/vrg/ - Virtual Reality General #1717

EU Assetto Corsa: European Racing club
Race 96

18:00 UTC 20:00 CEST, 12th of May (that's tomorrow!)

You know what is happening? 6 hours of SPA! And we have our crew reporting live from there. Gambatte reporters! We are going to have our own matching event - 0.6 Hours of Spa! It's a 2 class race again. GT3 and LMP!

45 minute practice
10 minutes qualifiers
36 minutes race

WARNING, UWAGA! WE START THE RACE EARLIER THAN USUAL!

Afterwards we are continuing to explore Santa Monica Mountains. This times spawn: Stunt road.

If you just bought Assetto - grab Assetto Corsa Content Manager - a better launcher and mod manager: https://assettocorsa.club/content-manager.html To install mods: just drag and drop zip files from mega onto the Content Manager windows and click on the hamburger menu on top right. Highly recommend installing stable custom shader patch and 7-zip plugin in Content manager. Also grab crew chief https://thecrewchief.org/

For communication we'll use mumble at voice.vrg.party port 64738, as it doesn't need any registrations or logins.
https://www.mumble.info/

MODS: https://mega.nz/folder/i3BiyJJK#NwYVwCAEAiV4Psipy4y9Dg

>>523446035 (OP)

I saw what you deleted

I miss my vr friends

what are the best VR-capable games for gooning these days

>>523446264
wink wink

i tend to keep opening threads when no one does even if i'm just lurking them. i'm not particularly ashamed of it, but try to keep it to yourself so we can have less sad shitposting

>>523446490
gooning is losing

Woooah its just like real life!!

>the anti bigscreen and anti meganex options present themselves:
well, /vrg/?
was it a monkey's paw?
can deckard compete in this new landscape of small uOLED hmds?

>>523446490
It could just be my Viking ancestry, but nothing comes close to the battle boner I get from murdering women in Blade & Sorcery

>>523447157
deckard will have a 10000 nit nanoled screen with over the air power transmission. trust the plan

>>523447317
that sounds based
I really liked in modded fallout 3 killing the sexy female raiders with tattoos and stuff. must be even better in VR

>>523447157
why do the images say different things?

>>523447157
> I'm thinking those SE prices are too good to be true. Licensing Tobii's eye tracking and 300 dollars less for the BSB2e equivalent model. They don't sell software, so the only margins they make money on is hardware. Only way they stay above water is doing what they always do. And that's skimping on QC.

>>523447656
that's a new spec reel for the Dream Air SE which is the cheaper variant
also old one prob doesn't include the lighthouse-only version weight etc.

>>523447157
>they'll let you hook it up to devices via USB-C for media
I guess that's a feature...

does bigscreen lose any functionality by working directly with steamvr?

I am leaning towards them because I don't want to deal with shitty chinese / japanese software in addition to steamvr

>>523447991
>does bigscreen lose any functionality by working directly with steamvr?
they handle hmd config via the external tool that saves to the hmd itself
>I am leaning towards them because I don't want to deal with shitty chinese / japanese software in addition to steamvr
I wish I could try out the Dream Air/Dream Air SE/Crystal Super but since they all rely on Pimax Play DRM I can't do so on Linux at all
same with MeganeX 8k and its Nvidia only requirement alongside software sloppa
for now I'm stuck with bigscreen's offerings since they are keeping it simple and clean alongside ETVR-capable cameras for the bsb2e without Tobii slopware locking em up

>>523448170
>Tobii slopware
What did they do?

>>523448308
Pimax works with Tobii still I'm pretty sure (it was used for Crystal HMDs)
the Vive Pro Eye was somewhat recently (in the last several months) reverse engineered so that we could finally use the cameras on Linux with ETVR, but its jank as hell and not trained properly so it doesn't perform very well tracking-wise
Tobii just likes to lock things down so if you don't use their own SDK/software you'll have a hell of a time reverse engineering and getting the camera data yourself
not an issue if you're just using it as intended via Pimax Play ofc for the Crystal or Dream Air headsets I guess

>>523444954
be careful with that trident, i dont want it to pokey poke u :(

>>523448170
hey, retard
how many times are you going to repost the same image?
it's like you have 5 images in your folder total
cat in a toy car gif, this superglue shit

go find some new images, lazy faggot, your shit's stale

>>523447656
>>523447734
actually i stand corrected, I guess there's an updated spec sheet for the original Dream Air now that some stuff is more finalized
the one I posted first was from their store page so perhaps they haven't updated that yet

>>523448665
hey bud I just like silly cat pictures

>>523448580
it's far enough to not poke me and thankfully since its a badge it's not sharp enough!

>>523448761
find new pictures then, you fucking fag
tired seeing the same shit from you for the 100th time

>>523448772
thats gud then. :) the hairpins are cute anyway. maybe a bit smaller imo but idk lol

>>523448915
have you considered filtering md5s or talking about VR instead?

>>523449005
post new interesting pictures, you avatarfagging cunt

how do i keep from having panic attacks in vr

me and my bestie (yuki)

:3

>>523447157
https://youtu.be/OuZDe3TRWUA
prototype through the lens of the sony panels apparently

>>523448919
perhaps? irl theyre big and sorta compliments the others. sized it a bit more bigger and it looks alright but i'll take notes.

>>523449292

if I use 2 lighthouses in an empty room, shouldn't I put one of them low and one high to maximize the tracking?

seems unlikely I would hit a lighthouse in the corner of the room...I would want to avoid walls anyway

>>523449782
try it and report back. genrally it recommends to put them both high since if both see the same device, it has better tracking.

>>523449682
ye it looks alright honestly. It's just hard to tell from a pic but prob just a skill issue on my end

>>523449460
shut the fuck up you polish retard

>>523449782
Both high is better. Your arms block the headset from below.

>>523450123
based

>>523450010
Best to give it a look in-game if i'm honest. Catch me on the next fent friday event and yell/yap at me if it looks off

>>523450253
okiz, will do i promise :3

>>523449752
can somebody yell at me then

Asus Quest when?

>>523451256
>the displays will either be trash or great
oh boy!

>>523451256
vision pro 2 is the only headset worth waiting for if you are not a poorfag/retard

good meowrning /vrg/

I love it when retards pretend like not spending 3k on a headset is somehow poorfag behavior
Rich people understand the value of every dollar you nigger

Also good night vrg

welp. I just paid $15 to get age verified, where should I go now that I wasn't able to go before? don't tell me its only good for telling quest kiddies that im an adult and giving an attitude to those pathetic bouncers at those drinking bars

goodnight /vrarg/

>>523452039
do some raves use verified even? idk doesnt seem worth it.

>>523452039

>>523451990
>Rich people understand the value of every dollar
True. They know money is nothing.
There is literally nothing to spend it on.
If you have to count every dollar, you are a low iq subhuman with 0 impulse control.

>>523451990
>>523452372
From my experience the majority of people, regardless of their income, just spend all their money as soon as they get it.

>>523452825
95% of all people are retarded.

>>523452123
I've got the multipass now, i should be able to access all the sex sims, oh wait there are none that I can find.

>>523452186
silly nazrin

>>523449460
ATTENTION, /vrg/:
The person to the right has refused on multiple occasions to create a donut in Blender.
If anyone happens to cross him, report immediately. This behavior will not be tolerated.

>>523452096
very powerful pose

>>523454169
I fail to see the issue
I've yet to create a donut on blender and I'm doing just fine

>>523455269
He wants a custom avatar, has infinite time, but actively refuses to fuck around in unity and blender to even try

>>523456041
Fair enough will tickle him until he makes a donut

>>523454169
this guy actually made the donut!

Mom! Failed normalfags are shitting up the thread again!

>>523452039
went to a few places that require age verification to enter, so no stupid kids anymore, people were drunk or high that didn't need my attention. I guess its working as expected.

Plus one to this IPs posts in this thread!

>>523457091
let me add to that they didn't really need my attention, they were just fucking around, which proves they were just drunk ass mofos

>>523456783
this but for real

Drawing now!
https://vrch.at/um4at8h7

>>523456783
Nope that's just you, the same whiney content police nigger every thread that can't stop making 100 posts per thread screaming about homosexuals.
Keep increasing that user id post count bro

>the schizo shitposter is still mindbroken weeks later
lmao!

the funniest part is how much you think its samefagging

what are good games for failed weirdfags

We already all saw it was literally just you making a hundred posts under the same user ID when we went to the altchan
No idea who you're trying to fool acting like you're more than one person

how do I make it so modular avatar doesn't auto disable something I have attached to my avatar each time I spawn into a world? I want it on by default and I'll disable it manually if needed?

yes I am dumb and new

>>523462061
I'm gonna need more than that.

The posters themselves know, and it all that matters.
You are a joke.

Why did you stop spamming the dox btw? It took you only a couple of days to run out of steam.

furry freakout last thread was funny

why did phasmophobia UI get so much worse over the years

>>523462701
it always is

managed to get ALVR to work on arch linux with the pico 4
used a steam flatpak + ALVR flatpak like this dude https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5k9htTdpuI says

turns out my problem where i got like 0.1fps was because my app on my pico (the apk) was mismatched to the ALVR version i had on my pc.when i made sure they were both the same version everything worked flawlessly. ill check some games , make sure they all work before i drop windows for good

Please stop using the word "flawlessly" when you get 100ms+ motion-to-photon.
Your system is broken.

>>523462986
Shouldn't ALVR refuse to work if there is a version mismatch? I thought it did that or was it WiVRN?

Maybe just keep wangblows around because most people don't last long since the linux experience is still very rough.

>>523463360
People were upset that a instance host actually had the balls to kick a furry from his instance

>>523462416
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C8c3EoEfw4

>>523463919
That host is a cuck. Anyone who used a furry avatar even once needs to be kicked, no exceptions.
He was just selectively enforcing rules to get at a person he doesn't like, which is just a bitch move.

>>523464379
>Anyone who used a furry avatar even once needs to be kicked, no exceptions.
So you'll point out who all these people are right?
No, of course not, because it's way easier to just bitch at someone else to do it, and then bitch even more when they do actually do it.

>>523464379
kicking even 1 furry is based

it's all just a joke you just get over yourselfs, furries are your best friends

>>523464640
If you have no balls to see it through, don't even start.
You are going to be a bitch in the end either way.

>>523462986
I assume you've toyed around with WIVRN too?
same guy has a vid here: https://youtu.be/o8ho7VG13Ck

>>523464846
>You are going to be a bitch in the end either way.
Describes you perfectly.

>>523466139
You don't know who I am, but everyone know who you are and now you have a reputation of being a bitch.
Nice "no u".

>>523466326
Don't really care what some purity test schizo thinks that whines in the thread for others to fix things instead of actually being the change.
I will continue to kick annoying furries from my instances, and I don't care what reputation that gets me.

>>523467205
You are not fixing shit, retard, that's the point.
You are just abusing your privilege as a host to kick people you don't like, yet too afraid to do anything to people with "cred".
You are a little bitch.

>>523462320
use vrcfury for toggles or download vixen if you wanna only use MA

>>523467376
>>523464640

>>523467479
If you are a little bitch who is afraid to take responsibility all by himself, start a vote.
Right now what you are doing is just pathetic.

>pissing off a furry this much
i kneel K

>you want to kick all furries, means you're a furry
this is what HRT does to your brain, huh

they said it couldnt be done...
HL alyx running on arch linux with an nvidia card via ALVR, and its all using flatpaks so you can run it on any linux distro. maybe windows IS done for even in vr


>>523463569
thats what confused me it kinda worked but i got 1 frame when i turned it on and than black screen. if i moved my head side to side very quickly it gave me 1 more frame of the vr environment and then blackscreen.

my guess is they changed the protocol they use to communicate between the ALVR on the PC and the one on the headset (since you determine all the settings of both from the PC side) so there was some settings mismatch that sometimes allowed 1 frame to work

>>523465459
yes i tried it and it worked
are there some games that it doesnt support tho? i tried district steel (mostly because its a quick download) and it was fine but when i tried HL alyx it wouldnt run.

>>523464121
oh fug this is the real video i wanted to post in this gay ass thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYkguxpqsrg

>>523469093
ADVERSITER-SAN-DONO, GET DOWN!!!!!

>>523469093
can't believe trashnigs would do that in my wholesome f+ instance

>>523469093
it do be like that

>>523469093

>everyone replying but not reporting
the west has fallen

imagine being a little cuck who bothers to report
it takes no effort to ban evade for them anyway, so i'm not going to waste my time

>>523467382
the asset needed MA. I use both VRCF and MA since some need one or the other. How do I toggle it to always stay on with fury?

>>523470497
There are options in the dropdown for the toggle component. IIRC, the one for remembering the current toggle value when switching avatars or moving to another world is "save between worlds" or something like that. You can also change the toggle to default to on

>>523470863
will look into it, ty =]

>>523462320
in the MA Parameter component make sure the parameter is set to "saved"

>>523468693
nice

Where do you guys go to find assets for use in world creation? Booth content seems very geared towards avatar stuff.

>>523472462
Booth, https://vrcprefabs.com/ udon page, google random 3d model sources, sketchfab, self written udon code...

>>523472462
artstation, gumroad, unity asset store, open3dlab and various other free 3D model pages

>>523470078
kek this fucking retard thought this thread wasnt trash adjacent lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

NO ONE GIVES A SHIT YOU FUCKING MONKEY HAHAHHAHA

>>523472904
hey pest, being too lazy to report your stupid ass doesn't mean you're accepted here

>it's another episode of wholesome newfriend leaving the community forever because of trashnigs behaving like animals
unironically worse than furfags

>>523473649
what the fuck are you even talking about schizo

>>523473676
the only thing that you have in common with the jannies is the salary

>>523458647
thank you all for coming!

>>523474105
HEJ LELELELEL LELELELEJ LELEJ LELEJ LELEJ

*whistle for magic horse*

is vrchat not connecting for anyone else?

>>523476558
Are you east coast by chance

https://vrch.at/ws9mwsyu time to mahjong

>>523481867
nice pits

page 10

49 Days remain, acolytes...

how optimized does an avatar really need to be

is there a lazy/fast way to combine materials into a texture atlas without needing to manually edit UVs

>>523491337
yeah its called uv packing and baking. there are also heaps of different auto atlas tools of varying quality.

>>523491337
click imposter button on website. done. otherwise get thrys for unity, find textures 4k and scale them down to 2k or less. you're going to be be fallbak to people unironically no matter what

The horrors of war, virtually retold
https://streamable.com/alux6f
https://streamable.com/ykzj2r
https://streamable.com/3i7z1g

>>523491337
d4rk's avatar optimizer will make you better then 98% of /vrg/, much less the general public, for literally no extra work. Just don't slap too many outfits on a single upload, you get a billion of them so there's no reason to not split them up.

>>523456783

>>523449460
Nice screenshot SQQ

>>523492467
Thanks for the reminder anon, I totally forgot what day it was and managed to send off a text at least before the day was done.

>>523491337
is that... 325k tris for a pair of shoes???

>>523452096
Goodnight jojo anon

>>523491337
I kind of gave up on my optimizing when I realized it would just be blender work all the way down to actually get out of very poor range on my tris

at least most my other settings are medium

>>523491337
i settled for medium, wasn't very difficult to bring it down that far and im just too lazy to optimize any further, plenty of good advice in the avatar hypertutorial though

>>523491337
I try to fix obviously stupid things, but some bases will never make it below 70k so it can feel futile to know you will be very poor no matter what.
With shit models you can get a 2x or 3x improvement in a couple hours of work, but if the model already has good topology but is in the 100k-140k triangle range you are spending a huge amount of time for every thousand triangles.
Your best return on effort is limiting toggles and deleting geometry that will be covered by clothing. This is best done using blendshape deletes so you can just flag the vertices (often already done by the creator of the base) and toggle them off in unity.
And don't be stupid with physbone colliders, there is basically never any reason for any physbone to have more than 3 colliders (and most far fewer) and I've seen travesties even in otherwise well designed models.

>>523493002

>>523495086
i will never forgive the japanese

>>523492947
Hope you have a good day with your mom anon

It’s been awhile since we’ve done an optimisation event.

but first, the flower event

>get the qpro-style strap for pico4 that people seem to actually like
>try it without the cushion
>headset presses down on the tip of my nose so it's hard to breathe
Well this sucks ass.

>>523499534

>>523499840
Objectively false, because I never even saw anyone mention this shit. It even comes with light blockers so as to facilitate cushionless use, but it's not fucking working for me.
brb removing nose

>>523499534
halo straps are a meme

>>523501294
I don't like having to wear a diving mask to play video games. Would have bought the AMVR one if those chink niggers didn't quietly discontinue the actual face cover that used to come with it. Although some people report issues with that one too so I guess I'll die.

>>523499534
have you tried not being dysgenic :(

>>523492259
I have been using this one month after I started vrchat because someone at a just dance world was advertising it, it helps a lot.

>>523499447
I heard yuru is still receiving a modest income from her gumroad flower store. Looks like they currently have an anniversary discount sale on.

This is so cool

>>523446035 (OP)
Calling all Photography Enthusiasts.

/vrg/'s first KINO PHOTO GALLERY EXHIBIT is opening on June 14

Any and all VR photographers are invited to send 6 of their most kino photos or make new ones to send.

The photos we are looking for should be KINO or CINEMA. Contrasted with the Vault which focused on "Memories". This one aims to focus on the ARTISTRY.
Please use this as an opportunity to pick up VR photography as a hobby or aim for perfection as you hone your craft and share in a gallery of fellow photography enthusiasts in VIRTUAL REALITY.

You can send in whatever you want. It'll be compiled into a segment of your own wall as the photographer.
Note images are compressed into 1080p for the map's purposes but you can send 4K images if need be.

(optional) place a title for each of your piece/gallery

Check the world out, this is what we are targeting
https://vrchat.com/home/world/wrld_61c769bf-cc34-4bed-831d-d4865ed87120

Send to: nagato.yuki
or just reply to this post with your catbox link


IMPORTANT DATES
June 07 - Final day of submission
June 12 - Late submission
(non-optimal spots in the map)
June 14- /vrg/ KINO Gallery

From anon VRClens: https://files.catbox.moe/gdguat.zip

>>523498763
Do you consider any event that has optimized avatars an optimization event? ergo FUMO? how about telling people to make sus amogus impostors? ergo Dreadfest

If not then the last time I remember we had an event that actively forced participants to be optimized was the Quest Event back when the Oculus Quest 1 was first made and quest worlds was introduced by VRchat. pic related

>>523503251
>vr headset
>water everywhere
this makes me uneasy. I get that the front has some kind of protection but wtf stops water getting into the lens where your face is wtf

>>523438924
>>523439395
Man JPs get the coolest events

>>523503724
Notice that the facial interface is all rubber. The lens is designed to be wet and you just clean it lol.

>>523499534
>remove the halo cushion as well
>distinctly presses on my head but actually functions relatively well
Maybe I can make this work with some DIY.
>>523501686
Evidently not hard enough. A little late for it now.

Good night /vrg/
I love (you) all

>>523506409
Night night anonnie

>>523503295
can they be animated photos?

https://fixupx.com/VRC_AvaColle/status/1921490472100327477
Wow ths is pretty cool. Actual sellers in a fashion show

>>523508930
Yes but please do make sure they are under 50MB uncompressed texture or something cause animated photos really take the toll on VRAM.

It would also help if you make them as texture sprite sheets.

>>523509457
okay cool, i can keep it optimal.

page 10

/vrg/ is dead
/trash/ won

>>523515769
it's so over, adding sps to my avatar now

>>523515769
sex sells. People can continually talk about sex and random stuff but not VR. I can only post so much. 8 out of the last 10 posts are mine. We need more willing people posting at this timing.

If we can get more acceptance by the janny of off-topic VR related posts it'll be better for the health of this thread.

For example post about your recent VR related dreams!

have you tried playing vr games

>>523516132
I can't play VR games that are not multiplayer.

I'm waiting for the new Oblivion VR multiplayer mode to setup with the boys

stop trying to force shit, retard
it doesn't work
proper discussions happen naturally

>>523516174
If you played vr games you'd have more to talk about.
If no-one plays vr games then there shouldn't be a thread. That simple.

>>523516132
i bought contractors to play with /vrg/, only really tried it and pavlov but had fun playing

are there any other vrfps that i could play with randos online or something? i need to git gud but i don't think most of them have an active community of people at a low skill level

>>523516198
well that's like your opinion man
I've had multiple successful discussions started and done by starting one from a seed as a discussion bait. It's on-topic btw

It's similar to cloud-rain seeding but for discussions

>>523516278
Payday 2 VR, just join any lobby and game is still alive, you be playing with desktoppers thou.
Find 1-2 friends and play thru Dead Effect 2 VR wich is one of the better Co Op VR games with a campaign.

>>523516237
I agree with your main point but the degree is too narrow. I love discussing about the effects of VR not just as a game but as a whole new reality. Haptics, VR's effect on personality and interaction ex. Proteus effect. VR's motion sickness.
The technological and physiological effects of VR is a lot more interesting to me than just how fun VR games can be.

vr games? VR GAMES?!
ANON! ANON! WHAT VR GAMES YA BEEN PLAYAN?!
for me its exfil zone with J and a newfriend.
i have yet to finish hl2vr mod (and not even mentioning the 2 episodes) and i still have to beat vertigo 2.

MR2 my beloved

>>523516507
I've been playing Blender and Unity.

>>523517276
This anon is the MAN
>>523517251
Cute new active poster. Love this cat girl with homophobia

>>523517449
thank you! I've been into odd eye colour since 2015 and tried to match the colours with my 2023 one (and mostly known one oddly enough) but forgot the method to do it xd. Should come say hi ingame sometime!

>>523517697
Do you know/have met the other cat girl from EU with homophobia?

>>523517276
the blender and unity game has shit gameplay.

>>523517908
LOOK AT THIS FUCKING CAT

>>523517930
But it has the best loot! Better grind that unity and blender dungeon if you want those epic gear anon.

>>523517930
it gets better once you'll dive deeper into it. players are often pushed back by steep difficulty curve, but once you'll get an instinctive understanding of the connection between your actions and your failures, it gets so much fun

>>523517908
Nope not yet i'm pretty much a recent newfag after lurking for 2 years on the board. Will probably bump into them someday

>>523518072
>Will probably bump into them someday
Nice. I am humbly requesting a selfie with both of you together when that happens!

>>523517930
skill issue

>>523518054
Unity I can vouch and understand but not blender. then again I should learn it more than just positioning and basic editing on omsi2 bus models to export to vrchat.
>>523518114
Will do on your behalf anon!

>>523518220
For me, blender is probably less annoying of two of them. Blender operates on lower level, rules are simple, logic is straightforward. Unity side is easy and quick to learn, but god damn, I've got into modern unity-heavy avatarfaggotry only recently and I didn't enjoy a single second of googling on what each individual framework and module can do. Don't worry though, no rush, sooner or later you'll learn it all simply by existing around here and having to do a thing or two every now and then.

blender, substance painter, and unity are my top 3 vr games of all time

>>523518407
Lmao I used to be like your back in the end of 2022, unity was so painful to learn back then but i picked up on it pretty quickly in the span of 2-3 months. I can probably pick up on blender with a few tutorials, since it's a lot harder to fuck around with keybinds and the stuff for me blender wise but ty anon!

>>523516507
>questified chink excrement shooter
slavs once again prove that they have absolute dogshit taste in vidya and 0 standards kys

>>523518797
VR is hell for people without dogshit taste

Please... anon... get out of the private world with your vrfu

>>523519034
heh

>>523517276
me too, the blender levels are fun but the game turns to shit when you get to unitytown.
substance DLC made me fall in love with the game again

somebody post that QUIT HAVING FUN meme thanks

>>523519693
Was it this one?

>>523519034
It's a mixed bag really.
On one hand I strongly dislike when people basically live on orange/red status or solely hang out in private instances.
On the other hand it feels awkward being a third wheel when hanging with a couple.

>>523520897
>it feels awkward being a third wheel when hanging with a couple

>>523519693
Was it this one?

>>523521481
Lmfao

Couplers are fucking annoying.

>>523516237
People playing the vr game instead of talking about the vr game. Great news.

>>523521715
Well I think couplers are lovely. Everyone needs to find love!

>>523518797
>Questified
As usual, quest slop schizo proves himself to be an absolute idiot.

>>523519020
Vr is hell for those who want AAA cinematic slop instead of games, yes.

>>523521986
But where is the DEI inserted ugly women and the brown filter and the chest high walls?
I can't game to this! It's terrible

>>523520897
>Be on orange
Reeeeeee oraaaaaaangeeeeeeee, help me niggerman, I have to know ehere you areeeeereeeee!!!

>Be on greeen
Reeeee rando magnet!!!!!

>>523522081
Its a great example of a fun videogame which local schizo will call questslop garbage...
Hurt your hand? Good-core...

>>523522119
Those two sets of people are different guys.
You will have to choose and align to with which person you can tolerate

Orange in vrg instance
Green outside of vrg instance
It's that easy

>>523491337
writing this down before I forget. I was able to cut it down to medium for quest lmao
AAO Trace and Optimize
AAO Remove mesh by box
AAO Remove mesh by blendshape
AAO Merge Skinned Mesh
TTT AtlasTexture
NDMF Mesh Simplifier

>>523492259
oh could i have just used this one package

>>523522403
No, everyone needs to be green
and if a rando comes just ask the rando to turn red if they want to stay in the instance

>>523522081
>paws
Furry detected! Ban him!

>>523503724
Nothing, its immersive experience

good avatar world

>>523522310
i dont friend randos and i dont like normies that friend randos and trashfags so i have no problem being on green at all times
if its different for you then maybe you should fuck off to trash

>>523525948
Are you seriously now saying that anons are not allowed to have friends outside vrg?

>>523526384
Yeah we don't really listen to that psycho. Don't worry about it anon

Most everyone here has a friend outside of /vrg/ too just that we make sure that in the instances posted on the thread the map slot priority are for our friends here in the thread first, then channers then finally randos. Randos gets gutted first if the map size can't handle it

>>523526637
Yukigpt...
Should have stopped at first sentence

>>523526384
He's not wrong. Make a different account if you want to wade in sewage.

>>523527128
I... should really try to not overexplain things but I almost can't help it.

>>523527270
>Your friends are sewage
Thats not very nice

>>523527270
That is quite a psycho behaviour, also extremely annoying to keep switching accounts.

>>523527478
>>523527571
wahh wahh wahh

>>523519020
What do you people even want? How many VR games would have to come out for people to stop saying there are no VR games?

>>523527752
No idea. My standard is if I enjoy playing the game then it was worth my time. This is not enough for some people.

Real VR Fishing today, 18:00 GMT. We're going to bongland.

The gravmace in arken age makes me feel like sauron

>>523517908
>cat
that is very clearly a snake

>>523527752
Probably nothing less than an overhyped fortnightly release that they can drop just in time for the next one.

>>523522119
blue chads rise up

this smol boy got some big pancakes

>>523534463
Game?

>>523535154
That's assetto corsa. The map is one of the really big ones. I can't remember what that one was called.

>>523534972
That the new Pimax?

>>523535209
prototype of it in this vid:
https://youtu.be/Dw5NxR9O4RQ

Hi, Monday Chess + Mahjong will be at 21:00CEST/19:00UTC (~3h from now) as usual
As usual we will start with 1h of chess followed by mahjong at 22:00CEST/20:00UTC (~4h from now)

>>523534972
In a way I'm happy I already simped for my BSB1 and was on the fence for the 2e. I hope this reviews well so i can jump ship.

The air/air se also seemingly having hand tracking on the LH version is huge. Bigmeme unironically got too cocky.

>>523468693
>are there some games that it doesnt support tho? i tried district steel (mostly because its a quick download) and it was fine but when i tried HL alyx it wouldnt run.
alyx runs without issue for me on wivrn
it's only hl2vr that hasn't worked because it's 32bit

Are there any maps or VR games that you like to just revisit from time to time?

Beautiful game but damn does it run like shit. Typical UE5 sloppa non existent optimizations.

>>523539413
god i fucking hate unoptimized unreal engine 5 sloppa

>fetish events in the current year

>>523542003
You're going to make the anti-/trash/ schizo have a stroke with this.

>>523542003
wrong board, trashnig

clockwork bros...

>>523542003
Already made me avatar

>>523542003
already have one avatar, may make another (and another) and also I will host the EU instance if no one else wants to

literally just shirtless event?

>>523542786
its got tags on pixiv and on booru's anon. its a nip internet joke

Why can't we have Yeeps game on steam vr. What the fuck it looks so much fun.

>>523539413
Don't forget the button press interactions because flat was primary focus. Devs are also retards, one of them openly said they won't use dynamic foveated rendering on PSVR2 because they see no benefit in it.

>>523543643
PSVR2 implements a shitty version of dynamic foveated rendering, which barely saves any performance.

>>523542238
I mean, in this particular case he's not wrong, if you have to censor your announcement image to keep it from being deleted, your event probably doesn't belong here.

>>523544007
Mods often get confused and delete images with boy nipples, it's just precautionary.

>>523543998
It would still be better than them rendering at lower than native resolution.

>>523542003
Can male avatar users do the female swimwear challenge

>>523544007
sending everything which offends prudes to trash is what keeps ruining this thread. We're all adults here.

>>523544752
real and true oomfie

>>523542003
Male Swimwear, count me in!

This world was pretty cool. It was a kind of DJ/event map but it had some advertised boothslop in it too. Stands out because it was well made.

>>523545264
WELCOME TO MY NEW CLUB
UNIT 731

... what do you mean that name is taken?

>>523545252
revolting

VRChat Challenge event where you have to make the best avatars under certain restrictions (ex.5000 tris or less)

>>523545465
You havent seen half of it yet anon...
>>523545514
Had a quest event way back, where the goal was to make your avatar quest compatible, below 5k tris and 1 material, was really fun.

>>523542003
well i will gladly admit that this my fetish but im not sure that this one is appropriate for vee arr gee tbdesu senapi

THE MAN EVENT

BE A MAN

NO PISS BABY BOYS
NO FEMBOYS
NO WOMEN
AND ESPECIALLY NO GIRLS

THERE WILL BE GUNS, TRUCKS, CARS, MOON LANDINGS, WAR, ALCOHOL, MATHEMATICS, RELIGION, SOCIETY, SCIENCE, ENGINEERING, PHILOSOPHY, TECHNOLOGY AND OTHER SHIT MAN HAS CREATED.

ARBITRARILY DECIDED TO HAPPEN ON 21ST OF JUNE AT 9PM EST

BE THERE OR BE SQUARE

>>523545252
>>523545652
>Heeyy yough whnana go phrivate shexy???

>>523542003
>actually got deleted
lmao, crazy how shit that flies in every other thread on this board gets deleted here.
literally everything in the picture was censored

>>523546398
No fun allowed

>>523546110
but I like being an anime girl

>>523546578
sad to see this thread is still under the tyrannical rule of some faggot doing it for free and deleting any kind of funposting

Assetto Corsa Server starting up!

server name:VRG EU Racing Club
password: 6969

For communication we'll use mumble at voice.vrg.party port 64738, as it doesn't need any registrations or logins.
https://www.mumble.info/

I can't recomend enough Crew Chief
https://thecrewchief.org/
He's a helpfull AI fellow in the pits who'll provide you information about your car, your opponents, yell at you or try to encourage you. And most importantly, he will spot for you, in case you have a car in you blind spot.

UI radar are immersion breaking and basically cheating, but this guy will tell you verbally if someone is there on your right. Download, install, select Asseto Corsa in game list, press "Start application" and it should work!


MODS: https://mega.nz/folder/i3BiyJJK#NwYVwCAEAiV4Psipy4y9Dg

Reposting:

THE MALE SWIMWEAR CHALLENGE EVENT

ARBITRARILY DECIDED TO BE ON THE 21ST OF JUNE AT 10PM EST THERE WILL BE STANDING AND DRINKING AND OTHER LOW EFFORT ACTIVITIES LIKE A PICTOR MAYBE

>>523547021
kek

shut the fuck up retard

>>523547021
inshallah

>>523547021
inshallah see you on the metaverse allah willing

Real VR Fishing NOW! Join EU lobby
Gone fishing
pass 1488

>>523542003
>deleted
guess i gotta do a better job censoring next time!
>>523544625
no, a good example of what not to do can be found here (for a multitude of reasons) >>523545252
>>523545798
what do you mean, it was clearly SFW
>>523546398
>>523546578
>>523546784
fun will continue at my expense until i get bored.

>>523547021
ty for carrying the torch, anon

>topless beach trash event in /vrg/ with a nsfw picture attached
>Suprised it get's deleted
Back to trash with you rando

>>523548802
you know you like it anyon~!

>>523547913
umm wrong board?
Why are you hosting an exhibitionist event in here?

https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/bigscreen-beyond-hmd-unable-to-be-initialized-on-nvidia-possibly-due-to-dsc-bpp-issue/294108/44

LINUX BSB BROS WE'RE SO BACK

>>523549267
finally. I had that thread in my rss reader for the past 6 months waiting for a fix.

>>523549267
>upcoming release
just 2 more weeks

>>523549257
that's like the whole point, we already have gooner exhibitionists taking pictures in all of our normal events

>>523544752
I think the people whining about trash are usually complaining about stuff that doesn't matter, but a topless event doesn't really belong here.

>>523551009
Look, Punjaab Srwihara is working very dutifully to bugtest the latest Claude commits made to the NVidia Linux driver

>making vrc world based off of my room
>objects aren't lining up how I expect
>bust out the tape measure and check room dimensions
>room is 1 foot smaller in each dimension than what's listed on the official floor plan

maybe kanye was right about these people

>>523537028
Chess https://vrch.at/wqcak99j

By the way I forgot, boredom tea will be tomorrow at 18:15CEST
> What?
An instance where people are encouraged to join for a cup of tea and eventual snacks if they fancy it. The instance will be closed after 30-45min
Likely in a simple room with a table and a video player
> Why?
To share relaxing time before bigger instances and after work. With a focus on things having to stay calm and simple. Making it time limited to ensure it is meant to be an in-between time rather than something big. For that reason it will be posted in the thread but as invite+

>>523549267
Nvidia bros stay winning!
>1 year wait

>>523553391
hey its just in time for bsb2e (assuming the driver gets released and their fix actually works)!

>play itr 2 for the first time since before they added armour
>fragments look fucking good
>heaps of new weapons
>cleaning kino back in
>fully custom rigs and pouches
>that atmosphere
>found weapons that you can't buy
It's good to be back.

>>523552018
>tfw rentoid

>>523555438
>implying jews wouldn't do the same with the square-footage on a house too

>>523516098
>For example post about your recent VR related dreams!
funny I recently had one where I thought it was VR so I could do anything and I rubbed by boner up against a pretty asian girl in an elevator

I tried to learn lucid dreaming for months and still only had a few seconds at a time so that's why I have to settle for VR desu. I am butthurt my brain isn't made for lucid dreaming even with galantamine

>>523534972
does the lighthouse version have passthrough camera?
bit confusing having two versions on same page

>only $900 with eyetracking
oh no no no bigscreen sisters we are finished

>>523557284
>prototype vs something thats shipping very soon
not to mention pimax has negative rep

>>523557284
$300 is a massive price disparity for two corporations who are only competing on hardware. Way too good to be true.

Anyone already made plans for watching eurovision yet?

>>523555260
4 player coop some day

>>523520897
>>523522403
I'm perma green everywhere I go but nobody ever joins off me desu. Don't even have non-vrg friends either

>>523558746
Increase your rizz

>>523537028
mahjong https://vrch.at/vndhdr4x

>>523546625
Be an anime girl dressed as a man and an obviously fake mustache.

>>523558168
methinks pimax REALLY wants to get their devices out there and drawing customers away from both Bigscreen and Shiftall since they're offering an alternative to both

>>523558996
were it so easy

>>523546839
thanks for hosting!

>>523562689

Try the real VR fishing since I saw you guys posting a meat about it. Actually pretty neat. The pre-rendered environment is a nice trick in VR.

>>523563186
It's comf. Basic bitch progression and huge range of fish collectathon that'll take you months to complete. Fish and chat for an hour or so.
It's what I'd want vrc to be.

>>523563108
the start

battlin

>>523563507
Last one. Putting the stinky LMPs where they belong (on the sideline)

>>523546839
>>523563507
>>523563649
Thanks for joining and for the webms! That was definitely an epic event. See you next time for soulful Caterham racing!

>>523564395
WHERE IS THE PIT STOP

>>523552018
Most likely Chinese landlords to be honest. It’s a cultural thing to include building common areas in each unit sold.

>>523567828
at the boats sign

I know there's jet fighter enjoyers but is there any commercial airline enjoyers?

>>523517697
kawaii new EU friend!!!!!

>>523567828
it was destroyed in a fire

>>523571072
just find me a tall building

>>523571929
tallest in the game is an ATC tower
>>523571620
Thank you!!

>>523571072
BahumotoD should really look into making a spinoff of VTOL VR with civilian aircraft. Kids and autists alike fucking love those ATC RP servers already in VTOL VR and if you target it towards Quest you'd probably do great.

I personally would really love a VR representation of a C-172 so I could do flight practice at home- and with VTOL VR's interactive cockpit system you can do that on a $300 headset sitting on any chair in your house vs having to buy specific controllers to replicate the aircraft's controls that in practice cost more!

>>523572091
yeah someone recommended me VTOL VR and i declined because there's no civilian aircraft. I wouldn't mind if there was Military made versions of the A330 and 737 since I typically get those flying over me from the RAF. MSFS is hell with VR since i last tried it but let's see what happens in the future. Never grasped the ATC concept. because of the way I slur words sometimes while reading back and im a lil slow to pick up on xd

>>523563186
I hope you went with the Quest version and not Steam or Pico because those are literal abandonware that don't get updated ever.

>>523572091
he should make a tank game with his systems desu

>>523572729
Oh yeah. Back when I actually hosted VTOL (rip) we did a mission where we drove the AV-42s around and acted like ground vehicles, and shit was SCARY. Generally in air combat you can see and avoid what's going to kill you and at least stay away from it, no such thing for a tank under artillery or ATGM/gunfire!

Leaning into the near future aspects there's a lot you could do with APS charges/some sort of automated C-UAS gun/radar/laser/IR launch alerting systems that'd make it really cool.

>>523573363
smoke launchers, TV-guided missiles, autocannons, god I wish I wasn't an ideas guy

>>523573363
>>523573563
imagine vtol, but coop tank or ifv, as vtol dlc

>>523573563
I've been want to do an IFV in vrc as a test for awhile. I was thinking of starting with the BRDM because its very simple in terms of vehicle and its an old soviet tech.

pssst

Tuesday's movie is The Blues Brothers
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080455/

Jake Blues rejoins his brother Elwood after being released from prison, but the duo has just days to reunite their old R&B band and save the Catholic home where the two were raised, outrunning the police as they tear through Chicago.

starting at 19:00 UTC as usual !

>>523579471
ooh neat movie
its been a long time since ive seen it

>>523546839
What do you guys think about this longer race? Is it better or worse than standard ~15 minutes races? Should we stay on 15 minutes or go for 30?

>>523509382
Bretty neat. I've kinda wondered down the line eventually if we'll see an era of proliferating brands similar to how Beckenzi/Extension and others like them have increasingly gained recognition by name and style that eventually evolve more and more into what Yoyogi is trying to be for example. I suppose the market is still fairly small as is the supply of high quality outfits.

>>523547021
lmao based

>>523548802
>nsfw
It was clearly censored

>>523556690
lucid dreaming is wack. Not sure how to activate it. VR is just better desu

>>523580317
>I suppose the market is still fairly small as is the supply of high quality outfits
It's pretty big in japan and it is impressive they are actually having real life VRChat convetions as well that are not officially endorsed.
Similar to Touhou reitaisai

Anyone feeling a little bit..
Racist?

Reach out to ID ingame or on a cringe messaging platform if you would like to carry the banner for your team.

I'll see you on the battlefield.

>>523586702
>no furries
based

>>523586702
woooooo!

>>523586702
I can't wait to wear my human shirt again.

things did not go as planned

Monday Workout is commencing!
A convenient calisthenics routine that is moderately paced with stretches afterwards.
Join on ElfMom or use the link below:

https://vrch.at/3xm07cp3

>>523577029
That'd be comfy. There's full interior models floating around for a lot of things if you can find them. I had an idea for a cozy camper sort of map in the back of a Stryker IFV, I love small spaces like that.

It's too damn hot for Pypy but here it is please follow the link and come dance
https://vrch.at/882wp02y

>>523590279
Pypy in the tropics

>>523579909
Either way is fine, but a longer race would be nice sometimes.

>>523545252
yuck person yuck model

>>523586702
Maybe I won't be dying of covid this time

>>523564395
we need more of 30min+ races

>>523589173
ya forgot to make it a humanoid rig silly
>>523586702
this event just makes me miss the wholesomeness that was the sports festival

>>523586702
Sieg Homo Sapiens

>>523591224
>sports festival
It’s the same format and made by the same guys. Sports festival is more anime while Racewar is more wild games.

https://youtu.be/i1aPskTFDos
>14:05
" I can easily say this looks better than Primax Crystal Super."
Shilltuber BS aside, imagine getting your Super and hearing this. I guess you can take solace in FOV

how do high res headsets even work when displayport is maxed out already? are they a meme?

even bigscreen beyond looks shittier with compression at 90hz
https://www.bigscreenvr.com/displays

>>523592978
>same guys
It isn't an SOS event. Don't just assume every event is a Yuki one.

>>523593881
yes, DSC uses dynamic compression, at 75hz it looks fine, but 90hz looks like shit
not something shills will tell you

>>523593972
erm actually ID made every event and OWNS vrg sorry you just found out now

>>523593972
I mean SOS did help but I don't think yuki tried to slap his branding on it that I can remember

>>523591224
>ya forgot to make it a humanoid rig silly
I have no idea what I am doing

>>523594608
be silent brother.
they are not yet ready to know the truth.

>>523594892
i had the idea and made the map and games but yuki helped a hell of a lot with making it functional and look good, and also helped me not be lazy and finish it
as well as there are systems in the event that were developed by SOS people from other events like the scoring/cameras/effects/screens and other gadgets that made it awesome
theres a little SOS credits thing in the map to credit the people who made the systems which I'm perfectly fine with giving credit where credits due on that

>>523593104
i think its pretty easy to imagine uOLED looking better than LCD at this point

EOZ gloves are coming along well, they're posting updates on their discord (at work can't convert the WEBM but he's jiggling them around as they track in VR). They've got a guy on the ground with the factory setting up the first prototypes and their firmware. I'm excited, these will be hopefully very comfy for social VR.

>>523598237
Tundra tracker for the ground truth and then IMUs on each joint. They're also partnering with Diver-Z for the Magnetra2 flip-in controller as an option.

>>523598601
*diver-x

>>523590279
thanks for coming see you tomorrow

>>523593881
>even bigscreen beyond looks shittier with compression at 90hz
That's a Bigscreen specific issue because they're just sending a lower resolution image at 90Hz and upscaling it on the headset.
Other high resolution headsets don't do that, even Pimax didn't manage to get themselves in a situation where they had to resort to that.

>>523594892
>>523593972
I tend to only place SOS logo branding these days if I started the idea (50% of the time as a compromise with a vocal thread schizo).

Trying to help develop more newer blood event creators.
So the moment ID asked for help on how to even start making a map I knew what I must do. Such initiative needs to be rewarded and nurtured.

But helping out and making an event successful from built-up tech over the years and organizing anons from contacts of various skill sets and delegating and sometimes teachings tasks to them into a fully formed event is tough and more importantly time-consuming work. Time which I am quickly running out of to spare.

Now that the systems are in place, the project is setup, the base map is up and running and the social glues between the talents are breathing.
This next race war I can't offer neither mentorship nor organizational help. Just the built-up SOS systems over the years by me and our friends here of /vrg/ who offered to make each successive prefabs better and stronger.
All I've ever asked for is to be appreciated. A lot of these work stems from that desire. A lot of the branding is that as well.
After all if people don't appreciate the work I put in, then I'll do the crediting myself. Each of the prefabs are properly named credited to those who contributed in building it.

tl;dr Appreciate your fellow anons
Thanks for reading my blog. I just felt like spilling it out here

>>523595374
<3 Good luck and enjoy the creative journey. You've got this. I have complete confidence that you and the racewar team can deliver another banger event this year for /vrg/.

>>523600350
how do the others do it then

>>523601329
different display controllers probably

>>523598601
>IMUs
it has never been more over

>>523600350
>they're just sending a lower resolution image at 90Hz and upscaling it on the headset.
Source on that?
It's just DSC. There is no point downscaling/upscaling if you are already compressing.

>>523601484
They can apparently correct for drift as the IMUs are close enough to use magnometers and report no need for constant calibration. Wait and see if that's true ofc but I don't see any reason to panic.

>>523602224
they have a whole section on the displays page that describes it
https://store.bigscreenvr.com/pages/displays

>>523602339
and before that one guy posts the bottom picture without context like usual

>MRTV laughing at beyond facial interface and saying dream air prototype already feels better
bigscreen bros I don't feel so good...

>>523602325
thanks to this calibration is just something you need to do every other week, and it even keeps between power cycles.

>>523602339
Bigscreen intentionally tried to be misleading as fuck about the DSC thing for a while and acting like it was the same as any other headset pre-release, even in your screenshot they say it uses DSC to compress the signal to 1920x1920, which just isn't true because DSC isn't literal upscaling.

Was annoying as fuck how prevalent that idea was pre-release and still you get people even now not understanding what's happening.

>>523602339
>lossless compression techniques like DSC
Fucking lying pajeet bastards.
Absolutely fucking shameless. "visually lossless* (*for certain scenes, for some people)" is not what general public considers true lossless like flac and png.
Bigshit really is trash. All the shills of that garbage need to be castrated.

>>523602787
>"visually lossless* (*for certain scenes, for some people)" is not what general public considers true lossless like flac and png.
was this supposed to be a revelation of some sort?

>>523602838
There is no word "visually" anywhere near in that text, you avatarfagging retard.
They are straight up lying.

>>523602917
you literally inserted it yourself and then compared it against true lossless formats for some reason
I didn't put that word in your mouth, mate

>>523602965
>the text says "lossless"
>it's not actually lossless
You will be the first to be castrated.

>>523602438
I wish they included the text in the side by side
>lossless but here are examples of it making lines smear together
kek

>>523603051
>>"visually lossless* (*for certain scenes, for some people)" is not what general public considers true lossless like flac and png.
did you forget what you typed again? already?

Showing Harmony tonight at 10PM ET (in ~21h) for NA anime movie night, I'll post details to join off of when the instance is up.

>>523603107
Are you unironically retarded or just grasping at straws?

>>523603218
i'm not even tlaking about their article, I'm pointing out your apparent revelation that two things that aren't the same turned out not being the same
its riveting stuff, really
maybe if you go into their shitcord or emailt heir support to clarify the article they'll update it and add a word in for you?

NTA but calling it lossless is misleading when it's clearly not lossless

imagine being a braindead cocksucking fanatic who defends a scammy company which straight up lies to their customers

>>523603441
sounds like you could make money with a false advertisement class action lawsuit

>>523603481
>>523603486
go get some free money, bro! it's right there for the taking
you could make millions or something i bet!

does DSC let you compress 2560x2560 to 2560x2560 directly? why would they not do that?

bigshitfags be like:
>wireless? nah, I'm very sensitive and can't stomach any sort of compression, so I prefer wire.
>why, yes, I use 90hz. I don't notice any compression.

>>523603680
Because DSC sucks, it's lossy compression.
You can get away with it when you just slightly out of bandwidth, but if you increase the compression ratio it turns to shit very fast.

>>523603218
DSC on it's own is fine although not technically mathematically lossless, the real problem is acting like sending lower resolution video and upscaling that on the headset side is a normal part of DSC and something everyone else does.
>>523603441
Describing DSC as lossless is honestly probably the least misleading thing about the way they try to describe their 90Hz mode.

>>523603863
>DSC on it's own is fine
It's not.

literally every modern gaming monitor is stuck doing this because Nvidia lagged behind so hard on DP 2.1
https://vesa.org/vesa-display-compression-codecs/
we've been toeing a fine line since we were stuck with DP 1.4 for so fucking long but at least in the near future we might finally start seeing DP 2.1 VR HMDs

then how does apple vision pro look good when it's wireless

>>523603928
cope
1080p/2440p don't need it.

>>523603723
>visually lossless over a cable
versus
>literal lossy compression over a network

yeah that's a tough one...

>>523604084
all of the 1440p OLED monitors that rock high refresh rates are definitely using DSC
DP 1.4 has literally been holding back the industry for years and they're finally breaking free (for now)

>>523604094
visually lossless claim is bullshit, bigshitfag

>>523604140
nah, 1.4 can do proper full chroma 4:4:4 8bit 1440p 240hz just fine.
there were no panels on the market which required more when nvidia didn't have means to output proper raw image.

>>523604069
>go to do face scan to get sizing for AVP
>shitty phone web applet doesn't work and never actually gives measurements
I guess I'll never find out now...

>>523604276
>visually lossless claim is bullshit, bigshitfag
oh you're doing a backflip and saying that visually lossless, the term literally used in all DSC descriptions and articles, is no longer accurate?
better go tell all those monitor manufacturers that they're about to get sued big time by this guy over here who is about to make BILLIONS on this huge find
>4:4:4 8bit 1440p 240hz
jesus what year is it

VisPro is not worth buying right now. Wait for VisPro2/Air. It's going to have Wifi 7, M5 chip and psvr2 controllers.

>>523604405
will they fix their shitty web phone app shitware?

>>523604378
>is no longer accurate?
It was never accurate, retard.
It's a marketing term with asterisks.
* under certain conditions
** for certain scenes
*** for certain people
Basically bullshit. And you are defending it like a cuck.

>>4:4:4 8bit 1440p 240hz
>jesus what year is it
2025, bigshit nigger. There is no GPU on the market which can max that spec with modern games. Even 5090 is not enough.
>b-but I play valorant or some other dogshit for normalfags
kill yourself

>>523604708
>Basically bullshit. And you are defending it like a cuck.
bro you're about to make TRILLIONS by suing the entire Vesa consortium and their cronies
please give us peons a bit of spare change after you've changed the world with this shocking news and blatant uncovering of such a massive worldwide conspiracy that is set to rock multiple nations to their very core
>2025
ok just sanity checking to make sure you weren't stuck in some other timeline where everything stopped progressing technologically

go make us proud, king

>>523604848
You can't sue them, idiot. They can just say "you should have read the fine print!".
And here you are, defending that scammy jewish shit after overdosing on corporate cocks.
Disgusting.

>>523605084
so you aren't going to go out there and refute their claims to win literally QUADRILLIONS of dollars?
you could be set for life by undermining their entire bold-faced lie that they've been pushing to the public
you could unseat the stranglehold that the coniving big noses behind ISO have on the entire technological industry and cause an upheavel in the consumer space that has yet to be seen
(You) could literally be the spark of change that (You) want to see
will you do it?

It isn't implausible that compression is visually lossless, modern video compression algorithms are insanely good. You can get like 10 mintues of 720p into a 5MB webm which has got to be fucking black magic.

Rendering at 4k then downscaling to 1080p, then upscaling to 2560p sounds absolutely retarded and would be visible even without compression.

really weird ego flex getting this upset someone else pointed out false marketing

anyway, bigscreen is looking worse and worse. I almost fell for the hype, but pimax is looking like the best choice. chinese excellence really. and funny how bigscreen tried to look like wholesome chungus not raising prices. of course they can do that when their government targets their competitors who have better products at lower prices

>>523605248
Can you read, retard? I already explained it to why it's not possible to sue them.
They are still scamming people nevertheless.

But either way, I could care less about normalfags, they should have read the fine print. Jews might be right on that one.
The real problem here are disgusting fags like you, who come to a technological discussion and try to push marketing terms for normalfags like it's gospel.
It only right for everyone to tell rats like that to kill themselves.

bro isn't gonna get free money from actual Jews...
honestly? weak.

>>523605526
>>who come to a technological discussion and try to push marketing terms for normalfags like it's gospel
>blame Nvidia for stagnating technological landscape since they refused to add DP 2.1 early like AMD
>this would have saved us sheeple from the DSC plague
I think you're retarded considering I was angry about the need for it as a result of Nvidia's large-nosed behavior

>>523605459
They are very computationally constrained. You need to process a lot of data and you don't have a lot of time.
It's doable, but will be too expensive.

>>523605526
>I couldn't care less*

>>523589173
making avatars is really hard!

>>523591224
>ya forgot to make it a humanoid rig silly
I had to look up how to do this this thanks for the pointer anon. I don't know what happened here... maybe weight painting screwed up? something weird happened when I tried to merge the skeletons together and I don't think I fixed it correctly

>alpha settings on hair materials are screwed up
>the metallic material looks really good in blender but awful in unity, how to improve it?
>optimization to be done after the other stuff
textures will be easy to optimize, reducing material slots and merging models together without weird things happening much harder
the clothing looks really awful with decimate on it but I don't see any other way to escape [Very Poor]

>>523605523
>pimax is looking like the best choice
as a Pimax HMD owner I pray for your good fortune

>>523605679
>>this would have saved us sheeple from the DSC plague
Not really. It's bigshit issue mostly.
We didn't have panels on the market. Nvidia unironically added it when it was actually needed.

Kill yourself, bigshitfag.

>>523605748
>webm
Cute scarecrow

>>523605754
what's wrong with it

>>523605783
literally every high end gaming monitor relies on DSC
the absolute newest ones on DP 2.1 don't need it, but they've only more recently been coming out after Nvidia FINALLY put it on their nonexistant 50 series cards
the same manufacturers with the same panels were having to use DSC on their revisions prior because guess who holds all the market share and kept things on DP1.4 for 2 more years just for fun?

>>523605868
>what's wrong with it
there's a lot to unpack with that kind of question I'm going to have to ask you to slow down

>>523605881
>literally every high end gaming monitor relies on DSC
Wrong.
Straight up lies. I already showed the math. You don't need DSC for reasonable resolutions/refresh rates.
And no panels were on the market.

Proper HDMI was added in Ampere gen, so it's not a problem for 5+ years.

>>523606028
>You don't need DSC for reasonable resolutions/refresh rates.
since when did I say the latest high-end gaming monitors were (((reasonable)))?
the panels existed
every review mentioned DSC
then the new revisions with DP 2.1 came out and they said wow we don't need it anymore!

bro hates on an anon defending a company for jewish practices and then turns around and does the exact same thing?

>>523606139
Stop talking about yourself in 3rd person, fag
Proper panels didn't exist. I know what I'm talking about.
If you go for max refreshrate, you go with 1080p anyway. 1.4dp can do 1080p/360hz and 1440p/240hz just fine.
Panels which forced DSC when no other option was available didn't exist.

Stop being a disingenuous piece of shit. There are some valid reasons to hate on companies and there is bullshit.
By pushing the bullshit, you only make valid complains weaker.

>>523605748
改変失敗www

Daily reminder that bigshit begone 2 is still only 1.4.

>>523608662
>fiber optic cable
Virtually unlimited bandwidth btw. Bigshit pajeets are just cutting corners.

>>523608662
yes because theyre using the same panels, so adding DP2.1 is just a waste of time, wouldnt change anything

>>523609343
>so adding DP2.1 is just a waste of time, wouldnt change anything
Except it's not, you moron.
They wouldn't have downscale to 1920x1920 then upscale again.

>>523609505
yes they would, retard.
the reason they have to downscale is not because of fucking displayport but the actual connectors on the uOLED panels, thats the limiting factor

>>523609585
But works just fine for 75hz for some reason. No downscaling needed.
Brainddead cretin.

>>523609585
>but the actual connectors on the uOLED panels, thats the limiting factor
You literally made this shit up just now. See pic in >>523602339

>>523609654
WOAH THE LOWER REFRESH RATE OPTION NEEDS LESS BANDWIDTH SO WE DONT NEED TO FUCKING DOWNSCALE THE RESOLUTION.
WHO
WOULD
HAVE
FUCKING THOUGHT

>>523609737
The point is that it has nothing do with "actual connectors on the uOLED panels", moron.

>>523598601
Literally been saying they should make an exoskeleton with flip in controllers for years now..
Finally...
Just don't put a stupid glove over the thing and it would be perfect.
Also VRChat changing their horrible finger tracking UI would help too lol.

how come yify make movies look perfect with 700 MB yet 25 Gbit/s is le bad for VR?

>>523609719
>>523609810
>due to bandwidth limitations of Displayport 1.4, DISPLAY CONTROLLERS AND MIPI
ah yes so changing to DP 2.1 would magically make the display controllers and MIPI interface have more bandwidth, yes because thats how that works.

>>523609901
hey, bro, where are you taking that goalpost?!
wait a second, before you go, take this L with you too.

>>523605748
You have to remake the materials in unity with different shaders. Standard shader isn't really cut out for anime girls. As for the merging of skeletons it's clearly not weighted to your body at all. Check the vertex groups match (names of the bones) between the two armatures and that it is actually parented to your main skeleton. If all of the bone's names match and you have applied all of your transforms, you can just select the clothes then the body and press ctrl+J to make it work. Deleting your body mesh under your clothes is a good way to cut down on verts.

>>523609816
From what it sounds like the glove won't be integral and you could take it off easily, either to use with another glove or without one at all.

i have given up on getting cyberpunk vr to look good with my 7900gre, luke ross mods are fucking useless with amd. reinstalled my old 3060 12gb will give it another shot

>>523610032
MIPI interface is "the connectors to the display", kill yourself

>>523611867
They upscale to the full res on chip before sending it to the display, you absolute fucking retard. MIPI is not the issue.
Read the pic I linked and stop fucking talking out of your prolapsed anus.

>>523611762
I just don't see the need for one. wearing gloves for hours and hours gets uncomfortable and sweaty. If it were just an exoskeleton it would be much more comfortable and breathable, aswell as being removing a big pain point of alot of gloves. All VR gloves I've seen without exception are really low quality cheaply made when it comes to the actual cloth glove itself.
Would be really great to finally see a proper exoskeleton glove.

>>523605748
You really should not be using decimate, manually deleting and moving edge loops looks so much better that its basically impossible to justify using decimate. It can take several hours to do but the difference in final quality is so high there isn't really a choice.

>>523605748
in general you shouldn't care about the [very poor] tag

use Modular Avatars to automatic rig your bone setup and ignore doing it on blender, it does everything you could do already but faster and easier, and use D4rkz optimizer to cull zero weight bones instead of cats

>>523610798
the bones are parented properly but I think the weights got completely lost. I have to relearn blender every time I try to do anything with it, so it will simply take time and effort to get right.

>Standard shader isn't really cut out for anime girls
I will have to experiment. I don't like how powerful the specular on the jacket ends up when I have it turned really low in blender. My old avatar looks OK using the default shader somehow but I don't know what tricks it uses. This is my first time ever using unity and clumsily trying to put things together...

>Deleting your body mesh under your clothes is a good way to cut down on verts.
I did a little bit of that already, but there is room for more
>>523612592
you are right anon. I'm more used to working on much lower poly models using simpler tools so I have much to learn
>if I replace the panties with lower poly shorts and feet with socks, it could save a lot of triangle
>the jacket itself is about 80k tris, could be optimized a bit like deleting the internal geometry on the sleeves
>I already gave up entirely on the shoes because they had way too many triangle I hope people won't think I am footfag
>textures are still 4k. 256*256 textures looked too horrible. Need to find the right middle ground.
>expressions/animations??
>small texture edits like adding accent highlights to the hair might be fun but that's ezpz to do with photoshop
>alpha map completely didn't work on import
surely unity supports alpha maps, so maybe it just requires additional configuration

working properly first, optimization second, getting it perfect third

>>523613342
Terrible take. Having to set avatar hider or not being able to see the work people put into avatars completely obsoletes even doing it in the first place. You can do it. I believe in you. 70k poly is enough.

>>523613679
i have one of the worst computers in vrg, im telling you that 70k tris vs 200k tris barely has an impact on performance and 90% of my issues are vram related
the very poor tag is not useful as a filter because it's far too strict on things it doesnt need to be strict about (such as tris, which btw have the same rating for good as poor), whereas the qualifier for poor is a whopping 150mb which is ridiculous, no avatar should be above 100mb period

because of this, 99% of people do not bother to optimize themselves which means hiding people based off performance ranking is a losing game.

listing number of polys on booth pages should be standard

>>523613859
This. I mainly hide(impostor fallback) people automatically by download size and texture size rather than the performance metric.

>>523613859
I complain about the tiers all the time. The main offender is the polygon count, it's so fucked. It was set back when shapekeys mattered and a shapekey on a 70k mesh would actually be a performance nightmare. Not the case any more for multiple reasons. One is that the bug was fixed, two is that meshes aren't one big joined mesh any more so shapekeys on smaller meshes is standard now. The stats are from the days when people threw together MMDs on unity 2018 and they are not useful for modern avatars.

>>523613942
Hmm yes today I shall put crunch compression on, causing a massive hitch when my avatar loads to uncompress the textures, then up my texture resolution because the compression makes it look bad. Optimization!

>>523613948
IIRC the polycount limit was determined based on some old old VR performance guidelines from facebook.

>>523613859
>for poor is a whopping 150mb which is ridiculous, no avatar should be above 100mb period
qualifier for poor in terms of vram*
>>523613942
this is the way to go. as a newfag you should basically not be concerned with decimating unless you're trying to be a Good rank as a goal (pointless, nobody filters by perf rankings), your #1 goal should be download size and texture memory, which are both super easy to optimize with some basic unity plugins
bones and mat slots matter too but not nearly as much

>>523613679
>>523613859
agree with both
modern hardware has the horsepower to draw a zillion triangles no problem, but still 300k is too many when there might be 80 avatars in the scene. Even 100 MB VRAM is a crazy amount if you multiply by 80. The face and base have a symmetrical texture but the UV layout has both sides unique. Could be packed a lot more efficiently such that lower resolution textures can look better.

>>523614195
urm anon you also want to reduce your animation controller size too, and physbones still.
CPU usage is killer.
Polygon count doesn't matter a great deal unless there are shapekeys running on large numbers of verts.

>>523613859
>70k tris vs 200k tris
You mean 5600000 vs 16000000.
Anyway yes we all know the system is shit however you should be under the very poor mark on every other stat so doing the extra leg work to get under 70k poly shouldn't be such a daunting task. It is that very attitude of "doesn't matter" that leads to the need for avatar hiding. If you just made a medium avatar you use in normal meetups with one outfit and no toggles we wouldn't have this problem. Imagine a world where you could have frames and see everyone and have all your friends in the same instance. We had it at the fumo meetup. It is possible.

>>523614290
One reason the fumo avatars were so performant is because they didn't have a million toggles and animator controller layers and objects and all that other crap that eats CPU.

>>523613996
download size includes all gimmicks including audio
but texture size is uncompressed texture

>>523614350
Nah, it's materials and pipeline switches. I bet every single fumo used the shame shader. What it was? Basic solid color?

>>523614545
Mine used liltoon.
Shader switches is something I hadn't considered before that much; it makes sense that it's quite heavy. I mean nowadays even if everyone decided to use the exact same version of the exact same 2-3 shaders, you'd probably get hundreds out because they all compile down differently.

what data can an avatar see outside of itself?
can a script on an avatar see who else is in a world and their position?
can you have elements on your avatar only visible to the wearer?

>>523614609
Allowing retards make their own shaders was a mistake.
A proper curated list is all you need. There is only so much you can possible want.
VRC is paying for low effort gimmicks with a massive performance hit.

>>523614654
if you want to reverse engineer furry magic then yes you can do the second one

>>523614654
There is a built in "isLocal" parameter that will only be true for the wearer of the avatar.

hows slime rancher in uevr?

>>523603054
Thats not dsc issue you idiot. Beyound uses dsc in all modes, but downscales image sent over wire at 90 Hz. It is something about their panel controllers.

Vive Pro 2 also uses DSC and can reach 2500x2000@120Hz whole being extremely sharp. DSC compression is very slight, works per line basis, doesn't have any delays and has minimal, imperceptible difference to raw stream.

>>523603834
DSC is not h264 its really minimal and really is imperceptible.

>>523612008
Those displays ARE the chip

>>523614782
Fuck off schizo

>>523614782
Shader devs are wizards. You shutbyour whore mouth for you do not know what you speak of

>>523617618
He never even launched vrchat and thinks all the performance issue is caused by like 300 context switches per scene

>>523617734
>He never even launched vrchat
wtf, based?!

>>523597682
So what's all on the to-do list for this industry
>Bigger uOLEDs for more FOV
>DSC becoming a thing of the past

>This is how you fix vrchat.
>-But, Gigachad, do you even play vrchat?
>No.

>>523618598
DSC is becoming thing of the past and instead wifi h264 slop takes over.

Also, I don't expect any company to release a headset only compatible with displaybport 2.0+ in this market.

>>523618682
Giga schizo idiot.
The bane of most game studios is that their devs dont play games they make. Especially with some VR "game developers" who dont even use vr.

DOGFOOD YOUR CODE. PLAY THE GAME BEFORE CRITICIZING.

Wire is retarded.
Proper eyetracking allows virtually lossless (but unironically) picture quality with the current hardware.

>>523618835
It's always morally correct to criticize the game made by trannies and furries without actually playing it.
Anyone who actually uses anything produced by those creatures need to reconsider their live choices.

>>523618902
I wouldn't say it's THAT good, but it is basically the tech wireless needs to be usable. The eyes have a lot of downtime when they move around and that can be used to render high quality in the areas that actually matter to the cornea. I'd say it' basically important enough that if you buy a wireless headset without eye tracking you're wasting your money.

>>523618835
>NOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND A SIMPLE MESH VIEWER IS SUPPOSED TO RUN AT 22FPS AT THE BEST HARDWARE IN THE WORLD
>IT'S JUST HOW IT WORKS, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING
Honorary trans.

>>523618989
You're no better than twitter shitlibs if you cant seperate art from the artist.

>>523619072
>Simlle mesh viewer
As I said. You have NO idea

>>523618997
You have to do it regardless if you want to get anywhere near close to the retina resolution.
There is just no other way.

Our current software stack is extremely primitive.

Scrolled through like 168 posts that I could already recognize by eye was latencyshit discussion

So give me the quick rundown on what I missed. Who won this time? Leashcucks or compressionlets?

no one is winning these...

>>523619195
Render a triangle in vulkan with no frameworks first, then talk.
Just because you only ever used dogshit transsoftware doesn't mean everything is supposed to be like that.

Time to post old images of my friends

>>523619254
>Who won this time?
bigshitfags lost
by a lot

>>523619340
post your games anon

>>523619407
I already knew that when they pulled the thanks for beta testing shit.
How did they lose this time though?

>>523619536
the bigshitfag tried to defend DSC and upscaling/downscaling of framebuffer at 90hz

>>523619340
Etch a transistor on a silicon die first then talk .

>>523619731
but the hardware is fine though
we are having software issues now

>>523619768
You are trying to convince us that reinventing the wheel is good, while downplaying the featurset. Additionally you want to impose retarded limitations like forbidding custom shaders, while showing complete lack of knowledge of the thing your try to criticize.

ie a complete midwit with boosted ego over some insignificant homework excercise like drawing a simple mesh in vulkan.

>>523620035
>You are trying to convince us that reinventing the wheel is good
Reinventing the wheel... BAD!

Anyway, schizo, I don't know why you have such a rage boner for me. I unironically try to make your life better.
And before you say anything, I know it's you, you stink pretty badly. I recognized you after just 2 posts.

>>523620252
again anon, show us your games and projects

>>523620319
Last time I offered you a bet, you pissed your pants in fear.

>>523620431
I bet you won't show us your games and projects, or in fact, anything you've ever created

>>523620525
Okay, what are we betting?

>>523616592
its got its own mod
https://github.com/Atmudia/SRVR

>>523620252
>I unironically try to make your life better
By posting idiotic opinions in the thread?

>>523620547
that you'll keep deflecting. post something you've made anon, your unbound intellect has to have something

>dsc compression which usually leaves over 90% of pixels exactly the same as original image and rest with just slighly different values is le bad, wifi slop with h264 is way better!

mooom change the channel

>>523621302
who are you quoting?

WUUUUUAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH

>>523621391
Shut up, I like this show.

>>523621235
Are you going to apologize and bow down to the divine intellect?

>>523621637
>midwit with inflated ego
>Divine intellect
>Zero achievements
It was the biggest mistake to ever call terry, even as a joke

vrchat is niggerlicious
it's just what it is
they made it for transgenders and animalpeople
that's just aren't it, mate

>>523621701
haters coping

>>523621809
Calling you terry inly baselessly inflated yournego into delusional proportions

I only recently found out you can reload ANY weapon by putting it to your left shoulder, not just heavy weapons.
I honestly thought that was just a heavy weapon thing

I'm actually NG+ing arken age because it is actually just good
I don't think it will stand up to 3 or more playthroughs though

>>523621926
It shouldnt have been a thing at all really...

>>523622021
Nah I think it's good. Allows you to reload quickly which is more important at higher difficulties. More importantly it's fun.

>>523621897
you are starting to lose your ability to type properly again, schizo
vrchat sucks
it's a fact
but retards will keep using it
it's a fact too

>>523622085
Name a better vr creative outlet and socialisation app.

>>523622516
it's a massive waste of autism, I'm telling you
vr could be so much more than badly optimized second life 2.0.

>>523622621
As a platform that's primarily user-uploaded content, it's the users that decide what to do with it. If the world and avatar sandboxed creation tools aren't powerful enough your only real option is to make your own unity sandbox.

>>523622707
>it's the users that decide what to do with it.
Yeah, and users decided that they want more transgender and furry content.
Anyway, 1000 people in the same space is just never happening in vrchat, or any unity sandbox for that matter.
We need to design a system which can allow something like that. What we collectively doing right now is just masturbation.

>>523622881
I think meta horizons is more up your standarts.

>>523622621
VRchat is the defacto VR killer app. I have sunked so much time in it and blender and unity thanks to it.
I bought my trackers due to it and upgraded my headset for face tracking due to it.

I LOVE VRCHAT and making and experiencing amazing stuff in VRCHAT!

MRTV predicts Q1 2026 for dream air. Assuming the SE comes out around the same time, we're going to be halfway to the bsb3. And the Deckard will be out.

>>523622959
You are such a cocksucker, it's insane. Unironical crab in a bucket.
Go die in your beloved vrchat.

>>523622881
>We need to design
Lavender....

VRCHAT IS THE BEST
FOREVER
ANY NON-BELIEVER IS NOT WELCOME HERE

>>523623049
BSB3 will be releasing Q3 2026

>>523623145
Lavender actually showed us first hand how nontrivial project like vrchat actually is. And how this schizo babble about simple mesh viewer is completely idiotic.

>>523623190
How about bonerlabs and resonite?

>>523623087
Show me a better vr creative and socialisation app.

>>523623503
The fantasy one that exists in the imagination that is made in a custom engine and automatically kills furries and trannies as soon as they try and run it. 1000fps minimum inshallah

>>523623450
boners are a supplement to vrchat. you hang around vrc and get annoyed by bratty people, then you meet up in bonelab, restrain them, and keep bashing their heads against the wall until you feel better

>>523623450
Both are vastly inferior overall, but both have interesting things which vrchat lacks.

>>523623145
You will never beat that dogshit by trying to copy it. Unity needs to go.
It doesn't offer anything of value really.

The whole avatar creation "pipeline" what we currently have is absolute retarded and should be simplified massively.
By the end of the day, you are just moving vertices, it's not that complicated.
But most people still live in 80ies, conceptually speaking, and not in a good way. Everything literally soaking the flatshit thinking. VR is being wasted massively.

>>523623503
The better question would be "what would a proper vr creative/socializing app look like?".
It's an open question. We are the trailblazers, or at least suppose to be, but unfortunately it's looks like we are just gay and retarded.

>>523623632
What about the Unreal engine VR sandbox? Like Helios? (ded)

>>523623434
Lavender does not get talked about enough about how big of a scam project that all was.
Like I know we still bring it up every now and again
But holy shit from top to bottom everything was a scam. I felt like the dev had good intentions but you just can't see it as anything other than an actual scam now with how it shaped out and how much it cost.

>>523623632
>The whole avatar creation "pipeline" what we currently have is absolute retarded and should be simplified massively.

Here you go again with your schizo limits on creativity. You can make avatars in taffi avatar creator or ready player me if you want simple made Vrchat avatars. VRChat Unity SDK gives almost as much freedom as just making a unity asset.
>Freedom bad
Ok, schizo, as I said, Meta Horizons

>>523623757
How was it a scam?

>>523623589
Brothers and Sisters!

>>523623632
>By the end of the day, you are just moving vertices, it's not that complicated.

Midwit who has no fucking idea what he is talking about.

>>523623928
I want to do a vox tourney again

>>523623928
JA just pointing finger guns funny cunt.

>>523623450
Bonelab has shit performance

>>523624090
Please do!

>>523623752
You need to tailor your engine just for the task. We don't have hardware power to spare on inefficient kinda-fits-everyone shit.

>>523623813
Schizo hater, listen, too much freedom might unironically be bad. Creativity thrives in limitations. PS1/PS2 era of games is the best for a reason.

And unity "ecosystem" garbage is not real freedom. It's mostly a mindless song & dance, which serves no real purpose and was created around different constraints.
Going back to the reinventing the wheel, you can't keep using stone wheels forever, you need to reevaluate and redesign things once in a while. You adapt to the environment or you die. That's how life works.

>>523624001
And shizohater is projecting again. Why are you like that? Do you feel intimated by me? I just don't get it.

>>523624116
God I miss Jet Alone...

>>523624214
>intimated
intimidated*

>>523624214
>Ps1/ps2 era games was the best

>>523624460
Still is. It all went downhill from there.

>>523623904
The developer promised the world and kept bragging about how easy it was to make a VRChat clone and how far along his game was in comparison to VRChat already.
He had a patreon you could donate monthly to that he roped a ton of people in /vrg/ in to donating to because he swore his game was so much more advanced already compared to VRChat and so much more optimized.

The reviews pretty much say it all
https://store.steampowered.com/app/886710/Lavender/#app_reviews_hash

It wasn't even a functioning game when it first got released, you could barely even connect to other players, and it was a game you actually had to pay $20 for upfront as opposed to VRChat or its alternatives like CVR and Neos/Resonite that are free.

It's been abandoned with no updates and no players for years, yet has gone through promises of multiple engine changes and promises that the game is still being worked on and is going to be coming back, all for a playerbase that i don't think has gone above 0 on the steamcharts for the past 4 years.

The last 8 years of game industry are just remakes.
We need to go back.

Imagine the ps2 era developer mindset but with the current day hardware.

>>523624520
Wrong, the peak of gaming is today, in VR. Indie vr games, are the best we have, and ever had. Legacy games, unless trully exceptional are just boring.

Remember that the quest isn't powerful enough to make real games, just like how the PS1 and PS2 were terrible consoles with shitty slop garbage instead of any real games at all. It simply is NOT possible to make a real game with anything under the processing power of a modern PC.

>>523624631
The developer kept making the same mistake our local schizo is making right now. He did honestly try. Not every failed project is a scam.

>>523624792
>Wrong, the peak of gaming is today, in VR.
You don't actually play vr game or have absolutely abhorrent taste.
I can understand quest children saying something like that, they don't know any better, but if you think so as a grown man, my condolences.

>>523624907
>Not every failed project is a scam.
It is when you start charging money for it.

>>523624954
It seems like you just hate video games.

>>523625056
This shit reply again. Is that always you?

>>523624827
I know you're being facetious, but it's never been about the hardware. It's about the money. High-end graphics are advertising to the masses. If AAA still made games that looked like PS2/PS3 with split-up AAA teams, they'd never hear the end of it. You saw what happened with Craig from Halo Infinite.

>>523623227
Why?

>>523625241
All the youtubers are saying it's fixed all the problems with the BSB2

>>523625118
>High-end graphics are advertising to the masses
Facts. All processing power is wasted on graphics, because that's the only things retards care about.
It's the only reason alyx is considered a good game too, by idiots of course.

>>523625283
DCS at 90hz is suddenly acknowledged as a real issue, just like the terrible lenses of the 1st gen?
Wouldn't be surprised.

>>523625337
>Only graphics matter in alyx
>Ignores wonderfull character design and animation
>Ignores level design
>Ignores the sound design
>Ignores the polish and variability of the levels
>Ignores the fact its fun
What's with you and your midwit opinions? You really seem to hate video games

>>523625440
Its not DSC which is the issue its the downscaling

>>523625543
>>Ignores wonderfull character design and animation
lol
>>Ignores the fact its fun
lol
what part was the most fun for you? the same braindead puzzle for the 100th time? piss easy combat against retarded enemies? or maybe the dumpster diving to get resources to further trivialize the game?

alyx is a scene viewer, not a game.

>>523625732
Yeah, it's worse than Quest 2, or I guess Quest Pro is a more accurate comparison. I plan on sticking with 75 Hz, so it doesn't bother me. That panel is old as shit right now, so they're definitely gonna change it for the third version.

>>523624907
Failing the project isn't the scam, it's the part where he pretended it's not failing and still asked for money

>>523625824
So what is a game? Do you have any examples?

>>523625824
>Braindead ai
That ai has higher intellect than you.

>>523625995
The development was all in the open.

>>523625241
Just going by Bigscreen's current release cycle of re-releasing the same product every 1.5 years but fixing only a minimal amount of the glaring issues their headset design philosophy causes each time

>>523626003
You saying that is peak irony.

>>523625997
You don't need to go far, HL2VRmod is a much better half-life vr game. And it wasn't even designed around it.
What valve did with alyx is just travesty.

>>523626204
>HL2VRmod is a much better half-life vr game.
I mean yeah you're not wrong. They designed that game to make use of the physics engine and because of it the world is full of stuff to interact with. In alyx it's like woah you can throw a bottle around. Does it do anything? No. The gravity gun in VR is fantastic.

I wouldn't go far to say that alyx was bad, but it was mediocre. The worst thing about it was not the gameplay though, it was the VR design. Absolutely hobbled design that set the golden standard for VR games to be godawful dogshit. Yeah no wonder VR isn't taking off if that's the golden standard.

Meta Horizons is getting AI-slop worlds soon
does vrc have that?
didn't think so

>>523602526
not going through a 40 minute video can you link that part?

>>523626386
>I wouldn't go far to say that alyx was bad, but it was mediocre.
It was bad. With what valve needed to do and what they did, with all the resources they have, it's honestly just disgusting.
I agree completely with you that alyx is unironically one of the reasons vr didn't take off.

>>523626441
Actually it does I've seen a bunch of ai slop worlds

>>523626643
oh actually yea
i just wanted to join in the argument =^(
I've been to at least 2 aislop worlds in VRC and 1 was cool

>>523626145
I don't think bigscreen is some saint, but I know what I'm getting. Pimax is rushing to kill them and Shiftall in crib like they did with Varjo. Dream Air isn't close to done and they've already shown it off with ridiculous timelines. The BSB2 was 98℅ finished on reveal, and even sent to the shilltubers for impressions beforehand.

>>523627069
>The BSB2 was 98℅ finished on reveal
They haven't shown off anything related to their eyetracking whatsoever, and their $180 halo mount is nothing more than a render.
98% finished my ass.

>>523627332
Okay, you've got me there. I forgot about eye tracking. All we can do is wait.

>>523624631
Anyone who bought into this is a braindead vrg cultist. It was pushed by discord mods in a way that not supporting it made you "not vrg" + all the other random shit they said this would be.

>vrg
>discord mods

Lavender won.

So glad that we established it's a bad idea to develop your own VR platform

It's bad idea to try to create a "vrchat killer" while using unity
you will always be a cheap know-off for contrarians

you have to offer something unique only you can do
not just "vrc but with less trannies/furries" (read "users")

>>523628432
What about unreal engine?

>>523628432
You've been off making some sort of low-level software that becomes indispensable than trying to go head-to-head

>>523627914
You are not ok

>>523628462
same shit
what do you think it offers you? you will have to rewrite everything anyway, so why even bother.

>>523628604
everything depends on people's interest
you can start small and grow properly with solid foundation.
I think it's the only way.

Reminder that boredom tea will be at 18:15CEST (in ~2h15), more info there >>523553109

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>>523609343
the entire display stack is the same
DP2.1 controllers would require a revamp of the stack and thus more changes across the board for the hmd overall

>>523609901
lil bro doesn't understand uOLED

>>523613342
>in general you shouldn't care about the [very poor] tag
i hate modern vrc users

>>523618598
>>DSC becoming a thing of the past
it'll take a few more generations of Nvidia cards with DP 2.1+ to make that happen
you can thank Jensen for the delay

>>523613342
>this entire post
We're heading for an absolute technological hell, aren't we?

>>523618902
the standards seem to get lower every day...

>>523619613
says the anon who literally licks nvidia's balls on the daily apparently and defended their use of DP 1.4

>>523606518
>Proper panels didn't exist. I know what I'm talking about.
why do you live in an alternate timeline?
do you simply just not know what is out there?
do you live under a rock?

>>523636098
Everyone walks on their own timeline alone

>>523636219
On a related note, I never knew there was a vr game for this released back in 2017. I should remake it in vrc or something

>>523590521
he's a little autistic about certain things but he's a good friend. i think you might be a bit too harsh.

>>523635556
No, before this we had the retards just drag and drop shit in Unity with zero optimization.
Atleast now there is a button they can press to not be giga horrible.
Still vrg fell off when coomers who don't use blender became majority.