSVR1's reliance on old tech absolutely throttled it and made it a bad experience for a lot due to a shaking environment.

That also said, for the love of fucking god, put a breakout cable on it also since it'll be hooked directly up to a PS5 this time rather than an indepedent upscaler/signal-processing box. Don't want people yanking their whole console off the TV stand by accident now.

>>396117752
true but im fine with zucc bankrolling vr in the meantime. which game studios do they own? or which games are they directly responsible for?

i hope they're paying just a LITTLE bit of attention to the last 30 years of console war and the fact that good games sell systems.
it ain't beatsaber

>>396118924
>which game studios do they own?
Beat Saber Games.
BigBox VR (Population: One)
Sanzaru Games (Asgard's Wrath. More recognized as the Sly 4 devs)
Ready at Dawn (Lone Echo. More recognized as the The Order: 1886 devs)
Downpour Interactive (Onward)
Whoever made that one subscription-based fitness game.
Pretty sure there's a couple other big VR players I'm forgetting


> or which games are they directly responsible for?
As in footed some/most of the bill to get made? Off the top of my head...

Medal of Honor VR (although they got wet-feet last minute and made it available to non-Oculus VR platforms)
Lone Echo 1 & 2/Echo VR
Asgard's Wrath
Bonelab
Phantom: Covert Ops
Stormland

>>396117923
there have been adventure-style worlds doing this for years already to skip to different chapters
much less complicated without any stats to save but it /is/ being put to use in some fashion

>Mod in beat saber maps
>Almost all of them are trash
>Would never know which to use of the good ones
>Can't figure out I want to play more than ever now than I can do custom songs (this one is a big problem)
also can't decide between my shrek and verac avatar
Can someone just tell me their process? Like how someone just chooses a song (or playlist?) and commits to it. Was thinking of just doing curated playlists but there is the call of the meme shit too

I'm stressed the fuck out for other reasons and this is amplifying it hard

>>396089510
Thanks anon, think I also just need to lay off recording a little in general unless it's something particularly interesting. I like watching myself but it gets overwhelming with the time spent editing anyway

>>396119632
I just sniff around on bsaber.com for what's currently hot in the given week, and check out the beatmap preview within the browser to see if it's worth my time.

>>396119467
cool, thanks. i don't hear a lot about these games here.. which is understandable
but i was somewhat surprised when i came around asking about asgard's wrath a couple times and almost no one had played it ..given the production quality and reviews for it
there (wasn't) ever much discussion about a lot of these games anywhere really

>>396119807
Yeah the thing is I'm not really picky just need something to decide on, so the idea of packs (5-10 songs?) are probably better for me

>>396120275
I hardly hear anyone talk about Asgard's & Stormland, and it's a two-fold problem.

1) Oculus PC exclusive
2) 1080gtx or gtfo back when 20XX series was unobtainable

>>396118924
Right now the quest is getting the market completely untapped by PCVR by being the cheapest, standalone, heavily advertised, and requiring no room setup or PC to hook it up to. It's sitting in the price range that inattentive parents tend to spend as a child occupier for christmas or birthdays. It's basically the mobile games market in both scope, market size, audience, and quality.

>>396120724
You forgot one other factor about the Quest: Readily available in retail outlets.


Most PCVR headsets these days are online-only purchases. I expect PSVR2 to have respectable units sold simply because it'll also have a retail outlet presence.

>>396119467
>Bonelab
source?

I'm having this weird issue where *some* games wobble to the sides really fast any time I move my view. Half Life Alyx, Adventure Climb VR and Phasmophobia do this, and I know Alyx didn't always. It's bad enough that the games are unplayable, does anyone know what might be up with this?

>>396115083
plug in some earbuds. pretty sure the Index has a 3.5mm port.

>>396129227
check if you hitting frametimes

>>396129438
I'll figure out how to do that, thank you. Is there anything I can do about it if that turns out to be the problem? I'm on a 5600X and a 3070

>>396129882
Lower rendering resolution or refresh rate of the headset.

>>396129438
>>396130128
So I did a bit of testing with fpsVR and lowered refresh rate to 90hz.
Got 7ms frametime at worst in Alyx, but the jittering was still happening even after lowering some graphics settings. Not as much as before, but it was still uncomfortable to play. In Adventure Climb I had 3.6ms at the highest and also had the same problem still. Blade & Sorcery got me 6.5ms at the highest and ran smooth.

The weirdest part about this is that these games have run perfectly fine before on weaker hardware

>>396142593
What is your headset ? What kind of connection ?

>>396142915
Oh yeah I should mention that of course. I'm on a Quest 2 through Virtual Desktop, always have been. I don't *think* it should matter as it has worked fine like this in the past and it's just these particular games.

>>396143187
Maybe something changed with your network. Connected anything else in 5Ghz ? Try to play with the bitrate maybe. I've had the game lagging a bit when it was set too high.

>>396143706
I'll try fucking with the bitrate next time, but it should be autoadjusting when needed. I've disconnected everything from the 5GHz, but these games were fine before I did that as well.
It doesn't seem like it's because of heavy load because B&S is heavy and runs smooth while Adventure Climb is light and doesn't.

Either way, thank you very much for the help, I'll keep tinkering with fpsVR which I didn't even know existed until now.

>>396144125
>fpsVR
fpsVR only works through steamVR, and running steamvr with quest2 is suboptimal.
Airlink has Oculus Debug HUD.
VD has an overlay too, but I didn't personally use it, so I don't know how to enable it.
>Either way, thank you very much for the help,
You were talking with multiple people.

>>396144830
>running steamvr with quest2 is suboptimal.
I haven't even thought about whether you could play SteamVR games without SteamVR. Is that a thing?

>You were talking with multiple people.
Ah well, "you" can be plural too so let's include all of you in there

>>396145570
>SteamVR games without SteamVR
OpenComposite is a thing, but not every game supports it.
But in general, you should be running ever OpenXR or Oculus mode, if the game supports it. And most big games do.

>>396145951
>even
either*

>>396144830
>Airlink has Oculus Debug HUD
not him but where to enable that?

>>396145951
What's the best way of going about with this? Opening through the Oculus app after setting Oculus as the active OpenXR runtime?
As you're probably able to tell, I'm not the most knowledgeable about this, so pardon my stupid questions. I just enjoy playing the games.

And thanks again!

>>396147049
Pic related.

>>396147303
Not sure about OpenXR as default runtime with VD, but for Airlink you have to set it, yeah.
After that, with airlink, I usually just use desktop version of steam (either through actual or virtual monitor) and press Play, if there are multiple runtimes available, the game usually lets you choose.
Don't know specifics with VD, because I don't use it myself.

>>396147303
Some games require a launch parameter to use Oculus mode, but it can vary between games. Steam usually provides a launch option, but if you're pirating you gotta look around
R*ddit has a list of steam store games with Oculus support
https://www.reddit.com/r/oculus/wiki/steamgameswithnativesupport/

>>396118474
PSVR2 will at least have foveated rendering for all games, which should help make up for the last gen AMD hardware it uses. It's sad that even PCVR headset that have eyetracking can't do proper dynamic foveated rendering universally.

Has anyone played the L4D2 VR mod? I'm scared about the VAC ban if you dont have -insecure used.

>>396160208
I've played it a bit singleplayer. I think that it needs a lot more work right now. No roomscale is disorienting and the performance is pretty bad which is weird as L4D2 isn't that intense graphically. I too don't want to risk the VAC ban. I hope that they sort that out with an update.

>>396118924
>it ain't beatsaber
but it is lmao
imagine with they pull out the plug of steam/psvr version
i would love to see it

>>396155216
Have they said something about foveated rendering? It's got eye-tracking for sure, but any commitment to foveated rendering would surprise me.

>>396176940
https://www.androidcentral.com/gaming/virtual-reality/gdc-2022-provided-a-glimpse-into-the-future-of-ps-vr2-games
They mentioned it at GDC. It apparently gives a big performance boost. If only Valve or other standards maintainers had gotten their together so we could enjoy it as well.

>>396177673
You need eye-tracking to do it so it's not like current consumer headsets are capable of it anyway.

>>396177673
>>396177970
OpenXR already supports foveated rendering.
Once headsets with eyetracking become mainstream, you would only be able to blame incompetent retarded devs.

>>396177970
Even headsets like the Vive Pro Eye and the Varjo Aero which have tobii eye tracking can't do it. That said it's mostly because of the aforementioned retarded incompetent devs. OpenXR itself is barely adopted. Sony at least seems to be making all devs use foveated rendering for their PSVR2 games.

wat even is openxr
can i have openxr while i have the steamvr open

>>396178537
>Varjo Aero which have tobii eye tracking can't do it
Varjo Aero can. I've read the API.
You can implement PCVR rendered with foveated rendering today.

What eye tracking is for if not for Foveated rendering anyway ? In a VR situation, obviously. Help faggots Vtuber looks cute ?

>>396179219
Could be useful for game interactions.
You know where the user is looking so you can correct the input, for example in a game like alyx you can see the user's intention gravity pull the wanted item.
There are many advantages even outside of foveated rendering and social vr.

>>396178626
It's a set of standards. SteamVR is already OpenXR compliant. It used to use OpenVR while Oculus used something proprietary, so developers would have to make two different versions of their games for different platforms. Now it should be possible to make one version of a game that runs on both with minimal differences.

The standards include things like how the buttons are referenced, for example the lower face button on both Index and Touch controllers is referenced in the same way so the game will naturally work the same on both controllers without having to make a control scheme specific to both and will also work on future OpenXR compliant controllers. It also means that one analog input method, a stick or a touchpad, is the standard, so the touchpad on Index should always be an optional input method to prevent the game being unplayable on other controllers.

>>396180278
The funny thing is that Oculus are the ones who push OpenXR hard.
If you read the docs for devs, the old oculus runtime is considered legacy right now and for everything new OpenXR is recommended.

>>396176940
Yes, both them and their devs have announced support for foveated rendering.

>>396177673
It really does suck that PC VR keeps lagging behind.

>>396177970
The only issue with the belief that "oh well it's not like we can make use of it anyway" is that in reality, fixed foveated rendering already gives us a huge performance boost (the Unity devs with PSVR 2 quote 2.5x, while dynamic foveated rendering is "only" 3.6x). So we could have that performance boost already since 2016, if the industry just cared to do it.

>>396178248
The video cards also need to support it and I'm not sure Nvidia can apply VRSS+VRS to everything. Apparently VRS doesn't even work in games with deferred rendering. And even then, it needs to be implemented by devs. Meanwhile on Quest today, you can apply it to any app just by using debug tools.

>>396178881
Unfortunately OpenXR's only an API, you still need support from GPU vendors. And on PC, AMD doesn't have any support for FR. Nvidia does but only through VRS/VRSS which has limitations. And then there is Varjo's OpenXR extension which does quad view rendering and has its own set of trade-offs.

>>396180776
"Fixed" foveated rendering is horseshit but also was already being done back in the day. Lots of Quest 1 games used it. The reason why it isn't widespread outside of ultra-performance constrained platforms is because it looks like complete shit to anyone with eyes.

>>396180776
>The video cards also need to support it
>Unfortunately OpenXR's only an API, you still need support from GPU vendors.
Wrong. Vulkan already has everything today to implement true dynamic foveated rendering for both vendors (nvidia and amd).

>>396180278
great, iracing recently got openxr support and i heard it has performance improvements
just now changed the display mode from openvr to openxr and seems to work
there also was the openxr toolkit thing for ffr and upscaling right

any games recommended for limited movement?
Waiting for extra cabling to arrive to set up 2nd base station and clear up more space.

>>396179219
Eye movement is an important part of body language (for non-autists). But I think reliable eyetracking might be a really good way to navigate menus. Failing that, it'd be nicer than head-aiming in applications that currently do that.

>>396181472
how limited? Almost all VR games work fine with like 2x2m, enough to stretch your arms out. If you want a random recommendation, paper beast is cool and works fine even seated.

>>396179805
>>396181736
Thanks for the answers i appreciate it.

>>396182117
ya games that work seated for now

>>396182604
VTOL VR, Vox Machinae and Space Docker VR are all played sitting down.

>>396155216
>It's sad that even PCVR headset that have eyetracking can't do proper dynamic foveated rendering universally.
It's two things.
- The eye tracking has to be faster than fast.
- The GPU has to actually be capable of rendering different sections of the canvas in variable resolutions without requiring multiple passes, which only cards starting from the RTX2000 series onwards are capable of

>>396181108
The level of foveated rendering can be changed to give a good balance of performance to visual quality. Even when lens-matched, it's still better than not having any at all.
As for Quest foveated rendering, iirc there was a bug that made edges unaligned which made it more noticeable than it should've been.
Back in the day, in fact, Nvidia did have other methods to do fixed foveated rendering, and games like Raw Data and that Batman game actually used it.

>>396181181
How does that work? Vulkan is also simply just an API.
Varjo was only able to do FR, according to their documentation, by either using their extension so that you render 4 views, or by using VRS.
Nvidia themselves state that foveated rendering is only possible because they modified their hardware itself to do it. Otherwise you run into trade-offs like what you get with the quad view trick Varjo did unless used in tandem with SMP.

On one side, the Quest 2 helped VR games to grow.
On the other side, we got monkey paw'd and now most devs will make shitty ports for Quest 2 instead of proper PC VR games.
Why is the video game industry fucking cursed

>>396187304
*why is unregulated or poorly regulated capitalism fucking cursed

>>396187469
Yes, because Communism or even more government control short of Fascism over the entertainment industry would solve this

>>396187061
>How does that work? Vulkan is also simply just an API.
With variable rate shading (which is basically MSAA/SSAA but in reverse).
I can explain to you specifics, but there is no point.
What's important, that it works.

>>396187702
Everything devolving into shit to maximize profits doesn't seem like the best economic system desu.

>>396187702
That's why I used "poorly" instead of "less". We already have a lot of regulation, but the problem is they're not really working well to do what they were intended to do.

>>396187875
Can you show me an example of an app with VRS working on an AMD GPU then?

>>396187469
>*why is unregulated or poorly regulated capitalism fucking cursed
What does this even mean in the context of his post. Do you want to the government to dictate what platforms developers are able to develop for. The fact of the matter is that Quest is the larger platform. It will attract the most people who want to play your game.

>>396187469
The Quest 2 is just a cheap, easy to use, and actually not bad platform for normalfags. I don't see how regulations would have changed that.
As much as i'm seething, i can see why people are happy to play on quest 2 instead of having a 2k monster PC + 1K VR headset

>>396187983
>>396188886
I don't see how the government is going to help video games, especially in this sort of situation. Maybe if Meta was forced to stop making devices or something.

>>396189167
https://github.com/KhronosGroup/Vulkan-Samples/tree/master/samples/extensions/fragment_shading_rate_dynamic

>>396189372
>>396189872
>>396190254
Yeah it might be a little confusing in context. The idea is that Quest 2 is only this successful because it can be driven by anticompetitive market behavior, like many other big platform owners do. With regulations that actually work, this wouldn't have happened, therefore preventing as large growth in these huge platforms, and giving PC a higher market share.

>>396190254
The bajillion dollar video game industry that lead to total stagnation due to the stakes involved was created by government practices that encourage monopolies.

>>396187304
PC VR really only has itself to blame for having standards.

>>396187304
I'm just hoping the visual standards for mobile VR will grow as more devs drop Quest 1 support.
I doubt it. They'll probably look the same now and the devs just use Quest 2's spec bump to bruteforce the minimum 72fps Facebook requires, rather than optimize

>>396192572
It's not only visual tho. Even if they make better looking games, we'll get cucked by shitty CPU.
VTOL VR won't come to Q2 because it's actually CPU heavy, for example. You can't make complex games on this bitch.

>>396190269
That's odd. I actually just looked up AMD VRS and it does exist, and has existed for a while, though not used in the context of VR, and Varjo didn't mention it either. If AMD GPUs can actually run separate shaders on blocks of pixels, then it should be possible. But then why didn't anyone talk about supporting it?

Well that would be one problem taken care of. Does a VRSS alternative exist for AMD also or is it only VRS?

>>396194949
>Does a VRSS alternative exist for AMD
You can easily implement it with VK_KHR_fragment_shading_rate too.
The tools exists for a long time, most devs are just garbage.

PPSSPP, a PSP emulator now runs on the Quest 2. Really slaps playing Monster Hunter in VR.

>>396195674
Is there an option to just view the content through a window, as if you were gaming on a 3dtv?

>>396196030
Yeah you can map a button to toggle between flat screen curved floating in a void with just normal aspect ratio. Then you can toggle into this 6DOF mode. Menus are fucked in VR so you have to briefly go into flat screen to do inventory stuff. Works with cabled controllers into the headset as well. Using an Xbox series X controller with usb c.

>>396196680
>Menus are fucked in VR
Yeah, I figure most of it would be mapped 1:1 with the output resolution of the headset, which would mean shit at the edges of the PSP screen would all be tucked into your peripheral, which isn't ideal.

Long as the flat screen is still stereo though, that's good enough for me.

People browse the thread in VR, don't fucking longline.

>>396197159
Pretty weird any 3D environment places your 6DOF camera on the scene, and you can set an fov. Some games the UI isn’t such a big deal. But already got like 20+ games on my Quest 2 now. Very comfy, and most PSP games completely embarrass modern VR devs in terms of content and gameplay.

>>396197417
>iwn hang out with the bros and browse 4chan together

>>396183475
thanks vtol looks pretty cool

>>396196680
>Works with cabled controllers into the headset
is that a requirement or can I use quest controller input?

>>396202450
You can use quest 2 controllers, there is custom button mapping for every button.

>>396203060
how well does it work with FPS like Medal of honor

>You can't make friends in VRCha-
Pic rel applies to real life as well fyi

>>396205175
That works and all but I prefer building stuff myself and let those who do that social stuff go to me instead.
It's a different playbook but both are viable for us to be able to stave of our boredom. You either hop around to find good communities or you build one yourself.
Of course no one does one exclusively. There is a mix of searching around vs building that each person employs on a gradient.

For me /vrg/ is the coolest and by god I will help it be the coolest just like many other anons do.

>>396205175
good bait, here's your (you), go back to the other thread kthxbye
i actually like vrc but shitposting like this is dumb

>>396203060
Man, this game has not aged well visually. Used to think nothing could look better on a PSP.

>>396203060
Why not just play BNG

you dont want to be on a social vr platform, you just want vr content

Wow, I knew Into the Radius was inspired by Roadside Picnic (book), but this is really cool.
They literally have an Empty in the game!

>>396211692
the 'happiness free for everyone' line is also paraphrased in one of the loading screen tips

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWNc3kbJVac

>>396216334
Think people trust the Chinese even less than Facebook, despite high tiktok usage.

>>396180776
the 5700 xt equivalent in ps5 doesnt "support" foveated rendering btw. I dont think thats too big of a deal since it can be well executed on the software side only.

>>396211692
Yeah! As you keep playing you'll actually see that most things are inspired by roadside picnic.

>>396187469
Predatory pricing is already illegal, I guess nobody cared enough to sue them. Will you step up and sue them?

>>396204152
Not tried any, though the PSP wasn’t known for its FPS.

>>396206246
Looks much much better in motion. These are just Quest 2 screenshots and I am running it at 8x PSP rendering. Wipeout Pulse probably one of the best on the emulator for VR.

I picked up a vive cosmos for $120.
Anyone have experience with it? People said they improved the tracking software since launch but I haven't had a chance to try it myself. Even if the tracking is still bad I won't feel burned at that price and I can always buy the faceplate htc sells to use the vive controllers and tracking boxes and still be under $400.

>>396203060
>>396242252
>there's no VR-JetMoto with a Hydro Thunder sense of humor and pro skater sound track
Every day, I stare at the sky and wonder why we're still here. Why hasn't God smeared us across the landscape for our ignorance?

>>396211692
This is mega autistic but I wish the artifacts were bigger, like STALKER sized. It was cool watching artifacts float around and cast dancing shadows everywhere in that game, I would've loved to be able to do that in VR.

>>396245549
I feel like a Hydro Thunder would be a puking simulator in VR.

>>396249648
retard blogger from yesterday holy shit why did I mod this game, was already getting stressed out from indecisiveness now I'm focusing too hard on recording meme songs and not even getting gud/playing for real anymore fuck

Also any recommendations for alt stages that don't lag the fuck out of the game?

>>396250212
Didn't mean to quote, my bad

>gave away my vive when I moved since I planned to buy the next gen index
>next gen is years away
I'm honestly just considering getting base stations + a Pimax or something.

>>396250873
It's why I got a Quest 2 as a side-grade to my Rift CV1. The shit I want in a headset isn't hitting consumer headsets any year soon, so I may as well at least enjoy current VR wirelessly.

Index Deckherd probably won't be seen until 2024 at the minimum.

>>396250873
If you got the rig to power it, the patience to tinker a bit, and the budget, the Pimax 8k X has been the best experience I've had across 8 different headsets. Clarity is only slightly below the non-Varjo clarity kings, the FoV is godlike and added so much for me in a bunch of games, and the colors, once properly dialed in, are still LCD colors but they feel high tier by LCD standards.

You really have to have some patience to set it up right, however. It's an enthusiast headset and the out of the box experience leaves some to be desired. If you got ultra-budget of literally 2000+, then I might wait for the 12k or get the 5kS if you still want FoV or high hz as a hold over. Far easier to drive, but image quality is somewhat below the Index, minus the glare. Or just buy the Quest 2 to tide you over to the next gen if you don't mind the Zucc. Even after the price hike, it's hard to beat in value. If you're outside the US, you can consider the Pico Neo for something better at a similar price, but then you're dealing with the CCP.

>>396251085
>so I may as well at least enjoy current VR wirelessly.
I'd have probably upgraded to an index if it weren't for that, I had a link before and I couldn't stand it not to mention constant problems. At this point it seems stupid to not wait everyone to unveil their new VR headsets in the fall, anyway

>>396252873
I figure anything announced in the fall would be well out of my budget range for a bit, so grabbing a Quest 2 a few months ago felt like a decent compromise for now. Was trying to hold out to see what a Quest Pro looked like, but after they announced Cambria was business focused I said fuck-it, since that means Index price range at minimum there, and I'd rather just an Index at that point.

>>395559617 (OP)
One of my OG vive lighthouses died and doesn't track anymore. Neither lens inside has broken off either, and looking at the lighthouse just greyscreens the vive. Controllers fly into infinity when infront of it too. Would it be better to replace it with 1 lighthouse, get a whole set for 300 bux or just say fuck it and get a quest2+pc connector? Not wasting 1k on vr parts again, I just want to shoot vr guns. The index and its cheap controllers aren't worth it to me.

>>396256479
>index
>cheap controllers
uhhh

>>396256797
Don't care, what options between the two would you pick?

>>396256479
If the price bump didn't just happen on Quest 2 I'd have said that. New base station is $200 no? Or see if the broken one can get serviced.

>>396256797
They cost a lot, but the controllers are fragile pieces of shit.

>>396259207
Yeah it's weird but their quality control is just not up to snuff

>>396256479
Isn’t there a 2nd hand lighthouse you can get off ebay?

i plan on watching a new vampire anime called call of the night when i get on tonight
does anyone wish to join me?

>>396281039
you just want to groom me into doing ERP in VRChat, I'm not falling for it again

>>396281209
gonna be a friends + lobby
so uh
dont pull your weird cock out

>>396281976
oh so it's a GROUP grooming huh? That's even worse, you're likely to stop paying attention to the anime midway through and just start molesting me

>>396281039
>>396281976
wrong thread you filthy tranny

>>396282604
thread my balls in your mouth you fag

It is Pavlov DAY

>>396249648
It'd be an awesome puking simulator.

Half-Life Alyx is just not good. I'm at chapter 5 and it almost like I'm forcing myself to play.
Why the fuck it feels so soulless? The game feels dead.

>>396290293
I agree. I don't understand the praise for it. It's not particularly interesting as a game and its VR interactivity was years behind even on release. I found HL2 boring as well, but the original Half Life was kino.

>>396290293
picking things up with the gravity gloves is very satisfying

>>396290293
Becasue it's so outdated by it's design decisions that apart from graphics it was surpassed by a lot of other things already by the time it came out.

>>396290293
Maybe too little fighting, too little action. You're too grounded down, unable to climb, unable to perform all of the other fun jank we have in every other VR game. I understand it's trying to emulate a slow survival horror, but god damn, being forced to go slow feels ten times as horrible in VR as it does in flat games. In Boneworks, you can nearly glitch physics and fly around the map like a madman, the only thing that restricts you is yourself and basic rules of physics, beats teleport-to-sprint any day of the week.

Still, no idea why you hate it so much. World looks and feels amazing, good old half-life stuff happening around, vortigaunt feeds you headcrabs, shit's cool. Also, you're just about to start this meme jeff episode, so better stay tuned and maybe push yourself a bit further.

>>396290845
It gets old after 2 hours.

>>396291973
>beats teleport-to-sprint any day of the week.
I'm playing with smooth loco, manual ladders and increased movement speed.
>Still, no idea why you hate it so much.
I think my main issue is that the world feels fake. Braindead enemy AI doesn't help too.

>>396291973
Dumb redditspacer+longliner.

@396292563
this is not redditspacing you stupid fucking ape

>>396292563
How are you meant to simultaneously avoid 'reddit spacing' and 'longlining'?

>>396292767
Split the line, but don't put empty lines between.
For example instead of
>Maybe too little fighting, too little action. You're too grounded down, unable to climb, unable to perform all of the other fun jank we have in every other VR game.
you do
>Maybe too little fighting, too little action.
>You're too grounded down, unable to climb, unable to perform all of the other fun jank we have in every other VR game.

>>396292767
single newline
40char limit
final destination

>>396293093
>>396293058
Why are we doing this now?

>>396293619
Obnoxious to read in VR.

>>396293753
Can't you just use the 'force long posts to wrap option' or use a narrower browser window?

>>396293619
4chan secret club requires you
to not write long posts
yes moot was redditspacing
he's gone now
draw your own conclusions
ideal posts should follow haiku format
but ordinary posts with line breaks
are fine too

>>396294038
Blessed.

>>396294009
>use a narrower browser window?
It's annoying when you just mirror the desktop.
>force long posts to wrap option
I cannot find that option in 4chanX.

>>396294038
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>>396294497
>>396294009
>It's annoying when you just mirror the desktop.
Not only that, with narrow window, image preview on hover is also retarded.
You want a big window for that.

>>396294910
Steel Diver sub wars is dead man. let go

>>396292767
You gotta type like it's discord

>>396298874
instead of reddit

>>396187469
>>396188886
I hate niggers like you so much it's unbearable. You have no right to speak about shitty "capitalism" while living in first world.
Go try to live in third world capitalism/other -ism and see how much your live would improve.

>>396299651
Yeah, we have the bright future of bugs, pods, and everything as a service to look forward to! Praise capitalism, and if you don't like it, go and live in North Korea.

>>395920834
>Is there an option to make them dark brown?
That automatically activate if you stole the game.

Where is the Pavlov announcement?!

in the thread with failed normalfags i bet

>>396304063
Yeah, it is. Stupid Gem nigger.

>>396303874
>Pavlov
>>396301987 (Cross-thread)

>>396304141
So is this mainly a European thing?

>>396303874
It's Tuesday! Time for Pavlov Seach and Destroy!
At 1900 UTC+1
Join the community server: "Gem Server!"

The server has an IP whitelist, whitelist yourself by going to sparkleyserver.top
Headpat people when you join anyway
Gem server maps! https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2662720448

>>396305010
There's a few Americans who play.

>>396305010
It's hosted on a europe server at a european time so yes

>>396243727
ive only heard bad. you might want to get the based station module for it

>the perfect grenade doesn't exi-

>>396320695
Inferno is the best CS map.

>>396321120
That would be Mirage

>>396321485
That would be disinfo

have you guys even seen nuke

>>396211692
>two copper discs the size of frisbees
>quarter inch thick
>a foot and a half apart
Jesus that full empty was going to be a two man lift. Anyway I really would have liked ItR to have more effects from artifacts. Currently there's only healing, night vision, making foot prints, one that attracts enemies, and that one time stopping grenade. Would be nice to have one that made you completely silent at the cost of making you deaf for its duration to help with stealth stuff. Or maybe one that repaired the item in your other hand to bring stuff out of red condition in the field.

>>396195674
That's cool. What is the difference between this and PPSSPP VR on PC?

>>396320695
Isn't that someone else's grenade.

>>396278840
they are 150 usd and the shipping would take a month. Not worth it when I can get a used full vive set for like 300 cnd.

>>396257402
That's what I figured, I might have mine serviced but it will also be 100 cnd. It's really strange how hard it is to get the 1.0 base stations.

>>396331412
Yes. I merely witnessed it.

>>396323061
Unfortunately yes and I've also unfortunately seen reddit as well.

>>396286781
More information please. Time?

>>396205175
Are in real life normies interesting in guns, killing, and larping as a terrorist exploding precious sites? If so then I am soooo in!

>>396337907
You've missed it: >>396305184

>>396338371
>and larping as a terrorist exploding precious sites
I actually found someone who was doing this and I joined along in his charade across a few public worlds. Shit was fun. Granted this was pre-Questlet days.

>>396339380
Was about five hours ago? I don't use UTC. I'm trying to understand next tuesday's Pavlov schedule.

>>396345043
6 hours ago from now

for me it's teleport + space mover locomotion

>>396351950
based wheelchair enthusiast

>>395559617 (OP)
VR is saved
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT2u84ZEUl4

>>396359240
By a flat game?

I hate OBS

why

>watched touhou videos with jap friend in neosvr
we're all gonna make it

>>396345043
The thing about UTC is that you can convert from it into whatever time zone you are in

>>396366145
Because with shadowplay I can just hit a macro and save the last 5 minutes of what I just played

>>396377019
You can do this with OBS, it's called a replay buffer

Sell me on Pavlov

>>396379894
You shoot gun but with your hands.
Manual reloading is the best feel

>>396379894
It's alive, looks good, feels good, and is regularly hosted.

>tfw Pavlov won't support FBT leaning until Questlets can

>>396389110
The new IK (that Quest already has) was meant to be able to lean slightly based on head rotation, but I don't know whether they actually allowed that. It can lie on both the front and back, too, but that was intentionally disabled on S&D.

>>396393569
It would have to calibrate correctly to your height for such a thing, so it knows your general standing height, and what a 'lean' should look relative to just simply angling your head while standing mostly straight up.

>>396394743
It already does that. The maximum height the headset moves to during the game sets your height. If you stand on something in real life you'll get taller until you leave the server. There was a video of the leaning posted on their discord server about 2 years ago.

>>396395315
>If you stand on something in real life you'll get taller until you leave the server.
Time to grab my ladder and run around as a giant ingame...

>>396395928
You can just use playspace mover.

first day of VR, played beat saber for 5+ hours, had fun.

>>396396826
Which is fine for the PC version. I also want to do it in Shack.

>Suddenly every process and program in existence is in my library instead of games
Also why is every beat saber block mod obnoxiously dark and hard to differentiate

>>396389110
>implying not using pcvr
Be mad at poverty fags for holding you back with their shit desktops
what's IK, by the way

>>396397727
Now grow up into a man and play what VR was made for. Simracing.

>>396401271
Rally sims*

>>396401509
flight sim*

>>396401535
mmm 30 fps

>>396401535
I know what I said

>>396401509
We only have RBR and DR2 for rally in VR, with RBR being a PS2 game with no working clusters, and DR2 not being a real sim, so not exactly.

>>396402272
>DR2 not being a real sim
>it's not a real X
oh here we go

>>396402714
It really isn't and anyone that has driven a car knows that.

>>396403742
>>396402714

>>396404161
You swapped the post numbers around.

ever go full autism

>>396412574
Are you doing a voice changer to sound like a furry character?

>>396399440
I got this last year, a man can dream

>>396416473
the non-jp version also popped up once

>>396416473
wait there's a VR version?

>>396417243
it just showed up in the list, and then disappeared

>>396379894
VRFPS with a healthy mix of arcade/realism and multiple game modes like SND (which is basically pavlov), TTT, Gun Game or Push (which is you classic wave spawn/capture objectives on a large map like Battlefield)

>>396413643
what the hell does a furry character sound like?

>>396423394
I don't know I just see some furry shit in the corner and I can't help but assume.

>>396423787
this man sees furry people

what are the best furry VR games?

>>396424149
Heat

>>396425857
that game has already drained at least a gallon of my virile jizz, is there anything else?

>>396424149
neosvr

Furfags, please discuss this on an appropriate board.

European Vertical Takeoff and Landing Virtual Reality in two hours at 1800 UTC!

>>396426997
these fursuits are getting ridiculous

>>396426997
DATABASE DATABASE
JUST LIVING IN THE DATABASE WOW WOW

This anon is correct
>>396427302
What are the best SFW furry VR games?

>>396430298
Moss, Luckys Tail, Spice and Wolf

>>396433364
>Spice and Wolf
based but that's anime, not furry

>>396433814
Kobro bent just like that for that wolf btw.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>>396434180
shut the fuck up you dickhead

>>396434617
It has been more than 10 years, dude. Yeah, your waifu took some random wolf's knot, but it's time to move on.

>>396436183
exactly! It's time to move on, so stop fucking mentioning it

>>396428787
EU VTOL server up now!
Name EU VTOL
Pass: hotdog

See you there!

>>396430298
Moss, Gorilla Tag, FNAF Help Wanted, Skyrim VR

>>396445435
Can you have custom models in Gorilla tag?

>>396187304
without quest 2 vr would be fucking dead
>will make shitty ports for Quest 2 instead of proper PC VR games.
not true, but you cant blame them when they can make 10x more money on quest than on pc

>>396197458
>proper games have more gameplay and content than stupid tech demos for 20$
no way

hmm is it still safe to play if sore from day before right? i'm not gym nerd so idk if it's good or not to continue until soreness is gone.

>>396447172
Nigga it's video games. We're talking about playing video games here. Man up.

>>396290293
>Why the fuck it feels so soulless? The game feels dead.
so much this
it has cool moments but when you are forcing yourself to play a game, its not a good game

>>396290293
I didn't consider it soulless, but it definitely was "Babby's first VR game" levels of interactions. The limited combat encounters in the first six hours (the AI really needs to be more offensive) didn't help either.

>>396446147
No, you can't show off your ocdountsteel to the whole world like in vrc, why would you want that?

>>396459456
I...
I don't even know any more

>>396447172
Just be sure to stretch. Beat Saber can give you tennis elbow.

hello frends, would anybody be interested in pavlov zombies in 6 hours from now

i will be sleeping

>>396447172
you gotta keep moving so the mustard gas doesn't build up in your joints and cause swelling

wat kind of friend r we gonna catch this time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kuRN0hSyWY

>>396481921
>Neos
>Furry
Of course.

>>396483604
naturally

>>396483418
I wonder if Valve will ever commit to their hardware.

>>396483418
How is he so cute

N

>quest 2 lags after 30 minutes of play
it's over

>>396495805
he has a cute messy nerd look with that hair

>>396509514
From heat or what?

>>396519764
yes, the furry game makes my quest 2 start lagging

>>396532740
>the furry game
Moss 2?